View Full Version : War of Kings #3 *Spoilers*
CaptainCanada
05-06-2009, 01:26 PM
Another good issue, though between the lengthy preview with words and earlier unlettered pages, I felt like I'd seen quite a bit of it for a middle-chapter.
The really heavily-telegraphed about-face from Gladiator managed to nevertheless be really cool, and even gave us the second iteration of the Smasher joke in this series. I've always felt there was a lot of great character stuff you could do with Gladiator's character concept, and this current run of stories has validated that.
I still dislike Rachel going back to the Hound look, but whatever; the scene with her and Rocket was cute.
The Inhumans are all dicks, apart from Crystal.
Daithi
05-06-2009, 01:48 PM
Did Rachel actually speak? Agreed with the hound stuff. The Phoenix effect is perfect for space.
worstblogever
05-06-2009, 01:51 PM
The Rachel/Hound dynamic was great.
The Guardians/Starjammers plans to strategically take down the Imperial Guard is also gold.
Whatever was done to the Inhumans during Secret Invasion, it really has given them all a turn for the darker, emotionally. Crystal's conscience might be the only thing that keeps them from doing the unthinkable, when all's said and done. Well, maybe Lockjaw's.
pesmerga316
05-06-2009, 01:52 PM
Is it just me, or should Drax be able to fight with Gladiator? I mean Drax killed Thanos, Thanos could easily mutilate Gladiator.... or is it the whole Drax is only super powerful going up against Thanos bc he has Thanos specific powers..
Great issue though
ClanAskani
05-06-2009, 01:59 PM
What I don't like is Rachel just randomly wearing the Houndmarks and not being impacted by it? Why isn't she covering them up? And if she's going to be more Houndlike, then be Houndlike. She just looks too happy to have the Houndmarks back.
Nevets F
05-06-2009, 02:01 PM
Loved, loved, loved this issue!
The best scenes for me were the Guardians and Starjammers scenes, kicking Imperial Guard butt. Really well done.
seekquaze
05-06-2009, 02:03 PM
Is it just me, or should Drax be able to fight with Gladiator? I mean Drax killed Thanos, Thanos could easily mutilate Gladiator.... or is it the whole Drax is only super powerful going up against Thanos bc he has Thanos specific powers..
Great issue though
Drax had a specific ability that allowed him to pierece Thanos' defenses that only worked against Thanos. Otherwise he can't beat beings on that level. He has no way past Gladiator's invulnerability nor does he have high enough physical powers to seriously hurt him.
pesmerga316
05-06-2009, 02:06 PM
I spose, although old dumb Draxx could throw down with Hulk (who beat the living hell out of Gladiator, alhtough I know radiation comes into play there)
Mister Jerusalem
05-06-2009, 02:08 PM
Bet I'm not the only one who cheered when Gladiator finally got his head out of his butt and threw Vulcan the deuce.
PaintballKobold
05-06-2009, 02:11 PM
All I can say is this...
Rocket Raccoon owned Galdiator for a couple pages here with that mop, didn't he?
The Cool Thatguy
05-06-2009, 02:15 PM
Drax had a specific ability that allowed him to pierece Thanos' defenses that only worked against Thanos. Otherwise he can't beat beings on that level. He has no way past Gladiator's invulnerability nor does he have high enough physical powers to seriously hurt him.
I dunno, give him two indestructable blades and he'd lay a serious hurt on Glads. Didn't he kill Lunatik that way?
Mister Jerusalem
05-06-2009, 02:17 PM
The new incarnation of Drax is still a bit of an unknown. As far as I know, he's owned some skrulls, and killed tons of bugs and Thanos. Besides the Mad Titan, not much of a resume to judge.
Beast
05-06-2009, 02:40 PM
Once again Rocket Raccoon proves his awesomeness. With help from Rachel.
And nice to see Gladiator finally pull the thumb out of his ass and stand up for himself.
Chaosopher
05-06-2009, 02:54 PM
All I can say is this...
Rocket Raccoon owned Galdiator for a couple pages here with that mop, didn't he?
That was great!
What do you guys make of Maximus' comments on the war?
Mister Jerusalem
05-06-2009, 03:03 PM
That was great!
What do you guys make of Maximus' comments on the war?
Makes me think they may have come up with a Terrigen Mist derived weapon...at least with the change em comment.
Alphaxman
05-06-2009, 03:10 PM
I’m really enjoying the war but I really want better characterization from the other Imperial Guards. They should have there own mini so we can see what they really think about Vulcan and Lilandra. They have been around for 30 years and we barely know anything about them other than them being dicks and push-overs.
Another minor complaint would be the way most artist draw the Starjammer. It’s way too small. I remember how big it was supposed to be back when the Starjammers first showed up and in X-Men the End. But Whatever.
Pelletier is still putting out stellar art.
By the way, I’m hating Medusa right now. I wish Crystal would tell her to shut the hell up.
Falconen
05-06-2009, 04:02 PM
Crystal and Lockjaw have spent the most time outside of Attilan, and thus have a better level headed understanding of the outside world. I always thought that Crys would be the one to show the more "human" side during this conflict. Her time on the Fantastic Four and Avengers helped her to see a bigger picture. I like her empathy with Ronin. It doesn't feel forced liked I thought it would after the arranged marriage.
Alex Smith
05-06-2009, 04:16 PM
That was truly excellent. Everything hit it's mark perfectly. Crystal and Ronan, Crystal's conversation with the rest of the inhumans, and most of all the Guardians of the Galaxy. absolutely amazing. I seriously love Drax and Rocket Raccoon. I'm also wondering what's going on with Adam Warlock, though. We didn't see him on Vulcan's ship. I'm wondering if he's already escaped/Vulcan has him prisoner, or if Vulcan doesn't run into him until after what we just saw. Anyway, I want more Adam Warlock :tongue: Hell I just want more Guardians, and maybe even some Quasar/Nova.
Vivica Kang
05-06-2009, 05:15 PM
It makes me wanna pick this comic up!! So was Medusa acting more "Queen" like or she just acting like she's the ruler of the inhumans? Since Crystal is the one who has common sense..
Ratwedge
05-06-2009, 05:25 PM
It makes me wanna pick this comic up!! So was Medusa acting more "Queen" like or she just acting like she's the ruler of the inhumans? Since Crystal is the one who has common sense..
Shes pretty much acting all high and mighty essentially saying whatever the Kree do is good them because its good for the Inhumans. Shes become pretty hardcore pro-active.
DeadXMan
05-06-2009, 05:25 PM
damn,
Is smasher gonna be the grasshopper of the cosmic line?
Vivica Kang
05-06-2009, 05:30 PM
Shes pretty much acting all high and mighty essentially saying whatever the Kree do is good them because its good for the Inhumans. Shes become pretty hardcore pro-active.
OOOOOOHHHHH!!!! Cant wait to see her and crippled lady (Deathbird) face off...or whoever tries to oppose this chick!
HeckBoy
05-06-2009, 06:04 PM
I forget, is War of Kings 5 or 6 issues long? It just seems like the good guys are winning quite a bit (granted, that's b/c their victories, however specific, are being spotlighted), so I'm anticipating some furious payback by Vulcan soon, or else the Shiar's just going to look like a paper tiger. Still, the issue sounds good (can't wait to read it) and since there's still much of the series left, I'm excited about what transpires.
