X-Factor 42 Review and Spoilers

[ANewHope]

This might have been the funniest comic I have ever read. Bloody brilliant.

The conversation between Monet and Siryn was classic. "I don't hate everybody. I think I'm better than everybody, It's completely different."

We even had a serious moment between Guido and Rictor, where Guido asks him whether he has a death wish or not, which he implied with "suicide by cops".

I love any book that takes place in a bleak future, and the Summer's Rebellion is starting off extremely strong. Whenever there are sentinels in my Xmen comics, I'm literally cheering. I can never get enough of them.

Ruby summers is pretty cool, does anyone know when her first appearance was? And the best line was from Jamie "Yeap you're definitely related to Cyclops, all right. Apparently judgemental arrogance is a genetic trait."

A definite 9 out of 10. The dialogue is hilarious and moves the story forward.

[worstblogever]

Semi-educational reference... Summers Rebellion 411:

Anyone who asks, Who the hell is Daemon (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/daemonxse.htm) guy PAD invented? Well, click on the link, he's an already created character. Nice use of continuity by PAD, as always, with that cameo. Mind you, he's writing his history prior to what was in the XSE series. And Hecat'e (http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Hecate_%28Earth-1191%29)? She's the one who eventually becomes head of the XSE.

Coming together nicely, save for what happens to the "Summers" folk from the "Summers" rebellion in Bishop's future, I guess.

[jester1436]

I want a recording of this "literal cheering."

[drwho]

how is this future supposed to make sense with cables future if there is in fact supposed to be one future only?

[worstblogever]

how is this future supposed to make sense with cables future if there is in fact supposed to be one future only?

Alternate divergent timelines, not the same timeline.

Basic Marvel Multiverse premise, and all that.

[justinkos91]

Any scans? Can't go to my LCS with my broken wrist...

[drwho]

cbr has a preview up of the issue

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/2386/prv2386_pg6.jpg

[ANewHope]

"Literally Cheering" = If I wasn't holding the comic in my hand, my hands would be in the air. And I would be shouting for joy, but I'm doing it silently in my head.

I'm also restraining myself, so I don't damage my comic.

[justinkos91]

cbr has a preview up of the issue

I mean outside of the preview

[Pro]

Alternate divergent timelines, not the same timeline.

Basic Marvel Multiverse premise, and all that.

That's not making much sense really if you think about it.

After "Hope" was born Forge detected only two possible futures.
How would events in that future change Forge's readings in the past?
Why didn't forge detect multiple timelines with mutants in them instead of two if he was detecting the future from the past because from a past perspective he was detecting futures that hadn't yet happened, so why didn't he detect multiple potential futures? Any future branching would have been detected on Forge's Future Detector.

The basic Marvel Multiverse premise was tossed out specifically for Messiah Complex to make fighting to make one of 2 timelines happen of utmost importance.

Never made much sense to me in the first place but if they drop that before this whole Messiah business is over and done with the storyline gets even messier than it already is.

That said I'm eager to see more of the Summers rebellion, always wanted to read the actual story instead of brief summaries by characters.

[yanapryde]

Anyone able to post a scan of that exchange between Siryn and Monet?

I love me som Monet arrogance.
Rightfully arrogant I'll add.

[Leirus]

That's not making much sense really if you think about it.

After "Hope" was born Forge detected only two possible futures.
How would events in that future change Forge's readings in the past?
Why didn't forge detect multiple timelines with mutants in them instead of two if he was detecting the future from the past because from a past perspective he was detecting futures that hadn't yet happened, so why didn't he detect multiple potential futures? Any future branching would have been detected on Forge's Future Detector.

The basic Marvel Multiverse premise was tossed out specifically for Messiah Complex to make fighting to make one of 2 timelines happen of utmost importance.

Never made much sense to me in the first place but if they drop that before this whole Messiah business is over and done with the storyline gets even messier than it already is.

