New Mutants # 1 Preview!

[Darkchylde]

Here it is (I hope I'm allowed to post links to other sites):

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=27252

Looks good. I'm getting more excited for this series as it gets closer to the release date.

[BugsySig]

I agree...but where is Xi'an on that cover?

[darknessatnoon]

That's pretty fantastic. I am reminded of Tildee from Astonishing #1. Creepy girls.

[wolvie616]

crazy illyana:biggrin:

[jarrod]

Ew. Not a fan of Shan's dye job. :/


Yana looks HOTT! I hope she's still fifteen. <3 <3

[yanapryde]

So are we pretty much all in agreement that the exchange taking place between Xi'an and whomever that girl is, is taking place in someone's mind?

[Darkchylde]

I guess those of us that speculated the little girl and young woman in the beginning were either Illyana/Kitty or Illyana/Moira were wrong, as the two characters are altogether different.

The page where Illyana emerges from her stepping disc, tattered eldritch armor, uniform and all and asks, "Did I make it?", has me curious to see what she's been up to since X-Infernus ended.

[yanapryde]

I guess those of us that speculated the little girl and young woman in the beginning were either Illyana/Kitty or Illyana/Moira were wrong, as the two characters are altogether different.

The page where Illyana emerges from her stepping disc, tattered eldritch armor, uniform and all and asks, "Did I make it?", has me curious to see what she's been up to since X-Infernus ended.

Curious indeed.
"Did I make it?" for what?
Is she simply tardy for some sort of meeting? Or maybe she was being timed?

[timbox]

Curious indeed.
"Did I make it?" for what?
Is she simply tardy for some sort of meeting? Or maybe she was being timed?

She's in a teleportation contest with Nightcrawler and Pixie. The loser has to go be on Xavier's team.

[Seres]

It appears that Magik has a drink problem.

[jarrod]

It appears that Magik has a drink problem.
I suspect Welsh influence....

[Phoenix]

This is really the first I've seen of anything. When I heard New Mutants was starting again I just assumed it was to take place in the past kinda like a "first class" Does anyone know who's in the cast?

[DiamondHart]

This is really the first I've seen of anything. When I heard New Mutants was starting again I just assumed it was to take place in the past kinda like a "first class" Does anyone know who's in the cast?

The New Mutants are the cast of the New Mutants book.

[Seres]

This is really the first I've seen of anything. When I heard New Mutants was starting again I just assumed it was to take place in the past kinda like a "first class" Does anyone know who's in the cast?

Pixie will feature prominently. There are also rumours that Dazzler will make a cameo appearance where she is unconscious.

[limerick]

Wow!Great art-really looking foward to this!

[The Blinkmeister]

I agree...but where is Xi'an on that cover?

More importantly, why is she scouting for pre-teen girls :eek: :wink:

[HeckBoy]

The original New Mutants came and went before I got into comics so I'm not nearly as enthusiastic about their comeback as other posters. I'll need to at least wait until I hear their mission statement/purpose before I can really decide on this.

[The Blinkmeister]

She's in a teleportation contest with Nightcrawler and Pixie. The loser has to go be on Xavier's team.

She had a run-in with Robin Hood and his marry men.

[jarrod]

There are also rumours that Dazzler will make a cameo appearance where she is unconscious.
Makes sense, the original New Mutants series dealt with that junkie too. We just need Lila and Guido to stop in too.

[The Lucky One]

So are we pretty much all in agreement that the exchange taking place between Xi'an and whomever that girl is, is taking place in someone's mind?

Yeah. My assumption is that it's in Legion's mind, and the little girl is one of the numerous unknown, lesser personalities. "They" might be the more dominant personalities like Jack Wayne, Jemail, or Cyndi. Not sure who/what personality that clawed hand was, though.

This is really the first I've seen of anything. When I heard New Mutants was starting again I just assumed it was to take place in the past kinda like a "first class" Does anyone know who's in the cast?

The cast that's been revealed so far is 2/3rds of the "classic" lineup: Cannonball, Dani Moonstar, Karma, Sunspot, Magik, and Magma. It's been strongly hinted that Warlock and Cypher may be coming back, Warlock from space and Cypher from death. The only character we know for a fact is NOT going to be in it is Wolfsbane, since she's in X-Force and only Wolverine can be on multiple teams.

The original New Mutants came and went before I got into comics so I'm not nearly as enthusiastic about their comeback as other posters. I'll need to at least wait until I hear their mission statement/purpose before I can really decide on this.

If it helps, I didn't get into comics until the early 90s, well after the New Mutants had ended, but in college I got interested in them and searched out the back issues. It was a great, great book back in the day, and the characters have excellent chemistry together. That's no guarantee that this book is going to be similarly great, of course, but here's hoping. :smile:

-D

[Ryan W]

Methinks that "Marci" = Legion (or one of his personalities).

Glad to see Karma flexing her telepathic muscles a little more (as per her story in X-men: manifest Destiny where Emma Frost urges her to do so in order to be more viable).

[Home made ectoplasm]

It looks great! I am going to revoke my tradewaiting vow and purchase the hell out of this.

ALSO - female characters that are not Emma Frost!

[lockerogue]

Can't wait to pick this up.

[Phoenix]

Yeah. My assumption is that it's in Legion's mind, and the little girl is one of the numerous unknown, lesser personalities. "They" might be the more dominant personalities like Jack Wayne, Jemail, or Cyndi. Not sure who/what personality that clawed hand was, though.



