Are you satisfied with the current Superman collections?

[Will.S]

I'm certainly not.

My main problem with DC's collected editions right now is that they will release them in thin hardcovers/trade paperbacks and just collect half of the story and sell it that way. Books like All Star Superman, Kurt Busiek's Superman, the Geoff Johns Bizarro arc (which needed supplemental Bizarro material to justify its size), Braniac, etc.

I would rather have a nice big chunk or a more well rounded compilation of these stories.

[dancj]

Yeah - unfortunately the comic industry seem to have decided that the standard size for TPBs should be 6 issues.

Personally I'd much prefer it if they were 8-15 issues long at a time - especially when a storyline is actually that long.

What's worse with the Superman books though is that they keep doing books with only 3 current issues and then pad it out with Silver Age reprints - That is despicable

[d newton]

What's worse with the Superman books though is that they keep doing books with only 3 current issues and then pad it out with Silver Age reprints - that is despicable
Explain to me why you think DC padding out hardcovers with SA reprints is despicable?

[BurningStarIV]

I was actually just coming to this forum to see if there was any chance that All-Star Superman would be collected in one deluxe hardcover. I imagine, even if they did, it'd be about the same price as the two individual hardcovers, but I don't see why it can't all be put in one book.

Unrelated really, but another example of DC's policy with collections: The Green Lantern Sinestro Corps War stuff was spread across three hardcovers, all of which could have very easily been collected in one or two deluxe hardcovers.

[Will.S]

I was actually just coming to this forum to see if there was any chance that All-Star Superman would be collected in one deluxe hardcover. I imagine, even if they did, it'd be about the same price as the two individual hardcovers, but I don't see why it can't all be put in one book.Maybe they'll put together a hardcover or Absolute.

Unrelated really, but another example of DC's policy with collections: The Green Lantern Sinestro Corps War stuff was spread across three hardcovers, all of which could have very easily been collected in one or two deluxe hardcovers.
Yeah I thought that was a bit excessive myself.

[Mat001]

"Back In Action" and "Escape From Bizarro's World" are three parters with Silver Age material added. But both stand out from the other books that they won't fit together well. That's why the Sliver and Bronze Age stories are added in. I enjoyed what "Back In Action" had because they were some classic team-up issues and since the main story was a team-up, it makes sense to have it. The other recent trades have either been six parters or a combination of stories with similar themes. And as noted, most of the industry does this as well. In the case of the "New Krypton" trades, there were three extra sized special issues on top of the standard sized ones. If they were put together in one trade, it'd probably cost twice what volume one does right now.

[jgiannantoni05]

I do not like the TPB/HC situation in DC now. (Don't know if Marvel is doing the same)

I hate the "HC first, then wait forever for softcover" approach. (For example, only now are the Sinestro Corp SCs seeing sale)

And I don't like the 6 issue/per tpb rule I agree that DC seems to have in place.

Sinestro Corp Saga could and should be collected in one or two trades. I have Return of Superman and Our Worlds at War in one easy volume. I'll pay a premium for one easy volume.

What will royally piss me off is when 5, 10, 15 years go by AND then the one volume release finally happens.
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[WorstThingUS]

I was actually just coming to this forum to see if there was any chance that All-Star Superman would be collected in one deluxe hardcover.

It's an inevitable Absolute and that's what I'm waiting for.

[dancj]

Explain to me why you think DC padding out hardcovers with SA reprints is despicable?
Because it means that anyone who is following the current Superman books in the TPBs is forced to by some other comics that they might already own or have no interest in.

It's the same as forcing someone who wants to buy the new Franz Ferdinand album to also buy the new Sugababes album.

[Mat001]

But on the flip side, there are those of us who never bought said issues.

[d newton]

Because it means that anyone who is following the current Superman books in the TPBs is forced to by some other comics that they might already own or have no interest in.
And you just missed the point completely - DC would get a lot of angry fans asking why the Bizarro HC had only 3 issues in it instead of 6.

[Will.S]

And you just missed the point completely - DC would get a lot of angry fans asking why the Bizarro HC had only 3 issues in it instead of 6.
I think in that case it would have been much easier to just package the Bizarro arc with any of the other arcs and just make the books less by arcs and more by volumes.

Just label it Action Comics collections or give it a Visionary style format similar to what they did with the Byrne Man of Steel trades. I'd be willing to pay $24.99 or $29.99 as long as it's adequately filled.

