Sex Appeal from Marvel's Underage Mutants?

[Home made ectoplasm]

The Emma Frost pic is not relevant because she isn't under age :confused:

[worstblogever]

The Emma Frost pic is not relevant because she isn't under age :confused:

Be honest, JAU, we have no idea how old Emma Frost actually is. One issue she's 35, the next she's twenty-seven. She could be 4 this week.

We need all of our comic book characters to be carrying valid ID, just to be sure.

[x_goalkeeper]

Be honest, JAU, we have no idea how old Emma Frost actually is. One issue she's 35, the next she's twenty-seven. She could be 4 this week.

We need all of our comic book characters to be carrying valid ID, just to be sure.

but the picture is from her series.. and I think she was already in college in that story? I might be wrong :smile:

[Home made ectoplasm]

Be honest, JAU, we have no idea how old Emma Frost actually is. One issue she's 35, the next she's twenty-seven. She could be 4 this week.

We need all of our comic book characters to be carrying valid ID, just to be sure.

Emma Frost was never 27 you big liar

[worstblogever]

You make a lot of assumptions. You people make it out to be a bad thing that underage children should wear appropriate clothing. I don't know why Illyana fans enjoy seeing their character sexualized like this or why Kitty fans are ok with her throwing her snatch at Colossus when she's 15. No one seems to care that Pixie plays baseball in a swimsuit in freaking Wales of all places.

It's worse than you think. Kitty wasn't 15, she was 14. At 15, maybe 16 at most, she went on "holiday" in London with Alistaire Stewart. At 17, maybe 18 at most, she was getting railed by Pete Wisdom.

Kitty Pryde- The Old School Comic Book Lolita.

[That JonoGuy]

The Emma Frost pic is not relevant because she isn't under age :confused:

If you consider she is a teacher and teaches in such scantily clad outfits, it does kind of reflect badly. What kind of example is she setting.

[worstblogever]

If you consider she is a teacher and teaches in such scantily clad outfits, it does kind of reflect badly. What kind of example is she setting.

It helps keeps worms like Empath in line.

[timbox]

These are pretty sexy:

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2384/sc00392e09gg4.jpg

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3513/preferred.png

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/187987-177509-surge_super.jpg

[worstblogever]

More of the younger X-Men should follow Dust's example.

http://islamscifi.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/dust.jpg

[crimsondiablo]

okay. i can see where an older crowd finds this wrong, sure. comics though are based at a teenage crowd. we as adults may still read them, but the focus is the new younger generation coming up. so a 15 year old boy going to a comic shop to by comics will enjoy seeing the younger crowd look sexy. you say its okay for emma and psylocke and typhoid mary and every other dominatrix dressed 'woman' to wear such clothes because they are of age.... umm hello they are art on a page. we find it okay because we are of age to enjoy such images, us adults shouldnt be gawking at magik or pixie, yes. but the kids you so blindly neglect as a reading community want to see their favorites just as sexy as we see ours, so whats wrong with that?

[tlp0708]

If you consider she is a teacher and teaches in such scantily clad outfits, it does kind of reflect badly. What kind of example is she setting.

Agreed. She's setting a bad example. She's done things that are morally grey, at best.

[pariah-1972]

seems to have started with Kitty Pryde and her desire to give it up to Colossus when she was underageJust because she liked him and they were dating doesn't mean she would have given it up.
Kitty is a good jewish girl and would have waiting until marriage until that hussy Alien healer seduced Peter.

[Home made ectoplasm]

These are pretty sexy:

The first one is Layla showering in a concentration camp you fracking deviant!

[timbox]

The first one is Layla showering in a concentration camp you fracking deviant!

She's naked and underage. I thought that was the point of this thread?

[Home made ectoplasm]

She's naked and underage. I thought that was the point of this thread?

I guess. They should probably have had that scene take place at a mall or something though

[worstblogever]

I guess. They should probably have had that scene take place at a mall or something though

In the alternate future, only homo sapiens teenagers are allowed to bathe in the mall fountain. Homo superior teenagers are taken to special camps for their protection to do so.

[jarrod]

lol. Am I alone in thinking that underage Kitty Pryde was pretty much the opposite of "sexy"?

Rachel, Illyana, Rogue, Dani, Amara, Tab... sure, but Kitty? Srsly??

[Home made ectoplasm]

lol. Am I alone in thinking that underage Kitty Pryde was pretty much the opposite of "sexy"?

Rachel, Illyana, Rogue, Dani, Amara, Tab... sure, but Kitty? Srsly??

You're homosexual, what would you know about women?

[jarrod]

You're homosexual, what would you know about women?
Uhm, they usually make the best CBR posters?

But really, Kitty Pryde = sexy is something I just can;t fathom. Help me out here?

[MartinRedmond]

I am more worried about Marvel trying to sexualise old, gross people.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5bcfpMCxb6I/SSRDgTLVVqI/AAAAAAAADS4/ePfdjJuMYkI/s1600/BirthofMagnetoUncannyX-Men304.jpg

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/5946/blackwombbk4.jpg

The Blackwomb rawks.

Bret Blevins' art used to scare me as a kid, it sent my "stranger in a van" alarm off.

[DiamondHart]

Uhm, they usually make the best CBR posters?

But really, Kitty Pryde = sexy is something I just can;t fathom. Help me out here?

I don't see how someone who proclaims to be a huge Rachel fan would know what sexy is. The only thing sexy about Rachel Grey is when she leaves.

[DiamondHart]

Decency can mean just about anything you want it to mean. Frankly, imo, it's indecent for you to be making an issue of it. I very much blame this mentality on the fact many young adults, which imo begins around 16, aren't ready to lead mature lives. Society's misguided attempts to protect them has stunted their emotional and psychological growth.

Just because underage characters are showing skin doesn't mean adults watching it get any kind of thrill from it. Frankly, showing your disgust over it does show that your mind automatically goes there, which I find disturbing.

Please, don't try and put this back on me, the examples I sighted are so blatantly obvious you would have to Helen Keller not to notice it.

[pariah-1972]

I can't believe this thread hasn't been locked yet.

[Shyft]

I love the post on the first page saying "please dont post any pictures up". Made me laugh heartily at the ensuing results.

Down to the issue at hand.

Most of the time the underage girls arent doing anything sexual or provocative, so all the artists are doing is portraying younger girls wearing things younger girls are, in all honesty, likely to wear.

[DiamondHart]

I can't believe this thread hasn't been locked yet.

I'm sorry the topic of conversation is too much for you, maybe you could go into the threads that talk about if Iceman is gay or which character deserves their own VH1 show. It seems more suited to your level of interaction.

[pariah-1972]

I'm sorry the topic of conversation is too much for you, maybe you could go into the threads that talk about if Iceman is gay or which character deserves their own VH1 show. It seems more suited to your level of interaction.You'll notice that i haven't posted on any of those subjects.

[DiamondHart]

You'll notice that i haven't posted on any of those subjects.

No I didn't notice, does anyone notice you?

[pariah-1972]

No I didn't notice, does anyone notice you?You seem like someone who enjoys negative attention and that's why you constantly attack everyone.

[DiamondHart]

You seem like someone who enjoys negative attention and that's why you constantly attack everyone.

Sure, it has nothing to do with the attacks leaved against me. I find it hilarious someone named pariah criticizes me for craving negative attention.

[jarrod]

I don't see how someone who proclaims to be a huge Rachel fan would know what sexy is. The only thing sexy about Rachel Grey is when she leaves.
Say what?

http://cache.io9.com/assets/resources/2008/05/RACHEL_SUMMERS_by_stompboxx.jpg

...and topically, here's sexbomb Rachel at seventeen...

http://www.alandavis-comicart.com/images/Phoenix.jpg

[pariah-1972]

Sure, it has nothing to do with the attacks leaved against me. I find it hilarious someone named pariah criticizes me for craving negative attention.If you had any sense you wouldn't just assume that's what my name mean's when in actuality it is in reference to the comic book character.
I don't particularly enjoy negativity at all.

