Geoff Johns Appreciation thread [Archive] - Comic Book Resources Forums

SUPERECWFAN1

07-31-2005, 01:47 AM

Ok this has a little history. On another thread I said I'd like to see Johns revive Starman as a series. To bring Jack Knight back In a way and work on his rogues gallery. ( This of course didn't go over to well)

So name a book,TV Series or movie you'd like to see Johns do. I'm a huge fan I admit that. He's made me a fan of Flash and Teen Titans. I'm starting to get JSA....so thats should tell ya this thread Is real.

As a fan what DC or Marvel series would you like Johns to do ?

Babylon23

07-31-2005, 02:09 AM

I'm a huge Geoff Johns fan, and am loving everything he writes at the moment. To be honest, I'm happy for him to stay with what he's writing at the moment, although its sad to see him leaving Flash.

If I were to pick a title, i'd like to see him and Heinberg continue on JLA. I hope he steers well clear of any Marvel books.

Also, if a Starman book were called for, only James Robinson should write it.

Bored at 3:00AM

07-31-2005, 06:41 AM

I really, really dig Geoff Johns' writing. He's not to everyone's tastes, but his stuff strikes a cord with me. He understands what makes these characters work and lets them strut their stuff, yet isn't affraid to take chances with them either.

As to Johns bringing back Jack Knight? That would be the silliest thing DC could ever do and a slap in the face to the work of James Robinson, who Johns is a friend of and wouldn't do that to begin with.

Johns on a new Starman, featuring Stargirl & S.T.R.I.P.E.? Sure. I think that'd be a pretty good fit.

Patriot07

07-31-2005, 09:38 AM

Smarty Jones

07-31-2005, 09:46 AM

SUPERECWFAN1

07-31-2005, 09:59 AM

I personally would like to see Geoff Johns go back to "Hawkman," where he really developed Carter Hall and brought a lot of texture to his relationship with Kendra Saunders.

If not, I would like to see a team-up book of Mr. Terrific and Dr. Mid-Nite, featuring the Rex Tyler Hourman making an occasional appearance.

I don't know about that ..I'm liking the current Hawkman arc. I'd like him to take over Firestorm though. Johns on Firestorm could get that title a lotta attention.

The Shadow

07-31-2005, 10:05 AM

Since Geoff has so much respect for history I'd like to see him tackle an Alan Scott book outside the JSA

And an Invaders book for Marvel

SUPERECWFAN1

07-31-2005, 10:09 AM

Since Geoff has so much respect for history I'd like to see him tackle an Alan Scott book outside the JSA

And an Invaders book for Marvel

Ohhhh yeah an Alan Scott series. I'd love to see him do Alan's origin and do a series about him. Place It In the 1940's maybe.

Someone on the other thread mentioned " Sandman" as well. I believe It was as a joke but I was thinking, why not have him work on the 1940's Sandman ? I'd love a series like that.

Smarty Jones

07-31-2005, 10:15 AM

"I don't know about that ..I'm liking the current Hawkman arc. I'd like him to take over Firestorm though. Johns on Firestorm could get that title a lotta attention."

I found Geoff Johns' version on Hawkman to have much more depth than the post-Johns version. In the initial series, Johns showed Carter Hall interacting more with events in his previous lives and struggling with his association with Kendra Saunders. The current Hawkman seems to be little more than mindless muscle.

SUPERECWFAN1

07-31-2005, 10:17 AM

I found Geoff Johns' version on Hawkman to have much more depth than the post-Johns version. In the initial series, Johns showed Carter Hall interacting more with events in his previous lives and struggling with his association with Kendra Saunders. The current Hawkman seems to be little more than mindless muscle.

Well.....he's sorta mindless dead muscle now. They just buried him again. ;)

Bored at 3:00AM

07-31-2005, 12:23 PM

I am also really digging the current goings-ons in Hawkman right now, so I wouldn't want Johns back quite yet.

As to an Alan Scott series, I'd certainly buy it. I actually think "The Green Lantern & Jade" series would be very cool to see. Has anyone tried to do a Father/Daughter Superhero book since Johns' Stars & S.T.R.I.P.E.? Although generally misused, I think Jade, alongside Alan, have a lot of untapped potential.

Hopefully, we'll get a few Times Past tales in Green Lantern every once in awhile (god knows they could use them to keep the book monthly thanks to Pacheco & Van Scriver's deadline issues). And I hope they revive the wonderful Alan/Hal team-up tradition that has been languishing for years. The Magic vs. Science part of those team-ups were always fun.