Ratwedge
05-06-2009, 06:36 PM
I forget, is War of Kings 5 or 6 issues long? It just seems like the good guys are winning quite a bit (granted, that's b/c their victories, however specific, are being spotlighted), so I'm anticipating some furious payback by Vulcan soon, or else the Shiar's just going to look like a paper tiger. Still, the issue sounds good (can't wait to read it) and since there's still much of the series left, I'm excited about what transpires.
Actually I think that the Shi'ar might just be a cataylast for the Inhumans becoming the douche bags. Between Solications and Maximus and Medusa's little talk I think the Inhumans are gonna actually be the big baddies or at least try to by the end of it.
Brother Zag
05-06-2009, 06:41 PM
Best line of the issue: "Accessing Fist!"
Alphaxman
05-06-2009, 06:49 PM
I forget, is War of Kings 5 or 6 issues long? It just seems like the good guys are winning quite a bit (granted, that's b/c their victories, however specific, are being spotlighted), so I'm anticipating some furious payback by Vulcan soon, or else the Shiar's just going to look like a paper tiger. Still, the issue sounds good (can't wait to read it) and since there's still much of the series left, I'm excited about what transpires.
For me that is the only reason this isn’t a perfect crossover. The Kree has too many points of view for their side like the Inhuman Royal Family, the Guardian of the Galaxy and the Starjammers, while the Shi’ar only has Vulcan, Gladiator, and Admiral Ka’Ardum. Now Gladiator is on Lilandra side so there goes one more sympatric Shi’ar voice.
I had hoped the Imperial Guards would have more examples of 3 dimensional characterizations. Yes they do have some lines, but what do they really think of Vulcan and his rule? Is Gladiator the only one conflicted? Will others join him in backing Lilandra?
I hope in Gladiator’s one shot we will get to see more out of the other Guardsmen.
Maybe I feel this way because I'm a big fan of the Legion of Super-heroes.
Samuraixsithlord
05-06-2009, 07:16 PM
Actually I think that the Shi'ar might just be a cataylast for the Inhumans becoming the douche bags. Between Solications and Maximus and Medusa's little talk I think the Inhumans are gonna actually be the big baddies or at least try to by the end of it.
I think they're all being mind controlled by Maximus and don't even know it. I mean come on, after all he's done Blackbolt is just going to decide to allow him to co-rule? Plus we never got any answers why he stopped using his mind control powers on the royal family after Silent War? maybe he never did, maybe it was his plan all along for the Inhumans to take control of the Kree and forge an empire?
Ratwedge
05-06-2009, 07:25 PM
For me that is the only reason this isn’t a perfect crossover. The Kree has too many points of view for their side like the Inhuman Royal Family, the Guardian of the Galaxy and the Starjammers, while the Shi’ar only has Vulcan, Gladiator, and Admiral Ka’Ardum. Now Gladiator is on Lilandra side so there goes one more sympatric Shi’ar voice.
I had hoped the Imperial Guards would have more examples of 3 dimensional characterizations. Yes they do have some lines, but what do they really think of Vulcan and his rule? Is Gladiator the only one conflicted? Will others join him in backing Lilandra?
I hope in Gladiator’s one shot we will get to see more out of the other Guardsmen.
Maybe I feel this way because I'm a big fan of the Legion of Super-heroes.
I think your problem is that you think that this story requires a 3d Guardsmen characters other than Gladiator. It doesnt, otherwise we would be getting in depth explorations of other characters who's role in the scheme is insignificant that would bog down the story. Gladiator is the only one that needs to be fleshed out, maybe mentor other than that? Nah Guardsman dont need to be fleshed out since all they are there for is to kill and be killed.
I think they're all being mind controlled by Maximus and don't even know it. I mean come on, after all he's done Blackbolt is just going to decide to allow him to co-rule? Plus we never got any answers why he stopped using his mind control powers on the royal family after Silent War? maybe he never did, maybe it was his plan all along for the Inhumans to take control of the Kree and forge an empire?
I doubt it very highly they are being mind controlled because that would be a giant copout for them and for the writers. The whole point of this is that the Inhuman's have been crapped on one to many times and they finally said enough is enough with the isolationist policy and decided to forge the future they want. Doesnt come off anything like mind control but it comes off as people who have had enough of being abused and now want to abuse others.
Alphaxman
05-06-2009, 07:46 PM
I think your problem is that you think that this story requires a 3d Guardsmen characters other than Gladiator. It doesnt, otherwise we would be getting in depth explorations of other characters who's role in the scheme is insignificant that would bog down the story. Gladiator is the only one that needs to be fleshed out, maybe mentor other than that? Nah Guardsman dont need to be fleshed out since all they are there for is to kill and be killed.
I don't mind if it was in a separate mini but I still think that it’s a shame that the other Guardsmen are left with the shot in of the stick. And I think that both sides should have decent character depth so as a reader we can care about the outcome for all involved.
Don’t get me wrong, this is a great crossover and I love the space operas but I do like the Shi’ar and its Guardsmen.
There can be a little more equality shown.
The Kree has: the Inhuman, the Guardians of the Galaxy, the Starjammers, the Nova Corps, Darkhawk, and now Gladiator is with Lilandra. They all are getting some form of characterization.
Now the Shi’ar has Vulcan and Admiral Ka’Ardum. Without Gladiator there, the other Guardsmen are no better than the non Royal Inhuman.
It’s a small complaint but I just wait a little balance. This war could have been a chance to see more of the Imperial Guards and their personalities.
Ratwedge
05-06-2009, 08:16 PM
I don't mind if it was in a separate mini but I still think that it’s a shame that the other Guardsmen are left with the shot in of the stick. And I think that both sides should have decent character depth so as a reader we can care about the outcome for all involved.
Don’t get me wrong, this is a great crossover and I love the space operas but I do like the Shi’ar and its Guardsmen.
See, its not about Guardsmen. Shi'ar yes, but those are covered in two different parts aka Rebels and Loyalists.
There can be a little more equality shown.
I wasnt aware equality was a basic right of all storys.
The Kree has: the Inhuman, the Guardians of the Galaxy, the Starjammers, the Nova Corps, Darkhawk, and now Gladiator is with Lilandra. They all are getting some form of characterization.
For now the Kree side of the story only have the Inhumans via Crystal and a the Kree by Ronan.
The Shi'ar have Starjammers, Gladiator and Guardians of the Galaxy (In WoK that is but in their book its a bit of both really) with a bit of Vulcan and his Shi'ar.
The others, which you decided for some reason to lump in with the Kree arent actually on anyone's yet nor bring any characterization to their side. The Nova Corps is to busy at the moment sorting their own crap out and havent even been used in WoK and Darkhawks to busy trying to not be taking over. The bring even less than the Guardians do for the Shi'ar for the kree.
Its hardly the picture of unfairness your painting.
It’s a small complaint but I just wait a little balance. This war could have been a chance to see more of the Imperial Guards and their personalities.
Problem, its not their story its Gladiators. His characterzation is being played not off the Imperial Guard but the Vulcan, Liandrea and The Starjammers.
Brother Zag
05-06-2009, 08:27 PM
For me that is the only reason this isn’t a perfect crossover. The Kree has too many points of view for their side like the Inhuman Royal Family, the Guardian of the Galaxy and the Starjammers, while the Shi’ar only has Vulcan, Gladiator, and Admiral Ka’Ardum. Now Gladiator is on Lilandra side so there goes one more sympatric Shi’ar voice.
