Deadpool #10 *spoilers*

[Kusanagi]

It seems the war between Osborn and Pool is just heating up, and this time old brilo pad head is sending in the big guns.

Issue starts with Norman being his normal dickish self to the media, only to get a surprise visit from Pool. Norman not to be outdone begins a campaign on two fronts to finish off the now broke merc.

Meanwhile Deadpool's slumming it (craigslist tsk tsk poor Pool) taking whack jobs for chump change. Don't really know how I feel about the guy he offs, though judging by the impartial observer he might have deserved it. Still moral implications aside it reminds us Pool can be a cold bastard.

Deadpool not wasting the opportunity to be in an house with easily pawnable items goes on a looting spree, only to be interrupted Purple suited evil Avenger...who's name escapes Pool at the moment.

All I can say about the fight is, if the fight continues like this for the next couple issues I'm going to be a very happy comic geek. Way's been sort of hit and miss, but I'll call this one a hit.


...yes I avoided the easy Bullseye joke, who do I look like, Wade? :tongue:

[RunningWithJuanPablo]

My first Deadpool book of this series and I liked it. I thought it funny that he was hired over a rumor that appears to be super-nasty, which warranted the offing of the poor delivery chap. It is crazy-cool how Wade can turn a relatively nice conversation into one in which his is aggressive and threatening, in that psychotic style he's famous for. What did the whole “Respawn LOL” sign mean? It makes me think back to online gaming, particularly shooters with the respawn setting, but I’m not sure about its meaning in the Deadpool context.

[CMBMOOL]

Is it me or is it going to be tough for Osborn to try to explain this one to the media ? :tongue:

[ANewHope]

I didn't get the respawn lol joke either...

But I appreciated that Deadpool came off as more serious this issue. But he was still manipulative and unexpected. Funny in an unpredictable way. Like who eats Pineapple and olive Pizza ????

This issue wasn't laugh out loud funny, but I still really enjoyed it.

The Bulleye's recognition moment was classic. Definitely the highlight of the issue..

"You can't possibly be this stupid."

"Don't underestimate me"

[jazzbass101]

The Respawn, LOL joke referred to the fact that Norman thought his TBolts killed Deadpool at the end of their recent crossover (Thunderbolts #131).

I loved this issue. I started this DP series with issue 6 and it's been getting consistently better.

[Samuraixsithlord]

I really think Bullseye is in over his head. Nothing he can do will hurt Wade in the long term, and i'd go out on a limb and say that Wade is the better fighter, when he can be serious.

[psycwave]

Bullseye is about to get pwned by Pool.

NUFF SAID

[HaroldAllnut]

My first Deadpool book of this series and I liked it.

Same here. I'm going to try it for this arc and if I like it, I'll stick with the title. So far, I'm just sad I didn't add it earlier.

And that "RESPAWN LOL" joke was hilarious.

[Ex_]

I know that there are a lot of Way-haters, but I've LOVED this series from the beginning. This issue was no different.

When someone dies in a video game, they come back to life eventually--that's called a respawn. That joke was HILARIOUS!

His banter with the rich guy was very funny too, as was "I'm beating you like you're my stepson!" Good stuff. Loving it!

[JCurwen]

And that "RESPAWN LOL" joke was hilarious.

Agreed. That was awesome. :biggrin:

[DarkCrisis]

I liked the issue although I had a couple of nits to pick.

[MathC]

I thought the pizza delivery guy murder was actually pretty funny. This issue was better than what I expected which means I'm not yet ready to remove the serie from my pull list.

[coldstar]

I thought it was pretty good; and I haven't liked most of Way's work so far. Not sure why Osborn thought Bullseye would be a good matchup... as has been shown, there are few ways to get around healing factors, and being filled with bullets/arrows/playing cards isn't really one of them. Seriously, Daken would've done better. Still, a good read.

[Ex_]

I thought it was pretty good; and I haven't liked most of Way's work so far. Not sure why Osborn thought Bullseye would be a good matchup... as has been shown, there are few ways to get around healing factors, and being filled with bullets/arrows/playing cards isn't really one of them. Seriously, Daken would've done better. Still, a good read.