[AcesX1X]

You seem like someone who enjoys negative attention and that's why you constantly attack everyone.

maybe she is just taken aback as a human being at the alarming amount of support the counterpoint has gained (while at the same time not really providing any convincing reasons for the issue to exist).

[DiamondHart]

yea I'm sure there was a good reason to dress a 17 year old girl up in an S&M bondage outfit with spikes.

[Dagger]

yea I'm sure there was a good reason to dress a 17 year old girl up in an S&M bondage outfit with spikes.
She likes to display her camel toe.

[Shyft]

yea I'm sure there was a good reason to dress a 17 year old girl up in an S&M bondage outfit with spikes.

Purely out of interest, what difference does 12 months make in a girls social,moral and mental ability to decide she would like to try out S&M?

[DiamondHart]

maybe she is just taken aback as a human being at the alarming amount of support the counterpoint has gained (while at the same time not really providing any convincing reasons for the issue to exist).

Thank you for the intelligent insight.

[pariah-1972]

maybe she is just taken aback as a human being at the alarming amount of support the counterpoint has gained (while at the same time not really providing any good reasons for the issue to exist).Well if you want to start a thread discussing a topic it would behoove the person not to just attack everyone who has a difference of opinion.
especially when the issues and characters she cite's weren't all as bad they could have been.


The New Mutants were in Brazil and they all wore swimsuits that were appropriate and i don't think they looked all that sexual compared to what people normally wear down there.

[Shyft]

Well if you want to start a thread discussing a topic it would behoove the person not to just attack everyone who has a difference of opinion.
especially when the issues and characters she cite's weren't all as bad they could have been.


The New Mutants were in Brazil and they all wore swimsuits that were appropriate and i don't think they looked all that sexual compared to what people normally wear down there.

you're obviously just some sort of whore. Why couldnt they have been sat at home reading their bibles and weaving simple brown robes rather than on the beach in Brazil?

[AcesX1X]

would the argument be any different if franklin richards and julie power started traipsing around in these sorts of situations (with the intent on selling more material through physical suggestion?)

{{going off the counterpoint that "sex sells" re: illyana's bathing suits}}

[timbox]

I objectify Brazilians.

[DiamondHart]

you're obviously just some sort of whore. Why couldnt they have been sat at home reading their bibles and weaving simple brown robes rather than on the beach in Brazil?

That is not the alternative I have been suggesting. My whole point is why does it have to be a beach in Brazil (where it's been said they wear very skimpy outfits to begin with). Why write that knowing the subjects are underage children? Is it an excuse to just put them in tiny clothes and parade them around.

[darknessatnoon]

you're obviously just some sort of whore. Why couldnt they have been sat at home reading their bibles and weaving simple brown robes rather than on the beach in Brazil?

I am glad all the board psychopaths are getting a chance to bond via this thread.

[Novaya Havoc]

I objectify Brazilians.

The entire world does. You are not alone.

[Shyft]

That is not the alternative I have been suggesting. My whole point is why does it have to be a beach in Brazil (where it's been said they wear very skimpy outfits to begin with). Why write that knowing the subjects are underage children? Is it an excuse to just put them in tiny clothes and parade them around.

So if it was just male members of the cast running around in swim shorts or speedos, would that be wrong too?

[pariah-1972]

That is not the alternative I have been suggesting. My whole point is why does it have to be a beach in Brazil (where it's been said they wear very skimpy outfits to begin with). Why write that knowing the subjects are underage children? Is it an excuse to just put them in tiny clothes and parade them around.Bobby lives in Brazil they were on vacay there wantign to relax and have some downtime and being at the beach is fun especially when your a kid.

[Shyft]

I am glad all the board psychopaths are getting a chance to bond via this thread.

I've missed you too.

[jarrod]

yea I'm sure there was a good reason to dress a 17 year old girl up in an S&M bondage outfit with spikes.
Ask the slave's master, Ahab.


According to Davis, Claremont wanted a "blossoming unconscious sexuality". They threw her in the hound outfit, gave her some heavenly honkers and meaty muscles, crafted the definitive Phoenix effect and it was AWESOME. In a way it's visually representative of Rachel's character moving past being just a victim, taking charge of her past and inverting it's symbols to empower herself. She's strong, powerful and sexual, rather unlike the Rachel who arrived in 616 a year or so earlier in Uncanny.

[pariah-1972]

would the argument be any different if franklin richards and julie power started traipsing around in these sorts of situations (with the intent on selling more material through physical suggestion?)

{{going off the counterpoint that "sex sells" re: illyana's bathing suits}}Julie Power is hot and an adult bi-sexual therefore i allow myself to objectify her voraciously.

[worstblogever]

So if it was just male members of the cast running around in swim shorts or speedos, would that be wrong too?

http://www.faniq.com/images/blog/FamilyGuyHerbert.jpg

Mmmm... mmm... now you're talkin'.

[pariah-1972]

I've missed you too.It's good that all of us pyscho's have a place to bond so we don't have time to shoot up schools or community centers.
:biggrin:

[darknessatnoon]

Ask the slave's master, Ahab.


According to Davis, Claremont wanted a "blossoming unconscious sexuality". They threw her in the hound outfit, gave her some heavenly honkers and meaty muscles, crafted the definitive Phoenix effect and it was AWESOME. In a way it's actually visually representative of Rachel's character moving past being a victim, taking charge of her past and inverting it's symbols to empower herself. She's strong, powerful and sexual, rather unlike the Rachel who arrived in 616 a year or so earlier in Uncanny.

You should write erotica, jarrod. I'm sure many housewives and across America would be turned on by you.

[Shyft]

http://www.faniq.com/images/blog/FamilyGuyHerbert.jpg

Mmmm... mmm... now you're talkin'.

i cant see the image you posted, so im going to assume its either highly inappropriate, or gross, or hilarious, or all 3!

how dare you / ewww / lol. Delete as applicable.

[AcesX1X]

Julie Power is hot and an adult bi-sexual therefore i allow myself to objectify her voraciously.

what about franklin richards and hope the messiah.

[Novaya Havoc]

Delete as applicable.

May I delete your CBR account?

[DiamondHart]

So if it was just male members of the cast running around in swim shorts or speedos, would that be wrong too?

No, I also object to that, it's just women always seem to the topic when subjects of sex are talked about.

Bobby lives in Brazil they were on vacay there wantign to relax and have some downtime and being at the beach is fun especially when your a kid.

Again, let me go slowly because this is getting difficult for you. What was the point of going to Brazil and the beach if they were just going to be grabbed up and transported somewhere else? Why couldn't they go to a park? It is not the in-story reason I am looking for, it's why the writer felt the need to even put the situation in the script.

[pariah-1972]

what about franklin richards and hhope the messiah.I'm not into Franklin or boys really and I'm waiting for hope to become the resident hottie ginger like her phoenix parentage suggests.

[Shyft]

It's good that all of us pyscho's have a place to bond so we don't have time to shoot up schools or community centers.
:biggrin:

I was thinking of going to find my friends from Greek school, track down a case of a Turk beating up a Greek, and beat up said Turk, rather than leave it to the relevant authorities. Because if X-Men has taught me anything, its that a) child pornography is ok and b) occasioning physical violence on a group that attacks your ethnic group is ok.

[DiamondHart]

Ask the slave's master, Ahab.


According to Davis, Claremont wanted a "blossoming unconscious sexuality". They threw her in the hound outfit, gave her some heavenly honkers and meaty muscles, crafted the definitive Phoenix effect and it was AWESOME. In a way it's visually representative of Rachel's character moving past being just a victim, taking charge of her past and inverting it's symbols to empower herself. She's strong, powerful and sexual, rather unlike the Rachel who arrived in 616 a year or so earlier in Uncanny.

