Beast or Angel:Who would you prefer on a team?

[Winghead]

Beast seems to get way more push than Angel who usually just stands in the background silent. If only one of these characters got to be on a team who would you prefer and why

[Leogam]

I would prefer Angel not Archangel, and have Beast as a supporting character

[Raptor]

I'd want Beast over Angel or Archangel anyday.

Angel has never really impressed me otehr than one scene in Kyle/Yost's recent X-Force.

Beast brings something other than combat to the table.

[Perfection/Emma 2]

Angel is the better fighter, but Beast gots the brains...Beast.

[Leogam]

I just like the visual Angel brings with his white feathered wings (not metal wings)

[Winghead]

Yea I like the idea of wings too. I really hope he doesn't go back to archangel full time

[peopleofpaper]

Beast is one of my least favorite characters, but I would feel safer with a genius on the team. Angel can fly but Beast can figure everything out. Unless Angel had his healing powers like he did for five minutes years ago, I'd go with Beast.

[x_goalkeeper]

I like Beast, but a tough choice.. I can not really find fault with Angel either.

[Nicoclaws]

I'd rather see the Original 5 as support team... like in the background, important but not what the story's about. Beast as a med, Angel as a money-bringer, Cyclops as a "king", Sage as a coordinator... maybe Iceman as a field leader, it's time to give him a more important role.

[Decepticons_Rule]

I'd rather have Squirrel Girl.

[timbox]

I do not appreciate this ultimatum.

[Shaid O Gray]

Beast.

Beast.

A 1000 times Beast. I love ole Hank and Warren is probably my least favorite X-Man. I don't even hate him. I can't muster the energy. He's just so.....dull!! And the only interesting thing they've done with him (the Apocalypse thing) kinda got old real fast. The "What have I become?! Curse you Apocalypse!!" angsting just kinda makes me yawn now.

[ĐØМ]

Beast. He's always been one of my favorite X-Men.

[AcesX1X]

wait, what team?

[lockerogue]

I would prefer Ape Beast to Cat Beast. Cat beast just needs to die. So I guess I choose Angel.

[psycwave]

Archangel and Dark Beast are the only correct options.

[Jay Dogg]

Since Beast became an emo feline...I'd say Angel. Archangel that is. Before then, he would just fly, use a cannon, and pick up and drop his enemies.

[Aguja]

Angel, in any incarnation, but preferably just as Angel. Beast has had years now on the A-list and has done nothing with it. He is such a bore, and Cat Beast is garbage. Warren has not been as overexposed. There is more potential there.

And really has the Beast must die campaign not proved how irrelevant Beast is?

[ĐØМ]

Cat Beast is garbage.

I agree, I really hate that look.

And really has the Beast must die campaign not proved how irrelevant Beast is?


Eh?

[Fuji]

Beast all the way. He contributes a lot more as far as fighting and as a scientist. Yeah it's nice to have Warren's money but I'd prefer the brains.

[Leogam]

I dont know why its okay to give Hawkman a mace & a shield, but we cant have Angel w/ feather wings carry some type of stun gun & maybe a energy shield for his arsenal. Anyway I would want warren to join some type of PR team as he is now, and Beast the same or take a position in mutant affairs with the working with Val Cooper in the government or a position with the President similar to the end of X3

[Fuji]

I dont know why its okay to give Hawkman a mace & a shield, but we cant have Angel w/ feather wings carry some type of stun gun & maybe a energy shield for his arsenal. Anyway I would want warren to join some type of PR team as he is now, and Beast the same or take a position in mutant affairs with the working with Val Cooper in the government or a position with the President similar to the end of X3

I agree, but Beast can fight too. I have yet to see Angel (not Archangel) do anything badarse in a fight.

