Poll 2: Is Prof X a true X-Men?

[the Hornet]

This is sort of a follow up to my poll "Who are the original X-Men?". I think based on that poll, it is obvious that most of us feel that Prof X, although he found the team and taught them, was not really a member of the team. It was his team but he was not a member. However, there were times when he could walk when he did participate in team missions. Would you have countered him as a member then? If so would you say he was a true member then, in the sense of being including in the team roster?

[skatalite]

He led the X-Men for a long time, so, yes, he is a member and a "true" member of the team.

[psychic_therapy]

He was the mentor, leader, and "coach" so I would have to say he is a part of the team.

[Mitteloss]

I think of the Original X-Men as: Cyclops, Iceman, Beast, Angel and Marvel Girl, with Professor X. So yes, and since X-Men #1.

[$5 Milkshake]

He was the mentor, leader, and "coach" so I would have to say he is a part of the team.

And founder! So yeah, he sucks but it seems like an obvious yes here.

[Joe Acro]

Without him, there is no X-Men.

[the Hornet]

wow, where are the people who did not vote in prof as a original X-Men in my first poll? Still early I guess. What always confuses me is why it is always referred to as the original 5 and not 6. I guess if Prof X is considered a member from the start, the O5 is actually a reference to the 5 original STUDENTS not X-Men. Which in itself is now invalid since we know that Sage was already a student. So in that case, O5 is actually referencing to the 5 original recruits to the new team Prof X is forming, from his point of view.

So when talking about originals, Prof X is one too.

I sure am glad I did not put an option that says "Hornet, get over it already!", that would have been the majority, hahaha.

[x_goalkeeper]

The idea, teachings, and leadership is from him. Magneto, Cyclops, Emma, Storm, at various times took over.. but if he is not a true X-Man then no one else is.

[Shyft]

Not to me. Proff X is Charlie and the X-Men are the Angels.

[x_goalkeeper]

Not to me. Proff X is Charlie and the X-Men are the Angels.

Maybe if the team name is Charlie's X-Men then maybe you are correct that he is not a X-Man :biggrin:

[Dagger]

Shouldn't it be Is Prof. X a true X-Man?

[Shyft]

Maybe if the team name is Charlie's X-Men then maybe you are correct that he is not a X-Man :biggrin:

well one COULD take X-Men to mean "men of X" and Charlie often DID refer to them as "MY X-Men" denoting Ownership, not membership!

Hazah.

[Omega Alpha]

Xavier wasn't an X-man from X-men #1, just like he was not a New Mutant from New Mutants #1, or Cyclops, Emma, Beast, etc, weren't New X-men from New X-men (v2) #1. He was the teacher and mentor, but not part of the team.

[The Black Guardian]

Xavier is the truest X-Man.

[x_goalkeeper]

well one COULD take X-Men to mean "men of X" and Charlie often DID refer to them as "MY X-Men" denoting Ownership, not membership!

Hazah.

Since I do not know Hazah means, then you win :wink:

[Gilda Dent]

He was the leader and a member. Those are not mutually exclusive categories. The team leader is almost always a member of the team. Sometimes the coach is a team member, as with Pete Rose and Bill Russell.

In the early issues, he frequently participated in missions, both those that occurred at the mansion and those in the field.

[Omega Alpha]

He was the leader and a member. Those are not mutually exclusive categories. The team leader is almost always a member of the team. Sometimes the coach is a team member, as with Pete Rose and Bill Russell.

But he was the teacher foremost, which puts it into another category. Like I said, it makes as much sense to call him a X-man from the start as it is to call him a New Mutant, or to call Cyclops a New X-man (not counting Morrison's team on this one, obviously). You can even make a case for him after GSXM, where the X-men passed from a school to a pure and simple superhero team, but not before.

[Gilda Dent]

But he was the teacher foremost, which puts it into another category. Like I said, it makes as much sense to call him a X-man from the start as it is to call him a New Mutant, or to call Cyclops a New X-man (not counting Morrison's team on this one, obviously). You can even make a case for him after GSXM, where the X-men passed from a school to a pure and simple superhero team, but not before.

I'm pretty sure I can and did make a case for his being an X-Man from the beginning. He functioned both as coach/teacher and as player. The original X-Men graduated fairly early on in the original run and Cyclops took over as team leader, at which point it was no longer primarily a school. The new X-Men were adults. It didn't become primarily a school again until the New Mutants were recruited.

Cyclops wasn't a New X-Man because he was an original X-Man. Those are mutually exclusive categories. The new X-Men combined with those remaining form the original X-Men became the X-Men.