That said I'm eager to see more of the Summers rebellion, always wanted to read the actual story instead of brief summaries by characters.

But this is one of those two, the bad one, where (when?) she killed 1000000 humans, from which Bishop comes from... Cable and Hope are in a brand new one, created when they jumped forward in time, by their own jump... and the effects it (and Bishop´s jump, much more destructive) had in it...

If you want, you can even think that Cable & Hope´s one is an alternate timeline of the "bad" future...

[Pro]

But this is one of those two, the bad one

I know, but you gotta follow the conversation, WBE mentioned this was an alternate timeline, which doesn't make much sense if you follow my reasoning. It can't be an alternate Bishop future.

Any futures branching off should have been registered on Forge's Future Detector regardless of whether they came into being directly after Hope was born or billions of years later, 2 timelines or a million, they'd have to register on Forge's detector since like those 2 he did register they haven't happened yet.
Unless some drastic change will happen to the fabric of time/space, at no point can there be more than 2 future timelines with mutants in them otherwise Forge would have detected them. Which is why I felt that reveal was crap to begin with. Marvel is leading us to believe there are only 2 possible futures, that's the whole basis for Messiah Complex and its follow up stories. Any timeline with mutants branching off from those 2 future timelines throw the etire story out of whack.

[nightw1ng]

easiest explanation is that forge's machine wasn't as thorough as he wanted it to be. with an infinite amount of timelines, there's no way it could check them all. it's not like he's an expert on timelines (like sage, as some posters would say, haha).

[Darth Logan]

Who says Cable and Hope are in one of the two futures with mutants in it? The only mutants we've seen, or even heard about, have been existing characters. Cannonball, Stryfe, Apocalypse, etc. Forge was specifically looking for futures where the Decimation was reversed. We've seen no evidence to suggest that it was in the Cable/Hope future.

[justinkos91]

Anyone able to post a scan of that exchange between Siryn and Monet?

I love me som Monet arrogance.
Rightfully arrogant I'll add.

I also wanna see a scan please

[Michael P]

Anyone else unsure what happened with Longshot there on page 20 there? I suppose it'll be clarified next issue, but right now we seem to have two separate, mutually exclusive outcomes, and I'm not sure which one's supposed to be the "real" one. Frustratingly, it seems like that's exactly what they were going for.

Meanwhile, though, turns out Rictor's a LOLcats fan.

[coconutphone]

Yeah that Longshot scene is intriguing an confusing. Looking forward to more PAD.

Loved the fake preview for the next issue too at the start "Feel free to tell the internet." LOL

Monet was amazing as usual. And if it's wrong to want Jamie to beat the living snot out of an elderly man who's missing limbs, I don't want to be right.

[Slung]

Yeah that Longshot scene is intriguing an confusing. Looking forward to more PAD.

Loved the fake preview for the next issue too at the start "Feel free to tell the internet." LOL

Monet was amazing as usual. And if it's wrong to want Jamie to beat the living snot out of an elderly man who's missing limbs, I don't want to be right.

Can someone explain to me why Scott who has changed costumes rather frequently over his career as a superhero has been wearing the same one for the last 80 years. Emma must die really soon to allow that fashion faux pas to continue for so long.

[Bronze Badger]

Can someone explain to me why Scott who has changed costumes rather frequently over his career as a superhero has been wearing the same one for the last 80 years. Emma must die really soon to allow that fashion faux pas to continue for so long.

Even though he has changed his costume often, he still seems to resort to the kevlar body condom as often as possible.

[longshot3]

I have no idea what the Longshot deal was at the end. Maybe it is a way for us to see how his mutant luck power (he still has that right?) works, by showing us what would happen with bad luck and what would happen with good luck? Just guessing

[The Black Guardian]

Cool issue. Not really sure how it happened, but X-Factor has become my favourite X-Book. The Longshot scene was interesting. Don't know what to make of that. Clearly it has something to do with his luck power, but why show us?

More Monet, please.

