CBR: X-POSITION: Nick Lowe

[CBR News]

In this week's all-new X-POSITION, venerable X-Men editor Nick Lowe answers your questions about "Dark X-Men," "New Mutants," Wolverine, time-travel and more. Plus exclusive art.


Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20825).

[That JonoGuy]

Moonstar is totally rockin' that New Mutants cover.

[lockerogue]

I had to make Legacy 226 my background it was so fierce. I also love the New Mutants cover.

[Prodigy55]

Dani Moonstar is fkin FIERCE!

[cgar]

So Mike Carey said the cover to Legacy 226 kind a gives away the new direction of the book. So i guess its going to focus on Rogue and whoever wants to hang out with her. Cuz that is one of Mike's favorite characters. I would love to see him right Gambit, Rogue, Psylocke and Cannonball . that would be full of win. toodles

[alf_to_the_rescue]

I like all the art. For once. This has been good. The legacy direction aint a big surprise and I don't mind Rogue too much. I like the dark x-men art and I have to admit, that New Mutants cover is amazing.

[DanCMH]

Im all for a tough Dani but if she wasnt leaving against that brick wall she wouldnt be able to stand with all those guns. Every step she took would sound like someone slamming a drawer full of silverware.

[Washout]

Rogue is my favorite character, and the Legacy cover is sweet and all, but that New Mutants cover just convinced me to buy this book.

[Agent_Torpor]

Moonstar is totally rockin' that New Mutants cover.

I'm glad she ditched her Uggs.

[just another user]

Yay for LuckyStar!

[Prodigy55]

Dagger looks so cute on that Dark X-Men cover.

[CMBMOOL]

Moonstar is totally rockin' that New Mutants cover.

Yeah She's brining in the heat.:tongue:

[DeniseXfrost]

Danger <3

No Xavier on the new dark x-men cover <3

Dani, why you still the fucking bow?

[worstblogever]

Teasing Dazzler fans with "big role ahead" or "awesome scene coming up". This time, it's all the way in Uncanny #511.


I am sad to see how much they lead the diva's peeps by the nose like this.

[rwsmith]

Moonstar is totally rockin' that New Mutants cover.

Agreed. I love Adam Kubert's art. Can't wait to see his two upcoming issues of Wolverine (or half of each issue at least)!

And I got a question answered this week (though I didn't get the answer I wanted):

Well, in the case of R. Smith, he wants to know what it specifically means for one of his favorite characters…

Can you tell us anything about Cable's future after “Messiah War?” Will he still be stuck in the timestream, or will he be back in time to participate in the “Uncanny X-Men/Dark Avengers” crossover?

He’s getting really shaken up in “Messiah War.” I’ll tell you this: Cable won’t be part of “Utopia,” but I won’t rule out Hope being a part of it.

So it sounds like Hope might come back after Messiah War, but without Cable. I'm wondering if that means he's staying in the future, going through some sort of major change (like being replaced by X-man or Strfye or something), or maybe even just dying. I can't really fathom why he wouldn't come back and rejoin the X-men, but I'm sure he'll have his reasons. I probably won't be reading his book to find out what they are, but I'm sure they'll come up with something to keep him off in the timestream somewhere. :wink:

At this point they ought to just kill the guy off. Makes more sense to me than to continue his adventures off in some alternate future that won't ever happen. :confused:

[Agent_Torpor]

Teasing Dazzler fans with "big role ahead" or "awesome scene coming up". This time, it's all the way in Uncanny #511.


I am sad to see how much they lead the diva's peeps by the nose like this.

She'll probably get a few lines and expect everyone here to simultaneously combust, ejaculate, and/or instantly genuflect before the feet of Fraction for lording this power over all.

Yeah right.

[Novaya Havoc]

FoolishScribe has desires of their own and was hoping you might address three needs they’re feeling...

I have a question about three of my favorite mutants that seem to have been thrown to the wayside: Dazzler, Firestar and Northstar. Do you have word of any upcoming storylines where they play a major role? I was just curious – especially about Dazzler – in light of all buzz coming from Marvel about her return to the X-universe.

Northstar has a significant part in “Uncanny” starting in #508. The best Dazzler scene I’ve read in years is in #511. As for Firestar, she’s mainly occupying herself on the other side of the country.

Aaand one of CBR’s X-Men Forums just blew up with that announcement about “Uncanny” #511 – huzzah!

Yeah. Blew up in a polyphonic chorus of groans and sighs.

#511 now. For a Dazzler scene.

Got... cha. Naturally my question on when Fraction would stop boring us with Beast!!!!! stories didn't get asked. ;P

[Novaya Havoc]

While we may not see those two particular characters soon, Giselle wanted to know more about the possibility of “mixing up” the X-cast…

You've been talking a lot about how "Uncanny" has a rotating/ensemble cast, but so far, everything we’ve seen is focused on Cyclops, Emma Frost and Beast. When will we finally see this rotating cast rotate?

I think you’re oversimplifying a bit here, Giselle. Sure, Cyclops and Emma are central. But Angel/Archangel has been big. Colossus has been huge. Pixie’s been a big part.

LOL! Poor LuckyStar was shot down by not mentioning the other Uncanny X-Bores Colossus, Angel, and Pixie. It's the CBR equivalent of not being super specific when you ask a genie for a wish, and it blows up in your face. lolz.

And I'd prefer a 4-part arc about Kitty starving in a bullet to the X-Club.

[worstblogever]

Yeah. Blew up in a polyphonic chorus of groans and sighs.

#511 now. For a Dazzler scene.

Got... cha. Naturally my question on when Fraction would stop boring us with Beast!!!!! stories didn't get asked. ;P

511 will still make it a Land Dazzler scene, too, wouldn't it?

My Magic Eightball says, "Deep Throat imagery with a microphone in the future".

[Swashbuckler]

I can't stand Nick Lowe. His interviews suck. And while I LOVED Uncanny X-Men 508, I think it's time Marvel retracts their "rotating cast" crap and admits that the new team is Beast, White Queen, Cyclops, Wolverine, Colossus and the usual do nothing Nightcrawler. Those are the only ones who make every issue.

[tetragene]

The best Dazzler scene I’ve read in years is in #511

more hyperbolic LIES! Ben, I smell bullshit again. I'm ready to officially receive the Fraption I bestowed upon myself in the Dazzler thread

Fraction posted in Jinxworld (when he was posting there) that Dazzler would be in scene in the Sisterhood arc getting Pixie drunk. Her contributions to the X-Men continue to grow! I'm sure Pixie getting drunk will cause her to go into hyper-even-more-ridiculously-Mary-Sue'd mode and kill Hellion after all the X-Men + Northstar fail to :eek:

[Agent_Torpor]

I can't stand Nick Lowe. His interviews suck. And while I LOVED Uncanny X-Men 508, I tink it's time Marvel retracts their "rotating cast" crap and admits that the new team is Beast, White Queen, Cyclops, Wolverine, Colossus and the usual do nothing Nightcrawler. Those are the only ones who makes every issue.