The cast that's been revealed so far is 2/3rds of the "classic" lineup: Cannonball, Dani Moonstar, Karma, Sunspot, Magik, and Magma. It's been strongly hinted that Warlock and Cypher may be coming back, Warlock from space and Cypher from death. The only character we know for a fact is NOT going to be in it is Wolfsbane, since she's in X-Force and only Wolverine can be on multiple teams.



If it helps, I didn't get into comics until the early 90s, well after the New Mutants had ended, but in college I got interested in them and searched out the back issues. It was a great, great book back in the day, and the characters have excellent chemistry together. That's no guarantee that this book is going to be similarly great, of course, but here's hoping. :smile:

-D


Thanks Drew~

I read somewhere briefly about Cypher, but then shrugged it off as the new Cipher from YXM. I would love to see this really happen! Bomb-diggity! I have a great way to bring him back.... Something I came up with a few years ago! Never really thought they'd touch Ramsey again! Here's hoping they do! It doesn't seem as big a deal bringing someone back from the dead when there are hardly any mutants left any longer!

[BulletSpeed]

I dont know how to feel about this book. On one hand I think its cool that New Mutants are back together and am interested to see what the overall mission on the book will be. On the other hand, Im of the party that New X-Men should have never been canceled and would rather see Nezhno, Mercury, Anole and the rest of that awesome cast continue thier journeys (under the scribe of K&Y and pincel of Mr. Young).

[darknessatnoon]

It looks great! I am going to revoke my tradewaiting vow and purchase the hell out of this.

ALSO - female characters that are not Emma Frost!

Emma has taken Karma in hand.

[Home made ectoplasm]

I dont know how to feel about this book. On one hand I think its cool that New Mutants are back together and am interested to see what the overall mission on the book will be. On the other hand, Im of the party that New X-Men should have never been canceled and would rather see Nezhno, Mercury, Anole and the rest of that awesome cast continue thier journeys (under the scribe of K&Y and pincel of Mr. Young).

It isn't either / or. Young X Men was killed because butthurt New X Men fans wouldn't STFU about the prior series. Lets not bring down New Mutants in a similar matter.

No offence BulletSpeed I'm sure you are great.

[jarrod]

Emma has taken Karma in hand.
And Claremont wasn't even the one to write it!

[BulletSpeed]

It isn't either / or. Young X Men was killed because butthurt New X Men fans wouldn't STFU about the prior series. Lets not bring down New Mutants in a similar matter.

No offence BulletSpeed I'm sure you are great.

None taken, its just the whole "why try to fix what wasnt broken" thing with me. The canned New, the tryed Young it sucked, now they are bring back New Mutants. I'm just like ok, what about the great characters that were built up just to be tossed to the side? And as much as I like Cannonball and Sunspot, I think the New X-Men squad outclasses the vets of New Mutants. Think about it Prodigy, Gentle, Surge, Hellion, Anole, Mercury, Dust and Pixie VS Cannonball, Sunspot, Magik, a depowered Dani, and probably Warlock and Cipher? (I left X-23 and Wolfsbane out of the equation, but included I think it makes it even more lopsided)

[Peter F.]

It isn't either / or. Young X Men was killed because butthurt New X Men fans wouldn't STFU about the prior series. Lets not bring down New Mutants in a similar matter.

No offence BulletSpeed I'm sure you are great.

No it was killed because it sucked and the sales reflected that.

[jarrod]

None taken, its just the whole "why try to fix what wasnt broken" thing with me. The canned New, the tryed Young it sucked, now they are bring back New Mutants. I'm just like ok, what about the great characters that were built up just to be tossed to the side? And as much as I like Cannonball and Sunspot, I think the New X-Men squad outclasses the vets of New Mutants. Think about it Prodigy, Gentle, Surge, Hellion, Anole, Mercury, Dust and Pixie VS Cannonball, Sunspot, Magik, a depowered Dani, and probably Warlock and Cipher? (I left X-23 and Wolfsbane out of the equation, but included I think it makes it even more lopsided)
New X-Men was killed to make way for X-Force. And while I wouldn't mind some of the better characters making their way to other titles (Dust, Rockslide, Anole, Hellion, Gentle, etc), no the don't even come close to touching the greatness of the core New Mutants. Hell, they're not even on level with the Gen X-ers imo.

[BulletSpeed]

So your telling me the core New Mutant team of Wolfsbane, Sunspot, Cannonball, Magik, Warlock, Karma, and a depowerd Mirage can see X-23, Hellion, Gentle, Rockslide, Dust, Surge, Prodigy, Anole, Pixie, and Elixer? Thats a stretch to me.

[Alex A Sanchez]

The only character we know for a fact is NOT going to be in it is Wolfsbane, since she's in X-Force and only Wolverine can be on multiple teams.



And Rictor, I hope (I like him where he's at). And Boom Boom, cuz she's recently dead.

[jarrod]

So your telling me the core New Mutant team of Wolfsbane, Sunspot, Cannonball, Magik, Warlock, Karma, and a depowerd Mirage can see X-23, Hellion, Gentle, Rockslide, Dust, Surge, Prodigy, Anole, Pixie, and Elixer? Thats a stretch to me.
Without question. The New Mutants is the best teen X-team EVER. Gen X is 2nd. NXM is 3rd. O5 4th.

[darknessatnoon]

So your telling me the core New Mutant team of Wolfsbane, Sunspot, Cannonball, Magik, Warlock, Karma, and a depowerd Mirage can see X-23, Hellion, Gentle, Rockslide, Dust, Surge, Prodigy, Anole, Pixie, and Elixer? Thats a stretch to me.

You are being ridiculous. Just stop embarrassing yourself.

[Peter F.]