[Alex A Sanchez]

I have no idea what the Longshot deal was at the end.


PAD decided to change that panel at the last minute. He added a description of the new scene, but forgot to delete the paragraph containing the description of the old scene. The artist got confused and drew both scenes. :wink:

[Alex A Sanchez]

Jeremy Cox's colors are really starting to bug me- either he needs to try harder or they need to pay him more or get him a new gig or something, because this book did not look good at all.

Example of a mistake: page 21 (2nd to last page of art) panel 3. The Sentinel is flying down upon Ruby, Madrox, Layla, Hacat'e and Daemon, who are running away from the fire. Cox colors the ground as if it is the sky! If any of the characters could fly, the scene might make sense (as the Sentinel could be flying up to chase after them), but they don't and it just looks stupid. I wonder if editorial caught it?

On the other hand, I loved the cover! Yardin does some nice pencil work. Combined with Fairbairn's crumbly inks, the style reminds me a lot of 90's Joe Quesada X-Factor (which I adored). Do these guys to interiors at all on other books, or are they just cover artists?

[Hamdinger]

All the buggered up conflicting timeline stories that pile up into big plot-holes are merely the result of piss-poor writing and piss-poor editorial management. Kind of wish Marvel would just say "No more time travel crap story lines" or have the editors actually map out what the future of the MU will be and let the time travel stories be consistent in dealing with saving the "future" or trying to avoid it etc.

But that would require planning and forethought so it will never happen. I think the job of a comic book editor is to sharpen pencils and download porn all day while pretending to contribute to conference calls.

[Bronze Badger]

All the buggered up conflicting timeline stories that pile up into big plot-holes are merely the result of piss-poor writing and piss-poor editorial management. Kind of wish Marvel would just say "No more time travel crap story lines" or have the editors actually map out what the future of the MU will be and let the time travel stories be consistent in dealing with saving the "future" or trying to avoid it etc.

But that would require planning and forethought so it will never happen. I think the job of a comic book editor is to sharpen pencils and download porn all day while pretending to contribute to conference calls.

That was rant-tastic!

[Hamdinger]

Mmmmm tasty rant. Oops now I gotta wipe up the vile I dribbled on my keyboard...

[Bronze Badger]

Mmmmm tasty rant. Oops now I gotta wipe up the vile I dribbled on my keyboard...

I see you've brought evidence of my persecution of Ultimate fans over on the other board.

[justinkos91]

But that would require planning and forethought so it will never happen. I think the job of a comic book editor is to sharpen pencils and download porn all day while pretending to contribute to conference calls.

This isn't Uncanny X-men

[The Black Guardian]

All the buggered up conflicting timeline stories that pile up into big plot-holes are merely the result of piss-poor writing and piss-poor editorial management. Kind of wish Marvel would just say "No more time travel crap story lines" or have the editors actually map out what the future of the MU will be and let the time travel stories be consistent in dealing with saving the "future" or trying to avoid it etc.

But that would require planning and forethought so it will never happen. I think the job of a comic book editor is to sharpen pencils and download porn all day while pretending to contribute to conference calls.
It would require gross stupidity more than anything else. The future cannot possibly ever be set in stone. Once you do that, every little decision in life becomes meaningless.

[Pro]

Who says Cable and Hope are in one of the two futures with mutants in it? The only mutants we've seen, or even heard about, have been existing characters. Cannonball, Stryfe, Apocalypse, etc. Forge was specifically looking for futures where the Decimation was reversed. We've seen no evidence to suggest that it was in the Cable/Hope future.

Forge was specifically looking for futures with mutant signatures in them. Other than the 2 futures he detected there were no timelines whatsoever with mutants in them. Cannonball was a future version, not the present version time-displaced. Therefore Forge's machine would have detected his mutant signature. Therefore the future Cable/Hope are in is one of the 2 futures Forge detected.

it's not like he's an expert on timelines (like sage, as some posters would say, haha).

