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Yearning4Yorick
05-06-2009, 03:13 PM
So the Wolverine movie has come out and Wolverine is all over the place along with Deadpool. Gambit is in Legacyand even Maverick/Agent Zero showed up but you know who is missing? Sabertooth. Why? Is there such little interest in him now that they didn't figure anyone would care? Why do you think in this advertising frenzy there is no Sabertooth? Don't tell me it's because he is dead, death never stopped anyone from showing up in comics.

worstblogever
05-06-2009, 03:14 PM
So the Wolverine movie has come out and Wolverine is all over the place along with Deadpool. Gambit is in Legacyand even Maverick/Agent Zero showed up but you know who is missing? Sabertooth. Why? Is there such little interest in him now that they didn't figure anyone would care? Why do you think in this advertising frenzy there is no Sabertooth? Don't tell me it's because he is dead, death never stopped anyone from showing up in comics.

He just had an X-Men: Origins- Sabretooth comic like a month ago.

Yearning4Yorick
05-06-2009, 03:28 PM
He just had an X-Men: Origins- Sabretooth comic like a month ago.

He is Wolverine's arch-enemy yet all he got was a worthless one-shot a month before the movie? Deadpool got an additional ongoing on top of another ongoing and a miniseries. Clearly something is up. I know they wanna make a movie with Hot man hunk Reynolds so that's why we get Deqdpool push but not Sabes the main villain in Logan's life? Why?

worstblogever
05-06-2009, 03:33 PM
He is Wolverine's arch-enemy yet all he got was a worthless one-shot a month before the movie? Deadpool got an additional ongoing on top of another ongoing and a miniseries. Clearly something is up. I know they wanna make a movie with Hot man hunk Reynolds so that's why we get Deqdpool push but not Sabes the main villain in Logan's life? Why?

Because Sabretooth is dead. Harder to market a dead guy.

Yearning4Yorick
05-06-2009, 03:34 PM
Because Sabretooth is dead. Harder to market a dead guy.
Did you even read my first post? Weak sauce.

Joe Franklin
05-06-2009, 03:35 PM
Beats me?:confused:

Outside of Wolverine, Sabretooth is Marvel's most marketable mutant character.

He could carry his own ongoing series, just like Wolverine does.:cool:

worstblogever
05-06-2009, 03:37 PM
Did you even read my first post? Weak sauce.

Take it up with Jeph Loeb.

Canemacar
05-06-2009, 03:39 PM
So the Wolverine movie has come out and Wolverine is all over the place along with Deadpool. Gambit is in Legacyand even Maverick/Agent Zero showed up but you know who is missing? Sabertooth. Why? Is there such little interest in him now that they didn't figure anyone would care? Why do you think in this advertising frenzy there is no Sabertooth? Don't tell me it's because he is dead, death never stopped anyone from showing up in comics.

Honestly, aside from wolvie and deadpool, everyone in that movie has been pretty much ignored. Gambit's a background character, sabertooth's dead, Zero got his but kicked, the rest of team X is still dead, etc.

Fatguy
05-06-2009, 03:41 PM
Outside of Wolverine, Sabretooth is Marvel's most marketable mutant character.

He could carry his own ongoing series, just like Wolverine does.:cool:

LOL I actually REALLY like Sabertooth, but.....what planet are you living on?

shades of eternity
05-06-2009, 03:46 PM
yeah

don't get me wrong, I would love to see mary shell overdrive done with liev's sabertooth (ironically the kinder, gentler sabertooth makes it work better), but I got a feeling it might be a while before they do it

Magneto's next on the block after Wolvie for a reason.

Azure
05-06-2009, 03:49 PM
Beats me?:confused:

Outside of Wolverine, Sabretooth is Marvel's most marketable mutant character.

He could carry his own ongoing series, just like Wolverine does.:cool:

He's more marketable than Cyclops? But Cyclops has EXPLOSIVE EYE POWERS ARGGHHHHH AWESOME! Sabretooth appeared in X-Force a few issues ago, I believe. Also, he is probably Romulus.

jester1436
05-06-2009, 03:52 PM
Love for Sabretooth is necrophilia, which is disgusting and explains a lot about certain people.

