CBR: Matt Fraction Talks Uncanny X-Men

[CBR News]

The mysterious Red Queen has finally begun her full-scale assault on the X-Men. so CBR spoke with writer Matt Fraction about what's next for "Uncanny X-Men," including the debut of the Dark X-Men.


Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20846).

[just another user]

oh, it looks like Psylocke survived after all.

I also spot Surge, Sunspot, Dagger, Dazzler, Pixie, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Storm, Warpath, Beast, Scott and Emma.

The Red Queen is obviously Jean and not Maddy.

[NewMutant]

oh, it looks like Psylocke survived after all.

I also spot Surge, Sunspot, Dagger, Dazzler, Pixie, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Storm, Warpath, Beast, Scott and Emma.

The Red Queen is obviously Jean and not Maddy.

Looks like Pixie found her way back from Limbo and has recovered enough to perform with Dazzler.

I don't think the Red Queen is Jean. But it would be a twist is it were. I still think shes Hope.

[Agent_Torpor]

Yanick Paquette? Science Team one-shot? There's an extra 2.99 in my pocket that would otherwise be going towards my comic budget.

[just another user]

Yanick Paquette? Science Team one-shot? There's an extra 2.99 in my pocket that would otherwise be going towards my comic budget.

Try 3.99 10101

[Waterlily]

<3 the bit where Psylocke is drooling on herself.

[Lunal]

This is really getting interesting. Dark X-Men is a whole heck of a better concept than Dark Avengers.

[Waterlily]

I wonder which of the Dark X-Men was Emma's pick.

[Anna]

oh, it looks like Psylocke survived after all.

I also spot Surge, Sunspot, Dagger, Dazzler, Pixie, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Storm, Warpath, Beast, Scott and Emma.

Ter Red Queen is obviously Jean and not Maddy.

Spotting them is easy. having them acually do something is the tricky part.

I wonder if this happens before or after Surge's abduction.

OMFG! Dagger's "X" is on her crotch! ROTFLMAO! Guess that really is Cloak though.

[ExodusCloak]

I wonder which of the Dark X-Men was Emma's pick.

Namor probably.

So I take it Emma will have no choice but to flush Scott down Normans toilet??? Whoopee...

[We R. Venom]

So glad i dropped this. Still glad.

[Novaya Havoc]

I swear. There is no way Fraction can not piss me off. Or even Uncanny's editors. What the hell is this BENJAMIN BUTTON'S SHIT?!

My hate is approaching and surpassing Austen and Claremont levels, to the point where I actively hate those writers less.

[oneshyguy46]

http://comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/uncannyxmen/508/UNCX509018_col.jpg

Is this suppose to be Dazzler?? (next to Angel)

[timbox]

Those Russian sex slaves are really young!

[Askani's Flame]

.I don't think the Red Queen is Jean. But it would be a twist is it were. I still think shes Hope.

I also don't believe the Red Queen is Jean. I think that since she is magickally driven, she is just the manifestation of the "Goblin Queen" aspect of Maddie. The rest, or good parts of Maddie, are not there.

I'm interested in what's going to happen with Psylocke. I also wonder if it's supposed to be Kavita Rao on the cover to 512 and not Psylocke.

[Porcelain]

I wonder which of the Dark X-Men was Emma's pick.
I'm wondering why Norman would pick Xavier.

[Novaya Havoc]

I love Greg Land pages because I can never tell what's going on. This page, in particular, is glorious. I believe I shall Fraption it.

[Shyft]

I swear. There is no way Fraction can not piss me off. Or even Uncanny's editors. What the hell is this BENJAMIN BUTTON'S SHIT?!

My hate is approaching and surpassing Austen and Claremont levels, to the point where I actively hate those writers less.

It does seem like he has read your blog, and is doing things like TALKING about putting more interesting women in the book, just to piss you off.

[NewMutant]

I also don't believe the Red Queen is Jean. I think that since she is magickally driven, she is just the manifestation of the "Goblin Queen" aspect of Maddie. The rest, or good parts of Maddie, are not there.

I'm interested in what's going to happen with Psylocke. I also wonder if it's supposed to be Kavita Rao on the cover to 512 and not Psylocke.

I think its Psylocke.. its definitely purple hair... but it does look like her asian body. maybe she gets switched back?

[Red Lotus]

Namor probably.

So I take it Emma will have no choice but to flush Scott down Normans toilet??? Whoopee...

Or Xavier. I just dont see why Norman would want him on the team. If he is on there then Norman has some way to block his mind from being read.

[Joe Acro]

Uncanny seems to be getting terribly crowded.

[jarrod]

I wonder which of the Dark X-Men was Emma's pick.
Namor seems like the natural pick, but I'm thinking Xavier for some reason...


I swear. There is no way Fraction can not piss me off. Or even Uncanny's editors. What the hell is this BENJAMIN BUTTON'S SHIT?!

My hate is approaching and surpassing Austen and Claremont levels, to the point where I actively hate those writers less.
lol. When I read all the "more strong women" mandates, I immediately thought of you.

[Porcelain]

I think its Psylocke.. its definitely purple hair... but it does look like her asian body. maybe she gets switched back?
Issue also involves time travel to the past...with Warren & Betsy stood next to each other. So early to call, could go anyway.

[protege]

I'm really not clear if this crossover with Dark Avengers is supposed to take place in the regular books, or in a miniseries.

[ExodusCloak]

I'm really not clear if this crossover with Dark Avengers is supposed to take place in the regular books, or in a miniseries.

It takes place in Dark Avengers and Uncanny X-Men. I think #6, 7 & 8 of Dark Avengers and 513, 514 and 515 or Uncanny I think.

[The Thunderbird]

I also don't believe the Red Queen is Jean. I think that since she is magickally driven, she is just the manifestation of the "Goblin Queen" aspect of Maddie. The rest, or good parts of Maddie, are not there.

I'm interested in what's going to happen with Psylocke. I also wonder if it's supposed to be Kavita Rao on the cover to 512 and not Psylocke.

I heard Fraction said on a Newsarama interview that the Red Queen only THINKS she is Maddie, so it can't be one of her personalities.

[jarrod]

It takes place in Dark Avengers and Uncanny X-Men. I think #6, 7 & 8 of Dark Avengers and 513, 514 and 515 or Uncanny I think.
I think there's also going to be a standalone lead in for the crossover (a la Messiah Complex/War).

[Imraith Nimphais]

In theory, these various plots want to sound interesting...but we all know, the execution is going to be as drab as ten-days old porridge and just as unsightly and un-palatable.
No thank you, not interested.

[jarrod]

Maybe it's Margali?

[Joe Acro]

I think there's also going to be a standalone lead in for the crossover (a la Messiah Complex/War).
There is, in fact. It's called Dark Avengers/Uncanny X-Men: Utopia.

Written by Fraction and drawn by Silvestri.

[Hakael]

So Fraction wants to simplify Psylocke... by resurrecting her original body and switching her back, even though most casual fans know her only in her Asian body? And how is this process less confusing?

I'm confused, I think I need an adult.

[ExodusCloak]

So Fraction wants to simplify Psylocke... by resurrecting her original body and switching her back, even though most casual fans know her only in her Asian body? And how is this process less confusing?

I'm confused, I think I need an adult.

Well Kwannon is out of the equation as well as the Jamie's tampering with her body.

That stuff about body switching need never be brought up ever again.

[yanapryde]

This $#%@ is WACK!!

WHERE is the continuity ?
I mean, Pixie just skipped out on the rest of the X-crew in Limbo....ditched to have herself a good cry and whatever....so what...she just came home and nobody addresses it?

And....by the look of the 'action' scene....the Illusion-Bitches are making the XHQ look like a dungeon. And separating various X-ers with 'walls'.
OOooooooh.

And HEY...whats up with Surge? She's all kidnapped !
This $#%# is WACK!!!

[ExodusCloak]

This $#%@ is WACK!!

WHERE is the continuity ?
I mean, Pixie just skipped out on the rest of the X-crew in Limbo....ditched to have herself a good cry and whatever....so what...she just came home and nobody addresses it?

And....by the look of the 'action' scene....the Illusion-Bitches are making the XHQ look like a dungeon. And separating various X-ers with 'walls'.
OOooooooh.

And HEY...whats up with Surge? She's all kidnapped !
This $#%# is WACK!!!

Think this takes place before X-Infernus, otherwise Colossus would be spending more time with Illyana then the Girls from the crate.

[Novaya Havoc]

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[NewMutant]

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I don't think thats Angel though.. It looks like two different people. but I can see where it looks like wings.

[HVulpes]

With Namor being Emma's Pick...

It might make sense that he's Norman's eyes on the team to make sure the team is doing what he wants them to do. Xavier seems more like a wild card as he is one of the most powerful telepaths in the world, one of the most skilled telepaths and former member of the Illuminati. It makes sense in that he is the one working for mutant/human co-existence, but he knows things and can learn things which can be used against Osborn.

Thoughts?

[Joe Acro]

I don't think thats Angel though.. It looks like two different people. but I can see where it looks like wings.
I agree. It's someone in a generic white T-shirt and someone with a brown trenchcoat.

[Imraith Nimphais]

LOL...Novaya, you are my nominee fer poster of the month...just so you know.

[yanapryde]

MY MISTAKE....

After further scrutiny of Mr.Land's illustrations, I've come to the conclusion that the "Pixie Fight Scene" takes place in the DANGER ROOM.

It would appear that Pixie is fighting a computer generated opponent resembling that of a Hellfire Cult member....and she appears to be going a little too far as observed by Beast and Wolverine.


Again: My apologies. I got too excited. This is clearly POST Infernus.
Although I don't anticipate any Illyana, and I'm okay with it.
I choose to believe a little Rasputin sibling catch up time takes place off panel.

Still doesn't explain Surge though.

[Sunbird]

Again: My apologies. I got too excited. This is clearly POST Infernus.
Although I don't anticipate any Illyana, and I'm okay with it.
I choose to believe a little Rasputin sibling catch up time takes place off panel.