Hellfan

07-31-2005, 12:40 PM

I need to read Geoff Johns Flash - Is all his work in TPB form - Where do I start?

Bored at 3:00AM

07-31-2005, 12:45 PM

I need to read Geoff Johns Flash - Is all his work in TPB form - Where do I start?

Johns' Flash stuff has been collected very nicely into TPB form. I can't
remember what the first one was, but they've all been great. "Blitz" was my favorite, but I haven't read "Rogues yet.

I think either the www.DCComics.com website or your comics dealer should be able to tell which one comes first.

He also did Flash: Iron Heights with Van Scriver.

SUPERECWFAN1

07-31-2005, 12:56 PM

Johns' Flash stuff has been collected very nicely into TPB form. I can't
remember what the first one was, but they've all been great. "Blitz" was my favorite, but I haven't read "Rogues yet.

I think either the www.DCComics.com website or your comics dealer should be able to tell which one comes first.

He also did Flash: Iron Heights with Van Scriver.

His 1st TPB was " Blood Will Run " I believe. Thats the 1st I think they collected Into TPB. Eithor way after a slow start..( I admit I dropped the series after 164...but picked It up at 170 to now) Johns really hammered a HR on the Flash.

Bored at 3:00AM

07-31-2005, 01:10 PM

His 1st TPB was " Blood Will Run " I believe. Thats the 1st I think they collected Into TPB. Eithor way after a slow start..( I admit I dropped the series after 164...but picked It up at 170 to now) Johns really hammered a HR on the Flash.

That's right. I think it goes like this:

1) Blood Will Run

2) Rogues

3) Blitz

4) Ignition

Dunno where Iron Heights fits in. Presumably between Rogues & Blitz

The rest hasn't been collected yet...

Psychoweasel

07-31-2005, 01:31 PM

That's right. I think it goes like this:

1) Blood Will Run

2) Rogues

3) Blitz

4) Ignition

Dunno where Iron Heights fits in. Presumably between Rogues & Blitz

The rest hasn't been collected yet...

Yes it has!

I just got 'The Secret of Barry Allen' tpb last week! It's a THICK sucker...worth the price! It collects the issues up to Captain Boomerang's funeral.

Bored at 3:00AM

07-31-2005, 01:50 PM

Yes it has!

I just got 'The Secret of Barry Allen' tpb last week! It's a THICK sucker...worth the price! It collects the issues up to Captain Boomerang's funeral.

Cool! I'll have to pick that up when the opportunity presents itself. Haven't liked the Porter stuff as much as Kolins' gorgeous art, but its still pretty frickin' good.

Josh

07-31-2005, 03:09 PM

That's right. I think it goes like this:

1) Blood Will Run

2) Rogues

3) Blitz

4) IgnitionVery close! Insert "Crossfire" between Rogues and Blitz and then carry on as normal. Also, "The Secret of Barry Allen" (which is where Johns's work on The Flash took a turn for the worse,) is being released in TPB in the next few weeks.

Psychoweasel

07-31-2005, 03:56 PM

Also, "The Secret of Barry Allen" (which is where Johns's work on The Flash took a turn for the worse,) is being released in TPB in the next few weeks.

*dances around*

It'sout!It'sout!It'sout!It'sout!It'sout!It'sout!It 'sout!It'sout!It'sout!

And it's goooooooood...(see above post)

*keeps dancing*

Private America

07-31-2005, 04:11 PM

Another big Geoff Johns fan here. In fact, he doesn't write much that I don't like. Can't wait to read INFINITE CRISIS.

Grimm24

07-31-2005, 07:52 PM

Im a big fan of his work on the Flash, JLA and anything that has to do with Infinite Crisis

eyril

07-31-2005, 08:22 PM

I love every book that Geoff is writing right now!
I'm sad that he is leaving Flash. Him writing that book got me reading DC, and now I read more DC book than Marvel books.

I would love to see Geoff Johns write a Adam Strange book. I think he would do an awesome job with a cool character.

Wormella

08-01-2005, 07:34 AM

Geoff Johns got me into back into reading comics, and I cherish every issue of Stars and STRIPE

I really do love his writing, just wish I had more money to dedicate to buying more of his comics.

Windbreaker

08-01-2005, 08:25 AM

Johns has me pumped about TEEN TITANS, a cast that I knew next to nothing about. His balance of team dynamic and individual character growth is superb. So, since I already have a huge appreciation for the JLA, I'd love to see him tackle it long-term.