[Aguja]

I dont know why its okay to give Hawkman a mace & a shield, but we cant have Angel w/ feather wings carry some type of stun gun & maybe a energy shield for his arsenal. Anyway I would want warren to join some type of PR team as he is now, and Beast the same or take a position in mutant affairs with the working with Val Cooper in the government or a position with the President similar to the end of X3

Exactly. Writers also fail to use Warren's heightened strength, or the fact that his wings are strong enough to break someone's bones. Some authors have utilized these things but very few do. It's just a matter of good writing and Warren as Angel has not received much of it.

Beast on the other hand has gotten a ton and still fails.

[ĐØМ]

How does Beast fail? He's a fun character. He's been great in Astonishing and Uncanny lately.

[Pixie_Solanas]

How does Beast fail? He's a fun character. He's been great in Astonishing and Uncanny lately.

He's been great in Astonishing as a doddering old fool that has his neck snapped by Hisako.

And in Uncanny, he's upstaged by Forge tech, talking coffee machines, Kavita Rao's uber-toothiness, and Madison Jefferies' fine selection of luxurious flannel.

[alf_to_the_rescue]

I dont know why its okay to give Hawkman a mace & a shield, but we cant have Angel w/ feather wings carry some type of stun gun & maybe a energy shield for his arsenal. Anyway I would want warren to join some type of PR team as he is now, and Beast the same or take a position in mutant affairs with the working with Val Cooper in the government or a position with the President similar to the end of X3

Angel got an alternate Magik's Soulsword for a weapon. Course it's never been seen since. But would be pretty cool for him to wield it.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Angel got an alternate Magik's Soulsword for a weapon. Course it's never been seen since. But would be pretty cool for him to wield it.

It got stuck in Candy Southern.

[Valeria Kementari]

Beast definetely has to join the Mighty Avengers, he was at his best with the Avengers, far more at home than with the X-Men

[ĐØМ]

He's been great in Astonishing as a doddering old fool that has his neck snapped by Hisako.

And in Uncanny, he's upstaged by Forge tech, talking coffee machines, Kavita Rao's uber-toothiness, and Madison Jefferies' fine selection of luxurious flannel.

And he's been entertaining the whole time.

[HeckBoy]

I like both characters, but it's Angel by a landslide for me. Warren has always been a favorite of mine, while Beast's consistent presence on a X-team has kinda reached a saturation point for me (not overexposure mind you, but Beast has just been such a constant in a lot of the X-titles I've been reading that I'm yearning for new/varied blood). Not to mention, I've never been much of a fan of cat-Beast (turn him human-looking again or at least ape-like), so I'd probably still vote Warren if I wasn't such a big fan of his.

[Joe Franklin]

I would prefer Ape Beast to Cat Beast. Cat beast just needs to die. So I guess I choose Angel.

Same here. I despise Cat Beast, but Ape Beast is in my top 5 favorite X-Men.

Ape Beast should be an Avenger though. He makes a better Avenger then an X-Man. Beast sucked until he joined the Avengers, the Avengers made Hank great. Morrison made his craptacular.

[Justin K.]

Same here. I despise Cat Beast, but Ape Beast is in my top 5 favorite X-Men.

Ape Beast should be an Avenger though. He makes a better Avenger then an X-Man. Beast sucked until he joined the Avengers, the Avengers made Hank great. Morrison made his craptacular.

I hate to offend anyone, but Claremont ruined him by making him a cat in the first place. Everything after that was a downward spiral.

[Joe Franklin]

I hate to offend anyone, but Claremont ruined him by making him a cat in the first place. Everything after that was a downward spiral.

Claremont didn't make him a cat, Morrison did. X-Treme X-Men had Ape Beast in it, Morrison was not going to use Ape Beast for his run, but changed his mind, and came up with the Cat Beast idea. Claremont had to give Hank to Morrison, so the transformation took place in X-Treme X-Men, but Claremont did it for Morrison's soon to come New X-Men stories, it was not Claremont's idea at all.

[HeckBoy]

I hate to offend anyone, but Claremont ruined him by making him a cat in the first place. Everything after that was a downward spiral.Was it Claremont's idea in the first place though? IIRC, the cat form was "previewed" in X-Treme X-Men first, then Hank debuted in Morrison's run already cat-ified. I always thought it was Morrison's idea to make him all catty and to sorta evoke a Disney's Beauty and the Beast vibe.