So then why make her 17? If she's a child from the future, why not make her 18?

[Shyft]

May I delete your CBR account?

Go for it Board Mod! Oh wait.

[pariah-1972]

No, I also object to that, it's just women always seem to the topic when subjects of sex are talked about.



Again, let me go slowly because this is getting difficult for you. What was the point of going to Brazil and the beach if they were just going to be grabbed up and transported somewhere else? Why couldn't they go to a park? It is not the in-story reason I am looking for, it's why the writer felt the need to even put the situation in the script.Who knows why Claremont does anything.

[Prodigy55]

May I delete your CBR account?

You may delete your avatar.

[DiamondHart]

Who knows why Claremont does anything.

Thanks, that is a wonderful answer, great counterpoint.

[.LuckyStar.]

I objectify Brazilians.

Thank you, timbox. I like the way you think!

[pariah-1972]

I was thinking of going to find my friends from Greek school, track down a case of a Turk beating up a Greek, and beat up said Turk, rather than leave it to the relevant authorities. Because if X-Men has taught me anything, its that a) child pornography is ok and b) occasioning physical violence on a group that attacks your ethnic group is ok.They should just listen to the They Might Be Giants song Istanbul not Constantinople and be happy

[Shyft]

No, I also object to that, it's just women always seem to the topic when subjects of sex are talked about.


So no one under the age of 18 should be depicted in a swim suit, because that objectifies them. Is that correct? What about skin-tight X-team Uniforms? Shorts? Short sleeves? V cut tops?

You say "when subjects of sex are talked about". Where in those Beach scenes is sex talked about? Are any of the underage characters depicted acting in a sexual manner?

[Optic Rage!]

I was thinking of going to find my friends from Greek school, track down a case of a Turk beating up a Greek, and beat up said Turk, rather than leave it to the relevant authorities. Because if X-Men has taught me anything, its that a) child pornography is ok and b) occasioning physical violence on a group that attacks your ethnic group is ok.

ZOMG i hate the Turks.

[AcesX1X]

I'm not into Franklin or boys really and I'm waiting for hope to become the resident hottie ginger like her phoenix parentage suggests.

thanks for answering my question.

if others share your opinions, then diamondhart is perfectly reasonable in her alarm at you people's taste.

[pariah-1972]

thanks for answering my question.

if others share your opinions, then diamondhart is perfectly reasonable in her alarm at you people's taste.Yep i'm just a pedophile in waiting and that's the only reason i read comic books.

[Shyft]

thanks for answering my question.

if others share your opinions, then diamondhart is perfectly reasonable in her alarm at you people's taste.

Im guessing there was a small piece of sarcasm in there that you have either missed or decided to ignore.

[Dagger]

ZOMG i hate the Turks.
Racist. If they were good enough for Helen of Troy, they should be good enough for you.

[AcesX1X]

Im guessing there was a small piece of sarcasm in there that you have either missed or decided to ignore.

over half the things people say in jest are true.

[jarrod]

You should write erotica, jarrod. I'm sure many housewives and across America would be turned on by you.
Momz do LOVE me. If I was straight, no doubt I'd be doing milf porn.


So then why make her 17? If she's a child from the future, why not make her 18?
What's it matter? She was enslaved at 14, brainwashed, branded, continually abused, probably raped, forced to murder, etc, etc. Part of the tragedy of Rachel's story is how vulnerable she was when she went through hell, and what she lost in the process. She was definitely sexualized in Excalibur, but she was empowered simultaneously... her change was total, both physical and emotional. This was precisely about her not being a child anymore, even if not strictly "legal" yet.

Also, if you want some legal Ray to ogle...

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/50555-4052-66360-1-excalibur_super.jpg

[Novaya Havoc]

I objectify Turkic peoples.

[darknessatnoon]

Momz do LOVE me. If I was straight, no doubt I'd be doing milf porn.



What's it matter? She was enslaved at 14, brainwashed, branded, continually abused, probably raped, forced to murder, etc, etc. Part of the tragedy of Rachel's story is how vulnerable she was when she went through hell, and what she lost in the process. She was definitely sexualized in Excalibur, but she was empowered simultaneously... her change was total, both physical and emotional. This was precisely about her not being a child anymore, even if not strictly "legal" yet.

Also, if you want some legal Ray to ogle...

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/50555-4052-66360-1-excalibur_super.jpg

Is this the issue where she gets lost in the time-stream? If so, it was one of my favorites.

[Dagger]

Momz do LOVE me. If I was straight, no doubt I'd be doing milf porn.



What's it matter? She was enslaved at 14, brainwashed, branded, continually abused, probably raped, forced to murder, etc, etc. Part of the tragedy of Rachel's story is how vulnerable she was when she went through hell, and what she lost in the process. She was definitely sexualized in Excalibur, but she was empowered simultaneously... her change was total, both physical and emotional. This was precisely about her not being a child anymore, even if not strictly "legal" yet.

Also, if you want some legal Ray to ogle...

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/50555-4052-66360-1-excalibur_super.jpg
I love Joe Mad, but her jugs are waaaaaaaaaaay too big, there.

[jarrod]

Is this the issue where she gets lost in the time-stream? If so, it was one of my favorites.
No, it's the one where Rachel outmaneuvers Cable and Jean tells her she loves her.

[darknessatnoon]

and Jean tells her she loves her.

awwwwwww,

well, a white lie never hurt anyone.

[AcesX1X]

No, it's the one where Rachel outmaneuvers Cable and Jean tells her she loves her.

they are thinking of this. look at how hideous meggan is.

https://www.newkadia.com/Covers/S/E/Excalibur%201988%20series/excalibur1988series75.jpg

[jarrod]

I love Joe Mad, but her jugs are waaaaaaaaaaay too big, there.
She's got some junk in the trunk too. <3 <3

offtopic, but Mad was originally planned to take over Excalibur after Davis left. JRJR bolted from Uncanny though, and he got a quickie promotion. Kinda weird how the core twins always snagged the good artists directly from Excalibur in the 90s (Mad, Pacheco, Salva).

[jarrod]

awwwwwww,

well, a white lie never hurt anyone.
Worse than that, Jean said she was actively trying to make 616 Rachel happen! Think she was lying to Scott about the pill?

they are thinking of this. look at how hideous meggan is.

https://www.newkadia.com/Covers/S/E/Excalibur%201988%20series/excalibur1988series75.jpg
That looks like one crazy orgasm.

[Shyft]

over half the things people say in jest are true.

I dont know how much that applies to the bullshit people will say on forums but whatever, if you've got a 51% chance that the sarcasm was false, more power you for playing the odds.

[AcesX1X]

I dont know how much that applies to the bullshit people will say on forums but whatever, if you've got a 51% chance that the sarcasm was false, more power you for playing the odds.

this isn't a power play, shyft. this is genuine concern.

[Seres]

Do you think Marvel sexualise children enough, or could they stand to go further?

Would Young X-Men have been saved from cancellation if Blindfold, Dust, Anole and Ink had been drawn in bondage gear on one of the covers?

[Shyft]

this isn't a power play, shyft. this is genuine concern.

Genuine concern about what? That readers will develop paedophilic tendencies based on reading X-Men books? That X-writers are paedophiles? That underage kids will think its ok to wear bikinis to the beach?

Are you also worried that marvel books encourage violent vigilante ethnic violence? That all the teachers in the world might start thinking its ok to dress like Emma Frost in class? That scientists will take Beasts lesson and experiment on themselves?