Hmm... I think DnA have given the Inhumans Crystal as a voice rather effectively. And I don't think Gladiator was a sympathetic Shi'ar voice until the last page of this issue. The war may not be over just because Guardian has gone over to Lilandra. I was just reading the Carlos Pacheco/Rafael Marin/Landronn/Llucas Inhumans series from 2000, where Ronan manipulates Black Bolt and uses him to make an assassination attempt on Lilandra. Not sure how in continuity it is, but still... no love between Lilandra and Blackagar.
I can understand why Black Bolt and Medusa are acting that way, they've been sh** on forever and all they wanted was to be left alone and then come the Skrulls who replace BB (torture him and turn him into a WMD) with an undetectable Skrull who not only plans on terminating his people but gets some action on the side with Medusa while he waits for everything to go down.
Sighphi
05-06-2009, 08:44 PM
That dude running around calling himself Ronan is a SKrull, cause there is no way the real Ronan would be bowing to anyone that isnt a ... well to anyone or with that boo hoo hoo attitude.
And did Crystal get enhance falling in love abilities from the terrigen myst or something? Cause she falls for anyone that lays eyes on her.
The rest was pretty cool. And really.... it's time, time for some Gladiator action. This "I serve the Emperor" thing has been going on for too long.
DeadXMan
05-06-2009, 08:50 PM
I'm thinking Ronan will be back in charge before long with Crystal
TheDrizzt
05-06-2009, 08:53 PM
The new incarnation of Drax is still a bit of an unknown. As far as I know, he's owned some skrulls, and killed tons of bugs and Thanos. Besides the Mad Titan, not much of a resume to judge.
He seems to be more an assassin than a warrior.
Alphaxman
05-06-2009, 08:57 PM
Hmm... I think DnA have given the Inhumans Crystal as a voice rather effectively. And I don't think Gladiator was a sympathetic Shi'ar voice until the last page of this issue. The war may not be over just because Guardian has gone over to Lilandra. I was just reading the Carlos Pacheco/Rafael Marin/Landronn/Llucas Inhumans series from 2000, where Ronan manipulates Black Bolt and uses him to make an assassination attempt on Lilandra. Not sure how in continuity it is, but still... no love between Lilandra and Blackagar.
I guess I’m not explaining myself properly and I guess “sympathetic” wasn’t the right word. I’m just saying that DnA are doing a great job on the Kree/Inhuman side but I just wish there was more from the Shi’ar side of thing other than Vulcan. Right now I included Lilandra with the Kree/Inhuman side of the war. But I just remembered Vulcan’s assassins. They are having a better showing than the Guards.
All I’m saying is show more of the Imperial Guards personalities.
Alphaxman
05-06-2009, 08:59 PM
That dude running around calling himself Ronan is a SKrull, cause there is no way the real Ronan would be bowing to anyone that isnt a ... well to anyone or with that boo hoo hoo attitude.
And did Crystal get enhance falling in love abilities from the terrigen myst or something? Cause she falls for anyone that lays eyes on her.
The rest was pretty cool. And really.... it's time, time for some Gladiator action. This "I serve the Emperor" thing has been going on for too long.
I think that Ronan has stronger feeling for her than Crystal for him. But I do think Ronan rolled over a little too quickly.
AnthonyJ
05-06-2009, 09:04 PM
I think people are not entirely reasonable in assuming that Lilandra is on the side of the Inhumans. She's after Vulcan's head, sure, but no way is she interested in the Kree beating the Shi'ar.
Lukecage
05-06-2009, 09:18 PM
Crystal is such a whiner. She's acting like the Inhumans came in and just dragged them into a war. Her memory must be slipping, because it was the Shi'ar/Emperial Guard who brought about the war. The Inhumans and Kree just responded. Vulcan is expanding and is targeting anyone near the Shi'ar Empire. Crystals characterization/viewpoint of the Inhumans as being warmongers is seriously flawed. They didn't start this war. They were drawn into a war, and they intend to win. Crystal should shut up, get with the program, and help them win.
CMBMOOL
05-06-2009, 09:32 PM
Hmm... I think DnA have given the Inhumans Crystal as a voice rather effectively. And I don't think Gladiator was a sympathetic Shi'ar voice until the last page of this issue. The war may not be over just because Guardian has gone over to Lilandra. I was just reading the Carlos Pacheco/Rafael Marin/Landronn/Llucas Inhumans series from 2000, where Ronan manipulates Black Bolt and uses him to make an assassination attempt on Lilandra. Not sure how in continuity it is, but still... no love between Lilandra and Blackagar.
That may be so, but at times of war...The enemy of my enemy can be my friend, is played along that line In my point of view.
Either Way I can't wait to see if all of this power can be enough to take Vulcan down. :evilsmile:
Ratwedge
05-06-2009, 09:45 PM
Crystal is such a whiner. She's acting like the Inhumans came in and just dragged them into a war. Her memory must be slipping, because it was the Shi'ar/Emperial Guard who brought about the war. The Inhumans and Kree just responded. Vulcan is expanding and is targeting anyone near the Shi'ar Empire. Crystals characterization/viewpoint of the Inhumans as being warmongers is seriously flawed. They didn't start this war. They were drawn into a war, and they intend to win. Crystal should shut up, get with the program, and help them win.
It was Inhumans who killed three Shi'ar warships before they took over the Kree so that means it was the Inhumans who threw the first punch which makes them fair game for Vulcan to declare war on.
Doc Goblin
05-06-2009, 09:57 PM
Fun issue. Rocket Raccoon vs. Gladiator was not the match-up I was expecting, but it was pretty great. Though I still would've loved to see Drax vs. Gladiator. I have to disagree with anyone trying to say Drax would be totally outclassed.
One think that struck me and I don't know if I like was how... easy everything went. The Starjammers have gone and successfully taken Lilandra right back. AND Gladiator has flipped so suddenly. Don't tell me that was Gladiator's big change of heart moment and he disregards his character defining loyalty to the throne because Lilandra basically says please. I was hoping for something a little more. But maybe all isn't quite as it seems and next issue will show that.
I think one thing to consider about the war is that if Lilandra does go and depose Vulcan right now, will the Inhumans stop? The Inhumans new status quo is "no one screws with us anymore." Look what they did to the Skrulls who were just fleeing. And then the Kree, who hadn't even done anything for some time. Would the Inhumans just call off the war because Vulcan is out or would they want something more from the Shi'ar?
Sgt. Preston
05-06-2009, 10:39 PM
Best line of the issue: "Accessing Fist!"
This was a great line.
Really enjoyable read though it is odd how Maximus is acting now. He's gone from being the resident Inhuman mind controlling psychopath to the resident Mr. Goodwrench.
Anticipate a twist there as well as increasing tension between Crystal and Black Bolt/Medusa.
Good to see Gladiator grow a set even if it was obvious from the start.
stingerman
05-06-2009, 11:05 PM
Review up at CosmicBookNews:
http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/reviews/wok3review
I definitely like where DnA are taking this if I think its going to where we are clued its going - with Maximus remarking about ..."joining...or changing.." them.
Really loving this storyline. Gladiator's turn was obviously spelled out but it was still cool, melting Smasher's head and the end splash page of serving at the pleasure of the Empresses. And man I really love Rocket Raccoon, "feel my furr so soft"...hilarious.