[HeckBoy]

Claremont didn't make him a cat, Morrison did. X-Treme X-Men had Ape Beast in it, Morrison was not going to use Ape Beast for his run, but changed his mind, and came up with the Cat Beast idea. Claremont had to give Hank to Morrison, so the transformation took place in X-Treme X-Men, but Claremont did it for Morrison's soon to come New X-Men stories, it was not Claremont's idea at all.Ah, answered my question before I asked it. :biggrin:

[Will J.]

Archangel, obviously.

Beast has been getting on my nerves lately.

[Joe Franklin]

Ah, answered my question before I asked it. :biggrin:

Glad to be of service.

Morrison is the guy who created the craptacular Cat Beast, and no other writer should be blamed for ruining Beast, Morrison did it all on his own.

[Justin K.]

Glad to be of service.

Morrison is the guy who created the craptacular Cat Beast, and no other writer should be blamed for ruining Beast, Morrison did it all on his own.

kk, my bad, didnt know which came first.

[Joe Franklin]

kk, my bad, didnt know which came first.

It's all cool.

I love most of Morrison's DC work in the 80's and 90's, but his X-Men run was craptacular for the most part. He did however have a few good artists for his X-Men run, so I bought some of his X-Men for the art alone. Morrison does a much better job with DC's characters then Marvel's.

[Shyft]

Angel, but i really like both.

[The Black Guardian]

Overall, my preference is for both of them to kick Scott in the balls and get on a non-mutant team.

But I prefer Hank to Warren, simply because Hank is smarter.

[Nicoclaws]

Question, what do you hate about feline-form ? I mean, I prefer that to he generic kinda-animal form he had before, with the strange hair marvel seems to give to animal-like characters, even if I don't understand what is their inspiration.

[ĐØМ]

For me, I don't like it because it doesn't make any sense for him to be cat-like when his powers always made him seem more like an ape. That, and I think it just looks stupid.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Claremont didn't make him a cat, Morrison did. X-Treme X-Men had Ape Beast in it, Morrison was not going to use Ape Beast for his run, but changed his mind, and came up with the Cat Beast idea. Claremont had to give Hank to Morrison, so the transformation took place in X-Treme X-Men, but Claremont did it for Morrison's soon to come New X-Men stories, it was not Claremont's idea at all.

And Morrison intended to have him completely devolve, which apparently has been stunted.

[jarrod]

I pick Sage.

[Aguja]

Question, what do you hate about feline-form ? I mean, I prefer that to he generic kinda-animal form he had before, with the strange hair marvel seems to give to animal-like characters, even if I don't understand what is their inspiration.

Ape Beast wasn't as fug. Like you could sort of entertain the idea of sleeping with him and not regretting it. With Cat Beast I'd rather have him euthanized

[Nicoclaws]

Ape Beast wasn't as fug. Like you could sort of entertain the idea of sleeping with him and not regretting it. With Cat Beast I'd rather have him euthanized

Hm, I knew him only in blue form in the 90s, and he never stroke me as a "ape-man", more like a "blue beast-thing sorta".

Aguja, you only like characters you can sleep with ? Or what it the only appealing treat of Beast, the Big Hands ?

[mimic_616]

I'd choose Beast in a heart beat. The guys got the brains, skill, combat experience, heck he was even an Avenger!

Angel on the other hand has wings....'nuff said.

(P.S. No money dosen't count, if I want the Xavier Institute to have a swimming pool I'll save up like everyone else)

[HeckBoy]

Question, what do you hate about feline-form ? I mean, I prefer that to he generic kinda-animal form he had before, with the strange hair marvel seems to give to animal-like characters, even if I don't understand what is their inspiration.I don't like it from an aesthetic point of view. He's just been drawn very differently (I mean it's more than just your standard style shift) from artist to artist in his cat form, and the inconsistency just kinda bothers me. Truthfully, I prefer his original human-looking form and his agility powers with the big hands and feet. There are/were enough feline/feral mutants.

