Upfronts: Networks Announce Fall Schedules

[Anna]

Fox is the first broadcast network to announce its fall schedule and plans for midseason: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i07c80a70350aca727ac10c50137d26e1

So You Think You Can Dance will start it's 5th season this week, and it's sixth in September.

Telemundo has just revealed its fall lineup, and its plans to launch a cable network: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i381632271e5e8b963f2004a776bf3831


ABC's announcement: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3ie1ce596d1213e2c286b745e3af5d7698

And Here's NBC: http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-fall-schedule-nbc-sked/

CBS Has revealed its fall lineup: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i7ee3d207fbb1fda3b5d2ba43b8c699b5

So far the last few days have seen "bubble shows" Better Off Ted, Castle, Chuck, Cold Case, Numb3ers, Scrubs and Rules Of Engagement renewed; while According To Jim, My Name Is Earl, Samantha Who?, Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles, The Unit, Without A Trace and The Unusuals are history. Unit is headed to syndication, Medium is going to CBS, and Earl is being shopped to ABC and Fox.

For a list of anything I missed, try here: http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/fall-tv-cheat-s.html?iid=top25-Fall+TV+cheat+sheet%3A+What%27s+in%3F+What%27s+out %3F

For cable fans, we have TNT who will start airing new shows in June: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i7ee3d207fbb1fda33e5ecd4c48b565f2

[jade_nova]

Nice to see Better Off Ted renewed.

[Anna]

Nice to see Better Off Ted renewed.

Yes, and once I hear that Mentalist is indeed safe, I'll be a happy camper.

[Typo Lad]

Scrubs was renewed? Really?

Sad about The Unusuals. It was just getting good.

[Anna]

Scrubs was renewed? Really?

Sad about The Unusuals. It was just getting good.

With Zach Braff back for six episodes. Cupid is canceled, as well as According to Jim.

[Typo Lad]

I didn't know Cupid had aired, honestly.

[JDogindy]

Cupid is canceled, as well as According to Jim.

YES! FINALLY!!!!!!!!

[Sean Walsh]

CBS has cancelled The Unit.

NBC has cancelled Medium and My Name is Earl, although both shows' producers are looking to move them to a new network (CBS and FOX/ABC respectively) for midseason.

[Anna]

I didn't know Cupid had aired, honestly.

You didn't miss much. My Name Is Earl, Medium and The Unit are canceled; but the first two may be rescued by other networks.

[Nate Grey]

Where's King of the Hill? I thought NEXT season was gonna be its last. So its really THIS season? Has the finale aired yet? :confused:

I think Medium would do well on CBS, before or after Ghost Whisperer. I don't know why anyone would willingly send their failing show to Fox, so I hope it goes to CBS.

I didn't realize Cupid had aired either. Wasn't it EXACTLY the same as the Jeremy Piven version?

Ugly Betty and Law & Order Original Recipe on Fridays? :confused: Why?

[Mac Danny]

With Zach Braff back for six episodes. Cupid is canceled, as well as According to Jim.

YES! FINALLY!!!!!!!!

Do you think someone at the network just realized it was still on the air?

NETWORK EXEC: According to Jim was canceled 3 seasons ago but no one told them. There was a glitch in the system that allowed them to keep getting paid so we went ahead and fixed the glitch.

PROGRAMMER: So you told them they were cancelled?

NETWORK EXEC: No, we Fixed the glitch..

[Nate Grey]

Do you think someone at the network just realized it was still on the air?

NETWORK EXEC: According to Jim was canceled 3 seasons ago but no one told them. There was a glitch in the system that allowed them to keep getting paid so we went ahead and fixed the glitch.

PROGRAMMER: So you told them they were cancelled?

NETWORK EXEC: No, we Fixed the glitch..

I figured it had a deal similar to Drew Carrey's, that kept it on the air despite ratings.

[fireSTRIKE!]

well that just sucks... Supernatural, Fringe and Flash Forward looks like they're all going to be on at the same time on the same day... grrrrrr... :mad:

[Anna]

Where's King of the Hill? I thought NEXT season was gonna be its last. So its really THIS season? Has the finale aired yet? :confused:

I think Medium would do well on CBS, before or after Ghost Whisperer. I don't know why anyone would willingly send their failing show to Fox, so I hope it goes to CBS.

