Can someone please summarize the New Krypton series for me

[frostedone]

I didn't read it, just bits an pieces.

What happens in it? How did it start? Why is that city back? Do the kryptonians know about Superman's life? Did they respect him? How did it end? Was Darkseid or any other high level threats involved?

What is going on now in Superman/Action Comics? Where is Superman?

Thanks.

[Samanthab]

been asking the same thing myself mate i'll watch out for this thread.

[Will.S]

I didn't read it, just bits an pieces.

What happens in it? How did it start? Why is that city back? Do the kryptonians know about Superman's life? Did they respect him? How did it end? Was Darkseid or any other high level threats involved?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Krypton

This has all of the info you need.

What is going on now in Superman/Action Comics? Where is Superman?

Thanks.
Mon-El, Steel, and Guardian are taking over for Superman in the Superman book while Nightwing and Flamebird are the stars of Action comics fighting Ursa.

[CYOTI]

I didn't read it, just bits an pieces.

What happens in it?


The remnants of Krypton adjust to being freed while Superman adjusts to the fact that he has found a whole new family while losing his father.


How did it start?
Was Darkseid or any other high level threats involved?
Why is that city back?
Superman finds Brainiac's original ship and body holding the remnants of Krypton and many other worlds. Due to the damage suffered by the bottle holding the leftovers of Krypton, he is forced to free the planet from its stasis.


Do the kryptonians know about Superman's life? Did they respect him? How did it end? Not well, the kryptonians are racists and xenophobes and isolationists. They leave the Earth and using a combination of Brainac's and Kryptonian technology they create another world on the opposite side of the sun.


What is going on now in Superman/Action Comics? Where is Superman?

Thanks. Superman is on New Krypton to keep an eye on General Zod freed by his aunt and Supergirl's mother.

In Action Comics, Chris Kent/Lor-Zod and Supergirl's friend Thara are hunting sleeper agents Zod planted on Earth during his imprisonment in the Phantom Zone.

Superman proper deals with the Guardian, Steel and Mon-el taking Superman's place as Guardians of Metropolis.

New Krypton deals with Superman on the New Krypton planet keeping an eye on Zod while forced to serve as one of his underlings.

[frostedone]

Thanks everyone.

So Superman is no longer on earth? How is Metropolis and the JL doing without him?

[Rev. Calibos]

Thanks everyone.

So Superman is no longer on earth? How is Metropolis and the JL doing without him?

The JL is falling apart as Black Canary has just disbanded the team.

Metropolis is under the protection of the Guardian and the Science Police and a newly rescued Mon-El.

[Captain Smith]

Anybody betting on how long these dudes get shuttled out of the solar system or killed?

I can't see 100,000 possible Supes on the other side of the system not radically changing the power balance.

I know it took 6 billion Daxamities to shoo Darkseid away once but all the crisises we have and universe endings would be different if 100, 000 Supes have the potential to arrive on Earth in seconds.

They have to be controlled.

[CYOTI]

Anybody betting on how long these dudes get shuttled out of the solar system or killed?

I can't see 100,000 possible Supes on the other side of the system not radically changing the power balance.

For the last time 100,000 Kryptonians =/= 100000Superman

They have his skillset, but none of them have the human upbringing that created Superman. So far they have all fallen short of him.

[frostedone]

For the last time 100,000 Kryptonians =/= 100000Superman

They have his skillset, but none of them have the human upbringing that created Superman. So far they have all fallen short of him.

True but in terms of power they are all comparable to Superman. Some may be weaker, some may be stronger.

On a related note, how did the knryptonians get to use their powers so fast? It took Superman years under a yellow sun until he got his powers.

[livin_target]

True but in terms of power they are all comparable to Superman. Some may be weaker, some may be stronger.

On a related note, how did the knryptonians get to use their powers so fast? It took Superman years under a yellow sun until he got his powers.

Because the writers say so :tongue:

I think the newest "origins" (read as flashbacks in Action/Superman) hint at Clark acquiring his powers at an earlier age. IIRC we've already seen Clark casually lifting up fridges and stuff when he was only a kid, so maybe Kryptonians process yellow sun radiation quicker these days- who knows? It's more to do with the story and to show how unique Superman really is: Everybody on New Krypton is his physical equal yet he's been able to outclass everyone as he's built up years of experience as a hero. it makes a nice change from the portrayals of Superman turning into an incompetant boob when he's faced with a situation where he's portrayed as everybodies equal (such as him being depowered).

Anybody betting on how long these dudes get shuttled out of the solar system or killed?