Or possibly on the pages of New Mutants?

[Ugoff]

Isn't Chimera supposed to be dead? I like how the characters look but I haven't read an X-book in years. I was considering following this story for a few seconds until I read the article. I must admit it does seem like this will just make things more confusing continuity wise.

[yanapryde]

I'm guessing there is a considerable amount of "catch up" to be had.

I believe Fraction MIGHT be doing a recap of sorts of the most recent X activity condensed into a few pages.
The concert scene for example: illustrating Pixie's previous activities (pre infernus) and then showing Nightcrawler perched by himself....possibly to show his feelings of inadequacy, alienating himself from the group. Emma's attempts to continue tutelage and of course, Scotts reinforcement of positive mutant P.R. by having various X-ers smack down on the Cali-crime-scene.


Of course, this is al speculation, given there isn't any text to go by.
I'm possibly reading too much into things.

[Sunbird]

I'm guessing there is a considerable amount of "catch up" to be had.

I believe Fraction MIGHT be doing a recap of sorts of the most recent X activity condensed into a few pages.
The concert scene for example: illustrating Pixie's previous activities (pre infernus) and then showing Nightcrawler perched by himself....possibly to show his feelings of inadequacy, alienating himself from the group. Emma's attempts to continue tutelage and of course, Scotts reinforcement of positive mutant P.R. by having various X-ers smack down on the Cali-crime-scene.


Of course, this is al speculation, given there isn't any text to go by.
I'm possibly reading too much into things.
Apparently Colossus is too busy getting ready to fight Mel Gibson in the Thunderdome to talk to his sister!

The whole sequence smacks of a post fight montage (like at the end of a particularly dragging everyone through the ringer episode of Buffy. It probably will have a Fray song playing in the background. Scott or Emma will probably do some talk over stuff that leads into Dark X-Men.

[yanapryde]

Anyone suppose that VERY brief shot of Surge MIGHT depict her capture.

Again, all speculation here but, I'm a bit fuzzy as to what is happening in that scene.
She's running and then.....everything gets all blurry and she looks surprised maybe? Maybe that scene explains her having been drugged and taken captive?

Maybe?
I'm grasping at straws now, aren't I ?

[alf_to_the_rescue]

Anyone suppose that VERY brief shot of Surge MIGHT depict her capture.

Again, all speculation here but, I'm a bit fuzzy as to what is happening in that scene.
She's running and then.....everything gets all blurry and she looks surprised maybe? Maybe that scene explains her having been drugged and taken captive?

Maybe?
I'm grasping at straws now, aren't I ?

The uncanny arc takes place before infernus and the arc in x-force. its simple enough.

[yanapryde]

The uncanny arc takes place before infernus and the arc in x-force. its simple enough.

I guess it HAS TO since Wolverine is present.
At least, its gotta be PRE-X-Force drama.
Its possible its after Infernus though.

[alf_to_the_rescue]

I disagree.

How do we know this?

We don't. We can choose to assume or not. Also, I know she is dead, but everytime they mention the red queen i think of the Red queen from X-Man.

[Vivica Kang09]

Im okay with Emma and cyclops...but Norman???:mad: WTF!!! I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING THIS WAS GOING TO BE EMMA'S TEAM TO TAKE ON NORMAN AND HE WAS GOING TO GET THE DARK AVENGERS TO FACE OFF ON EMMA'S TEAM!!!:mad: and i thought it was gonna show the X-force drama to the x-men....but im not gonna whine i hope they kill norman!! (But sisterhood looks good...)

[KrullWall]

I guess it HAS TO since Wolverine is present.
At least, its gotta be PRE-X-Force drama.
Its possible its after Infernus though.

ANYTHING is possible. I liked the capture theory... i was hoping the same thing. probably not tho

[CMBMOOL]

Wow so it's revealed that Emma's leading the Dark X-men, so that's 3 Marvel teams under the Cabel's thumb. :biggrin:

I mean who would have thought that Charles would side with Norman and not Scott.

Also the Preview for the next issue are good in terms of art. :tongue:

[Aguja]

http://comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/uncannyxmen/508/UNCX509018_col.jpg

Is this suppose to be Dazzler?? (next to Angel)

<3 I love that Chimera is now Psylocke's master. Though I hope she does not hurt Dazzler :frown:

[yanapryde]

<3 I love that Chimera is now Psylocke's master. Though I hope she does not hurt Dazzler :frown:

how is she psylocke's master?

[Somebody]

Land rarely ceases to amaze me, even now. He couldn't even have found a pic of an Japanese woman to trace for the left side of that cover?! The only structural difference between the sides is the hair colour - the "Asian" half is just has more eye shadow.

[Aguja]

how is she psylocke's master?

Psylocke is clearly following her like a slave.

[darknessatnoon]

#1 No one cares about x-anus and where it fits into "continuity."

#2 Maddie was eaten by the Red Queen ages ago. Red Queen is the alternate reality Jean Grey (the Dark Phoenix who was killed in 127).

#3 They took Psylocke's rat infested dead body and moved a tramp psi into it just to show that Maddie can do the same with Jean's body and claim it (and all its power) for her own.

Jean Grey sucks, ergo this story sucks for making reference to her.

[peopleofpaper]

Yanick Paquette? Science Team one-shot? There's an extra 2.99 in my pocket that would otherwise be going towards my comic budget.

i feel you. the science team is my least favorite storyline in Uncanny.

Land rarely ceases to amaze me, even now. He couldn't even have found a pic of an Japanese woman to trace for the left side of that cover?! The only structural difference between the sides is the hair colour - the "Asian" half is just has more eye shadow.

seriously! it looks like the same girl with slightly darker hair. at least he could have made the Asian side with straight slick hair like Asian Psylocke was usually drawn, but he made it more voluminous.

i'm eating this stuff up though. i hope so much that they just keep her in her british body. the girl on the cover of 512 can be kwannon. i know it's not likely but i just want them to cut us a break and leave her in one body already.

[cgar]

HA it is still Psylocke. aww thats too bad. who didnt see that coming.oh wait. thats right

[Vivica Kang09]

Personally i hate too see two psylocke's!!!!!!:rolleyes: But i hope she joins the x-club because they are waistin panels!!!:eek:

[nightw1ng]

Psylocke is clearly following her like a slave.the brown hair and costume makes her out to be one of the mastermind sisters, not psylocke

[nightw1ng]

oh, and this arc takes place after x-infernus since pixie's soul dagger is red instead of white

[eurazn]

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LOLZ! Now at least THIS made for an interesting read!

<3 I love that Chimera is now Psylocke's master. Though I hope she does not hurt Dazzler :frown:

Don't worry, that girl is probably DAGGER. Several things may happen to her: a) she will be rendered unconscious (off-panel); b) she will eat cereal; c) she will serve coffee.

As for Dazzler, she is too busy being panel dressing at a concert again to actually take part in a battle.

[Flameworthy]

So I got my hopes up yet again and Kwannon is not coming back. Great.


As for Dazzler, she is too busy being panel dressing at a concert again to actually take part in a battle.

This pisses me off even more. I think I'm just gonna give up on this book.

[Leirus]

Various Lols.

They can make Psylocke able to change between her ninja-Kwannon and Original-british bodies back and forth, so she can hook up with evil Archangel when ninja and with Warren when british... She could store the unused body in the refrigerator.

That would be so corny that I would love it !




Psss, no, I really would not


So, the plan here is resurrect Jean rotten corpse and then make thre Red Queen posses it?. Hence that cover with Jean´s body rising of the tomb ?

Ah, but Jean´s body is not in that tomb anymore, It dissapeared above Lake Alkali... Land himself was drawing that, he should know...

[Novaya Havoc]

Various Lols.

They can make Psylocke able to change between her ninja-Kwannon and Original-british bodies back and forth, so she can hook up with evil Archangel when ninja and with Warren when british... She could store the unused body in the refrigerator.

That would be so corny that I would love it !




Psss, no, I really would not

I would. That's f'in brilliant.

[darknessatnoon]

Various Lols.

They can make Psylocke able to change between her ninja-Kwannon and Original-british bodies back and forth, so she can hook up with evil Archangel when ninja and with Warren when british... She could store the unused body in the refrigerator.

That would be so corny that I would love it !



Psss, no, I really would not

This is a really amazing idea.

[MIMIC616]

I hope the Mimic is Emma's pick.

However - Mimic, Omega, Cloak & Dagger, Namor, and Emma seem to be Norman's likely choices making Xavier Emma choice.

Heck - emma, xavier, and mimic could telepathically find out what on Norman's mind.

[Aguja]

Don't worry, that girl is probably DAGGER. Several things may happen to her: a) she will be rendered unconscious (off-panel); b) she will eat cereal; c) she will serve coffee.



Perhaps in an attempt to be more female friendly Fraction will showcase her doing ALL of those things. It would be groundbreaking character development.

[MIMIC616]

Loving the art though.

[Leirus]

You both scare me ! Pss, Darkness, I think you are right about the whole "Red Queen from alternate reality posessing dead Jean´s body".

That sounds horrible.

[Vivica Kang09]

You both scare me ! Pss, Darkness, I think you are right about the whole "Red Queen from alternate reality posessing dead Jean´s body".

That sounds horrible.

I HOPE ITS NOT!!!:eek: LET ME HOPE FOR A TWIST!!!!:evilsmile:

[Steven F.]

I know it isn't the "in" thing to do here, but I am going to be honest. The last issue was really good, and I think this issue looks even better. I am looking forward to it.

[americocaine]

so they're still playing with Psylocke. and how is this NOT convoluted, you ask? whatever..dark x-men is also shit. not falling for the bait. xavier's mind is so warped, he'd follow Groot if he were leading HAMMER.

[Novaya Havoc]

I know it isn't the "in" thing to do here, but I am going to be honest. The last issue was really good, and I think this issue looks even better. I am looking forward to it.