I'd like a new editor on the X-titles.

[Novaya Havoc]

more hyperbolic LIES! Ben, I smell bullshit again. I'm ready to officially receive the Fraption I bestowed upon myself in the Dazzler thread


Oh, I know. I should have listened to you those many, many moons ago. Unfortunately, I had faith.

Mea culpa.

[Prodigy55]

I'd like to be the editor. I'd do some amazing things.

[Dagger]

I'm glad she ditched her Uggs.
She's the only character they look appropriate on. I mean, when she crawls out of her wigwam what is she gonna be wearing? Manolo blahniks? That would look ridiculous!

[drwho]

does axel no longer rule the xtitles?

[Agent_Torpor]

She's the only character they look appropriate on. I mean, when she crawls out of her wigwam what is she gonna be wearing? Manolo blahniks? That would look ridiculous!

I agree. Blahniks are affronts to any sensibility. However, cultural and racial boundaries do not excuse the Uggery.

[zinjak]

im personally glad that beast is getting to shine again in uncanny, hes been forgotten for years. quite frankly if you arent happy with the "team" on uncanny stop reading it, im pretty happy with the characters that in.


....x-fans are wierd.

[worstblogever]

I can't stand Nick Lowe. His interviews suck. And while I LOVED Uncanny X-Men 508, I tink it's time Marvel retracts their "rotating cast" crap and admits that the new team is Beast, White Queen, Cyclops, Wolverine, Colossus and the usual do nothing Nightcrawler. Those are the only ones who makes every issue.

Nightcrawler contributed fruit for Emma. He should learn how to brew coffee and then he could join the X-Club.

That being said, directing statements to individual fan bases online? At least he's trying to acknowlege his audience. Good job by the editor to hype the book. Unfortunately, all the hype and no delivering on it the past year has made me skeptical of whatever's said in Lowe's interviews.

[Swashbuckler]

Nightcrawler contributed fruit for Emma. He should learn how to brew coffee and then he could join the X-Club.

That being said, directing statements to individual fan bases online? At least he's trying to acknowlege his audience. Good job by the editor to hype the book. Unfortunately, all the hype and no delivering on it the past year has made me skeptical of whatever's said in Lowe's interviews.

Precisely. I don't believe a word he says ever. It's the wrong way to promote a title. I feel like he's not clever enough to be honest and not give it all away.

[Dagger]

I agree. Blahniks are affronts to any sensibility. However, cultural and racial boundaries do not excuse the Uggery.

LOL. Tis true. Ahh, Dani and her many, many fashion mishaps. Who else besides aging bikers/rockstars wears fringe on their brown pleather jackets?

[Novaya Havoc]

LOL. Tis true. Ahh, Dani and her many, many fashion mishaps. Who else besides aging bikers/rockstars wears fringe on their brown pleather jackets?

:frown:

It's so cruel to remind us of New Excalibur Alan Blair on Essential Dazzler: The New Testament Day.

[drwho]

maybe dani is possessed by the punisher's ghost since she is pupiless.

[darknessatnoon]

Precisely. I don't believe a word he says ever. It's the wrong way to promote a title. I feel like he's not clever enough to be honest and not give it all away.

He should stop talking to us like we're 12 year olds.

[Dagger]

:frown:

It's so cruel to remind us of New Excalibur Alan Blair on Essential Dazzler: The New Testament Day.
LOL. I wonder how Jesus feels knowing his book is about to be outsold by Essential Dazzler: The New Testament?

[alf_to_the_rescue]

im personally glad that beast is getting to shine again in uncanny, hes been forgotten for years. quite frankly if you arent happy with the "team" on uncanny stop reading it, im pretty happy with the characters that in.


....x-fans are weird.

I corrected your spelling and yeah, you'll get used to it, don't worry.

[Dagger]

im personally glad that beast is getting to shine again in uncanny, hes been forgotten for years. quite frankly if you arent happy with the "team" on uncanny stop reading it, im pretty happy with the characters that in.


....x-fans are wierd.

http://www.ratemyeverything.net/image/5529/0/STFU_and_GTFO.ashx

[Prodigy55]

Someone please shit on zinjak's face.

[Novaya Havoc]

LOL. I wonder how Jesus feels knowing his book is about to be outsold by Essential Dazzler: The New Testament?

It won't. Hell, let's even look at Lowe's silly statement, which continues the circle-jerk of justifying crappy publications via "sales" figures.

"We keep publishing Wolverine books, because we sell so many!"

ANECDOTE, ACTIVATE! Sales figures are based on distribution orders. Not over-the-counter. An LCS can order 50 copies of each Wolverine title solicited, but not necessarily sell out. In fact, they rarely do. You'll see multiples of the Wolverine titles on the stands and then usually get pushed to the back issues bin after so many months.

For example of the inverse effect: today. I pre-ordered a copy of Essential Dazzler Vol. 2. I go to my LCS on release day? They don't have it. They look at me like "Is that out today? Oh, it's probably a distribution error." They didn't order a single copy. Not one. When my LCS had former managers, they ordered about 10 copies of Essential Dazzler Vol. 1, 5 were pull-sold, and the rest were sold out by the end of the day.

The other big Chicago north-side LCS ordered three copies, and all were pulled. "I guess we should have ordered more!" None were on the shelves. Period. Between two large stores in highly populated neighborhoods, there were three "sold" copies of Essential Dazzler Vol. 2, as far as Diamond (or Icv2, when they compile sales) is concerned. Likewise, even if a title sits around on the shelves or moves to the bins, they're still "sales." This is why you see declines; LCS's order less from the distributor if they don't move from the shelves. Sales increase if an issue sells out and they expect to move more issues.

So it irritates me that the entire industry is in this stupid cycle that "Well, look at the numbers! It didn't sell!" or "Look! People really want this new #1, giving this Wolverine title legitimacy!!" Even I -- NOVAYA HAVOC, High Priestess of the Gliteratti -- could not get a freakin' copy of Essential Dazzler I pre-ordered, and only three copies were "sold" in the entirety of Chicago's near-north side today.

I had to get one from the downtown location. And that takes effort. If I didn't care all that much, I never would have even made the purchase today. And the copy I got was the 2nd to last copy available.

So that's my though on Lowe and his "sales" bullshit, re: Wolverine.

[Agent_Torpor]

Someone please shit on zinjak's face.

Heavens!

:eek:

But entirely warranted.

[jester1436]

Heavens!

:eek:

But entirely warranted.

Did you open your mouth because you want to be next?

Pervert.

[darknessatnoon]

It won't. Hell, let's even look at Lowe's silly statement, which continues the circle-jerk of justifying crappy publications via "sales" figures.

"We keep publishing Wolverine books, because we sell so many!"

ANECDOTE, ACTIVATE! Sales figures are based on distribution orders. Not over-the-counter. An LCS can order 50 copies of each Wolverine title solicited, but not necessarily sell out. In fact, they rarely do. You'll see multiples of the Wolverine titles on the stands and then usually get pushed to the back issues bin after so many months.