The two big question marks are the Inhumans, its obvious there is no way their rule over the Kree is going to last. They simply dont give a crap about the Kree and was Maximus foreshadowing Inhuman goals of basically ruling the universe? Once uplift program failures are known its gonna make Inhuman rule impossible since the only reason Accuser bowed was because as he said he believed the Inhumans could help the Kree. Once that fantasy is blown I can see civil war and ultimately the Kree ruled by Accuser and Crystal.
Ball Buster
05-07-2009, 12:42 AM
It seems there are going to be allot of surprises and foreshadowing .Not many have mentioned Blastaar . I believe he will soon rear his ugly head .
Ps, Rocket Racoon is classic.:biggrin:
striderhirryu2
05-07-2009, 12:51 AM
And Ravenous
Scavenger
05-07-2009, 03:21 AM
I think one thing to consider about the war is that if Lilandra does go and depose Vulcan right now, will the Inhumans stop? The Inhumans new status quo is "no one screws with us anymore." Look what they did to the Skrulls who were just fleeing. And then the Kree, who hadn't even done anything for some time. Would the Inhumans just call off the war because Vulcan is out or would they want something more from the Shi'ar?
I think you're looking in the right direction.
The Shi'ar and the Kree are the two big galactic civilizations left. I'd say there's a good chance neither makes it out doing too well, largely because we know from our Marvel Cosmic history that the Badoon are out there waiting....and what team's whole history is about fighting the Badoon? I mean, not like there are any characters from the future roaming around warning about things like that, are there?:)
jackolover
05-07-2009, 04:40 AM
There were two big changes in issue 3.
1. That we learn what the Uplift Program is (Terrigenisis of the Kree) and that this was the reason why Ronan aligned with the Inhumans, so just this evolution would remove the Kree from the stagnation of it's genes.
2. That Crystal is set up to betray the Inhumans and side with Ronan, a wholly unexpected outcome of Medusa's plans to quell Ronan, with a Royal marriage to her sister. Unfortunitely, Crystal has taken the whole exercise a little seriously, and now she is the wife of Ronan and is dedicated to him. It became quite apparant that Ronan made the point to make Crystal admit she is now married to Ronan. And from this, he could abuse Crystal as he sees fit, knowing Crystal went into this marriage disliking Ronan. He could be bitter at this revelation, and may make her pay with a with a bad marriage.
I was disturbed that Black Bolt ignored Crytals entreaty to soften the involvement of the Kree in the Inhumans conflict with the Shi'ar. Crystal is becoming more and more a Anakin Skywalker figure in this, who will sway to the dark side in the crisis, and be exiled with Ronin at the conclusion of hostiities. The Inhumans are more and more adhereing to their own agenda, while poor Crystal has distanced herself from the Royal family, (which Medusa despises), and taking the Kree to heart, she is a contradiction to the "Inhuman" treatment ( metaphor is meant), metted out to the Kree. I can only wonder which of the Inhumans could side with her when the time comes.
My other wonder is at the developement of Maximus's character. This was once a pathetic selfish bastard, that when he did attain Kingship, wasted his rule and babbled like a fool. Now, he has a determination for the War endeavor that completely cleansed his past failures, and makes him the driving force of the Inhuman war machine. It's a refreshing portrayal of the worthless character, and redeems Maximus to an equal stature of Norman Osborn, in the stakes of rising to the occasion, and having singlemindedness in success. All Hail Maximus, the First! And obviously, The Inhumans have a secret agenda that Maximus is privy too, but Which Crystal has been frozen out of, involving "Changing them", those who oppose the Inhumans.
War of Kings is developing into a most complex drama, using the Inhuman race in a way never before concieved; in a role as the Vanguard force of the Universe.
jackolover
05-07-2009, 04:49 AM
Crystal and Lockjaw have spent the most time outside of Attilan, and thus have a better level headed understanding of the outside world. I always thought that Crys would be the one to show the more "human" side during this conflict. Her time on the Fantastic Four and Avengers helped her to see a bigger picture. I like her empathy with Ronin. It doesn't feel forced liked I thought it would after the arranged marriage.
I would really like to see their romance explored. The tentative begginings, with Ronin confronting Crystal with her reluctance. And Crystal fighting to convince Ronin she has changed her mind and is now enamored by Ronin when he valiantly threw himself into battle and was mortally wounded so badly. That Ronin could concede Crystal kept to his bedside during his whole recovery. I want to see Ronin put it too Crystal, bitterly, but then concede, he too, chose her for the reason that he loved her from afar. That should be a whole mini series right there.
jackolover
05-07-2009, 04:51 AM
That was truly excellent. Everything hit it's mark perfectly. Crystal and Ronan, Crystal's conversation with the rest of the inhumans, and most of all the Guardians of the Galaxy. absolutely amazing. I seriously love Drax and Rocket Raccoon. I'm also wondering what's going on with Adam Warlock, though. We didn't see him on Vulcan's ship. I'm wondering if he's already escaped/Vulcan has him prisoner, or if Vulcan doesn't run into him until after what we just saw. Anyway, I want more Adam Warlock :tongue: Hell I just want more Guardians, and maybe even some Quasar/Nova.
Yeah, the lack of Warlocks appearance is curious. So much so, that I think Warlock has been turned into Vulcans secret weapon, and won't make an appearance until a very delicate moment in the War.
jackolover
05-07-2009, 04:59 AM
I think they're all being mind controlled by Maximus and don't even know it. I mean come on, after all he's done Blackbolt is just going to decide to allow him to co-rule? Plus we never got any answers why he stopped using his mind control powers on the royal family after Silent War? maybe he never did, maybe it was his plan all along for the Inhumans to take control of the Kree and forge an empire?
I was a little surprised that Medusa could hush Maximus, considering she was his lap dog during Silent War. Maybe Maximus really was too bored with kingship and so let go of the mind control. The other option is that there was an understanding between the brothers, and that the encouragment of becoming co-ruler of the Inhumans gave him such a thrill to be appreciated instead of having to force appreciation, that the mind control just naturally became irrelevant, because Maximus got what he wanted - recognition and respect.
I have been really impressed by Maximus embracing his role and affinity with the Inhumans as a nation at war, so everyone is equal, instead of his arrogance. The difference from the Lee'Kirby Maximus to DnA's softens the character, because the Inhumans aren't cocooned in a Red Force field or shuttled away on the moon. Now the Inhumans are on the move, in the open and enforcing themselves on the wider community, where once they huddled in obscurity. This is the big difference that I see in their behaviour. There is a kind of pride and relief at being released from the synthetic basement they lived in.
jackolover
05-07-2009, 05:18 AM
Really loving this storyline. Gladiator's turn was obviously spelled out but it was still cool, melting Smasher's head and the end splash page of serving at the pleasure of the Empresses. And man I really love Rocket Raccoon, "feel my furr so soft"...hilarious.
The two big question marks are the Inhumans, its obvious there is no way their rule over the Kree is going to last. They simply dont give a crap about the Kree and was Maximus foreshadowing Inhuman goals of basically ruling the universe? Once uplift program failures are known its gonna make Inhuman rule impossible since the only reason Accuser bowed was because as he said he believed the Inhumans could help the Kree. Once that fantasy is blown I can see civil war and ultimately the Kree ruled by Accuser and Crystal.