I cannot tell what is GOING ON!!!!!!!!!! in these preview pages! GOSH! We can't even figure out if it's Dazzler with the big rainbow spork or not! And who is the random brown-hair guy above the rainbow spork? WHY IS THE ART SO TERRIBLE?!

Why is Fraction adding 3623 new sensational characters to every issue, only to drop them immediately?

Why should Fraction get a pass for stealing Claremont's elegant Psylocke stories when we all despised CC for it before?

NO!

[nightw1ng]

I cannot tell what is GOING ON!!!!!!!!!! in these preview pages! GOSH! We can't even figure out if it's Dazzler with the big rainbow spork or not! And who is the random brown-hair guy above the rainbow spork? WHY IS THE ART SO TERRIBLE?!

Why is Fraction adding 3623 new sensational characters to every issue, only to drop them immediately?

Why should Fraction get a pass for stealing Claremont's elegant Psylocke stories when we all despised CC for it before?

NO!
i can't tell if you're just parodying or not. as far as the brown haired guy, it's empath.

and yes, this latest body transfer adds another convolution to psylocke, but since it basically resets her character, the past complications need never be spoken of again.

[Leogam]

Maybe the Red Queen is actually a "Queen Jean" Grey from another alternate reality that appeared in the last couple of issues of X-Men ?? In addition I was surprised Fraction didnt mention anything about Aurora, and if she was going to join her bro, personally I dont care if she dies Northstar is the better character

[Agent_Torpor]

Maybe the Red Queen is actually a "Queen Jean" Grey from another alternate reality that appeared in the last couple of issues of X-Men ?? In addition I was surprised Fraction didnt mention anything about Aurora, and if she was going to join her bro, personally I dont care if she dies Northstar is the better character

DIAF. your post is non-canon.

Fraction has shown he's full of crap. He's touting his strong-female agenda in Uncanny and then bypassing one of the more intriguing females in the x-verse with Aurora - who has the same speedster power that Fraction's been yapping about with Northstar and his needed role in the X-men. He just wants to get his rocks off and write hetero-cum-homo innuendo for Jean-Paul.

[darknessatnoon]

Maybe the Red Queen is actually a "Queen Jean" Grey from another alternate reality that appeared in the last couple of issues of X-Men ??

Hello, I just said that.

[XaviersMisprint]

i can't tell if you're just parodying or not. as far as the brown haired guy, it's empath.

and yes, this latest body transfer adds another convolution to psylocke, but since it basically resets her character, the past complications need never be spoken of again.

I'm under the impression that its Northstar. That would make more sense.

[jarrod]

Hello, I just said that.
But then why would she want to be poured into 616 Jean?

[darknessatnoon]

But then why would she want to be poured into 616 Jean?

Read my speculation thread! She got banished. She wants her POWAH back. What better way to suck energy out of the multiverse than to do it via all of Jean's adoring sucker readers who are clamoring for her return?

[The Unholy Dragon]

I'm still missing the part where Maddie's dead.

Is X-Man suddenly out of continuity now?

Strangely, I thought the same thing about Stryfe.

[Wind Rider]

He's been on a mission to bring more women into Uncanny..... he can't properly write the ones that he has. I guess the Russian prostitutes was a part of that mission.

Let me know when Fraction is officially off all things dealing with X-Men. He's really doing yet another Phoenix story.... because that's what Red Queen is after, the frickin' Phoenix!.... there's no other reason to want to raise Jean Grey from the dead... but to get control of the Phoenix... and who cares?

I was really hoping the Sisterhood arc would be good with Psylocke's return, now I'm hoping the DA/X-Men crossover will be good..... oh, but Fraction is writing it.

And what the heck does he have Storm doing in her one panel? I hope her panel has nothing to do with Colossus at a Raiders game. Can't tell who some of the characters are that Land had drawn.... wow, he really is THAT awful.

Continuity? I have no clue when any of this is taking place. Pixie is all "fierce" now with her new little soul dagger with the bloodstone in it. Surge is out and about. I know that events aren't taking place simultaneously across the books, but it looks like Uncanny is trying to keep up with satellite titles when it should be Uncanny driving the other books..... what a mess!

[Slung]

Read my speculation thread! She got banished. She wants her POWAH back. What better way to suck energy out of the multiverse than to do it via all of Jean's adoring sucker readers who are clamoring for her return?

STHU and DIAF.

The real question of course is: WHERE THE HELL IS SHE GOING TO GET JEAN'S BODY? It was resurrected by Land's porn drawings like four years ago and currently sexes up the WHR.

[darknessatnoon]

STHU and DIAF.

The real question of course is: WHERE THE HELL IS SHE GOING TO GET JEAN'S BODY? It was resurrected by Land's porn drawings like four years ago and currently sexes up the WHR.

I think the White Hot Room should be the name of a gay club. What do you think? Threadworthy?

[Josef F.]

I think the White Hot Room should be the name of a gay club. What do you think? Threadworthy?

I could make it. It would be very successful.

[peopleofpaper]

i can't tell if you're just parodying or not. as far as the brown haired guy, it's empath.

and yes, this latest body transfer adds another convolution to psylocke, but since it basically resets her character, the past complications need never be spoken of again.

that's empath? i thought it was northstar. the guys have the same look just like the women.

[pariah-1972]

I don't understand why we need another Jean look alike when he could have just brought back Maddie.

I also don't understand why he dropped the Sisterhood plot for so many issues just to revisit it again.

[pariah-1972]

I believe Matt Fraction says that that is Maddie and also in this interview about midway down my friend, he says it had to be put off so Maddie could gather her pieces. He also said we would get to see why she needed to set it all up the way she did.We must have read a different interview because he stated it was not Maddie at all.

[Perfection/Emma 2]

Theirs ALOT of characters in the next book. All Fraction needs to give me now is Rogue, Monet, Asp, Kiden, Shatterstar, Anole, Dust, Pulse, Omega Sentinel, Shadow Cat, and Dani Doom and I buy all his books,even if they are crap as some people say. Also I cannot wait for the sisterhood versus X-Men fight scene, Marti better kick some mutha loving ass

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Well, well, well.

My initial Dark X-Men assumption (being Norman's b**ches or pretending to be) was right rather than the whole 'the team's sole purpose is to save everyone else' bandwagon

[pariah-1972]

He called her the Red Queen a lot in this one but I believe in past interviews he has made it clear that it is indeed Maddie Pryor.Reading Comprehension.
“Poor Maddy is still dead,” Fraction told CBR News, addressing fan speculation. “I think she was consumed by the Red Queen. Nobody said Maddy was coming back. The Red Queen is back and Maddy is dead.”

[lockerogue]

Reading Comprehension.
“Poor Maddy is still dead,” Fraction told CBR News, addressing fan speculation. “I think she was consumed by the Red Queen. Nobody said Maddy was coming back. The Red Queen is back and Maddy is dead.”

Fraction is a tard. 503 or 504 confirmed that it is Maddie.

[pariah-1972]

Fraction is a tard. 503 or 504 confirmed that it is Maddie.How did it confirm? solicits??

[lockerogue]

How did it confirm? solicits??

Scott and the rest of the X-Men where at the Dazzler concert. When he sees the RQ and yells out OMG its my dead ex-wife maddie.

[The Thunderbird]

Scott and the rest of the X-Men where at the Dazzler concert. When he sees the RQ and yells out OMG its my dead ex-wife maddie.
Scott could have just assumed she was Maddie, he could be wrong.

[pariah-1972]

Scott and the rest of the X-Men where at the Dazzler concert. When he sees the RQ and yells out OMG its my dead ex-wife maddie.Yeah you would think he would be able to tell if its one of his dead Ex wives or not but if she is purposely trying to look like Maddie or Jean then of course he could be confused.


I prefered Maddie with the short bob so we could tell the difference between the two.

[pariah-1972]

That seems pretty tongue in cheek. I think he's meaning it's Maddie's body, but something is up with her Red Queen persona. They've been advertising for a while it's Maddie and that this will cause a lot of turmoil for Cyclops.

I read the interview, I don't need the attitude.Sorry mate attitude is contagious around here sometimes.

[The Thunderbird]

That seems pretty tongue in cheek. I think he's meaning it's Maddie's body, but something is up with her Red Queen persona. They've been advertising for a while it's Maddie and that this will cause a lot of turmoil for Cyclops.

I read the interview, I don't need the attitude.
They were also advertising that Hope was Jean Grey reborn. Look how that's turning out.

[Omega Alpha]

Fraction's run gets worse every issue and his plans look worse every time we hear new stuff about it. Looks like I'm going to have to drop this pretty soon.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

You guys do know Cyke ain't always right about everything, right? Think of, say, all the times he took the moral high ground and didn't optic blast insubordinate mavericks in the face.

But I disgress. He saw - in a darkened club at that - a woman who looked like his dead ex-wife. He also had this nagging suspicion that aforementioned woman had mind-raped him hours earlier.

He might have gotten some of the details wrong. Just saying. :biggrin:

[Omega Alpha]

They were also advertising that Hope was Jean Grey reborn. Look how that's turning out.

Actually, they were doing the exact opposite.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

They were also advertising that Hope was Jean Grey reborn. Look how that's turning out.

They didn't at first.

They just decided to mess around with the crazy collective that decided to ignore early interviews.

This one's *not* on the mean writers/editors.

[just another user]

They didn't at first.

They just decided to mess around with the crazy collective that decided to ignore early interviews.

This one's *not* on the mean writers/editors.

Not everyone reads all the press interviews, nor should they be made to feel they have to.

You can't call the readers "crazy" because Marvel have chosen to imply there is a connection.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

You can't call the readers "crazy" because Marvel have chosen to imply there is a connection.

There wasn't much of an implied connection before MC got started.

There's reaching and, well, reaching some more. :biggrin:

[just another user]

There wasn't much of an implied connection before MC got started.

