View Full Version : From Hayseed to X-Man: Cannonball Appreciation
NewMutant
04-13-2009, 03:55 PM
A thread dedicated to the New Mutants first graduate...
Samuel Guthrie...CANNONBALL
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/costumes.jpg
Sam Guthrie(Cannonball) was created by Chris Claremont and Bob McLeod
Samuel Zachary Guthrie generates a thermal/kinetic field around himself which renders him invulnerable and allows him to fly. Though it usually emanates from his lower body, he has been able to extend it outwards as a shield and channel it to his fists for added punch. The eldest of ten children from a Kentucky coal mining family, Cannonball is one of a few X-Men from a southern, rural background and has maintained the values of civility, hard work, and a strong commitment to his beliefs throughout his career as a superhero. When his father died in a mining accident Cannonball took role of the father figure till leaving to learn to control his powers. Several of his siblings are also mutants and have joined X-Men-related teams, including Paige (Husk), Jay (Icarus), and Melody.
Cannonball was a founding member of the X-Men's junior team, The New Mutants. Here he met his best friend Roberto DaCosta (Sunspot) and two long time girlfriends, Lila Cheney and later Tabitha Smith (Boom Boom/Boomer/Meltdown). The New Mutants were co-lead by Cannonball and teammate Dani Moonstar (Psyche/Mirage/Moonstar). Cannonball was with the New Mutants for historical X-Men battles such as: Mutant Massacre, Fall of the Mutants, Inferno, and X-Tinction Agenda. During his time with the New Mutants he was trained by Xavier and Magneto until Cable took control of the team turning them into a mutant rebel militia known as X-Force. The X-Men disapproved of X-Force's ways and once Cable was believed dead Cannonball took the role of leader and stood up to Xavier. Along with X-Force, Cannonball participated in famous X-Men battles: X-Cutioner's Song, Fatal Attraction, and Phalanx Covenant. Because of his dedication to Xavier's dream he joined the X-Men, becoming the first member of a secondary team to "graduate". During his initial run with the X-Men he became a sidekick to Wolverine - most notably battled the Dark Riders when they tried to replace Wolverine's adamantium, he defeated Gladiator on his own, helped fight against Onslaught, went undercover during Graydon Creed's Presidential Election with new pal Bobby Drake (Iceman), and fought Bastion during Operation: Zero Tolerance. His tenure was complicated by clashes with superiors and he eventually left to rejoin X-Force.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/123.jpg
Later Cannonball joined the X-Corps in Europe where he worked with some former New Mutants and X-Force teammates. After his teammate Darkstar was killed in battle Cannonball decided to leave X-Corp and rekindle with his ex-girlfriend Lila Cheney. Once he saw what was happening at Xaviers he could no longer stay away. He contacted Storm and she invited him to join her X.S.E. team where Cannonball would become an official government officer. Cannonball was no longer the X-Men newbie. He remained with the X.S.E. X-Men through Emma Frost and Cyclop's take over of the school. After getting injured in battle he left the team and briefly reunited with members of X-Force. Cannonball returned to the mansion to join Rogue's X-team. With a team full of mostly "former" villains Cannonball stuck close to his friend and former teammate Iceman. During their first battle Cannonball was mentally attacked by Serafina, a member of Children of the Vault. Cannonball hurt by her manipulation and blasted Serafina into their ship; leaving her lifeless body. After most of his team would betray the X-Men he would battle Mr. Sinister and the Marauders where he would sustain grave injuries but would recovery in time for the final battle of the Messiah Complex.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/Cannonball.jpg
Cannonball moved to San Fran with the rest of the X-Men, soon after he defended the city against a Secret Invasion by the Skrulls. He took the lead in reuniting with his original teammates the New Mutants to battle Xaviers son Legion. He has become a go to solider and leader in Cyclops army of X-Men. Cyclops believes Cannonball might be the next generations leader of the mutant race. Cannonball assisted the X-Men in battling Norman Osborn and his Dark Avengers/X-Men and the creation of Utopia. Where he helps take care of all the farming needs on the mutant island. During Necrosha Selene resurrected the New Mutants former school rivals, the Hellions. Then the Second Coming of Hope had Cannonball lead a team of X-Men in a Hellbound mission to limbo. Bastion was defeat but not without the loss of Cannonball's former leader/mentor Cable. Sadly there is no rest for Cannonball are quickly taken back to limbo for one of their hardest battles yet in the Fall of the New Mutants. The New Mutants won the battle with many costs; as last result Cannonball kills some of their enemies, and Legion (freed to defeat the elder god) changes reality... Age of X. After reality changes back Cannonball kept his memories of the other world and asks Emma Frost to remove them. Due to these events Cannonball steped down as leader and asked to be put under observation, not being able to process the recent events. During this time he and Moonstar find an attraction torwards one another.
Post Schism Cannonball leaves Moonstar, Cyclops, and Utopia and joins Husk, Wolverine, and the new Jean Grey School for Higher Learning back in New York.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/cannonballtv.jpg
Cannonball was a playable bonus character in X-Men Legends 2 for PSP. In the animation side he was featured in one episode of the 90s X-Men: The Animated Series. And had a small reoccuring role with the "New Mutants" in X-Men: Evolution. He did not appear in the first season (and only) of Wolverine and the X-Men. One day we can hope for a New Mutants animated series, X-Men animated series where he is a main character, and an appearance in a feature film!
Discuss the past/present/future and share photos of your hayseed turned hero... Cannonball!
Sunbird
04-13-2009, 03:59 PM
Cannonball has been awesome from the get go, except for one little hiccup when he first went from leading X-Force to become an X-man, and somehow the assured and confident Sam who stood up to Havoc, Storm and Xavier in the X-Cuttioners Song and its aftermath, Magneto in Fatal Attractions and so on and so forth was suddenly de-aged and de-balled and became unconfident, bumbling and deferential. Luckily it didn't stick and he was allowed to kick the **** out of Gladiator. Course, the early 90s X-Force was my first comic book, so I am slightly biased.
Justin K.
04-13-2009, 04:02 PM
First of all, awesome thread effort, like the writeup and pics
Second, I truly appreciate Cannonball as well
Most of my exposure to him was from X-Force
90s X-men, and Carey's X-men
marvell2100
04-13-2009, 04:10 PM
Cannonball is a great character. They messed him up when they took him off X-Force and "graduated" him to the X-Men. It's good that that have him back with the New Mutants instead of wasting away in X-Purgatory/Limbo.
SayOcean
04-13-2009, 04:11 PM
agreed i love me some cannonballs
Justin K.
04-13-2009, 04:12 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/costumes.jpg
How did Sam go from skinny guy to mr muscle?
I noticed the change between his purple costume
and the blue one that comes after that
SayOcean
04-13-2009, 04:24 PM
yeah i liked it how he was a skinny goofy looking kid
4sake
04-13-2009, 04:25 PM
My Fav. Cannonball pics.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33603/687307-cannonball_009_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/cannonball_009/105-687307/)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/110706-165640-cannonball_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/165640-cannonball/105-110706/)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/370717-155999-cannonball_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/155999-cannonball/105-370717/)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/21117/415773-Picture 1_large.png (http://www.comicvine.com/picture-1/105-415773/)
4sake
04-13-2009, 04:27 PM
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/217515-168804-cannonball_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/168804-cannonball/105-217515/)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/110005-38064-cannonball_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/38064-cannonball/105-110005/)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5648/339378-32632-cannonball_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/32632-cannonball/105-339378/)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/375604-96978-cannonball_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/96978-cannonball/105-375604/)
Justin K.
04-13-2009, 04:29 PM
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/110706-165640-cannonball_large.jpg
Where's this from?
Looks like something out of a video game
I like it
Peter F.
04-13-2009, 04:33 PM
Cannonball returned to mansion to join Rogue's team. With a team full of mostly "former" villiams he quickly became good friends with teammate Bobby Drake (Iceman).
He's been friends with Bobby for a while now, long before they were on Rogue team together.
wanderlust565
04-13-2009, 04:37 PM
Cannonball rocks, I always thought of him as like the Cyclops of the New Mutants.......you know only likeable
Perfection/Emma 2
04-13-2009, 04:39 PM
Cannonball is awesome
4sake
04-13-2009, 04:42 PM
Where's this from?
Looks like something out of a video game
I like it
I got off of comicvine.com It maybe fan art of something, I'm not really sure.
http://www.comicvine.com/cannonball/29-1496/earth-616-cannonball/108-51/165640-cannonball/105-110706/
$5 Milkshake
04-13-2009, 04:43 PM
I love Cannonball. Despite him having the grossest costumes in X-Franchise history.
Justin K.
04-13-2009, 04:44 PM
I got off of comicvine.com It maybe fan art of something, I'm not really sure.
http://www.comicvine.com/cannonball/29-1496/earth-616-cannonball/108-51/165640-cannonball/105-110706/
I noticed the link to comicvine
Wondering where it's originally from
it's all right though...
Justin K.
04-13-2009, 04:50 PM
I love Cannonball. Despite him having the grossest costumes in X-Franchise history.
I like these 2 the most
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/10069/539365-cannonball_00.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/10069/558864-cannonball_00.jpg
Sgt. Preston
04-13-2009, 04:51 PM
Cannonball's a great character. Kid's come a long way from the naive, goofy-looking farm boy in New Mutants. Hopefully Wells remembers this in his depiction of Guthrie.
Really enjoyed Carey's take on him.
$5 Milkshake
04-13-2009, 04:52 PM
I like these 2 the most
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/10069/539365-cannonball_00.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/10069/558864-cannonball_00.jpg
I agree those are the best, but the first one....what's up with the collar? Are those bells? Did he always get lost in the mansion so they forced him to wear that so they would know where he was at all times?
Justin K.
04-13-2009, 04:54 PM
I agree those are the best, but the first one....what's up with the collar? Are those bells? Did he always get lost in the mansion so they forced him to wear that so they would know where he was at all times?
The Children of the Vault had those on their costume too
most of them did (Perro, Aguja, Serafina)
A new trend perhaps?
yanapryde
04-13-2009, 04:56 PM
Carey made Cannoball hot.
Confident, lil' cocky, southern drawel....I loved it.
I can't wait for him in New Mutants!
He's my X crush.
Mr. Palmer
04-13-2009, 05:00 PM
Cannonball is my favorite X-Man. Heck, I have all 3 of his action figures sitting here on my desk staring at me. He rawks!