I like the Alan Scott idea, too. A couple years ago, that name meant nothing to me, but GJ pulled me into the Green Lantern world starting with Rebirth.

Patriot07

08-01-2005, 11:22 AM

Wow. I thought I was the only Geoff Johns fan here. It seems like everywhere I turn, there's someone dissing Geoff and his talents.

sixstringguild

08-01-2005, 11:37 AM

Geoff Johns is the man and my number one favorite writer. He has a great touch w/ his Silver Age sensibilities coupled w/ his knack for making the story contemporary and dynamic. I'd like to see him tackle Superman and Batman in the team-up book.

Shellhead

08-01-2005, 11:50 AM

Geoff Johns is one of my favorite writers in comics, but if you mention his name in the same sentence with "spelunking" it does tend to provoke flinching in serious Avengers fans like me.

kash

08-01-2005, 12:02 PM

i wanna see geoff take over Nightwing, he could bring Dick back to his old glory

Sweet Baby Blue

08-01-2005, 12:22 PM

My dream would be to have Johns write a Dazzler book. I don't think I'd even get to read it because I'd have a heart attack as soon as it was announced.

Private America

08-01-2005, 12:33 PM

Wow. I thought I was the only Geoff Johns fan here. It seems like everywhere I turn, there's someone dissing Geoff and his talents.

I think you'll find that GJ's critics are often louder, but smaller in number. I think the vast, vast majority of comic readers like GJ's work.

Windbreaker

08-01-2005, 01:40 PM

i wanna see geoff take over Nightwing, he could bring Dick back to his old glory
We wouldn't have to hold our breath each month, wondering if our new issue of NIGHTWING was going to do major disservice to the title character.

Grimm24

08-01-2005, 06:27 PM

The only complaint I have right now against Johns is how he is finishing off his run on The Flash, I mean its cool that Zoom and Reverse-Flash are teaming up on Wally, but I will be so angry if Barry ends up getting ressurected at the end of this arc because there has been way to much ressurecting this year in comics with the return of Hal Jordon in Green Lantern and now villans are returning, its just kind of odd

Captain Jim

08-01-2005, 09:27 PM

Johns runs hot and cold for me. His stuff is always at least okay and sometimes it's terrific. I've yet to see the big attraction to his Flash work, but I'm really loving the way he does Teen Titans.

Suzanne

08-01-2005, 11:52 PM

I personally would like to see Geoff Johns go back to "Hawkman," where he really developed Carter Hall and brought a lot of texture to his relationship with Kendra Saunders.
It was under Geoff's run that I got into Hawkman, and his work on JSA always makes for fun reading. That he's so knowledgable about these characters and writes them with respect are bonuses. Though I'd like to see him to a guest stint on HM, I'm enjoying what Jimmy & Justin are doing.

Grimm24

08-01-2005, 11:56 PM

Overall I think its safe to say that Johns is doing for DC what Bendis is doing for Marvel

David O Burcham

08-02-2005, 12:00 AM

SUPERECWFAN1

08-02-2005, 12:03 AM

Not only is Goeff Johns an excellent writer, he is part of the greatest three man tag team since the Fabulous Freebirds (nod to ECW Fan :D ). Johns, Greg Ruka, and Judd Wynnick with Countdown marched in and took every bit of "heel heat" off of the writer of Indentity Crisis (Brad who? :p ). Just like the Fabulous Freebirds, the DC writer trio is loved by some and hated by others.

Winick doesn't even deserve to be on that list. He's had 1 good book with Batman and 2 horrible books that he's dragged down from other creators. No...Winick doesn't deserve to be a Freebird. If he Is he's Buddy Rose of this Freebird team. Melzter,Rucka and Johns maybe as a 3 man team. Winick by luck Is there.

Private America

08-02-2005, 08:01 AM

Overall I think its safe to say that Johns is doing for DC what Bendis is doing for Marvel

Well, I don't like what Bendis is doing for Marvel, so I'll have to disagree. :)

Shellhead

08-02-2005, 08:39 AM

Winick doesn't even deserve to be on that list. He's had 1 good book with Batman and 2 horrible books that he's dragged down from other creators. No...Winick doesn't deserve to be a Freebird. If he Is he's Buddy Rose of this Freebird team. Melzter,Rucka and Johns maybe as a 3 man team. Winick by luck Is there.