For example of the inverse effect: today. I pre-ordered a copy of Essential Dazzler Vol. 2. I go to my LCS on release day? They don't have it. They look at me like "Is that out today? Oh, it's probably a distribution error." They didn't order a single copy. Not one. When my LCS had former managers, they ordered about 10 copies of Essential Dazzler Vol. 1, 5 were pull-sold, and the rest were sold out by the end of the day.

The other big Chicago north-side LCS ordered three copies, and all were pulled. "I guess we should have ordered more!" None were on the shelves. Period. Between two large stores in highly populated neighborhoods, there were three "sold" copies of Essential Dazzler Vol. 2, as far as Diamond (or Icv2, when they compile sales) is concerned. Likewise, even if a title sits around on the shelves or moves to the bins, they're still "sales." This is why you see declines; LCS's order less from the distributor if they don't move from the shelves. Sales increase if an issue sells out and they expect to move more issues.

So it irritates me that the entire industry is in this stupid cycle that "Well, look at the numbers! It didn't sell!" or "Look! People really want this new #1, giving this Wolverine title legitimacy!!" Even I -- NOVAYA HAVOC, High Priestess of the Gliteratti -- could not get a freakin' copy of Essential Dazzler I pre-ordered, and only three copies were "sold" in the entirety of Chicago's near-north side today.

I had to get one from the downtown location. And that takes effort. If I didn't care all that much, I never would have even made the purchase today. And the copy I got was the 2nd to last copy available.

So that's my though on Lowe and his "sales" bullshit, re: Wolverine.

So true. I am sick of that Wolverine dodge. Anyway, you are much more cogent about sales than Blade X. Maybe Nick Lowe talks to us like we're children because we're reading comics. Then again, he edits comics for a living so...

[Agent_Torpor]

Did you open your mouth because you want to be next?

Pervert.

Bitch! I'm only into watersports

[darknessatnoon]

The Legacy cover upsets me. I mean, I LOVE Danger almost as much as Denise does, but no one belongs with Rogue and Gambit more than Sage does. Only when she's around has their relationship ever worked.

[Bronze Badger]

I like how Dagger's X symbol is strategically placed over her snooch.

[zinjak]

Someone please shit on zinjak's face.

bring it on fuckers, I"m helping to ruin YOUR book, because you guys own it right? 'cause im gonna keep buying uncanny and keep liking it, so show me what you got because theirs nothing worse you can do me that I am not already doing to you

[Hi-Fi]

Rogue is the star. As it should be.

[Bronze Badger]

bring it on fuckers, im helping to ruin your book because you guys own it because im gonna keep buying uncanny and keep liking it, so show me what you got because theirs nothing worse you can do me that im already doing to you

Zinjak, have you met DiamondHart? You both have much to discuss.

[just another user]

bring it on fuckers, I"m helping to ruin YOUR book, because you guys own it right? 'cause im gonna keep buying uncanny and keep liking it, so show me what you got because theirs nothing worse you can do me that I am not already doing to you

I approve of this zinjak character.

[skatalite]

That Dark X-Men art rules.

[darknessatnoon]

Rogue is the star. As it should be.

She'll never be able to keep Gambit satisfied by herself.

[Bronze Badger]

I approve of this zinjak character.

You would.

[just another user]

That Dark X-Men art rules.

It also makes it pretty obvious that it is indeed Cloak, not Exodus.

Does everyone still think that is Emma in the black?

[Agent_Torpor]

bring it on fuckers, I"m helping to ruin YOUR book, because you guys own it right? 'cause im gonna keep buying uncanny and keep liking it, so show me what you got because theirs nothing worse you can do me that I am not already doing to you

you seem appropriately feisty.

[Aguja]

Danger looks like a man on that cover. Has she pulled a reverse Mister Sinister?

The Dark X-Men look like trash, except Dagger <3

New Mutants continues to be amazing.

[darknessatnoon]

Danger looks like a man on that cover. Has she pulled a reverse Mister Sinister?

The Dark X-Men look like trash, except Dagger <3

New Mutants continues to be amazing.

Sex shouldn't really matter to Danger, should it?

[MIMIC616]

So Mimic now looks and dresses like Angel now?

[darknessatnoon]

So Mimic now looks and dresses like Angel now?

He was all buff and blond and hairy before. When did he change his look?

[Christopher O]

bring it on fuckers, I"m helping to ruin YOUR book, because you guys own it right? 'cause im gonna keep buying uncanny and keep liking it, so show me what you got because theirs nothing worse you can do me that I am not already doing to you

Oh, just stop it. You're making a fool of yourself. It's not that serious.

Anyway, Jae Lee needs to be on Astonishing X-Men.

Immediately.

[Prodigy55]

I'm getting sick of Dodson art! I wish Choi would redo that Legacy cover.

[zinjak]

Oh, just stop it. You're making a fool of yourself. It's not that serious.

Anyway, Jae Lee needs to be on Astonishing X-Men.

Immediately.




you seem to mistake me sir, i could not care less what somebodies opinion of me is on the internet, just getting in to the spirit of things, they did want to shit on my face after all.

[lockerogue]

I'm getting sick of Dodson art! I wish Choi would redo that Legacy cover.

Bitch you know its hot. Rogue is workin that hood and cape like the rent is due tomorrow. Even though I would love a Bachalo and Choi version.

[Christopher O]

they did want to shit on my face after all.
Some people are into that.

[Bronze Badger]

you seem to mistake me sir, i could not care less what somebodies opinion of me is on the internet, just getting in to the spirit of things, they did want to shit on my face after all.

No, I believe there was legitimate interest in sh!tting on your face from certain parties. Besides, why would you decide to tell x-fans they are weird on their own forum. Bad form, sir, bad form.

[zinjak]

well, i consider myself one, but i dont understand the rest of you guys.

[jester1436]

Some people are into that.

*cough*Agent_Torpor*cough*

[cgar]

well, i consider myself one, but i dont understand the rest of you guys.

its the internet dude. people say whatever they want because they can hide behind there computer and make witty little comments. then their buddies we'll help out whenever they feel like chiming in. Just go with it, its not going to go away. BUT ANYWAYS

NICK LOWE interview kinda sucked i just reread it did we get ANY new information. Nay...Niet...NO

[Bronze Badger]

well, i consider myself one, but i dont understand the rest of you guys.

We all have different opinions, some which may seem weird. Some people hate Beast right now. I am not one of them, but I do feel he's being used poorly.

[nightw1ng]

has dodson been taking tips from land and recycling poses and pencils? that legacy cover with rogue looks like exactly like an emma pose he drew before.

[Bronze Badger]

I like how Dagger's X symbol is strategically placed over her snooch.

Seriously, does nobody see that? :eek:

[zinjak]

its the internet dude. people say whatever they want because they can hide behind there computer and make witty little comments. then their buddies we'll help out whenever they feel like chiming in. Just go with it, its not going to go away. BUT ANYWAYS

NICK LOWE interview kinda sucked i just reread it did we get ANY new information. Nay...Niet...NO


because i dont understand how the internet works, thanks.

i was simply explaining my opinion, just like everybody, and then the lynch mob appears, thats the part i dont understand. uncanny is for the big name mutants, the other x titles are for the more obscure guys. i grew up reading beast and liking him, so im glad to see him return to form. i didnt come here to start anything but im not just gonna sit here and take it.