Justin K.
04-13-2009, 05:00 PM
He's my X crush.
He's got personality, but don't forget about the bod (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/Cannonball.jpg).
XaviersMisprint
04-13-2009, 05:24 PM
He's got personality, but don't forget about the bod (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/Cannonball.jpg).
where do people keep finding these seminude fan art images? seriously there are nude images of basically everyone its so bizarre!
i remember i used to like drawing shirtless northstar when i was in middle school, i don't know why.... ;D
cannonball is excellent. i feel like he would be very intimidating in reality.
the Hornet
04-13-2009, 05:28 PM
He is the only X-Man I prefer over the O5 and that is saying a lot. As for going from skinny to muscles, well, years of field work can do that I think so that is a small issue. My fav moments were his confidence in leading X-Force despite bad odds to coming on his own among Storm's XSE where basicaly took control over the team to lead them on a rescue mission for Bishop to Carey's cool character moments with him. Without a doubt his best moments as a character were in Fabian;s X-Force but he has had some nice potrayal by Claremont and Carey too.
4sake
04-13-2009, 05:36 PM
A few Alternate Earths/Realities/Futures Cannonball
What If...? Deadly Genesis : Cannonball
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/388640-77929-cannonball_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/77929-cannonball/105-388640/)
AoA : Cannonball
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/110682-176158-cannonball_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/176158-cannonball/105-110682/)
Future Cannonball from Cable (Vol.2)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11768/431397-cable_vol__2_3@2_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/cable_vol__2_32/105-431397/)
Earth-1610 Ultimate Cannonball
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11768/431419-ultimate_x-men_63@2_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/ultimate_x-men_632/105-431419/)
NewMutant
04-13-2009, 06:59 PM
First of all, awesome thread effort, like the writeup and pics
Second, I truly appreciate Cannonball as well
Most of my exposure to him was from X-Force
90s X-men, and Carey's X-men
Thank you! I was surprised Cannonball didn't have a fan page already! He is top 5 of my favorite characters!
NewMutant
04-13-2009, 07:01 PM
Where's this from?
Looks like something out of a video game
I like it
That IS from a video game... He was an unlockable character in X-Men Legends 2 but only for the PSP.
Has anyone played as him? I only had it for the PS2... I was tempted to get a PSP because of it... but it would have been for one game, and I'm not much of a gamer.
NewMutant
04-13-2009, 07:04 PM
He's been friends with Bobby for a while now, long before they were on Rogue team together.
Very true... I feel like it validated their friendship more. I was just trying to mention characters that he is close to and it fit better there than before. But it did begin when he first joined and they both went undercover together for the Graydon Creed election and in the Kelly/Seagle run.
I'll try and update!
NewMutant
04-13-2009, 07:31 PM
Cannonball rocks, I always thought of him as like the Cyclops of the New Mutants.......you know only likeable
I completely agree.
Justin K.
04-14-2009, 11:34 PM
I like how Ultimate Cannonball was portrayed as slim
He didn't become big and buff, not that it's a bad thing...
Justin K.
04-14-2009, 11:57 PM
For you Cannyball fans :smile:
psychic_therapy
04-15-2009, 12:20 AM
Nice work Justin... but Cannonball on what appears to be his death bed?
Justin K.
04-15-2009, 12:23 AM
Nice work Justin... but Cannonball on what appears to be his death bed?
Not Death Bed, gazing dreamingly at Iceman
psychic_therapy
04-15-2009, 12:25 AM
Not Death Bed, gazing dreamingly at Iceman
Ah... okay...
Anyway Cannonball's been a fav of mine since the New Mutants days. Too bad his team leader position couldn't be transferred with him as he progressed to X-Men status.
Justin K.
04-15-2009, 12:27 AM
Ah... okay...
Anyway Cannonball's been a fav of mine since the New Mutants days. Too bad his team leader position couldn't be transferred with him as he progressed to X-Men status.
It's hard to be leader being on a team with Wolverine, Cyclops, Storm, and Jean Grey
psychic_therapy
04-15-2009, 12:35 AM
It's hard to be leader being on a team with Wolverine, Cyclops, Storm, and Jean Grey
Maybe he could've when he was on Rogue's team in X-Men.
Wolverine is the best at what he does... which is actions and berserker stuff, not exactly a leader type.
The others I completey understand though.
Justin K.
04-15-2009, 12:38 AM
Maybe he could've when he was on Rogue's team in X-Men.
Wolverine is the best at what he does... which is actions and berserker stuff, not exactly a leader type.
The others I completey understand though.
That was around the period where Wolverine had no nose
Cannonball helped him out. I wonder if Sam is affected by Tabby's death
them having a relationship before, or if he even knows
psychic_therapy
04-15-2009, 12:42 AM
That was around the period where Wolverine had no nose
Cannonball helped him out. I wonder if Sam is affected by Tabby's death
them having a relationship before, or if he even knows
You'd find out at the funeral I guess.
If an ex of mine died, I'd feel some sorrow... but not as much as family or current friends passing away.
Justin K.
04-15-2009, 12:42 AM
You'd find out at the funeral I guess.
If an ex of mine died, I'd feel some sorrow... but not as much as family or current friends passing away.
Did they officially break up, or did their lives just drift apart?
psychic_therapy
04-15-2009, 12:45 AM
Did they officially break up, or did their lives just drift apart?
I think regardless of the goodbyes or no, it's basically the same. And in that situation personally I would feel some grief and sorrow but not to the degree of family or current friends passing.
x_goalkeeper
04-15-2009, 01:55 AM
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5648/339378-32632-cannonball_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/32632-cannonball/105-339378/)
This is my favorite picture of Cannonball.. Paul Walker can be cast for this Cannonball! :cool:
worstblogever
04-15-2009, 03:06 AM
I love Cannonball. Despite him having the grossest costumes in X-Franchise history.
The "C is for Cookie" styled outfit is kind of heinous.
The Madureia issue where he takes Gladiator's hardest punch, and then redirects the kinetic energy from it back into him, totally pwning him?
That's when Sam stopped being one of the kids for me, hands down. He was an X-Man, and he should be taking s*** from no one.
KrullWall
04-15-2009, 06:55 AM
YEEE HAWWW! I love me some good ole fashion Cannonball
NewMutant
04-15-2009, 08:16 AM
Maybe he could've when he was on Rogue's team in X-Men.
Wolverine is the best at what he does... which is actions and berserker stuff, not exactly a leader type.
The others I completey understand though.
Yeah... I don't see Rogue as a leader at all and then you have Cable and Cannonball on her team. Cannonball really should have been leader. But I guess the whole point with Rogue as leader was the team failed.
NewMutant
04-15-2009, 08:18 AM
Did they officially break up, or did their lives just drift apart?
They drifted apart when he originally joined X-Men and then she started dating Sunspot and Sam walked in on them when he rejoined the team. But I doubt he knows of her death yet.
eggie
04-15-2009, 10:22 AM
They drifted apart when he originally joined X-Men and then she started dating Sunspot and Sam walked in on them when he rejoined the team. But I doubt he knows of her death yet.
The good ole X-Force days...how I miss that title...cannot wait for New Mutants to start!
SayOcean
04-15-2009, 12:13 PM
sam and tabby were more than just boyfriend and girlfriend....they were teammates lived together....id say they were pretty good friends
NewMutant
05-06-2009, 08:31 AM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/75765-95404-cannonball.jpg
Cannonball bump for New Mutants #1 day!
NewMutant
05-19-2009, 12:40 PM
I'm sorry... how can Marvel release a Marvel Bromance TPB and NOT included Cannonball/Sunspot OR Cannonball/Iceman?!?!?!?!!?!
Justin K.
05-19-2009, 04:30 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/75765-95404-cannonball.jpg
Cannonball bump for New Mutants #1 day!
I never liked his X-Treme look, or his yellow and orange costume
Bit I enjoyed the one with the C on it (Supernovas, etc.)
I also enjoyed the blue and yellow ones from after x-cutioners song
and when he joined the x-men in the 90s.
yanapryde
05-19-2009, 04:33 PM
Yes. This is my favorite of Sam's uniforms over the course of his X-career.:smile:
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/0/06/Cannonball.jpg/440px-Cannonball.jpg
NewMutant
05-20-2009, 04:13 PM
I never liked his X-Treme look, or his yellow and orange costume
Bit I enjoyed the one with the C on it (Supernovas, etc.)
I also enjoyed the blue and yellow ones from after x-cutioners song
and when he joined the x-men in the 90s.
Where u been?
He didn't really have a definite look in X-Treme because of Koredys art. I liked his blue and yellow X-Force one.
Justin K.
05-21-2009, 01:17 AM
What is your favourite Cannonball haircut?
NewMutant
05-21-2009, 08:37 AM
What is your favourite Cannonball haircut?
the buzz cut in X-Treme was hot. But they all are. his worst the was the flat top in NM.
eggie
05-21-2009, 09:01 AM
Yes. This is my favorite of Sam's uniforms over the course of his X-career.:smile:
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/0/06/Cannonball.jpg/440px-Cannonball.jpg
This one and the one that Boom-Boom designed in X-Force 20-21 (can't remember which issue exactly) are my favorite Sam unifroms!!
The black makes him look tottaly B.A.!!
NewMutant
06-15-2009, 10:34 AM
Pretty fly...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqwK1yn44mk&feature=related
NewMutant
08-17-2009, 11:14 AM
I'm kinda bummed this appreciation thread hasn't taken off more.
Anyways...
I was on ebay and found this issue of Marvel Team Up featuring Spider-Man and Cannonball. Anybody read it? How is it? What is it about?
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/64585229_tp.jpg
Faded
08-17-2009, 11:32 AM
I like Bachalo's costume the best, too, but I don't feel like black is his color.
If it wouldn't be a total swagger jacker, I'd have him wear Exiles' Mimic's costume.
the Hornet
08-17-2009, 05:18 PM
I too liked the one from X-Force #20 -21 and I actually don't mind his current one from NM.
dustndreams
08-17-2009, 06:18 PM
So I'm loving this thread. I always appreciated this guy and Cannonball is a great tactician and has an expansive power set. I've always wanted to see the top x-men tacticians pick a team, do war games for a few books/or as a story in the back on a secluded spot Big 10 tournament style
..wild card teams being thrown in from the losing teams w/ the losers picking the wildcard leader and the picked leader picking the squad
Canonball's team would make the finals
the Hornet
08-18-2009, 02:15 AM
changing direction, if Sam was to hook up with someone who is an active member of the x-men now, who do you think would complement him well?
ROGUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NewMutant
08-18-2009, 08:27 AM
changing direction, if Sam was to hook up with someone who is an active member of the x-men now, who do you think would complement him well?
ROGUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Arachne
08-18-2009, 05:56 PM
I kind of like that idea, actually. Someone suggested X-23 which would certainly be interesting, but she's a bit young, I think.
RoguefanAM
08-18-2009, 06:26 PM
NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
...:tongue:
NewMutant
08-18-2009, 07:00 PM
I kind of like that idea, actually. Someone suggested X-23 which would certainly be interesting, but she's a bit young, I think.
I'd rather Rogue. She is too young.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
...:tongue:
Damn you! :wink:
Justin K.
08-18-2009, 07:05 PM
I object to Rogue and Cannonball. The only thing I really see the two having in common is being from the south.
They have worked together in X-treme X-men, but Rogue was with Gambit at the time, meaning no time for flirting.
GambitXRemy
08-18-2009, 07:09 PM
I think cannonball has been groomed to be the next leader of the x-men like Cyclops was
Cannonball's a great character. Kid's come a long way from the naive, goofy-looking farm boy in New Mutants. Hopefully Wells remembers this in his depiction of Guthrie.
Really enjoyed Carey's take on him.
Yep he's gone from a naive somewhat insecure country hick who buckled under criticism. To a guy with spine of steel who will take on all commers.
GambitXRemy
08-18-2009, 07:44 PM
In The new mutants series it all ready seems that cyclops has take the role as Xavier and cannonball is taking a more early days Cyclops
RoguefanAM
08-18-2009, 07:44 PM
I object to Rogue and Cannonball. The only thing I really see the two having in common is being from the south.
They have worked together in X-treme X-men, but Rogue was with Gambit at the time, meaning no time for flirting.
Who says they really have to have anything in common? Opposites attract sometimes. Cyclops and Emma don't seem to have much in common on the surface as well, besides being emotionally constipated.
I don't know, I guess like the idea of him being with Rogue because he's so sweet. Remy's a charmer, but he hardly goes into the 'aww, how adorkable' category. He's too mischievous and casa nova for that.
the Hornet
08-18-2009, 07:55 PM
Who say's they really have to be have anything in common? Opposites attract sometimes. Cyclops and Emma don't seem to have much in common on the surface as well, besides being emotionally constipated.
I don't know, I guess like the idea of him being with Rogue because he's so sweet. Remy's a charmer, but he hardly goes into the 'aww, how adorkable' category. He's too mischievous and casa nova for that.
Remy is better off with Jean, Jean has a hidden wild streak that can Remy can bring out without all the emotional baggage of Logan. Plus they are both Storm's close friends and I totally can see Storm being stuck in the middle of the arguments and making up.
Sam and Rogue actually have a long history (even though some were retconed into existence) and came from different upbringing despite being from the south and they both have different levels of strenths that can complement each other well.
coveredinbees
08-18-2009, 07:58 PM
I'd rather see Jean and Sam than either of those. She hasn't been aging so it's not too much, maybe.
NewMutant
08-18-2009, 08:07 PM
Where are all these mini X-Men avatars coming from?
Also... has anyone played X-Men Legends 2 on PSP? I want to know what its like to play as Cannonball!
the Hornet
08-18-2009, 08:08 PM
I'd rather see Jean and Sam than either of those. She hasn't been aging so it's not too much, maybe.
eewwwwww........they are practically siblings due to the Cable connection:evilangry:
Hi-Fi
08-18-2009, 08:09 PM
I object to Rogue and Cannonball. The only thing I really see the two having in common is being from the south.
They have worked together in X-treme X-men, but Rogue was with Gambit at the time, meaning no time for flirting.
They also worked together in Rogue's team and Sam's speech to her in X-Men #200 makes me swoon every time I read that issue. Plus they've been friends for a long time.
Sam and Rogue forever.
the Hornet
08-18-2009, 08:13 PM
They also worked together in Rogue's team and Sam's speech to her in X-Men #200 makes me swoon every time I read that issue. Plus they've been friends for a long time.
Sam and Rogue forever.
oh I don't have my X-Men #200 with me, can you refresh my memory on what he said?:smile:
Hi-Fi
08-18-2009, 08:23 PM
oh I don't have my X-Men #200 with me, can you refresh my memory on what he said?:smile:
She had just absorbed Hecatomb, so she was basically lost inside her own mind, now residence of other eight billion minds.
SAM: Penny for 'em.
ROGUE: What?
SAM: Your thoughts. Usual market price.
ROGUE: This is-- where she lived. That's all I'm thinking. This is somewhere Rogue thought of as home.
SAM: You really don't think yourself as-- being Rogue?
ROGUE: Sometimes. Sometimes not. She's in here somewhere. But she can barely make herself heard. Too many voices. Most of them shrieking or pleading. She's-- trying, but she's not-- holding together all that well.
At this poin, Sam puts his hand on her shoulder.
ROGUE: You shouldn't do that, Guthrie. If I turn my head too quickly-- if my sking touches yours-- you're dead.
SAM: Ah know it. You're not alone, Rogue. We're not gonna stop comin' at this thing until we fix it. Mah word on that. Cyke and the others're downstairs. But you take your time. They'll wait.
the Hornet
08-18-2009, 08:46 PM
She had just absorbed Hecatomb, so she was basically lost inside her own mind, now residence of other eight billion minds.
SAM: Penny for 'em.
ROGUE: What?
SAM: Your thoughts. Usual market price.
ROGUE: This is-- where she lived. That's all I'm thinking. This is somewhere Rogue thought of as home.
SAM: You really don't think yourself as-- being Rogue?
ROGUE: Sometimes. Sometimes not. She's in here somewhere. But she can barely make herself heard. Too many voices. Most of them shrieking or pleading. She's-- trying, but she's not-- holding together all that well.
At this poin, Sam puts his hand on her shoulder.
ROGUE: You shouldn't do that, Guthrie. If I turn my head too quickly-- if my sking touches yours-- you're dead.
SAM: Ah know it. You're not alone, Rogue. We're not gonna stop comin' at this thing until we fix it. Mah word on that. Cyke and the others're downstairs. But you take your time. They'll wait.
oh yeah, this was before everything hit the fan right? I remember it now too. Excellent stuff this. In a perfect world, Carey will be writing all the x-books that I care about.
Justin K.
08-18-2009, 09:22 PM
They also worked together in Rogue's team and Sam's speech to her in X-Men #200 makes me swoon every time I read that issue. Plus they've been friends for a long time.
Sam and Rogue forever.
It was a good speech, but in the end, I still see them as good friends. 90s, Bobby went on a roadtrip with Rogue, and was there for her. I see him more as a friend though. She's the type who gets along with guys without being their boyfriend, one of the guys. well, that's how I see it :P
the Hornet
08-18-2009, 10:06 PM
It was a good speech, but in the end, I still see them as good friends. 90s, Bobby went on a roadtrip with Rogue, and was there for her. I see him more as a friend though. She's the type who gets along with guys without being their boyfriend, one of the guys. well, that's how I see it :P
I agree about Rogue easily getting along with the boys but think there is a possibility of romance with Sam. I always felt that Rogue relationship were in these stages -
- Cody - childhood friend with experimentation
- Longshot - first crush
- Gambit - that crucial first love, passionate and ever so stressful and yet sweet
I think Rogue still has room for her true soul mate and would like to see if Sam can fill that slot.
NewMutant
08-25-2009, 09:38 AM
New Mutants week bump!
yanapryde
08-25-2009, 09:41 AM
I would let Sam Guthrie do dirty dirty things to me.
WHAT? who said that?
Seccruz
08-25-2009, 09:58 AM
I would let Sam Guthrie do dirty dirty things to me.
WHAT? who said that?
LOL!!! who wouldn't?
yanapryde
08-25-2009, 10:00 AM
LOL!!! who wouldn't?
Ya but he's a gentleman.
He's not havin any "do me in the sky" business like his little Sis.
'Front of his mother and siblings for crying out loud!
PAIGE! Show some manners and restraint! And help me with your brother's zipper! Honestly. SOME people's kids!
SayOcean
08-25-2009, 10:02 AM
LOL!!! who wouldn't?Magma, and Dani, Karma, Doug, Warlock
okay so how would you guys think Sam's accent would sound: like Sam Stackhouse from True blood
or Lucas black from Fast and the furious (the one with lil bow wow) :frown:
NewMutant
08-25-2009, 11:46 AM
I would let Sam Guthrie do dirty dirty things to me.
WHAT? who said that?
LOL!!! who wouldn't?
Amen. Everyone loves a sexy southern boy.
That JonoGuy
10-25-2009, 01:57 AM
I was bored so I made a new avatar. Feel free to use it if you like.
Puunk
11-01-2009, 12:07 PM
Cannonball respectttttttt.
BrightestDay
11-01-2009, 05:39 PM
My first, and most extensive, exposure to Cannonball was during his stint as the youngest X-Man on the main team in the 90s. I really liked his story with Iceman going undercover in Creed's campaign and overall he just seems like a character I'd really like since I tend to prefer take action, heroic leader types best(plus he can fly and be slightly rebellious).
But, I never got into the New Mutants cast too much. They were already X-Force when I started reading comics and that wasn't a book I followed at all. Since I've been in the market for some new trades, here's a question for all the fans; who wrote the best Cannonball? What arcs/runs on which titles feature him doing his thing most prominently?
the Hornet
11-01-2009, 06:22 PM
My first, and most extensive, exposure to Cannonball was during his stint as the youngest X-Man on the main team in the 90s. I really liked his story with Iceman going undercover in Creed's campaign and overall he just seems like a character I'd really like since I tend to prefer take action, heroic leader types best(plus he can fly and be slightly rebellious).
But, I never got into the New Mutants cast too much. They were already X-Force when I started reading comics and that wasn't a book I followed at all. Since I've been in the market for some new trades, here's a question for all the fans; who wrote the best Cannonball? What arcs/runs on which titles feature him doing his thing most prominently?
Opinions will differ but I think it will down to who you personally enjoyed the most, maybe due mindset at the time, first time exposure or even the age. My favorites are definately Fabe, Carey and Claremont (X-Treme X-Men version too).