Meltzer and Johns on a team together? Nope, not gonna happen. Meltzer hates superheroes, he wants to humiliate them at every turn. Johns loves superheroes, he wants to reconcile all continuity problems while updating the characters for today's readers.

dazzler_slave

08-02-2005, 02:35 PM

Goeff Johns is the best writer DC has. He is incredible. He manages to respect history, thus keeping long term, continuity obsessed fans (like myself) happy; but he tells the story in a way that new readers don't feel lost or overwhelmed. He is unafraid to make characters current and modern, but somehow still gives them a classic feel. I have never seen a writer do this so well. The only one I can think of that comes close is Kurt Busiek.

That being said, I was not impressed with his Marvel work so far, but he has a handle on DC like no other. I may not like everything he does (did not agree Hal should come back and don't like what is being done with Power Girl. I liked her Atlantean origin), but I cannot deny that even the things I don't care for are done with style and intelligence. The man actually made Hawkman work! Who knew it could be done? Again, even tho I didn't want Hal Jordan to return, I have to say that the way Johns did it was very clever and made sense. I would love to see him do a new Hawk & Dove series. I would also like to see him stay on the JLA. I would like to see him take over the Outsiders and would love to see him bring back Ronnie Raymond and do Firestorm right.

Grimm24

08-02-2005, 02:47 PM

Well, I don't like what Bendis is doing for Marvel, so I'll have to disagree. :)

Hey at least he isnt ruining the marvel universe like JMS is with his horrible run on Fantastic Four and Amazing Spider-man

We R. Venom

08-02-2005, 02:49 PM

Hey at least he isnt ruining the marvel universe like JMS is with his horrible run on Fantastic Four and Amazing Spider-man

No that WOULD be Bendis. And his runs on spidey and FF are top notch.

We R. Venom

08-02-2005, 02:50 PM

Hey at least he isnt ruining the marvel universe like JMS is with his horrible run on Fantastic Four and Amazing Spider-man

His runs on spidey and FF are top notch.

Grimm24

08-02-2005, 07:08 PM

His runs on spidey and FF are top notch.

I dont know if you have been reading his current run on the FF, but lets just say that I hate him for it.

His run on Amazing Spiderman is just plain, boring. I mean some of the concepts are good and all but no where up to the level where they should be

Other than that I would like to see a Geoff Johns run on Batman

Grimm24

08-02-2005, 07:27 PM

Babylon23

08-02-2005, 09:09 PM

Other than that I would like to see a Geoff Johns run on Batman

Careful. The Johns-haters will be all over you for that suggestion. John's depiction of Batman seems to be the one that gets the most abuse.

As I stated earlier, I love Johns work. I also give him, Winnick and Rucka credit for Countdown. They killed off Blue Beetle, who is one of my favourite characters, but did it in a story that respected the character, his history and his intelligence. Even though Beetle died, I was happy to see him get some respect.

I also loved his run on Avengers. It's certainly better than Avengers Dissassembled/New Avengers.

Captain Jim

08-02-2005, 09:31 PM

Meltzer hates superheroes, he wants to humiliate them at every turn.

That's unfair and in poor taste, even if it is sarcasm.

David O Burcham

08-02-2005, 10:12 PM

No...Winick doesn't deserve to be a Freebird. If he Is he's Buddy Rose of this Freebird team.

Buddy Roberts. Buddy Rose was the "Blow Away Diet" guy in the WWF. :D

Okay, how about this:

Johns, Ruka, and Loeb are The Freebirds...

Meltzer is Jimmy Garvin...

and Winick is Badstreet/Fantasia...

SUPERECWFAN1

08-03-2005, 08:30 PM

Buddy Roberts. Buddy Rose was the "Blow Away Diet" guy in the WWF. :D

Okay, how about this:

Johns, Ruka, and Loeb are The Freebirds...

Meltzer is Jimmy Garvin...

and Winick is Badstreet/Fantasia...

I always get Roberts and Rose mixed up. Yeah add 200 pounds to Winick and he's Buddr Rose. Of course Winick could be Brad Armstrong ( who was Badstreet under the mask).

Meltzer seemed to love superheroes. I mean that whole IC was more of a Green Arrow story and most was told thru his eyes. If anything Meltzer deserves to be a Freebird for starting this ball rolling.

David O Burcham

08-03-2005, 10:47 PM

I always get Roberts and Rose mixed up. Yeah add 200 pounds to Winick and he's Buddr Rose. Of course Winick could be Brad Armstrong ( who was Badstreet under the mask).

