What should Rachel's code name be?

[Uncle Nobs]

She's been known by several names & titles:

Rachel Anne Summers, Rachel Grey, Phoenix, Marvel Girl, Mother Askani, Bright Lady, Alyzr'n Summerset, White Warrior Princess, Hound, The Celestial Avatar, The Cosmic Avatar, R'Chell :rolleyes: , Starchild(e), Executioner, Scrapper...

Her most recent change was to call herself Rachel Grey/Marvel Girl after her dad pissed her off, her mom croaked, and her family was slaughtered (which, come to think of it, didn't provoke much of a response).

Assuming she remains an active member of a current X-team after War of Kings, what code name would you like her to use?

[eurazn]

LOL, I'd love for it to be R'Chel!

But on a more serious note, I think Starchild(e) or Askani (minus the "Mother") would be the best.

[psychic_therapy]

Young Phoenix? We just had Young X-Men after all...

[The Black Guardian]

She made a better Phoenix than her mom ever did.

[Uncle Nobs]

Right? Her mom was like the DYINGEST lady I ever knew!

"Jean, quick! Double-back around Magneto and use your TK to nope she's dead."

[Joe Franklin]

Firelight.

[Uncle Nobs]

Familykiller?

[Slung]

Right? Her mom was like the DYINGEST lady I ever knew!

"Jean, quick! Double-back around Magneto and use your TK to nope she's dead."

Ummm...how often has Rachel "died"

or more importantly been brainwashed?

[Cerridwen]

Askani, it may give her back the 'maturity' she needs lol

[eurazn]

Ummm...how often has Rachel "died"

or more importantly been brainwashed?

You speak the truth. She's been brainwashed WAY more times than Jean has died.

[Uncle Nobs]

I voted for Starchild.

It's time she stepped into the limelight with a prominent place on a prominent X-team.

Define her powers a little better (Phoenix Force: yes/no? Time-travel: to what extent?), make them distinct. Give her a costume that plays on her history and doesn't scream B-list. Give her a name that does the same.

Askani has possibilities, too. I just don't have much interest in revisiting that whole world and all the baggage that goes with it.

[Uncle Nobs]

You speak the truth. She's been brainwashed WAY more times than Jean has died.
Death-prone = quitter, drama queen, necessitates overblown stories with predictable outcomes.

Brainwashing-prone = sympathetic, allows open-ended storytelling.

She's one big raw nerve, susceptible to emotional upheavals, never really able to put her past behind her and find lasting peace.




Sorry, Jean. You still make a mean asparagus flambe.

[Pro]

If she's named Starchild then she needs to be in deep space or at least on the fringe of earth's solar system.

I still think restoring the mutant race and relocating the majority of them to a brand new planet on the edge of the Shi'ar empire would work wonders. Or maybe that planet filled with alien mutants that X-Factor visited years ago.

If they don't restore the mutant race then call her Askani and let her use her time manipulating powers to travel the multiverse collecting the remnants of the mutant race from all the other timelines in order to give them a new chance to thrive elsewhere. Could bring her into conflict with the Exiles for messing with timelines.

[peopleofpaper]

I like Marvel Girl, but R'chel is my secret favorite

[x_goalkeeper]

I did not like all of the names except for Starchild.. it sounds nice and unique.

[darknessatnoon]

I vote for Lucky Cow!

[Askani's Flame]

I voted for Askani as it is in the direction of her taking control of herself and her destiny.

[DungeonmasterJim]

Voted 'other' because I don't care for any of the names listed. And Phoenix doesn't really apply anymore.

I despise the name Starchild. Or anything ending in 'child' for a codename. It ruins all credibility of maturity of the character for me.

DM Jim

[AcesX1X]

LOL @ "scrapper."

askani would be the most grown-up name she could take. and it would probably be best for her PR all-around.

[CJ Lentze]

I like 'Starchilde' as one of Rachel's nicknames, but I don't prefer it as a superhero codename for her. To me, it's similar to how they call Storm the 'Wind-Rider', and Illyana the 'Darkchylde'.