No-Prize response: It's safe to say that the biggest 'loose cannon' on the Avengers is Bulls/Hawkeye--if Norman sics him against a threat like Deadpool, it's more likely to keep his focus, as he's less likely to go out murdering common criminals/innocents.

[coldstar]

No-Prize response: It's safe to say that the biggest 'loose cannon' on the Avengers is Bulls/Hawkeye--if Norman sics him against a threat like Deadpool, it's more likely to keep his focus, as he's less likely to go out murdering common criminals/innocents.

Fair enough. Seems like it could apply to a lot of the team... but so far, Bullseye's been the biggest problem in that regard.

[Yunlee]

''Deadpool #10 Sells Out and Returns With a Second Printing'' (http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.7959.Deadpool_%2310_Goes_Back_to_Pres s?utm_source=rss_new_news_feed&utm_medium=feed_link&utm_campaign=rss_feeds)

[ivesaidway2much]

I know that there are a lot of Way-haters, but I've LOVED this series from the beginning. This issue was no different.

When someone dies in a video game, they come back to life eventually--that's called a respawn. That joke was HILARIOUS!

His banter with the rich guy was very funny too, as was "I'm beating you like you're my stepson!" Good stuff. Loving it!I've hated almost everything Way has done at Marvel. With two exceptions. His Bullseye mini's and Deadpool. So I'm pretty excited about this arc.

[Craig T. Nelson]

Bullseye had a pretty good line at the end. And whie I'm more of a fan of hero-wannabe-Niecza Wade, what's the occasional murder going to harm? You do have to remind people he's a border-line sociopath.

[Yunlee]

I've hated almost everything Way has done at Marvel. With two exceptions. His Bullseye mini's and Deadpool. So I'm pretty excited about this arc.

Pretty much the same thing with me.

[pariah-1972]

I really like this issue tho the colouring was a bit too dark in places which made it a little hard to see.

I know i said before that i didn't understand why Norman wouldn't send the Thunderbolts after him but i am getting a little worn out with them using Norman as his arch nemesis so many times.

So i guess that i'm being a bit of a hypocrite.

[hierro_boshid0]

I thought it funny that he was hired over a rumor that appears to be super-nasty, which warranted the offing of the poor delivery chap.

Yeah it's even funnier that he got hired to do that over Craig's-List. That sounds like a job you would get when offering mercenary services over that website. That whole scenario was hilarious, lol that will probably go down as a classic Deadpool moment.

I liked the issue although I had a couple of nits to pick.

The only thing that kinda f$#%ed with me was him and Bullseye meeting up again. Usually when ever they appeared together they were always buddies. Best buds. Buddinghams. Even when tryin to kill eachother they were buds, lol they always had that real dysfunctional friendship. I remember Deadpool went to hang out with Bullseye on a hit to try and get his confidence back up as an assassin, and Bullseye gave him a real heart to heart in that issue lol. You didn't really get that vibe between the two in this though.

But yeah, I thought it was a great book regardless. I even like how Medina gave him those black gloves. I don't know if that was a coloring mistake, or if it was intended. I don't know why, but I thought it made for some awesome visuals to his costume. lol It just looked cool...

[Omega Alpha]

I know i said before that i didn't understand why Norman wouldn't send the Thunderbolts after him.

He already did, and it didn't worked.

[Starscream]

there was something good or funny on every page of this issue.

But tbh this entire run of Way has been good. I know its only 10 issues old but thus far its pretty solid.

Specialy liked the way he treated the house owner and how the guy actualy agreed with him.

[Fatguy]

This was definitely one of my favorite issues of the current run, I LOVED the pizza guy hit! And this issue did what I need from my Deadpool, it had a nice balance between goofy moron Deadpool and dangerous Deadpool.

[pariah-1972]

He already did, and it didn't worked.

UGh i meant Dark Avengers sorry:redface:

[humpa]

Am i the only one who really disliked the killing of the pizza guy?

That guy was innocent. It was cause he spread a rumor 9 years ago, and that girls life went downhill because of that? thats complete bull. that girl most likely let her own life spiral downhill and blames that guy.

its just deadpool just killed an innocent guy, and i dont like that.

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

Am i the only one who really disliked the killing of the pizza guy?