At least you admit there is an implied connectince since MC :smile:

And since the majority of the readers do not read the internet interviews it is a perfectly logical assumption that Hope and Jean are connected in some way.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

At least you admit there is an implied connectince since MC :smile:

What I was saying was that the writers/editors went with it AFTER the crazies started getting crazy over nothing.

They didn't draw the first blood. Fair game as far as I'm concerned.

[The Thunderbird]

They didn't at first.

They just decided to mess around with the crazy collective that decided to ignore early interviews.

This one's *not* on the mean writers/editors.
Can you give me one of those interviews please? I don't want Hope to be Jean BTW as much as I want Jean back.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Can you give me one of those interviews please? I don't want Hope to be Jean BTW as much as I want Jean back.

Can't remember for the life of me exactly when those were out.

Still, back then they went on about how it was a different/new character.

Also, I happen to believe that Cable isn't that much of a douchebag for knowing Jean would come back and not telling any of her friends/family. Don't prove me wrong, X-Office. Cause otherwise you'll have to explain why any 1th or 2nd generation x-men wouldn't just murder him for it.

[streator]

northstar being around sounds alright, as does a streamlined psylocke. the preview art looks okay (land actually draws spiral better from behind).

[Slung]

They didn't at first.

They just decided to mess around with the crazy collective that decided to ignore early interviews.

This one's *not* on the mean writers/editors.

I'm assuming that you don't think you're part of the crazy collective?

Why are the craziest fans the ones that believe everyone else is wrong?

And in interviews they stated Hope wasn't Jean. In the books they went out of their way to imply that she was. The fact that you decided the interviews over-rode the books does not make you right. Red hair, green eyes, grabbing the Jean and Scott locket.

[The Thunderbird]

They have been hinting at a Jean return for quite some time now at the cons post SDCC 2008. Before SDCC 2008, they almost always denied a Jean return, didn't they? I believe that the return they have been building up to is in June because that's the time when they trade the classic Phoenix Rising storylines.

[steve2275]

I'm guessing there is a considerable amount of "catch up" to be had.
I believe Fraction MIGHT be doing a recap of sorts of the most recent X activity condensed into a few pages.
The concert scene for example: illustrating Pixie's previous activities (pre infernus) and then showing Nightcrawler perched by himself....possibly to show his feelings of inadequacy, alienating himself from the group.
or maybe he just likes the view:tongue:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I'm assuming that you don't think you're part of the crazy collective?

Not *that* specific branch of the crazy collective, no.

I swear, I don't have a Jean Fanatic sock puppet account. :wink:

Why are the craziest fans the ones that believe everyone else is wrong?

Kitty Pryde.

Fraction's latest interview on Dark X-Men.

And in interviews they stated Hope wasn't Jean. In the books they went out of their way to imply that she was. The fact that you decided the interviews over-rode the books does not make you right. Red hair, green eyes, grabbing the Jean and Scott locket.

I'd say that misdirection and evasive answers aren't the same thing as outright lies. But then again, they go on and say every book is gonna be awesome. I'll give you that one.

That being said, I've explained already that I have trouble believing the x-office would write Cable as such a creepy douchebag.

Douchebag, yes. *That* creepy, no.

Creepy was sooo 80s. The 00s are all about being a$$holes.

[Omega Alpha]

Anyway, by this interview looks like Fraction got his "inspiration" from Civil War:

Norman= Maria Hill
Emma= Tony Stark
Scott= Cap. America

With Daken, Namor, Mimic, etc, being Emma's Venom, Taskmaster, Osborn himself, etc. And Magneto (or at least Exodus) will certainly show up and be Scott's "Punisher".

Of course it won't end the same, among other things because there is already two X-men books (more, actually), Scott's side has all the relevant X-men, DKR is ending in the fall (and for the Nth time, yeah, both Joe Q and Bendis have said exactly that), and Tony and Cap weren't sleeping together (which would explain a lot, though).

You can expect one battle between the "Dark" X-men and the one that isn't Dark but has a team of killers and Mags/Exodus, and in the end all of them (except Namor, which will realize that if the woman hasn't called back in years, and you have seen her playing an arrogant jerk that thought he was getting under her pants for old times sake, you ain't getting any) fighting Osborn's forces.

[Slung]

Not *that* specific branch of the crazy collective, no.

I swear, I don't have a Jean Fanatic sock puppet account. :wink:
There are crazy Jean fans, I will admit. But recently, I truly think Cyclops, Black Panther, and Dazzler fans completely out-crazy us.

I'd say that misdirection and evasive answers aren't the same thing as outright lies. But then again, they go on and say every book is gonna be awesome. I'll give you that one.

That being said, I've explained already that I have trouble believing the x-office would write Cable as such a creepy douchebag.

Douchebag, yes. *That* creepy, no.

Creepy was sooo 80s. The 00s are all about being a$$holes.
I thought creepy was 90's. Oh, wait, that was badass.

[Henry T.]

At this point, I don't really care how Jean returns, as long as she does--- whether she has been reborn as Hope or will be reborn as a Red Queen controlled Zombie.

But I don't think its crazy to suspect that Hope might be Jean or to want her to be as it would have been such a powerful new story for Jean.

The fans that speculated that the Messiah Baby was Apocalypse, Nate Grey, or a Celestial reborn were much crazier.

Also, they never stated that the Messiah Baby wasn't Jean in an interview. All they said was that the parents were not established characters in response to a question asking whether Madrox and Siryn were the parents.

Writers and editors consistently refused to answer whether the Messiah Baby was a new character or a character reborn, although they did admit that there was misdirection involved.

Some posters claiming to have insider information have said that originally the Messiah Baby was going to be Jean (the script in the Messiah Complex HC seems to confirm this) but they changed their minds. Then after meeting an editor at a comic con, another poster claimed that they might have changed their minds back because supposedly most of the writers and editors wanted the child to be Jean. Several posters encouraged others to write Marvel and ask them not to make the baby be Jean.

It was rumored that an editor at one of the cons told a fan that Jean would return within the next year or so whether she turns out to be the child or not.

So who knows what will happen.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

There are crazy Jean fans, I will admit. But recently, I truly think Cyclops, Black Panther, and Dazzler fans completely out-crazy us.

Not walking into that minefield.

I thought creepy was 90's. Oh, wait, that was badass.

No. 90s was 'WTF all around'. 'Poser badass' might work, too, I suppose.

[pariah-1972]

I think Cyclops fan are less crazy than Dazzler and Black Panther fans probably cause he is big chief of the x-men so there's less to complain about.

[Slung]

I think Cyclops fan are less crazy than Dazzler and Black Panther fans probably cause he is big chief of the x-men so there's less to complain about.

But they are convinced that he can do no wrong and explode with vitriol at the mere mention of it. At least Dazzler fans have a sense of humor and Black Panther fans have...well, yeah...

[pariah-1972]

But they are convinced that he can do no wrong and explode with vitriol at the mere mention of it. At least Dazzler fans have a sense of humor and Black Panther fans have...well, yeah...I don't think i've ever seen them "explode into vitriol" they are quite similar to Cyke himself where they will say something arrogant and condescending.

[Slung]

I don't think i've ever seen them "explode into vitriol" they are quite similar to Cyke himself where they will say something arrogant and condescending.

They lack emotion - they are exploding on the inside (and I've been cussed out and torn to internet bits by Cyclops fans so, I stand by my initial statement).

[pariah-1972]

They lack emotion - they are exploding on the inside (and I've been cussed out and torn to internet bits by Cyclops fans so, I stand by my initial statement).I'm not disagreeing with your statement i just haven't seen that level of anger from them on here.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

But they are convinced that he can do no wrong and explode with vitriol at the mere mention of it.

Don't lie. It's petty. Cyke fans usually aknowledge that Cyke is entirely wrong for not optic blasting Wolverine or other deserving insubordinate brats more often. So there.

I'll also take a moment to remind you of our once 'Jean: faithful or not?' debate. If I recall correctly, you basically blamed her 'confusion' on Cyke being a bad boyfriend. :wink:

[Henry T.]

Scott/Jean shippers are the crazy ones. They threaten to kill writers.

Fans of Jean that aren't Scott/Jean shippers aren't that crazy, imho.

Magneto fans and Storm fans can be a bit zealous as well.

[Slung]

Don't lie. It's petty. Cyke fans usually aknowledge that Cyke is entirely wrong for not optic blasting Wolverine or other deserving insubordinate brats more often. So there.

I'll also take a moment to remind you of our once 'Jean: faithful or not?' debate. If I recall correctly, you basically blamed her 'confusion' on Cyke being a bad boyfriend. :wink:

I blamed her "confusion" on being lonely because Scott had completely shut her out (and on Logan being soooo dreamily hairy or something). And I still feel that the artwork clearly showed Logan pulling Jean in to kiss her and not the other way around. Jean has done bad things (see: plowing through Emma's mind and eating a star system), but I don't think this one was one of her worst.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I blamed her "confusion" on being lonely because Scott had completely shut her out (and on Logan being soooo dreamily hairy or something). And I still feel that the artwork clearly showed Logan pulling Jean in to kiss her and not the other way around. Jean has done bad things (see: plowing through Emma's mind and eating a star system), but I don't think this one was one of her worst.

I fail to see how this proves that you're willing to aknowledge that she's been just as unfaithful as Cyke. :tongue:

[pariah-1972]

I fail to see how this proves that you're willing to aknowledge that she's been just as unfaithful as Cyke. :tongue:

Scott pushed her away so she had a reason for "cheating" besides Wolverine has been sniffing her panties for so long she's lucky all he did was kiss her.