I can't see 100,000 possible Supes on the other side of the system not radically changing the power balance.

I'm betting at least some of them leave alive. I think it was mentioned in some of the new legion stuff (I think Supergirl's legion but I'm not 100% sure) that the kryptonians had managed to repopulate another planet by the 31st century, so either things are going to get really awkward between Superman and his cousin or some of them are going to leave alive (or it'll be disregarded as it looks like Supergirl's legion belongs to a different timeline/universe to the current DC universe with Superman's legion being the "proper" one).

[Name Already Taken]

Thanks everyone.

So Superman is no longer on earth? How is Metropolis and the JL doing without him?


Spoil start for what is currently going on in various titles:
Guardian (of the Science Police) and Mon-el from LoS are protecting the city for now in Superman while Clark is gallivanting around New Krypton on the other side of the Sun in our Solar system. Clark let out Mon-el from the Phantom Zone and told him to watch the place while he was gone.

In Action, a new Nightwing and Flamebird (from Krypton lore) are hunting down 'plants' still loyal to Zod and Ursa who have infiltrated various places of power and control on Earth. Nightwing is an aged Chris Kent, Flamebird is Thara Ak-Var. Both have new powers not available to most normal Kryptonians (like pyrokineses and tactile telekinesis) and are battling Ursa in the latest issue.

Supergirl was fighting the Superwoman in the last issue I read a month or two ago. There is still debate on who Superwoman is (possibly human).

End. You could just read the wikipedia entry like you probably have by now. That is more succinct. I would at least catch a few back issues if you have the cash for the new krypton arc. Above is only what is currently going on in the books. Rucka/Johns/Gates along with the artistic teams on each title are doing a decent job.

[Captain Smith]

My point was that New Krypton generated a force level that is incompatible with the typical DC event.

All kinds of story lines were developed to control Daxam.

Also, the human upbringing makes Supes noble and the Kryptonians are nasties just furthers my view that we will be rid of them in some fashion.

While the story may be interesting, as far as Supes being special - that's all gone. So he's a nice 34 year old guy who is heroic and saves puppies. Plenty of similar heroes around.

[CYOTI]

My point was that New Krypton generated a force level that is incompatible with the typical DC event. In the DCU you have got 7200+ GLs, the Guardians of the Universe, the New Gods and the Monitors. Several hundred thousand Kryptonians is nothing!!

While the story may be interesting, as far as Supes being special - that's all gone. So he's a nice 34 year old guy who is heroic and saves puppies. Plenty of similar heroes around. Then I'm sorry to say that you know next to nothing about Superman if you think that the powerset is all that defines him.

[CYOTI]

I'm betting at least some of them leave alive. I think it was mentioned in some of the new legion stuff (I think Supergirl's legion but I'm not 100% sure) that the kryptonians had managed to repopulate another planet by the 31st century, so either things are going to get really awkward between Superman and his cousin or some of them are going to leave alive (or it'll be disregarded as it looks like Supergirl's legion belongs to a different timeline/universe to the current DC universe with Superman's legion being the "proper" one).
The Threeboot reality is no longer the future of the DCU so that story doesn't apply.

[MythicBrawn]

While the story may be interesting, as far as Supes being special - that's all gone. So he's a nice 34 year old guy who is heroic and saves puppies. Plenty of similar heroes around.

Agree with this. At this point all Supes has is his experience and no matter how good he is, I doubt he could take down a whole planet. And Batman isn't around, so he can't fall back on him. I wonder if Batman could beat a planet full of Kryptonians? Of course he could, he's Batman and with proper planning on his part and no, or minimal, planning on the adversary's part, he can beat anybody.

[Captain Smith]

CY - glad to think you are arbitrator of knowledge but you seem remarkedly dense about my point.

7200 GLs for a universe that is about 13 billion light years wide with billions of stars and galaxies is not impressive. In fact, it is another discussion about how the DCU really handles cosmology and scale of the universe.

I will explain it slowly - periodically in the DCU some bad crap happens around Earth (as it seems to be for some funny reason the center of all!). A sun eater - an Antimonitor, Darkseid, an invasion by various races to take over Earth, etc. etc.

A small band of heroes, including one or two Kryptonians, carries the day. However, having a 100, 000 Kryptonians, who perhaps, don't have the charming personality of Supes, gives our Solar system a potential of firepower that daunts many of these attacks.

So, dear CY - my issue was balance of force - not your love of Supes as a person.

I hope I simplified this enough for you.

[Lorendiac]

CY - glad to think you are arbitrator of knowledge but you seem remarkedly dense about my point.

