Clarification on the new Magik ??

[Leogam]

I am still confused !!!!! can someone explain to me how we have this new Illyana Rasputin, I know it started with House of M. Is this the real Illyana from 616 or a alternate timeline Illyana or an Illyana that was magically constructed by Belasco ?? Help

[KrullWall]

I am still confused !!!!! can someone explain to me how we have this new Illyana Rasputin, I know it started with House of M. Is this the real Illyana from 616 or a alternate timeline Illyana or an Illyana that was magically constructed by Belasco ?? Help

Me too? But I think the 616 died from the legacy virus and Belasco re-created her. But who is to say that he didnt re-create the 616 version in an evil goat form.

[4sake]

I am still confused !!!!! can someone explain to me how we have this new Illyana Rasputin, I know it started with House of M. Is this the real Illyana from 616 or a alternate timeline Illyana or an Illyana that was magically constructed by Belasco ?? Help

I think she's the real Illyana from 616/magically constructed by Belasco. He constructed her after he saw her in the HoM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magik_(comics)#Return

From wiki

Return

After finally overthrowing Amanda Sefton as leader, Belasco returned to his previous position as ruler of Limbo. He created a powerful spell to return Illyana to him after seeing her reappear during the House of M crossover event. The spell managed to pull forth the remaining essence and memories of Illyana still held within Limbo's dimension. The essence took shape and became the Darkchylde. Unfortunately, Belasco was not satisfied with his creation, claiming that it was not the true Illyana Rasputin (due to her lack of Illyana's soul) and banished her to the outer parts of Limbo.

The newly reborn Darkchylde eventually found some of the teenage mutants who became separated from their teammates and were being attacked by a horde of demons. Although she aided the mutants against the demons, she later used a spell to immobilize them in an attempt at stealing a portion of Pixie's soul to create both a bloodstone and a new Soulsword as Illyana felt Pixie had the most innocent of souls present. The spell was interrupted by Anole, who broke free from Illyana's confinement and punched her away.

Pixie's soul extraction was partially successful however, creating one part of a bloodstone pendant and a soul dagger. Illyana then attempted to complete the process and destroy those who wished to interfere, but a reformed Rockslide stopped her and continued to assault her. During the beating, Illyana's human memories of her friends and life among the X-Men seemingly returned to her.

Although only a part of Pixie's soul was taken, Illyana then informed the other students that Pixie was now capable of performing magic, the hole in her soul having been filled with "black magic." She taught Pixie a simple teleportation spell, since Belasco sealed his castle from her own magic and powers, and the young mutants made an attack on Belasco. During this battle Illyana displayed that she still has the ability to cover her entire body in armor at will. Belasco was soundly defeated by the combined efforts of Illyana (using a bloodstone amulet) and the Xavier student body.

Illyana then gave into her Darkchylde persona and announced her desire to create several more bloodstones in order to become god-like in power. Before Illyana could begin the process, however, she was interrupted by the arrival of her brother, Colossus, who questions if his "Little Snowflake" has indeed returned to life. In a cry of pain and desperation, Illyana sent everyone back to Earth, rejecting Piotr's offer of help. Illyana then reclaimed the throne of Limbo with S'ym and N'astirh as her servants, and informs them that her next move is to reclaim her soul.

[Seikun21]

She is about as close to the real Illyana as you are going to get. She was created by Belasco in Limbo by whatever essence she left in there before she died, as well as Belasco's memory of her, which got him the Darkchylde and in the end only thing she was missing was her soul. And she managed to get most of it back when she was reunited with her Soul Sword.

She's still incomplete with a few pieces of her soul missing, but nobody's perfect.

[4sake]

Me too? But I think the 616 died from the legacy virus and Belasco re-created her. But who is to say that he didnt re-create the 616 version in an evil goat form.

I'm petty sure he did re-create the 616 one.

[KrullWall]

I'm petty sure he did re-create the 616 one.

Let's say that. That's the one we love

[Leogam]

Limbo is filled with temporal rifts and stepping disks that travel between time & space. They could have said that they now found the real 616 Illyana who was lost in limbo, and the little illyanna that died of the Legacy Virus was the wrong one they brought back. Limbo is very tricky, there's a lot the writers could have worked with. I just hate clones or copies of things and we have to just pretend it's the real deal.

[Darkchylde]

Limbo is filled with temporal rifts and stepping disks that travel between time & space. They could have said that they now found the real 616 Illyana who was lost in limbo, and the little illyanna that died of the Legacy Virus was the wrong one they brought back. Limbo is very tricky, there's a lot the writers could have worked with. I just hate clones or copies of things and we have to just pretend it's the real deal.