[darknessatnoon]

because i dont understand how the internet works, thanks.

i was simply explaining my opinion, just like everybody, and then the lynch mob appears, thats the part i dont understand. uncanny is for the big name mutants, the other x titles are for the more obscure guys. i grew up reading beast and liking him, so im glad to see him return to form. i didnt come here to start anything but im not just gonna sit here and take it.

Beast is crap but you are welcome to post your wrong opinion in these forums. I like your spunk, kid.

[Christopher O]

because i dont understand how the internet works, thanks.

i was simply explaining my opinion, just like everybody, and then the lynch mob appears, thats the part i dont understand. uncanny is for the big name mutants, the other x titles are for the more obscure guys. i grew up reading beast and liking him, so im glad to see him return to form. i didnt come here to start anything but im not just gonna sit here and take it.
Astonishing is for the big names. Uncanny was meant to be for everyone. That's the expectation and understanding that was created. That's what they aren't living up to. That's why some fans are displeased with it. Honestly, how often must we cover this?

Of course, the latest issue lived up to that expectation, despite the boring parts with Beast.

[tetragene]

I like how Dagger's X symbol is strategically placed over her snooch.

Dagger is obviously copying Dazzler again.

hello? Dazzler's new costume? The starburst symbol over her snooch?

[Hi-Fi]

I'm also glad Rogue is back to her hooded costume. Hoods are sexy.

[Aguja]

Sex shouldn't really matter to Danger, should it?

It shouldn't. But she was certainly pushing those boobs into everyone's face in Astonishing. Perhaps she got tired of not having a bra and decided to just become a man.

[lockerogue]

I'm also glad Rogue is back to her hooded costume. Hoods are sexy.

Thank you Hi-Fi for speaking the truth.

[Bronze Badger]

Dagger is obviously copying Dazzler again.

hello? Dazzler's new costume? The starburst symbol over her snooch?

What other X-Women need logos over their snooch and what would they be?

I'll start, maybe Jean Grey will come back and have the Phoenix symbol over hers.

[zinjak]

Astonishing is for the big names. Uncanny was meant to be for everyone. That's the expectation and understanding that was created. That's what they aren't living up to. That's why some fans are displeased with it. Honestly, how often must we cover this?

Of course, the latest issue lived up to that expectation, despite the boring parts with Beast.

well thats the problem then, they shouldnt have ever said uncanny was for everybody, uncanny was the first x men title there was, it should be about the big names. also im afraid you have to cover it for me because i just go to the store and pick up what i like, i havent really been following "the buzz" of comics until recently.

[darknessatnoon]

Is Rogue now a hippie?

Her, Gambit and Danger at Haight-Ashbury!

[Assemble]

I understand people love Rouge and Dazzler, but seriously, this Dark X-Men thing is a big deal. Not only does the cover look amazing, but this is going to be incredible, and other than the preview from the other day, it's kind of unexpected still.

[Washout]

Is Rogue now a hippie?

Her, Gambit and Danger at Haight-Ashbury!

I'm assuming they think people will be tired of Golden Gate bridge shots, so they put another recognizable landmark in San Fran.

[just another user]

I understand people love Rouge and Dazzler, but seriously, this Dark X-Men thing is a big deal. Not only does the cover look amazing, but this is going to be incredible, and other than the preview from the other day, it's kind of unexpected still.

It does look good. Is this also the first confirmation that it is a stand alone book, as I previously remember them announcing it on here as an arc within Uncanny?

[Assemble]

It does look good. Is this also the first confirmation that it is a stand alone book, as I previously remember them announcing it on here as an arc within Uncanny?

Yeah, Someone, Cant remember who, Said the Dodson cover was just the July issue of Uncanny

[alf_to_the_rescue]

I'm also glad Rogue is back to her hooded costume. Hoods are sexy.

You find sleepwalker sexy? Just pointing it out. Thats all.

[ZeoVGM]

It won't. Hell, let's even look at Lowe's silly statement, which continues the circle-jerk of justifying crappy publications via "sales" figures.

"We keep publishing Wolverine books, because we sell so many!"

Oh stop. We both know the simple fact: if Marvel didn't think sales were good, they would NOT give us so much Wolverine. It wasn't silly what he said. It was fact. They've been doing this for a long time now. They know what they're doing.

So put away the hyperbolic anger at the fact that a comic book company puts a character that is factually known to sell books in a lot of books. It's still a business.

You personally don't like that they do it. But don't try to call him on for stating the FACT as to why they do it.

And aside from that, he's not justifying "crappy publications". What crap are you talking about? Origins being mediocre?

Wolverine = great.
Weapon X = fantastic first issue, and should continue down that path, considering who is writing it.
X-Force = damn good book that no one thought would end up being good.
First Class = very fun.
New Avengers = awesome since the Secret Invasion tie-ins ended.

On another note, I'm shocked some people think Dark X-Men will suck. Marvel has done a fantastic job with Dark Reign so far so relax and at least give it a chance. It has Namor, Cloak, and Dagger on a freaking X-Men team. That's awesome.

[Steven F.]

Oh stop. We both know the simple fact: if Marvel didn't think sales were good, they would NOT give us so much Wolverine. It wasn't silly what he said. It was fact. They've been doing this for a long time now. They know what they're doing.

So put away the hyperbolic anger at the fact that a comic book company puts a character that is factually known to sell books in a lot of books. It's still a business.

You personally don't like that they do it. But don't try to call him on for stating the FACT as to why they do it.

And aside from that, he's not justifying "crappy publications". What crap are you talking about? Origins being mediocre?

Wolverine = great.
Weapon X = fantastic first issue, and should continue down that path, considering who is writing it.
X-Force = damn good book that no one though would end up being good.
First Class = very fun.
New Avengers = awesome since the Secret Invasion tie-ins ended.

On another note, I'm shocked some people think Dark X-Men will suck. Marvel has done a fantastic job with Dark Reign so far so relax and at least give it a chance. It has Namor, Cloak, and Dagger on a freaking X-Men team. That's awesome.

...and you my friend, are making sense. Bravo.

[Novaya Havoc]

oops... double post

[Novaya Havoc]

Oh stop. We both know the simple fact: if Marvel didn't think sales were good, they would NOT give us so much Wolverine. It wasn't silly what he said. It was fact. They've been doing this for a long time now. They know what they're doing.

So put away the hyperbolic anger at the fact that a comic book company puts a character that is factually known to sell books in a lot of books. It's still a business.

You personally don't like that they do it. But don't try to call him on for stating the FACT as to why they do it.

And aside from that, he's not justifying "crappy publications". What crap are you talking about? Origins being mediocre?

