Uncanny X-Men #508 *spoilers*

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Wouldn't Maddie just want Betsy in her original body because that is what she is familiar with from the Outback days? I mean she never met asian Betsy that I can recall. It might be a "precious moments" moment.

In all honesty, does there have to be any other reason beyond the fact that fans have been demanding it for over 15 years?

Despite a relative lack of ideas with what to do with them afterwards but Uncanny has pandered to bringing back fan favourites recently (Dazzler, Karma?)

[Novaya Havoc]

Well, I can't talk about the others, but I am not praising this shit at all. Those last two issues were almost as bad as most of Claremont's worst stuff; and I say almost because there's no Dino Rachel or something similar.

Co-signed.

[worstblogever]

Well, I can't talk about the others, but I am not praising this shit at all. Those last two issues were almost as bad as most of Claremont's worst stuff; and I say almost because there's no Dino Rachel or something similar.

Co-signed.

And what do those issues have in common? Psylocke. Awful has followed this character around repeatedly (see also Crimson Dawn, early New Excalibur and all of New Exiles and foot massages with Neal Sharra) since she went through the Siege Perilous. It's like she's cursed.

[Bolebeau]

Co-signed.

My practice to generally identify posters by their avatars is wasted on you, you enigma.

[Dagger]

In all honesty, does there have to be any other reason beyond the fact that fans have been demanding it for over 15 years?

Despite a relative lack of ideas with what to do with them afterwards but Uncanny has pandered to bringing back fan favourites recently (Dazzler, Karma?)
I wouldn't say what they've done with Dazz and Karma can be considered pandering to their fans. More along the lines of mocking them.

[pariah-1972]

All this talk of Psylocke and New Exiles is giving me a bloomin' headache:mad:

[Bolebeau]

I wouldn't say what they've done with Dazz and Karma can be considered pandering to their fans. More along the lines of mocking them.

It's like holding a slab of meat in front of a starving dog, but not letting the poor thing as much as lick it. Somehow though, the dog gets slapped in the head with the meat a few times.

[Bronze Badger]

All this talk of Psylocke and New Exiles is giving me a bloomin' headache:mad:

We could talk about New Excalibur. But then you would have an anuerysm.

[Dagger]

It's like holding a slab of meat in front of a starving dog, but not letting the poor thing as much as lick it. Somehow though, the dog gets slapped in the head with the meat a few times.

That sounds better than what we got with these issues.

[pariah-1972]

We could talk about New Excalibur. But then you would have an anuerysm.Would you come visit me in the hospital? we both live in the south:tongue:

[ExodusCloak]

I didn't think it was bad, it wasn't mind blowing but it wasn't bad. It's a little bit above mediocre.

Anyway seeing how this is the first issue of a 4 issue arc, are we going to assume that the Sisterhood is complete? Or do you guys think the Red Queen is going to try and recruit more psychics.

I can see Jason Wyngarde back at the end of this arc, ever since the relevation that he mind raped the Sentry into a beaten red headed stepchild I had this feeling that Bendis wants him back.

Reading the thread again, have to say I forgot about Kid Omega...maybe they'll use Martha and Blindfold.

[Bronze Badger]

Would you come visit me in the hospital? we both live in the south:tongue:

Stop propositioning me.

[pariah-1972]

Stop propositioning me.Sorry :redface:

[Pixie_Solanas]

If you would have told me that, pre-Fraction, i'd have an issue with both Hep and Aurora, i'd have pissed my pants in glee.

[Leogam]

Well hopefully if Betsy goes to Captain Britain & the M:13 book, maybe we can keep Kwannon in X-Force or as a new villian. I hope Fraction will put her in an updated version of her Australian Outback uniform

BTW I hear rumors that Captain Britain & the M:13 book is getting canceled, is it true ??

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Well hopefully if Betsy goes to Captain Britain & the M:13 book, maybe we can keep Kwannon in X-Force or as a new villian. I hope Fraction will put her in an updated version of her Australian Outback uniform

BTW I hear rumors that Captain Britain & the M:13 book is getting canceled, is it true ??

Not any time soon. Rumours were spread late last year, but since have been repeatedly denied by every quarter of Marvel. :biggrin:

But I'm not sure that Betsy will be going over there, even still. I think she'll be staying on Uncanny. A guest run in CB&MI13 is likely, though. And long overdue. If this change lasts Brian's going to NEED to know about it.

[pariah-1972]

I always feel sorry that they can never be on the same team at the same time but i guess he wouldn't approve of her sleeping around anyways.

[KrullWall]

I seriously LOVED this issue. Like Uncanny is really good. The writing is good. And I really did like how they had tons of Xmen in the issue.SERIOUSLY GOOD!

[darknessatnoon]

I seriously LOVED this issue. Like Uncanny is really good. The writing is good. And I really did like how they had tons of Xmen in the issue.SERIOUSLY GOOD!

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[Bronze Badger]

I seriously LOVED this issue. Like Uncanny is really good. The writing is good. And I really did like how they had tons of Xmen in the issue.SERIOUSLY GOOD!

I can never tell when you're serious.

[KrullWall]

I am this time. I think Fraction is getting a bad deal. I really did like his story. Everyone can't get the spotlight, but he is taking on a big cast of Xmen. I actually re-read it right after because i enjoyed it.

I liked Northstar and the sisterhood babling.

[Pixie_Solanas]

I seriously LOVED this issue. Like Uncanny is really good. The writing is good. And I really did like how they had tons of Xmen in the issue.SERIOUSLY GOOD!

ZOMG! lololol! srsly!

[americocaine]

mmmm...northstar yesssss...what a nice tight bum ye have!