NewMutant
12-03-2009, 09:44 AM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/BWi7FLQWkKGrHgoH-CgEjlLl1-OzBK6b-1.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/973746-cannonball003_super.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/936212-7a1c4c4316549fc2da19334c55f8.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/976979-prv3509_pg2aa.jpg
NewMutant
12-03-2009, 09:45 AM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/978206-sam_cannonball_super.jpg
I love when Tony Daniel drew X-Force! Can someone actually make an Avatar of Cannonball of this for me? Thanks!
yanapryde
12-03-2009, 10:09 AM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/BWi7FLQWkKGrHgoH-CgEjlLl1-OzBK6b-1.jpg
That is one of my favorite images of Sam!
I'm trying to do some redesigns for the New Mutants right now, sans X's.
Stay Tuned!
4sake
01-07-2010, 09:53 PM
Cannonball & Warpath had mid-small parts in What If World War Hulk...
NewMutant
01-07-2010, 09:54 PM
Cannonball & Warpath had mid-small parts in What If World War Hulk...
Oh? What did they do?
4sake
01-07-2010, 10:02 PM
Oh? What did they do?
Look cool (both), used the powers a little (Sam) & die (petty much everyone other than the Hulk died.
Some art from the story they were in :
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/39876/1059740-picture_3_large.png (http://www.comicvine.com/picture_3/105-1059740/)
Justin K.
01-08-2010, 03:11 AM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/936212-7a1c4c4316549fc2da19334c55f8.jpg
Who drew this? I like it!
Thirteen
01-08-2010, 05:27 AM
Couple of notable omitted costumes in the thread.
The Graduation uniform
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/110700-160734-cannonball_large.JPG (http://www.comicvine.com/160734-cannonball/105-110700/)
And his Alan Davis designed costume when Sam returned as a full fledged X-Man under Claremont.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/110678-168570-cannonball_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/168570-cannonball/105-110678/)
I like the progression of Sam as a character and leader. The peak of this was in the issue of X-Force #19 where he explained the "Open hand vs the Closed Fist" to Xavier. It summed up where his character comes from. He's learned from Xavier, Magneto, and Cable and is in a unique position as a result.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/33035-4604-36874-1-x-force_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/4604-36874-1-x-force/105-33035/)
That said, I don't like to see Dani Moonstar sidelined in favor of the aggrandizement of Sam. They were partners and co-leaders with Danielle being cited as being ahead of Cyclop's tactical curve. It makes sense that she was out of the loop for a long time because of her sojourn in Asgard and being undercover but I would like to see some parity btw the 2 again or get her out from under him completely.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/980360-new_mutants_03_page_019_copia_3_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/new_mutants_03_page_019_copia_3/105-980360/)
Arachne
01-08-2010, 01:22 PM
I agree. I like Sam, but I'm constantly nervous that writers are going to put Dani down to make Sam look better. Silly, but true.
justinkos91, that picture was done by windriderx23 (http://windriderx23.deviantart.com/) at deviantART.
I kind of like that idea, actually. Someone suggested X-23 which would certainly be interesting, but she's a bit young, I think.
That was probably me on another thread. Laura’s under age right now so no. But I would all be for it in the future. Sam is gentle and kind, but at the same time he won’t be pushed around, so I think that he would be good for her.
I would let Sam Guthrie do dirty dirty things to me.
WHAT? who said that?
Wait your turn sweetheart! Sam’s showing me some southern hospitality.:biggrin:
Amen. Everyone loves a sexy southern boy.
Which begs the question why he doesn't have a bust or a statue yet? I mean even X-23 has a bust for that silly sabertooth costume she was wearing!!!!! So why doesn't Cannonball have a statue?
NewMutant
01-08-2010, 02:18 PM
Which begs the question why he doesn't have a bust or a statue yet? I mean even X-23 has a bust for that silly sabertooth costume she was wearing!!!!! So why doesn't Cannonball have a statue?
It is a fair question. I think its because Cannonball has never been on a flagship X-Team. When he originally joined the X-Men the teams weren't really blue and gold anymore. And during the 90s the flagship memorable team is either the blue or, as I would say, the characters from The Animated Series. Then it was the X-Treme team, which was the B-Team to Morrison's New X-Men. then Carey's X-Men which was the B-Team to Whedon.
X-23 was given a push by Marvel. She can not only fall into the X-Men category but the newer Wolverine solo cateogry too. She is a female which there are less known and iconic characters of. But it is a bit odd.
NewMutant
02-15-2010, 09:37 AM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/63ff1002.jpg
Arachne
02-15-2010, 05:47 PM
Damn. I wish my license photo was that nice.
shavoxin
02-15-2010, 11:00 PM
Where is that from? Were the license picture and all also photoshopped there?
RickyD410
02-15-2010, 11:19 PM
Where is that from? Were the license picture and all also photoshopped there?
Haha, most likely. Its from the first arc on Uncanny after #500. Its from a scene where Karma, Cannonball, and Dani are chilling in a bar talking about their crazy lives.
Yogaflame
02-16-2010, 12:04 AM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/63ff1002.jpg
Wasn't Sam 18 when the New Mutants first got together? So its only been 3 years marvel time since 1982? Is Kitty still 17? :confused:
NewMutant
02-16-2010, 08:09 AM
Where is that from? Were the license picture and all also photoshopped there?
Haha, most likely. Its from the first arc on Uncanny after #500. Its from a scene where Karma, Cannonball, and Dani are chilling in a bar talking about their crazy lives.
Yes. Its from the Manifest Destiny/SFX arc. From that terrible start of a scene where the bartender thinks Sam is an underage hick... and that was Sam's response...
Wasn't Sam 18 when the New Mutants first got together? So its only been 3 years marvel time since 1982? Is Kitty still 17? :confused:
Sam is in his 20s. Mid-Twenties. Don't let stupid writers "saying" ages affect you. Why writers feel the need to state ages in comics when there is no real sense of time is beyond me.
ImmortalIronFist
02-16-2010, 09:00 AM
Wasn't Sam 18 when the New Mutants first got together? So its only been 3 years marvel time since 1982? Is Kitty still 17? :confused:
I thought he was more like 16, but it still wouldn't really make sense. The scene in the bar was great though.
Havok83
02-16-2010, 09:01 AM
I thought he was more like 16, but it still wouldn't really make sense. The scene in the bar was great though.
He was 17 when he joined. It hasnt been 3 years. Id say its been at least 7 years since the New Mutants were formed. Forget what Fraction wrote in that dumb scene in UXM. Sam is closer to 23-24
NewMutant
02-23-2010, 10:37 AM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/1070225-cannonballalt01.jpg
Ben Morse
04-02-2010, 07:25 AM
An essay by Ben Morse: http://thecoolkidztable.blogspot.com/2010/03/cannonball-upward-trajectory.html
NewMutant
04-02-2010, 08:18 AM
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=265257
He does rock... check out is Appreciation thread!
Ben Morse
04-02-2010, 08:39 AM
My essay on why Cannonball rocks: http://thecoolkidztable.blogspot.com/2010/03/cannonball-upward-trajectory.html
Pixie_Solanas
04-02-2010, 09:53 AM
Still not convinced.
An essay by Ben Morse: http://thecoolkidztable.blogspot.com/2010/03/cannonball-upward-trajectory.html
Great, great essay Ben! Fantastic. Cannoball is one of my favourite X-Men.
NewMutant
04-02-2010, 01:01 PM
My essay on why Cannonball rocks: http://thecoolkidztable.blogspot.com/2010/03/cannonball-upward-trajectory.html
I did enjoy your blog. And agreed with many of your points. I have found most of my favorite characters are characters, like Cannonball, who were allowed to have some growth.
teddyeatsyourface
04-02-2010, 01:14 PM
Couple of notable omitted costumes in the thread.
The Graduation uniform
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/110700-160734-cannonball_large.JPG (http://www.comicvine.com/160734-cannonball/105-110700/) Cobra Commander approves this uniform!
NewMutant
04-02-2010, 01:47 PM
Bachelo 90s Cannonball...
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/383686-107840-cannonball.jpg
Pixie_Solanas
04-02-2010, 01:50 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/1070225-cannonballalt01.jpg
Best i've seen of him yet. Cue the classic Vivienne Westwood "Cowboy" image.
pryde15
04-02-2010, 04:04 PM
Still not convinced.
You just don't like him because he isn't wearing killer heels. BIAS.
Washout
04-02-2010, 04:05 PM
You just don't like him because he isn't wearing killer heels. BIAS.
I think I might like him because he doesn't wear killer heels.
GambitXRemy
04-02-2010, 04:17 PM
Dani Moonstar Still rocks Harder Nuff Said!!!!
The Big G
04-02-2010, 04:24 PM
My Dad's great-grandpa lived in Kentucky so yeah Cannoball's legit
HeroxMatt2.0
04-02-2010, 04:31 PM
Cannonball is awesome. `Nuff said.
NewMutant
04-02-2010, 04:36 PM
The appreciation thread for cannonball will never take off... lol
fail thread.
Frank101
04-19-2010, 02:36 PM
does anyone have any pic examples of cannonball using his other abilities other than his thrust to fly?
RiptideX
06-15-2010, 07:12 AM
animated gif cannonball:
http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/Cannonball3.gif
NewMutant
06-15-2010, 08:14 AM
animated gif cannonball:
http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/Cannonball3.gif
That is awesome.
I found this X-Men group shot online. Not sure the artist, but I love it. And Cannonball is front and center!
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/1255734-xmen_by_ruddiger.jpg
RiptideX
06-15-2010, 08:41 AM
that's a lovely team shot I really dig the colors and the pencils were did you find it? :smile:
DevilishRogue
06-15-2010, 10:14 PM
Hello everyone! Sam has always been my favorite of the New Mutants. Here is scans of Sam with Bobby! It us from Uncanny 332 by Lobdell/Mad ^^
[img=http://img256.imagevenue.com/loc571/th_40313_UncannyX_Men332BobbySam2_122_571lo.jpg] (http://img256.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=40313_UncannyX_Men332BobbySam2_122_5 71lo.jpg)
[img=http://img266.imagevenue.com/loc198/th_40024_UncannyX_Men332BobbySam_122_198lo.jpg] (http://img266.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=40024_UncannyX_Men332BobbySam_122_19 8lo.jpg)
That is a gorgeous team shot! I'm tempted to use it as my desktop! ^^
Havok83
07-12-2010, 05:29 PM
Haha, check this out
http://marvel.com/videos/1159.msh~colon~_what_the--%3f~excl~_winter_games~colon~_day_9
Oh here's a pic I love:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd180/vittoriacolona/Cannonball10.jpg
I think it sums him up perfectly.