7200 GLs for a universe that is about 13 billion light years wide with billions of stars and galaxies is not impressive. In fact, it is another discussion about how the DCU really handles cosmology and scale of the universe.

I will explain it slowly - periodically in the DCU some bad crap happens around Earth (as it seems to be for some funny reason the center of all!). A sun eater - an Antimonitor, Darkseid, an invasion by various races to take over Earth, etc. etc.

A small band of heroes, including one or two Kryptonians, carries the day. However, having a 100, 000 Kryptonians, who perhaps, don't have the charming personality of Supes, gives our Solar system a potential of firepower that daunts many of these attacks.

So, dear CY - my issue was balance of force - not your love of Supes as a person.

I hope I simplified this enough for you.

That's about what I thought you meant originally. The typical New Kryptonian may know darn well that in any given hour of the day on Planet Earth, one stupid, ignorant, weak, barbaric human is killing another stupid, weak, ignorant, barbaric human for some foolish reason or other. But he doesn't lose much sleep over this; no more than I lose much sleep over the idea that somewhere in the real world, a couple of ant colonies may be at war with one another.

So Joker and Two-Face and Mr. Freeze, for instance, don't need to be too worried that the next time they rob a bank or whatever, one or more of 100,000 New Kryptonians will swoop down and apprehend them a split-second after the alarm is sounded. Just as they never had to worry much about some random GL interfering with their fun (although I'm sure it actually happened, once in a blue moon).

But if some dangerous outside force came along -- something planning to blow up the Earth, or place all its denizens under the influence of a Starro-like alien, or snuff out the sun, or whatever -- then the New Kryptonians might get sufficiently annoyed to take drastic measures, on the grounds that while humans may be a whiny, useless bunch, at least they are largely harmless to anyone with Superman-level powers and thus may be safely ignored 99.99 percent of the time; whereas the latest Cosmic Invasion or whatever might prove to be much more of a nuisance if left unchecked.

I guess we could think of it as the 21st Century DCU's updated version of the Monroe Doctrine:

1. Other Great Powers from elsewhere in this cosmos or any other cosmos are not allowed to mess around in our back yard -- which is defined as this entire Solar System, including the pathetic slum planet known as "Earth."

2. But we are allowed to mess around in it all we want!

3. Test our resolve on this matter, and you will die!

[Mat001]

The Kryptonians don't care about the universe, much less Earth. Only Superman, Supergirl, Nightwing and Flamebird care about mankind, much less everyone else in the galaxy. So at this point, the Kryptonians are not going to go around doing what Clark has done for much of his life. Much less what Kara has done for three and a half years. In Action Comics #871, Commander Gor and Lieutenant Mur were among the citizens of Metropolis when a car accident occured. People were expecting them to act like Superman, but instead they flew off to the Fortress. They didn't show one iota of compassion for humanity. Instead, they used their powers for their own needs. Clark was raised to be Superman and Clark inspired Kara to carry on that tradition. The Kryptonians as a whole have been rather self-absorbed for years, dating back to a time long before the planet's destruction. Jor-El, Zor-El and Lara were among the minority who felt compassion for all living beings and would do their best to try and protect others if they had powers.

So in the end, there will not be a power shift. Whatever happens by the time this arc concludes, the matter will be dealt with in such a way that it will be logical and won't upset the balance.

[CYOTI]

However, having a 100, 000 Kryptonians, who perhaps, don't have the charming personality of Supes, gives our Solar system a potential of firepower that daunts many of these attacks.
There is a better chance of the Kryptonians conquering Earth than what you describe happening. The Kryptonians don't like aliens including humans. helping their inferiors isn't in their interest especially when they blame humans for the death of their leader and their forced exile to an almost lifeless world.

[Captain Smith]

Cultures and world views change. The Japanese were isolationist and then came out to deal with the world economy and tried to conquer everything in SE Asia for a bit. Who knows how the Kryptonians will deal with things in the future.

My point is that despite local Kryptonian polices - you have a 100,000 member gorilla so to speak in the local environment. They may or may not do XY or Z but if you mess around Earth - unless you have PIS, you have to consider them.

I don't think DC will let that stand. Simple point.

[Mat001]

Actually, that should be if you mess with New Krypton, the Kryptonians will open a can of whup ass. They could care less about Earth. And from the looks of things, Krypton will try to conquer Earth before it decides to become its champions like Superman, Supergirl, Nightwing and Flamebird. Especially if Zod plans a coup de tat to gain control from the House of El.