Except that invention is Forge's mutant talent. He doesn't need to be an expert.
Of course that begs the question why he hasn't thought up a Mutant Restoration Device ... but that's editorial mandates for you.

This isn't Uncanny X-men

Same editor, same chief editor.
I credit PAD for being able to script entertaining stories despite editorial mandates, something the Uncanny writers have been far less successfull at.
But both books are equally hamstringed by editorial demands.

[Pro]

It would require gross stupidity more than anything else. The future cannot possibly ever be set in stone. Once you do that, every little decision in life becomes meaningless.

And yet that is exactly the premise of the messiah storyline. No matter what anyone does there are only 2 timelines with mutants in them, there is only 1 specific event that splits the mutant future in 2. Nobody is important except this stupid redhead kid no reader gives a crap about because she's been shoved down our collective throats.

[ANewHope]

Umm.. You can't mess up stories that are set in the future.

The future isn't set. We can change the way it goes. (Terminator 2)

What you have to worry about is messing up past continuity with comic books .

And just because you change something, it'll just find another way to happen (Lost)

Unless you create a divergent timeline, with a change so big that things get fucked up (Age of Apocalypse, Professor Xavier is killed before creating the Xmen)

But if this happens... It's in the future!!! So it won't mess with continuity. What you're asking for is an Obsessive Compulsive Nightmare when it comes to mapping continuity for future timeline.

Come on now.

[ANewHope]

And in case anyone is confused.

Cable and Hope's future is one timeline

Bishop's future is the one that Jamie and Layla were sent to, hence the M's on the left side of their face.

And Bishop doesn't know what happens in the future, his knowledge ends after 80 years, so it could still be Cable and Hope's timeline

[Hamdinger]

Now I do love Peter David and his runs on X-Factor and my problem isn't with the book per se but the rampant and shoddy use of the Time Travel story telling device across the whole Marvel U that makes comics such a messy clusterfudge.

It's not so much as "messing up the future cuz it isn't set" stuff, it's about the sucking black plot holes that screw up the continuity of many books simultaneously (both issues published and ongoing stories trying to be told). And the infinite alternate timelines are just used to cover the shitty writing and lazy approach to continuity and not as an exploration of scientific theory.

Oh by the way Lost sucks.

[Pro]

The future isn't set. We can change the way it goes. (Terminator 2)

And just because you change something, it'll just find another way to happen (Lost)

Those two theories are mutually exclusive. On the one hand you're saying the future can be changed, on the other you're suggesting time can't be changed, it'll just find another way to make things happen the way they're destined to happen.

Make up your mind please.

What you have to worry about is messing up past continuity with comic books .

Which golly gosh gee wizz is exactly what they're doing. Why do you think they needed to write a Bishop mini series just to explain away the continuity incongruities? Because Messiah Complex was messing up past continuity.

What you're asking for is an Obsessive Compulsive Nightmare when it comes to mapping continuity for future timeline.

What I'm asking for is some half decent editing on the damn books that doesn't rely on rewriting history just to come up with something that smells fresh but tastes like the same stale crap I've been eating for years just because one editor demands the books cater to his own personal preferences.

[Bronze Badger]

Umm.. You can't mess up stories that are set in the future.

The future isn't set. We can change the way it goes. (Terminator 2)

What you have to worry about is messing up past continuity with comic books .

And just because you change something, it'll just find another way to happen (Lost)

Unless you create a divergent timeline, with a change so big that things get fucked up (Age of Apocalypse, Professor Xavier is killed before creating the Xmen)

But if this happens... It's in the future!!! So it won't mess with continuity. What you're asking for is an Obsessive Compulsive Nightmare when it comes to mapping continuity for future timeline.

Come on now.

I like when someone argues on behalf of fictional science and uses fictional references in support of their arguments. :biggrin:

[Pro]

And in case anyone is confused.

I think you're confused.