[Roo]

haven't enjoyed an issue of uncanny like this for a long time

particularly enjoyed the emma/nightcrawler banter

[KrullWall]

Does anyone think they will revive anyone else? Like original Mastermind?

[pariah-1972]

Does anyone think they will revive anyone else? Like original Mastermind?Since it would be completely pointless i would answer yes !

[KrullWall]

Yea agreed we got a big enough cast. Come on some good ole' fashion killings!

[Novaya Havoc]

I seriously LOVED this issue. Like Uncanny is really good. The writing is good. And I really did like how they had tons of Xmen in the issue.SERIOUSLY GOOD!

OMGZZZ!!!! 10/10!!!!


/DDM reviewing New Excalibur

[pariah-1972]

Yea agreed we got a big enough cast. Come on some good ole' fashion killings!If you want killings just go over to X-force.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

OMGZZZ!!!! 10/10!!!!


/DDM reviewing New Excalibur

Got the issue during lunch.

Part of me is tempted to join in on the mocking.

Part of me is still trying to figure out how the efff was the issue any worse or any better than the Fraction average...?

[worstblogever]

Got the issue during lunch.

Part of me is tempted to join in on the mocking.

Part of me is still trying to figure out how the efff was the issue any worse or any better than the Fraction average...?

My take was middling. The art and dialogue, as well as MAJOR plot developments (Psylocke mucked with for the 40th time) are bad.

However, the fact that there at least was no Cyclops is a step away from the Astonishing platform that this book has often been. Seeing Northstar and Karma with their first gay lovers, on panel, respectively, is good. Seeing Domino hold her own against Chimera and Deathstrike, nice. There are some redeemable qualities. But enough?

At best, this is middling. But I'd say low to middling. Maybe 50% of a train wreck, as opposed to the worst book ever, that would be a full trainwreck where a plane flies into the wreckage.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

At best, this is middling. But I'd say low to middling. Maybe 50% of a train wreck, as opposed to the worst book ever, that would be a full trainwreck where a plane flies into the wreckage.

So... in other words, the Fraction average? :biggrin:

[timbox]

Northstar and Aurora should come back to San Francisco. Not only is Aurora infinitely more interesting that Northstar, but also Karma would no longer have to sneak off with one of the Russian prostitutes when Colossus isn’t looking.

I can’t contain my excitement for Northstar’s snowboarding records though…

[darknessatnoon]

Northstar and Aurora should come back to San Francisco. Not only is Aurora infinitely more interesting that Northstar, but also Karma would no longer have to sneak off with one of the Russian prostitutes when Colossus isn’t looking.

I can’t contain my excitement for Northstar’s snowboarding records though…

I am glad for Karma that she was able to find a prostitute who resembles Kitty.

[FiddleFaddle]

Why the heck did Beast imply to Jeffries that he had never been to outer space. Wasn't he JUST THERE in the Breakworld arc?

He meant that he didn't go to space for a solution for the decimation.

Why is everyone calling those Russian girls prostitutes? They're sex slaves, gosh.

The Northstar scenes made me cringe they just felt so FORCED.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I am glad for Karma that she was able to find a prostitute who resembles Kitty.

I sometimes forget how much of a romantic you are.

So Pete isn't even translating or checking out Ems'. He's totally on the lookout for a Kitty 2.0.

Say what you want about Fraction, he totally gets the X-Men.

[Seres]

I would like an issue made up entirely of Fraptions. They're my favourite.

[darknessatnoon]

I sometimes forget how much of a romantic you are.



My heart pangs for Karma. All she wants is a few minutes alone with the real thing. But, of course, the first time we ever see her post-coital, she has to be struck down by a BOLT FROM THE BLUE!

[eurazn]

My heart pangs for Karma. All she wants is a few minutes alone with the real thing. But, of course, the first time we ever see her post-coital, she has to be struck down by a BOLT FROM THE BLUE!

That'll teach those filthy homos! It's time we went another 10+ years with little to no reference to Karma's sexuality!

(obviously being sarcastic) :tongue:

[Darkchylde]

You know, I immediately thought that it wasn't 616 Betsy. When was the last time she wore that buttfloss Jim Lee outfit?

Am I the only one with this suspicion? Isn't that Asian Betsy on the cover of 512 (?) with the science team?

No, you're not alone in that suspicion. I was pondering that same thing this morning. Perhaps Betsy was drawn in her well-known ninja outfit because it would make her more recognizale to fans, but it occurred to me that maybe (and this is a BIG MAYBE) Madelyne Pryor, etc. found some random girl to dress up as Psylocke, and used her life-force to resurrect Kwannon (a life for a life). Notice that Psylocke's face wasn't shown but rater obscured by a face mask.

Maybe Maddie only wants Kwannon to think that Psylocke restored her... ? Otherwise, I'm hoping next issue explains how/why Betsy reappeared in this dimension.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

My heart pangs for Karma. All she wants is a few minutes alone with the real thing. But, of course, the first time we ever see her post-coital, she has to be struck down by a BOLT FROM THE BLUE!

Had it been an actual lightning bolt, there'd be a God or Jealous 'Ro joke in there.

[worstblogever]

So... in other words, the Fraction average? :biggrin:

Since #500... yes, I'd say low to middling would be the average rating for Uncanny. Too many weird quotes, throwaway cameos without relevance by the characters who are "rotating in" only to leave, dialogue that most sitcoms would include a laugh track to, and art that has been inappropriate cheesecake poses and faces to the situation.

I wish it wasn't so, but there it is.

[pariah-1972]

Since #500... yes, I'd say low to middling would be the average rating for Uncanny. Too many weird quotes, throwaway cameos without relevance by the characters who are "rotating in" only to leave, dialogue that most sitcoms would include a laugh track to, and art that has been inappropriate cheesecake poses and faces to the situation.