Wolverine = great.
Weapon X = fantastic first issue, and should continue down that path, considering who is writing it.
X-Force = damn good book that no one though would end up being good.
First Class = very fun.
New Avengers = awesome since the Secret Invasion tie-ins ended.


No.

The point is that when you create a self-fulfilling prophecy for demand, then -- shock! -- that's where the market lies. I love fallacious statistics!

Are comics sales shrinking or expanding? Yes, granted, there are external factors as to why they're shrinking over expanding, but where are the new readers coming in? What's the age-range of this board? Are we seeing 13-18 year olds dominating this board? No.

When did I start posting on online communities? Age 10. In the age a lot of people did, due to the Fox X-Men cartoon. Are the movies moving some books? Sure. Are they moving them in the way that occurred during the late 80's/Early 90's? No. And yet, the market remains smaller than ever, and largely shrinking.

Marvel purposefully puts their eggs in one basket, and then tosses some new side-titles out there but never gives them the same PR push or crossover appeal. And the characters they do give such pushes for -- Cable is a prime example -- still manage to flounder.

Is Wolverine appealing to an existing base? Yes. Is it wrong to pander to the existing base? No. But is it a poor policy to say "This property does marginally well given the shrinking market, so let's continue to milk it until depletion?" Yes.

A real life anecdote, elsewhere: The U.S. government has been trying to push $1 coins for decades. The Susan B. Anthony didn't work because it looked like quarters. The Sacajawea doesn't work. The new Presidential coins don't work, even though they give them "UNIQUE LIMITED EDITION COVERS!!!" on the cameo face. Why? Because they don't just take the $1 bills out of circulation. And the U.S. Government could save millions of dollars in printing costs by taking $1 bill notes out of circulation and replacing them fully with coins that would expand the market and increase demand.

Marvel continues to push characters that the fandom says "Tired. New please." But when it exists in a culture that constantly pushes the "Wolverine" trademark and encourages LCS's to BUY BUY BUY!!! from the distributor even though the issues purchased for sale do gradually decline because they don't SELL SELL SELL! from the racks, then what? Never mind they continue to re-boot concepts like "Cable," "New Mutants," and what-have-you when they simply do not work.

No risks happen. No new products are introduced to the market. There are no more out-of-the-box titles, because they receive little push, limited circulation, and cannot circulate or gain ground in the market much like the dollar coins the U.S. Govt mints year after year. The system in place does not allow it.

So when Lowe says "Wolverine works because he SELLS!" it's because there's a system in place allowing it to be purchased in mass quantities because it's a "safe" investment. Then the world wonders why sales decline and interest wanes across the line, and why there might be unrest at the same 10 or so characters dominating not just a franchise, but the entire published body of work from a major publisher.

That's bogus. We could also cripple the distribution of all brands of denim jeans from the market except Levis, and I'm certain everyone would want multiple styles of the jeans Levis offers since they're readily available. Doesn't mean new introductions into the market wouldn't sell -- it just means that without a steady supply of alternatives, there will never be a brand familiarity and thus, more demand.

[Deep_Sleeper]

The Daken/Wolverine costume looks very cool drawn by Jae Lee. I'm pretty sure it'd look horrendous if anyone else drew it.

[DeniseXfrost]

The Legacy cover upsets me. I mean, I LOVE Danger almost as much as Denise does, but no one belongs with Rogue and Gambit more than Sage does. Only when she's around has their relationship ever worked.
Are you telling me that sage is willing to have sex with Gambit for Rogue?

[Bronze Badger]

Are you telling me that sage is willing to have sex with Gambit for Rogue?

All I'm telling you is that I'm willing to read such an interesting premise.

[Frisky Dingo]

It does look good. Is this also the first confirmation that it is a stand alone book, as I previously remember them announcing it on here as an arc within Uncanny?

Yeah I'm a little confused as to why people aren't talking about this more. At the ECCC (the links are provided in this article) it was stated that Dark X-Men wasn't separate at all and it was a part of Uncanny. However, despite that Nick Lowe wouldn't clear things up in this interview and even though there is no mention about this in the interview the captain for the Dark X-Men image reads: "Dark X-Men: The Beginning" #1.

So what gives? Confusion over at Marvel or misdirection?

[Bronze Badger]

Yeah I'm a little confused as to why people aren't talking about this more. At the ECCC (the links are provided in this article) it was stated that Dark X-Men wasn't separate at all and it was a part of Uncanny. However, despite that Nick Lowe wouldn't clear things up in this interview and even though there is no mention about this in the interview the captain for the Dark X-Men image reads: "Dark X-Men: The Beginning" #1.

So what gives? Confusion over at Marvel or misdirection?

It's only misdirection until some LCS' place their order for it. Then it becomes the must have mini-series of the summer.

[DeniseXfrost]

Dagger's custome is very welcome isn't it? Target on her clitoris and all.

[Bronze Badger]

Dagger's custome is very welcome isn't it? Target on her clitoris and all.

I've been pointing it out all day. Whoever came up with her new duds was like, "I know her cleavage is spilling out, I wonder what else will highlight her sexuality. I know, I'll place her X symbol/communication device on her snooch."

Somewhere DiamondHart is crying because of the exploitation.

[Omega Alpha]

Yeah I'm a little confused as to why people aren't talking about this more. At the ECCC (the links are provided in this article) it was stated that Dark X-Men wasn't separate at all and it was a part of Uncanny. However, despite that Nick Lowe wouldn't clear things up in this interview and even though there is no mention about this in the interview the captain for the Dark X-Men image reads: "Dark X-Men: The Beginning" #1.

So what gives? Confusion over at Marvel or misdirection?

It isn't a separate title. It's a one-shot that almost certainly consists of nothing more than the team getting assembled.

And really, Mike? Rogue with Gambit and Danger? This is the bold new direction? :rolleyes:

Speaking of :rolleyes: :

Think about it: who on the X-Men can match the Sentry? Or Ares? Colossus is strong, but he’s not that strong

Is Lowe playing stupid or he actually thinks Ares is Thor or that all Gods are equally powerful? Colossus is much stronger and much less likely to suffer injury. Really, there's at least half a dozen X-men, not counting the ones not on the team currently, that should be able to take him.

[rwsmith]

No.

The point is that when you create a self-fulfilling prophecy for demand, then -- shock! -- that's where the market lies. I love fallacious statistics!

Are comics sales shrinking or expanding? Yes, granted, there are external factors as to why they're shrinking over expanding, but where are the new readers coming in? What's the age-range of this board? Are we seeing 13-18 year olds dominating this board? No.

When did I start posting on online communities? Age 10. In the age a lot of people did, due to the Fox X-Men cartoon. Are the movies moving some books? Sure. Are they moving them in the way that occurred during the late 80's/Early 90's? No. And yet, the market remains smaller than ever, and largely shrinking.

Marvel purposefully puts their eggs in one basket, and then tosses some new side-titles out there but never gives them the same PR push or crossover appeal. And the characters they do give such pushes for -- Cable is a prime example -- still manage to flounder.