DaUltimateSheild
05-06-2009, 03:57 PM
Keep in mind Sabertooth is a Raping murdering animal who has NO redeeming qualities as a human being....

kinda hard to give a guy like that a ongoing

darknessatnoon
05-06-2009, 03:58 PM
Keep in mind Sabertooth is a Raping murdering animal who has very littel reddemign qualites as a human being....

kinda hard to give a guy like that a ongoing

Rachel Grey has a similar problem.

Joe Franklin
05-06-2009, 04:00 PM
Keep in mind Sabertooth is a Raping murdering animal who has very littel reddemign qualites as a human being....

kinda hard to give a guy like that a ongoing

He's no worse then the Punisher, and he has a few ongoings.

jarrod
05-06-2009, 04:02 PM
Rachel Grey has a similar problem.
They're from the same family, it must be genetic.

DaUltimateSheild
05-06-2009, 04:02 PM
He's no worse then the Punisher, and he has a few ongoings.

Dose the Punisher Rape women?

Joe Franklin
05-06-2009, 04:03 PM
Dose the Punisher Rape women?

Nope, he only tortures them.

Azure
05-06-2009, 04:06 PM
It's fair to say that the Punisher is a ludicrous character with barely anything going for him apart from GUNZ POW POW POW.

DaUltimateSheild
05-06-2009, 04:07 PM
Nope, he only tortures them.

Do they deserve it?

Joe Franklin
05-06-2009, 04:16 PM
Do they deserve it?

Only the waterboarding.:biggrin:

AcesX1X
05-06-2009, 04:17 PM
i just really can't see why marvel would even care about a sabretooth series, honestly. they went to A LOT of trouble to kill him remember?

he is the inferior between him and wolverine. why would you want to market that?

it just seems a little redundant to me.

PsylockeSpears
05-06-2009, 04:21 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d152/PsylockeSpears/X-Men/Psylocke/normal_001.jpg


I will NEVER forget that issue,Bastard.

Pixie_Solanas
05-06-2009, 04:23 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d152/PsylockeSpears/X-Men/Psylocke/normal_001.jpg


I will NEVER forget that issue,Bastard.

Bastard? I thought it was great. Brutal Joe Mad-esque art aside...

PsylockeSpears
05-06-2009, 04:26 PM
Bastard? I thought it was great. Brutal Joe Mad-esque art aside...

LOL,Yeah great but he seriously gutted Psylocke no-end.I remeber being scarred as a kid by the books last page

Fatguy
05-06-2009, 04:26 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d152/PsylockeSpears/X-Men/Psylocke/normal_001.jpg


I will NEVER forget that issue,Bastard.

That's an extremely ugly cover.

Pixie_Solanas
05-06-2009, 04:27 PM
That's an extremely ugly cover.

That cover sums up the 1990s x-men for me. Just bloated and gut-wrenching.

Azure
05-06-2009, 04:28 PM
I will NEVER forget that issue,Bastard.

I agree! Poor Boom Boom.

Was this the time when Boom Boom accidentally set Sabretooth on Psylocke? I've lost track.

PsylockeSpears
05-06-2009, 04:30 PM
I agree! Poor Boom Boom.

Was this the time when Boom Boom accidentally set Sabretooth on Psylocke? I've lost track.

Yep It is,Boom Boom looked like i felt haha.
Oh and yeah the cover was kinda ill concieved,but i DID like the Joe Mad run,his sabre was cool.

Push You Down
05-06-2009, 04:46 PM
He's no worse then the Punisher, and he has a few ongoings.


...........Seriously?


WTF.

ReturnOfTheComeback
05-06-2009, 04:48 PM
The cover is beautiful . Honestly , what is wrong with you people?!

Shaid O Gray
05-06-2009, 05:02 PM
Not everyone was in love with those over-blown, amerimangafied, cartoony X-Men of the 90's. It was so overdone, even the most dramatic moments (like in this issue) just looked funny to me. And did literally everyone's hair have to look like big blades of grass?? Really?

Oh and suggesting the Punisher is no better than Sabretooth is missing so many points by so many miles... don't get me started.

And I'm not even a Punisher fan.

worstblogever
05-06-2009, 05:03 PM
The big difference is... the Punisher kills criminals out of a sense of vengeance for his dead family.

Sabretooth kills indiscriminately for pure sadistic pleasure.


Therein lies all the difference in the world.

pariah-1972
05-06-2009, 05:12 PM
Sabretooth is teh lame and is overexposed.
Thank god Jeph Loeb killed him.

Weapon Z
05-06-2009, 05:26 PM
Beats me?:confused:

Outside of Wolverine, Sabretooth is Marvel's most marketable mutant character.