I didn't realize Cupid had aired either. Wasn't it EXACTLY the same as the Jeremy Piven version?

Ugly Betty and Law & Order Original Recipe on Fridays? :confused: Why?
Seeing that Without A Trace and Unit had better ratings than Medium; I DON'T want CBS to pick it up. I can't see dropping a good show to pick up another network's sloppy seconds. (Although CBS hasn't officially announced their schedule; the latest word has Num3ers safe and Without A Trace canceled.)

As for Betty and L&O; I see them as becoming sacrificial lambs...

[adamthered]

well that just sucks... Supernatural, Fringe and Flash Forward looks like they're all going to be on at the same time on the same day... grrrrrr... :mad:

No, Flash Foward will be on an hour before those two, leading off the night. Still, that's a very busy night.

[fireSTRIKE!]

No, Flash Foward will be on an hour before those two, leading off the night. Still, that's a very busy night.

which means Flash Forward and Smallville are at the same time... STILL grrrrr...

busy evening for recording indeed... MORE grrrr....

[The Black Guardian]

Re: King of the Hill

In October, they announced this would be the final season. There was talk of KotH moving to ABC, to pair up with the new toon Goode Family, but in January, they said this wasn't happening.

Last month, Fox said they would add two episodes to their order, in order to give the series a proper send off. Sunday's episode was the final one for this season. We don't have dates on the final two episodes yet.

And there are still four unlicensed episodes that have been produced. We might eventually see them, but I'm not holding my breath.

Re: Mentalist

This show is CBS's golden child this year. I don't think there's any doubt that it's returning.

CBS is really the main network I watch, so I'll know tomorrow what I have to look forward to/stress about next season. Looks like Fringe will be interfering with CSI, but Fringe just might steal me away.

[Sean Walsh]

In addition to The Unit, CBS has cancelled Without a Trace and 11th Hour.

[Jared]

Chuck is safe, phew. Granted, I've missed the second half the season entirely, but it wasn't because of anything wrong with the show. I was just saving it for reruns and/or Hulu.

Didn't Scrubs advertise for its Final Episode just a week or two ago?

Nice to see that Jim Belushi's contract with Satan finally expired.

[LtMarvel]

Scrubs was renewed? Really?

Sad about The Unusuals. It was just getting good.
I watched the pilot of The Unusuals and saw they plagerized the copier as a lie detector bit from Homicide: Life in the Streets.

I didn't feel the need to watch another episode after that.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I figured it had a deal similar to Drew Carrey's, that kept it on the air despite ratings.

Well in Drew Carey's case ABC in 2001 or 2002 gave the show a 2 year renewal. And basically bought 46 episodes. The ratings in 2001 weren't in the shitter til the next season . And soon enough ABC was stuck with a show that had lost its fanbase and had already paid for them.

ABC was in a spot and finally a year after really cancelling the show...they had to run all those episodes off in 2004 that remained.

[Hoss]

Chuck is safe, phew. Granted, I've missed the second half the season entirely, but it wasn't because of anything wrong with the show. I was just saving it for reruns and/or Hulu.


Is this irony?:smile:

[Anna]

Unit is headed for syndication: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3ic8543054a8a9084d4e05790a72e1e68e

For the status of individual shows try this link, as it's the most up to date. I wish everyone good news on their faves: http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/fall-tv-cheat-s.html?iid=top25-Fall+TV+cheat+sheet%3A+What%27s+in%3F+What%27s+out %3F

[Ilash]

I'm really in two minds about Scrubs returning. On the one hand, season 8 was so strong that if they could keep it up to those levels I wouldn't mind some more. On the other hand, it did have a fantastic ending and maybe it should leave the air gracefully with one of its strongest seasons rather than drawing it out needlessly.

Good to see How I Met Your Mother is still around though.

[malephoenix]

I watched the pilot of The Unusuals and saw they plagerized the copier as a lie detector bit from Homicide: Life in the Streets.

I didn't feel the need to watch another episode after that.

See also The Wire and...real life.

[The Black Guardian]

I think they ended Without a Trace on a good note.