I was thinking about codenames for Rachel a while back, but that was before the events of Kingbreaker 4, so the names I came up with were very much lodged in the cosmic. I thought 'Corona' might fit her; it's not only the outer layer of the sun's atmosphere, it also means 'crown'. Or maybe 'Blazar' to follow up on Quasar and Pulsar.

I thought the name 'Flux' would describe both her personality and her very existence as a time/space-displaced entity, but it doesn't have a nice 'ring', and there is already a Hulk villain called Flux.

I also think that one could have the same objection against 'Marvel Girl' as Dungeonmaster Jim has against 'Starchild'. 'Girl' doesn't sound mature enough. 'Marvel Woman' would not be an improvement.

I don't mind Phoenix if she has access to those powers, and Askani could be a nice nod to the chapter of her past that was undone. It would mean something for her if she took her own name; Phyla-Vell renounced the legacy names 'Captain Marvel' and 'Quasar', too, though there was also some insecurity and self-doubt involved there.

[jarrod]

Ummm...how often has Rachel "died"

or more importantly been brainwashed?
As "Phoenix"?

Jean
-3+ deaths (DPS, Planet X, Endsong)
-2 brainwashings (Mesmero, DPS)

Rachel
-1 death (Necrom)
-2 brainwashings (Mesmero, Farouk)

[Dagger]

Lady Danskin fo sho! She and Kitty rocked them back in the 80's like nobody's business!

[Dagger]

As "Phoenix"?

Jean
-3+ deaths (DPS, Planet X, Endsong)
-2 brainwashings (Mesmero, DPS)

Rachel
-1 death (Necrom)
-2 brainwashings (Mesmero, Farouk)
Rachel died in The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix after she gave Scott and Jean their powers back.

[jarrod]

You speak the truth. She's been brainwashed WAY more times than Jean has died.
Not if we count each Endsong death individually. Then Jean's deaths outnumber Rachel's brainwashings in entirety, not just as Phoenix. :P


Rachel died in The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix after she gave Scott and Jean their powers back.
She wasn't "Phoenix" then though. :biggrin:

[Dagger]

Not if we count each Endsong death individually. Then Jean's deaths outnumber Rachel's brainwashings in entirety, not just as Phoenix. :P



She wasn't "Phoenix" then though. :biggrin:
She still died, tho. And didn't she still have a portion of the Phoenix force in her? Idk, I'd have to re-read it, it's been years since I read it.

[lockerogue]

As "Phoenix"?

Jean
-3+ deaths (DPS, Planet X, Endsong)
-2 brainwashings (Mesmero, DPS)

Rachel
-1 death (Necrom)
-2 brainwashings (Mesmero, Farouk)

Wasn't she also Bogan's slave or something. At least that's what the X-treme X-Men issue summary said.

[Cerridwen]

I was thinking about codenames for Rachel a while back, but that was before the events of Kingbreaker 4, so the names I came up with were very much lodged in the cosmic. I thought 'Corona' might fit her; it's not only the outer layer of the sun's atmosphere, it also means 'crown'.


Corona is also the rim of the penis, LOL. It would work if she still has the tattoo. :tongue:

[Dagger]

When did Rachel get her hound tattoos back?

[CJ Lentze]

Corona is also the rim of the penis, LOL. It would work if she still has the tattoo. :tongue:
She still does, sadly. Just goes to show you'll always regret getting a big tattoo of someone or something you'll be separated from later.

Maybe she and Korvus could take a joint codename and call themselves the Twin Phalluses (Phalli?).
When did Rachel get her hound tattoos back?They re-emerged on her face when the 'echo' of the Phoenix Force inexplicably left her body in Kingbreaker 4.

EDIT: Wow, that means she's tattoo girl now. People always wonder about how most of the X-Men don't have any tats, but Ray's covered in them at this point.

[jarrod]

Wasn't she also Bogan's slave or something. At least that's what the X-treme X-Men issue summary said.
She was, but she wasn't Phoenix then either.

Again, the argument hinged on Rachel being a better {b]Phoenix[/b] than Jean. And she was. Unquestionably.

Looked better too. :biggrin:

[Dagger]

She was, but she wasn't Phoenix then either.

Again, the argument hinged on Rachel being a better {b]Phoenix[/b] than Jean. And she was. Unquestionably.