[The Black Guardian]

And yet that is exactly the premise of the messiah storyline. No matter what anyone does there are only 2 timelines with mutants in them, there is only 1 specific event that splits the mutant future in 2. Nobody is important except this stupid redhead kid no reader gives a crap about because she's been shoved down our collective throats.
Pretty much my point.

[Arksy]

<3 Peter David.

Very good issue as usual. Very interested to see where this goes. Also want some clarification on what happened with Longshot and Lenore.

[Hamdinger]

What I'm asking for is some half decent editing on the damn books that doesn't rely on rewriting history just to come up with something that smells fresh but tastes like the same stale crap I've been eating for years just because one editor demands the books cater to his own personal preferences.

Here, Here! I couldn't agree more. Pro you're a true, er, umm... Pro!

[The Lucky One]

I have no idea what the Longshot deal was at the end. Maybe it is a way for us to see how his mutant luck power (he still has that right?) works, by showing us what would happen with bad luck and what would happen with good luck? Just guessing

He still has it, although it's not a mutant power -- he got it in a mystical ceremony. But yeah, I interpreted that scene as Longshot's luck having gotten a massive boost... instead of being lucky enough to make good things happen, now his power has actually altered reality to change an unfavorable outcome to an ideal one.

Not sure if that's actually what happened (after the Scarlet Witch, do we need anybody else altering reality so soon, even if it's for the best?), but I'm sure we'll learn more in time. More, please!

-D

[The Lucky One]

Actually, I just realized that if there are only two potential futures with mutants in them, Jamie stands a 50% chance that he's in the 2099 universe, since we know that one still exists and has mutants in it. And if it's 2009 now and he's 80 years in the future, he and Layla and Ruby just need to hold the fort for another decade and they can recruit some help from Spidey 2099! :wink:

-D

[lobsterj]

Thinking of dropping this. I'm really not that enamored of Madrox and it seems like the book should be a solo title most of the time.

Also, that "protection" gag from the Longshot section is so overused and sitcom-y...

[Anna]

...and we still haven't found that second dupe...

[ANewHope]

Those two theories are mutually exclusive. On the one hand you're saying the future can be changed, on the other you're suggesting time can't be changed, it'll just find another way to make things happen the way they're destined to happen.

Make up your mind please..

Those two premises aren't necessarily independent from one another. You can still try to change the future, but eventually, it's going to happen anyway. It's not the same thing, but something very similar.

And you mentioned "destined to happen", which I didn't bring up because it's something entirely different. So you're contradicting yourself by throwing in another variable called Fate/Destiny.

But since you brought it up, "There's no fate but what we make" (T2 again)

[The Lucky One]

But since you brought it up, "There's no fate but what we make" (T2 again)

How 'bout "What about all that talk about screwing up future events, the space-time continuum?"
"Well, I figured... what the hell."

-D

[pariah-1972]

I wish Layla still dressed like a Mall punk/ cute street urchin and she doesn't seem as witty and know it all anymore.

But shes only been back for two issues.

Also i like the art but the faces seem to change slightly especially Siryn.

Also what's up with that preview? sounds like Mr. David wasn't in a very good mood when he wrote that.

[pariah-1972]

All the buggered up conflicting timeline stories that pile up into big plot-holes are merely the result of piss-poor writing and piss-poor editorial management. Kind of wish Marvel would just say "No more time travel crap story lines" or have the editors actually map out what the future of the MU will be and let the time travel stories be consistent in dealing with saving the "future" or trying to avoid it etc.

But that would require planning and forethought so it will never happen. I think the job of a comic book editor is to sharpen pencils and download porn all day while pretending to contribute to conference calls.I would probably make a great editor then ! of course i would screw everything up and actually work knowing me.

[Victorious]

This issue is simply amazing,A-M-A-Z-I-N-G. Kudos to PAD!
It remind me why i love everything PAD’s writes so much! Amazing stories and amazing characterization.
The dialogues in this issue were simply perfect: interesting, funny, convincing, in characters and amazing. Layla and Jamie together written by PAD makes the best dialogues in comics !