[stealthwise]

I'm really in two minds about Scrubs returning. On the one hand, season 8 was so strong that if they could keep it up to those levels I wouldn't mind some more. On the other hand, it did have a fantastic ending and maybe it should leave the air gracefully with one of its strongest seasons rather than drawing it out needlessly.

Good to see How I Met Your Mother is still around though.

Scrubs ended a few weeks ago, in my mind. I'm guessing a ton of other people will feel the same way and that the show's ratings will wither quickly.

How I Met Your Mother getting to continue its story is stellar news.

[hugh45]

Is the Boondocks running any new shows?

[Sighphi]

With Zach Braff back for six episodes. Cupid is canceled, as well as According to Jim.

So that series finale for Scrubs was fake!
I'm mad!

[Nate Grey]

Seeing that Without A Trace and Unit had better ratings than Medium; I DON'T want CBS to pick it up. I can't see dropping a good show to pick up another network's sloppy seconds. (Although CBS hasn't officially announced their schedule; the latest word has Num3ers safe and Without A Trace canceled.)

Regardless, CBS is the lesser of two evils. I doubt it'd last half a season on Fox.

As for Betty and L&O; I see them as becoming sacrificial lambs...

Why?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Original Law & Order will be back next season. Its gonna get a 20th season so NBC and the show can brag its tied Gunsmoke as hour long dramas that have lasted 20 years. Whether it stays a 21 is the question.

[adamthered]

So that series finale for Scrubs was fake!
I'm mad!

To me, Scrubs is done. That season eight finale was a series finale by all rights. I don't plan on watching season 9. Why tarnish it? (besides the obvious answer of money, of course.)

[xnef1025]

I kinda get that for Betty. Friday night death slot is not a good place to be. L&O though, not so much a problem. The show will have a following no matter where it goes and continue's to generate money for NBC through the almost immediate reuns on TNT/USA/whatever other channel they get shopped out to.

[Typo Lad]

Just give Scrubs 2.0 a new title in your head and move on. If they have the same decent-excellent writing, I'll be there.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Just give Scrubs 2.0 a new title in your head and move on. If they have the same decent-excellent writing, I'll be there.

Yep... my solution a few months back with friends was that in the final episode that Braff was in... he should be walking down the hall to say good-bye. In walks these young 1st year residents and theres a kid called BJ who Braff stops and tells him how he'll love this place.

The kid have one of JD's funny flashes and snaps out when Cox rips him for it.

[Typo Lad]

That is quite possible the worst idea possible.

Impressive.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

That is quite possible the worst idea possible.

Impressive.

Ok... then Scrubs for a 9th season will last 6 episodes (the ones Braff is signed for) and beyond it there won't be a character to have Braff's character imagination . Because isn't that a drawing point ? That JD has these funny flashes and the rest goes in togethor.

They need a new main character. And the idea is a lot like when the Andy Griffith show morphed into Mayberry RFD in a way. They had the Sam character show up for X-Number of episodes and he soon became the star of it.

Here with Braff leaving they need a new main star. He shows up and gets the rub from Braff as the departing star.

[Nate Grey]

Original Law & Order will be back next season. Its gonna get a 20th season so NBC and the show can brag its tied Gunsmoke as hour long dramas that have lasted 20 years. Whether it stays a 21 is the question.

Meeting Gunsmoke's 20 years is one thing, exceeding it is another. I think they should plan for a 21th year with the intention of that being the last. If the ratings are spectacular, do an 11th hour change to the 2 series finale and make it a season finale.

[Anna]

Hasn't The Simpsons been around for 22 seasons? Seriously L&O has been declining. AS for L&O SVU, will it survive without its two top stars; especially when there's another death scheduled for the season finale?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Meeting Gunsmoke's 20 years is one thing, exceeding it is another. I think they should plan for a 21th year with the intention of that being the last. If the ratings are spectacular, do an 11th hour change to the 2 series finale and make it a season finale.

I think the moment Sam Waterson walks away ....should be the moment Law & Order ends. As much as people point at Jerry Orbach and say it was his show . Law and Order is Waterson's. He's been there 15+ years ...his Jack McCoy is the engine thats driven it.

Hasn't The Simpsons been around for 22 seasons? Seriously L&O has been declining. AS for L&O SVU, will it survive without its two top stars; especially when there's another death scheduled for the season finale?