Without question. The New Mutants is the best teen X-team EVER. Gen X is 2nd. NXM is 3rd. O5 4th.

O6, do you want to anger DN@N?

[Hi-Fi]

Gorgeous art.

[BulletSpeed]

I think this debate requires a poll of the masses!

[darknessatnoon]

O6, do you want to anger DN@N?

He angers me by posting at all.

[Home made ectoplasm]

Without question. The New Mutants is the best teen X-team EVER. Gen X is 2nd. NXM is 3rd. O5 4th.

Jarrod you are all sorts of right <3

EDIT Dn@N, ignore that post

[jarrod]

O6, do you want to anger DN@N?
Tessa was too good for the O5. Just like X-23 was too good the NXM.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Gorgeous art.

Illyana's NM uniform looks like crap.

I was hoping they'd go full retro with the old-school black and yellows.

[Firebaton]

Just read the preview, really excited!
I am wondering if the time difference between the Karma scene and the Magick scene have anything to do with Magick asking if she made it..

[Elayis]

When this was first announced, I though, "Great, just another X-Book that I'm not interested in."

I just started reading comics at the turn of the millenium, and don't generally like anything older than that, so I haven't read any of the back issues. And I don't like teen books that much. Like Doctor Strange said, "The "Young" in Young Avengers makes it sound like your apologizing."

However, this preview has me intrigued. The art wasn't as horrible as the preview page from NYCC made it out to be. And I am becoming a lot warmer to Zeb Wells writing. The first thing I ever read of his was the Obama Spidey Special, which was dreadful, so hearing that he was going to be on this was just another reason not to read this. However, after reading Dark Reign: Elektra, I can see that he has the necessary range to write this well.

The preview certainly has me wanting more. Not like I must read this, but I certainly want to see where this goes, and what the general flow of the book will be.

The only thing I didn't like about the preview was the colorist. I really do not like John Rauch's colors. Everything he does has a yellow tint to it, and his work seems to emulate D'Armata more and more each project he does.

I just hope the coloring doesn't kill what could be an otherwise great book for me.

[Hi-Fi]

Illyana's NM uniform looks like crap.

I was hoping they'd go full retro with the old-school black and yellows.
You should create a thread where you judge the characters fashion sense. For real. With "In" and "Out" sessions.

But seriously, Adrian Alphona should be the main designer to all Marvel characters. At least for their street clothes.

[Peter F.]

When this was first announced, I though, "Great, just another X-Book that I'm not interested in."

I just started reading comics at the turn of the millenium, and don't generally like anything older than that, so I haven't read any of the back issues. And I don't like teen books that much. Like Doctor Strange said, "The "Young" in Young Avengers makes it sound like your apologizing."


And the "New" in New Avengers, New Mutants and New Warriors doesn't?

[Pixie_Solanas]

You should create a thread where you judge the characters fashion sense. For real. With "In" and "Out" sessions.

But seriously, Adrian Alphona should be the main designer to all Marvel characters. At least for their street clothes.

I will need your sartorial input to help me with that.

And Alphona gets a pass simply for creating that awesome animal hat that Molly keeps wearing.

[SayOcean]

I dont understand why people are thinking the New Xmen could mop the floor with NM....really, the New Xmen arent even good enough to be rescued by the NM.

I dont have a problem with Karma's dye job but without her black hair she looks totally white, not even the hint of asian influence. But ill overlook that by going totally gay for Magik to be back in the present and on an xteam.
The girl that karma is after looks like the creepy kid from those comics a few years ago, anyone remember about the firefighters and the creepy guy holding his girlfriend and young girl hostage, but then the girl disappears....i think it was after 9/11

anyone know what im talking about

[The Lucky One]

I dont understand why people are thinking the New Xmen could mop the floor with NM...

I think part of it might depend on whether they mean from a story perspective or from an actual "who would win in a fight?" perspective. I can't comment fully on the fomer because I dropped K&Y's NXM after 10 issues or so, but if it's a fight, there's no contest. That's not a knock on the NXM, but the New Mutants were in a league of their own. Magma could create volcanoes the size of cities, Warlock could grow as tall as a skyscraper and was immune to most "regular" attacks, and if Magik teleported the combatants to Limbo, she could do pretty much anything she wanted, since her will was absolute there. In the days before and after Rachel left, the Muties were arguably more powerful than the X-Men.

-D

[NielsVanEekelen]

Ooooh, shiny!

So that's Shan? Really didn't see that coming, even less so in color.

Still, very cool--so Xi'an and Dani are already working together on something, and the team might reform around that case, interesting. Maybe they need to be rescued? I remember something about Sam being undisputed leader because Dani and Xi'an are indisposed at the start.

Nothing but glee about Illyana, of course

Also, I wonder if that is going to be the actual new logo...

Curious indeed.
"Did I make it?" for what?
Is she simply tardy for some sort of meeting? Or maybe she was being timed?

She's confused. She thinks she still has classes and is late for Magneto's Ethics test.

Pixie will feature prominently. There are also rumours that Dazzler will make a cameo appearance where she is unconscious.

Don't scare the potential new readers like that! We must encourage sales to make this volume outlast the first! (And without any Liefeld this time, preferably.)

So your telling me the core New Mutant team of Wolfsbane, Sunspot, Cannonball, Magik, Warlock, Karma, and a depowerd Mirage can see X-23, Hellion, Gentle, Rockslide, Dust, Surge, Prodigy, Anole, Pixie, and Elixer? Thats a stretch to me.

Oh, it is ON!

I love the New X-Men and think cancelling that book was a huge mistake... but they can't touch the New Mutants, either in awesomeness or in battle.