Is Wolverine appealing to an existing base? Yes. Is it wrong to pander to the existing base? No. But is it a poor policy to say "This property does marginally well given the shrinking market, so let's continue to milk it until depletion?" Yes.

A real life anecdote, elsewhere: The U.S. government has been trying to push $1 coins for decades. The Susan B. Anthony didn't work because it looked like quarters. The Sacajawea doesn't work. The new Presidential coins don't work, even though they give them "UNIQUE LIMITED EDITION COVERS!!!" on the cameo face. Why? Because they don't just take the $1 bills out of circulation. And the U.S. Government could save millions of dollars in printing costs by taking $1 bill notes out of circulation and replacing them fully with coins that would expand the market and increase demand.

Marvel continues to push characters that the fandom says "Tired. New please." But when it exists in a culture that constantly pushes the "Wolverine" trademark and encourages LCS's to BUY BUY BUY!!! from the distributor even though the issues purchased for sale do gradually decline because they don't SELL SELL SELL! from the racks, then what? Never mind they continue to re-boot concepts like "Cable," "New Mutants," and what-have-you when they simply do not work.

No risks happen. No new products are introduced to the market. There are no more out-of-the-box titles, because they receive little push, limited circulation, and cannot circulate or gain ground in the market much like the dollar coins the U.S. Govt mints year after year. The system in place does not allow it.

So when Lowe says "Wolverine works because he SELLS!" it's because there's a system in place allowing it to be purchased in mass quantities because it's a "safe" investment. Then the world wonders why sales decline and interest wanes across the line, and why there might be unrest at the same 10 or so characters dominating not just a franchise, but the entire published body of work from a major publisher.

That's bogus. We could also cripple the distribution of all brands of denim jeans from the market except Levis, and I'm certain everyone would want multiple styles of the jeans Levis offers since they're readily available. Doesn't mean new introductions into the market wouldn't sell -- it just means that without a steady supply of alternatives, there will never be a brand familiarity and thus, more demand.

Um...Marvel is trying lots of new things like the Stephen King and Anita Blake books as well as other such "out of the box" properties. In addition, they have been promoting new and different superhero characters, just not the ones you seem to want them to. Daken, Pixie and X-23 are a few X-characters who spring to mind, as well as Sentry, Marvel Boy, Ares, all of Nick Fury's Secret Warriors and even old characters like Iron Fist, Moon Knight and Luke Cage who have been made somewhat popular again in the mainstream Marvel U.

It's not like the only characters they push are Wolverine and Spider-man. They just sell more than the other characters they're trying to push. And as for whoever made the comment about Marvel being wrong about the sales on books featuring Wolverine because they still see plenty on the shelves at their LCS, keep in mind that those copies were already sold by Marvel to the LCS. So they got paid regardless of whether the LCS sells them or not.

Despite all of that, it's not an either/or scenario. It's not like Marvel can't push other characters just because they're pushing Wolverine (in fact, as I pointed out, they are). So, the real question is this: Who are they not promoting that you think they should be? And would a significant enough number of fans agree with your choice(s) and buy those books?

[creaky]

Um...Marvel is trying lots of new things like the Stephen King and Anita Blake books as well as other such "out of the box" properties.

Did you just call Stephen King "out of the box"??

[rwsmith]

I meant different as in "non-superhero" comics, which is what I assumed Novaya was talking about. Maybe I'm wrong and he was really just bitching because Marvel doesn't push Dazzler as much as he'd like, thus in his definition Dazzler = out of the box. I don't know.

[HeckBoy]

Although his presence on the Dark X-Men probably isn't really a good indicator, I think I'd like to see 616 Mimic turn good and join the X-Men [again]. I guess the Exiles version left a good enough taste in my mouth. However, with Rogue's purported return, it would make Mimic redundant as they essentially share the same type of power (with different conditions of course).

Also, I'd like to see the power of the X-Army in full force. I kinda liked that presence of numbers during their SI tie-in, and I think that should be enough to subdue/distract the likes of the Sentry, and esp. Ares.

[zinjak]

Did you just call Stephen King "out of the box"??


i have the issue of wolverine your quote is from

[Bronze Badger]

Dagger's custome is very welcome isn't it? Target on her clitoris and all.

Perhaps Cloak needs help finding her G-spot?

[DeniseXfrost]

Perhaps Cloak needs help finding her G-spot?
Better response.

[creaky]

i have the issue of wolverine your quote is from

Lovely! Everyone should have that issue! <3

[Bronze Badger]

Better response.

I can't promise that they will all be winners, but I will promise that I will try. :biggrin:

[rwsmith]

I do agree with Novaya about Cable, though. The guy's had enough chances, yet it really looks like Marvel doesn't know what to do with him. He used to be popular. Marvel has been unable to re-ignite that spark, though. So they bounce him around in the timestream with Hope and keep trying to tell us how important and integral his book is to the future of mutantkind. Meanwhile no one cares and everyone's just saying, "yeah, yeah...wake me up when they get back."

I liked him best when he was with the New Mutants and then later with the X-men (especially under Mike Carey in recent years). On his own it seems like he just isn't interesting enough to hold his own book. Perhaps his story has been told and it's time to just let him go? He's averted his future. Mission accomplished. If this was Back to the Future he would simply fade out of existence.

I like the character and personally think he'd be cool back in the present as an X-man, but it doesn't seem like there are many people out there who feel the same way. Most are either apathetic towards him or just despise him for reminding them of everything that they hated about the X-books in the 90's (i.e., pouches, shoulder pads, time-travel, Summers familly tree nonsense, and really big guns). So maybe it's time to let him make the ultimate sacrifice for the greater good of the mutant race?

[Bronze Badger]

I do agree with Novaya about Cable, though. The guy's had enough chances, yet it really looks like Marvel doesn't know what to do with him. He used to be popular. Marvel has been unable to re-ignite that spark, though. So they bounce him around in the timestream with Hope and keep trying to tell us how important and integral his book is to the future of mutantkind. Meanwhile no one cares and everyone's just saying, "yeah, yeah...wake me up when they get back."

I liked him best when he was with the New Mutants and then later with the X-men (especially under Mike Carey in recent years). On his own it seems like he just isn't interesting enough to hold his own book. Perhaps his story has been told and it's time to just let him go? He's averted his future. Mission accomplished. If this was Back to the Future he would simply fade out of existence.

I like the character and personally think he'd be cool back in the present as an X-man, but it doesn't seem like there are many people out there who feel the same way. Most are either apathetic towards him or just despise him for reminding them of everything that they hated about the X-books in the 90's (i.e., pouches, shoulder pads, time-travel, Summers familly tree nonsense, and really big guns). So maybe it's time to let him make the ultimate sacrifice for the greater good of the mutant race?

Professor X and Cable should die. There stories have been told ad naseum. They both had their hand in preserving Hope alive, now they must make way for the new direction of the X-Men.

[zinjak]

Lovely! Everyone should have that issue! <3

that entire period of time spat out some great wolverine stuff, very urban, im glad to see his new series returning to that.