Im not saying it isnt an issue. Greg Land making Pixie look like a porn star is not ok. But getting angry about X-writers portraying underage teens in bikinis and swim shorts when underage kids DO WEAR bikinis and swim shorts just seems a little over-protective, imo.

[ReturnOfTheComeback]

While all you puritans here are debating about whether or not teenagers are even sexy in the first place, I ( and millions of other heterosexual males around the globe ) will be getting turned on and fapping off to fourteen year old manga characters , nyah nyah nyah ...

http://mangastyle.net/book3/3-59.jpg

[AcesX1X]

Genuine concern about what?
Im not saying it isnt an issue. Greg Land making Pixie look like a porn star is not ok. But getting angry about X-writers portraying underage teens in bikinis and swim shorts when underage kids DO WEAR bikinis and swim shorts just seems a little over-protective, imo.

maybe, maybe not.

i don't know where i stand on the issue, personally. i know i dislike the reactions i'm seeing to diamondhart. you could at least take her opinions seriously without demeaning her values.

and the internet could do a little less with people saying they are waiting for hope the messiah to start following suit. that's just creepy and disturbing.

[bringthenoise]

When her values say depicting teenagers going the beach is some kind of attempt to turn X-readers into paedophiles, it's pretty hard to take them seriously.

[DiamondHart]

When her values say depicting teenagers going the beach is some kind of attempt to turn X-readers into paedophiles, it's pretty hard to take them seriously.

Show me the post where I said that.

[Seres]

When her values say depicting teenagers going the beach is some kind of attempt to turn X-readers into paedophiles, it's pretty hard to take them seriously.

DiamondHart never said that. And several people so far have happily admitted their paedophilic nature to CBR anyway.

[bringthenoise]

That was slightly hyperbolic, I'll admit (although I'd argue it's a legitimate debate tactic). The constant questioning of why teenagers would be at the beach still undermines the seriousness of the debate.

[timbox]

AcesX1X and DiamondHart are sexually repressed. Perhaps you two should get together and work on your shortcomings.

[Shyft]

Show me the post where I said that.

well when someone said "so 15 year old girls arent allowed to go to the beach?"

your response was

"i hope you havent graduated high school yet"

implying either

a)that if they HAVE graduated they are what, too old to be allowed to even consider the idea of 15 years olds at the beach? and therefore a pervert

Or

b) that their post was of the quality expected from a teenager, potentially insulting the poster if they have graduated.

So yes you didnt say specifically that 15 year olds on the beach is disgusting, but all your posts have heavily suggested that anyone who disagrees with you is some sort of pervert or moral deviant.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Is this STILL going on?

[DiamondHart]

That was slightly hyperbolic, I'll admit (although I'd argue it's a legitimate debate tactic). The constant questioning of why teenagers would be at the beach still undermines the seriousness of the debate.

No it doesn't, it ties directly into why I started the thread. These characters aren't real, I know it's tough, so their actions are the result of a script someone wrote. In that script it mentioned for them to be abducted and have them fight in what they were wearing. Knowing that, why put them at a beach? Just so the artist could draw a bunch of kids in cheesecake poses while wearing bathing suits? Kids go to the beach, I get it, I did it as a kid too. I also went to parks and the mall and the movies. Why put underage children in this situation? Just to draw them in skimpy outfits?

[ReturnOfTheComeback]

people saying they are waiting for hope the messiah to start following suit. that's just creepy and disturbing.

http://darkdiamond.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/misty-swimsuit01.jpg

Young girls can look real good in a swimsuit :wink:

[SkinFromBone]

I didn't think the OP was serious about the topic. This thread could cause nukes to be fired as time passes. I can tell.

[DiamondHart]

well when someone said "so 15 year old girls arent allowed to go to the beach?"

your response was

"i hope you havent graduated high school yet"

implying either

a)that if they HAVE graduated they are what, too old to be allowed to even consider the idea of 15 years olds at the beach? and therefore a pervert

Or

b) that their post was of the quality expected from a teenager, potentially insulting the poster if they have graduated.

So yes you didnt say specifically that 15 year olds on the beach is disgusting, but all your posts have heavily suggested that anyone who disagrees with you is some sort of pervert or moral deviant.

No, you missed the point of that comment. The point of the comment was to ridicule the poster for even suggesting that I said that or was implying that. I was insulting his intelligence.

[darknessatnoon]

No, you missed the point of that comment. The point of the comment was to ridicule the poster for even suggesting that I said that or was implying that. I was insulting his intelligence.

Given his defense of depravity, shyft is going to have to abdicate his status as "moral victor."

[DiamondHart]

people saying they are waiting for hope the messiah to start following suit. that's just creepy and disturbing.


Young girls can look real good in a swimsuit :wink:

You are disgusting.

[Pixie_Solanas]

I didn't think the OP was serious about the topic. This thread could cause nukes to be fired as time passes. I can tell.

That was my first impression, just well-played trollage. Now, i'm not so sure...

[AcesX1X]

AcesX1X and DiamondHart are sexually repressed. Perhaps you two should get together and work on your shortcomings.

i freely admit to having missed a few appointments with twisted bliss.

[bringthenoise]

"Why put underage children in this situation? Just to draw them in skimpy outfits?"

Well if everything happened at the Mall, they'd look pretty stupid for going back to the mall all the time, wouldn't they?

[DiamondHart]

"Why put underage children in this situation? Just to draw them in skimpy outfits?"

Well if everything happened at the Mall, they'd look pretty stupid for going back to the mall all the time, wouldn't they?

Yes because it's only the beach and the mall that teenagers can go to.

[Shyft]

No, you missed the point of that comment. The point of the comment was to ridicule the poster for even suggesting that I said that or was implying that. I was insulting his intelligence.

well then, hence maybe the lack of caring consideration of your comments from others.

[AcesX1X]

"Why put underage children in this situation? Just to draw them in skimpy outfits?"

Well if everything happened at the Mall, they'd look pretty stupid for going back to the mall all the time, wouldn't they?

the only thematic reason i can see for that scene in question was to highlight the severity of karma's obesity at the time.

if you recall, she was throwing things at storm from the couch of a darkened room during the exact same time as the other kids were on the beach.

chowing down on cheeseburgers and fries while karma was pitching a fit and threatening suicide over her fatness would have accomplished the same goal.

i think the scene in the comic works, don't get me wrong, but you need to work on your argument.

[DiamondHart]

well then, hence maybe the lack of caring consideration of your comments from others.

Constantly have my point and beliefs ridiculed will do that to a poster. You constantly over exaggerate what I'm trying to discuss, making some assumption I'm a puritan and bible thumper. If you want me to take your accusation seriously then go back and point out every other poster who has done the same to me. Otherwise, fall off that high horse.

[Shyft]

Given his defense of depravity, shyft is going to have to abdicate his status as "moral victor."

Dont ever go to the Beach darknessatnoon , there are underage people there in swimsuits. If one of them makes it into any photos you take, that makes you a child pornographer!

Im not saying there isnt an issue to be discussed here, im just saying that crying foul of any underage character in anything other than a baggy sweater and sweats is a bit silly.

[Shyft]

Constantly have my point and beliefs ridiculed will do that to a poster. You constantly over exaggerate what I'm trying to discuss, making some assumption I'm a puritan and bible thumper. If you want me to take your accusation seriously then go back and point out every other poster who has done the same to me. Otherwise, fall off that high horse.

i cant ride a horse. And they arent the ones who started the thread, and most of them didnt stick around to try and defend their insults and ridiculous comments. What is a person to do?

[DiamondHart]

I will be going for a while now, I need to get lunch and the line at Wendy's gets really long if I don't get there early. I just love the $1.99 triple stack.

[Twisted Bliss]

i freely admit to having missed a few appointments with twisted bliss.

You will be punished accordingly.