[wolvie616]

hey guess what?!

wolfsbane rules

[Peter F.]

I love the New X-Men and think cancelling that book was a huge mistake... but they can't touch the New Mutants, either in awesomeness or in battle.

Pixie could defeat all of the New Mutants alone now that her Soul Dagger has evolved.

And X-23 could finish whoever was left standing.

[Darkchylde]

Pixie could defeat all of the New Mutants alone now that her Soul Dagger has evolved.

And X-23 could finish whoever was left standing.

This is the kind of sense that doesn't make any.

Soulsword > soul dagger. Illyana didn't realize just how powerful her weapon was when she created the Soulsword. Demons and sorcerers alike, from Belasco to Doctor Doom, have coveted it. Pixie's soul dagger, on the other hand... turns her eyes black and makes her stab people.

[Phoenix]

Pixie could defeat all of the New Mutants alone now that her Soul Dagger has evolved.

And X-23 could finish whoever was left standing.

hmmm I'd strongly disagree with this. Just pure experiance on the New Mutants part leaves them at the top. And Illyana is around, she's a bad-ass alone, much less with her crew at her side. Pretty sure it's a losing battle for the new guys! There's more of a sense of family with the NM, even though the YXM have been through a lot of loss and what-not, years of team work and living together the NM have the upperhand!

[DeniseXfrost]

Art is fantastic. Loving Karma's new hair.

[Prodigy55]

You should create a thread where you judge the characters fashion sense. For real. With "In" and "Out" sessions.

But seriously, Adrian Alphona should be the main designer to all Marvel characters. At least for their street clothes.

I will need your sartorial input to help me with that.

And Alphona gets a pass simply for creating that awesome animal hat that Molly keeps wearing.

Yes!! Make. This. Happen.

[yanapryde]

Truth:
X-23 and Dust and Hellion are arguably the most dangerous of the New X-Men. But that is only if they had the chance to attack...

Karma and Magik would be able to easily incapacitate these three without breaking a sweat.

As for the remainder of the New X-Men (keep in mind that I love them too and was heart broken when their title was canceled, so don't get me wrong) the New Mutants would make quick work of them.

Its merely a matter of experience.

[Peter F.]

Truth:
X-23 and Dust and Hellion are arguably the most dangerous of the New X-Men. But that is only if they had the chance to attack...

Karma and Magik would be able to easily incapacitate these three without breaking a sweat.

As for the remainder of the New X-Men (keep in mind that I love them too and was heart broken when their title was canceled, so don't get me wrong) the New Mutants would make quick work of them.

Its merely a matter of experience.

Belasco wasn't able to incapacitate Mercury or Dust with magic, also it is difficult for psychics to affect Sooraya while she is in Sandstorm form. And Magik wasn't able to defeat Rockslide while he was made of Limbo Rock.

Wolfcub was able to defeat both Magma and Sunspot, X-23 is far more dangerous than Wolfcub, therefore X-23 could defeat those two.

All that the NXM would need to do in order to defeat Karma would be to lock her back into the laundry room or mention the Shadow King's name.

[lockerogue]

Belasco wasn't able to incapacitate Mercury or Dust with magic, also it is difficult for psychics to affect Sooraya while she is in Sandstorm form. And Magik wasn't able to defeat Rockslide while he was made of Limbo Rock.

Wolfcub was able to defeat both Magma and Sunspot, X-23 is far more dangerous than Wolfcub, therefore X-23 could defeat those two.

All that the NXM would need to do in order to defeat Karma would be to lock her back into the laundry room or mention the Shadow King's name.

Now you just sound like a rapid New X-Men fan. I loved the New X-Men but they would get their asses kicked by the New Mutants. You also have to take into account that some of the New Mutants trained these kids and know their weaknesses.

Remember Magma vs Dust?

[Peter F.]

You guys know that I am just kidding around right?

But X-23 could probably take Dani and Roberto out at least.

[SayOcean]

EDIT: for being toooo into New Mutants

sorry

[yanapryde]

You guys know that I am just kidding around right?

But X-23 could probably take Dani and Roberto out at least.

I like your avatar.
I want your avatar to date my avatar.

[NielsVanEekelen]

While I could keep arguing how the New Mutants could defeat the New X-Men (1, Karma could probably possess Dust, as she can possess Magik while even Xavier could never read her thoughts through her mental barriers; 2, Wolf Cub managed to get killed by Pierce, whom the New Mutants pwned in their very first team effort...), that's all kind of pointless.

Being the most powerful character doesn't make you interesting, or the Sentry would have a #1 selling solo book and Galactus would have a Wolverine amount of books.

The New Mutants have great personalities, great diversity, great powers, great visuals, great chemistry and great history. That is what made them, and hopefully will continue to make them great.

As I said, it's not that the New X-Men are lacking in greatness, but for me there's no comparison.

[Peter F.]

I like your avatar.
I want your avatar to date my avatar.

Your avatar is too old.

[Alphaxman]

While I could keep arguing how the New Mutants could defeat the New X-Men (1, Karma could probably possess Dust, as she can possess Magik while even Xavier could never read her thoughts through her mental barriers; 2, Wolf Cub managed to get killed by Pierce, whom the New Mutants pwned in their very first team effort...), that's all kind of pointless.

Being the most powerful character doesn't make you interesting, or the Sentry would have a #1 selling solo book and Galactus would have a Wolverine amount of books.

The New Mutants have great personalities, great diversity, great powers, great visuals, great chemistry and great history. That is what made them, and hopefully will continue to make them great.

As I said, it's not that the New X-Men are lacking in greatness, but for me there's no comparison.