Have Meloni and (her name escapes ) decided to leave ? Losing Stabler for SVU is a big blow since his personal life and children have become a big factor in the show as its went on. The show can survive with great casting ...SVU has survived with some great casting moves like Ice-T as a cop.

The original L & O seems to have been re-invigerated by the youth movement the show took. The cast seems young , new...and the ratings actually rebounded !

[Nate Grey]

Hasn't The Simpsons been around for 22 seasons? Seriously L&O has been declining. AS for L&O SVU, will it survive without its two top stars; especially when there's another death scheduled for the season finale?

*Another*? Who was the first? My DVR hates L&OSVU for some reason so I always get like the first second of it.

EDIT: And I have to disagree about L&O declining. Not sure about ratings, but storywise I'm liking it just fine. Bernard (Anthony Anderson) is an awesome character. The only complaint I have is I wish they'd wrap up McCoy trying to protect his political career while running the DA office at the same time. Its kinda old.

[Anna]

*Another*? Who was the first? My DVR hates L&OSVU for some reason so I always get like the first second of it.

EDIT: And I have to disagree about L&O declining. Not sure about ratings, but storywise I'm liking it just fine. Bernard (Anthony Anderson) is an awesome character. The only complaint I have is I wish they'd wrap up McCoy trying to protect his political career while running the DA office at the same time. Its kinda old.

There's one death planned for the finale. They say it's a veteran. IF Meloni and Hargitay leave ; that would be three people gone.

[Nate Grey]

I think the moment Sam Waterson walks away ....should be the moment Law & Order ends. As much as people point at Jerry Orbach and say it was his show . Law and Order is Waterson's. He's been there 15+ years ...his Jack McCoy is the engine thats driven it.

Agree 100%. So as not to temp fate, I think they should keep the show on at most two years (bringing it to 21) or at least one last year (to tie it with Gunsmoke). Waterson's not getting any younger after all.

Have Meloni and (her name escapes ) decided to leave ? Losing Stabler for SVU is a big blow since his personal life and children have become a big factor in the show as its went on. The show can survive with great casting ...SVU has survived with some great casting moves like Ice-T as a cop.

True. Given the subject matter of SVU, you have to form an emotional connection with the leads. They've done this over ten years with Elliot (his family, anger issues, children issues, etc) and Olivia (being the product of rape, etc). Of course it can be done, swapping out leads like tires, but you have to start from scratch with the emotional connections. And you can't play catchup with a few eps, you'd need years to eastablish it all over again. Could the show survive in the meantime? I think that's the only leverage Meloni and Hargitay have with renegotiating for more money. And its a valid point, too. Very valid. But the producers could easily say "We'll take our chances", too. Wait and see, I guess.

The original L & O seems to have been re-invigerated by the youth movement the show took. The cast seems young , new...and the ratings actually rebounded !

Really? :eek: That's good to hear. So...why are they moving it to Death Night, aka Fridays?

There's one death planned for the finale. They say it's a veteran. IF Meloni and Hargitay leave ; that would be three people gone.

Edit: I had to read that a few times to get it. lol So they're in effect cleaning house to save $$$? Honestly the only person I think can die without the show taking a major hit is Cragan. Anyone else...well, maybe Munch.

[Anna]

Agree 100%. So as not to temp fate, I think they should keep the show on at most two years (bringing it to 21) or at least one last year (to tie it with Gunsmoke). Waterson's not getting any younger after all.



True. Given the subject matter of SVU, you have to form an emotional connection with the leads. They've done this over ten years with Elliot (his family, anger issues, children issues, etc) and Olivia (being the product of rape, etc). Of course it can be done, swapping out leads like tires, but you have to start from scratch with the emotional connections. And you can't play catchup with a few eps, you'd need years to eastablish it all over again. Could the show survive in the meantime? I think that's the only leverage Meloni and Hargitay have with renegotiating for more money. And its a valid point, too. Very valid. But the producers could easily say "We'll take our chances", too. Wait and see, I guess.



Really? :eek: That's good to hear. So...why are they moving it to Death Night, aka Fridays?