That guy was innocent. It was cause he spread a rumor 9 years ago, and that girls life went downhill because of that? thats complete bull. that girl most likely let her own life spiral downhill and blames that guy.

its just deadpool just killed an innocent guy, and i dont like that.

True, but let's not forget that Deadpool can be an unhinged, psychopathic killer. I can't recall the issue number, but in Joe Kelly's run there was a scene in Deadpool's house where there was the corpse of a mailman stuffed inside the wall.
It's just another aspect to his character and a reminder that he's not as pure as the driven snow.

[Craig T. Nelson]

Am i the only one who really disliked the killing of the pizza guy?

That guy was innocent. It was cause he spread a rumor 9 years ago, and that girls life went downhill because of that? thats complete bull. that girl most likely let her own life spiral downhill and blames that guy.

its just deadpool just killed an innocent guy, and i dont like that.

I empathize, especially as a guy who found Deadpool via C&D. But his original solo fleshes this out a little bit, like the guy above me said, he is a killer.

I didn't let it ruin the issue for me. He's better as a character if he does the occasional rotten deed, imo.

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

I empathize, especially as a guy who found Deadpool via C&D. But his original solo fleshes this out a little bit, like the guy above me said, he is a killer.

I didn't let it ruin the issue for me. He's better as a character if he does the occasional rotten deed, imo.

Great avatar. Wade would be proud!:biggrin:
On a serious note though, R.I.P. Bea.

[Kusanagi]

Yeah the offing of the Pizza guy was very reminiscent of the Joe Kelly run. A little wince worthy but not at all out of character for Pool.

[Fatguy]

Am i the only one who really disliked the killing of the pizza guy?

That guy was innocent. It was cause he spread a rumor 9 years ago, and that girls life went downhill because of that? thats complete bull. that girl most likely let her own life spiral downhill and blames that guy.

its just deadpool just killed an innocent guy, and i dont like that.

Well, he IS an Assassin/Mercenary, not a superhero. Its up to him to decide who's "innocent", and Wade decided this guy certainly wasn't. Plus, lets not pretend physical damage is the only kind of damage that matters. Its certainly possible that this guy DID ruin some girls life.

[pariah-1972]

Am i the only one who really disliked the killing of the pizza guy?

That guy was innocent. It was cause he spread a rumor 9 years ago, and that girls life went downhill because of that? thats complete bull. that girl most likely let her own life spiral downhill and blames that guy.

its just deadpool just killed an innocent guy, and i dont like that.I'm not crazy about it either but Deadpool is a mercenary not a superhero (tho sometimes it is hard to tell)and besides killing the guy is not gonna get her reputation back anyways.

[jackolover]

I found this a very disturbing read. Daniel Way took it from a very light hearted romp around with the Widow, to, this very touchy drama where Deadpool was on the the edge of killing that hostage, whose house Wade invaded. DP already killed Gavin on a contract right in front of him, and I thought Wade was about to say, that the hostage was the secondary target. It was very well done. Didn't matter. Bullseye kills the hostage anyway. Bullseye is back to his accurate best again, because he nails Wade in the last full page spread, with a richoceting arrow.

Bullseye is like the next Wolverine. He's in like 4 books right's now. Bulls was the hero of the TBolts, so he at least deserves to be the front runner in the Dark Reign.

[Sean Whitmore]

I found Deadpool ordering around the guy he was robbing hilarious.

The rest of the issue was good, if slight. I'm just worried about the length of this arc. I can't help but think back to Way's 5-issue-long fight scene with Deadpool in Wolverine Origins and wonder if this story will be paced better.


SEAN

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

I found Deadpool ordering around the guy he was robbing hilarious.

The rest of the issue was good, if slight. I'm just worried about the length of this arc. I can't help but think back to Way's 5-issue-long fight scene with Deadpool in Wolverine Origins and wonder if this story will be paced better.


SEAN

I'm prepared to give Way the benefit of the doubt on this one. I wasn't exactly thrilled with the 5-parter in Wolverine Origins either but he seems to have got a better grasp of the character since then.

[pariah-1972]

I found Deadpool ordering around the guy he was robbing hilarious.