I wish it wasn't so, but there it is.(Agrees with this statement !00%)

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Careful, WBE didn't say a godawful wreck.

[worstblogever]

Careful, WBE didn't say a godawful wreck.

There have been times where I thought Uncanny was in worse hands... but as that discussion will invariably lead to the dreaded creator comparisons, I will abstain from doing so.

I will say that this one is in the bottom five, to be sure. Don't ask me where, though. I can't pass judgement in the midst of. I mean, there have been runs that started well and the wheels came off, and runs that started weird, and got brilliant. It could improve, but as the creators say, "wait and see".

[pariah-1972]

I think it's getting slightly better than the first arc with all the S&M and overly repetitive dialogue.


I think he needs to stick with the Dodson's since it makes his work seem less serious and more fun and light hearted while still having some cheesecake here and there.

[Optic Rage!]

I disliked it.

The whole thing got on my nerves.

It felt like X-Men done by MTV or something

[The Thunderbird]

Maybe they put Betsy back in her British body because they needed her original telepathic abilities as Asian Psylocke is not a telepath, only a telekinetic now.

[We R. Venom]

I thought it was just me. Unlike some though, I didn't find any good from this issue at all. The scenes with northstar were just lame. I need not mention the art. the direction of this book is still reachign for nothing. This "rotating cast," isn't doing it for me. it boils down to pointless lameass cameos. Characters are promised to be in issues. And the are hranted short pornface panels. The dialogue is so horrible i have to read the issues 3 times just to understand what is going on. I'm not payin for crap anymore. I will "wait and see." But i'll do it from the sidelines and spend my 4 bucks on a bucket of galf(i spelled it right) balls.

[Anna]

Does anyone think they will revive anyone else? Like original Mastermind? Maddie promised each member a ressurection of their choice.

Northstar and Aurora should come back to San Francisco. Not only is Aurora infinitely more interesting that Northstar, but also Karma would no longer have to sneak off with one of the Russian prostitutes when Colossus isn’t looking.

I can’t contain my excitement for Northstar’s snowboarding records though…
Aurora does not do women. She wouldn't even do Sasquatch when he was trapped in female form; which was actually hotter than his male form.


I never read Exiles, new or old, so what was different about Betsy's costume?

[AcesX1X]

I never read Exiles, new or old, so what was different about Betsy's costume?

anna, psylocke wore pants and pirate boots in exiles.

[timbox]

Aurora does not do women. She wouldn't even do Sasquatch when he was trapped in female form; which was actually hotter than his male form.


All women secretly want to do other women. This is canon.

[JValentine]

anna, psylocke wore pants and pirate boots in exiles.

Ughh... the bad dream is finally over.

[pariah-1972]

Girls in pirate boots sounds yummy.

[Anna]

anna, psylocke wore pants and pirate boots in exiles. Ooooo! Anyone got a scan?

All women secretly want to do other women. This is canon.

Not Jeanne Marie.

[cgar]

It doesn't matter in the end, if it's Besty's mind in her original body OR Revanche revived. We ALL know Betsy's going to be alive and well, in asian body, and join the X-Club for some timetravel vacationing. Nothing ever really changes. :/


I guess it's better than being the giant crystal palace on Jean's vulva.

tell me about it. how predictable are things in the X-Line now. we'll see what happens.

And sage would win against Rao and Moira. They are just doctors or somthing. Plus they are boring.

[darknessatnoon]

Not Jeanne Marie.

Isn't she a nun?

Case Closed.

[Anna]

Isn't she a nun?

Case Closed.

Not quite a nun; that was another splinter personality. Actually this was the "merged" personality (Yellow costume, short haircut) that told Sasquatch that he was never to touch her as long as he was a woman. It's possible that the abuse she suffered in the convent turned her off women.

[DeadXMan]

Co-signed.

Well, I can't talk about the others, but I am not praising this shit at all. Those last two issues were almost as bad as most of Claremont's worst stuff; and I say almost because there's no Dino Rachel or something similar.
dose a cheap clone of Godzilla count?

and thanks fr sticking to your convictions


it one of my pet peeves: if somebody bash a writer for something while letting other writers slide for doing the same.

[The Thunderbird]

dose a cheap clone of Godzilla count?


Imagine if Land drew that thing. 200 foot porn face.

[DeadXMan]

I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.

thanks for that, Thunderbird.

and why the hell is pete still armored up?

[MartinRedmond]

To be honest, I only ever liked Aurora under John Byrne. The dual personality switch made both women fun. Jeanne Marie was about denying herself things, while Aurora took it without reservations.

Aurora's not a skank, she doesn't sleep around. She's a strutter.

[KrullWall]

Not a huge Aurora fan!

[Aguja]

Girls in pirate boots sounds yummy.

Chimera is a pirate <3

[Puunk]

I love Wyngarde's daughters! Freaking awesome.

Martinique: Can someone please tell my sister that I can hear her breathing and it makes me want to stab her with hot knives?
Regan: Can someone please tell my sister that I'd love nothing more in the world then for her to try?

[KrullWall]

I hope they end up fighting!!!!

[Zero Hunter]

Just reading through this topic makes me glad I dropped Uncanny 6 months ago. This just sounds "90's era X-Men" bad to me.

[Pixie_Solanas]

anna, psylocke wore pants and pirate boots in exiles.

And it was the only time I gave her sartorial credit. Her customary ninja one-piece with hosiery boots? Offensive.