I have to agree with you. The New X-Men would most likely beat the young New Mutants but they would get their ass handed to them if they battled the NM as they are now.

As for the preview, I think it looks pretty good. I just hope they fix X'ian hair color. And I hope she will look like a vietnamese woman and not a white girl with black hair.

[drwho]

not impressed with the preview. this issue looks like its going to be whats the word where you get 20 pages and hardly anything happens? Thats what it looks like.

[yanapryde]

not impressed with the preview. this issue looks like its going to be whats the word where you get 20 pages and hardly anything happens? Thats what it looks like.

Oh come on, it was 5 pages.
I'm sure it will all make sense in context with the remainder of the book.
And that scene with Magik falling from her stepping discs etc was beautiful.

[wanderlust565]

That was cool, the art was beautiful and I simply can't wait to get reacquainted with these characters
PS Magik is boss

[Pixie_Solanas]

I want to like this, I really do. I was a huge fan of the Claremont-Sienkiewicz run as a wee lad.

Not sold, yet - just based on the preview alone. Illyana has the goofiest facial expression in that splash page.

[drwho]

the first issue is worth buying just for the Alex Ross cover, but the story hmm. I am not sold from the preview.

[Push You Down]

I think it does make sense to have this team be a team, as they did train together for a long time, but I don't really care for them being "The New Mutants". I hope they are just referred to in-house as the New Mutants team but out in the world they are just another squad of X-men running around San Fran.

Also at this point folks like Sunspot and Cannonball have spent just as much time working with other teams as they have with their NM compatriots.

[the Hornet]

I think it does make sense to have this team be a team, as they did train together for a long time, but I don't really care for them being "The New Mutants". I hope they are just referred to in-house as the New Mutants team but out in the world they are just another squad of X-men running around San Fran.

Also at this point folks like Sunspot and Cannonball have spent just as much time working with other teams as they have with their NM compatriots.


I feel the same way. Also, Sam has gained much more experience in various field matters compared to the rest. I hope the writer recognizes this and does not revert him back to the old New Mutants Sam.

[yanapryde]

I want to like this, I really do. I was a huge fan of the Claremont-Sienkiewicz run as a wee lad.

Not sold, yet - just based on the preview alone. Illyana has the goofiest facial expression in that splash page.

Dirty Nay-sayer.

[The Lucky One]

I have to agree with you. The New X-Men would most likely beat the young New Mutants

There's no way. New Mutants now, it's not even a contest... but even back then, the Muties would almost have to come out on top. I don't know, maybe if you took every character who's ever been affiliated with the New X-Men, Hellions, or Young X-Men in some capacity; but if it's just the "main" New X-Men, they have no chance. I don't think any of them except Hellion could even harm Warlock... maybe Surge, although she'd be just as likely to recharge him. But Magma commands all earth, which includes Rockslide; Hellion is easy pickings for Karma (or Dani, frankly... love to know what Julian's greatest fear is); and after that it's just Dust. None of the rest can put up much of a fight. Again, not to disparage the NXM, the New Mutants were just really, really overpowered.

-D

[Elayis]

And the "New" in New Avengers, New Mutants and New Warriors doesn't?

Do the "New" Avengers ever call themselves that? Do the "Dark" Avengers ever call themselves that? It's just the name of the book.

And I don't like the New Mutants or the New Warriors.

[Nevets F]

There's no way. New Mutants now, it's not even a contest... but even back then, the Muties would almost have to come out on top. I don't know, maybe if you took every character who's ever been affiliated with the New X-Men, Hellions, or Young X-Men in some capacity; but if it's just the "main" New X-Men, they have no chance. I don't think any of them except Hellion could even harm Warlock... maybe Surge, although she'd be just as likely to recharge him. But Magma commands all earth, which includes Rockslide; Hellion is easy pickings for Karma (or Dani, frankly... love to know what Julian's greatest fear is); and after that it's just Dust. None of the rest can put up much of a fight. Again, not to disparage the NXM, the New Mutants were just really, really overpowered.

-D

I agree, there is no contest here. The New X-Men would have no chance of beating the New Mutants.

[Ratwedge]

Dani's pretty useless to even consider adding into a fight against the New X-Men, esp now she is depowered. Prodigy could deal with her while guiding the New X-Men to victory.

[The Lucky One]

And I don't like the New Mutants or the New Warriors.

Well dude... if you don't like good comics, no wonder you're looking for hope. Kind of a no-brainer. :wink:

-D

[SayOcean]

Dani's pretty useless to even consider adding into a fight against the New X-Men, esp now she is depowered. Prodigy could deal with her while guiding the New X-Men to victory.prodigy would get his black a$$ whupped Dani is a Cheyenne she grew up fighting. the NXM fans are just trying to suck this book down

[Nevets F]

prodigy would get his black a$$ whupped Dani is a Cheyenne she grew up fighting. the NXM fans are just trying to suck this book down

Sadly, they generally do that.

[Ratwedge]

prodigy would get his black a$$ whupped Dani is a Cheyenne she grew up fighting. the NXM fans are just trying to suck this book down

I see you fail to understand why Prodigy would be able to beat her.

[Peter F.]

There's no way. New Mutants now, it's not even a contest... but even back then, the Muties would almost have to come out on top. I don't know, maybe if you took every character who's ever been affiliated with the New X-Men, Hellions, or Young X-Men in some capacity; but if it's just the "main" New X-Men, they have no chance. I don't think any of them except Hellion could even harm Warlock... maybe Surge, although she'd be just as likely to recharge him. But Magma commands all earth, which includes Rockslide; Hellion is easy pickings for Karma (or Dani, frankly... love to know what Julian's greatest fear is); and after that it's just Dust. None of the rest can put up much of a fight. Again, not to disparage the NXM, the New Mutants were just really, really overpowered.