[zinjak]

I do agree with Novaya about Cable, though. The guy's had enough chances, yet it really looks like Marvel doesn't know what to do with him. He used to be popular. Marvel has been unable to re-ignite that spark, though. So they bounce him around in the timestream with Hope and keep trying to tell us how important and integral his book is to the future of mutantkind. Meanwhile no one cares and everyone's just saying, "yeah, yeah...wake me up when they get back."

I liked him best when he was with the New Mutants and then later with the X-men (especially under Mike Carey in recent years). On his own it seems like he just isn't interesting enough to hold his own book. Perhaps his story has been told and it's time to just let him go? He's averted his future. Mission accomplished. If this was Back to the Future he would simply fade out of existence.

I like the character and personally think he'd be cool back in the present as an X-man, but it doesn't seem like there are many people out there who feel the same way. Most are either apathetic towards him or just despise him for reminding them of everything that they hated about the X-books in the 90's (i.e., pouches, shoulder pads, time-travel, Summers familly tree nonsense, and really big guns). So maybe it's time to let him make the ultimate sacrifice for the greater good of the mutant race?

or just put him back in deadpools book. although his time in adjectivless x-men was something i enjoyed (right before messiah complex)

[Bronze Badger]

that entire period of time spat out some great wolverine stuff, very urban, im glad to see his new series returning to that.

Welcome to the boards Zinjak! Tell us about yourself. How long have you enjoyed X-Men? Why is your avatar Ghost Rider, did you lose a wager?

[zinjak]

Welcome to the boards Zinjak! Tell us about yourself. How long have you enjoyed X-Men? Why is your avatar Ghost Rider, did you lose a wager?
GR is my favorite marvel character<.<

ive been reading comics since i was seven, that was ...1991 i guess, X-men and spider-man got me in to comics.

[Frisky Dingo]

It isn't a separate title. It's a one-shot that almost certainly consists of nothing more than the team getting assembled.

Yeah, I'm figuring it's just a one shot, regardless that's still a separate title. It doesn't jive with what Fraction was saying at the ECCC, a couple of differrent times, that the Dark X-Men stuff was going to be contained to Uncanny. But then Lowe's being all secretive about the Dark X-Men in this interview. Then they just toss that art up there with that caption and no explanation. Not a big deal but they should just come up with one consistent message about the whole thing.

[Omega Alpha]

But Lowe is sending mixed messages about everything.

Of course they are going to hype that. But I strongly doubt this will last more this one-shot plus one or at most two issues. They are not going to make their biggest summer crossover about Mimic, Cloak & Dagger, etc, while leaving the likes of Cyclops, Beast and Wolverine out of the picture. Specially because this is supposed to be all about revealing the Cabal, X-force, etc.

[creaky]

that entire period of time spat out some great wolverine stuff, very urban, im glad to see his new series returning to that.

Yes. All it needs now is a dose of Nightcrawler.

[zinjak]

Yes. All it needs now is a dose of Nightcrawler.

i certainly wouldnt object, Kurts my favorite x-man, and wolvie/NC team up stories are usually pretty great (logan and kurt are the third best buddy team in marvel after all)

[creaky]

i certainly wouldnt object, Kurts my favorite x-man, and wolvie/NC team up stories are usually pretty great (logan and kurt are the third best buddy team in marvel after all)

You are clearly good people. Welcome!<3

[Slung]

You are clearly good people. Welcome!<3

Creaky! Don't look at the newbie. Don't even glance at him. They don't like it...you should be very careful about what you do from here on out. The slightest hint that you are going against their wishes...

[creaky]

Creaky! Don't look at the newbie. Don't even glance at him. They don't like it...you should be very careful about what you do from here on out. The slightest hint that you are going against their wishes...

This sounds very intriguing. Tell me more.

[zinjak]

Creaky! Don't look at the newbie. Don't even glance at him. They don't like it...you should be very careful about what you do from here on out. The slightest hint that you are going against their wishes...



They? ohhhh you mean Those Who Sit Above in Shadow, feeding on the never ending cycle of our misery's

[creaky]

They? ohhhh you mean Those Who Sit Above in Shadow, feeding on the never ending cycle of our misery's

What do the X-editors have to do with this?

[Bronze Badger]

What do the X-editors have to do with this?

This path is fraught with peril.

[Anna]

I like the cape on Rogue, and am glad to see that Danger survives.

[darknessatnoon]

Are you telling me that sage is willing to have sex with Gambit for Rogue?

She has before.

[Verminous]

He should stop talking to us like we're 12 year olds.

http://www.ratemyeverything.net/image/5529/0/STFU_and_GTFO.ashx

Someone please shit on zinjak's face.

Heavens!

:eek:

But entirely warranted.

Did you open your mouth because you want to be next?

Pervert.

I like how Dagger's X symbol is strategically placed over her snooch.

I love the irony of reading the initial post and then the complete maturity that follows. Most amusing.

[Shyft]

that Dark X-Men cover is f*%king amazing. Love me some Namor, and Dagger looks awesome. They still manage to make Cloak look really odd, though.

[tetragene]

I have to be honest--I'm really not THAT intrigued by this Dark X-Men thing. If it were actually more like Dark Avengers--where these characters were taking on the personas of real X-Men characters which you know would result in a X-Men vs. Dark X-Men fight of real character vs faux character--then yeah, that might be fun.

But meh--X-Force pretty much has the "dark" thing covered. I'd be interested in Cloak on the X-ranks because his teleportation and cloak are cool and a MUCH better alternative to Pixie. But Dagger not so much--since Dazzler has light covered in a much greater spectrum than her (shields, holograms, lasers, beams etc). Namor holds no interest for me whatsoever unless he's going to try and strongarm the mutant community away from Cyclops/the real X-Men.

I'll wait and see--but I'm not seeing anything to get that jazzed about just because of the particular characters involved.

[.LuckyStar.]

LOL! Poor LuckyStar was shot down by not mentioning the other Uncanny X-Bores Colossus, Angel, and Pixie. It's the CBR equivalent of not being super specific when you ask a genie for a wish, and it blows up in your face. lolz.

And I'd prefer a 4-part arc about Kitty starving in a bullet to the X-Club.

LOL mea culpa. I've only thought of the most boring ones! Now they admit that Cyclops, Emma Frost and Beast are central. So much for an ensemble cast.

Oh, I'm so excited about Legacy now, but that Dodson cover is fugly. I hate his art! This got to be one the ugliest Gambit I've ever seen. lol And I don't care about these Dark X-Men.

[darknessatnoon]

LOL mea culpa. I've only thought of the most boring ones! Now they admit that Cyclops, Emma Frost and Beast are central. So much for an ensemble cast.

Oh, I'm so excited about Legacy now, but that Dodson cover is fugly. I hate his art! This got to be one the ugliest Gambit I've ever seen. lol And I don't care about these Dark X-Men.

What do you think about Danger displacing Sage in Legacy? She's already been displaced by Kavita Rao in Uncanny and Claudine in Wolverine Origins.

[timbox]

What do you think about Danger displacing Sage in Legacy? She's already been displaced by Kavita Rao in Uncanny and Claudine in Wolverine Origins.