[Cruelly_Innocent]

Wow...just read "the buy pile"

"Dear "Uncanny X-Men" #508 -- you lost it at "Madelyne Pryor." Even the gorgeous art of Greg Land couldn't make that work. Sorry, no."

This bloke doesn't know what he is talking about, no wonder he was always saying that Patsy Walker: Hellcat was a "No, just ... no" but that Iron Fist is a must read :mad:

[DeniseXfrost]

Oh god, Greg land makes me want to punch all the characters in the book. The silly grind and smirk gets me all the time.

And Emma sounds retarded. Fraction please stop.

[We R. Venom]

Wow...just read "the buy pile"

"Dear "Uncanny X-Men" #508 -- you lost it at "Madelyne Pryor." Even the gorgeous art of Greg Land couldn't make that work. Sorry, no."

This bloke doesn't know what he is talking about, no wonder he was always saying that Patsy Walker: Hellcat was a "No, just ... no" but that Iron Fist is a must read :mad:

I hope he was being sarcastic. I just asked him. We shall see.

[Scott Taylor]

I haven't seen the issue at all but it sounds like they are trying to put Psylocke back in her original body by doing this.

I certainly hope so, man that would be one thing that could keep me on this title for a while. Classic, non-ninja Psylocke = yummers.

[DeadXMan]

I love Wyngarde's daughters! Freaking awesome.

Martinique: Can someone please tell my sister that I can hear her breathing and it makes me want to stab her with hot knives?
Regan: Can someone please tell my sister that I'd love nothing more in the world then for her to try?

Maddie: knock it off or by all that is holy, I will turn this S&m hategroup around!


what are they, ten?:rolleyes:

[DeadXMan]

Just reading through this topic makes me glad I dropped Uncanny 6 months ago. This just sounds "90's era X-Men" bad to me.

it makes me wish for Austin

[Anna]

Maddie hasn't made Scott suffer enough yet.

[Imraith Nimphais]

I love Wyngarde's daughters! Freaking awesome.

Martinique: Can someone please tell my sister that I can hear her breathing and it makes me want to stab her with hot knives?
Regan: Can someone please tell my sister that I'd love nothing more in the world then for her to try?

OH. MY. GODDESS.
Is this wot's passing for dialogue in Uncanny these days?
Clearly, Fr-hack-tion has decided to integrate very bad reality TV with his b-movie re-hash... Quel horreur!

[DeadXMan]

OH. MY. GODDESS.
Is this wot's passing for dialogue in Uncanny these days?
Clearly, Fr-hack-tion has decided to integrate very bad reality TV with his b-movie re-hash... Quel horreur!

I know

I'll take "What the devil" over...... this

[DeadXMan]

Maddie hasn't made Scott suffer enough yet.

I know, she should of did something to him when they were in the S&M club.
whips chains and car batteries were everywhere. The man left her and their infant child for god's sake. He is scum.

[NewMutant]

I certainly hope so, man that would be one thing that could keep me on this title for a while. Classic, non-ninja Psylocke = yummers.

Fraction confirmed that Psylocke was put back in her original body in a CBR interview on the main page. Decent article.. wish he could execute his ideas better.

[FiddleFaddle]

Maddie: knock it off or by all that is holy, I will turn this S&m hategroup around!


what are they, ten?:rolleyes:

I know both of them sounded like immature brats.

I know

I'll take "What the devil" over...... this

Wow... I would too!

[Pixie_Solanas]

BOZSHE ******ng MOI!

[ExodusCloak]

Fraction confirmed that Psylocke was put back in her original body in a CBR interview on the main page. Decent article.. wish he could execute his ideas better.

It kind of made sense when the Red Queen said "welcome home or at least welcome to your new body."

[NewMutant]

It kind of made sense when the Red Queen said "welcome home or at least welcome to your new body."

Well its what I thought too, but there seemed to be some debate in the thread originally.

[ExodusCloak]

Well its what I thought too, but there seemed to be some debate in the thread originally.

Ah cool, well I guess Lands art didn't help the situation. :tongue: It can be a little bit confusing but I think he's improved a little since SFX. I guess it comes with the territory when you can't trace things like Spirals extra arms or Deathstrikes fingers.

[NewMutant]

Ah cool, well I guess Lands art didn't help the situation. :tongue: It can be a little bit confusing but I think he's improved a little since SFX. I guess it comes with the territory when you can't trace things like Spirals extra arms or Deathstrikes fingers.

I enjoyed this bit of the IGN review of Lands art in the issues...

"This issue does unfortunately mark the return of Greg Land on art though. I've learned that you can usually tell how long someone has been reading comics by their opinion of his work, since I went through the process myself. When I first started getting back into comics a few years ago, I was floored by Land's work, which had a very clean and modern look compared to what I was accustomed to. That opinion changes after repeated viewings, when you start to realize all the tricks and gimmicks he uses in the course of an issue. The final straw for me was when I saw the exact same face being photo-referenced for different characters in the very same issue. At this point, his art can pull me out of the flow of the story by itself, which is never a good thing. I'm sure my opinion is more extreme than others, so feel free to call me an idiot in the comments."

I completely agree with this. I loved Lands work in X-Men: Phoenix Endsong, which wasn't the first time I'd seen his work but the first time I bought it. And I loved it, I still think its great and his best work. His Ultimate mini series and Ultimate FF run too I thought were good but I didn't read or buy them because I'm not into that universe. But now that he is a regular on X-Men I feel like his quality has gotten worse and his tracing has been more and more apparent.

not to mention Land and Dodson's style are very different. Itll be strange during the DA/UXM cross over to have Silverstri and Dedato with the Dodsons too.

[Scott Taylor]

I missed Dodson's art on this go around. What I wish they'd do is put Paco Medina on it. Or Michael Choi.