The rest of the issue was good, if slight. I'm just worried about the length of this arc. I can't help but think back to Way's 5-issue-long fight scene with Deadpool in Wolverine Origins and wonder if this story will be paced better.


SEANHave you not been reading all of his Deadpool? his pacing on all the Deadpool issues have been great..
Look everyone agrees that his Origins has been total crap but i wish people would cut the guy some slack.

[Gitaroo_Dude]

Have you not been reading all of his Deadpool? his pacing on all the Deadpool issues have been great..
Look everyone agrees that his Origins has been total crap but i wish people would cut the guy some slack.

I can't agree with that, his pacing on the Thunderbolts crossover was BAD.

Those were the only two DP issues of his I've read, and they were enough.

[pariah-1972]

I can't agree with that, his pacing on the Thunderbolts crossover was BAD.

Those were the only two DP issues of his I've read, and they were enough.Can you explain to me how it was bad cause i don't understand that? i mean the pacing would have been worse maybe if the story didn't crossover but we only got two issues.

[Gitaroo_Dude]

Can you explain to me how it was bad cause i don't understand that? i mean the pacing would have been worse maybe if the story didn't crossover but we only got two issues.

That's the problem. The story felt like it could have been done in two or maybe three issues, not 4.

The worst offender was Way's first issue. That Jack and the beanstalk thing? Awful. The entire issue was just Deadpool climbing up the tower without even engaging the TBolts until the last issue. People could have skipped it entirely and would not have missed out on anything. It was just way too drawn out.

[pariah-1972]

That's the problem. The story felt like it could have been done in two or maybe three issues, not 4.

The worst offender was Way's first issue. That Jack and the beanstalk thing? Awful. The entire issue was just Deadpool climbing up the tower without even engaging the TBolts until the last issue. People could have skipped it entirely and would not have missed out on anything. It was just way too drawn out.I get what you are saying but it's nowhere near as bad as his Origins.

[HaroldAllnut]

I don't have as much history with Way as some of you do since I'm primarily a DC reader, but I was pleased with his portrayal of Wade and I think this specific issue was well-paced. It probably helps that this is only a 3-issue story and therefore probably won't give him the chance of screwing up via drawing things out.

On an entirely different note, I think that Paco Medina's a great artists for Deadpool. Whenever I think of the character, I either think of either Paco Medina or Carlo Barbieri's pencils. They just suit the character's essence perfectly.

[Red Lotus]

I really think Bullseye is in over his head. Nothing he can do will hurt Wade in the long term, and i'd go out on a limb and say that Wade is the better fighter, when he can be serious.

I think this is the big problem with Bullseye. No matter how good he is, he is out match by anyone who has any real powers.

[pariah-1972]

I think Osbourne should have sent the whole Dark Avengers Bullseye is no match for Deadpool's healing factor.

[killerbass]

On an entirely different note, I think that Paco Medina's a great artists for Deadpool. Whenever I think of the character, I either think of either Paco Medina or Carlo Barbieri's pencils. They just suit the character's essence perfectly.

See, and I think of Walter McDaniel as perfect for Deadpool.

But then again, I still see John Romita Sr. when I close my eyes and picture Spider-Man in my head.

--Tom

[NeoSapien]

I think Osbourne should have sent the whole Dark Avengers Bullseye is no match for Deadpool's healing factor.

Nah, that would be massive overkill. But Venom would be just right for dealing with Deadpool. Powerful enough to beat him and very likely to kill him via digestion by symbiote. :eek: The only problem would be keeping Venom from running amok and eating innocent bystanders... not that innocent bystanders are much safer from Bullseye, of course.

[coldstar]

I get what you are saying but it's nowhere near as bad as his Origins.

:frown: Are people upset with all of the Wolverine Origins run or just the 5-issue deadpool fight? The latter I can definitely agree with disliking (as well as most of the recent fighting over the sword), but as a whole, I've liked Way's origins series.

Nah, that would be massive overkill. But Venom would be just right for dealing with Deadpool. Powerful enough to beat him and very likely to kill him via digestion by symbiote. The only problem would be keeping Venom from running amok and eating innocent bystanders... not that innocent bystanders are much safer from Bullseye, of course.