Looked better too. :biggrin:
Her boobs were definately bigger. *looks at J-Rod's avatar*

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Phoenix - if they let her have the Phoenix Force back.

Otherwise, Starchilde.

But definitely NOT Marvel Girl.

[Prodigy55]

Surge........

[jarrod]

Her boobs were definately bigger. *looks at J-Rod's avatar*
Rachel is stacked. Mother MAMZ!

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9158/wedding1e.jpg http://www.comicspace.com/jamesroberts/uploaded/21157/1213629287_J3pC_y47Tv.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/797/phoenixq.jpg

[jarrod]

Surge........
C+C Mutant Factory disagree. We all know who they associate most closely with Rachel...

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w213/jarrodand/X-ray.jpg

[Prodigy55]

jarrod stop trolling. Laura was obviously disgusted by that costume and now hates Prodigy for it.

[jarrod]

jarrod stop trolling. Laura was obviously disgusted by that costume and now hates Prodigy for it.
Who doesn't hate Prodigy? I mean besides even more expendable characters?

Self hate is second nature for Laura. Plus she's genetically Rachel's aunt, Weapon X was the forerunner to the Hound Program, temporary roomates, there's a multitude of connections here.

[darknessatnoon]

Who doesn't hate Prodigy? I mean besides even more expendable characters?

Self hate is second nature for Laura. Plus she's genetically Rachel's aunt, Weapon X was the forerunner to the Hound Program, temporary roomates, there's a multitude of connections here.

It's R'Chel's pattern to latch onto far more popular characters to promote herself, so I see this as a reasonable line of thought.

[Prodigy55]

Only real life people hate Prodigy.

[jarrod]

It's R'Chel's pattern to latch onto far more popular characters to promote herself, so I see this as a reasonable line of thought.
A derivative latching on to a derivate is a first though. Rachel is a trailblazer!


Only real life people hate Prodigy.
X-23 is not real life people. She's not even real 616 people.

[ClanAskani]

The only one that works is Askani.

Rachel is a grown woman. She's too old to be called Marvel "Girl" or Star "child".
Unfortunately she can't get the name Phoenix back.

[Bronze Badger]

Aurora Whorealis

[Pixie_Solanas]

Marvel Girl is delightfully post-modern in its retro flair - yet I do love the connotations that can be gleaned from the term "Scrapper".

Askani sounds like a low-rent furniture store at a second-rate mall.

[jarrod]

The only one that works is Askani.

Rachel is a grown woman. She's too old to be called Marvel "Girl" or Star "child".
Unfortunately she can't get the name Phoenix back.
She's only like 22 max. I wouldn't consider most 22 year old girls I know "full grown women". I consider them interns.

[bakla]

Right? Her mom was like the DYINGEST lady I ever knew!

"Jean, quick! Double-back around Magneto and use your TK to nope she's dead."

X-men: "AGAIN?!?"

Maybe we can take a tip from Charles Schultz and call her Rerun.

[jarrod]

Marvel Girl is delightfully post-modern in its retro flair - yet I do love the connotations that can be gleaned from the term "Scrapper".

Askani sounds like a low-rent furniture store at a second-rate mall.
Marvel Girl's the right direction, but they need to really embrace the retro.

I suggest an all-Allred makeover!

[Pixie_Solanas]

Marvel Girl's the right direction, but they need to really embrace the retro.

I suggest an all-Allred makeover!

God yes. I'm feeling a Nancy Sinatra, 60s mod vibe. And Allred is the man to do it. I remember he did a backpage story (in a horrid issue of GenNext?) about the original X-men getting down in a beat poet club - and it thoroughly rocked.

[jarrod]

God yes. I'm feeling a Nancy Sinatra, 60s mod vibe. And Allred is the man to do it. I remember he did a backpage story (in a horrid issue of GenNext?) about the original X-men getting down in a beat poet club - and it thoroughly rocked.
I can see it now; haute bob, cocktail mini, thigh high gogo boots...

Can Milligan & Allred take over Uncanny? Plz?

[subliminal]

Askani is the one... just Askani1

[Pixie_Solanas]

I can see it now; haute bob, cocktail mini, thigh high gogo boots...

Can Milligan & Allred take over Uncanny? Plz?