[Aguja]

Hm, I knew him only in blue form in the 90s, and he never stroke me as a "ape-man", more like a "blue beast-thing sorta".

Aguja, you only like characters you can sleep with ? Or what it the only appealing treat of Beast, the Big Hands ?

Well obviously they are fictional so I cannot really sleep with them. But yes, I prefer characters that allow me to entertain such an idea. Doesn't everyone?

[Shyft]

Doesn't everyone?

no, not really.

[Prodigy55]

no, not really.

I sure do!

[Joe Franklin]

Question, what do you hate about feline-form ? I mean, I prefer that to he generic kinda-animal form he had before, with the strange hair marvel seems to give to animal-like characters, even if I don't understand what is their inspiration.

Before the horrid Cat form, some of Hank's mutant powers were super agility, now he's a big clumsy oaf.

And since his Morrisionization, he has been written as a total bore, no more is he a positive jovial character, he's a brooding a-hole. No thanks.

I love Hank as a character, but in his Cat Form, as others have said, I'd rather he just be killed off. I'd rather have no Beast, then Cat Beast. Maybe if he's killed off, and if Marvel brings him back some day, he might come back in one of his ape like forms, blue or caucasian, either is fine .

[Pixie_Solanas]

I liked when he claimed to claim gay. Suuuure, Hank.

[DisasterKid]

ill be honest, when the feline beast was introduced i was so upset by the change i wanted to literally fight everything...like my desk or the nearby lamp.

but over time ive begun to like the change, i think due to a better overall design in recent months.. especially in Ghost Boxes. It made Hank look like the distinguished scientist, brain that he is, even if it was only a glimpse at an Alt. Universe.

All in all, I would pick Beast simply bc he's irreplaceable.

There are tons of other flying X-men i could choose from instead of Angel, but really only one Beast when it comes to his resourcefulness.

[Winghead]

They are both favorites of mine, but Beast has been so overexposed, being featured in Astonishing, and Uncanny. Angel on the other hand, is probably my all time favorite character. I hope they figure out a way to keep Angel as his normal persona, and Archangel his combat persona. I also hope he ends up being lighter in character as archangel like he did after a while the first time.

[The Black Guardian]

Well obviously they are fictional so I cannot really sleep with them. But yes, I prefer characters that allow me to entertain such an idea. Doesn't everyone?
Oh, gee... this concept really changes who I want on my Top 10 lists.:eek:

[Dagger]

Angel. Beast can die of syphilis for all I care.

[Nicoclaws]

Well obviously they are fictional so I cannot really sleep with them. But yes, I prefer characters that allow me to entertain such an idea. Doesn't everyone?

Nope. I like them but still... nope.

Before the horrid Cat form, some of Hank's mutant powers were super agility, now he's a big clumsy oaf.

And since his Morrisionization, he has been written as a total bore, no more is he a positive jovial character, he's a brooding a-hole. No thanks.

I love Hank as a character, but in his Cat Form, as others have said, I'd rather he just be killed off. I'd rather have no Beast, then Cat Beast. Maybe if he's killed off, and if Marvel brings him back some day, he might come back in one of his ape like forms, blue or caucasian, either is fine .

He's not that clumsy, look at him in Wedhon run. I think his "broodiness" is more linked to the writers, as usual.

[Babylon23]

If I was looking for a decent, useful and generally enjoyable character, then I'd sign up Beast. If I was looking for dull, pointless and bland cannon fodder than I'd sign up Angel.

[biscuit]

Beast by a country mile. Warren bores me to tears except when he's Archangel and that's only because he looks cool. I love Beast's dorky humor and what he brings to a team. I rather enjoyed Endangered Species and the science team is pretty cool in Uncanny at least to me.

Call me crazy but I actually like the cat form. I always thought he looked too much like Wolverine before especially with that hair cut.