Meltzer seemed to love superheroes. I mean that whole IC was more of a Green Arrow story and most was told thru his eyes. If anything Meltzer deserves to be a Freebird for starting this ball rolling.

Jimmy Garvin was the honorary "fourth" Freebird in World Class and became and official Freebird in WCW. Since meltzer came into comics after Johns, Loeb, and Winick that makes him Gorgeous Jimmy.

But...

...would Gail Simone be Precious or Sunshine?

(Everything I need to know I learned from Pro Wrestling. :p )

David O Burcham

08-03-2005, 10:50 PM

Geoff Johns is the greates because he doesn't kick dogs or children.

Grimm24

08-03-2005, 11:51 PM

Geoff Johns is the greates because he doesn't kick dogs or children.

Apparently not

hitokiri_

08-04-2005, 01:35 AM

Geoff Johns is the greates because he doesn't kick dogs or children.

bwahahahahaha!!!

made me laugh. you got me.

SUPERECWFAN1

08-04-2005, 03:42 AM

Jimmy Garvin was the honorary "fourth" Freebird in World Class and became and official Freebird in WCW. Since meltzer came into comics after Johns, Loeb, and Winick that makes him Gorgeous Jimmy.

But...

...would Gail Simone be Precious or Sunshine?

(Everything I need to know I learned from Pro Wrestling. :p )

Hmm we could ask her. I can see Melzter asking her : " Spray the air Precious and get that stinkin Indian outta here !" *

* Refers to Wahoo McDaniel.

HumanTorch09

08-04-2005, 06:11 PM

Johns did a 4 issue story on the Morlocks. That was a pretty cool little story, and it's probably going to cost you 6 dollars or less for all the issues.

Androo

08-04-2005, 07:32 PM

I too have to throw my hat in as a Marvel-lifer that has been brought to DC on the Geoff Johns express. I picked up the Flash run and fell in love. I think Zoom sealed the deal. He is simply the coolest new character I've seen in a long time. The motives, character design, and especially his "vvvoice" are fantastic. A really spooky villian and a definite "oh-sh*t" inducer everytime he shows up.

I'm now picking up JSA and Starman trades and despite my general dislike for teen books, am seriously considering Teen Titans.

My dream Johns project would be for him to head over to Spiderman and work his magic on Spidey's rogues. There are some great characters there and I am sure he could make people care about them. Heck, I loved the Turtle!

---
Androo

P.S. As a new DC reader, I'm trying to hold off jumping into the middle of the Countdown to Infinite Crisis minis until I can get the trades. I've picked up the Prelude tpb; has a collected Identity Crisis been released yet?

Loren

08-04-2005, 08:42 PM

Johns on a new Starman, featuring Stargirl & S.T.R.I.P.E.? Sure. I think that'd be a pretty good fit.

If not, I would like to see a team-up book of Mr. Terrific and Dr. Mid-Nite, featuring the Rex Tyler Hourman making an occasional appearance.

Ohhhh yeah an Alan Scott series. I'd love to see him do Alan's origin and do a series about him. Place It In the 1940's maybe.

This is why I think JSA Classified is an inspired title. While these are all neat ideas, I don't think any of them would stand a chance of surviving in the market. But an ongoing title that can rotate through various JSA cast members, that allows characters who couldn't support their own series, or merit the production of a stand-alone mini, to get some camera time anyway. And while I think solo series would quickly fail, I think the Classified book stands a good chance at a long run.

Sure, Johns isn't the ongoing writer, but if he suddenly has a great Mr. Terrific/Dr. Mid-Nite team-up idea, there's a ready-made forum to take it.

Winghead

05-22-2009, 01:37 PM

Well, my last one didn't work very well, so lets appreciate this dude, who's by right going to blow us out of the water this year and make up for Morrison's piss poor excuse for an event.

the Hornet

05-22-2009, 01:42 PM

to me , he is the Kurt Busiek of DC, and as far as I am concerned that is a very big compliment.

Karl O'Neill

05-22-2009, 01:43 PM

I love geoff Johns writing.

he must be my favourite writer in comic book history. He gets the characters he writes.

Also, This has to be the millioneth Johns appreciated thread I have seen on message boards.

His best work that I love is:

Hawkman
The Flash
Green lantern
Infinite crisis
stargirl
JSA
JLA arc
Day of Judgement
Rogues revenge
Sinestro corps war

He made captain cold and stargirl great dc characters, he built them up from nothing.