Seem's like all hardcore fan's of X-characters can be a little crazy (cept the Wolverine ones cause we are forced to hide in the closet)

[Slung]

I fail to see how this proves that you're willing to aknowledge that she's been just as unfaithful as Cyke. :tongue:

It doesn't because she wasn't. Scott's always been unfaithful, hooking up when bodies are still warm or when wives are still married to him. He's terrible at relationships because he needs them to be stable. He's co-dependent and obsessive when things are going well and then bales as soon as things get bumpy to immediately hook up with someone else. He has some extreme emotional baggage that probably stems from his abandonment issues. He is an adulterous husband and a selfish lover. Women like him because he is needy and can be controlled but is still manly and strong. Scott has difficulties with accepting responsibility and usually tries to pass the buck to the nearest authority figure.

But if it makes you feel better: Jean was a slut for letting Logan kiss her.

Are we now even. :biggrin:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Scott pushed her away so she had a reason for "cheating" besides Wolverine has been sniffing her panties for so long she's lucky all he did was kiss her.

But when she pushed him away back, he was in the wrong. :tongue:

Seem's like all hardcore fan's of X-characters can be a little crazy (cept the Wolverine ones cause we are forced to hide in the closet)

Nonsense. Hating Way's Wolvie is a total reedeeming quality.

But seriously, regarding the crazy thing overall, just look at just about EVERY UXM thread ever since Fraction came on board. Cyclops b**ching nonstop, pedophilia accusitions and yet he hardly did anything in, what, HALF of those issues?

*Not* snapping became an exercice in futility and real quick at that.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

But if it makes you feel better: Jean was a slut for letting Logan kiss her.

Are we now even. :biggrin:

Not just that one time, right? :biggrin:

[Slung]

But when she pushed him away back, he was in the wrong. :tongue:
.When did she push him away? I'm confused. She tried to talk with him and then died.

[pariah-1972]

But when she pushed him away back, he was in the wrong. :tongue:



Nonsense. Hating Way's Wolvie is a total reedeeming quality.

But seriously, regarding the crazy thing overall, just look at just about EVERY UXM thread ever since Fraction came on board. Cyclops b**ching nonstop, pedophilia accusitions and yet he hardly did anything in, what, HALF of those issues?

*Not* snapping became an exercice in futility and real quick at that.I've gone beyond hate for what he has done to Wolverine.


And when did anyone accuse Scott of Pedophilia? and why?

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

When did she push him away? I'm confused. She tried to talk with him and then died.

Right. Cause Jean didn't go on a far far away adventure.

I'll play nice and not play the 'she couldn't even detect his indiscretions while he couldn't even bother to block her out' card.

[eurazn]

There are crazy Jean fans, I will admit. But recently, I truly think Cyclops, Black Panther, and Dazzler fans completely out-crazy us.

... At least Dazzler fans have a sense of humor and Black Panther fans have...well, yeah...

You saved yourself THIS time, Slung. Fortunately, I do have a sense of humor :biggrin:

However, I demand you retract the phrase "Black Panther fans!" Does not compute.

I think Cyclops fan are less crazy than Dazzler and Black Panther fans probably cause he is big chief of the x-men so there's less to complain about.

I'm not quite so sure about that. As soon as someone mentions Scott leaving a wife, abandoning a baby, or having psychic affairs, CBR collapses on itself. This thread, for example, is now centering around these very topics!

We Dazzler fans just make silly comments about NEX Allen Blaire, X-Women eating cereal and uber-cool scientists serving coffee.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I've gone beyond hate for what he has done to Wolverine.

*high five*


And when did anyone accuse Scott of Pedophilia? and why?

That purple-haired woman.

The CBR collective showed its true unbiased colors by going on a 'OMG it's Pixie! That sick bastard!' rampage and then pretended it never happened after they were proven wrong.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

We Dazzler fans just make silly comments about NEX Allen Blaire, X-Women eating cereal and uber-cool scientists serving coffee.

And Beast dying. Which isn't cool. :tongue:

[pariah-1972]

You saved yourself THIS time, Slung. Fortunately, I do have a sense of humor :biggrin:

However, I demand you retract the phrase "Black Panther fans!" Does not compute.



I'm not quite so sure about that. As soon as someone mentions Scott leaving a wife, abandoning a baby, or having psychic affairs, CBR collapses on itself. This thread, for example, is now centering around these very topics!

We Dazzler fans just make silly comments about NEX Allen Blaire, X-Women eating cereal and uber-cool scientists serving coffee.Most Dazzler fan's do have a sense of humor but then there's certain ones who go around bashing all the creators who don't fit into there own little sad worldview of life.

[pariah-1972]

*high five*



That purple-haired woman.

The CBR collective showed its true unbiased colors by going on a 'OMG it's Pixie! That sick bastard!' rampage and then pretended it never happened after they were proven wrong.Was that in one of his psychic hotel things that Emma went thru?

[eurazn]

And Beast dying. Which isn't cool. :tongue:

Only one of us has advocated for his death. All but one of us find him incredibly boring, however.

Knowing is half the battle!

[Dagger]

And Beast dying. Which isn't cool. :tongue:
No, it's a movement I'd like to see happen. We should all get together and go down to the Alamo, and have ourselves a Beast Must Die tea party to protest this lame-o character still existing. He and his X-Club. Warren gets a free pass cuz he's the dreamyest<3<3

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Was that in one of his psychic hotel things that Emma went thru?

Yeah. Weren't you around? The whole crusade turned into a rather... vocal debacle all around.

Only one of us has advocated for his death. All but one of us find him incredibly boring, however.

Fair enough, lol. I personally like Hank but am utterly bored by the x-club. Still can't believe they're going for a one-shot. Hungh.

Knowing is half the battle!

Dazzler fan... G.I.joe-ish quote. Doesn't compute. :eek:

[LungerTony]

I don't want Beast to die, but it want him forever banished to his labratory, unable to ever leave.
The rest of the X-Club can die. I say they allow Bishop to murder the X-Club so we'll hate him less.

[Fatguy]

I don't want Beast to die, but it want him forever banished to his labratory, unable to ever leave.

lol so.....he'd basically be dead.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

lol so.....he'd basically be dead.

Not true.

Ems: "Hank is psychically calling out to any neary telepath. He says..."

Cyke: "He just texted me, actually."

[LungerTony]

Yeah.
He'd only apear when someone needs a blood sample tested.
Then they'd unlock the jail-cell door to the labratory, and unlock Beast's shackles so he can compute, then they'd throw him back into solitary every 4th arch or so.

[pariah-1972]

Yeah. Weren't you around? The whole crusade turned into a rather... vocal debacle all around.



Fair enough, lol. I personally like Hank but am utterly bored by the x-club. Still can't believe they're going for a one-shot. Hungh.



Dazzler fan... G.I.joe-ish quote. Doesn't compute. :eek:I don't remember any hardcore debate about him being a pedophile i mean they were just fantasies for pete's sake that doesn't make one a pedophile for fantasizing and he was dreaming about all of the x-women and it wasn't anything terribly disgusting or perverted anyways.

[Fatguy]

Not true.

Ems: "Hank is psychically calling out to any neary telepath. He says..."

Cyke: "He just texted me, actually."

Beast just learned about Hot Pockets, it may be a while before he catches on to text messaging.

[LungerTony]

Didn't Beast just learn about women too, and that you can reproduce with them?

[Fatguy]

See? Beast is awesome. He's a genius, but not so arrogant that he's not open to learning new things every day. That's rare in this crazy world.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I don't remember any hardcore debate about him being a pedophile

Mmm. 'Debate' might've been the wrong word.

'One-sided hate-fueled rampage with the few annoyed Cyke fans bailing in disgust after a few posts' might be a better fit.

[pariah-1972]

I love Beast and i love this X-club crazyness it's fun !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Didn't Beast just learn about women too, and that you can reproduce with them?

Well, he *did* bring a woman in the x-club to 'reverse' M-Day.

[pariah-1972]

Mmm. 'Debate' might've been the wrong word.

'One-sided hate-fueled rampage with the few annoyed Cyke fans bailing in disgust after a few posts' might be a better fit.I remember reading it and commenting on it but that's all.



So are you not including yourself as a Cyke fan?

the only thing that bothers me about Cyke fans is that they feel like they have to act like him.
And that somehow makes him a republican just cause he acts like one sometimes.

[LungerTony]

I think they should just send Beast and the X-Club into the "future" a la Forge to find the cure for M-Day...and pretty much just be summarily forgotten about for years.
Similar to Layla Miller during Mesiah Complex...but unlike Layla in that they actually brought her and her "story" back.

[Dagger]

I wonder if Kavita's going to be the token nursemaid when the X-Club goes back in time?

[Bolebeau]

I wonder if Kavita's going to be the token nursemaid when the X-Club goes back in time?

She's stealing Cecilia Reyes' DESTINY. Damn her to hell.:mad:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

So are you not including yourself as a Cyke fan?

Nah, just went with the third plural persona. Could've used the 'us', I guess.

the only thing that bothers me about Cyke fans is that they feel like they have to act like him.
And that somehow makes him a republican just cause he acts like one sometimes.

Cyke doesn't vote republican. Canon. :wink:

Still, fair enough.

[LungerTony]

What makes Cyke republicanish - is the support and sponsoring of free-roaming death squads?

[pariah-1972]

Nah, just went with the third plural persona. Could've used the 'us', I guess.



Cyke doesn't vote republican. Canon. :wink:

Still, fair enough.I don't know if he is a republican or not but he does seem to share some traits with them sometimes.

He used to be a perfectly nice guy even after he left his wife but Marvel seem's intent on doing major damage to his image.

Hell he's not even that likeable in the cartoon and Emma is.
:eek:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I wonder if Kavita's going to be the token nursemaid when the X-Club goes back in time?

For the sake of not breaking cover, eh?

On a more serious note, you might be on to something. That coffee-making session just might be actual practice.

[pariah-1972]

What makes Cyke republicanish - is the support and sponsoring of free-roaming death squads?And torture.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Oh, please. You're saying it as if it was novelty in the x-verse.

[pariah-1972]

Oh, please. You're saying it as if it was novelty in the x-verse.Well Beast certainly thinks so.