-D

I didn't want to get back into this but I'm bored and I think it could be a good fight. I personally think that it would not be one sided either way really.

I personally think that Rockslide vs. Magma would really depend on who can last longer. When she takes control of his body he would just need to blow up and move onto another pile of rocks. Eventually he may be able to lay a super strong punch on her.

And you're completely ignoring Mercury, she was great in the fight against Belasco and eventually she managed to make herself useful against Witchfire, Anti-magic armor that can strike out on its own. She's like if T-1000 and Reed Richards had a baby. I'm not saying she could take someone as powerful as Warlock but she could be useful against the rest of the New Mutants.

But you're right, the NXM don't have anyone with any resistance to psychics aside from Dust in sandstorm form, so Dani and Shan could probably destroy them. Or anyone who can realistically take on Warlock. So those three along with Amara and Illyana could probably take the fight, though if they worked together with a good plan from Prodigy, the NXM might be able to take those two down. And the New X-men could reasonably take Doug, Rahne, Roberto, and Sam.

[Peter F.]

prodigy would get his black a$$ whupped Dani is a Cheyenne she grew up fighting. the NXM fans are just trying to suck this book down

Prodigy has all of her fighting skills as well as Wolverine's and Shadowcat's. He can take her. As long as she doesn't have any of her powers.

[Prodigy55]

Can we not argue about this? This is bordering Rumble's levels of suck.

[david r]

The preview looked okay. A bit too decompressed. I'll definitely buy the first issue.

[$5 Milkshake]

The preview looked okay. A bit too decompressed. I'll definitely buy the first issue.

Oh "Decompressed"! Its everyone's new favorite word. I think a 5 page preview may be too early to invoke that mantra :wink:

[Ratwedge]

Oh "Decompressed"! Its everyone's new favorite word. I think a 5 page preview may be too early to invoke that mantra :wink:

In his defense they were pretty "decompressed" and could have been handled in two pages but since its a preview i think its sweet as and cant wait to see the rest.

[Fixx]

I cant wait!!!

I'm sitting in the biggest puddle of panty soup after seeing that!!!
so worth losing Young X-Men for that!!!!

[drwho]

I personally think it would have been better as a hybrid team book starring. I just dont feel like Warlock fits in anymore.

Dani
Karma
Cannonball
Sunspot
Magma
Dust
Rockslide
Mercury
Hellion

Prodigy and Blindfold used as supporting characters.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

I personally think it would have been better as a hybrid team book starring. I just dont feel like Warlock fits in anymore.

Any specific reasons?

[Darkchylde]

[QUOTE=drwho;8762762]I personally think it would have been better as a hybrid team book starring. I just dont feel like Warlock fits in anymore.QUOTE]

If anything, Warlock fits in this book because of his experiences with Nova, Tyro, and the Phalanx recently (see: Nova, Annihilation: Conquest). He displayed a maturity and a been-around-the-block sensibility that was lacking in the original series (as he was little more than a juvenile himself back then, and an alien to boot).

Warlock would be a welcome addition to the book, whose characters have all grown up over the years and are not the same children they were when they first entered Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters.

[The Black Guardian]

I personally think it would have been better as a hybrid team book starring. I just dont feel like Warlock fits in anymore.
Warlock needs to return to take care of all the techno-feces in X-Force. And yes, as Darkchylde says, he's grown up just like the other New Mutants have.

But being an extreme fan of both NM and NXM, I agree with your hybrid idea. Enough with all the hate.

[Aguja]

The art is wonderful.

But the continued attempts to erase Xi'an's Asian features are troubling.

[NielsVanEekelen]

I personally think it would have been better as a hybrid team book starring. I just dont feel like Warlock fits in anymore.

Dani
Karma
Cannonball
Sunspot
Magma
Dust
Rockslide
Mercury
Hellion

Prodigy and Blindfold used as supporting characters.

Of all the X-Men titles, why would the New X-Men characters show up in this one? Is there any reason beyond the fact that this has "New" in the title?

The New Mutants is, character-wise, about a group of old friends reuniting--basically, it would make less sense to have the younger generation on this team than it would on any of the other teams.


Warlock has indeed grown up, and he was pretty cool in Nova/Conquest, but I do feel that made it make less sense for him to come join a team of mutants on Earth--he has bigger things on his mind, like saving his species, that he was putting before his own wishes. I'm hoping for a storyarc surrounding Warlock, but not a place on the team for him.

[The Black Guardian]

Warlock has indeed grown up, and he was pretty cool in Nova/Conquest, but I do feel that made it make less sense for him to come join a team of mutants on Earth--he has bigger things on his mind, like saving his species, that he was putting before his own wishes. I'm hoping for a storyarc surrounding Warlock, but not a place on the team for him.
IIRC, Warlock's not that concerned with saving the Technarchs. He's trying to fix the damage caused by the Technarchs, and Earth is still dealing with that. Of all places, he should probably be on Earth and with the mutants more than anything else.

[NielsVanEekelen]

IIRC, Warlock's not that concerned with saving the Technarchs. He's trying to fix the damage caused by the Technarchs, and Earth is still dealing with that. Of all places, he should probably be on Earth and with the mutants more than anything else.

Hm, that's a good point, actually. Didn't consider that because the techno-organic stuff is so confined to X-Force, but that would be logical and could give a pretty damn good story. Maybe an X-Force crossover, so we could get in some interaction with Rahne! (I can't believe I'm encouraging Marvel to have crossovers now. But if it's between two books I read anyway...)