Hmm... that could be interesting. On the one hand, yeah, being eaten and digested is probably one of the few ways to finish Deadpool for good. On the other hand, the last time Deadpool fought venom symbionts, they tried to bond with him. So... huh. Not sure if Mac would come out of this alive, dead, or depowered. But Deadpool probably wouldn't be happy either way. That said, you're probably right; the odds of us seeing this fight is low at best. It's one thing to have to explain away the deaths of innocents from bullets, arrows, and pointy objects (particularly when a wanted mercenary was seen fighting in the area) and another to explain why your "Spider-man" Avenger just morphed into a giant monster and started swallowing children in pieces. :smile:

[pariah-1972]

:frown: Are people upset with all of the Wolverine Origins run or just the 5-issue deadpool fight? The latter I can definitely agree with disliking (as well as most of the recent fighting over the sword), but as a whole, I've liked Way's origins series.



I can say without a doubt it's the Worst Wolverine series ever and it takes a lot for me to dump a Wolvie comic.

Worse than Jeph Loebs which was just a "wtf"

I didn't even realize anyone actually would admit to liking it.

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

Worse than Jeph Loebs which was just a "wtf"


Sorry, but I've got to correct you there, NOTHING is worse than Jeph Loeb's Wolverine...except maybe Jeph Loeb's Hulk, Jeph Loeb's Ultimates volume 3 and Jeph Loeb's Ultimatum...

[Bloodloss]

I didn't mind it too much though I'm new to Deadpool. If those are generally considered to be the worst Deadpool issues, which ones are generally considered around these parts to be the best? Also, random question: what series/issue is Deadpool's famous Shoryuken uppercut on Kitty to get Wolverine to fight him in? Thanks...

[pariah-1972]

Sorry, but I've got to correct you there, NOTHING is worse than Jeph Loeb's Wolverine...except maybe Jeph Loeb's Hulk, Jeph Loeb's Ultimates volume 3 and Jeph Loeb's Ultimatum...Jeph Loebs is just a waning memory Origins has been around for like two or three years and it's still not going anywhere.
:tongue:

[pariah-1972]

I didn't mind it too much though I'm new to Deadpool. If those are generally considered to be the worst Deadpool issues, which ones are generally considered around these parts to be the best? Also, random question: what series/issue is Deadpool's famous Shoryuken uppercut on Kitty to get Wolverine to fight him in? Thanks...Agent X by Gail Simone the whole Joe Kelly run too.


It's hard to go wrong with the 'Pool in my opinion tho Christopher Priests was bizzare and had a lot of weird in jokes that most people wouldn't get.

Stay away from his first Mini Series the Circle Chase it's a bit of a mess and it was before Deadpool was changed into his funnier version.

[killerbass]

I didn't mind it too much though I'm new to Deadpool. If those are generally considered to be the worst Deadpool issues, which ones are generally considered around these parts to be the best? Also, random question: what series/issue is Deadpool's famous Shoryuken uppercut on Kitty to get Wolverine to fight him in? Thanks...

That would be Deadpool #27....

http://www.4thletter.net/ruined/dpshoryuken.jpg

Good times!
Tom

[pariah-1972]

OMG i haven't seen that one in forever (laughs his head off)

[Mr. Sam]

This was the best in this series so far for me. The funniest too, at least for me. Great, great issue. Love the cover for the next one.

[evisc]

The current Deadpool series has been hit and miss. This issue was definitely a hit though. One of my top issues from any of the Deadpool series.

[Whitster]

Anyone else think a DP/ Marvel Boy fight could be quite entertaining.

[Iron-boy]

Sorry to hijack the thread but... Does anyone have a copy of New Mutants #98? If yes, how is it? Is it worth getting? I'm thinking of getting some backstories of Deadpool's beginning, but there's going to be a reprint of #98 in the upcoming ongoing Merc With a Mouth. However, how many pages will it be?

Thanks.

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

Sorry to hijack the thread but... Does anyone have a copy of New Mutants #98? If yes, how is it? Is it worth getting? I'm thinking of getting some backstories of Deadpool's beginning, but there's going to be a reprint of #98 in the upcoming ongoing Merc With a Mouth. However, how many pages will it be?

Thanks.