So what happens with Longshot in the shoot panel? Maybe it has something to do with characters with probability alterations powers? Maybe that’s why Domino isn’t trusting her powers, because she sees the bad luck alternative? Maybe there’s a future plot about them…

And also, he needs a real name soon…

What I love:

-Terry reaction to John, she wants nothing to do with Jamie.
-How Layla is making sad Jamie happy again (future marriage in the way).
- Lenore and Longshot dioalogues are just too goods.
-The use of existing and forgotten XSE characters: Deamon and Hecate.
- Ruby’s return.
- Future Cyclops.
-Guido and Ric road trip to discover more about John and their little talk.
-The fake preview.

What I don’t like: Absolutely nothing!

Best lines:

- Longshot comment on Lenore apartment.
- “I have some stuff in the nightstand” - Lenore
- “You win…” – Jamie
- “I was gonna say Buffy, but ok..” Jamie
- “Jamie listen carefully. You know the way you usually are with people? Be a different way” – Layla
- “Apparently judgmental arrogance is a genetic trait” – Jamie
- “Am I in bed? And you are with me? Because if so that’s a little disturbing” - Terry
- “She ask for you, I’m rich and you don’t have a thousand bucks” –Monet
- “… Monet and her associates, Curly and Larry….” – Val
- Val’s respond to Monet
- “…out doing something that would probably annoys you” – Terry
- Cyclop’s last line
Basically the whole issue, lol.

[nightw1ng]

i like PAD, but i really think he needs to get a new artist for this book. the past few artists have kind of been lacking energy in their pencils.

and why do they keep on coloring M like she's white or half-white?

[DjMichael691]

Yeah that Longshot scene is intriguing an confusing. Looking forward to more PAD.

Have any one seen the movie Sliding Doors. I think that PAD is doing the same thing that happened with the train doors in the movie.

[Nicoclaws]

"and why do they keep on coloring M like she's white or half-white?"

Hasn't she north african/algerian origins ? She's the right skin-color I think. Comics are confusing.

[Peter David]

I wish Layla still dressed like a Mall punk/ cute street urchin and she doesn't seem as witty and know it all anymore.

But shes only been back for two issues.

Also i like the art but the faces seem to change slightly especially Siryn.

Also what's up with that preview? sounds like Mr. David wasn't in a very good mood when he wrote that.

I was feeling puckish. And curious as to whether anyone would report it as reality.

PAD

[The Lucky One]

And also, he needs a real name soon…

He has a real name. It's "Longshot". :wink:

In seriousness, it's been suggested he might have had a different name before his first mindwipe (along with a wife and children, not that that subplot's ever going to be picked back up), but Longshot is the name people gave him when he first came to Earth, it's what his creator Arize calls him, and it's what all his friends call him. For all intents and purposes, that's his name.

-D

[pariah-1972]

I was feeling puckish. And curious as to whether anyone would report it as reality.

PADThen i stand corrected oh Puckish master.
:tongue:

[4sake]

"and why do they keep on coloring M like she's white or half-white?"

Hasn't she north african/algerian origins ? She's the right skin-color I think. Comics are confusing.

and why do they keep on coloring M like she's white or half-white?"

because they're idiots & did/don't do good research

Hasn't she north african/algerian origins ?
yes

How she goes from this :
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/648390-senza_titolo_3_copia_5_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/senza_titolo_3_copia_5/105-648390/)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29735/687846-jubilee30_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/jubilee30/105-687846/)

To this:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/473150-mnew3_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/mnew3/105-473150/)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/670643-monet5_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/monet5/105-670643/)
I'll never know..

[That JonoGuy]

and why do they keep on coloring M like she's white or half-white?"

because they're idiots & did/don't do good research

Hasn't she north african/algerian origins ?
yes

How she goes from this :
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/648390-senza_titolo_3_copia_5_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/senza_titolo_3_copia_5/105-648390/)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29735/687846-jubilee30_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/jubilee30/105-687846/)

To this:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/473150-mnew3_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/mnew3/105-473150/)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/670643-monet5_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/monet5/105-670643/)
I'll never know..