[Pixie_Solanas]

I missed Dodson's art on this go around. What I wish they'd do is put Paco Medina on it. Or Michael Choi.

Sorry, with all the broads in this issue, I have no desire to digest Dodson's plump-sized aesthetics.

I will say this in defense of Mr. Land - he NAILED the Betsy bondage scene. Nailed it.

[KrullWall]

Dodson likes a bigger woman....while land concentrates on one woman part!

[yanapryde]

Do you suppose its more efficient for him, time-wise, to trace them rather than come up with original images?

I wonder about that.
If the other non-tracing pro's manage, I wonder how long it takes him.
I mean does he have files with all these trace-ables or folders with tons and tons of images of varying sizes or what??

[DeadXMan]

Do you suppose its more efficient for him, time-wise, to trace them rather than come up with original images?

I wonder about that.
If the other non-tracing pro's manage, I wonder how long it takes him.
I mean does he have files with all these trace-ables or folders with tons and tons of images of varying sizes or what??


no, he has a lot of porno mags

[cgar]

It kind of made sense when the Red Queen said "welcome home or at least welcome to your new body."

yah i agree. but some people didnt have the brain capacity to comprehend that. its ok hopefully they got the looks going for them.

[darknessatnoon]

yah i agree. but some people didnt have the brain capacity to comprehend that. its ok hopefully they got the looks going for them.

Part of brain capacity is figuring out tone of voice. I'm pretty sure you make up for it by being hot, though.

[DeadXMan]

two more things:

why would it be a new body when they put her back to her original body?
and wasn't northstar baned from all sorting events due to his power giving him an unfair advantage?

[Scott Taylor]

Sorry, with all the broads in this issue, I have no desire to digest Dodson's plump-sized aesthetics.

You don't like big butts and you cannot lie? :biggrin:

I can respect that sentiment, because I prefer a more realistic female form. But I do like Dodson's faces, moreso than Land's. There were an awful lot of broads in this issue, though, and whoever drew the ish it was bound to get repetitive.

[cgar]

Part of brain capacity is figuring out tone of voice. I'm pretty sure you make up for it by being hot, though.

wow defensive much. haha you cant figure out tone of voice through reading. so hopefully you got the looks going for you cause i dont

Sage is SEXAWESOME

[Prodigy55]

I hate Dodson art, everyone is shiny and fat.
Land art is just boring.

New art on Uncanny pls!

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I hate Dodson art, everyone is shiny and fat.
Land art is just boring.

New art on Uncanny pls!

They're bringing in Paquette for the x-club one shot, aren't they? :biggrin:

[lockerogue]

Some of you need to learn what fat is and what it looks like. lol

[Home made ectoplasm]

wow defensive much. haha you cant figure out tone of voice through reading.

You can't? My condolences

[Prodigy55]

They're bringing in Paquette for the x-club one shot, aren't they? :biggrin:

The artist from Young X-Men? Nothankyou.

Some of you need to learn what fat is and what it looks like. lol

Okay not fat, just plump.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

The artist from Young X-Men? Nothankyou.

That was a 'careful what you wish for' smilie.

Paquette ain't my cup o' tea either.

[pariah-1972]

Paquette was good on the Bulletter arc in Seven Soldiers.

He just seem's not to wanna draw eyes.

[Omega Alpha]

I know, she should of did something to him when they were in the S&M club.
whips chains and car batteries were everywhere. The man left her and their infant child for god's sake. He is scum.

So, the ideal person to punish someone for "leaving" (despite the fact he did raise the kid) a child is the one that tried to kill the same child?:rolleyes:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

So, the ideal person to punish someone for "leaving" (despite the fact he did raise the kid) a child is the one that tried to kill the same child?:rolleyes:

DeadX would let Sabes' lecture Cyke on ethics. :tongue:

[DeadXMan]

Inferno was just a cry of attention.

for hell hath no fury like a woman scorn.

none of that would of happen if Scott just stayed in Alaska with Maddie.


number of times Creed abandon his son into a dystopia future = 0

Scott Summers= 2

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I'm a bit disappointed you didn't dish out more Cyke-hating, Dead.

[Omega Alpha]

Gotta love the trolls.

[DeadXMan]

I'm glad you love yourself, Omega alpha.

[DeadXMan]

I'm a bit disappointed you didn't dish out more Cyke-hating, Dead.

you say hate
I say continuity
let's call the whole thing off

[The Thunderbird]

Inferno was just a cry of attention.

for hell hath no fury like a woman scorn.

none of that would of happen if Scott just stayed in Alaska with Maddie.


number of times Creed abandon his son into a dystopia future = 0

Scott Summers= 2
To be fair though, Scott did have baby Nate sent to the future to save his life as Scott had no other option.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

you say hate
I say continuity
let's call the whole thing off

You just knew I was gonna bring up the fact that Cyke never licked a bloody dagger while in a sewer.

Fine, I shall respect your wishes.

[Slung]

You just knew I was gonna bring up the fact that Cyke never licked a bloody dagger while in a sewer.

Fine, I shall respect your wishes.

Wait? Is that on par with abandoning wives and child? Gosh, Storm is one horrible person! :wink:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Wait? Is that on par with abandoning wives and child? Gosh, Storm is one horrible person! :wink:

Most courts of law would agree that abandoning his wife and kid is a lesser 'crime' than premeditated assault with murderous intent.

Still, Cyke wins the sanitary match. Don't you dare mock that fact. :biggrin:

[Slung]

Most courts of law would agree that abandoning his wife and kid is a lesser 'crime' than premeditated assault with murderous intent.