Note: Since uploads from Photobucket seems to disapear. You can find the shot on this link. (http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=444928&GSub=69831)
NewMutant
07-13-2010, 12:01 AM
that's a lovely team shot I really dig the colors and the pencils were did you find it? :smile:
ComicVine
Hello everyone! Sam has always been my favorite of the New Mutants. Here is scans of Sam with Bobby! It us from Uncanny 332 by Lobdell/Mad ^^
[img=http://img256.imagevenue.com/loc571/th_40313_UncannyX_Men332BobbySam2_122_571lo.jpg] (http://img256.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=40313_UncannyX_Men332BobbySam2_122_5 71lo.jpg)
[img=http://img266.imagevenue.com/loc198/th_40024_UncannyX_Men332BobbySam_122_198lo.jpg] (http://img266.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=40024_UncannyX_Men332BobbySam_122_19 8lo.jpg)
That is a gorgeous team shot! I'm tempted to use it as my desktop! ^^
Its funny how long they've actually had the bromance going on. There is even a shot of them together in X-Cutioners Song in one of the Jae Lee issues.
Justin K.
07-13-2010, 12:04 AM
Oh here's a pic I love:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd180/vittoriacolona/Cannonball10.jpg
Not a fan of the weird boots...
NewMutant
09-13-2010, 12:39 PM
Nudie Sam...
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/1.jpg
I would love to see more of this team...
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/1198966-40f6b23b7bacba61574722ebd6e11e48.jpg
IN-A-SYNCH
09-13-2010, 01:21 PM
Remember when Sam and Wolvie had a race?
And then Juggernaut was at the bar and Sam smashed right into him,
Juggs didnt feel a thing, that was a funny moment with Sam.
NewMutant
09-13-2010, 02:18 PM
Remember when Sam and Wolvie had a race?
And then Juggernaut was at the bar and Sam smashed right into him,
Juggs didnt feel a thing, that was a funny moment with Sam.
I loved that issue. And the bartender was like I don't think he is 21. And Wolverine says "he is because I say he is."
countryfan2004
09-13-2010, 02:19 PM
I would love to see more of this team...
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/1198966-40f6b23b7bacba61574722ebd6e11e48.jpg
That WAS an awesome team, but unfortunately Trance did nothing...NOTHING in the entire mini! Seriously. Nothing.
IN-A-SYNCH
09-14-2010, 01:15 PM
I loved that issue. And the bartender was like I don't think he is 21. And Wolverine says "he is because I say he is."
lmao!!
Yeah and Sam goes "he is so old too" (referrin to Sabretooth)
Logan replies hey he aint that old!!!!
Necrosheep
09-14-2010, 09:45 PM
Possible Spoiler:
In the Preview of New Mutants 19, Marvel adumbrates that it is possible that (maybe) one of the New Mutants will fall in battle, ok it´s Marvel and they are very lurid, but I really fear, that they want to kill Cannonball. What do you think? how supposable is that "guess"?
Marvel take your hands off Sam and put him under nature protection, because he´s one of my absolute faves! ;)
NewMutant
09-14-2010, 10:30 PM
Possible Spoiler:
In the Preview of New Mutants 19, Marvel adumbrates that it is possible that (maybe) one of the New Mutants will fall in battle, ok it´s Marvel and they are very lurid, but I really fear, that they want to kill Cannonball. What do you think? how supposable is that "guess"?
Marvel take your hands off Sam and put him under nature protection, because he´s one of my absolute faves! ;)
It is certainly possible. And they have been playing up the Sam is not the only one capable of leading thing. I hope not. I need more Sam.
Sam fans have been lucky. He hasn't ever really been stuck in limbo since his debut. Maybe briefly between the end of X-Force and his joining X-Treme but that was about a year and half at most and he had a cameo in New X-Men in between.
IF New Mutants isn't being cancelled it seems odd to kill off their most well know/popular character.
RuaDragon
09-15-2010, 03:34 AM
Remember when Sam and Wolvie had a race?
And then Juggernaut was at the bar and Sam smashed right into him,
Juggs didnt feel a thing, that was a funny moment with Sam.
Oh man, I have to read that. What issue is it in?
NewMutant
09-15-2010, 10:07 AM
Oh man, I have to read that. What issue is it in?
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/ww.jpg
Another great issue is Sam camping with Wolverine and Storm...
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/w.jpg
NewMutant
09-17-2010, 08:28 AM
So I updated Cannonball's bio on the first page.
I added the bio page from the recent handbook/origin one shot too. Which was interesting, Carey wrote it, but apparently Sam is the eldest of 10 siblings now and not 7?
Skaddix
09-17-2010, 08:30 AM
So I updated Cannonball's bio on the first page.
I added the bio page from the recent handbook/origin one shot too. Which was interesting, Carey wrote it, but apparently Sam is the eldest of 10 siblings now and not 7?
The Guthries are a neverending spawn.
countryfan2004
09-17-2010, 08:56 AM
It is certainly possible. And they have been playing up the Sam is not the only one capable of leading thing. I hope not. I need more Sam.
Sam fans have been lucky. He hasn't ever really been stuck in limbo since his debut. Maybe briefly between the end of X-Force and his joining X-Treme but that was about a year and half at most and he had a cameo in New X-Men in between.
IF New Mutants isn't being cancelled it seems odd to kill off their most well know/popular character.
I doubt they'd kill C-Ball. After all, Carey would be writing him more if he knew Sam would die. Notice he write Nightcrawler into his Necrosha arc? Right before Kurt dies...And Carey really likes Sam too, so he'd most definitely use him up before he dies.
4sake
09-17-2010, 02:32 PM
So I updated Cannonball's bio on the first page.
I added the bio page from the recent handbook/origin one shot too. Which was interesting, Carey wrote it, but apparently Sam is the eldest of 10 siblings now and not 7?
Yeah lol.. If read Endangered Species issues where Beast & Dark Beast go to the Guthrie house there were 8 or 9 kids there...
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/article/showquestion.asp?faq=8&fldAuto=79
Theirs :
Husk
Elizabeth Guthrie -Amazon in AoA, & who maybe older than Husk (Husk has been said to be older at a few point & Liz has said to be older than Husk at other points)
Icarus
Joelle Guthrie (the jealous one)
Jeb Guthrie (deprowered)
Melody/Aero (deprowered)
Lewis Guthrie (I think the one dark best got to drink that chemical that time. )
Chrissy (who maybe Lewis twin sister)
A Unnamed sister I think
NewMutant
09-17-2010, 03:17 PM
I doubt they'd kill C-Ball. After all, Carey would be writing him more if he knew Sam would die. Notice he write Nightcrawler into his Necrosha arc? Right before Kurt dies...And Carey really likes Sam too, so he'd most definitely use him up before he dies.
Potentially true. I sort of doubt it too. But it would certainly shake up the NM. But that would be like them having X-Men without Wolverine. lol.
Yeah lol.. If read Endangered Species issues where Beast & Dark Beast go to the Guthrie house there were 8 or 9 kids there...
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/article/showquestion.asp?faq=8&fldAuto=79
Theirs :
Husk
Elizabeth Guthrie -Amazon in AoA, & who maybe older than Husk (Husk has been said to be older at a few point & Liz has said to be older than Husk at other points)
Icarus
Joelle Guthrie (the jealous one)
Jeb Guthrie (deprowered)
Melody/Aero (deprowered)
Lewis Guthrie (I think the one dark best got to drink that chemical that time. )
Chrissy (who maybe Lewis twin sister)
A Unnamed sister I think
Didn't he have twin siblings too?
4sake
09-17-2010, 03:22 PM
Potentially true. I sort of doubt it too. But it would certainly shake up the NM. But that would be like them having X-Men without Wolverine. lol.
Didn't he have twin siblings too?
Yeah his twin siblings are Lewis & Chrissy (Who Carey name in Endangered Species) or Lewis & Unnamed Sister (who also was shown at the table in Endangered Species)
NewMutant
09-17-2010, 03:24 PM
Yeah his twin siblings are Lewis & Chrissy (Who Carey name in Endangered Species) or Lewis & Unnamed Sister (who also was shown at the table in Endangered Species)
Duh, you put that in there. I'm a moron. Thanks!
Sam now has step siblings too right cause of She Lies with the Angels.
4sake
09-17-2010, 04:18 PM
Duh, you put that in there. I'm a moron. Thanks!
Sam now has step siblings too right cause of She Lies with the Angels.
Yeah.. I think he does.. I think is his step or & adopted brother Ray Jr...
countryfan2004
09-17-2010, 04:51 PM
And I think Ray Jr. is the only son of Ray, right? So it's just one more added ot the family. It's nothing for Lucinda.
RuaDragon
09-17-2010, 06:58 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/ww.jpg
Another great issue is Sam camping with Wolverine and Storm...
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/w.jpg
Sweet, thanks!
Regino
12-12-2010, 09:51 PM
Cannonball is only cool when he's hanging out w/ Cable or Wolverine. Even then, he always gets beat up. Has he ever actually beat anyone? Bishop killed him for crying out loud.
Necrosheep
12-12-2010, 10:28 PM
Cannonball is awsome! Loved the moment, when he battled a poker match against Gambit.
NewMutant
12-12-2010, 10:29 PM
Cannonball is only cool when he's hanging out w/ Cable or Wolverine. Even then, he always gets beat up. Has he ever actually beat anyone? Bishop killed him for crying out loud.
Cannonball is cool leading X-Force and bromancing with Iceman.
MODs can we get this thread merged into Cannonball Appreciation thread?
Skaddix
12-12-2010, 11:14 PM
Cannonball is only cool when he's hanging out w/ Cable or Wolverine. Even then, he always gets beat up. Has he ever actually beat anyone? Bishop killed him for crying out loud.
actually competently written Bishop should be pretty darn good at killing.
Valeria Kementari
12-12-2010, 11:16 PM
CAnnonWho?????
DevilishRogue
12-12-2010, 11:43 PM
Sam beat purple mohawk man -- Gladiator!