He could carry his own ongoing series, just like Wolverine does.:cool:

Yeah, who's that Cyclops guy anyway?

Nyssane
05-06-2009, 05:29 PM
Yeah, who's that Cyclops guy anyway?

I'd say Storm is more marketable than Cyclops or Sabretooth.

Joe Franklin
05-06-2009, 08:00 PM
The big difference is... the Punisher kills criminals out of a sense of vengeance for his dead family.

Sabretooth kills indiscriminately for pure sadistic pleasure.


Therein lies all the difference in the world.

Punisher gets plenty of pleasure in torturing and killing people. Read the Garth Ennis stuff.

rwsmith
05-06-2009, 09:19 PM
Only bad people, though. Therein lies the difference (or, as worstblogger so aptly put it, "all the difference in the world").

Joe Franklin
05-06-2009, 09:27 PM
Only bad people, though. Therein lies the difference (or, as worstblogger so aptly put it, "all the difference in the world").

So, murder and torture is ok is the person is perceived to be a "bad guy"?

Just asking?

Yearning4Yorick
05-06-2009, 10:42 PM
Do you guys think that the reason Sabertooth isn't getting the exposure is that there just isn't many stories you can tell with the character besides the same ole fight with Wolverine? I mean his little one-shot was basically a Wolverine story. Is Sabertooth just not interesting unless Wolverine is there? Look at Exiles, they had to basically turn him into a 616 Wolverine to make him a viable character.

Joe Franklin
05-06-2009, 10:50 PM
Do you guys think that the reason Sabertooth isn't getting the exposure is that there just isn't many stories you can tell with the character besides the same ole fight with Wolverine? I mean his little one-shot was basically a Wolverine story. Is Sabertooth just not interesting unless Wolverine is there? Look at Exiles, they had to basically turn him into a 616 Wolverine to make him a viable character.

The Sabretooth Death Hunt mini series is what made Sabretooth may favorite Marvel mutant. My fave was Wolverine until Death Hunt came out.

Here is some info on Death Hunt. http://www.comics-db.com/Marvel_Comics/S/Sabretooth/Death_Hunt/

DaUltimateSheild
05-06-2009, 10:50 PM
Well sabretooth Deathhunt and the open season mini were good and interesting

with the right writer and a Max title u probably could have a sabertooth ongoing

from the movie id like to see a story about creed tearing the shit out of Vietnam

Bronze Badger
05-06-2009, 10:53 PM
http://images.forbiddenplanet.com/image/detail/17977630.jpg

Joe Franklin
05-06-2009, 11:05 PM
With the right writer and a Max title u probably could have a Sabertooth ongoing

from the movie id like to see a story about creed tearing the shit out of Vietnam

I agree. Larry Hamma would be a great choice for a Sabretooth MAX Nam mini.

DaUltimateSheild
05-06-2009, 11:13 PM
I agree. Larry Hamma would be a great choice for a Sabretooth MAX Nam mini.

Thats a little easy isn't it?:tongue:

I think Jason Aaron would be good too

Joe Franklin
05-06-2009, 11:16 PM
Thats a little easy isn't it?:tongue:

I think Jason Aaron would be good too

Again, I agree. Andy Diggle would be great as well.:cool:

DaUltimateSheild
05-06-2009, 11:24 PM
Again, I agree. Andy Diggle would be great as well.:cool:

hmm Maybe, i haven't read any thing of his side for the thunderbolts

jester1436
05-06-2009, 11:42 PM
http://images.forbiddenplanet.com/image/detail/17977630.jpg

He really needs to decide if he's going to spit or swallow.

Bats
05-06-2009, 11:52 PM
Sabretooth is my favorite Marvel character, and he needs to be back. If not in his own series or mini, then at least on X-Force. He would kick ass there.

I hate what Loeb did to him, especially because it just didn't make any sense (and the fact that I was liking him in Rogue's team). Victor laying down...come on. What, Wildchild is now Wolverine's arch enemy. Romulus better have Victor captured or something, and sent a clone instead...it would be cool to see Victor (after being rescued by Wolverine) and Logan take down Romulus...crossing fingers

If on his own, a MAX series would be amazing. Bad or good, or somewhere in between, with the right writer I think he could shine.