It's worth getting if you're a serious Deadpool fan!:biggrin:

As for Merc With A Mouth, I believe the first issue is 48 pages, 22 new and 22 reprint.

[Sean Whitmore]

Sorry to hijack the thread but... Does anyone have a copy of New Mutants #98? If yes, how is it? Is it worth getting? I'm thinking of getting some backstories of Deadpool's beginning, but there's going to be a reprint of #98 in the upcoming ongoing Merc With a Mouth. However, how many pages will it be?

They're reprinting that issue again so soon? Weird.

Anyway, it was fine for its time. Bear in mind, though, that the Deadpool of those days bears little resemblance to the cartoon character of today.


SEAN

[Fatguy]

That would be Deadpool #27....

http://www.4thletter.net/ruined/dpshoryuken.jpg

Good times!
Tom

LOL that's amazing.

[Brother Justin Crowe]

They're reprinting that issue again so soon? Weird.

Anyway, it was fine for its time. Bear in mind, though, that the Deadpool of those days bears little resemblance to the cartoon character of today.


SEAN

It's since been replaced with Deadpool (Joe Kelly series) #4.

[Will.S]

I can't agree with that, his pacing on the Thunderbolts crossover was BAD.

Those were the only two DP issues of his I've read, and they were enough.
I think the book might have suffered while doing the crossover with the Thunderbolts stuff.

I would recommend checking out the Secret Invasion/Dark Reign labeled books and avoid the Deadpool/New T-Bolts crossover for now since that looks to be collected separately from both titles similar to the Wolverine Origins/X-Men Legacy crossover.

[mikekerr3]

No-Prize response: It's safe to say that the biggest 'loose cannon' on the Avengers is Bulls/Hawkeye--if Norman sics him against a threat like Deadpool, it's more likely to keep his focus, as he's less likely to go out murdering common criminals/innocents.

That makes sense keeping Bullseye busy or killling Bullseye off ( a realisticaly likely result), but it does nothing to solve Norman's Deadpool problem which Norman just made much bigger.

Now for wade its not just a matter of money he's been "besmirched":biggrin:

Chopping off his head might have irritated him but he seems pretty pissed off now.

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

That makes sense keeping Bullseye busy or killling Bullseye off ( a realisticaly likely result), but it does nothing to solve Norman's Deadpool problem which Norman just made much bigger.

Now for wade its not just a matter of money he's been "besmirched":biggrin:

Chopping off his head might have irritated him but he seems pretty pissed off now.

Norman's gonna get his @$$ kicked!:biggrin:

[Kevin Vetter]

I empathize, especially as a guy who found Deadpool via C&D. But his original solo fleshes this out a little bit, like the guy above me said, he is a killer.

I didn't let it ruin the issue for me. He's better as a character if he does the occasional rotten deed, imo.

He did have his moments in C&D. In the spiderman issue he was told not to harm any civilian and was being watched by cable the whole time and the first thing he does is yank peter parker out of a car and throw him off a bridge. He didn't die of course but deadpool didn't know he was spiderman and thought he was just some guy. He killed that terrorist guy who certainly wasn't an innocent but he couldn't do anyone any harm any more and the reason deadpool gave for why he killed him was because he felt like it and then you have him kidnapping a mother and her two little kids in the middle of the night from a truck stop then tying them up and leaving them in the middle of the road so he could free taskmaster.

This issue was nothing and was more like the deadpool of old. If you want to see the disturbing side of him try to read issue #14 of his first solo series where he puts weasel and blind al in "the box".

[jackolover]

This issue was nothing and was more like the deadpool of old. If you want to see the disturbing side of him try to read issue #14 of his first solo series where he puts weasel and blind al in "the box".

Well, I for one didn't mind "disturbing". That's what made the book such a good read, because it kept me on the edge of my seat. Well done Daniel Way.

[Sean Whitmore]

It's weird to me that we've reached the point where it even raises an eyebrow when Deadpool the mass murderer kills someone.


SEAN

[pariah-1972]

It's weird to me that we've reached the point where it even raises an eyebrow when Deadpool the mass murderer kills someone.


SEANWell he has been portrayed as a good guy for so long it is kind of shocking.