But this Illyana, the one Belasco brought back, ISN'T a clone or a facsimile. Chris Yost & Craig Kyle explained in New X-Men's "Quest for Magik" storyline that Belasco, upon seeing "Illyana" restored to life in House of M, was determined to find her. He couldn't, of course, because she died, so he recreated her by gathering her essence into a new body - except he only reconstituted the Darkchilde portion of Illyana's soul. The remainder - that which represented the human side of Illyana - was still out there somewhere.

Recently, Illyana, as the Darkchilde, recovered the Soulsword, and with it another piece of her missing soul, which was enough to make her human again (if only in appearance, and occasional horn manifestations notwithstanding). The remainder of her soul was inside the Beatrix Medallion as bloodstones (as you might recall from Magik's 1980's limited series and recent issues of New X-Men and X-Infernus).

Essentially, the Illyana we have now is a resurrected Illyana who still possesses only 2/5 of her soul.

[Flinkman]

i dunno why they didn't just have it be the HoM version of Illyana that was alive & well in that reality....which, technically speaking, was 616 so it'd be the closest thing to the "real" Illyana we could possibly get.

i'm just going to pretend that's what happened, a magical construct of Illyana isn't very convincing.

[Darkchylde]

i dunno why they didn't just have it be the HoM version of Illyana that was alive & well in that reality....which, technically speaking, was 616 so it'd be the closest thing to the "real" Illyana we could possibly get.

i'm just going to pretend that's what happened, a magical construct of Illyana isn't very convincing.

Because the House of M Illyana, while she was essentially the 616 Illyana, was created by the whims of the Scarlet Witch and disappeared as soon as the world was restored. (Hawkeye was the exception, of course, but that's because Wanda intended to bring him back.)

The fact is that Illyana was/is one of those characters who had multiple possibilites for resurrection; Kyle and Yost just didn't choose the commonly-held temporal theory that has circulated for years. Since Marvel took pains to say that the little Illyana that died of the Legacy Virus WAS Illyana/Magik, Yost and Kyle brought her back in the only way they thought appropriate, through magic (or 'magik', as it were).

[4sake]

i dunno why they didn't just have it be the HoM version of Illyana that was alive & well in that reality....which, technically speaking, was 616 so it'd be the closest thing to the "real" Illyana we could possibly get.

i'm just going to pretend that's what happened, a magical construct of Illyana isn't very convincing.

Think Belasco saw the HoM Illyana (which was/is kind of technically the 616 Illyana just living) the constructed her essence after/during HoM or as it was switch back to the 616.

[Flinkman]

Because the House of M Illyana, while she was essentially the 616 Illyana, was created by the whims of the Scarlet Witch and disappeared as soon as the world was restored. (Hawkeye was the exception, of course, but that's because Wanda intended to bring him back.)
but if she was in Limbo at the time....whose to say her magic would effect her? i dunno, i just like that explanation better personally.

[SayOcean]

but if she was in Limbo at the time....whose to say her magic would effect her? i dunno, i just like that explanation better personally.well it didnt happen, so i dont know why some people would try to rehash the idea.....and magik hasnt been back for very long a simple search would've probably told you more about it

[yanapryde]

The Scarlet Witch altered reality through the House of M.

As a result, many previously dead characters were restored to life (including Magik)

Belasco sensed this while in Limbo (Magik's life force)

When the Scarlet Witch restored reality at the end of the House of M story, all resurrections etc were reversed.

Belasco was no longer able to 'sense her' and as a result, lost his marbles.

He kicked Amanda Sefton's butt out of Limbo, used his magic to resurrect Illyana, but was unable to restore her SOUL as well.

X-Infernus illustrates Illyana's battle to regain her soul but was only able to reclaim her soul sword. She now has 2/5 of her soul, which is the same amount she had pre-Inferno.

The Illyana we see now, is THE REAL ILLYANA RASPUTIN restored.

[NielsVanEekelen]

Kids these days...

Don't they teach Basic Timeshift/Dimension Duplication in school anymore? It's really quite simple if you have the variables of fourth-dimensional sorcery down.

[Flinkman]

well it didnt happen, so i dont know why some people would try to rehash the idea
well i don't want anyone to rehash the idea, i'm just saying it would've been EASIER & LESS CONFUSING if they had gone that route.

either way i'm just glad she's back.

[Alphaxman]

I would have preferred the temporal explanation better than the recreate her body thing, but I also glad she is back and really don’t care how. Now if she could only save her best friend from the evil sliver bullet.