I think he was by far the best thing of the new movie. Liev really nailed it, and people may whine that he 'helped' Logan in the final fight, but to me, that's the perfect metaphor for his relationship with Wolverine. Nobody kills Logam but Sabretooth.

BTW, just met Mark Texeira here in Puerto Rico and he drew me an awesome Sabretooth sketch. Death Hunt was great.

Sean Whitmore
05-07-2009, 12:16 AM
So, murder and torture is ok is the person is perceived to be a "bad guy"?

Just asking?

Yes.

That's why it says "Superhero" on the back of the Wolverine trading cards and "Supervillain" on the back of the Sabretooth ones.


SEAN

Joe Franklin
05-07-2009, 12:40 AM
Sabretooth is my favorite Marvel character, and he needs to be back. If not in his own series or mini, then at least on X-Force. He would kick ass there.


Quoted for the truth.:cool:

DaUltimateSheild
05-07-2009, 12:45 AM
If they bring him back i dont want it just for the sake of bring him back [Like Colossus]

i want it to be done...."cleverly"

Karthak
05-07-2009, 01:14 AM
He's no worse then the Punisher, and he has a few ongoings.

OBJECTION!!!

Justin K.
05-07-2009, 01:21 AM
Because Sabretooth is dead. Harder to market a dead guy.

I don't know, I mean Jean Grey was pretty big in the last 2 X-men movies
for being dead in the comics, but then again, she can come back anytime.

Uncle Nobs
05-07-2009, 01:22 AM
Exactly how much influence do you really want that butthole movie to have on the world?

Justin K.
05-07-2009, 01:49 AM
If not in his own series or mini, then at least on X-Force. He would kick ass there.

Don't worry, he wasn't excluded
He appeared in X-Force...

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/SabertoothShot.jpg

Pixie_Solanas
05-07-2009, 10:06 AM
Don't worry, he wasn't excluded
He appeared in X-Force...

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/SabertoothShot.jpg

Yes, and in his PROPER costume. He was also in a recent issue of Legacy (albeit as a Danger-created sim).

theardri
05-07-2009, 10:51 AM
So the Wolverine movie has come out and Wolverine is all over the place along with Deadpool. Gambit is in Legacyand even Maverick/Agent Zero showed up but you know who is missing? Sabertooth. Why? Is there such little interest in him now that they didn't figure anyone would care? Why do you think in this advertising frenzy there is no Sabertooth? Don't tell me it's because he is dead, death never stopped anyone from showing up in comics.

Well..... he was in Xforce twice... oh wait those were clones ;)

Yearning4Yorick
05-07-2009, 10:54 AM
Exactly how much influence do you really want that butthole movie to have on the world?

It's not so much about the influence I want the movie to have but about the character. To me it would seem like a ripe marketing idea to include some decent Sabertooth in this month's comics, has the character run so dry and one note that we can't come up a decent story to tell during the month of the movie he's the #1 villain in?

Justin K.
05-07-2009, 10:56 AM
Well..... he was in Xforce twice... oh wait those were clones ;)

So is X-23 and she's doing well for herself.

Waterlily
05-07-2009, 11:14 AM
Love for Sabretooth is necrophilia, which is disgusting and explains a lot about certain people.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3625/3510077191_1e2256b396.jpg
from http://www.kurtstallaert.com/

I like reading about Sabretooth because he's such a horrorific character. We'll see cannon fodder clones and flashbacks via Origins (maybe), but outside that it doesn't look like Marvel wants to push the character. With the exception of someone, my choice would be Jason Aaron, wanting to write him and having an interesting story to tell with him in it he's probably better off dead.

Justin K.
05-07-2009, 01:30 PM
Wouldn't it be cool and ironic if Selene and Eli Bard revived his dead corpse?
The irony being he'd be on the same team with Caliban.

pharoahe22
05-07-2009, 01:58 PM
I'd buy a solo title featuring AoA Sabretooth. Actually I might buy a solo featuring regular Sabes too. But I will say that there is a large large difference between the Punisher and Sabretooth. The Punisher's need for vengeance might have made him batshit crazy, but he does have a line he won't cross...innocents and cops, etc. The Punisher won't kill. He is in some ways trying to do good. Sabretooth will kill whoever whenever...A lot of times just for the hell of it.

Fatguy
05-07-2009, 02:02 PM
Sabretooth is teh lame and is overexposed.
Thank god Jeph Loeb killed him.

I question whether or not you know what "overexposed" means.