This is a good point. The Inhuman/Kree front may look unified now, but when the Accuser turns traitor, and brings Blastaars Negative Zone Armies into play, against the Inhumans, the War won't go as smoothly as it now seems.
Libaax
05-07-2009, 05:26 AM
If i try to catch up this event which minis,series do you read ?
I already read Guardians. Is it Main event,Kingbreaker,Darkhawk ?
Is there a reason to read that Inhuman Secret Invasion story ?
MathC
05-07-2009, 06:10 AM
Is there a reason to read that Inhuman Secret Invasion story ?
Awesome art, great story and it places the inhuman where they are right now, as leaders of the kree. Yes pick it up!
Sean Walsh
05-07-2009, 06:19 AM
Bet I'm not the only one who cheered when Gladiator finally got his head out of his butt and threw Vulcan the deuce.
.....boy howdy, I sure missed THAT visual trauma in my reading last night. :eek: :wink:
Libaax
05-07-2009, 06:20 AM
Awesome art, great story and it places the inhuman where they are right now, as leaders of the kree. Yes pick it up!
I dont care about Inhumans unless they play a real role in cosmic marvel that i really care about.
But i will read it because it puts Inhumans were they are now in WoK.
Thor-El
05-07-2009, 07:42 AM
Bet I'm not the only one who cheered when Gladiator finally got his head out of his butt and threw Vulcan the deuce.
Most assuredly not. This is the second time in two weeks that a moment in a comic actually made me cheer (the last was last week's return in Legion of 3 Worlds). I am absolutely ecstatic to see Kallark finally take a stand for what he believes in, rather than simply bowing to the lunatic of the moment for loyalty's sake.
Pelletier captures the anguish he feels perfectly. His portrayal of Kallark over the course of this story has really been stellar. The pain he's feeling is apparent. I have to wonder though, will this affect his powers? We know his abilities are fueled by self-confidence, and even though he's made a choice for what he believes in, there may still be enough doubt or uncertainty to really make a difference in his abilities. Though honestly, that's the least of the things presented here.
I've always been a huge fan of Gladiator, and like many others have always seen the vast story potential he has. It's an absolute joy to see him being handled in this manner, with the respect and care he deserves, rather than the haphazard way he's been up until this point.
I continue to hope that we get an ongoing starring him out of this, with art by either Pelletier or Ron Lim.
EDIT: I'm also curious about Electron. As the (apparently) only true Shi'ar on the team, I've often wondered how he feels about playing second-fiddle to Kallark. And he really needs a real name. Personally, I've given him the name Varin K'marr until something better comes along. It sounds adequately Shi'ar.
Brother Zag
05-07-2009, 10:26 AM
Love how DnA frame the issue's story symmetrically again. Not quite as heavily symmetrical as last issue, just a simple phrase this time, simply altered, the declarations by Gladiator, "I serve at the pleasure of Emperor Vulcan" and "I serve at the pleasure of Empress Lilandra" that open and close the book. It's a nice touch. Maybe it's because I'm a writer that I notice these things... I also really love the transition from Gladiator's narration to Crystal's at the end of page four. The list of battle results (Shi'ar setbacks) ticked off by Gladiator turns into Crystal's list of Kree/Inhuman victories, as we discover as we switch to page five and see she's relaying information to the recovering Ronan. What a seemless way to switch POV!
Crystal's narrative voice is somewhat naive in its optimism. Her assessment of Ronan's motives is rosy, too cheery to be true IMHO. It's her voice, though, and fair enough if DnA are using her cheeriness to lull us into believing things are better than they actually are.
It makes total sense that the Inhumans are trying to win over the Kree with promises of evolution...
Maximus is... suspect. Always suspect in my book!
Medusa is certainly living into the Queen's ego. Black Bolt is inscrutable... in other words, Black Bolt is Black Bolt. He seems indifferent to Crystal's concerns that the Inhumans are using the Kree. Maybe because no one has seemed concerned about using the Inhumans over the years. Crystal's audience with Black Bolt is quiet, with few balloons and nice tension that slows the pace to a crawl... tension that continues with the transition to the Shi'ar warbird next page. Just before the halfway point of this issue we switch back to Gladiator, now en route with Lilandra prisoner. The first thing we see besides the ship is Lilandra, and then we see we've been looking at her from Gladiator's POV through the small window in her cell door. Gladiator is clearly internally debating what he's doing, his one word answers to Smasher's small talk indicative of his mindset, helping to build continuing tension.
Which finally releases as the Starjammers bust in! And DnA give us a one-two punch of tension release, first with the 'jammers on one page and then with the Guardians of the Galaxy on the next! I love Gladiator's reaction: "The-- WHO?" and then bam, next page our boys bust in! I don't care if it's cliche to use the Scarface quote - I think the fact it's Rocket Raccoon (with a mop, as it turns out) makes it work! Love how Pelletier draws Drax! You can see his care for the characters in the art on that splash page. The way they neutralize Gladiator is ingenious! And consistent with the power set of the big G - you can't just attack him physically, you've got to compromise his confidence in some way. Go Rachel!
Good fight scenes... again, love, love, love "Accessing Fist!" & the way Pelletier draws Drax's expressions. His Rocket is great, too. "It was sweet while it lasted, Rachel Baby!" Only RR can get away with that! And with the next exchange with Gladiator, too, incl. the "cute little mammal with fur this soft... feel." I like the way Gladiator blurs out of there and blurs in to see Lilandra, bashing people as he goes like an afterthought. When he stands before her and calls her "Majestrix" you know he's gone over to her side. Poor Smasher - the Spinal Tap drummer of the Imperial Guard. Smasher keeps buying it. It's dark, gallows humor, but I like it.
In another example of storytelling symmetry, our two narrators (Crystal/Gladiator) each end their part in this issue in the presence of their ruler. I also noticed each begins the book in the presence of their people's former ruler. More symmetry? Gladiator is the Insider with Outsider and (soon to be, in Gladiator's eyes) former King Vulcan as he starts, and Crystal is the Outsider with the Insider former King Ronan as she starts. I love the storytelling craft exhibited here as much as I'm really enjoying the pure fun of the ride the story is taking us on!
Beast
05-07-2009, 10:53 AM
Just hope that the crossover ends with Vulcan and Deathbird deposed, with Lilanda and Gladiator on the Shi'ar throne. And with Black Bolt and Medusa deposed, with Crystal and Ronan on the Kree throne.
Cause honestly, that's what should happen.
jackolover
05-07-2009, 03:29 PM
Just hope that the crossover ends with Vulcan and Deathbird deposed, with Lilanda and Gladiator on the Shi'ar throne. And with Black Bolt and Medusa deposed, with Crystal and Ronan on the Kree throne.
Cause honestly, that's what should happen.
Yeah. But I would be disappointed if the Inhumans are relegated to exile status again, instead of a real force in Galactic politics.
Brother Zag
05-07-2009, 04:37 PM
that does seem unlikely
Zero Hunter
05-07-2009, 05:32 PM
I hope that this all ends with not just Vulcan and Deathbird deposed but Liandra too. Ever since the first apperance of the Shiar they have been rulled by this one totaly messed up family in one form or another, and it is time for a real change. Liandra is just as much a faliure as a leader of her people as Dken and Deathbird were.