Edit: I had to read that a few times to get it. lol So they're in effect cleaning house to save $$$? Honestly the only person I think can die without the show taking a major hit is Cragan. Anyone else...well, maybe Munch.
It's been said that Dick Wolf's notorious for playing hardball with actors who want raises. The cash crunch is what killed shows like Samantha Who? and Without A Trace. I had posted a story back in February or March that CBS had warned producers of several veteran shows to cut costs or face the axe.

[The Black Guardian]

Mondays: no significant change. It's still House and CSI:Miami, filled by either 24 or the CBS comedies.

Tuesdays: Still NCIS. Now with its child, NCIS:LA. After that... maybe I'll watch the local news.

Wednesdays: Looks like CBS straight through.

Thursdays: Bones, Fringe (has something finally stolen me from CSI?), The Mentalist

Fridays: Can't believe Medium has moved to CBS. There is still that wedge on Friday nights where nothing good is on, imo. I like Ghost Whisperer. I like Numb3rs. Between those, there is a black hole of crap that's existed for 3 seasons. Oh well. Medium is an improvement over The Ex-List.

Saturdays: no tv, unless I feign interest in Cops/America's Most Wanted

Sundays: Fox cartoon block. However, I'm not pleased with how The Cleveland Show is looking. It looks like a black Family Guy. That's all Seth MacFarlane could think of? Another dysfunctional family show?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Mondays: no significant change. It's still House and CSI:Miami, filled by either 24 or the CBS comedies.

Tuesdays: Still NCIS. Now with its child, NCIS:LA. After that... maybe I'll watch the local news.

Wednesdays: Looks like CBS straight through.

Thursdays: Bones, Fringe (has something finally stolen me from CSI?), The Mentalist

Fridays: Can't believe Medium has moved to CBS. There is still that wedge on Friday nights where nothing good is on, imo. I like Ghost Whisperer. I like Numb3rs. Between those, there is a black hole of crap that's existed for 3 seasons. Oh well. Medium is an improvement over The Ex-List.

Saturdays: no tv, unless I feign interest in Cops/America's Most Wanted

Sundays: Fox cartoon block. However, I'm not pleased with how The Cleveland Show is looking. It looks like a black Family Guy. That's all Seth MacFarlane could think of? Another dysfunctional family show?


Whats wild is Fox approved the show (The Cleveland Show) for a 2nd season already ! They have to be happy about the show since its not aired yet.

Plus Fox needs live-action shows worse than anything. And I think they realized that they basically cut their owns nuts off when they cancelled Arrested Development. Because AD sold a shitload of DVD's and was an emmy award winner and gave something Fox hadn't really had since the Simpsons launched. Something that won awards for quality.

If they don't get My Name is Earl and pair it with Til Death then they are bigger damn idiots than I thought. And people will continue to say.. "All Fox has is cartoons."

[The Black Guardian]

People really say, "All Fox has is cartoons?" Two hours per week and that's all they have? Fox has never been at a loss for good live-action series, imo.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

People really say, "All Fox has is cartoons?" Two hours per week and that's all they have? Fox has never been at a loss for good live-action series, imo.

Yep... its a joke that many would make and even MadTV poked fUn and had Frank Calindo as Madden a few years back go : "We at FOX have ...cartoons. Lots and lots of cartoons ha !"

When a show on your own network mocks you...not good.

Fox has struggled for years to launch live action shows. Since Married ..with Children and Malcom in the Middle...the networks rate of successful live action comedies have went down.

[Anna]

I just added CW; Priveleged is gone, TBS is joining the battle for Earl.

[Zero Hunter]

Besides the Office and 30 Rock there is not one other show On NBC I am actully that interested in seeing. I will still catch Law and Order reruns on TBS and such, but don't usually watch them on NBC proper. That is just plain sad.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I just added CW; Priveleged is gone, TBS is joining the battle for Earl.

TBS already airs Earl repeats in Syndication and its been said its one of their highest rated shows they air next to My Boys . It makes perfect sense for TBS to try and get Earl new.

So which wins Earl ?

FOX
ABC
TBS

Will CBS jump in and try and make a play for the show ?:tongue:

[Tuan]

Hot dam! Privileged is canned? I really liked that show too.

[Anna]

TBS already airs Earl repeats in Syndication and its been said its one of their highest rated shows they air next to My Boys . It makes perfect sense for TBS to try and get Earl new.

So which wins Earl ?