Pixie_Solanas
05-07-2009, 02:11 PM
The only thing good about AoA Sabretooth was the unexplored and un-probed fertile storyline dealing with the uber-masochism between Vic, steel dogchain and Wild Child.

theardri
05-07-2009, 02:51 PM
So is X-23 and she's doing well for herself.

Technically She's not really a clone, she is a "true daughter" because a clone is an EXACT copy of the origional. While she is not. But that is nit picking.

I did NOT like the way the Tooth went out. It was Out of Character and also a crappy story.

Now given this is a mutant, and a Marvel Character not named Ben Parker... he's coming back at somepoint or other.

Uncle Nobs
05-07-2009, 10:41 PM
I question whether or not you know what "overexposed" means.
I can personally attest to seeing his hairy nipples on more than one occasion.

biscuit
05-07-2009, 11:04 PM
I think the problem with Sabertooth is he is really hard to portray in a film. You need a guy that is really big and it is hard to find someone that big that can actually act. His size is important because that's what he has over Wolverine. Wolv has the adamantium but Saber has the size. When he doesn't Creed hardly even looks like threat to him like we saw at the end of the Wolverine movie.

As far as the comics go he is going to have a role in X-men forever it looks like. I don't want him brought back to life. If your going to kill someone off do it for a reason.

Sean Whitmore
05-07-2009, 11:07 PM
I think the problem with Sabertooth is he is really hard to portray in a film.

I think Liev did a good job. He was a bright spot in an otherwise dull movie.


SEAN

biscuit
05-07-2009, 11:11 PM
I think Liev did a good job. He was a bright spot in an otherwise dull movie.


SEAN

I think he did a good job too, but like I said I think it is important for the character to have size so he looks like a threat to logan. Once Wolverine had the operation he just looked totally inferior.

DaUltimateSheild
05-07-2009, 11:16 PM
I think he did a good job too, but like I said I think it is important for the character to have size so he looks like a threat to logan. Once Wolverine had the operation he just looked totally inferior.

that was the point

Raptor
05-07-2009, 11:58 PM
So, murder and torture is ok is the person is perceived to be a "bad guy"?

Just asking?

I'd do it if I thought I could get away with it.

Certainly better than doing it to random people.

Fatguy
05-08-2009, 12:35 AM
I can personally attest to seeing his hairy nipples on more than one occasion.

From Claremont's upcoming X-Men Forever, a first look at Sabertooth:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8484/hairynipple.jpg

Justin K.
05-08-2009, 12:47 AM
From Claremont's upcoming X-Men Forever, a first look at Sabertooth:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8484/hairynipple.jpg

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/Vomit.gif

Majinoaw
05-08-2009, 07:41 AM
Who remembers when Sabes was defeated by Spiderman, after he pulled webbing from his face and riped his skin. That's all it took to beat sabes back in the day.

Sean Whitmore
05-08-2009, 07:46 AM
Who remembers when Sabes was defeated by Spiderman, after he pulled webbing from his face and riped his skin. That's all it took to beat sabes back in the day.

Yeah, Vic wailed like a bitch when that web came off.

And he was in the hospital afterwards for several issues. He was still wearing bandages on his face when he fought Black Cat a few months later.


SEAN

Majinoaw
05-08-2009, 07:53 AM
Who remembers when a Liefeld sized Caliban gave Sabretooth a bearhug and put him out of commission for months.

ThisMortalSoil
05-08-2009, 10:08 AM
He'll be back someday. I really liked the one-shot, mostly because of Dan Panosian's art. He filled in a few pages of a recent Ultimate X-Men issue and his Sabretooth really stood out. I hope he does Victor and Logan again :evilsmile:

Grimlock
05-10-2009, 03:23 AM
im hoping with the push from the new movie they might give him a big revile. one thing that gets me is that when he was in the marauders he wasnt able to be cloned but all of a sudden in x-force there are several clones. this makes me think that the one that died is a clone and romulus might be the real sabretooth.

worstblogever
05-10-2009, 03:27 AM
Who remembers when a Liefeld sized Caliban gave Sabretooth a bearhug and put him out of commission for months.

Broken spine. Even Bullseye and Jack Flag seem to be able to shake those off, at this point in Marvel.

joku2
05-10-2009, 04:05 AM
ive always liked Sabretooth but he really is a no Good SOB and im glad that Logan killed him but at the same time someone or something has got to take the place of Sabretooth