Easy. Sun exposure.

[pariah-1972]

Bad lighting? maybe the colorist ran out of brown/tan crayons?

[Nicoclaws]

she's pretty brown in the last picture, it's the same color as her first issues of generation X
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/41000/40460/128476-m_400.jpg

[Zel]

Enjoyable issue. Looking forward to see how grown Layla's changed and how she and Jaime get along.

The way the two Longshot panels were laid out made me think his "luck" abilities are more reality altering/picking between alternate dimensions.

Speaking of Lonshot, I wonder if we'll ever see any repercussions to his date-rape aura, similar to the Star Fox storyline over in She-Hulk. Sooner or later someone's gonna feel used and not believe that I can't control it line. I sure don't.

[ExodusCloak]

Easy. Sun exposure.

Co-signed.

[pariah-1972]

I think the Longshot thing was showing how Madroxx is affecting the future by reshaping current reality in his future.

Longshot does not have the power to reverse time like that.

[The Lucky One]

Speaking of Lonshot, I wonder if we'll ever see any repercussions to his date-rape aura, similar to the Star Fox storyline over in She-Hulk. Sooner or later someone's gonna feel used and not believe that I can't control it line. I sure don't.

Or he could take after Prince Charming from Fables and get elected mayor. :wink:

I'd say it depends on what changes PAD is planning to make with the character. In the past Longshot was always oblivious to the effect he had on women, so even though they always gave him their phone numbers, he never slept with any of them. (Well, except Dazzler, but who hasn't?) Now he apparently is aware of it, but it remains to be seen whether he actually uses that to score any tail.

If I'm not mistaken, doesn't Starfox exude a pheromone that makes women attracted to him, which is what got him in trouble? If so, that's more a chemical thing, whereas Longshot is just really, really attractive and dashing. That's less GHB, more Brad Pitt.

-D

[Slung]

and why do they keep on coloring M like she's white or half-white?"

because they're idiots & did/don't do good research

Hasn't she north african/algerian origins ?
yes



First off, she is half white (her father was white in his first appearances). And second she is NORTH African.

And yes. Sun exposure.

[4sake]

First off, she is half white (her father was white in his first appearances). And second she is NORTH African.

And yes. Sun exposure.

Sun exposure theory = Me doing this :rolleyes:

M & Emplate (b4 he got messed up)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/112273-53974-emplate_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/53974-emplate/105-112273/)

M, Emplate & there father (he wasn't white in his last appearances )
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29735/687856-monet10_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/monet10/105-687856/)

[The Black Guardian]

I think the Longshot thing was showing how Madroxx is affecting the future by reshaping current reality in his future.

Longshot does not have the power to reverse time like that.
Say what now? Madrox, who is 80 years in the future, is somehow affecting the reality of the present, even though he can't reverse time like that? Huh?

[Xero]

Just to clear up some of the confusion.

The Summers Rebellion takes place on Earth 1191 (http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Earth-1191).

Young Rachel Summers hails from Earth 811 (http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Earth-811).

Nate Grey the kid known as "X-Man came from Earth 295 (http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Earth-295).

The mainstream Marvel Universe of our Scott Summers takes place on Earth 616 (http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Earth-616).

[pariah-1972]

Say what now? Madrox, who is 80 years in the future, is somehow affecting the reality of the present, even though he can't reverse time like that? Huh?I know it doesn't really make sense right now but that's what i thought when i saw it.



Maybe she was supposed to die but something Maddrox did in the future combined with Longshot's luck power changed the present somehow .

[CmX]

So is she black or what? I'm confused and apparently are the editors since her dad pulled a reverse Michael Jackson.