FOX
ABC
TBS

Will CBS jump in and try and make a play for the show ?:tongue:


:confused: Wins? :rolleyes:

[SUPERECWFAN1]

:confused: Wins? :rolleyes:

Well it seems like a battle to get the show. One of them will "win" its services.


Part of me wants Earl on a Network. Like an ABC or FOX. But knowing how the cancellation winds blow...I know if it goes TBS ...it could last for years on the channel and never have to worry about being cancelled.

And I love Earl. I really want it to have a long... long run.


NBC I think were never really secure with the show. Because as Greg Garcia told on the DVD of the 1st season :


"We shot the pilot and gave it to the network. They aired it for a test audiance and they LOVED IT. Loved the show and gave it a high mark. NBC was like... really ? So they retested it for a new group. And they loved it ! This would go on for 3 more times since NBC kept testing it , thinking perhaps we were involved in these testings. Finally NBC told us they would order the show."

I think they may have thought Earl was too ... trailer park for the network as time went on. Which is a shame...since its a great funny show and Earl Hickey is a hero for our times. :tongue:


http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt224/tylerhull_03/Earl.jpg

[Libaax]

Without A Trace i hope gets saved by another channel. Its the only good show we get over here of its kind.

Funny i thought 11th Hour had potential.

Law and Order:SVU is practicly the only police drama i can stand but without the two stars that made you a fan there is no point.

I was annoyed when they removed Lake(that native american actor).

Why must they ruin the only really good Law and Order.

[Michael P]

Sundays: Fox cartoon block. However, I'm not pleased with how The Cleveland Show is looking. It looks like a black Family Guy. That's all Seth MacFarlane could think of? Another dysfunctional family show?

What, were you under the impression he was creative or something?

[The Black Guardian]

Funny i thought 11th Hour had potential.
It would have, but instead of humans, they cast mannequins. Honestly, I felt like I was watching Commander Data and Cameron the Terminator every episode. The characters should have had the chemistry that's seen in The Mentalist. Then they wouldn't have needed to bring in the wisecracking black guy.

[Wild Card]

Fox needs live-action shows worse than anything. And I think they realized that they basically cut their owns nuts off when they cancelled Arrested Development. Because AD sold a shitload of DVD's and was an emmy award winner and gave something Fox hadn't really had since the Simpsons launched. Something that won awards for quality.What Fox need to do is stop moving the shows around and preempt them for ______ American Idol Specials. One thing I know for sure is that the Fox Schedule isn't set in stone.

And people will continue to say.. "All Fox has is cartoons."
You're the only one I ever "heard" say that. Besides most of Fox's programing is ugh Reality shows.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

What Fox need to do is stop moving the shows around and preempt them for ______ American Idol Specials. One thing I know for sure is that the Fox Schedule isn't set in stone.

And people will continue to say.. "All Fox has is cartoons."
You're the only one I ever "heard" say that. Besides most of Fox's programing is ugh Reality shows. [/QUOTE]


The reality shows also were mocked by that Madden spoof. "Fox on Thursday has Man vs Bear... ha Man vs Bear , Pat. Who will win that one ya think ? Now if the Bear faced Brett Favre...the bear would lose !"

I think when a show on your own network mocks your lineup and all...it says enough.

[Wild Card]

The reality shows also were mocked by that Madden spoof. "Fox on Thursday has Man vs Bear... ha Man vs Bear , Pat. Who will win that one ya think ? Now if the Bear faced Brett Favre...the bear would lose !"

I think when a show on your own network mocks your lineup and all...it says enough.
Well Fox has a long history of mocking itself. Remember MWC's "Fox viewing positions"

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Well Fox has a long history of mocking itself. Remember MWC's "Fox viewing positions"

Yep... but Married... also mocked ABC and other networks more badly than the funny Fox viewing positions scenes . Like a scene where Al built his dream toilet and then tells Peg "I'm constipated...." and watched ABC preview 30 something and Roseanne and walks to the bathroom. :tongue:

I still think Fox will always be ripped for its horrible handling of live action sitcoms . Til Death isn't doin much ...and well....what else does the network have there ?


One of the funniest things was the Scott Biao sitcom he was supposed to do in 2003/2004 called "Flash Forward" I believe. In it ...him and his buddy (a black guy) would be living togethor and getting in trouble at times. Flashing back to when they were kids in school or older getting in trouble. FOX approved the show for 13 episodes...then changed their mind and wanted to see a pilot.