I have the nipple clamps on stand-by

[wanderlust565]

I prefer the spicy chicken sandwich

[jarrod]

i cant ride a horse.
I can. :wink:

[timbox]

I can. :wink:

I thought horses rode you?

[Shyft]

I can. :wink:

Then maybe you should get on a high horse, then get off it in my place. Just, you know, for the look of the thing.

[jarrod]

I thought horses rode you?
Only when the mood strikes. I'm versatile on paper.

[ReturnOfTheComeback]

You are disgusting

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tLESWCj7nLE/SRvE-GgB7DI/AAAAAAAAC6k/hpTnB37LXzE/s400/moe+38372+hiiragi_kagami+lucky_star+school_swimsui t+swimsuits+tomoeda.jpg

Hey, I just calls it like I sees it ! :biggrin:

[Bronze Badger]

I have a question: Isn't sex appeal in the eye of the beholder? If you find an underaged fictional character sexually appealing doesn't that reflect on you as opposed to the underaged character or whomever illustrated the fiction?

[DiamondHart]

I have a question: Isn't sex appeal in the eye of the beholder? If you find an underaged fictional character sexually appealing doesn't that reflect on you as opposed to the underaged character or whomever illustrated the fiction?

No. There are common images that are still renowned for sexual appeal. The swim suit, the tight leather S&M gear with spikes, the posing that comes with "action" sequences. While I might not find that appealing, most people do.

[jarrod]

No. There are common images that are still renowned for sexual appeal. The swim suit, the tight leather S&M gear with spikes, the posing that comes with "action" sequences. While I might not find that appealing, most people do.
You forgot Doug's tite speedo. <3 <3

[Bronze Badger]

You forgot Doug's tite speedo. <3 <3

It haunts my dreams.

[Valeria Kementari]

Dani should have used her power to create some clothes, she's an underage girl, she doesn't need to be drawn like that.


Have you actually read new Mutants Special Edition 1? Dani looks like she is 47 in the first "bathing suits" pages :rolleyes:

[DiamondHart]

Have you actually read new Mutants Special Edition 1? Dani looks like she is 47 in the first "bathing suits" pages :rolleyes:

You are too dense to realize it is not about that one image, that one issue, Jesus you people still don't get it do you?

[Bronze Badger]

You are too dense to realize it is not about that one image, that one issue, Jesus you people still don't get it do you?

Wow. I had no idea you felt this passionately on the subject. I will now reread your previous posts in this thread and laugh hysterically.

[DiamondHart]

Wow. I had no idea you felt this passionately on the subject. I will now reread your previous posts in this thread and laugh hysterically.

I understand, when someone can't come up with anything to say you deflect with sarcasm and pretend it's below you. It's a good defense mechanism to hide the inferiority feeling you probably have had since you were a kid.

[Bolebeau]

You are too dense to realize it is not about that one image, that one issue, Jesus you people still don't get it do you?

We don't get it? It's a bunch of kids at the beach in bathing suits. It's actually not uncommon for teens to go to the beach, y'know.

Maybe if this were the 1920's, they would have worn this:

http://www.old-picture.com/united-states-history-1900s---1930s/pictures/Bathing-Suits.jpg

[DiamondHart]

We don't get it? It's a bunch of kids at the beach in bathing suits. It's actually not uncommon for teens to go to the beach, y'know.

Maybe if this were the 1920's, they would have worn this:

http://www.old-picture.com/united-states-history-1900s---1930s/pictures/Bathing-Suits.jpg

This post again just proves you don't get what the entire point of this thread is. Way to fail again.

[Bronze Badger]

I understand, when someone can't come up with anything to say you deflect with sarcasm and pretend it's below you. It's a good defense mechanism to hide the inferiority feeling you probably have had since you were a kid.

That's shockingly personal. If you've noticed, I have refrained from making this personal. If you get so upset about the comments and viewpoints of others, perhaps the internet is the wrong forum for you.

[DiamondHart]

That's shockingly personal. If you've noticed, I have refrained from making this personal. If you get so upset about the comments and viewpoints of others, perhaps the internet is the wrong forum for you.

Yea dismissing my ideas as trivial isn't personal! I'm gonna go get some ice cream, maybe when people cool down I'll come back.

[Craig T. Nelson]

Sex sells. Teenage sex sells even better.

[Bolebeau]

This post again just proves you don't get what the entire point of this thread is. Way to fail again.

Thanks! I don't accomplish much, but when I do it's well-earned.

I already posted earlier that I understand your issues with oversexualization of teenagers in comics (it's an issue with women in comics too), I just don't get that the issue stretches way beyond general oversexualization to the depiction of teenagers in regular teenage situations for you.

There's just a lot of situations (and I'm including Illyana's demonic form in this, just be glad that she's wearing anything, something that a lot of demons in comics do not) where I don't think it the illustrations are aimed to create sex appeal at all.

That picture was just my response to the continuation of the whole recurring 'New Mutants at the beach' topic.

[Bronze Badger]

Yea dismissing my ideas as trivial isn't personal! I'm gonna go get some ice cream, maybe when people cool down I'll come back.

I didn't dismiss your ideas as trivial, I just disagreed with them. There is a difference. You need to learn to respect other people's opinions, even if they disagree with your own. Either that or become Amish.

[DiamondHart]

I didn't dismiss your ideas as trivial, I just disagreed with them. There is a difference. You need to learn to respect other people's opinions, even if they disagree with your own. Either that or become Amish.

Yea, telling me you're gonna go back and laugh hysterically isn't a way of dismissing what I'm saying. It's so clear now how'd I miss that.

[Bronze Badger]

Yea, telling me you're gonna go back and laugh hysterically isn't a way of dismissing what I'm saying. It's so clear now how'd I miss that.

I wasn't mocking your opinion. I was mocking your close-minded attitude.

[DiamondHart]

I wasn't mocking your opinion. I was mocking your close-minded attitude.

You think I'm close-minded, I think it's surprising you made it outta pre-school, we're never gonna get along.

BTW I live in Tampa too.

[Bronze Badger]

You think I'm close-minded, I think it's surprising you made it outta pre-school, we're never gonna get along.

BTW I live in Tampa too.

I'll keep my eyes out for an overweight adolescent boy obsessed with Emma Frost yet somehow offended by the sexualization of fictional characters somewhere between a Wendy's and an ice cream parlor.

[DiamondHart]

I'll keep my eyes out for an overweight adolescent boy obsessed with Emma Frost yet somehow offended by the sexualization of fictional characters somewhere between a Wendy's and an ice cream parlor.

I'm a woman!

[Bronze Badger]

I'm a woman!

I like how that's the only part of the sentence you object to.

[Pixie_Solanas]

We don't get it? It's a bunch of kids at the beach in bathing suits. It's actually not uncommon for teens to go to the beach, y'know.

Maybe if this were the 1920's, they would have worn this:

http://www.old-picture.com/united-states-history-1900s---1930s/pictures/Bathing-Suits.jpg

Tell me that kid in the background is getting good vibes from that hot mama in a one-piece. Naughty ankle-barer.

[DiamondHart]

I like how that's the only part of the sentence you object to.

Yea well I know who I am and I'm not afraid to admit it. Can you say the same about your love of underage children in bathing suits?

[Shyft]

We don't get it? It's a bunch of kids at the beach in bathing suits. It's actually not uncommon for teens to go to the beach, y'know.

Maybe if this were the 1920's, they would have worn this:

http://www.old-picture.com/united-states-history-1900s---1930s/pictures/Bathing-Suits.jpg

the one in the white swimming cap is Illyana, and the dude measuring how much thigh showing is Belasco, trying to decide if hes corrupted her yet.

And you are my new favourite poster for this brilliant image :biggrin:

[Bronze Badger]

Yea well I know who I am and I'm not afraid to admit it. Can you say the same about your love of underage children in bathing suits?