[dancj]

But on the flip side, there are those of us who never bought said issues.
But those of you might not want the newer issues. If they'd stuck those issues in one of those TPBs they occasionally do that collects various old stories, that's fine. It's forcing the people who want one set of stories to buy the others that I object to.

[dancj]

And you just missed the point completely - DC would get a lot of angry fans asking why the Bizarro HC had only 3 issues in it instead of 6.
I can't miss the point. It was my point.

The choices are simple
1 - do a cheap edition that's only three issues like Transmetropolitan v1
2 - Collect it with one of the other three issue storylines that couldn't fill a whole TPB by itself
3 - Just stick those three issues at the end of the previous volume or the beginning of the next volume rather than feeling this need to stick slavishly to 6 issues per TPB.

Any of those options would have been fine.

Frankly I'm gob-smacked that people are actually defending this rip-off.

[d newton]

1 - do a cheap edition that's only three issues like Transmetropolitan V1
Here was my response from earlier:
DC would get a lot of angry fans asking why the Bizarro HC had only 3 issues.

3 - Just stick those three issues at the end of the previous volume
Then people would ask why their copy of the 3-2-1 Action trade has got 3 issues that have nothing to do with it plus it has a different writer as well.

2 - Collect it with one of the other three issue storylines that couldn't fill a whole TPB.
See the comment for point 3.

[Mat001]

But those of you might not want the newer issues. If they'd stuck those issues in one of those TPBs they occasionally do that collects various old stories, that's fine. It's forcing the people who want one set of stories to buy the others that I object to.

Well, let's use me for example. I bought the single issues for "Bizarro's World" and didn't get the trade. So if you are aware that there is a three parter, then just get those issues for the next three months and then go for the trade when the next six parter hits.

On the other hand, maybe the person wants the new and the old material.

[rmyers1995]

I just bought the hardcover Superman: Brainiac and I love it! The art looks really awesome and brainiac is all buff in this one.

[Lemurion]

I don't like DC's collection policy at all.

The delays are bad enough, but what really kills things for me is the combination of price and content. I find most of their hardcovers are both too expensive and too thin.

I'm a fan of big thick books and I want my collections in one volume wherever possible. I also think they missed out some issues - the Legion collection would have been better if they had included the follow-up issue with Garth in the present.

[dancj]

Here was my response from earlier:
As long as they keep the price down to match the size of the book people wouldn't complain.

Then people would ask why their copy of the 3-2-1 Action trade has got 3 issues that have nothing to do with it plus it has a different writer as well.

See the comment for point 3.
There are plenty of TPBs which contain more than one storyline. I can't see why you think it would suddenly become a problem for this one - or why you think the same problem is somehow worse with three contemporary issues about the same character than it is with three unrelated stories from 30-40 years ago from a different continuity.

[dancj]

Well, let's use me for example. I bought the single issues for "Bizarro's World" and didn't get the trade. So if you are aware that there is a three parter, then just get those issues for the next three months and then go for the trade when the next six parter hits.
I could, but I don't want single issues.
On the other hand, maybe the person wants the new and the old material.
What person? Obviously there will be people out there who want both, but I'm talking about the multitude of people who just want one or the other.

[4thHorseman]

I buy a trade for the main story. I don't like all these other issues thrown in for higher sales purposes.

Oh, and I wouldn't mind more back arcs collected in trade. Happy that Ending Battle is coming out.

[d newton]

I can't see why you think it would suddenly become a problem for this one.
Where did I say it was a problem?

[rangaraj1987]

I am happy ,or let's just say, I am satisfied with the ending of Kara's story here. I am happy that she is out of the Phantom Zone and that she is safe and sound but given that I am happy that she is leaving too. Face it, Kara took away too much from Clark when she was around. She could fly where Clark couldn't. She seems ,if anything, more assertive than Clark does especially when the two are together. And finally she seems to be the one who saves the day, just like she did in the latest episode "Bloodline". I had hoped that this wouldn't happen that Kara would end up upstaging Clark but that is what happened anyway. Believe me LV was a fine version of Kara, but for the sake of the show's main character, Clark Kent, I am more than happy that she is leaving for parts unknown.
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[dancj]

Where did I say it was a problem?
Well you stated it as an argument against putting the TPBs together how I suggested.

[d newton]

Well, you stated it as an argument against putting the TPBs together how I suggested.
Because it was silly. If you take a look at the issues both before and after the Bizarro arc - 852 to 854 are 3 issues focusing in Jimmy Olsen and his relationship with Superman / 858 to 863 has 6 issues where Superman teaming up with the LSH, neither of those choices will make fans happy.