[pariah-1972]

So is she black or what? I'm confused and apparently are the editors since her dad pulled a reverse Michael Jackson.I didn't even know she was north or south african.
:frown:

[justinkos91]

M has 2 dads
that's my theory

[Bronze Badger]

M has 2 dads
that's my theory

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/graphics/news3/MyTwoDads_S1.jpg

[CmX]

M has 2 dads
that's my theory

Oh snaps you're on to something! And they're interracial they should double date with Northstar and his super hip black bf!

[justinkos91]

Oh snaps you're on to something! And they're interracial they should double date with Northstar and his super hip black bf!

I wonder which one is M's parent? The dark skinned or light skinned man?

[CmX]

Let's say the black one so nobody complains that if he was even remotely white then Marvel is part of the KKK because she's not a full blown out sistah.

[The Black Guardian]

I wonder which one is M's parent? The dark skinned or light skinned man?
Perhaps both?

[pariah-1972]

Her having two gay or one gay dad would explain a lot about her fierceness.

[justinkos91]

Her having two gay or one gay dad would explain a lot about her fierceness.

She's not fierce, she just thinks she's better than everyone

[pariah-1972]

She's not fierce, she just thinks she's better than everyoneSounds pretty fierce to me.

[mikekerr3]

It would require gross stupidity more than anything else. The future cannot possibly ever be set in stone. Once you do that, every little decision in life becomes meaningless.

MArvel gave up any pretwense at looking at timeline constiantly a while ago, they don't even bother to try. From fitting in the 6 month vaction in the X-factor to ASM having significat events change in the past with almost no repercussions, I thinks it mostly a " the suckers will buy whatever poorly contrived trash we think up" attitude that seems to be pervasive now.

[mikekerr3]

Umm.. You can't mess up stories that are set in the future.

The future isn't set. We can change the way it goes. (Terminator 2)

What you have to worry about is messing up past continuity with comic books .

And just because you change something, it'll just find another way to happen (Lost)

Unless you create a divergent timeline, with a change so big that things get fucked up (Age of Apocalypse, Professor Xavier is killed before creating the Xmen)

But if this happens... It's in the future!!! So it won't mess with continuity. What you're asking for is an Obsessive Compulsive Nightmare when it comes to mapping continuity for future timeline.

Come on now.

There are no primary and divergent timeliness all of them are equal in reality, and the number increases with every random event down to the quantum level and every choice thas made. A limited number of timeline is just writers being lazy.

[Anna]

I didn't even know she was north or south african.
:frown:
Algeria is in the Northern part of Africa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algeria

Her father was an ambassador in Monaco which is a tiny principality surrounded by France on the Riviara.

[pariah-1972]

Algeria is in the Northern part of Africa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algeria

Her father was an ambassador in Monaco which is a tiny principality surrounded by France on the Riviara.I always thought she was from Monaco.

[Imperious Rex]

Can someone tell whe if theyve read any news where Strong Guy gets his arc. Honestly, im tired of just about everyone getting an arc but Guido. He hs to be the only X powerhouse that doesnt get fights. The last time i actually thought hed be in a good fight was in the She Hulk book, but that was a complete fail. Anyone read anything on whether hell be getting a story line any time soon? Thanks in advance!

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

Another great issue of what is arguably Marvel's best book.
Drama, tension, "road trip" and some wonderful, laugh-out-loud moments featuring Monet, Siryn and Val.
This is my favourite title each month and I can't believe I've got to wait four weeks to find out what's going to happen next!:biggrin:

[Greg Anderson]

Can someone tell whe if theyve read any news where Strong Guy gets his arc. Honestly, im tired of just about everyone getting an arc but Guido. He hs to be the only X powerhouse that doesnt get fights. The last time i actually thought hed be in a good fight was in the She Hulk book, but that was a complete fail. Anyone read anything on whether hell be getting a story line any time soon? Thanks in advance!

Well, he and Rictor just started a road trip.

[Anna]

I always thought she was from Monaco.

It's one of several countries she's lived in; Yugoslavia being another.