Winghead

05-22-2009, 01:47 PM

Karl O'Neill

05-22-2009, 01:57 PM

Johns can write very detailed, literary scripts too, Read Hawkman or his flash run to find out. This guy was bord to write comic books it is that simple. I love Kurt busiek's writing as well but sometimes find his dialogue to be very oldschool.

the Hornet

05-22-2009, 02:04 PM

I think Kurt Busiek is the Kurt Busiek of DC, since he is DC exclusive and had done all kinds of awesome stuff for DC, and has also been appreciated many times on these boards. I don't find that Geoff and Kurt write similarly though. Kurt tends to be a bit more literary in scope and Geoff is usually more straight forward.

heh, I knew I should have elaborated. Kurt is one of those writers with a vast knowledge of marvel continuity and when he writes the characters he likes in Marvel, his stories have always been amazing. I see the same quality in Geoff when he writes DC stuff, he loves them and knows the history. Although Kurt does not write for Marvel anymore, I always felt that he does his best work in Marvel. Same with Geoff, I felt he writes better at DC than at Marvel.

Karl O'Neill

05-22-2009, 02:10 PM

In fairness, Kurt's DC work is far better than his marvel work, + The sheer volume of it too.

Michael P

05-22-2009, 02:23 PM

Mark Waid is the Kurt Busiek of DC.

Raker616

05-22-2009, 09:54 PM

Geoff is the reason I came back to comics thanks to GL Rebirth and now after 5 years i'm as big a comic book fan as I was in the early '90's. He gets why Hal and the GLC mythos are so great and now bringing Barry back he's pretty much responsible for bringing my 2 favorite heroes back to glory. The guy is without the best comic book writer in the business and his run as GL is an all-time great. He respect the characters that he writes and shows a knowledge and grasp on the characters core that other writers haven't and i'm thankfull that he's going to be with DC and GL for several more years.

Hullababy

05-23-2009, 12:50 AM

paulski

05-24-2009, 09:38 PM

I love geoff Johns writing.

he must be my favourite writer in comic book history. He gets the characters he writes.

I'm with you, GG. I can't think of any other writer whose work I've constantly been impressed by. His strike rate is just way ahead of anyone else IMO.

Ilash

05-25-2009, 04:53 AM

I'm actually somewhat ambivalent on the subject of Geoff Johns. While I generally like his work - sometimes a hell of a lot - he does have certain tendencies in his writing that annoy the hell out of me. One of the reviewers at AICN said that his writing reads like that of an obsessive compulsive and I'm inclined to agree. While people like Mark Waid and Kurt Busiek make good use of continuity, they seem a hell of a lot beholden to it than Geoff Johns does. His stories at times feel more like coninuity-driven wankery than stories for their own sake.

Further more, in recent years, his stories have taken on grimmer and darker edges than they used to. Flash Rebirth feels very weird tonally and I hate what he did to the Teen Titans. Also, his charcterisation isn't as strong as it was when he was writing the Rogues in the Flash or his earlier JSA arcs. Take his Green Lantern, for example, it's a great big story that I have very much been enjoying and yet I still don't have much of a sense of Hal Jordan as a character. Lastly, while this might be a problem simply because he sticks purely to superheroes, there is very little depth to his stories and, again in recent years, emotionally they feel rather balnd.

With all that said, there is absolutely plenty to like as well. I can't think of any other superhero writer who is better at pure plotting than Geoff Johns is. His epic take on Green Lantern is a perfect example of this. He also knows how to craft BIG, exciting stories that perfectly showcase comics as a visual art form. And weirdly, for all of my complaints above, when he does bother with actual characterisation, he is pretty good at it.

Doc Goblin

05-25-2009, 05:18 AM

Geoff Johns is easily the best superhero writer of the time. He has this ability to really get to the core of characters, even ones he only briefly uses. He can actually introduce me to a character I have never read or cared about and leave me really interested in that character by the end of the issue. And he can do that consistently. That's very impressive.

I'm not saying he's some perfect, 100% hit writer. Because he's not.

He makes Green Lantern way too Hal-centric. I think he's definitely justified bringing Hal Jordan back. The stories he's telling need Hal. They need a character who bridges the time of Abin Sur's death to today. That's Hal. But the stories center on him way too much. You can't tell me the writer of Justice Society of Amerca can't handle focusing on more than one character. John Stewart is being purposely neglected.

He disregards continuity a lot, but really... I find that to be a good thing most of the time. Making Superboy into a Clark Kent/Lex Luthor clone was a better idea. It was a more iconic concept. I find that's what Johns usually does when he disregards certain bits of continuity. It was lame continuity anyway. Sometimes that's not the case, but usually I'm all for it.

adeathinthefamily

05-25-2009, 07:09 AM

Amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing writer.