AnthonyJ
05-07-2009, 06:41 PM
Liandra is just as much a faliure as a leader of her people as Dken and Deathbird were.
Governments in comic books have a strong tendency to be either ineffective or evil (or both), because successful, good governments are fairly boring in story terms. Having Lilandra win would allow the Shi'ar to fade into the background again, until someone else wants to use them for a story.
MTL76
05-07-2009, 06:50 PM
Governments in comic books have a strong tendency to be either ineffective or evil (or both), because successful, good governments are fairly boring in story terms.
True enough. Though it would be funny (maybe) for one of the large-scale civilizations like the Shi'ar, Kree or Skrulls to go:
"Enh, we've had enough with the pointless wars and stuff, we're just going to be neutral and make loot."
[Other civilizations]: "Uhhh... don't you want to fight or something? We got kewl new warships we wanna use!"
"Nah, not really. Maybe in a few centuries or so."
jackolover
05-07-2009, 09:52 PM
I hope that this all ends with not just Vulcan and Deathbird deposed but Liandra too. Ever since the first apperance of the Shiar they have been rulled by this one totaly messed up family in one form or another, and it is time for a real change. Liandra is just as much a faliure as a leader of her people as Dken and Deathbird were.
I hope it ends with the Shi'ar and Kree under Inhuman rule and this stops the War. I don't know where that could lead, but if the Badoon decide that it's time to claim a little territory, then that wouldn't be too unwelcome. I would like that Maximus is married off to Lilandra and given the Shi'ar Empire, though. That could cause some inter-Inhuman rivalry in the future.
Aren't the X-Men supposed to be associated with the Shi'ar nowadays? Maybe a newly resurrected Jean Grey could make a good mate for Maximus.
steve2275
05-07-2009, 10:41 PM
I forget, is War of Kings 5 or 6 issues long? since there's still much of the series left, I'm excited about what transpires.
were halfway thru :tongue:
The Purple Skull
05-07-2009, 11:02 PM
Best line of the issue: "Accessing Fist!"
Seconded! :biggrin:
Bookem Danno
05-08-2009, 10:06 AM
Never doubt a raccoon! Another great line in a great issue!
Mitteloss
05-08-2009, 11:29 AM
Another amazing issue! Love DnA's writing and Pelletier's wonderful art!
And I pretty much agree with what everyone before me has said about this issue. Except, I like Medusa. She's a diva, and though I dislike the way she treats the Kree, I like strong and powerful women. And Medusa is definitely the strongest I'm seeing right now in Marvel.
Sean Walsh
05-08-2009, 02:12 PM
Yeah. But I would be disappointed if the Inhumans are relegated to exile status again, instead of a real force in Galactic politics.
Considering Crystal's actions in WOK #2, I think she'll be safe in the eyes of the Kree (if, of course, the Kree get out of WOK in one piece)......and alongside Ronan to boot.
Beast
05-08-2009, 04:58 PM
Governments in comic books have a strong tendency to be either ineffective or evil (or both), because successful, good governments are fairly boring in story terms. Having Lilandra win would allow the Shi'ar to fade into the background again, until someone else wants to use them for a story.
It's Marvel Cosmic. Everything fades into the background unless someone wants to use it for a story.
Cause cosmic books just really do not sell. GotG is awesome sauce, but sells terribly.
stingerman
05-08-2009, 04:58 PM
Seems to be some think that each of the rulers will be replaced-
Vulcan by Lilandra/Glad
BBolt by Ronan/Crystal
I am hoping they sort of go in a different direction and have the Inhumans unleash their "Uplifting" program on the Shi'ar (Maximus kinda hinted at that as I read it) - maybe after Lilandra takes over and attempts to reconcile with the Inhumans with BB denying her.
Thus, the Inhumans become the "bad guys."
However, I suppose the above could still happen because of that.
I'm also still trying to figure out what role the Raptors from Ascension will play - or Chris depending on the outcome. As of right now I am hoping Chris doesn't get the armor and the Raptors stick around - their scheming would work well with Maximus I think.
Somebody
05-08-2009, 05:11 PM
I'm also still trying to figure out what role the Raptors from Ascension will play - or Chris depending on the outcome.
Did you read the WoK #5/WoK:A #4 solicits? Big, BIG hints in that... (if you haven't read them, don't.)
Really, the solicits of late - especially on the "cosmic" books - have been far, far too spoilery. At least two Nova solicits, in particular, have given away huge chunks of plot.
GalactaSurfer
05-08-2009, 05:22 PM
Another amazing issue! Love DnA's writing and Pelletier's wonderful art!
And I pretty much agree with what everyone before me has said about this issue. Except, I like Medusa. She's a diva, and though I dislike the way she treats the Kree, I like strong and powerful women. And Medusa is definitely the strongest I'm seeing right now in Marvel.
LOVE Madusa! Shes looking extra hawt in this issue too (camel toe! :tongue: )
This issue was the strongest so far and most dramatic. For some reason I dont feel like theres going to be a resolution to this conflict come the final issue. I can see this carrying over into the ongoing titles.
stingerman
05-08-2009, 06:59 PM
Did you read the WoK #5/WoK:A #4 solicits? Big, BIG hints in that... (if you haven't read them, don't.)
Really, the solicits of late - especially on the "cosmic" books - have been far, far too spoilery. At least two Nova solicits, in particular, have given away huge chunks of plot.
I probably have, though at the moment I can't recall them, lol!
I agree, it seems the cosmic solicits give away too much - especially in regards to Nova.
Brother Zag
05-08-2009, 10:39 PM
Beware the solicits! Absolutely. Marvel guards the secrets in the big events' solicits, but they've been a little too free in the cosmic ones. I stopped reading them!
jackolover
05-09-2009, 01:23 AM
Governments in comic books have a strong tendency to be either ineffective or evil (or both), because successful, good governments are fairly boring in story terms. Having Lilandra win would allow the Shi'ar to fade into the background again, until someone else wants to use them for a story.
Is there a Galactic council in the MU? If so, what kind of constitution is there? If there isn't a Galactic constitution, then the law of roaming sherrifs (Like Nova, or the GoG), over rules any local law. I'm refering to this, because I have a query about a uniform law across the galaxy that Kree, Skrull, Shi'ar, Baddon, and Earth would agree with, because to me, there seems to be some uniform understanding between races. Or am I wrong?
jackolover
05-09-2009, 01:26 AM
Seems to be some think that each of the rulers will be replaced-
Vulcan by Lilandra/Glad
BBolt by Ronan/Crystal
I am hoping they sort of go in a different direction and have the Inhumans unleash their "Uplifting" program on the Shi'ar (Maximus kinda hinted at that as I read it) - maybe after Lilandra takes over and attempts to reconcile with the Inhumans with BB denying her.
Thus, the Inhumans become the "bad guys."
However, I suppose the above could still happen because of that.
I'm also still trying to figure out what role the Raptors from Ascension will play - or Chris depending on the outcome. As of right now I am hoping Chris doesn't get the armor and the Raptors stick around - their scheming would work well with Maximus I think.
What did Black Bolt agree to with Lilandra in issue #1, anyway? Was it that Lilandra would form a permanent alliance with the Kree if the Kree won?
Expletive Deleted
05-09-2009, 11:47 AM
Is there a Galactic council in the MU?Yes, but it's more a diplomatic forum than a galactic government.