NewMutant
12-16-2010, 01:55 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/Sam.jpg
I love OC's beefy Cannonball from Age of X, yum!
NewMutant
01-03-2011, 08:33 AM
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=351202&page=9
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/c-1.jpg
GambitXRemy
01-14-2011, 01:09 PM
with age of x previews, it does seem like sam is the perfect leader for the x-men in the future, but theres no doubt in my mind that dani is the better leader and also will cyclops ever step down or be forced to step down
with age of x previews, it does seem like sam is the perfect leader for the x-men in the future, but theres no doubt in my mind that dani is the better leader and also will cyclops ever step down or be forced to step down
Why do you consider Dani to be a better leader? Because of her portrayal by Zeb Wells in New Mutants? For the record Wells writes Cannonball as an idiot and conveniently ignores all the character development that CB went through over the years. To me Moonstar is nothing but a neurotic shrew.
NewMutant
01-14-2011, 02:32 PM
with age of x previews, it does seem like sam is the perfect leader for the x-men in the future, but theres no doubt in my mind that dani is the better leader and also will cyclops ever step down or be forced to step down
Then maybe post in the Dani Moonstar thread?
Why do you consider Dani to be a better leader? Because of her portrayal by Zeb Wells in New Mutants? For the record Wells writes Cannonball as an idiot and conveniently ignores all the character development that CB went through over the years. To me Moonstar is nothing but a neurotic shrew.
I like them both. I think they were planned to be the Cyclops and Storm of next generation. Except this generations Cyclops(Cannonball) is cooler than its Storm(Moonstar). :P
DevilishRogue
01-14-2011, 02:37 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/Sam.jpg
I love OC's beefy Cannonball from Age of X, yum!
MMmmmMmm. Gimme some o' dat.
NewMutant
04-11-2011, 09:24 AM
How is everyone enjoying Sam in Age of X?
baltiroo
04-11-2011, 09:26 AM
How is everyone enjoying Sam in Age of X?
I want more of him. I think that he's been very interesting and a logical direction his 616 counterpart (although I guess they are one and the same) should take (being the leader I mean).
NewMutant
04-11-2011, 02:43 PM
I want more of him. I think that he's been very interesting and a logical direction his 616 counterpart (although I guess they are one and the same) should take (being the leader I mean).
I agree. Age of X has been fun but it has been so Rogue focused. When it comes to alternate worlds you wanna see lot more characters in more than just cameos. But I have enjoyed Sam incharge a lot. I hope he continues post AoX. I wish Carey was still writing him.
countryfan2004
04-11-2011, 03:20 PM
I love, love, love him in it. I love that he stands up to Basilisk, but he is currently being stubborn, as always, in not listening to Basilisk. It'd be nice if he'd have been hooking up with Legacy in this and him helping Legacy, rather than Gambit.
4sake
04-11-2011, 03:21 PM
How is everyone enjoying Sam in Age of X?
Its the best he's been written about 2 years (including Hell bound.. which was good, but AOX is better imo).. :cool:
Its the best he's been written about 2 years (including Hell bound.. which was good, but AOX is better imo).. :cool:
I agree with this. I hope that the new writers on the NM take a page from this characterisation in AoX and use it in that book.
NewMutant
04-11-2011, 04:27 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/1616526-prv7505_pg3.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/1615706-1294781469.jpg
the Hornet
04-11-2011, 08:16 PM
I agree with this. I hope that the new writers on the NM take a page from this characterisation in AoX and use it in that book.
Yeah and if they don't, please give him back to Mike Carey. A little fed up of them using him as a way to boost the other characters by writing him as an incompetent person.
witchboy
04-11-2011, 08:22 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/1616526-prv7505_pg3.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/1615706-1294781469.jpg
I LOVE the angle of that last picture :)
NewMutant
04-13-2011, 08:25 AM
1) Favorite uniform?
2) Siblings: Husk or Icarus?
3) Bromance: Sunspot or Iceman?
4) Girlfriend: Lila or Boom Boom?
5) Team: New Mutants or X-Men?
6) Mentor: Cable or Wolverine?
7) Favorite Cannonball writer?
8) Favorite Cannonball artist?
9) Favorite alternate reality version?
10) Favorite Cannonball moment?
yanapryde
04-13-2011, 08:31 AM
1) Favorite uniform? AoX, followed by Super Novas with the C emblem
2) Siblings: Husk
3) Bromance: Iceman
4) Girlfriend: if i HAD to pick...i suppose Boom Boom.
5) Team: New Mutants ARE X-Men.
6) Mentor: Cable
7) Favorite Cannonball writer? professor Carey, of course
8) Favorite Cannonball artist? Clay Mann followed by Bachalo
9) Favorite alternate reality version? AoX certainly
10) Favorite Cannonball moment? owning Gambit in Limbo during SC
countryfan2004
04-13-2011, 10:44 AM
1) Favorite uniform? AoX
2) Siblings: Husk
3) Bromance: Iceman
4) Girlfriend: Iceman (But if I had to pick...Boom Boom)
5) Team: X-Men
6) Mentor: Cable
7) Favorite Cannonball writer? Carey
8) Favorite Cannonball artist? Mann
9) Favorite alternate reality version? AoX OR Mutant X (when he was super fat)
10) Favorite Cannonball moment? When he fought Gladiator or when he escaped the Marauders and wanted to go back for Iceman...there's a few others, but those spring to mind first
baltiroo
04-13-2011, 10:51 AM
1) Favorite uniform? First X-Force costume OR the C emblem costume
2) Siblings: Husk or Icarus? Husk
3) Bromance: Sunspot or Iceman? Hard to choose between them, but I'll pick Sunspot
4) Girlfriend: Lila or Boom Boom? Lila
5) Team: New Mutants or X-Men? X-Men
6) Mentor: Cable or Wolverine? Cable
7) Favorite Cannonball writer? Carey or Claremont
8) Favorite Cannonball artist? Bachalo
9) Favorite alternate reality version? AoX
10) Favorite Cannonball moment? Versus Gladiator
yanapryde
04-13-2011, 10:55 AM
I would very much like to see Husk, Sam's sister, take on a new beau.
Nomination: Iceman.
He's far more age appropriate, and it would be funny since he gave Angel a hard time about it back when Warren was eyeing her.
The potential for 'Hey that's my SISTER' or 'You're my best buddy, of course I support this' is fun.
I'd also like to see these two (iceman and husk) do a fair share of cameo/guest starring in the NM title.
Skaddix
04-13-2011, 10:59 AM
1) Favorite uniform? Age of X
2) Siblings: Husk or Icarus? Husk
3) Bromance: Sunspot or Iceman? Sunspot
4) Girlfriend: Lila or Boom Boom? Boom Boom
5) Team: New Mutants or X-Men? X-men but as off now New Mutants, no way he gets good development on Uncanny or X-men right now. Maybe Legacy but right now its team former villain and shady people.
6) Mentor: Cable or Wolverine? Wolverine
7) Favorite Cannonball writer? Carey
8) Favorite Cannonball artist? Mann
9) Favorite alternate reality version? AoX
10) Favorite Cannonball moment? Gladiator Fight was awesome
Necrosheep
04-13-2011, 11:51 AM
1) Favorite uniform? the one with the bi "C"s
2) Siblings: Icarus?
3) Bromance: Iceman?
4) Girlfriend: Boom Boom?
5) Team: X-Force ;p
6) Mentor: Cable
7) Favorite Cannonball writer? Mike Carey
8) Favorite Cannonball artist? Humberto Ramos
9) Favorite alternate reality version? uhm Age of X?
10) Favorite Cannonball moment? The Moment he did escape from Sinister and the Marauders
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NewMutant
04-13-2011, 04:11 PM
9) Favorite alternate reality version? AoX OR Mutant X (when he was super fat)
Fat? He is just big boned... ;)
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/mxc.jpg
I would very much like to see Husk, Sam's sister, take on a new beau.
Nomination: Iceman.
He's far more age appropriate, and it would be funny since he gave Angel a hard time about it back when Warren was eyeing her.
The potential for 'Hey that's my SISTER' or 'You're my best buddy, of course I support this' is fun.
I'd also like to see these two (iceman and husk) do a fair share of cameo/guest starring in the NM title.
Well I am a Iceman/Northstar supporter. But the only female I can see him being with is Husk. It would add great dynamic with Sam.
4) Girlfriend: Iceman (But if I had to pick...Boom Boom)
I never saw the Iceman/Cannonball pairing or Iceman/Beast for that matter. They are so clearly friends in my head. Cannonball and Iceman like defination bromance.
I feel like Sunspot is the best friend from high school friend that you have been through enough together that you are always best friends. But Iceman is his college best friend who he is ultimately closer with and has more in common.
the Hornet
04-13-2011, 05:29 PM
Plus Tabitha cheated on Sam with Berto which to me cancels any BFF out. they can still be friends but no longer best friends. That should be Iceman now.
nontoxic
04-13-2011, 05:35 PM
1) Favorite uniform? I hated the C's but I loved the colours of the uniform from Carey's run.
2) Siblings: Husk or Icarus? Husk
3) Bromance: Sunspot or Iceman? Sunspot
4) Girlfriend: Lila or Boom Boom? Neither, they're both trashy.
5) Team: New Mutants or X-Men? New Mutants are X-Men. Still, I like him best with his old friends.
6) Mentor: Cable or Wolverine? Cable by far.
7) Favorite Cannonball writer? FabNic
8) Favorite Cannonball artist? Hm. I like the guy/gal who drew his Divided We Stand story, but I'm also partial to Leonard Kirk.
9) Favorite alternate reality version? Meh, none have really impressed me wildly.
10) Favorite Cannonball moment? Bitch slapping the Professor or when him and Roberto bought Mojo a hooker in that Strange Tales story.
countryfan2004
04-13-2011, 07:07 PM
Well I am a Iceman/Northstar supporter. But the only female I can see him being with is Husk. It would add great dynamic with Sam.
Right?! I'm an avid supporter of Iceman/Husk. Why is this in the Sam thread and not the HUSK thread I created, hmmmm, people? But I guess it does have to deal with Sam.
I should probably collect Strange Tales to see the Cannonball/Sunspot story.
4sake
04-13-2011, 07:49 PM
1) Favorite uniform?
2) Siblings: Husk or Icarus?
3) Bromance: Sunspot or Iceman?
4) Girlfriend: Lila or Boom Boom?
5) Team: New Mutants or X-Men?