[Ragnorok64]

As of late though, as in near the end of Cable & Deadpool, wasn't he actually trying to do good stuff and at least attempt o be heroic? Killing the Pizza guy seems to be a step back with no real explanation.

[pariah-1972]

As of late though, as in near the end of Cable & Deadpool, wasn't he actually trying to do good stuff and at least attempt o be heroic? Killing the Pizza guy seems to be a step back with no real explanation.Well he's been trying to be a good guy way before even that.

[Sean Whitmore]

As of late though, as in near the end of Cable & Deadpool, wasn't he actually trying to do good stuff and at least attempt o be heroic? Killing the Pizza guy seems to be a step back with no real explanation.

There's an explanation. Deadpool is a psychopath who's never going to be as good as he wishes he were. That's been the prevailing take on the character for a while.


SEAN

[Ragnorok64]

I see, I simply haven't been reading the character long enough to have a full grasp on that.

[pariah-1972]

There's an explanation. Deadpool is a psychopath who's never going to be as good as he wishes he were. That's been the prevailing take on the character for a while.


SEANNot to mention that he always needs someone to guide him to the good path.

[Sean Whitmore]

I see, I simply haven't been reading the character long enough to have a full grasp on that.

I mean, there's room for debate on the matter, surely, but I get the feeling some Deadpool fans think he should be a good guy simply because he wants to be one.


SEAN

[Hamdinger]

I think the current Deadpool needs one hell of a lot higher body count! After all HAMMER is populated Norman Osbourne's wannabe Nazi scum and should be treated like that by good old Wade Wilson. Rivers of blood are needed I says! :biggrin:

[coldstar]

I mean, there's room for debate on the matter, surely, but I get the feeling some Deadpool fans think he should be a good guy simply because he wants to be one.


SEAN

Can't entirely agree. While I wasn't shocked to see him killing people, I was somewhat disappointed to see this happening without any explanation. At the end of Cable & Deadpool, he'd not reformed (of course), but he was still interested in trying to do good. He agreed to help Irene largely because he thought it was what Cable would've wanted--the right thing to do. He did things he wouldn't normally (bringing back T-ray, for one) because he wanted to help people, or at least clean up his own messes for a change. For awhile up to and including the end of C&D, he had this kind of "what the hell, let's do good" attitude going. While it's not entirely surprising, I'm less than happy to have them ignore all the character development in that series without so much as a two-line explanation for his change of heart. And yeah, we can speculate out-of-story as to why it does/doesn't make sense... but I'm just annoyed they're completely ignoring such well-written development just so they can write about the Deadpool version they want to. It wouldn't have taken much effort... :frown:

[Ragnorok64]

Can't entirely agree. While I wasn't shocked to see him killing people, I was somewhat disappointed to see this happening without any explanation. At the end of Cable & Deadpool, he'd not reformed (of course), but he was still interested in trying to do good. He agreed to help Irene largely because he thought it was what Cable would've wanted--the right thing to do. He did things he wouldn't normally (bringing back T-ray, for one) because he wanted to help people, or at least clean up his own messes for a change. For awhile up to and including the end of C&D, he had this kind of "what the hell, let's do good" attitude going. While it's not entirely surprising, I'm less than happy to have them ignore all the character development in that series without so much as a two-line explanation for his change of heart. And yeah, we can speculate out-of-story as to why it does/doesn't make sense... but I'm just annoyed they're completely ignoring such well-written development just so they can write about the Deadpool version they want to. It wouldn't have taken much effort... :frown:
Good to know I'm not the only one thinking exactly that.

[Dizzy D]

There's an explanation. Deadpool is a psychopath who's never going to be as good as he wishes he were. That's been the prevailing take on the character for a while.


SEAN

That's always been my favourite take on him: he's trying to be better than he is and certainly has lines he won't cross, but he can shoot somebody without even blinking and need a few moments before it dawns on him that that might have been wrong, if it ever does. Not a complete monster like Sabretooth or Bullseye, but morality is rather alien to him. He understands it, but he has to consciously work at it.

And that fascinates me and always brings me back to Deadpool, moreso than the humor which can be hit and miss. There have been more stories with villains trying to be heroes, but usually they either turned completely with a guilty conscience and the occassional relapse, but their head still straight or you got the hardcase anti-hero, who completely missed what being a hero is all about and just focuses his or her violence on new targets.