And Morph in Exiles.

[.LuckyStar.]

What do you think about Danger displacing Sage in Legacy? She's already been displaced by Kavita Rao in Uncanny and Claudine in Wolverine Origins.

And Morph in Exiles.

Not to mention Mercedes. There is cleary an Anti-Sage conspiracy going on at the X-Office.

[darknessatnoon]

And Morph in Exiles.

You really know how to kick a man when he's down.

[mimic_616]

I have to be honest--I'm really not THAT intrigued by this Dark X-Men thing. If it were actually more like Dark Avengers--where these characters were taking on the personas of real X-Men characters which you know would result in a X-Men vs. Dark X-Men fight of real character vs faux character--then yeah, that might be fun.


What Daken in Wolverine's costume and Mimic in Angel's costume dosen't count? :confused:

[timbox]

Not to mention Mercedes. There is cleary an Anti-Sage conspiracy going on at the X-Office.

And Selene in the Uncanny Annual. The lies go on and on.

[AcesX1X]

sage is the sacrificial lamb.

namor is also very attractive.

[tetragene]

What Daken in Wolverine's costume and Mimic in Angel's costume dosen't count? :confused:

2 out of the 7 members do not count, no, lol. And Mimic's costume is so similar to his old one--the hair out and the large X on the torso--I thought it was a play on his old costume, not an Angel one.

Namor, Emma, Prof X, Dagger & Cloak are not emulating anyone--they look exactly like themselves.

[Christopher O]

In the image by Jae Lee, Mimic seems to be wearing Angel's costume--though we can't see most of it. I think that's what he's referring to.

[AcesX1X]

In the image by Jae Lee, Mimic seems to be wearing Angel's costume--though we can't see most of it. I think that's what he's referring to.

i hope mimic has done something about those ridiculous toes of his.

[just another user]

i hope mimic has done something about those ridiculous toes of his.

Do you have any scans of his feet?

[jarrod]

I CANNNOT WAIT 4 Kitty Pryde: Day 84!!!!11!<3<3

[AcesX1X]

Do you have any scans of his feet?

look at this creep. do you see how disgusting his feet are?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/102153-36883-mimic_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/98728-140992-mimic.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/79736-10643-mimic.jpg

[just another user]

look at this creep. do you see how disgusting his feet are?

I think he has nice feet.

also nice hands.

[AcesX1X]

I think he has nice feet.

also nice hands.

he doesn't wash them you know. he is barefoot, jau. employ some logic. do you know how dirty he is.

[Pugfugly]

I think he has nice feet.

also nice hands.

I've always been confused by Mimic. Is he stuck with the O-5's powers, or can he "mimic" the abilities of any mutants around him?

[AcesX1X]

I've always been confused by Mimic. Is he stuck with the O-5's powers, or can he "mimic" the abilities of any mutants around him?

he's not very good at his concept, is he.

[just another user]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/98728-140992-mimic.jpg

Anybody fancy making me an avatar of Scotty and Bobby?

[Omega Alpha]

I have to be honest--I'm really not THAT intrigued by this Dark X-Men thing. If it were actually more like Dark Avengers--where these characters were taking on the personas of real X-Men characters which you know would result in a X-Men vs. Dark X-Men fight of real character vs faux character--then yeah, that might be fun.

But meh--X-Force pretty much has the "dark" thing covered.

My thoughts exactly. This has "stupid and cheap gimmick" written all over it.

[just another user]

My thoughts exactly. This has "stupid and cheap gimmick" written all over it.

Tell us more about how you feel about the Dark X-Men

[Prodigy55]

Dagger is not supposed to be a Dark X-Man :(
She is made out of holy light!

[timbox]

Anybody fancy making me an avatar of Scotty and Bobby?

I almost hope this is not what you meant.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6901/25268983.png

[just another user]

I almost hope this is not what you meant.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6901/25268983.png

You rule! It is so cute!

[Omega Alpha]

Tell us more about how you feel about the Dark X-Men

The Dark X-men are responsible for OMD, JFK, MLK, and everything bad that has happened in the world since 1922.

[Bronze Badger]

The Dark X-men are responsible for OMD, JFK, MLK, and everything bad that has happened in the world since 1922.

And crocs. I hate those damn shoes.

[Omega Alpha]

And crocs. I hate those damn shoes.

If it is bad, and has happened after 1922 (though there are reports that indicate they might be involved in tragedies dating back to the XVII century), it's their fault.

[tetragene]

Dagger is not supposed to exist :mad:
Holy Light Goddess Dazzler negates her existance!

corrected :tongue:

[Agent_Torpor]

I think he has nice feet.

also nice hands.

Better than Boom-Boom's crusted feets.

[Agent_Torpor]

I almost hope this is not what you meant.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6901/25268983.png

LOL! Was that drawn with a fat marker? The detail is Bachalo-level.

[mimic_616]

look at this creep. do you see how disgusting his feet are?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/102153-36883-mimic_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/98728-140992-mimic.jpg


Well Beast is responsible for the feet as Calvin copied his powers, so its really Hank your hating. :wink:

I've always been confused by Mimic. Is he stuck with the O-5's powers, or can he "mimic" the abilities of any mutants around him?

From what I can tell he can copy more than 5 powers at one time. If you check out Excalibur #123 you'll see Mimic copy the powers of Nightcrawler, Colossus and Kitty while still having the powers of the original X-Men.

he's not very good at his concept, is he.

What's wrong with his concept? :confused:

[streator]

all of the preview art looks good.

[ProfeZZor X]

Nick Lowe is about as useful as belly button lint. Why does CBR bother interviewing him if he's not going to give straight answers, or give teasers for upcoming issues Real teasers, and not some "you better be lucky I'm telling you this fanboy" answer...

[DeniseXfrost]

namor is also very attractive.
I agree <3

[Aguja]

Emma looks like an emaciated prostitute on that cover. Clearly black is NOT her colour.

[tetragene]

Emma looks like an emaciated prostitute on that cover. Clearly black is NOT her colour.

I'm guessing they made her costume black so people wouldn't get her confused with Dagger... 'cause God knows we can have a million brunette's running around but you throw more than 1 blonde in the mix and everyone will get them confused! :eek:

I agree though--looks bad on her.

[Falconen]

I equate Nick Lowe's X Interviews to the Behind the Eclipse Interviews for HEROES. They suck, do not really offer anything new, and if they do, it is usually smartassed or purposefully misleading. The only thing good about them is the preview pics, covers, and possible interior art.

And on that note.. the Dark X-Men look very interesting. I see Dagger is still wearing her outfit that points to her Hoohah. For being a person who is supposed to represent and wield "Pure" light, she seems to be into revealing her cleavage, flat tummy and brazillain to the world. Maybe that is her true power. She doesn't stun them with Light Daggers, she stuns them with Exposure!

[FiddleFaddle]

I'm also glad Rogue is back to her hooded costume. Hoods are sexy.

I'm also very pleased!

Rogue is always rocking her hood!