6) Mentor: Cable or Wolverine?
7) Favorite Cannonball writer?
8) Favorite Cannonball artist?
9) Favorite alternate reality version?
10) Favorite Cannonball moment?
1. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/21117/415773-Picture 1_large.png (http://www.comicvine.com/picture-1/105-415773/) The one with the yellow ''C''s
2.Husk
3.Iceman
4.I'd prefer some new, but between those to Boom Boom
5.X-Men
6.Cable
7.Mike Carey
8.Humberto Ramos
9.AOX
10.Leading in AOX
the Hornet
04-14-2011, 12:19 AM
1) Favorite uniform? Greg Capullo's X-Force costume.
2) Siblings: Husk.
3) Bromance: Iceman.
4) Girlfriend: Lila but really potentially Rogue.
5) Team: X-Force + Rogue-Men tie.
6) Mentor: Cable
7) Favorite Cannonball writer? Mike Carey + Fabe tie.
8) Favorite Cannonball artist? Geg Capullo.
9) Favorite alternate reality version? Age of X?
10) Favorite Cannonball moment? Standing up to Prof X. close second is knocking out Wolverine and telling Storm off for picking on Marrow.
NewMutant
04-14-2011, 08:53 AM
Right?! I'm an avid supporter of Iceman/Husk. Why is this in the Sam thread and not the HUSK thread I created, hmmmm, people? But I guess it does have to deal with Sam.
I should probably collect Strange Tales to see the Cannonball/Sunspot story.
It was mentioned in the Husk page as well.
I wish they would release the Cannonball/Sunspot story in a New Mutants tpb as additional material.
fortyseven
04-14-2011, 09:30 AM
1) Favorite uniform? Black outfit with white C on chest and shoulders.
2) Siblings: Husk or Icarus? Husk.
3) Bromance: Sunspot or Iceman? Iceman.
4) Girlfriend: Lila or Boom Boom? (almost) Marrow.
5) Team: New Mutants or X-Men? X-Men.
6) Mentor: Cable or Wolverine? Wolverine.
7) Favorite Cannonball writer? Mike Carey, Joe Kelly, Scott Lobdell
8) Favorite Cannonball artist? Bachalo, Pacheco, Clay Mann, Joe Madureira
9) Favorite alternate reality version? Age of X.
10) Favorite Cannonball moment? Gladiator Fight, saving Marrow from Savage Wolverine, telling off Storm etc etc etc
NewMutant
04-21-2011, 09:08 AM
Hey Sam fans! Vote for Sam/Bobby, Sam/Berto, Sam/Logan, Sam/Cable in the X-Duo Countdown!
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=366142
NewMutant
04-21-2011, 04:22 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g134/drew7642/cannonballevolution.jpg
tunasammiches
04-21-2011, 04:31 PM
I LOVE the angle of that last picture :)
haha me too. I think the "push" he's referring to is in his pants.
JValentine
04-21-2011, 07:03 PM
1) Favorite uniform? 1) Age of 2) Carey's Adjective X-Men costume.
2) Siblings: Husk or Icarus? Husk. (Icarus was really, really lame)
3) Bromance: Sunspot or Iceman? Iceman.
4) Girlfriend: Lila or Boom Boom? Boom Boom (would prefer Rogue).
5) Team: New Mutants or X-Men? X-Men (Carey's Adjective-less).
6) Mentor: Cable or Wolverine? Cable (or Cyclops).
7) Favorite Cannonball writer? Carey.
8) Favorite Cannonball artist? Mann.
9) Favorite alternate reality version? AoX.
10) Favorite Cannonball moment? Gladiator fight, trashing Serafina during Children of the Vault/Supernovas, other moments from Carey's Adjectiveless X-Men, Iceman bromance, Gambit beat-down in Second Coming: Hellbound (spec. comment to Remy about Rogue), leading X-Men on field in AoX etc.
CannonballX
04-22-2011, 05:54 AM
1) Favorite uniform? Age of X
2) Siblings: Husk or Icarus? Husk
3) Bromance: Sunspot or Iceman? Sunspot
4) Girlfriend: Lila or Boom Boom? Boom Boom
5) Team: New Mutants or X-Men? X-Men (Carey's Adjective-less).
6) Mentor: Cable or Wolverine? Cable
7) Favorite Cannonball writer? Carey.
8) Favorite Cannonball artist? Bachalo.
9) Favorite alternate reality version? AoX.
10) Favorite Cannonball moment? Saving Marrow from wolverine, whenever he tried to hit juggernaught, vs gladiator, death from above
GambitXRemy
04-22-2011, 10:43 AM
sam needs to stop being emo
NewMutant
04-22-2011, 11:25 AM
sam needs to stop being emo
He would have to start first.
GambitXRemy
04-22-2011, 12:01 PM
He would have to start first.
Did you read the end of fall of the new mutants.... nuff said
NewMutant
04-22-2011, 12:44 PM
Did you read the end of fall of the new mutants.... nuff said
So one issue where he is upset about killing qualifies as emo?
GambitXRemy
04-22-2011, 02:02 PM
So one issue where he is upset about killing qualifies as emo?
there new mutants 25 preview pages where sam is in he's bed being emo... nuff said you should check it out
NewMutant
04-22-2011, 06:00 PM
there new mutants 25 preview pages where sam is in he's bed being emo... nuff said you should check it out
My point still stands. And added nuff said doesn't make your case any stronger. lol.
GambitXRemy
04-22-2011, 06:53 PM
My point still stands. And added nuff said doesn't make your case any stronger. lol.
your points pretty weak did you even read fall of the new mutants or see the preveiws
NewMutant
04-22-2011, 06:54 PM
your points pretty weak did you even read fall of the new mutants or see the preveiws
Yes and yes. nuff said.
GambitXRemy
04-22-2011, 06:57 PM
Yes and yes. nuff said.
okay sam's emo he killed people nuff said!!!
NewMutant
04-22-2011, 07:01 PM
okay sam's emo he killed people nuff said!!!
That is like saying Sam's hippie he killed people. Sam's goth he killed people. etc.
Kerukun878
04-22-2011, 07:01 PM
Sam isn't emo, he's depressed. You'd be depressed too.
NewMutant
04-22-2011, 07:02 PM
Sam isn't emo, he's depressed. You'd be depressed too.
Exactly.
However,GambitXRemy, might enjoy killing people. We just don't know.
nuff said.
jk. ;)
GambitXRemy
04-22-2011, 07:07 PM
Sam isn't emo, he's depressed. You'd be depressed too.
Sam's depressed
sad or depressed is being emotional
Kerukun878
04-22-2011, 07:08 PM
Sam's depressed
sad or depressed is being emotional Yes, but not on the scale of being "emo". He's not suicidal for apparently no reason at all, mkay?
NewMutant
04-22-2011, 07:12 PM
Yes, but not on the scale of being "emo". He's not suicidal for apparently no reason at all, mkay?
Exactly. "Emo" is usually used to describe a type of person. Not someone has feelings over a specific event, which his emotional state will be temporary. Otherwise everyone everywhere is emo.
CannonballX
04-23-2011, 02:25 AM
I'd be emo too if I got constantly written the wrong by every writer except 1 lol.... just seems to me like he is there to look stupid and put over the writers favourite aka moonstar not that i have a problem with her btw
CannonballX
04-25-2011, 04:36 AM
any good cannonball fb groups? or decent fan pages?
countryfan2004
04-25-2011, 05:36 AM
CannonballX, where did you get your avatar? I want to see it bigger! (That's what she said!)
Edit: Now that I look at it, is it actually Cannonball?
CannonballX
04-25-2011, 06:03 AM
yeah its Cannonball and Mockingbird from an issue of what if about the skrull invasion if i remember correctly :)
NewMutant
04-28-2011, 02:17 PM
Marvel.com: Would you call the beginning of this issue one of Cannonball’s finest moments in Age of X? What does your handling of Sam throughout say of the esteem in which you hold the character and his position within the X-Men hierarchy?
Mike Carey: I think we see him doing what he’s done every day for three years—or a week, if you prefer. He steps up to the plate and does what has to be done to ensure the survival of the people he’s responsible for. So it’s all of a piece, really, with his refusal to leave the battle lines in chapter five. Back then, he didn’t have any proof that the threat of the Human Coalition had just gone away, so he stood his ground and held the line he’d been told to hold. Now, the situation has changed out of all recognition but he’s still the field commander and he gets right down to the job. He commands.
I have a huge respect for Sam, and for his leadership skills. I think—given what he knew, and the responsibilities that were on him—he made the right call in both of those instances.
http://marvel.com/news/story/15768/age_of_x_assessment_chapter_6
Werehunter
04-28-2011, 03:26 PM
While I loved Sam in the recent New Mutants, I would have done things slightly different. Since Sam was the only one that didn't follow Scott, I would have started the issue with Sam trying to hold back the assault solo, while at the same time issuing orders for where people needed to get to. Instead of being taken down half way through the book, I would have done it page four. Would have kept the Rouge/Sam scene but at the end Rouge takes over and starts issuing orders having gained the knowledge of what needed to be done from Sam along with his powers.
That said, Sam still kicked ass anways.
NewMutant
05-12-2011, 04:25 PM
Does anyone have a scan from X-Men 57 of Iceman and Cannonball watching TV together? It is draw by Andy Kubert and its the issue post Onslaught where Val homes to arrest Xavier. Let me know!
the Hornet
05-13-2011, 11:07 PM
Okay, thanks to the pass couple of years of events in Sam's life, he is now a broken man lacking self-confidence and optimism. He is off the New Mutants team. Where do you think he should appear in to heal and rebuild his life?
1. Sidekick/partner to Wolverine.
2. Go on a road trip with Iceman in a new buddy book.
3. Get a job with Madrox so that he can be with his old X-Force buddies.
4. Join Carey's new team
countryfan2004
05-14-2011, 07:36 AM
Okay, thanks to the pass couple of years of events in Sam's life, he is now a broken man lacking self-confidence and optimism. He is off the New Mutants team. Where do you think he should appear in to heal and rebuild his life?
1. Sidekick/partner to Wolverine.
2. Go on a road trip with Iceman in a new buddy book.
3. Get a job with Madrox so that he can be with his old X-Force buddies.
4. Join Carey's new team
I love it. I like where Sam's at in his life. They took him somewhere. I think he might actually be on the verge of depression. I really love 2 and 4, although his being on X-Factor could cause some great humor without him intentionally being funny. And I can't see him being a sidekick/partner to Wolverine. I want him always to be on Carey's team...with Rogue, Iceman, and Husk.