Biao shot the pilot ...Fox looked and wanted to change some things. The 1st black actor was replaced. They shot the pilot again.... this time FOX had another problem . Could they change some female actors on the show ? Biao agreed and a 3RD PILOT was shot.... and this time...Fox had a final problem. Now could they change the series premise so the characters wouldn't flash back to when they were kids during the comedy show ?

The executive producer and Biao were screwed. That was the comedy's main deal...and he walked. Saying the FOX experince pissed him off at network TV . And he's not done a regular series since.

[noh-varr]

The reality shows also were mocked by that Madden spoof. "Fox on Thursday has Man vs Bear... ha Man vs Bear , Pat. Who will win that one ya think ? Now if the Bear faced Brett Favre...the bear would lose !"

I think when a show on your own network mocks your lineup and all...it says enough.

Um that is no longer hte case. Craig Ferguson mocks CBS all the time on his show. The Simpsons has mocked Fox for ages. There are a lot more minor examples here and there, but the sanctity of not making fun of your own network is LONG gone.

I've never heard Fox being referred to as just having cartoons either.

[hugh45]

Ah! The good 'ol days when FOX/HBO put out something to look forward to :frown:

[Libaax]

Yeah im watching The Wire first seasons and i wonder why there isnt a show like The Wire,Rome,Sopranos these days....

[JDogindy]

Where's King of the Hill? I thought NEXT season was gonna be its last. So its really THIS season? Has the finale aired yet? :confused:


I think the finale DID air, involving Hank Hill taking on an obnoxious Canuck who moved into Boomhauer's house for the summer. Real shame, as the finale got the treatment like most episodes (in the ads, it's just said as "after an all-new King of the Hill"), and I'm cringing at "The Cleveland Brown Show". If it wasn't for The Simpsons, Sunday night on Fox would be the Seth MacFarlane Network.

Anyway, I'm glad they cancelled the show that tried to use its timeslot (http://seriesandtv.com/cancelled-shows-2009-sit-down-shut-up-gets-cancelled/). "Sit Down, Shut Up" sucked ass! I hated that there were no drawn backgrounds, the main characters were all uninspired, the writing stunk, and I hated that all the students at the school were designed generically and not offered any speaking lines (you can have a show set in a school that mostly involve the teachers, but you gotta remember why teachers HAVE to go to school).

[Jared]

The executive producer and Biao were screwed. That was the comedy's main deal...and he walked. Saying the FOX experince pissed him off at network TV . And he's not done a regular series since.

I'm sure that's the only reason Scott Baio hasn't had a regular TV show in decades... :)

I haven't seen The Unit in ages. I would have liked it a lot more without all the stuff with the wives. I'm glad to know that Haysbert and the gang will be enjoying royalty checks from syndication after just losing their gig.

The only reason Rome is gone is that it was too damn expensive to produce.

I really hope NCIS:LA gets a name change. I saw the episode that introduced the new team. They had their own acyonym. OPSEC or something like that. Or they could just call it NCIS Undercover.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I'm sure that's the only reason Scott Baio hasn't had a regular TV show in decades... :)

I haven't seen The Unit in ages. I would have liked it a lot more without all the stuff with the wives. I'm glad to know that Haysbert and the gang will be enjoying royalty checks from syndication after just losing their gig.

The only reason Rome is gone is that it was too damn expensive to produce.

I really hope NCIS:LA gets a name change. I saw the episode that introduced the new team. They had their own acyonym. OPSEC or something like that. Or they could just call it NCIS Undercover.

Baio did do regular sitcom work until the 90's. Remember he was in ABC's short lived "Look Who's Talking" type show. The one ABC kept reworking over and over....

[The Black Guardian]

I really hope NCIS:LA gets a name change. I saw the episode that introduced the new team. They had their own acyonym. OPSEC or something like that. Or they could just call it NCIS Undercover.
Agreed. I preferred NCIS:O(ffice) of S(pecial)P(rojects), but I guess that's a lot of letters.

[Anna]

Negotiations to save Earl have ended. http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/279150-_My_Name_Is_Earl_Officially_Dead.php