[DrDoom616]

I can't wait for this book, a few weeks left, yay.

I personally do not want to see any other people on the team other than the core team just yet.

I was a fan of New X-men and cannot for the life of me fathom why they cancelled it and gave us the Young X-Men tripe that they did, gladly it didn't last long, and now we get the return of my favourite X-men spin-off ever.

Lets just hope they never ever ever EVER bring back Birdboy though!

[worstblogever]

Ew. Not a fan of Shan's dye job. :/


Yana looks HOTT! I hope she's still fifteen. <3 <3

Shan's pink hair would cause too much controversy if she brought the look back, I guess.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

So what's going on with Illyana? Thats written as if she's just returned from a long absence. But she's back with the X-Men as of the end of X-Infernus, right?

[worstblogever]

So what's going on with Illyana? Thats written as if she's just returned from a long absence. But she's back with the X-Men as of the end of X-Infernus, right?

Give the man a cigar. She almost took off on them, but accepted their offer to stay.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Give the man a cigar. She almost took off on them, but accepted their offer to stay.

Indeed. I don't think she's actually appeared in panel since. But this does give me the wonderings of a continuity error...

[worstblogever]

Indeed. I don't think she's actually appeared in panel since. But this does give me the wonderings of a continuity error...

Eh, there's no telling when, compared to Uncanny, the X-Infernus arc actually begins. It'd have to be after the last Uncanny arc, though, since Pixie was in her bitchin' T-shirt eating cereal with Armor.

[Twisted Bliss]

So what's going on with Illyana? Thats written as if she's just returned from a long absence. But she's back with the X-Men as of the end of X-Infernus, right?

Not necessarily. Her comments could be alluding to her having the ability to teleport through time. Or that Limbo is revolting against her again (Pun not intended.) Or the fact that this could be some simulation/training with Dani firing arrows at her (lacking mutant powers)

All just lots of big messy wet guesses

[Deathstroke]

Bah...I am not looking at previews of the book.

I'm holding out until I can have the issue in my greedy really excited for the return of this series hands.

[The Lucky One]

I personally think it would have been better as a hybrid team book starring. I just dont feel like Warlock fits in anymore.

Dani
Karma
Cannonball
Sunspot
Magma
Dust
Rockslide
Mercury
Hellion

Prodigy and Blindfold used as supporting characters.

They've tried that. Twice now, actually, if you count New Mutants (volume 2) and Young X-Men. I would imagine Marvel's thinking, and I don't necessarily disagree with them, is that neither New Mutants nor NXM fans are going to be satisfied with "sharing" a book. New Mutants fans will feel like their characters are stuck babysitting and being mentors rather than going on their own adventures, and NXM fans will wonder why these old twenty-somethings are taking team slots away from their characters.

In the real world, can young adults be good mentors to teenagers? Absolutely, sometimes they're the best. But I'm tired of seeing Dani as a mentor. Over the last six years I've seen her mentoring a squad, counseling kids at the Initiative, and being a teacher to the Young X-Men. I'm ready to see her kicking ass again, and I'd wager I'm not alone.

-D

[The Lucky One]

IIRC, Warlock's not that concerned with saving the Technarchs. He's trying to fix the damage caused by the Technarchs, and Earth is still dealing with that. Of all places, he should probably be on Earth and with the mutants more than anything else.

Well, in Louise Simonson's Warlock series, his stated mission is that since he was the one to bring the techno-organic virus to Earth (not counting the entirely different t-o stuff Apocalypse got from the Celestials, I guess), he bore the responsibility for wiping out all traces of it. The series ended before he could do that, then in his next appearance in that Nova arc, he had returned to Kvch and was attempting to change Technarch society by introducing his mutant strain of the transmode virus, which allows for peaceful living instead of parent/child deathmatches.

Two different purposes, but one could argue that if he still cares about the first one, that could be what draws him back to Earth. :smile:

-D

[Dagger]

<3<3 Who put the road kill on Shan's head?<3<3

[worstblogever]

<3<3 Who put the road kill on Shan's head?<3<3

She does look more like William "Shan"ter.

[Dagger]

She does look more like William "Shan"ter.
LOL. I was thinking she went to where ever The Donald goes to get his hair did.

[DrDoom616]

I actually like it :tongue:

[NielsVanEekelen]

Indeed. I don't think she's actually appeared in panel since. But this does give me the wonderings of a continuity error...

Let's give the story more than that one line she spoke before calling continuity error, okay? There's a million ways this could be perfectly continuity correct.

They've tried that. Twice now, actually, if you count New Mutants (volume 2) and Young X-Men. I would imagine Marvel's thinking, and I don't necessarily disagree with them, is that neither New Mutants nor NXM fans are going to be satisfied with "sharing" a book. New Mutants fans will feel like their characters are stuck babysitting and being mentors rather than going on their own adventures, and NXM fans will wonder why these old twenty-somethings are taking team slots away from their characters.

In the real world, can young adults be good mentors to teenagers? Absolutely, sometimes they're the best. But I'm tired of seeing Dani as a mentor. Over the last six years I've seen her mentoring a squad, counseling kids at the Initiative, and being a teacher to the Young X-Men. I'm ready to see her kicking ass again, and I'd wager I'm not alone.

-D

I very much agree with this sentiment.

Although I have to say that Dani's role in Initiative has been the best part of that book--particularly Gyrich's reaction. :biggrin:

[Twisted Bliss]

<3<3 Who put the road kill on Shan's head?<3<3

She does look more like William "Shan"ter.