Remember in X-MEN: KINGBREAKER #2 when Vulcan killed those diplomats? That was them.
Brother Zag
05-09-2009, 11:55 AM
YRemember in X-MEN: KINGBREAKER #2 when Vulcan killed those diplomats? That was them.
Heh... Oh yeah. That WAS them. Reminded me of "The Imperial Senate will not sit still for this!"
I was trying to remember if that was in the Wok:SI or Kingbreaker.
jackolover
05-09-2009, 11:04 PM
Yes, but it's more a diplomatic forum than a galactic government.
Remember in X-MEN: KINGBREAKER #2 when Vulcan killed those diplomats? That was them.
Thanks Expletive. I never knew this.
So, at some point, these races (Earth, Skrull, Kree, Shi'ar, Bidoon, and others) did sit down and agree on something like the Nova Corp taking the law into their own hands, and everyone agreeing to this?
The Black Guardian
05-10-2009, 02:12 AM
Thanks Expletive. I never knew this.
So, at some point, these races (Earth, Skrull, Kree, Shi'ar, Bidoon, and others) did sit down and agree on something like the Nova Corp taking the law into their own hands, and everyone agreeing to this?
No. In fact, there is no galactic council in the Milky Way. The council that Vulcan killed was the Shi'ar council, which ran the Shi'ar galaxy.
Not sure how the Skrulls ran Andromeda or the Kree the Magellanic Clouds, but they are/were in their own galaxies.
The Milky Way is like Earth was pre-1945... heck, maybe even like Earth was in the Middle Ages.
ShaunN
05-10-2009, 07:31 AM
Hi! I'm really enjoying this series, but I'd like to echo some comments made earlier on this thread:
1) Why is Rachel so weak? It seems that she no longer possesses the power of the Phoenix - could someone send me the reference for when that happened?
2) Why hasn't anyone in the series mentioned the Inhumans' destruction of the three Shi'ar battleships? That was an unjustifiable act of aggression that certainly gave the Shi'ar a valid excuse for attacking the Inhumans/Kree. Yet, in WOK #1, when Lilandra is requesting sanctuary with the Kree, Maximus points out that giving her sanctuary could provoke the Shi'ar. No one bothers to point out that the Shi'ar already have considerable reasons for being provoked! I almost get the sense that Abnett and Lanning are deliberately ignoring the earlier act of war by the Inhumans, almost as though they wish they had not written that particular scene. Does anyone have any comment/insight on this?
Thanks,
Shaun
ShaunN
05-10-2009, 07:32 AM
Oh, a PS - I, too, am a big Gladiator fan - I really hope that he gets a mini-series out of this and that the character is treated with the respect he deserves - especially as regards his power! I've seen Gladiator get kicked around in the MU far more often than he should over the years!
Don't pee in the (Dead)pool
05-10-2009, 08:00 AM
War Of Kings is shaping up to be a great Cosmic adventure. I think both Marvel's and DC's Cosmic books are really good and certainly more interesting than most of the terrestrial-based books right now.
Expletive Deleted
05-10-2009, 08:07 AM
The council that Vulcan killed was the Shi'ar council, which ran the Shi'ar galaxy.Nope. They're described as "the Galactic Council" and they include a Kree, a Rigellian (with a Recorder), an Ovoid, and a few others I don't recognize off the top of my head. They talk about agreements Lilandra had made with them in the past, the Kree representative (an Accuser) accuses Vulcan of overstepping his bounds, and then Vulcan kills them all. He spares the Recorder, which he sends to Ronan with a message.
Expletive Deleted
05-10-2009, 08:12 AM
Why is Rachel so weak? It seems that she no longer possesses the power of the Phoenix - could someone send me the reference for when that happened?In KINGBREAKER #4, the Phoenix Force abandons her. We don't know why, yet, although the implication is that it relates to a possible return of Jean Grey in the near future.
pariah-1972
05-10-2009, 08:19 AM
I like seeing the connection between Ronan and Crystal.
I don't recall him having much of a personality before this.
Fat Cobra
05-10-2009, 08:33 AM
I like seeing the connection between Ronan and Crystal.
I don't recall him having much of a personality before this.
I actually think there relationship is pretty weird. You have this big blue creepy dude and sexy Crystal hanging around together? I was actually hoping his wounds might be fatal but I guess its not meant to be.
pariah-1972
05-10-2009, 08:48 AM
I actually think there relationship is pretty weird. You have this big blue creepy dude and sexy Crystal hanging around together? I was actually hoping his wounds might be fatal but I guess its not meant to be.Are you Racist against blue people? or maybe you it's the Kree?
:eek:
Brother Zag
05-10-2009, 09:21 AM
It will be interesting to see if the Crystal/Ronan marriage holds up. Wartime relationships are funny things. What is forged in the heat of panic and in the shadow of death sometimes falls apart when peace comes. All's fair in love and war and all that, too...
Crystal has been an effective narrator for the Inhumans/Kree side of the story. Her personality shows in her narrative voice. DNA are writing her as a strong yet compassionate woman who takes her responsibilities to her people seriously, and who is truly embracing the Kree as her people as well. The rest of the Inhumans Royal Family do not seem so empathetic toward the Kree. Medusa is a great example - another strong, well written, female character whose personality is very different from Crystal's, Medusa clearly embraces the "Royal" part of "Royal Family".
On the other hand, Lilandra Neramani hasn't been as fleshed out a character in this series. Yet. With the narrator for the Shi'ar side of the story, Gladiator, finally over to her side we may see her become more three dimensional. Neither of our narrators was all that sympathetic to her in the first three issues, so she wasn't really presented in more than one dimension. We've seen her cower more than anything. My hope is that she finishes stronger.
pariah-1972
05-10-2009, 09:25 AM
I wish there was more reason for Gladiator to switch sides it seems so random compared to all the other times he has just played the loyal soldier and do what he has been told.
Expletive Deleted
05-10-2009, 09:43 AM
Eh, they've been playing up his feelings for Lilandra for the last couple of months in KINGBREAKER and WAR OF KINGS. I wouldn't say it's completely random.
Brother Zag
05-10-2009, 09:52 AM
Eh, they've been playing up his feelings for Lilandra for the last couple of months in KINGBREAKER and WAR OF KINGS. I wouldn't say it's completely random.
Gotta second that. I think they've built his inner conflict up pretty clearly.
pariah-1972
05-10-2009, 09:59 AM
Eh, they've been playing up his feelings for Lilandra for the last couple of months in KINGBREAKER and WAR OF KINGS. I wouldn't say it's completely random.I'm not sure what you mean by feelings, but there was a lot of foreshadowing that he was gonna change his mind.
freddy1428
05-10-2009, 02:16 PM
Are you Racist against blue people? or maybe you it's the Kree?