Still, Cyke wins the sanitary match. Don't you dare mock that fact. :biggrin:

Cyke's OCD forces him to win the sanitary match. He wears a friggin body condom for Pete's sake.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Cyke's OCD forces him to win the sanitary match. He wears a friggin body condom for Pete's sake.

Stop pretending the SCUBA SUIT isn't rad.

[DeadXMan]

Cyke's OCD forces him to win the sanitary match. He wears a friggin body condom for Pete's sake.

I would too considering who he hooked up with

she $%^&ed Namor

[DeadXMan]

Stop pretending the SCUBA SUIT isn't rad.

still the best

http://th05.deviantart.com/fs18/300W/f/2007/215/d/e/Cyclops_by_RyanKinnaird.jpg[

[cgar]

You can't? My condolences

Yah.Who are you? Darkness can defend himself. He doesnt need one of his little stalkers that quotes him Thank you

2 more weeks for the next issue. i wish is was like that with more of the X-Line

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Stop pretending the 90s belts aren't automatic fail.

[Slung]

Stop pretending the 90s belts aren't automatic fail.

90's belts are infinitely better than the current costume. Its so hideous. Actually, all the current costumes are pretty ugly (except for Lady Mastermind's because it was designed by Bachalo).

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

90's belts are infinitely better than the current costume. Its so hideous. Actually, all the current costumes are pretty ugly (except for Lady Mastermind's because it was designed by Bachalo).

You are dead to m... Oh, wait, most of the current costumes are pretty bad.

Nevermind. Still, the belts were overkill. You'd think they occasionnaly pull out something for the sake of shameless advertisement. But noooo.

[DeadXMan]

the 90's cartoon show had him use his belts

so epic win

[Justin K.]

still the best

http://th05.deviantart.com/fs18/300W/f/2007/215/d/e/Cyclops_by_RyanKinnaird.jpg[

you sure?

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/CyclopsBizarre.jpg

[peopleofpaper]

http://i44.tinypic.com/10cn77q.png
Land is making porn spotting too easy with this one (jk)

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

the 90's cartoon show had him use his belts

so epic win

The 90s' cartoon had pony tail MOM Jean, too, right?

Alright, I'll give you that one.

[DeadXMan]

you sure?
perhaps I was mistaken

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/CyclopsBizarre.jpg

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr150/DXM616/cyclops-bigcostume3.jpg
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr150/DXM616/cyclops-bigcostume9.jpg

far superior

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Damn you for that Eric the Red pic.

[Justin K.]

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr150/DXM616/cyclops-bigcostume9.jpg

far superior

This look must come back and remain

[DeadXMan]

Damn you for that Eric the Red pic.

keep it up and I'll post Joe Q's seashell swimsuit of Namor:tongue:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

keep it up and I'll post Joe Q's seashell swimsuit of Namor:tongue:

Namor's a total diva. Statistics dictate he'd have to wear something fugly once in a while.

[DeadXMan]

Namor's a total diva. Statistics dictate he'd have to wear something fugly once in a while.

I'm a man of my word


http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr150/DXM616/marvelswimsuit-4_47.jpg

[Justin K.]

I'm a man of my word


http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr150/DXM616/marvelswimsuit-4_47.jpg

Can a man who lives underwater get shrinkage?

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I had actually never seen that pic.

LOL doesn't even begin to... wow.

[eurazn]

I'm a man of my word


http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr150/DXM616/marvelswimsuit-4_47.jpg

I have never seen that before. I wish I hadn't seen it now.

Truly awful ... the shell bikini, the bad hair ... and for the love of God, what's wrong with his moobs?!

[Dagger]

I'm a man of my word


http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr150/DXM616/marvelswimsuit-4_47.jpg
To be fair, he just came out of the water. It was probably cold down there.

[pariah-1972]

People usually get wrinkes when they are wet for a long time.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

People usually get wrinkes when they are wet for a long time.

We know.

But he seemingly doesn't have any anywhere else. Something's up.

[Justin K.]

We know.

But he seemingly doesn't have any anywhere else. Something's up.

It could be the ferocity

[LungerTony]

That is one of the most frightening comic pictures period. Namor the rapist is going to haunt my dreams for atleast a few hours.

One minute your hanging on the beach with friends and some hot chicks, getting drunk in the sun, then Namor the rapist comes out of the water with his grin and shrinkage and just ruins your entire life.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

It could be the ferocity

I didn't exactly get an A+ in human biology, but I have absolutely no idea what to make of that, lol.

[Bingo!]

Can a man who lives underwater get shrinkage?

I don't believe you can see how far forward that shell protrudes.

Dirty Quesada.

[MartinRedmond]

Greg's work still looks just fine. Psylocke shows a bit too much crotch to my liking, considering she's being rendered a vegetable and it kind of sucks that butch Domino got a fight scene instead of her, but it's not a porny book.

[MartinRedmond]

Do you suppose its more efficient for him, time-wise, to trace them rather than come up with original images?

I wonder about that.
If the other non-tracing pro's manage, I wonder how long it takes him.
I mean does he have files with all these trace-ables or folders with tons and tons of images of varying sizes or what??

They trace Adam Hughes or Marc Silvestri. Fans approve those tracings.

[Pixie_Solanas]

I'm a man of my word


http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr150/DXM616/marvelswimsuit-4_47.jpg

Since when did Namor get bacony leathery hide?

[DeadXMan]

after sleeping with Emma

[Pixie_Solanas]

I loathe Joe Q art. And editor-in-chiefing.

[striderhirryu2]

Anyone else see alot of Ultimate Power in this?

[Fatguy]

I loathe Joe Q art. And editor-in-chiefing.

I think his Chiefing is top notch.