I can see this is going to devolve further into personal insults. Let's just agree to disagree. Enjoy your ice cream and have a nice day.

[jarrod]

Tell me that kid in the background is getting good vibes from that hot mama in a one-piece. Naughty ankle-barer.
I think we've found Doug Ramsey impersonator #5!

[DiamondHart]

I can see this is going to devolve further into personal insults. Let's just agree to disagree. Enjoy your ice cream and have a nice day.

You too, don't look both ways.

[Shyft]

Yea well I know who I am and I'm not afraid to admit it. Can you say the same about your love of underage children in bathing suits?

pssst! Thinking its acceptable for teenagers to be depicted in something other than a baggy sweaters and sweat pants and "a love of underage children" are two different things.

Out of curiosity, you didnt respond to a question in my earlier posts. Why is it ok for an 18 year old to be into S&M but not a 17 year old? If its a purely moral objection, do you honestly think 12 months or less is a big enough difference in someones mentality and social awareness at that age that makes a big swing in whether they are ready to make that sort of choice or not?

[DiamondHart]

pssst! Thinking its acceptable for teenagers to be depicted in something other than a baggy sweaters and sweat pants and "a love of underage children" are two different things.

Out of curiosity, you didnt respond to a question in my earlier posts. Why is it ok for an 18 year old to be into S&M but not a 17 year old? If its a purely moral objection, do you honestly think 12 months or less is a big enough difference in someones mentality and social awareness at that age that makes a big swing in whether they are ready to make that sort of choice or not?

It's the law, 18 is an adult, 17 is a minor.

[Bronze Badger]

pssst! Thinking its acceptable for teenagers to be depicted in something other than a baggy sweaters and sweat pants and "a love of underage children" are two different things.

Out of curiosity, you didnt respond to a question in my earlier posts. Why is it ok for an 18 year old to be into S&M but not a 17 year old? If its a purely moral objection, do you honestly think 12 months or less is a big enough difference in someones mentality and social awareness at that age that makes a big swing in whether they are ready to make that sort of choice or not?

Be careful what you say Shyft, I think she's a cop.

[jarrod]

It's the law, 18 is an adult, 17 is a minor.
It happened in the UK. Age of consent is 16 there iirc.

[DiamondHart]

It happened in the UK. Age of consent is 16 there iirc.

Comic was sold in the US

[DiamondHart]

Be careful what you say Shyft, I think she's a cop.

Just can't get enough of me can you?

[Bronze Badger]

Comic was sold in the US

I wouldn't engage jarrod within this subject. He thinks Ben 10 is yummy.

[jarrod]

Comic was sold in the US
But it took place in the UK. That makes the source material more realistic. At least going by what Twisted, Josef and Seres have told me about UK teens.

Maybe this also explains Pixie's "blossoming"?

[Vegetarian Goat]

This thread should be closed. It's mostly degressed to name-calling at this point, and even when the original topic IS being discussed, civility and respect is nowhere to be found.

[DiamondHart]

This thread should be closed. It's mostly degressed to name-calling at this point, and even when the original topic IS being discussed, civility and respect is nowhere to be found.

It's get annoying having your point of view disrespected.

[Bronze Badger]

It's get annoying having your point of view disrespected.

Maybe that's why we're doing it. :biggrin:

[Vegetarian Goat]

It's get annoying having your point of view disrespected.

Do you take issue with the fact that others don't share your point of view, or with the manner that they're disagreeing with you?

[jarrod]

It's get annoying having your point of view disrespected.
Is it more annoying than when everyone just doesn't get it or writes the stupidest things you've ever seen?

Practice what you preach.

[JCM45]

OK this is really getting out of hand. I even went out of my way to make a profile to respond in this thread.

First and foremost, people are entitled to their opinions and if you don't agree with them you need to get over it. This is for everyone on the forum

Second, and more on topic, while yes objectifying minors in revealing clothing is wrong, in this situation this is clearly not the case. The kids are at a beach, where it is a common place to wear a swimsuit. Why did the writer choose said beach, fuck if I know. Maybe that's just what they were in the mood for that day. They picked a beach, the characters are wearing swimsuits, and they are not by any means being objectified in a state of undress.

Third and finally, DiamondHart, you really need to chill out. I've read this entire thread I find it kind of sad that while you tried to bring up an interesting topic, you obviously can't deal with the fact that the majority of the people on here don't agree with you. You even lack the maturity to be the bigger person and just walk away. You continue to come back and insult everyone who disagrees with you. Yes, what some of the other posters are saying is disrespectful however, you need to learn when it is time to just walk away.

Well there's my two cents...

[Bronze Badger]

OK this is really getting out of hand. I even went out of my way to make a profile to respond in this thread.

First and foremost, people are entitled to their opinions and if you don't agree with them you need to get over it. This is for everyone on the forum

Second, and more on topic, while yes objectifying minors in revealing clothing is wrong, in this situation this is clearly not the case. The kids are at a beach, where it is a common place to wear a swimsuit. Why did the writer choose said beach, fuck if I know. Maybe that's just what they were in the mood for that day. They picked a beach, the characters are wearing swimsuits, and they are not by any means being objectified in a state of undress.

Third and finally, DiamondHart, you really need to chill out. I've read this entire thread I find it kind of sad that while you tried to bring up an interesting topic, you obviously can't deal with the fact that the majority of the people on here don't agree with you. You even lack the maturity to be the bigger person and just walk away. You continue to come back and insult everyone who disagrees with you. Yes, what some of the other posters are saying is disrespectful, you need to learn when it is time to just walk away.

Well there's my two cents...

Welcome to the forum! You'll fit in nicely.

[JCM45]

Welcome to the forum! You'll fit in nicely.

why thank you

[Bronze Badger]

why thank you

People this is what the internet is all about. In a thread filled with insults and insensitvity, I have found a friend.

[DiamondHart]

OK this is really getting out of hand. I even went out of my way to make a profile to respond in this thread.

First and foremost, people are entitled to their opinions and if you don't agree with them you need to get over it. This is for everyone on the forum

Second, and more on topic, while yes objectifying minors in revealing clothing is wrong, in this situation this is clearly not the case. The kids are at a beach, where it is a common place to wear a swimsuit. Why did the writer choose said beach, fuck if I know. Maybe that's just what they were in the mood for that day. They picked a beach, the characters are wearing swimsuits, and they are not by any means being objectified in a state of undress.

Third and finally, DiamondHart, you really need to chill out. I've read this entire thread I find it kind of sad that while you tried to bring up an interesting topic, you obviously can't deal with the fact that the majority of the people on here don't agree with you. You even lack the maturity to be the bigger person and just walk away. You continue to come back and insult everyone who disagrees with you. Yes, what some of the other posters are saying is disrespectful however, you need to learn when it is time to just walk away.

Well there's my two cents...

It's frustrating to be insulted like this and then to get chastised when I strike back. Let me know when the double standard stops. Welcome to the forum, maybe you will have better luck then me. I think I'll just limit my online activity to the dating service I'm a member of.

[Home made ectoplasm]

I totally believe DiamondHart is the bigger person. <3

[jarrod]

It's frustrating to be insulted like this and then to get chastised when I strike back. Let me know when the double standard stops.
lol. The toxic tone and ad hominems started with you!

Bitch PLZ!

[jarrod]

I totally believe DiamondHart is the bigger person. <3
Shut up and break me Scotland.

[DiamondHart]

lol. The toxic tone and ad hominems started with you!

Bitch PLZ!

Please, you started mocking me with the first post in this thread!

I'm done for today, I need to take a break anyway, my stomach is rumbling.

[Bronze Badger]

It's frustrating to be insulted like this and then to get chastised when I strike back. Let me know when the double standard stops. Welcome to the forum, maybe you will have better luck then me. I think I'll just limit my online activity to the dating service I'm a member of.