[pariah-1972]

Oh, please. You're saying it as if it was novelty in the x-verse.Well Beast certainly thinks so.

[Bingo!]

In theory, these various plots want to sound interesting...but we all know, the execution is going to be as drab as ten-days old porridge and just as unsightly and un-palatable.
No thank you, not interested.
If only Uncanny wasn't porn-traced copy/pasted, Fraction's efforts might be more flavorful.

#1 No one cares about x-anus and where it fits into "continuity."

#2 Maddie was eaten by the Red Queen ages ago. Red Queen is the alternate reality Jean Grey (the Dark Phoenix who was killed in 127).

#3 They took Psylocke's rat infested dead body and moved a tramp psi into it just to show that Maddie can do the same with Jean's body and claim it (and all its power) for her own.

Jean Grey sucks, ergo this story sucks for making reference to her.
Darkness, I think you're so close to being correct.

Red Queen doesn't want anything to do with Jean's body. Jean/Phoenix would defeat her instantly. Red wants power she can manipulate. She has her vessel ready, too. Empath's currently being tenderized for Nate Grey.

[nikbackm]

The real question of course is: WHERE THE HELL IS SHE GOING TO GET JEAN'S BODY? It was resurrected by Land's porn drawings like four years ago and currently sexes up the WHR.

But Pak stated (clarified) in an interview later that the event-horizon explosion at the end of Endsong vaporized her body after which she returned to the WHR, body-less. Not that Fraction will likely know that of course, maybe he'll even ignore Endsong itself.

But he has said (hasn't he?) that the Sisterhood is in SF for a very specific reason. Unless he thinks Jean is buried there that can hardly be it. And they were there before the X-Men so that's not it either.

[ManiacalWon]

So confused by these previews...

I didn't see the problem with Land before... but without Text... I see now... I can't distinguish anyone from each other... how does his colorist cope?

and did Storm lose her bottom in the wind? She looks like she's about to poop.

[Leirus]

But Pak stated (clarified) in an interview later that the event-horizon explosion at the end of Endsong vaporized her body after which she returned to the WHR, body-less. Not that Fraction will likely know that of course, maybe he'll even ignore Endsong itself.

But he has said (hasn't he?) that the Sisterhood is in SF for a very specific reason. Unless he thinks Jean is buried there that can hardly be it. And they were there before the X-Men so that's not it either.

Well, Land was drawing Endsong, he should know, shouldnt he?

[mimic_616]

This is really getting interesting. Dark X-Men is a whole heck of a better concept than Dark Avengers.

Agreed.

I wonder which of the Dark X-Men was Emma's pick.

Could be Mimic? Maybe she see's the potential of a guy that could copy both her and Xavier's ability? :confused:

[coldstar]

Graaaaaah. Just read the interview. Pissed off as hell about it; need to rant. Anyone who's had enough ranting about this (I note the 11 pages previous that I haven't read), feel free to ignore this post; it probably repeats many previously made points.

First... Greg Land!?! Seriously? I just read the latest issue and... wow. Fail. For this issue, they choose the Marvel artist most skilled at writing indistinguishible porn cartoons... I mean, women. In skimpy outfits. Making weird poses. Did I mention they all look the same? The whole issue was "blond girl", "redhead girl", "black-haired girl", oh, and Domino. Every female character has the same face, the same orgasmic expressions, the same zoomed-in-on cleavage...

And this right before they release an article in which they stress, oh-so-enthusiastically, how they're trying to bring more women in to X-men??? I can really see how that discussion went. "Oh guys, you know what we could do to make X-men sell better? Let's add girls! Lots of them! Strong female characters! Everybody loves that!" So we get the Sisterhood of Zombie Strippers (not that the protagonist females were any better; just that flash of Hepzibah was... disturbing).

Does Fraction have any idea how dumb this is? Just broadcasting this "initiative" to add females is insanely offensive. It's the gender-focus equivalent of publicly announcing "Just to prove how open-minded I am, I'm going to write a book about black people!" YES, the MU is gender imbalanced, and female characters are frequently minimized. But to fix this... they dig up every dead female character because they think squabbling porn stars muttering "yes mistress" qualify as strong female characters? Or maybe Rao the boy's club waitress is the female protagonist. NO. FAIL.

And all this talk about Dark X-Men... really??? Frost is actually going to make Osborn his own little team of traitors? I freaking respected her! Seriously, why the hell would she do this? Oh yeah, because he picked her as part of his evil team. Such a compelling reason to betray everything you've chosen to value. And this new team is... WHY?? They are so NOT X-men!!!

Let's see... Prof X? Mastermind type. Pretty near never went into the field when he was leading the X-men; why the hell would he go now? Not to mention that his presence minimizes Emma's usefulness; you don't need two superpowerful psychics. Namor? Yes, he's a mutant, but he's also the freaking King of Atlantis. He has better things to do. And everyone knows his great love for taking orders. Another wonderful subordinate. Cloak and Dagger? What the freaking... they aren't mutants!!! At all! They are NOT X-men, or X-men candidates, or... gaaah!!!

Seriously, this really seems like Marvel's way of getting rid of Emma so Jean can come back and jump in Cyclops' bed. But unless they do a much better job than I think they will, they're effectively wiping her character off the map. Frost was one of the best, especially after what Wheedon did with her. Don't do this, Marvel...

Okay, rant over with. Resume sanity. If I can...

[tetragene]

as much as Uncanny has been disappointing me, I'm actually very excited for Psylocke to be back in her real body. Hopefully fully freed of all this dumb ninja non-sense. If she goes back to being a smart, creative telepath with no martial arts and psychic katanas then I'll jump back on board the Psylocke bandwagon.

I also have to laugh at the last few pages too :tongue: Cyke, Dazz & BP fans are over-zealous and crazy but we're claiming the Jean ones aren't? Hoooo-kay, lol.

[boshobosho]

may have already been asked..but, for the Dark X-men deal..since when are Cloak and Dagger muties?

[darknessatnoon]

I also have to laugh at the last few pages too :tongue: Cyke, Dazz & BP fans are over-zealous and crazy but we're claiming the Jean ones aren't? Hoooo-kay, lol.

I am having my Jean eggs sunny side up this morning.

[Bolebeau]

may have already been asked..but, for the Dark X-men deal..since when are Cloak and Dagger muties?

Latent mutants, powers activated by drugs, technically mutates but close enough.

[Seres]

I also have to laugh at the last few pages too :tongue: Cyke, Dazz & BP fans are over-zealous and crazy but we're claiming the Jean ones aren't? Hoooo-kay, lol.

You're all crazy. The only sane fans are the genteel supporters of Karma.

I just noticed that the New X-Men are appearing in the next issue, along with Cyclops, Dazzler, Beast, and PurpleBodyGirl, among others. I expect an immense battle-royale to begin on CBR once that issue comes out. The fury will be visible from space.

[the Hornet]

You know, as glad I am to see Betsy back in her original body, I sure would miss the Asian body. Kwannon was dull. I won't mind seeing Maddie (or whoever she is) take over that body :tongue:

[Slung]

I also have to laugh at the last few pages too :tongue: Cyke, Dazz & BP fans are over-zealous and crazy but we're claiming the Jean ones aren't? Hoooo-kay, lol.

I was the one that brought that up and I NEVER claimed Jean fans weren't crazy. Just in the current climate, that Cyke, Dazz and BP fans out-crazy them. Look at this board, peruse a few threads. Its freaking nuts in here. I guess I could have added Magneto fans, but they've been relatively quiet recently (I believe they were silenced by the Glitterati).

[Novaya Havoc]

There are crazy Jean fans, I will admit. But recently, I truly think Cyclops, Black Panther, and Dazzler fans completely out-crazy us.


I WILL RIP OUT YOUR CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM AND PLAY IT LIKE A VIOLIN!!!!!!!!!!

Are you daft?! We don't have crazy posters named long live alison blaire or have some insane Lois London Loonies like your ilk is responsible for both the Cable meatheads and RACHEL GREY FANS.

So GTFO SLUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dagger]

Hopefully Fraction will give us the Warren/Betsy sex scenes like we've been getting of the Scemma. At least give us a hot male to work with Warren>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Blob>>>>>>>>>>>Cyke.

[Mundungus]

I thought last issue was pretty good, story-wise. I'd still prefer a different artist.

I feel like anything that has to do with Jean during this storyarc is misdirection and I would like it to stay that way. I'd rather Jean stay dead, or stuck in the White Hot Room, or Alkali Lake or whatever.

I think Fraction is great, not every issue is on fire, but he's usually pretty great. I think he has a handle on the X-Men. The Science Team is kind of bizarre, but I like it. I can go for this stuff.

[Dagger]

I think Fraction is great, not every issue is on fire, but he's usually pretty great. I think he has a handle on the X-Men. The Science Team is kind of bizarre, but I like it. I can go for this stuff.
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Send this to your parents

[Seres]

Matt Fraction is a sexy piece of writer meat. Uncanny X-Men is filled with hearty yay.

[Dagger]

Matt Fraction is a sexy piece of writer meat. Uncanny X-Men is filled with hearty yay.
See my previous post.

lol. Seriously, tho, his latest Uncanny was, imo, MILES better than his previous stuff. His Lovelorn arc was better than his arc where Empath had the Red Queen grind his testicles with her stilettos, but it's still got a lot of work to do.

[Bolebeau]

See my previous post.

lol. Seriously, tho, his latest Uncanny was, imo, MILES better than his previous stuff. His Lovelorn arc was better than his arc where Empath had the Red Queen grind his testicles with her stilettos, but it's still got a lot of work to do.

Which is rather odd, since the highlighted part sounds like the recipe for perfection!

[darknessatnoon]

I was the one that brought that up and I NEVER claimed Jean fans weren't crazy. Just in the current climate, that Cyke, Dazz and BP fans out-crazy them. Look at this board, peruse a few threads. Its freaking nuts in here. I guess I could have added Magneto fans, but they've been relatively quiet recently (I believe they were silenced by the Glitterati).