[DeadXMan]

Anyone else see alot of Ultimate Power in this?

only cause land traced for that book as well

[CmX]

How do the editors/writers look at his art before it's printed and not spot this shit out and ask him to just redo it? Or ask the hack to create his own identity rather than trace shit out of fuckin OK magazine.

[striderhirryu2]

Every fucking chick in this book looks like Sue Storm or Zarda. Never knew what people meant by Land's art being a huge distraction from the story until now.

[Cam Man]

I dunno if thinking it must be Revanche because the sisterhoods needs a bad guy works. If I was Bettsy I'd be freaking pissed at the X-men. She all but dissapears into the blue and the team makes no mention of her absence, no mouring of her absence, or lifts a finger to go out and at least attempt to rescue her! She got thrown under the bus plain and simple. How's that for your "friends"? Of course wasn't it spiral who switched her into the asian body in the first place? If anybody was going to switch her back it makes sense that she can.

I'd rather have my good old fashioned asian ninja psylocke though. Never was a fan of her as an english woman. Sigh.

[DeadXMan]

um Die by the sword and SotB establishes that the x-men knows where she is at.

Brian is a good at keep them inform.

[pariah-1972]

I dunno if thinking it must be Revanche because the sisterhoods needs a bad guy works. If I was Bettsy I'd be freaking pissed at the X-men. She all but dissapears into the blue and the team makes no mention of her absence, no mouring of her absence, or lifts a finger to go out and at least attempt to rescue her! She got thrown under the bus plain and simple. How's that for your "friends"? Of course wasn't it spiral who switched her into the asian body in the first place? If anybody was going to switch her back it makes sense that she can.

I'd rather have my good old fashioned asian ninja psylocke though. Never was a fan of her as an english woman. Sigh.To be honest lots of people seem to go off and disappear from the X-mansion a lot so there shouldn't be a huge casue for concern since it's not exactly a strict boarding school.

[DeadXMan]

the only one who ever notices is Logan.

[Cam Man]

Die by thesword? Oh I never read that. I feel foolish. Guess I retract my previous statement, lol. Glad the X-men aren't such X-dicks.

[DeadXMan]

Oh they are, well Scott is anyway.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Oh they are, well Scott is anyway.

Puh-lease. There's no on-panel proof that Cykes asked Pete's harem to earn their keep.

[Oliverhannah]

when this issue come out? any have scans pretty please...xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[MuhollandDriver]

Ack. Hardware issues put me out of the loop.

Well.....overall i -do- think this is an improvement. Is it where it needs to be? Nahhhh.

Reading the interviews with Fraction....the man has some inspired ideas...they often just don't seem to pan out on paper.

The rotating case concept did work better in this issue. With some more tweakings...it could be quite a cool thing.

The beginning part with Domino may be the best writing Fraction has done on this series, hands down. The modern wit that Fraction aims for was present, and Domino actually felt like a character. Then again, Domino is quite a likable character and hard to screw up. Yes, the logistics of her going to a grave for Wolverine are kind of odd, but if good characterization and creativity are being utilized, i can forgive such things much easier.

The Science Team plot fails to inspire. Having a female on it helps. i always found her character interesting. i guess a cheesy Greg Land smile means all is forgiven between her and Beast! Still, this entire plot fails to go anywhere.

The Sisterhood plot, however, is moving forward. For all of You who think putting Betsy in her body is a bad idea due to "90's popularity", just remember that the 90's twisted Psylocke into something almost unrecognizable. Where she ended up, after every convoluted turn, is a representation of what was horrific about that time period. A fresh start could do her good. i loved her in the Claremont days. "Kwannon", shifting bodies, Crimson Dawn, an ever shifting powerset, alternate reality hopping....all that was the beginning of the end for me.
It's similar to what Zeb Wells said about Magma...sometimes...You just need to cut through the convoluted crap to get to the heart of the character. Psylocke may be the most convoluted at all....it took something drastic.

The Northstar introduction...this one was a mixed bag. Yes, it is great to have him and hopefully his sister get featured. What is tricky is that he, like Psylocke, Wonder Woman, and other characters, is characterized however the writer wants to see him, which is never consistent. Fraction sees him as an uber-confident gay man. Okay. He hasn't always been that. I recall a past writer using his HYDRA brainwashing to show him as an angst ridden gay man wanting to kill all the gay bashers in the world. Chuck Austen saw him as a bitter ole queen with pointy ears who, deep down, really cares. And so it goes!

The moment between he and Wolverine, with the backstory of Logan killing him, deserved more than it got.

Now, i'm not saying it required a bit heart-wrenching scene, but it surely deserved more than half-baked flippancy. Which leads to my next complaint..

Sometimes the series just tries too hard to be edgy and witty. When he relaxes and focuses on character, like the Domino segment, the writer achieves what he wants! He was obviously trying too hard on the Northstar scene.

An example is Northstar stating he doesn't want to be a token. Well...with the boyfriend appendage, a well-meaning trap writers fall into with gay characters (just throwing a boy or girlfriend in there with no development. An example is Wiccan and Hulkling..who lack the journey Patriot and Hawkeye get), the writer commits the very act Northstar rails against.

This issue, for me, is much much better than the whole Lovelorn arc, which frustrated me endlessly. i can at least say i am interested in where this arc goes.

[Ryan W]

Spot-on review, Muholland_D! :wink:

[peopleofpaper]

I haven't been keeping up enough with the X-books for a couple years, but I miss the way Spiral used to look. Besides the multiple arms she doesn't look anything like she used to. I almost feel the same for Deathstryke although I like her new look.

[darknessatnoon]

I haven't been keeping up enough with the X-books for a couple years, but I miss the way Spiral used to look. Besides the multiple arms she doesn't look anything like she used to. I almost feel the same for Deathstryke although I like her new look.