If I had my druthers, all X-women (and a few of the men) would have this as standard attire.

[Crowforge]

Askani is the best of the non-hand-me-down names.

[Wind-Breaker]

I still think you guys should seriously consider the code name "Fire-Crotch". Think of the entertainment value of Cyclops barking orders at Rachel using that code name. "Quick Fire-Crotch, evasive maneuvers!"

[Ryan W]

I like Starchilde or Raptor, personally.

[Wind Rider]

Mullet Girl? Sombrero Child? A skanky??

No, seriously... she just needs a whole new name.... but just like Jean could never decide on a name, she can be Rachel Grey.

[Alphaxman]

I really don’t like any of these names other than Phoenix. But Marvel will never let her have that when Jean started using it. Maybe she could go by Superstar. I did like the Flux idea.

[PsylockeSpears]

Marvel Girl,as was said befor tho,has to be retrofied

[Rick Summers]

I voted Starchilde since she already been called that by several higher level beings.
It's time for a change.
No more Phoenix (the concept is too screwy now...thanks Marvel editors!)
No more being in Mommy's shadow...Marvel Girl is so corny anyway.

[darknessatnoon]

What about Hound?

[Rick Summers]

What about Hound?

Been there...done that.
Like Obama says...time for CHANGE.

[darknessatnoon]

Been there...done that.
Like Obama says...time for CHANGE.

War of Kings shows she still has the marks. Rachel Summers will never change. She's the quintessential slave.

[Rick Summers]

War of Kings shows she still has the marks. Rachel Summers will never change. She's the quintessential slave.

So you've been to the future and seen this already?
Can you give me the next winning lotto numbers while you're at it?

[darknessatnoon]

So you've been to the future and seen this already?
Can you give me the next winning lotto numbers while you're at it?

Why don't you ask Rachel?

[Yearning4Yorick]

So you've been to the future and seen this already?
Can you give me the next winning lotto numbers while you're at it?

I don't think he's been to the future, but he's certainly residing in the present.

[Rick Summers]

I can't believe you guys get off on this.
You really have nothing better to do than attack people who for their own reasons like Rachel?
Really?

[Yearning4Yorick]

I can't believe you guys get off on this.
You really have nothing better to do than attack people who for their own reasons like Rachel?
Really?

I'm not attacking you, the Hound name isn't a bad idea because of recent developments in Kingbreaker and War of Kings.

[Rick Summers]

I don't think he's been to the future, but he's certainly residing in the present.

And there's no sarcasm directed toward me in the above quote whatsoever?
Sure, ok.

Anyway...I still vote for Starchilde. If it's good enough for Galactus...LOL

[Yearning4Yorick]

And there's no sarcasm directed toward me in the above quote whatsoever?
Sure, ok.

Anyway...I still vote for Starchilde. If it's good enough for Galactus...LOL

No there is plenty of sarcasm, but it's only there to match yours. You can't play the victim here.

[Justin K.]

Bloodhound

More reason for her to go back to her red outfit
It pays homage to what she originally was
Telepathy is her best resource
Face tattoos give her a more fierce look

[AcesX1X]

bloodhound sounds like a dog's name, justin, LOLLLL. you can't name her after rover.

[Justin K.]

bloodhound sounds like a dog's name, justin, LOLLLL. you can't name her after rover.

Why should Guido be the only one with a dog-like name?

[Rick Summers]

No there is plenty of sarcasm, but it's only there to match yours. You can't play the victim here.

Yet you can still say it's not an attack against me. Interesting grasp on reality there.
And yeah I can definitely be sarcastic...I freely admit that. But I only get that way when things are being said that either make no sense or are uncalled for.

???Bloodhound???
Yeah I'm not feelin it :tongue:

[Yearning4Yorick]

Yet you can still say it's not an attack against me. Interesting grasp on reality there.
And yeah I can definitely be sarcastic...I freely admit that. But I only get that way when things are being said that either make no sense or are uncalled for.

???Bloodhound???
Yeah I'm not feelin it :tongue:

Doesn't this post belong in the War of Kings Rachel thread?

A grasp of reality is sorely needed there.