Yes you did claim that. And you guys are hands down the nuttiest. PS, it was not the Glitterati who silenced the Magneto fans. It was because of civil unrest between two of their prophets.

[Novaya Havoc]

Yes you did claim that. And you guys are hands down the nuttiest. PS, it was not the Glitterati who silenced the Magneto fans. It was because of civil unrest between two of their prophets.

Correct.

The Glitterati -- in an alliance with Exiles fans and Captain Britain fans -- silenced the Chris Claremont fans. They have fled CBR.

[jarrod]

I WILL RIP OUT YOUR CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM AND PLAY IT LIKE A VIOLIN!!!!!!!!!!

Are you daft?! We don't have crazy posters named long live alison blaire or have some insane Lois London Loonies like your ilk is responsible for both the Cable meatheads and RACHEL GREY FANS.

So GTFO SLUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There seems to be precious little crossover between Jean, Rachel and Cable fanbases, at least not anymore than any random characters.

And yeah, the glitterati are the craziest around here, at least outwardly. And now that the Magneto fans have been driven away and the Bishop fans ghettoized. I still <3 you all though. Esp eurazn. <3 <3


See my previous post.

lol. Seriously, tho, his latest Uncanny was, imo, MILES better than his previous stuff. His Lovelorn arc was better than his arc where Empath had the Red Queen grind his testicles with her stilettos, but it's still got a lot of work to do.
I have to agree. This issue was legitimately good fun, it actually started feeling like what Fraction's been talking about doing in interviews the past year.

[darknessatnoon]

Correct.

The Glitterati -- in an alliance with Exiles fans and Captain Britain fans -- silenced the Chris Claremont fans. They have fled CBR.

Now we just need to drive jarrod out and all will be well.

[psycwave]

I miss the Magneto crazies. They were entertaining.

<3 Jarrod!

[Novaya Havoc]

Now we just need to drive jarrod out and all will be well.

Agreed wholeheartedly.

[mimic_616]

And all this talk about Dark X-Men... really??? Frost is actually going to make Osborn his own little team of traitors? I freaking respected her! Seriously, why the hell would she do this? Oh yeah, because he picked her as part of his evil team. Such a compelling reason to betray everything you've chosen to value. And this new team is... WHY?? They are so NOT X-men!!!

Let's see... Prof X? Mastermind type. Pretty near never went into the field when he was leading the X-men; why the hell would he go now? Not to mention that his presence minimizes Emma's usefulness; you don't need two superpowerful psychics. Namor? Yes, he's a mutant, but he's also the freaking King of Atlantis. He has better things to do. And everyone knows his great love for taking orders. Another wonderful subordinate. Cloak and Dagger? What the freaking... they aren't mutants!!! At all! They are NOT X-men, or X-men candidates, or... gaaah!!!

Seriously, this really seems like Marvel's way of getting rid of Emma so Jean can come back and jump in Cyclops' bed. But unless they do a much better job than I think they will, they're effectively wiping her character off the map. Frost was one of the best, especially after what Wheedon did with her. Don't do this, Marvel...

Okay, rant over with. Resume sanity. If I can...

The Dark X-Men are a result of change and change is good. Change is what saved the X-Men after it was cancelled and brought us the all new team (Nightcrawler, Colossus, Banshee, etc) so what is the big stink here?

No one could have predicted we would see an X-Men team made up of these characters so lets stop bitching and lets see how it goes. :rolleyes:

[jarrod]

lol. You wouldn't know what to do without me. As if the Glitterati and the (not really) Sage fan could take out a High Priestess of the Askani.

Also, Seres would be sad.

[Majinoaw]

Now we just need to drive jarrod out and all will be well.

Don't be so quick to think that.

[Hi-Fi]

Rogue fans are insane by their very nature.

[MartinRedmond]

I WILL RIP OUT YOUR CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM AND PLAY IT LIKE A VIOLIN!!!!!!!!!!


REPORTED to the F.B.I.

[Novaya Havoc]

REPORTED to the F.B.I.

Good thing you're Canadian. I shall report you to the Queen of your Commonwealth.

[Seres]

lol. You wouldn't know what to do without me. As if the Glitterati and the (not really) Sage fan could take out a High Priestess of the Askani.

Also, Seres would be sad.

Sort of, I suppose.

[nikbackm]

The Dark X-Men are a result of change and change is good. Change is what saved the X-Men after it was cancelled and brought us the all new team (Nightcrawler, Colossus, Banshee, etc) so what is the big stink here?

No one could have predicted we would see an X-Men team made up of these characters so lets stop bitching and lets see how it goes. :rolleyes:

Exactly. What's not to love about that team?

[Agent_Torpor]

Sort of, I suppose.

If you had to be sad, I assume that would be the time to do it.

[nightw1ng]

i actually wouldn't mind if the dark x-men took over the uncanny title for awhile. it's been feeling pretty stale lately. the astonishing team has been the core for years now and i think it's time to shift focus away from them.

[Omega Alpha]

Exactly. What's not to love about that team?

Composed almost exclusively of characters that are uninteresting, should never be X-men, or both? There are too many characters in the book already?

But anyway, this won't last past this crossover.

EDIT: Just to add that I agree Uncanny sucks at the moment, but has nothing to do with the characters, nearly all of them are interesting with other writers. Changing the cast won't make this book any better, getting another writer (and artist to replace Land) will.

[Seres]

If you had to be sad, I assume that would be the time to do it.

Are you saying that we should <3 Jarrod?

[Agent_Torpor]

Are you saying that we should <3 Jarrod?

I do wholeheartedly.

[jarrod]

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Seres, you should always weep for the loss of a fellow Milligan fan.

[Agent_Torpor]

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Seres, you should always weep for the loss of a fellow Milligan fan.

When's our Milligan-themed slumber party? I'll be Foxx...

Seres can Daap it up.

[lockerogue]

When's our Milligan-themed slumber party? I'll be Foxx...

Seres can Daap it up.

There's a Milligan slumber party?!?!
Jarrod should be Emma. I would like to Onyxx so I can eat toilets.

[Agent_Torpor]

There's a Milligan slumber party?!?!
Jarrod should be Emma. I would like to Onyxx so I can eat toilets.

That would mean you'd have the violent crush on me! Yay!

[jarrod]

When's our Milligan-themed slumber party? I'll be Foxx...

Seres can Daap it up.
Next Monday, hopefully with a thread revival (*wink*nudge*). Will you feed me toilet?


edit: ackgak, too slow! :(

I would be honored to scissor my face though. And top Alex.

[Agent_Torpor]

Next Monday, hopefully with a thread revival (*wink*nudge*). Will you feed me toilet?


edit: ackgak, too slow! :(

I would be honored to scissor my face though. And top Alex.

This will be the thread of the year.

Now did she actually start scissoring her face or was she interrupted?

Timbox can be Gazer.

[Seres]

Next Monday, hopefully with a thread revival (*wink*nudge*). Will you feed me toilet?


edit: ackgak, too slow! :(

I would be honored to scissor my face though. And top Alex.

I wish to be Polaris-themed! I'll also get on that boy to post the next issue this week. I've missed it too. Are we at Bizarre Love Triangle yet?

Derail, derail, derail, derail.

[chickrockguitar]

So... Surge survived the Leper Queen? Or is the X-Force arc after this Uncanny arc? Anyone know?

Also, Pixie, was the Uncanny arc before or after Limbo?

[Agent_Torpor]

I wish to be Polaris-themed! I'll also get on that boy to post the next issue this week. I've missed it too. Are we at Bizarre Love Triangle yet?

Derail, derail, derail, derail.

I can't wait! Foxx handling some cajun pepper in the shower scene, YUM!

[jarrod]

This will be the thread of the year.

Now did she actually start scissoring her face or was she interrupted?
No, I'll be interrupted by Hi-Fi.

Then we'll all top him. <3 <3


I wish to be Polaris-themed! I'll also get on that boy to post the next issue this week. I've missed it too. Are we at Bizarre Love Triangle yet?

Derail, derail, derail, derail.
Must come back! I feel terrible for never contributing much, but next Monday should be fairly open. <3 <3

[Seres]

So... Surge survived the Leper Queen? Or is the X-Force arc after this Uncanny arc? Anyone know?

Also, Pixie, was the Uncanny arc before or after Limbo?

I assume this is before. The comics are uncannily well-timed together at the moment, and it makes most sense for this to be pre-Messiah Wars.

Pixie's flamin' dagger is looking more powerful though, so I assume this issue is post-Infernus. Also, Nightcrawler is still moping.

[Dagger]

There's a Milligan slumber party?!?!
Jarrod should be Emma. I would like to Onyxx so I can eat toilets.

Can I be crazy Po? Or Alex?

[lockerogue]

Can I be crazy Po? Or Alex?

Crazy Po would be more fun.

[Anna]

I don't want Beast to die, but it want him forever banished to his labratory, unable to ever leave.
The rest of the X-Club can die. I say they allow Bishop to murder the X-Club so we'll hate him less. I want Beast back in his "classic" ape form. Dr Nemisis is cool. Keep him. Madison Jeffries should be beaten to death by his wife for sending her to Neverland.

Didn't Beast just learn about women too, and that you can reproduce with them? He's always known about women; he's stooped so low as to have a relationship with Dazzler.

Well, he *did* bring a woman in the x-club to 'reverse' M-Day. Nope. The MEN are there to reverse M-Day. Dr. Rao is there to make coffee.

If only Uncanny wasn't porn-traced copy/pasted, Fraction's efforts might be more flavorful.


Darkness, I think you're so close to being correct.

Red Queen doesn't want anything to do with Jean's body. Jean/Phoenix would defeat her instantly. Red wants power she can manipulate. She has her vessel ready, too. Hellion's currently being tenderized for Nate Grey.
Red is one of the stray Phoenix fragmemts that Jean's done such a piss poor job of integratng. I'm wondering if Red stole Rachel and Korvus' fragments.
may have already been asked..but, for the Dark X-men deal..since when are Cloak and Dagger muties?