The board is split on the issue of Spiral's hoodie and we might have to put it up to a vote. Personally, it's growing on me.

[DeadXMan]

Push-lease. There's no on-panel proof that Cykes asked Pete's harem to earn their keep.

no he just let boom boom die
abandon teammates cause they no longer have powers
put an end to the "How to escape from a missle attack from a confind space, like a bus" class.
tried to pull a Pym on storm, but she was like "Bitch, please"
and of course he left his baby's mommy for Jean only to leave her for Emma.

[Bronze Badger]

The board is split on the issue of Spiral's hoodie and we might have to put it up to a vote. Personally, it's growing on me.

I am pro-hoodie, but it needs to be another color other than beige.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I'll take all of the above over trying to mollest a teenage jewish girl any day.

[Bronze Badger]

I'll take all of the above over trying to mollest a teenage jewish girl any day.

Keep your illicit personal fantasies out of this.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Keep your illicit personal fantasies out of this.

What? No, no, no. The point is that Cyke - nor I - never was into that. He got kicked out a book for it. I quit X-Men for years.

I'm just saying that 'he might let your kids die, but there won't be any creepy business' is a better sales pitch than what used to go on under a certain writer's tenure.

[Nicoclaws]

I am pro-hoodie, but it needs to be another color other than beige.

Like blue and white ? After all these are her colors. Somebody could do the photoshop thing please ?

[DeadXMan]

What? No, no, no. The point is that Cyke - nor I - never was into that. He got kicked out a book for it. I quit X-Men for years.

I'm just saying that 'he might let your kids die, but there won't be any creepy business' is a better sales pitch than what used to go on under a certain writer's tenure.

sooo letting 50+ kids die and abandoning thousands at the most devastating moment in their lives is better?

[Bronze Badger]

Like blue and white ? After all these are her colors. Somebody could do the photoshop thing please ?

I thought she favored silver.

[Fatguy]

I like the hoodie, and would support all fashion based polls.

[nikbackm]

sooo letting 50+ kids die and abandoning thousands at the most devastating moment in their lives is better?

You mean like Storm "let" the Marauders slaughter the Morlocks and abandoned the others when she took the team to play hide-and-seek in Australia?

[DeadXMan]

what, they escaped thanks to colossus' brother.


I don't see any one porting then and gee what a great Idea to let the vary WMDs that were desinged to kill you guard the grounds.

[DeadXMan]

what, they escaped thanks to colossus' brother.


I don't see any one porting then and gee what a great Idea to let the vary WMDs that were desinged to kill you guard the grounds.

Scott Summers. worst. x-man. ever.

[Oliverhannah]

please tell me if i am right. Maddie recurret british body and she pull psylocke's soul out of Asia body then put in British body on which leave Asia body as without soul.

For example same as Penance body empty shell.

Dunt mean they bring Kwannon back to alive...

Psylocke's asia body are weapon, not real body..

Do u understand what i mean?

[pariah-1972]

please tell me if i am right. Maddie recurret british body and she pull psylocke's soul out of Asia body then put in British body on which leave Asia body as without soul.

For example same as Penance body empty shell.

Dunt mean they bring Kwannon back to alive...

Psylocke's asia body are weapon, not real body..

Do u understand what i mean?No i don't.

[amazoniansrule]

Weren't Northstar and Aurora under the control of "the children of the vault"?? How did they get free? what are the chances Fraction actually has them running at the speed of light?

[Valerie]

I never thought I'd say this, but Land's artwork was better than I expected. I could tell some of the women's faces apart. However, I never imagined Deathstrike to resemble Bjork.

As for '90's bad, it looks like they're resurrecting the whole "is Nightcrawler a priest or not?" thing. He's not, the whole idea of him being a priest, while interesting in theory, was handled dreadfully from the start. As a Catholic and a longtime fan who expects writers to do a reasonable amount of research and editors to actually edit, I really would prefer the whole priest thing was never mentioned again.

[nightw1ng]

Weren't Northstar and Aurora under the control of "the children of the vault"?? How did they get free? what are the chances Fraction actually has them running at the speed of light?
that plotline was followed up in the X-Men annual that came out right after that story. Rogue's X-Men took Northstar and Aurora to SHIELD to use the same equipment they used on Wolverine to deprogram him after he went evil in the Enemy of the State arc. complications arise when Exodus and his crew attack the SHIELD helicarrier, but the twins wake up in time to help stop them.

[bottlecityofkanga]

Did anyone else think the explanation about getting Northstar on the team was a bit...weak?

I mean, are the X-Men really concerned about 'PR'?!

http://bottlecityofkanga.blogspot.com/2009/04/uncanny-x-men-508-homosexual-gay-smut.html

[Novaya Havoc]

Did anyone else think the explanation about getting Northstar on the team was a bit...weak?

I mean, are the X-Men really concerned about 'PR'?!

http://bottlecityofkanga.blogspot.com/2009/04/uncanny-x-men-508-homosexual-gay-smut.html

You are brilliant. I love that blog link. Mad ♥.

[Seres]

Did anyone else think the explanation about getting Northstar on the team was a bit...weak?

I mean, are the X-Men really concerned about 'PR'?!


They are. Hence why Cyclops put the team back into uniforms during Astonishing X-Men.

[Dagger]

Did anyone else think the explanation about getting Northstar on the team was a bit...weak?

I mean, are the X-Men really concerned about 'PR'?!

http://bottlecityofkanga.blogspot.com/2009/04/uncanny-x-men-508-homosexual-gay-smut.html

It was close enough. We had a Vietnamese lesbian.♥