No one wants you to leave the forum, we just want you to lighten up. You have to realize that there are different opinions out there. Some will agree with you and some will disagree with you, and others just like to argue. :smile:

[JCM45]

It's frustrating to be insulted like this and then to get chastised when I strike back. Let me know when the double standard stops. Welcome to the forum, maybe you will have better luck then me. I think I'll just limit my online activity to the dating service I'm a member of.

I understand that it's frustrating that your being insulted, but think about it, you are doing the same exact thing to everyone else. I really think that you need to just walk away now. And this thread should definitely be locked.

[Vegetarian Goat]

Personally, i wish she'd answer my question.

[DiamondHart]

No one wants you to leave the forum, we just want you to lighten up. You have to realize that there are different opinions out there. Some will agree with you and some will disagree with you, and others just like to argue. :smile:

I don't care if you disagree, but making me out to be some kind of bible thumper virgin puritan is also cruel, those people are nuts.

[jarrod]

Please, you started mocking me with the first post in this thread!
lol. Your persecution complex is impressive!

[JCM45]

I don't care if you disagree, but making me out to be some kind of bible thumper virgin puritan is also cruel, those people are nuts.

Well I really hate to let you know this DiamondHart, but that's exactly what you aer making yourself out to be. While I'm not condoning the people who are calling you these names, you really are coming off as a bible thumper virgin puritan....

[darkblue]

I think people should be thankful when their favorite characters have sex appeal. I bet Rockslide looked great before he got all rocky.

[Shyft]

OK this is really getting out of hand. I even went out of my way to make a profile to respond in this thread.

First and foremost, people are entitled to their opinions and if you don't agree with them you need to get over it. This is for everyone on the forum

Second, and more on topic, while yes objectifying minors in revealing clothing is wrong, in this situation this is clearly not the case. The kids are at a beach, where it is a common place to wear a swimsuit. Why did the writer choose said beach, fuck if I know. Maybe that's just what they were in the mood for that day. They picked a beach, the characters are wearing swimsuits, and they are not by any means being objectified in a state of undress.

Third and finally, DiamondHart, you really need to chill out. I've read this entire thread I find it kind of sad that while you tried to bring up an interesting topic, you obviously can't deal with the fact that the majority of the people on here don't agree with you. You even lack the maturity to be the bigger person and just walk away. You continue to come back and insult everyone who disagrees with you. Yes, what some of the other posters are saying is disrespectful however, you need to learn when it is time to just walk away.

Well there's my two cents...

you're obviously just a massive pervert as well. DISGUSTING.

[DiamondHart]

Personally, i wish she'd answer my question.

What was your question? Things get lose with all the replies, it's tough for me to fight for children's rights when I got so many posts to answer.

[JCM45]

you're obviously just a massive pervert as well. DISGUSTING.

I lol'd really hard at this for some reason...:biggrin:

[jarrod]

I'd say fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year olds have a "right" to sexuality. I certainly felt that way when I was that age.

[Vegetarian Goat]

What was your question? Things get lose with all the replies, it's tough for me to fight for children's rights when I got so many posts to answer.

My question was:

Do you take issue with the fact that others don't share your point of view, or with the manner that they're disagreeing with you?

Because if it's the latter, i'd direct you to a post i made last night, where, in the most respectful way that i could, i went into great detail about why i disagree with your point of view. You may have missed it while fighting for children's rights.

[Imraith Nimphais]

Wait a sec....yer fighting for the "rights" of characters who are the figment of someone's imagination (someone you do not know personally, I must add)drawn in the pages of a comic book?...I really do hope you expend the same if not greater energy fighting for the rights of actual flesh and blood children.

[DiamondHart]

My question was:

Do you take issue with the fact that others don't share your point of view, or with the manner that they're disagreeing with you?

Because if it's the latter, i'd direct you to a post i made last night, where, in the most respectful way that i could, i went into great detail about why i disagree with your point of view. You may have missed it while fighting for children's rights.

The 2nd part.

[DiamondHart]

Wait a sec....yer fighting for the "rights" of characters who are the figment of someone's imagination (someone you do not know personally, I must add)drawn in the pages of a comic book?...I really do hope you expend the same if not greater energy fighting for the rights of actual flesh and blood children.

I work with retarded kids at the YMCA in Tampa.

[Shyft]

I work with retarded kids at the YMCA in Tampa.

do they like being called retarded?

[JCM45]

I work with retarded kids at the YMCA in Tampa.

Yeah, and I work fixing computers. How is this relevant at all to the topic? :confused:

[DiamondHart]

do they like being called retarded?

I don't call them that when I work with them, but it's in our manual so I figure it's ok to say.

[jarrod]

I work with retarded kids at the YMCA in Tampa.
Wonderful! The Ableist language is really the cherry on top there.

Who's joke account are you?

[Bolebeau]

I work with retarded kids at the YMCA in Tampa.

Reading this I immediately imagined a group of mentally handicapped children botching up a Village People impersonation, and I feel horrible for it.

[JCM45]

Well guys I think we've just been trolled....

[Shyft]

I don't call them that when I work with them, but it's in our manual so I figure it's ok to say.

oh, so you only call them it behind their backs. You sensitive soul you.

[DiamondHart]

Maybe it's a flaw I have, but that doesn't discount my opinion on this matter!

[wanderlust565]

Why is this turning into a character debate, we really shouldn't be bashing each other. These forums from what I understand are all about sharing opinions. There's no reason we can't do that with respect for each other

[$5 Milkshake]

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9527/57317902.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3811/49696003.jpg

[Home made ectoplasm]

$5 Milkshake, as a father to 5 young kids you should know better.

[JCM45]

Wow milkshake....

[Imraith Nimphais]

Oh I agree WL...thusly...DiamondHeart believes that children in comics are being sexually misrepresented...the majority of posters tend to disagree.
There. End of discussion.
Brian, please do us all a favour and close this inane thread.

[$5 Milkshake]

$5 Milkshake, as a father to 5 young kids you should know better.

We've established my kids cant be oversexualized, they're all males.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Well guys I think we've just been trolled....

Ya think?

She lost me when she brought up shrimp cocktail in re: shrimping. And the constant references to quarter pounder lunch time et al.

[darknessatnoon]

Oh I agree WL...thusly...DiamondHeart believes that children in comics are being sexually misrepresented...the majority of posters tend to disagree.
There. End of discussion.
Brian, please do us all a favour and close this inane thread.

Drop dead. Just because you're close minded and hate getting an education, doesn't mean the rest of us are. No poll here, and majority doesn't rule on a discussion forum. So, away with you CC Zombie.

[jarrod]

We've established my kids cant be oversexualized, they're all males.
That sounds like a challenge. I'll email Skippy immediately!

[Imraith Nimphais]

...................

[JCM45]

wow epic flame war going on here guys...

It needs to end.

[darknessatnoon]

wow epic flame war going on here guys...

It needs to end.

Go back to lurking.

[JCM45]

Go back to lurking.

Wow... Someones panties are in a bunch....:biggrin:

[darknessatnoon]

Wow... Someones panties are in a bunch....:biggrin:

Tenth post and he uses an emoticon. Another worthless poster added to the boards.

[Home made ectoplasm]

I'd like this thread to stay open.

[darknessatnoon]

I'd like this thread to stay open.

Well, it's not a democracy. Some jamaican jerkoff can't come along and "tell" Cronin to close it in the first place. Just because people are offended that the thread implicates them doesn't mean "discussion over." Having jarrod, Leader of the Sex Perverts, gather the counter-charge, is especially ironic in this case.

[Jake V]

I'd like this thread to stay open.

As long as it can maintain the current level of debate.

[$5 Milkshake]

That sounds like a challenge. I'll email Skippy immediately!