:eek:
Blue Kree are handsome, see dr Minerva for example and the blue kree Nova.:tongue:
I feel that Ronan is too good for her, she is okay, but she don't have a great reputation (Quicksilver know that very well) and for Fat Cobra, see the muscular body of Ronan:
http://z.about.com/d/comicbooks/1/0/O/C/ronan2.jpg
There are not so much women who can be insensible for that, and he have a very good job (accuser) since lot of years, he have surely lot of money now and he have a good place in the Kree society with lot of power and responsability.:biggrin:
You are the boss Ronan, please comeback for kick some shiar ass !!!!
pariah-1972
05-10-2009, 02:35 PM
Blue Kree are handsome, see dr Minerva for example and the blue kree Nova.:tongue:
I feel that Ronan is too good for her, she is okay, but she don't have a great reputation (Quicksilver know that very well) and for Fat Cobra, see the muscular body of Ronan:
http://z.about.com/d/comicbooks/1/0/O/C/ronan2.jpg
There are not so much women who can be insensible for that, and he have a very good job (accuser) since lot of years, he have surely lot of money now and he have a good place in the Kree society with lot of power and responsability.:biggrin:
You are the boss Ronan, please comeback for kick some shiar ass !!!!Sooo who would you like to see him with?
freddy1428
05-10-2009, 02:40 PM
Sooo who would you like to see him with?
Medusa, just for see Black Bolt scream "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO".
Fat Cobra
05-10-2009, 05:05 PM
Blue Kree are handsome, see dr Minerva for example and the blue kree Nova.:tongue:
I feel that Ronan is too good for her, she is okay, but she don't have a great reputation (Quicksilver know that very well) and for Fat Cobra, see the muscular body of Ronan:
http://z.about.com/d/comicbooks/1/0/O/C/ronan2.jpg
There are not so much women who can be insensible for that, and he have a very good job (accuser) since lot of years, he have surely lot of money now and he have a good place in the Kree society with lot of power and responsability.:biggrin:
You are the boss Ronan, please comeback for kick some shiar ass !!!!
I've seen that cover before and the first thing I thought when I saw it was that anyone who's ever seen Ronan in a comic knows he looks nothing like that, well besides the color and costume. Also,I have nothing against the kree, I find them very exotic. I just think Ronan is a very unlikable character. I mean, he was willing to send thousand of sentries to destroy his own planet in Annihilation Conquest. Thats pretty hardcore.
Also, Ko-Rel (the kree nova) was pretty hot. I hope they bring her back.
AnthonyJ
05-10-2009, 05:09 PM
I wish there was more reason for Gladiator to switch sides it seems so random compared to all the other times he has just played the loyal soldier and do what he has been told.
Other than the fact Lilandra's been pushing at him for a while, Vulcan's proving himself to be a real idiot, so it's a toss-up between duty to the Emperor and duty to the Empire.
pariah-1972
05-10-2009, 05:38 PM
Other than the fact Lilandra's been pushing at him for a while, Vulcan's proving himself to be a real idiot, so it's a toss-up between duty to the Emperor and duty to the Empire.The thing that throne has seen so many different people take the throne even when they are complete nutters and he is loyal to them and Vulcan has been sitting on that throne for a few years now and he is just finally coming to his senses?
He needs to grow a set of balls.
Loved, loved, loved this issue!
...The very idea that Lockjaw has a Thing chewtoy was the best part of the whole issue! :biggrin:
jackolover
05-10-2009, 08:38 PM
Nope. They're described as "the Galactic Council" and they include a Kree, a Rigellian (with a Recorder), an Ovoid, and a few others I don't recognize off the top of my head. They talk about agreements Lilandra had made with them in the past, the Kree representative (an Accuser) accuses Vulcan of overstepping his bounds, and then Vulcan kills them all. He spares the Recorder, which he sends to Ronan with a message.
See, that's something I would like to see formalised, sometime in the future. They've had this big war with Annihilis, and Ultron, and now with the Vulcan/Kree, so it makes a lot of sense that the community of the galaxies stop their bickoring, and sit down and talk about regionalised conflicts getting out of hand. They have the Nova corp, the GoG and a few Lone Rangers about, but these have to be brought into a "Goort" type Security alliance, with Ultimate power over a situation.
The Guardian of the Galaxy is the perfect vehicle for this. It has it's own frontier headquaters and the head Marshall is Security chief at Knowhere, who can teleport them to any point in the Universe, as they did to the Negative Zone to quell the Blastaar problem. But they need a far greater force power wise. Something like that Galactus killer of Reed Richards, that is too expensive to run by earthlings, but can be run by the galaxies. It would be like having your own Galactus, except, it doesn't eat your planet, it just devistates your armada.
marvell2100
05-11-2009, 06:35 PM
A little late to the conversation but #3 was a great read. Who doubted that Gladiator wouldn't eventually turn on Vulcan or that he would actually harm Lilandra. His animosity towards Vulcan has been building for some time now. Poor Smasher. You had such promise. Loved Rocket Raccoon, "you wouldn't hurt a raccoon would you?" lol. The Royal Family is going to have a huge problem if they cant get the upstart program to work. Maybe they just have to do it the old fashioned way, y' know. Man + Woman = baby. I think maybe Crystal and Ronan may have to get that program started. Did Havok get another power upgrade? He got in a pretty good shot on Gladiator, although it didn't keep him down. This is a good mini and I hope it paves the way for more Cosmic stuff down the road.
danteipp
05-11-2009, 09:51 PM
Rocket Racoon; Lockjaw with a Thing chew toy; Groot, "I AM GROOT"; and Drax, "Accessing Fist"; make this a terrific issue once again. I just hope that Nova and Quasar get here soon to see some action.
I am MODOK
05-12-2009, 07:30 AM
This is going to be the best comic I read this month. So many good character moments that everyone gets a chance to shine, and yet the greater plot moved forward in some pretty important ways too. That's great writing.
My review:
http://comicperday.blogspot.com/2009/05/war-of-kings-3.html
Shadd
05-13-2009, 06:40 AM
The Royal Family is going to have a huge problem if they cant get the upstart program to work. Maybe they just have to do it the old fashioned way, y' know. Man + Woman = baby. I think maybe Crystal and Ronan may have to get that program started. Did Havok get another power upgrade? He got in a pretty good shot on Gladiator, although it didn't keep him down. This is a good mini and I hope it paves the way for more Cosmic stuff down the road.
Ah ya, a lil kree/inhuman hybridization may be exactly what they need to jumpstart upstart.
Anyways, Havok recently absorbed all the energy of a Hodinn (sentient star) that was on Vulcans new Imperial Guard in the Kingbreaker series, so I guess hes still running about channeling a bunch of that energy, tho tbh I am not entirely sure how his powers are supposed to work.
Brother Zag
05-14-2009, 08:14 AM
Just checked out a sweet preview over at cosmic book news:
http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/previews/wok4epreview
gunnerfan69
05-16-2009, 09:44 AM
Just re-read the issue. Long time coming for Gladiator to switch sides but didn't seem a bit abrupt?
pariah-1972
05-16-2009, 10:25 AM
Just re-read the issue. Long time coming for Gladiator to switch sides but didn't seem a bit abrupt?I thought so too.
marvell2100
05-16-2009, 02:00 PM
Ah ya, a lil kree/inhuman hybridization may be exactly what they need to jumpstart upstart.
Anyways, Havok recently absorbed all the energy of a Hodinn (sentient star) that was on Vulcans new Imperial Guard in the Kingbreaker series, so I guess hes still running about channeling a bunch of that energy, tho tbh I am not entirely sure how his powers are supposed to work.
I think they are going to have to let him keep the power upgrade. If he's going to be facing off against people like Vulcan, Gladiator, possibly Black Bolt and other cosmic level threats, his previous pls won't be enough.
Aubergine~!
05-17-2009, 08:26 PM
Rocket Racoon is awesome.
"Feel."
So cute, yet so awesome.
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