Latent mutants, powers activated by drugs, technically mutates but close enough. It's going to go back and forth at Marvel's conveniance; just like whether or not Polaris is really Magneto's daughter.

I was the one that brought that up and I NEVER claimed Jean fans weren't crazy. Just in the current climate, that Cyke, Dazz and BP fans out-crazy them. Look at this board, peruse a few threads. Its freaking nuts in here. I guess I could have added Magneto fans, but they've been relatively quiet recently (I believe they were silenced by the Glitterati). Magneto fans are waiting to see how recent developments play out and will react when the time is right.

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Send this to your parents I'll send it to my sister-in-law, so she can cry, call my mom complaining and tell my brother that she never wants me to babysit again. :evilsmile:


REPORTED to the F.B.I. The FBI does not have a queen on the rag division.

:tongue:

[Agent_Torpor]

Crazy Po would be more fun.

Exactly! You'd have to talk to yourself and gaze lovingly at Daap (timbox).

[Dagger]

Crazy Po would be more fun.

Natchrally.

[Darkchylde]

The uncanny arc takes place before infernus and the arc in x-force. its simple enough.

Not to quibble, but it looked to me like this arc may take place after X-Infernus, if for nothing else than the fact that Pixie's dagger is shown to be red - just as it was at the end of X-Infernus. (Prior to that, the dagger usually radiated a blue energy.)

Also, if you look closely at the dagger, it looks like it contains a bloodstone - also like at the end of X-Infernus, when Illyana and Pixie removed the fifth bloodstone from the Beatrix Medallion and it embedded itself in the dagger.

[Slung]

I WILL RIP OUT YOUR CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM AND PLAY IT LIKE A VIOLIN!!!!!!!!!!

Are you daft?! We don't have crazy posters named long live alison blaire or have some insane Lois London Loonies like your ilk is responsible for both the Cable meatheads and RACHEL GREY FANS.

So GTFO SLUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry you're right, you couldn't possibly be the craziest fandom here on CBR...It must be the handful of segregated Jean fans who pretty much stay in their own little thread. THAT makes sense. It couldn't possibly be the Glitterati who try to drive off everyone else on the board or threaten the lives and professions of posters, writers and artists because they don't "understand" Dazzler. It must be those Jean fans.

And don't you DARE lump us into R'Chel and Cable fantards. I don't blame your queer as folk for the demented Sage fans or that annoying Nocturne fan.

I
I feel like anything that has to do with Jean during this storyarc is misdirection and I would like it to stay that way. I'd rather Jean stay dead, or stuck in the White Hot Room, or Alkali Lake or whatever.

You sir are terribly, terribly misguided.

Yes you did claim that. And you guys are hands down the nuttiest. PS, it was not the Glitterati who silenced the Magneto fans. It was because of civil unrest between two of their prophets.
The next time your system is able to properly boot and you've managed to defragment the misplaced data, you will hopefully have enough memory to process all of this and trouble shoot this fatal error.

PS - I love you all.

[AcesX1X]

I'm sorry you're right...And don't you DARE lump us into R'Chel and Cable fantards. I don't blame your queer as folk for the demented Sage fans...


hey, that is very rude. what do you mean by "demented."

[The Thunderbird]

If Red Queen jumps into Jean's body, if there is one, how would she gain the Phoenix if its bonded to her in the White Hot Room?

[Fatguy]

And don't you DARE lump us into R'Chel and Cable fantards.

Cable has fantards?

[Omega Alpha]

If Red Queen jumps into Jean's body, if there is one, how would she gain the Phoenix if its bonded to her in the White Hot Room?

Jean doesn't even have a body to be dug up, IIRC.

[nightw1ng]

Jean doesn't even have a body to be dug up, IIRC.
correct. although it's up to interpretation about what happened to her at the end of endsong, she either a) ascended into the white hot room with her body or b) allowed her body to be obliterated by the event horizon while saving everyone else. i think i read an interview somewhere that pak meant the latter to be what happened.

[MartinRedmond]

The Phoenix is justified and ancient.

[Slung]

hey, that is very rude. what do you mean by "demented."
It means different things to different people. You could definitely take it as a compliment.

Cable has fantards?

Yes.

[eurazn]

I want Beast back in his "classic" ape form. Dr Nemisis is cool. Keep him. Madison Jeffries should be beaten to death by his wife for sending her to Neverland.

He's always known about women; he's stooped so low as to have a relationship with Dazzler.

Yes, and lower still by licking Psylocke, right? :rolleyes:

[Prodigy55]

Cable fans are very nice.

[Fatguy]

I've only seen a handful of Cable fans around here, and I've never witnessed any nuttiness. Active crazy fan clubs:

1. Dazzler
2. Magneto
3. New X-Men
4. Polaris
5. Jean Grey

[lockerogue]

I've only seen a handful of Cable fans around here, and I've never witnessed any nuttiness. Active crazy fan clubs:

1. Dazzler
2. Magneto
3. New X-Men
4. Polaris
5. Jean Grey

You forgot about the Cyclops fans and the CC fans.

[Fatguy]

You forgot about the Cyclops fans and the CC fans.

Oohhh, yeah, Claremontians definitely. Cyclops fans? Not crazy enough.

I maybe should have added Bishop fans too. You know who you are.

[lockerogue]

Oohhh, yeah, Claremontians definitely. Cyclops fans? Not crazy enough.

I maybe should have added Bishop fans too. You know who you are.

I guess your right there's only like 3 Cyclops fans and one of them always seems like he just finished doing lines in bathroom.

[Novaya Havoc]

Dazzler fans are only crazy fun! Not crazy. Don't cross me again, Fatguy.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

You forgot about the Cyclops fans and the CC fans.

We didn't push for a Cyke fanwank - I'm sorry, appreciation - thread.

Point, set, match.

[Slung]

Oohhh, yeah, Claremontians definitely. Cyclops fans? Not crazy enough.

I maybe should have added Bishop fans too. You know who you are.

Cyclops fans have the "victim" mentality down pat. They are very crazy. And you forgot about Storm/BP fans. They are nutty!

[Optic Rage!]

I guess your right there's only like 3 Cyclops fans and one of them always seems like he just finished doing lines in bathroom.

LOL.

This better not be me.

[Optic Rage!]

Cyclops fans have the "victim" mentality down pat. They are very crazy. And you forgot about Storm/BP fans. They are nutty!

Come on Slung, Jean fans are WAY more crazy then most.

[Slung]

Come on Slung, Jean fans are WAY more crazy then most.

See, I don't even see that many Jean Grey fans on here, so I don't get the WAY crazy part. I've seen a few nutty ones (the ones who have turned Jean into a religion) But I see more than a few psychotic Lord Magneto fans. Defenders of all things Cyclops fans (who seemingly hate Storm). I've never seen such an organized cult as the Dazzler fans. The sheer arguing power of the Storm/BP fans is unheard of.

I'm just not seeing it.

[Optic Rage!]

See, I don't even see that many Jean Grey fans on here, so I don't get the WAY crazy part. I've seen a few nutty ones (the ones who have turned Jean into a religion) But I see more than a few psychotic Lord Magneto fans. Defenders of all things Cyclops fans (who seemingly hate Storm). I've never seen such an organized cult as the Dazzler fans. The sheer arguing power of the Storm/BP fans is unheard of.

I'm just not seeing it.

I would get a list....but i so can't be arsed right now, remind me in the morning

I don't hate Storm!

[lockerogue]

I would get a list....but i so can't be arsed right now, remind me in the morning

I don't hate Storm!

You are the sane one.

[Slung]

You are the sane one.

The only sane one?

Can I be a sane one too?

[lockerogue]

The only sane one?

Can I be a sane one too?

Yes you can.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Cyclops fans have the "victim" mentality down pat.

Huh huh. Cause the average UXM thread of late and all the MC whining doesn't prove us right.

See, I don't even see that many Jean Grey fans on here, so I don't get the WAY crazy part.

All those straight-faced PHOENIX conversations beg to differ. :wink:

Defenders of all things Cyclops fans (who seemingly hate Storm).

To be fair, it's more the 'Cyke is such a Stu, but any female leader beats him at everything and stop saying they're Sues, you sexist f**k' mentally that gets on one's nerves.

[eurazn]

We didn't push for a Cyke fanwank - I'm sorry, appreciation - thread.

Point, set, match.

I guess your right there's only like 3 Cyclops fans and one of them always seems like he just finished doing lines in bathroom.

Don't mind me, I was just having a little fun reorganizing the post order and thereby stirring the pot ... :evilsmile:

See, I don't even see that many Jean Grey fans on here, so I don't get the WAY crazy part. I've seen a few nutty ones (the ones who have turned Jean into a religion) But I see more than a few psychotic Lord Magneto fans. Defenders of all things Cyclops fans (who seemingly hate Storm). I've never seen such an organized cult as the Dazzler fans. The sheer arguing power of the Storm/BP fans is unheard of.

I'm just not seeing it.

I have to agree with Slung on this point. There seem to be more R'Chel fans here (God knows why) than Jean fans, even. Jean/Emma disputes rarely escalate to the level of Cyclops/Storm arguments, either.

As far as the "organized Dazzler cult" ... I'll take that as praise. The Glitterati thank you, Slung! Now bear tribute to our goddess ....

[alf_to_the_rescue]

Come on Slung, Jean fans are WAY more crazy then most.

You are generalising again!

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Don't mind me, I was just having a little fun reorganizing the post order and thereby stirring the pot ... :evilsmile:

To be honest, I have no idea whether Locke meant Rage, Omega or me.

Rage's the angriest by far, by Omega and I can be confrontational jerks too. Oh well.

[jester1436]

Optic Rage! is easily the most stable Cyclops fan.