But he should stick to Green Lantern. Forever. <3

Raker616

05-25-2009, 10:28 PM

He makes Green Lantern way too Hal-centric. I think he's definitely justified bringing Hal Jordan back. The stories he's telling need Hal. They need a character who bridges the time of Abin Sur's death to today. That's Hal. But the stories center on him way too much. You can't tell me the writer of Justice Society of Amerca can't handle focusing on more than one character. John Stewart is being purposely neglected.

You do know that GL is a solo title that stars Hal Jordan right? because that's like complaining that Batman focuses too much on Bruce Wayne which makes no sense.

Doc Goblin

05-26-2009, 12:08 AM

You do know that GL is a solo title that stars Hal Jordan right? because that's like complaining that Batman focuses too much on Bruce Wayne which makes no sense.

You're right that complaining that Batman focuses too much on Bruce Wayne makes no senses, but wrong saying that's like what I'm saying about Green Lantern. We have four human heroes called Green Lantern, and they're split between two books. Kyle and Guy are featured in Green Lantern Corps while Green Lantern features Hal and occasionally John. There's only one Batman. ...Well, now that Battle for the Cowl is over. But there isn't only one Green Lantern. And I really don't believe there's any good reason that Green Lantern has to be a title focusing only on Hal. I'm not saying Hal and John should necessarily be getting equal time right now, but come on. John has seriously appeared in less than half of the issues so far. That's ridiculous. This is a writer who we all know can juggle huge casts, but he barely used Hal's partner. He could and should be doing a better job in this regard.

Hullababy

05-26-2009, 02:58 AM

You're right that complaining that Batman focuses too much on Bruce Wayne makes no senses, but wrong saying that's like what I'm saying about Green Lantern. We have four human heroes called Green Lantern, and they're split between two books. Kyle and Guy are featured in Green Lantern Corps while Green Lantern features Hal and occasionally John. There's only one Batman. ...Well, now that Battle for the Cowl is over. But there isn't only one Green Lantern. And I really don't believe there's any good reason that Green Lantern has to be a title focusing only on Hal. I'm not saying Hal and John should necessarily be getting equal time right now, but come on. John has seriously appeared in less than half of the issues so far. That's ridiculous. This is a writer who we all know can juggle huge casts, but he barely used Hal's partner. He could and should be doing a better job in this regard.

But GL book IS supposed to focus on Hal solely.Its not titled "Green Lanterns".

Doc Goblin

05-26-2009, 03:38 AM

But GL book IS supposed to focus on Hal solely.Its not titled "Green Lanterns".

I know it does focus on Hal. But again, I see no good reason that is has to or why it should. Johns took on two of the four human Green Lanterns, and he neglects one of them. That's the real point here. He took BOTH Hal and John into the book. He should be using both.

I'll be annoyed about the same thing if it happens in Flash too. Depending on how that Rebirth ends. If Johns writes the ongoing and Wally gets shafted like John, that'll suck too.

Karl O'Neill

05-26-2009, 03:44 AM

GL John stewart is getting some spotlight this week :)

Name Already Taken

05-26-2009, 03:54 AM

I buy his books every month (along with many others). That is probably all he wants and asks for as far as appreciation goes, other than people complimenting him on message boards :smile:

Pól Rua

05-26-2009, 03:57 AM

I thought 'Stars and STRIPE' was nifty.

Paiute 1

05-26-2009, 04:35 PM

He can be a bit Dark at times but than he will bring a tear to your eye. Overall I think he's better than so called genius's like Morrison, Ellis and Bendis.
Most of the time he ties up his stories nice and neat.

I put him up there with Waid, Busieck and Englehart as far a chracterization.

Ilash

05-26-2009, 05:00 PM

He can be a bit Dark at times but than than he will bring a tear to eye. Overall I think he's better than so called genius's like Morrison, Ellis and Bendis.
Most of the time he ties up his stories nice and neat.

Yeah except that at at their best I would say that all three leave Geoff Johns in their dust. Johns has never done anything on the level of Powers, Transmetroplitan or JLA: Rock of Ages.

Phantom Druid

05-26-2009, 09:23 PM

Yeah except that at at their best I would say that all three leave Geoff Johns in their dust. Johns has never done anything on the level of Powers, Transmetroplitan or JLA: Rock of Ages.