[AcesX1X]

can you two please stop bickering? yearning4yorick thank you for admitting your sarcasm. rick summers, you are being sarcastic too, and are just baiting yearning4yorick.

justin, what about askani?

how about starbird.

[Yearning4Yorick]

can you two please stop bickering? yearning4yorick thank you for admitting your sarcasm. rick summers, you are being sarcastic too, and are just baiting yearning4yorick.

justin, what about askani?

how about starbird.

I apologize for derailing the thread.

[Justin K.]

justin, what about askani?

how about starbird.

Her name needs fire in it.
It sounds cooler. Something with fire

[Seres]

Wouldn't she be better without a codename?

Just because, her surnames happen to make it clear that she is the daughter of both Scott Summers and Jean Grey. Surely that's more imposing to an opponent then having a codename?

[AcesX1X]

but stars are made of fire.

[Swashbuckler]

Doesn't this post belong in the War of Kings Rachel thread?

A grasp of reality is sorely needed there.

This is too true!!

I say we call her "ChronoMutt"

[Justin K.]

but stars are made of fire.

compressed gasses and chemicals actually

[Pixie_Solanas]

compressed gasses and chemicals actually

"GasBall".

Done.

[Swashbuckler]

"GasBall".

Done.

"GasChilde"

[Wind-Breaker]

Her name needs fire in it.
It sounds cooler. Something with fire

Fire-Crotch! Come on people!

[Perfection/Emma 2]

Starchilde or Rachel Grey

[Pixie_Solanas]

"GasChilde"

The superfluous "e" at the end of "Childe" gives it a touch of bloated regal class. Love.

[AcesX1X]

compressed gasses and chemicals actually

i'm going to get you.

[darknessatnoon]

I can't believe you guys get off on this.
You really have nothing better to do than attack people who for their own reasons like Rachel?
Really?

You're the one who attacked my suggestion. Stop being a baby.

[Prodigy55]

I don't think they should address her directly, just call her "you" or "that one".

[mattbib]

I don't like Starchild only because it makes me think of young Elizabeth on the old V television series.

I actually don't think she needs a codename.

[Bronze Badger]

I don't think they should address her directly, just call her "you" or "that one".

How about Aberration?

[Wind-Breaker]

How about Aberration?

Or they could just treat as the Meg Griffin of the group

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b95/jamesthom101/Family%20Guy/MegGriffin6.gif

[bakla]

They should have the Imperial Guard be decimated in the War of Kings and have Rachel take up the name Oracle. Without the Phoenix force, it's a great codename for a telepath/telekinetic.

[Uncle Nobs]

Voted 'other' because I don't care for any of the names listed. And Phoenix doesn't really apply anymore.

I despise the name Starchild. Or anything ending in 'child' for a codename. It ruins all credibility of maturity of the character for me.

DM Jim
Good point. "Starchilde" also reeks of early '90s bad girl cheesecake comics, now that I think of it.
I like 'Starchilde' as one of Rachel's nicknames, but I don't prefer it as a superhero codename for her. To me, it's similar to how they call Storm the 'Wind-Rider', and Illyana the 'Darkchylde'.

I was thinking about codenames for Rachel a while back, but that was before the events of Kingbreaker 4, so the names I came up with were very much lodged in the cosmic. I thought 'Corona' might fit her; it's not only the outer layer of the sun's atmosphere, it also means 'crown'. Or maybe 'Blazar' to follow up on Quasar and Pulsar.
Yup, it's settled. Starchild works better as an informal title than a code name.

I fear the endless beer references with Corona.

Nebula?

Horizon?

Coda?

Halo?

Supernova?

Boobs McSlavey?

Cosmic Ray?

X-Ray?

What? Shut up now?
As "Phoenix"?

Jean
-3+ deaths (DPS, Planet X, Endsong)
-2 brainwashings (Mesmero, DPS)

Rachel
-1 death (Necrom)
-2 brainwashings (Mesmero, Farouk)
Don't forget Mojo (if that's ever even been fully revealed).

[Uncle Nobs]

X-men: "AGAIN?!?"

Maybe we can take a tip from Charles Schultz and call her Rerun.
Maybe I can take a tip from Charles Schultz and make you into a blankey I will carry with me everywhere. Deal with THAT!