LOL. I was thinking she went to where ever The Donald goes to get his hair did.

Hey !! No laughing at Shan.

That do is 'the Mactaggart' and its smoking hot. (looks better on the plus sized ladies)

[worstblogever]

Hey !! No laughing at Shan.

That do is 'the Mactaggart' and its smoking hot. (looks better on the plus sized ladies)

Sorry, I wonder if Shan is getting makeovers from Ma Guthrie and her 80 bajillion hair colors and age reversals. Ma does hair, doesn't she?

[jarrod]

Shan's pink hair would cause too much controversy if she brought the look back, I guess.
I fear Dazzler has ruined the look for all X-lesbos. :frown:

[Twisted Bliss]

I fear Dazzler has ruined the look for all X-lesbos. :frown:

Her failed attempt at bringing chaps back for easy lesbo hand access backfired too

[Dagger]

Hey !! No laughing at Shan.

That do is 'the Mactaggart' and its smoking hot. (looks better on the plus sized ladies)
LOL. Moira's coif was always the hottest hair in Belfast.

I do love the continuity they're doing with Shan constantly wearing a headband lately. She's always had to overcome follicle problems.
http://www.comicbookreligion.com/cr/NewMutants/coverdetail/NewMutants_Detail_GN.jpg

Look at the pretty pretty that I found!
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/181219-197778-new-mutants_super.jpg

[jarrod]

Her failed attempt at Chaps for easy access backfired too
She did what on Wisdom?! "Backfired" is a euphemism right?

[Twisted Bliss]

She did what on Wisdom?! "Backfired" is a euphemism right?

Hey. Kitty was getting jiggy with metal implements, so he tried to slip Daz a hot knife.

You pull those joy beads out unexpectedly to get access and follow through is bound to happen.

Stupid Black Air lack of douche training....

[worstblogever]

Hey. Kitty was getting jiggy with metal implements, so he tried to slip Daz a hot knife.

You pull those joy beads out unexpectedly to get access and follow through is bound to happen.

Stupid Black Air lack of douche training....

That explains why Ali was wearing just a shirt, that she was pulling down. It wasn't just shame, it was the fact that she was singed.

It all makes sense now.

[jarrod]

Hey. Kitty was getting jiggy with metal implements, so he tried to slip Daz a hot knife.

You pull those joy beads out unexpectedly to get access and follow through is bound to happen.

Stupid Black Air lack of douche training....
I'm sure Pete didn't mind, he's freaky like that. In fact, I wouldn't doubt he asked for a "Black Air" on his chest.

[Twisted Bliss]

I'm sure Pete didn't mind, he's freaky like that. In fact, I wouldn't doubt he asked for a "Black Air" on his chest.

I thought that was T'Challa's kink where he got Storm to crouch over his chest and fart ?

I clearly need to update my slang. I thought a hot knife was hash on a knife heated so the naughty people could enhale the fumes.

[jarrod]

I thought that was T'Challa's kink where he got Storm to crouch over his chest and fart ?
I don't think 'Ro gives T'Challa any choice honestly. Storm does whatever he wants. :frown:

[Bolebeau]

LOL. Moira's coif was always the hottest hair in Belfast.

Look at the pretty pretty that I found!
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/181219-197778-new-mutants_super.jpg

It's the New Abstract Mutants! Despite many parts of it freaking me out (Sam's monster-hand, Dani Moonstar looking more like Man-y Moonstar), it is rather pretty.

[Twisted Bliss]

I don't think 'Ro gives T'Challa any choice honestly. Storm does whatever he wants. :frown:

Maybe its the other way around. Maybe T'Challa guffs on her chest.

Gives new meaning to the name 'Wind-rider'

[Dagger]

It's the New Abstract Mutants! Despite many parts of it freaking me out (Sam's monster-hand, Dani Moonstar looking more like Man-y Moonstar), it is rather pretty.
Bill Seink muties are perfection imo. I loved all the crazy things he did with his art in that run.

[jarrod]

Maybe its the other way around. Maybe T'Challa guffs on her chest.

Gives new meaning to the name 'Wind-rider'
I am sure that's true. Ororo strikes me as a lazy top.

[KrullWall]

I am pumped for this. I dont know if i like the new hair.
Also the art is GOOOD!

[Nubian]

Ew. Not a fan of Shan's dye job. :/


Yana looks HOTT! I hope she's still fifteen. <3 <3

Your eagerness at hoping a fictional character that you consider "hot" is fifteen is very disturbing.

[jarrod]

Your eagerness at hoping a fictional character that you consider "hot" is fifteen is very disturbing.
You're in the wrong thread, we have a discussion already dedicated to this.

[MartinRedmond]

Look at the pretty pretty that I found!
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/181219-197778-new-mutants_super.jpg

It's from an UXM Unlimited book. The second parter is by Paul Smith. I'm not crazy about the Bill S part. The story, by CC♥ , is just okay:"Rhanne goes to the museum and one of her memorabilia is stolen, the NM fight robots to get it back."

[SayOcean]

I liked shans hair....especially when they were under magneto's tutelage...it was awesome, but i dont see the need to change it. I mean shouldnt her and Dani have almost the same kinda hair

[lockerogue]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8669/214802-168328-karma_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8669/214801-25956-karma_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/1202/92524-94594-karma_super.jpg

[Fatguy]

I'm hoping this series will turn me into a big Sunspot and Magma fan.

[SayOcean]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8669/214802-168328-karma_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8669/214801-25956-karma_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/1202/92524-94594-karma_super.jpgchinky fierce