[arp2008]

Deadpool killing an innocent man for doing his job is quite sickenning. Its one of the many reasons this character is most unappealing.

[mikekerr3]

Deadpool killing an innocent man for doing his job is quite sickenning. Its one of the many reasons this character is most unappealing.

What innocent man did he kill for doing his job in this issue?:confused:

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

Can't entirely agree. While I wasn't shocked to see him killing people, I was somewhat disappointed to see this happening without any explanation. At the end of Cable & Deadpool, he'd not reformed (of course), but he was still interested in trying to do good. He agreed to help Irene largely because he thought it was what Cable would've wanted--the right thing to do. He did things he wouldn't normally (bringing back T-ray, for one) because he wanted to help people, or at least clean up his own messes for a change. For awhile up to and including the end of C&D, he had this kind of "what the hell, let's do good" attitude going. While it's not entirely surprising, I'm less than happy to have them ignore all the character development in that series without so much as a two-line explanation for his change of heart. And yeah, we can speculate out-of-story as to why it does/doesn't make sense... but I'm just annoyed they're completely ignoring such well-written development just so they can write about the Deadpool version they want to. It wouldn't have taken much effort... :frown:
But it's been established that Norman Osborn screwed him out of a lot of a money, he's now broke and has H.A.M.M.E.R. and Osborn gunning for him so he needs to make some cash pronto!
So... what's a highly skilled mercenary gonna do?:confused: :biggrin:

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

What innocent man did he kill for doing his job in this issue?:confused:

Exactly...

[coldstar]

But it's been established that Norman Osborn screwed him out of a lot of a money, he's now broke and has H.A.M.M.E.R. and Osborn gunning for him so he needs to make some cash pronto!
So... what's a highly skilled mercenary gonna do?:confused: :biggrin:

:smile: Point taken, but he had alternatives. Get hired for something not a straight up hit, contract out to some military forces, rob a bank... Whatever happened to him working for Agency X anyways?

As I said, I'm not really upset that he's killing people--just that he seems to have given up completely on his "try to do some good" idea with no explanation why. Of course, he's also gained a second voice in his head... continuity's not the biggest part of this series. Dizzy D put it really nicely --he tries to be moral, but isn't always quite so clear on what that means. It doesn't come instinctively to him at all. It's just that since this new run started, it seems like they completely ignored the whole "trying" part that had been very nicely developed previously. And without that aspect of the story, Deadpool's funny, but lacks character depth completely--he's an amusing caricature. Still fun to read, but not as interesting.

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

:smile: Point taken, but he had alternatives. Get hired for something not a straight up hit, contract out to some military forces, rob a bank... Whatever happened to him working for Agency X anyways?

As I said, I'm not really upset that he's killing people--just that he seems to have given up completely on his "try to do some good" idea with no explanation why. Of course, he's also gained a second voice in his head... continuity's not the biggest part of this series. Dizzy D put it really nicely --he tries to be moral, but isn't always quite so clear on what that means. It doesn't come instinctively to him at all. It's just that since this new run started, it seems like they completely ignored the whole "trying" part that had been very nicely developed previously. And without that aspect of the story, Deadpool's funny, but lacks character depth completely--he's an amusing caricature. Still fun to read, but not as interesting.

Fair enough, coldstar, I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree on this particular issue. You see, for me anyway, Deadpool has always been flawed; he's always strived to be a better person, be a hero and yet he never quite gets there. He tries to be a better man but then somebody pees him off and he's straight back into his old ways of kill first, ask questions later.
For me, that's part of his charm. He's a lovable rogue...:biggrin:

[psycwave]

A new interview with Way talking about Deadpool V. Bullseye, Black Widow, and more (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=271340)

[Venom Melendez]

I thought it was pretty good; and I haven't liked most of Way's work so far. Not sure why Osborn thought Bullseye would be a good matchup... as has been shown, there are few ways to get around healing factors, and being filled with bullets/arrows/playing cards isn't really one of them. Seriously, Daken would've done better. Still, a good read.

Bullseye has fought Wade before and held his own. Personally, i would have sent Both Daken and Bullseye. Of course Daken can't stand Wade.