[Uncle Nobs]

I don't like Starchild only because it makes me think of young Elizabeth on the old V television series.

I actually don't think she needs a codename.
1) Only YOU remember that!

2) It seems several peeps agree with you. So Rachel Grey or Rachel Summers?

[Aguja]

They should have the Imperial Guard be decimated in the War of Kings and have Rachel take up the name Oracle. Without the Phoenix force, it's a great codename for a telepath/telekinetic.

OMG that will NEVER happen. Oracle is fierce and a million times better than Rachel.

[Justin K.]

OMG that will NEVER happen. Oracle is fierce and a million times better than Rachel.

Not to mention better taste in costumes, in spite of Oracle only having 1-2 variations of hers.

[Aguja]

Not to mention better taste in costumes, in spite of Oracle only having 1-2 variations of hers.

True. Although that naked savage look she was sporting in New X-Men was a hot mess.

[Justin K.]

True. Although that naked savage look she was sporting in New X-Men was a hot mess.

I don't recall Rachel being in any variation of New X-men

[Aguja]

I meant Oracle.

[Rick Summers]

True. Although that naked savage look she was sporting in New X-Men was a hot mess.

I thought she looked hawt.

[Uncle Nobs]

Fine then.

I'm going to call her Twilight and you're all stuck with it.

[mattbib]

Fine then.

I'm going to call her Twilight and you're all stuck with it.Of course you are...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/18/TwilightPoster.jpg/404px-TwilightPoster.jpg

[Uncle Nobs]

You are such a mangirl.

[eurazn]

Wouldn't she be better without a codename?

Just because, her surnames happen to make it clear that she is the daughter of both Scott Summers and Jean Grey. Surely that's more imposing to an opponent then having a codename?

No. The "Grey" name implies constant death. The "Summers" name implies throwaway clones and an unhealthy Mr. Sinister obsession. Furthermore, superheroes without codenames are like cats who don't "haz a cheeseburger." Not compelling!

"GasChilde"

The superfluous "e" at the end of "Childe" gives it a touch of bloated regal class. Love.

Wonderful suggestion, Swash, and brilliant observation, Torpor!

[ManiacalWon]

Just call her Firebird...


or Firebyrde for those who like to play with the alphabet.

[Justin K.]

Fyrebirde?

[CJ Lentze]

I fear the endless beer references with Corona.I doubt that she would mind. It could become her 'signature' drink of choice, like James Bond's shaken Martini. She just has to hope that Corona 'ships' intergalactically if she visits bars in Shi'ar space.

...Boobs McSlavey?

Cosmic Ray?

X-Ray?

What? Shut up now?
Please don't.

Mourning Star?

Red Dwarf?

...Milky Ray?


Her code name would depend primarily on where she would go after War Of Kings. If she stays in space, we may assume that there will still be a Shi'ar Empire for the Starjammers to oppose, so Rachel would want a name that strikes fear into the hearts of the Shi'ar soldiers. I suppose Phoenix would do nicely. The firebird has been Ray's symbol for 20-plus years of her superhero history almost non-stop, so who's to say she'll be Phoenix-less for long.

If she goes to Earth after WoK (which I'd prefer), she'd want something different, but that might depend on which position she'd take in the current dynamics of the mutant population. Whether she joins a team of bright, optimistic heroes, or a darker outfit, for example.

But I think neither 'Phoenix' nor 'Marvel Girl' describes a telepath/telekinetic of her caliber very well.
I like Starchilde or Raptor, personally.
I would like Raptor a lot, despite the dinosaur associations that could be made.

[x_goalkeeper]

Please don't.

Mourning Star?

Red Dwarf?

...Milky Ray?

Very funny! :biggrin:

The Morning/Mourning Star really has a good potential to me though.

[ManiacalWon]

If we really need to the keep the Bird of Fire idea; FLAMINGO, or FLAMING-HO.

[jarrod]

No. The "Grey" name implies constant death. The "Summers" name implies throwaway clones and an unhealthy Mr. Sinister obsession.
She could take atfer her biological dad (Rachel Howlett) or step-mom (Rachel Frost)!

Or she could take Kitty's name after they return to San Fran and get gay married. Kitty and Rachel Pryde has a nice ring to it...