NewMutant
05-14-2011, 11:01 AM
Okay, thanks to the pass couple of years of events in Sam's life, he is now a broken man lacking self-confidence and optimism. He is off the New Mutants team. Where do you think he should appear in to heal and rebuild his life?
1. Sidekick/partner to Wolverine.
2. Go on a road trip with Iceman in a new buddy book.
3. Get a job with Madrox so that he can be with his old X-Force buddies.
4. Join Carey's new team
I like all these ideas. I don't know if he would fit in with X-Factor, but PAD could make it work.
Personally I think they are letting some of this stuff get to him a little too much. But I think Cannonball/Iceman mini would be a good way to lift his spirits.
Also, not sure I'm feeling this Moonstar/Cannonball thing.
I love it. I like where Sam's at in his life. They took him somewhere. I think he might actually be on the verge of depression. I really love 2 and 4, although his being on X-Factor could cause some great humor without him intentionally being funny. And I can't see him being a sidekick/partner to Wolverine. I want him always to be on Carey's team...with Rogue, Iceman, and Husk.
He already was.
countryfan2004
05-15-2011, 12:02 PM
I know he was...sort of. But it's still weird.
NewMutant
05-15-2011, 12:03 PM
I know he was...sort of. But it's still weird.
He was, it was just brief. Why is it weird?
Justin K.
05-22-2011, 08:37 PM
Cannonball is currently a contestant in the battle forr the Ultimate Alpha male of the X-books:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=13168136&postcount=397
NewMutant
07-27-2011, 06:25 PM
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This is awesome.
A thread dedicated to the New Mutants first graduate...
Samuel Guthrie...CANNONBALL
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Sam Guthrie(Cannonball) was created by Chris Claremont and Bob McLeod
Samuel Zachary Guthrie generates a thermal/kinetic field around himself which renders him invulnerable and allows him to fly. Though it usually emanates from his lower body, he has been able to extend it outwards as a shield and channel it to his fists for added punch. The eldest of ten children from a Kentucky coal mining family, Cannonball is one of a few X-Men from a southern, rural background and has maintained the values of civility, hard work, and a strong commitment to his beliefs throughout his career as a superhero. When his father died in a mining accident Cannonball took role of the father figure till leaving to learn to control his powers. Several of his siblings are also mutants and have joined X-Men-related teams, including Paige (Husk), Jay (Icarus), and Melody.
Cannonball was a founding member of the X-Men's junior team, The New Mutants. Here he met his best friend Roberto DaCosta (Sunspot) and two long time girlfriends, Lila Cheney and later Tabitha Smith (Boom Boom/Boomer/Meltdown). The New Mutants were co-lead by Cannonball and teammate Dani Moonstar (Psyche/Mirage/Moonstar). Cannonball was with the New Mutants for historical X-Men battles such as: Mutant Massacre, Fall of the Mutants, Inferno, and X-Tinction Agenda. During his time with the New Mutants he was trained by Xavier and Magneto until Cable took control of the team turning them into a mutant rebel militia known as X-Force. The X-Men disapproved of X-Force's ways and once Cable was believed dead Cannonball took the role of leader and stood up to Xavier. Along with X-Force, Cannonball participated in famous X-Men battles: X-Cutioner's Song, Fatal Attraction, and Phalanx Covenant. Because of his dedication to Xavier's dream he joined the X-Men, becoming the first member of a secondary team to "graduate". During his initial run with the X-Men he became a sidekick to Wolverine - most notably battled the Dark Riders when they tried to replace Wolverine's adamantium, he defeated Gladiator on his own, helped fight against Onslaught, went undercover during Graydon Creed's Presidential Election with new pal Bobby Drake (Iceman), and fought Bastion during Operation: Zero Tolerance. His tenure was complicated by clashes with superiors and he eventually left to rejoin X-Force.
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Later Cannonball joined the X-Corps in Europe where he worked with some former New Mutants and X-Force teammates. After his teammate Darkstar was killed in battle Cannonball decided to leave X-Corp and rekindle with his ex-girlfriend Lila Cheney. Once he saw what was happening at Xaviers he could no longer stay away. He contacted Storm and she invited him to join her X.S.E. team where Cannonball would become an official government officer. Cannonball was no longer the X-Men newbie. He remained with the X.S.E. X-Men through Emma Frost and Cyclop's take over of the school. After getting injured in battle he left the team and briefly reunited with members of X-Force. Cannonball returned to the mansion to join Rogue's X-team. With a team full of mostly "former" villains Cannonball stuck close to his friend and former teammate Iceman. During their first battle Cannonball was mentally attacked by Serafina, a member of Children of the Vault. Cannonball hurt by her manipulation and blasted Serafina into their ship; leaving her lifeless body. After most of his team would betray the X-Men he would battle Mr. Sinister and the Marauders where he would sustain grave injuries but would recovery in time for the final battle of the Messiah Complex.
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Cannonball moved to San Fran with the rest of the X-Men, soon after he defended the city against a Secret Invasion by the Skrulls. He took the lead in reuniting with his original teammates the New Mutants to battle Xaviers son Legion. He has become a go to solider and leader in Cyclops army of X-Men. Cannonball assisted the X-Men in battling Norman Osborn and his Dark Avengers/X-Men and the creation of Utopia. Where he helps take care of all the farming needs on the mutant island. During Necrosha Selene resurrected the New Mutants former school rivals, the Hellions. Then the Second Coming of Hope had Cannonball lead a team of X-Men in a Hellbound mission to limbo. Bastion was defeat but not without the loss of Cannonball's former leader/mentor Cable. Sadly there is no rest for Cannonball as his team begins the Fall of the New Mutants. Cyclops believes Cannonball might be the next generations leader of the mutant race.
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Cannonball was a playable bonus character in X-Men Legends 2 for PSP. In the animation side he was featured in one episode of the 90s X-Men: The Animated Series. And had a small reoccuring role with the "New Mutants" in X-Men: Evolution. He did not appear in the first season (and only) of Wolverine and the X-Men. One day we can hope for a New Mutants animated series, X-Men animated series where he is a main character, and an appearance in a feature film!
Discuss the past/present/future and share photos of your hayseed turned hero... Cannonball!
Hi where is that Cannonball page bio from? thanks
My vintage animated Cannonball
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Peter F.
08-13-2011, 08:21 PM
Hi where is that Cannonball page bio from? thanks
The was a oneshot last year full of biography pages for a bunch of X-men.
Origins of Marvel Comics: X-men (http://marvel.com/comic_books/issue/31658/origins_of_marvel_comics_x-men_2010_1)
Here's (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=338120) a list of the X-men who got bios and which writers wrote them.
the Hornet
08-23-2011, 06:12 PM
Now that we have seen covers to all the team books and the key members, any new guesses to where Sam might end up ? I know the popular opinion is Wolverine and the X or NEw Mutants.
Me I am hoping its the former.
Would love to see Sam work with Wolverine again. Or has he become too much of a Cyclops man?
infernohara
08-23-2011, 06:19 PM
I'm beginning to think that Cannoball is the character that Wolverine has to drag in chains to his side. The Cyclops fanboy will be hard to convert, but if anyone can do it.....Wolverine can. The history he has in Xtreme X-men and the fact that I can actually see Wolvie giving Sam a shot at leadership without the pressure of Cyclops's acceptance.
the Hornet
08-23-2011, 06:26 PM
yeah I think Sam needs someone like Wolverine to get over his recent decline in New Mutants. It took a guy like Cable to toughen him up and get him out of his shell. So Wolverine may be the right choice.
NewMutant
08-23-2011, 08:18 PM
I don't think Cannonball siding with Wolverine is too crazy. Thus fair the rift has been about Idie killing, which Cannonball is currently struggling with. Therefore, siding with Wolverine is not much of stretch. But yes Wolverine/Cannonball duo is much needed.
NewMutant
09-22-2011, 04:04 PM
Figured I'd bump this with all these Cannonball thread going on lately.
the Hornet
09-22-2011, 04:29 PM
Any Cannonball sighting anywhere?
NewMutant
10-13-2011, 09:00 AM
I'm psyched Cannonball is joining Wolverine's team. I think having him and Husk on the same team would be great. I find them to be the most realistic siblings within X-Men at least.
NewMutant
10-17-2011, 08:45 AM
Cannonball is going to be in Legacy!
I for some reason wouldn't mind Cannonball started banging Rachel. He needs someone new.
Cannonball/Iceman bromance returns!
NewMutant
10-27-2011, 02:48 PM
I was kinda bummed that Sam didn't really make an appearance in Wolverine and the X-Men. Plus in the back he is listed as a JR staff member, when Rachel is a SR staff member.
ohsnapulon5000
10-27-2011, 03:51 PM
i think the decision to be Jr. Staff was his own. he seemed like he really needed time away to just chill after the events in the last NM arc. If anything he's going to be taking some time to bond with his sister as a priority.
countryfan2004
10-27-2011, 04:00 PM
i think the decision to be Jr. Staff was his own. he seemed like he really needed time away to just chill after the events in the last NM arc. If anything he's going to be taking some time to bond with his sister as a priority.
And I am super pumped for that. GUTHRIES UNITE!
baltiroo
11-01-2011, 08:31 AM
So glad that the Guthries will be in the same book. They are my favorite X-siblings so looking forward to seeing their interactions.
NewMutant
01-13-2012, 07:08 PM
How did everyone like Cannonball is Legacy this week?
countryfan2004
01-14-2012, 12:13 PM
Love! And I love his new costume! I can't wait to see what Gage does with him and Paige.
Gijimu
01-28-2012, 10:16 AM
To be honest I think Sam needs to step up and become the leader he is destined to be. I don't know if they ditched the idea but when Cable first came back there was records showing Cannonball surviving up into the 24th century. I know they
got rid of the immortal highlord story but Sam ended up getting shot 3 times in the chest and he made a miraculously recovery that Beast couldn't explain in later issues. He deserves the right to finally lead his own X-Men team instead of being a support member. They should bring Firestar to work at the JGSFHL as a guidance counselor and since they both showed interest in each other during the Firestar Mini 1-4. I can see them as a couple. I also have a pitch to possibly bring Cannonball back into the limelight for Marvel.
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