Hmm. I liked Warren Ellis's Druid and Hellstorm, but other than that I'd take Johns over all three of them just about any day.

Raker616

05-27-2009, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by Doc Goblin
You're right that complaining that Batman focuses too much on Bruce Wayne makes no senses, but wrong saying that's like what I'm saying about Green Lantern. We have four human heroes called Green Lantern, and they're split between two books. Kyle and Guy are featured in Green Lantern Corps while Green Lantern features Hal and occasionally John. There's only one Batman. ...Well, now that Battle for the Cowl is over. But there isn't only one Green Lantern. And I really don't believe there's any good reason that Green Lantern has to be a title focusing only on Hal. I'm not saying Hal and John should necessarily be getting equal time right now, but come on. John has seriously appeared in less than half of the issues so far. That's ridiculous. This is a writer who we all know can juggle huge casts, but he barely used Hal's partner. He could and should be doing a better job in this regard.

What's ridiculous is that you don't understand that Hal is The Green Lantern he gets the top spot in the pecking order that's how it's been since the Silver Age and that is how it is in Volume 4. Johns will give others time to shine during his big/epic stories but GL first and foremost has and will be about Hal until Geoff leaves and probably after it's that simple.

Hullababy

05-27-2009, 03:12 AM

I know it does focus on Hal. But again, I see no good reason that is has to or why it should. Johns took on two of the four human Green Lanterns, and he neglects one of them. That's the real point here. He took BOTH Hal and John into the book. He should be using both.

I'll be annoyed about the same thing if it happens in Flash too. Depending on how that Rebirth ends. If Johns writes the ongoing and Wally gets shafted like John, that'll suck too.

Wally gets shafted like John ? The only time John starred as the main GL was for a very brief period in the bronze age.Other than that John has always been "shafted".

Paiute 1

05-27-2009, 12:07 PM

Hmm. I liked Warren Ellis's Druid and Hellstorm, but other than that I'd take Johns over all three of them just about any day.

Thank you, the man was born to write and he can keep a deadline.

Phantom Druid

05-27-2009, 06:27 PM

Thank you, the man was born to write and he can keep a deadline.

Heck yeah. Not just good, but efficient too :cool:

the4thpip

05-28-2009, 02:17 AM

I thought 'Stars and STRIPE' was nifty.

Agreed. And I enjoyed his original run on The Flash and his JSA stuff.

fin5

08-14-2009, 07:21 PM

He is the Best Writter at DC right now
I love his Green Lantern books and Blackest Night:biggrin:

DonC

08-14-2009, 08:41 PM

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=270565&highlight=geoff+johns+appreciation

Munkiman

08-14-2009, 08:41 PM

Infinite Crisis (as strange as this might sound) helped get me into the DCU. Johns is an awesome writer.

Jarath

08-15-2009, 09:18 AM

Yes it has!

I just got 'The Secret of Barry Allen' tpb last week! It's a THICK sucker...worth the price! It collects the issues up to Captain Boomerang's funeral.

Also forgot Wonderland which goes at the beginning.

P.S. Not had time to read all 6 pages so sorry if this has been mentioned.

MEGA TON

08-16-2009, 02:14 PM

I love what Geoff is doing with GL and BN, I hope that he sticks with GL until he is good and ready to do something else, if anything I would love to see try a Batman story arc I see a lot of potential there especially Dick in the cowl now.

Mister Blisterfists

08-16-2009, 02:35 PM

I love Geoff for what he does right, but I hate him for the things he gets wrong.

let's just hope that when Geoff leaves GL, someone comes in and gives the book back to its rightful owner, Kyle.

Hullababy

08-16-2009, 02:59 PM

GL: Rebirth brought me back to DC comics. I hope Geoff keeps writing Hal for years to come.

Jarath

08-16-2009, 04:12 PM

I love Geoff for what he does right, but I hate him for the things he gets wrong.

let's just hope that when Geoff leaves GL, someone comes in and gives the book back to its rightful owner, Kyle.

Give it up :tongue: Kyle has still had the Ion series. He is still at the forefront in GLC. He most certainly hasn't gone into limbo. The whole point of Green Lantern is that there are thousands of them. There is more than enough room for Kyle and Hal at the same time. Personally I like Guy best but you don't see me ranting about the fact that Hal and Kyle get to be in the spotlight too.

As for my feels about Geoff Johns he has really got me back into comics after Marvel's Civil War nearly made me quit comics all together. Well him Simone and Morrison.