No, you will respect the double standard.

[JCM45]

Tenth post and he uses an emoticon. Another worthless poster added to the boards.

Yeah, at least I'm not some ass hole who gets kicks insulting people on the internet. Anyway I've got class. See ya later everyone.

[darknessatnoon]

Yeah, at least I'm not some ass hole who gets kicks insulting people on the internet. Ass

Asshole is a compound word. Literacy counts, even on the internet.

[Imraith Nimphais]

I am not Jamaican...I am British, living in Trinidad....please note Darkness dear: not everyone living in the Caribbean is Jamaican...the Caribbean is a region made up of many small tropical islands. Jamaica is but one such island.

[darknessatnoon]

I am not Jamaican...I am British, living in Trinidad....please note Darkness dear: not everyone living in the Caribbean is Jamaican...the Caribbean is a region made up of many small tropical islands. Jamaica is but one such island.

Thanks for the geography lesson. Is pedophilia commonly accepted in Trinidad?

[AcesX1X]

I am not Jamaican...I am British, living in Trinidad....please note Darkness dear: not everyone living in the Caribbean is Jamaican...the Caribbean is a region made up of many small tropical islands. Jamaica is but one such island.

i am going there for a wedding this year!

[Imraith Nimphais]

No, dear. I would have to say it is not at all accepted. The paedophiles here, I am sure, do not read comic books.

[Disco Jess Minge]

I will agree that Pixie playing baseball in a swimsuit was awkward and unnecessary.

Maybe it would be better if she played whiffle ball?

[Jake V]

Maybe it would be better if she played whiffle ball?

Tee-ball would be better for someone of her limited baseball experience.

[Seres]

I will agree that Pixie playing baseball in a swimsuit was awkward and unnecessary.

I agree. Baseball isn't a real sport, so why would Pixie demean herself by playing it?

[CrystalGazing]

What is going on this thread is outta control. Not everybody is either a pervert or a prude, most of us fall somewhere in between

[darknessatnoon]

What is going on this thread is outta control. Not everybody is either a pervert or a prude, most of us fall somewhere in between

I agree that the tee-ball versus baseball is way too heated.

[Pixie_Solanas]

I will agree that Pixie playing baseball in a swimsuit was awkward and unnecessary.

Agreed. That hat was superfluous.

[timbox]

Agreed. That hat was superfluous.

The hat is essential to the baseball uniform.

[Bronze Badger]

I work with retarded kids at the YMCA in Tampa.

Let me get this straight, from your posts we are to believe the following:

1. You are an overweight adolescent female.
2. You choose CBR as a venue to fight for children's rights.
3. You work with retarded kids at the YMCA.
4. You have eaten at least 3 times since 1 PM EST.
5. You have offered to have a date at Golden Corral.
6. You worship Emma Frost, yet somehow have a problem with the sexualization of fictional characters.
7. You live in Tampa.

Am I correct so far?

[darknessatnoon]

Let me get this straight, from your posts we are to believe the following:

1. You are an overweight adolescent female.
2. You choose CBR as a venue to fight for children's rights.
3. You work with retarded kids at the YMCA.
4. You have eaten at least 3 times since 1 PM EST.
5. You have offered to have a date at Golden Corral.
6. You worship Emma Frost, yet somehow have a problem with the sexualization of fictional characters.
7. You live in Tampa.

Am I correct so far?

She is not an adolescent. And we all know who diamondhart is ever since Joe Franklin posted some of her cosplaying pics in the Fat Emma thread. She proved it was her by posting additional photos and even though the thread was incredibly cruel, she refused to break down. Stop with the conspiracy theory b.s. .

[Jake V]

Let me get this straight, from your posts we are to believe the following:

1. You are an overweight adolescent female.
2. You choose CBR as a venue to fight for children's rights.
3. You work with retarded kids at the YMCA.
4. You have eaten at least 3 times since 1 PM EST.
5. You have offered to have a date at Golden Corral.
6. You worship Emma Frost, yet somehow have a problem with the sexualization of fictional characters.
7. You live in Tampa.

Am I correct so far?
Is it making you hot? is that what gets you off?

[Bronze Badger]

Is it making you hot? is that what gets you off?

None of the above. I miss Joe Franklin.

[Jake V]

None of the above. I miss Joe Franklin.

You're a disgusting human being.

[Bronze Badger]

You're a disgusting human being.

On what basis?

[AcesX1X]

What is going on this thread is outta control. Not everybody is either a pervert or a prude, most of us fall somewhere in between

thanks, crystalgazing.

that is the most logical and observational post i have seen in this thread since i began reading.

bravo.

[timbox]

thanks, crystalgazing.

that is the most logical and observational post i have seen in this thread since i began reading.

bravo.

Did you read my posts?

[Jake V]

On what basis?

Your affinity for Joe Franklin.

[Bronze Badger]

Your affinity for Joe Franklin.

DiamondHart = Joe Franklin. The clues are all there.

[AcesX1X]

Did you read my posts?

brb.010101

[Pixie_Solanas]

thanks, crystalgazing.

that is the most logical and observational post i have seen in this thread since i began reading.

bravo.

Aside from the gratuitous Joe Franklin bashing-in-absentia?

[$5 Milkshake]

Did you read my posts?

Are you claiming to be observational and logical?

[timbox]

Are you claiming to be observational and logical?

I bleed common sense and discretion.

[Pixie_Solanas]

I bleed common sense and discretion.

bleed or excrete?

[alf_to_the_rescue]

DiamondHart = Joe Franklin. The clues are all there.

You make too much sense to be here

[AcesX1X]

Are you claiming to be observational and logical?

of course timbox is observational and logical.

science is a requirement.

[CrystalGazing]

thanks, crystalgazing.

that is the most logical and observational post i have seen in this thread since i began reading.

bravo.

Thanks Aces, it's cool to stand for something but it's important to remember that the people we post with are in fact people and as such are more complex than the simple sentences they post , Also, let's just try to be nice, this is about comics after all.................Who's on your avi by the way, I don't recognize

[rage6839]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/rage6839/chrishansen.jpg

[ijffdrie]

at least i know out of control threads on this forum now :biggrin:

i have one more question for op: you do realize that most people dont see any sexualization in a teenager in bikini, except when they want to see it?

[Bronze Badger]

at least i know out of control threads on this forum now :biggrin:

i have one more question for op: you do realize that most people dont see any sexualization in a teenager in bikini, except when they want to see it?

I tried that argument already to no avail.

[AcesX1X]

Thanks Aces, it's cool to stand for something but it's important to remember that the people we post with are in fact people and as such are more complex than the simple sentences they post , Also, let's just try to be nice, this is about comics after all.................Who's on your avi by the way, I don't recognize

it is boom boom as depicted by adam pollina.

i like your crystal avatar. would that happen to be jack kirby-drawn?

[jarrod]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/rage6839/chrishansen.jpg
Wasn't his show shut down for homicide?

[striderhirryu2]

It was suicide.

[jarrod]

It was suicide.
Not in civil court.

[striderhirryu2]

Didn't they settle?

[jarrod]

Didn't they settle?
Oh, they might've... I'm too lazy to google.

NBC probably would've had a better case had they not aired the segment at all. Or paid vigilante and police groups. Or just reported news rather than engineering it.

[striderhirryu2]

Embarassing pedophiles is news. Just look at this thread.

[skatalite]

Asshole is a compound word. Literacy counts, even on the internet.

Internet is capitalized.

Mad respect for you and all, but just sayin'... :rolleyes:

[timbox]

Internet is capitalized.

Mad respect for you and all, but just sayin'... :rolleyes:

Not if you do not recognize the authority of this american "internet."

[tlp0708]

Wow, this thread has devolved into correcting minor grammar errors. Are we completely done with the topic?