Who would you like to see join the M:13 team ??

[Leogam]

Which International Heroes would you like to see join Captain Britain in the M:13 (a.k.a Avengers International) team ?? This is a "Dream Team" senario mind you. Since Captain Britain is the defender of the United Kingdom consisting of four countries: England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales

My choices

Psylocke (England)
Meggan (Wales)
Banshee/ Siryn or Feron (Ireland)
Northstar (France)
Thor or Thunderstrike (Scandonavian)
Black Panther (Africa)
Sersi (Greece)
Sabra (Israel)
Arabian Knight (Saudi Arabia)
Black Widow, or Darkstar (Russia)
Topaz (India)
Sunfire (Japan)

[celticguy]

Shamrock her powers fit the team.

[Ghost Shark]

Adding in a bunch of international heroes would dilute it, I think.

That being said, I hope they bring Meggan back and I would be one happy Bamf if Nightcrawler were able to join up back in his original costume.

[TJKernan]

Colonel Tigon Liger and Misha from Warheads.

[Peter F.]

Psylocke, Tink, Meggan, Nightcrawler, Chamber, Tangerine. There are more.

The Sword is Drawn can probably think of a ton.

[TJKernan]

Dark Angel would be a huge asset, and his Mystical-tech powers would come in handy against all them demons and monsters.

Killpower and Motormouth would be fun.

Princess Xan Al' Hhffrrnnr Kzznr Fthgnr (Xantia) would be cool also. Hot chick to join team with some blades!

[Tobias March]

Tangerine!!!

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

Fantomex.


(He was born and raised in Britain)

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Which International Heroes would you like to see join Captain Britain in the M:13 (a.k.a Avengers International) team ??

Well, adding an international cast to work for the British Government would seem a little bid odd. Why would a central European based hero be working with British military intelligence, as opposed to the equivalent agency of their own Country of origin? You'd need a pretty strong reason for their inclusion.

Psylocke (England)
Meggan (Wales)

What exactly makes Meggan Welsh?

Colonel Tigon Liger and Misha from Warheads.

That would be cool. Two characters whose whereabouts I've been wondering about for far too long.

D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;8756933']Fantomex.


(He was born and raised in Britain)

You beat me to it. I know that I might be in a minority here, but I'm a Fantomex fan. I doubt you'd get him working for MI13 full time, but he'd be a great guest star for a specific story.

I personally would love to see Psylocke finally come back to the book which spawned her, and stop wasting time in the background of the X-men.

I'd also love to see Nightcrawler back in Britain. He has ties through Brian and and Alistaire Stuart. Not sure he'd be so pleased to see Wisdom, but all the same...:biggrin:

But most of all I want to see Meggan back. She's been away too long.

British Generation Xer Chamber is another I'd like to see. Wisdom was even following up on him in New Excalibur. And Dark Angel was known to both Brian and Psylocke. She's got cosmic level powers and cyberpunk styling. That win/win to me.

[lobsterj]

Lionheart and Kylun.

[lobsterj]

I figured in addition the the real and fake Ebony Blades, Excalibur, and Blade's array of swords, the group could use the twin blades of ZZ'ria and the Sword of Might.

[Aelle3]

Yeah apart from the obvious and usual ones like Psylocke, Meggan and Nightcrawler, id like to have a few more non English cast members. Kylun is a good one, maybe red dragon could be released from prison in exchange for some hero work. Id like to see another Northern Irish character on the team, maybe Killraven (although a little young, cant think of anyone else).

[Loki]

Yeah apart from the obvious and usual ones like Psylocke, Meggan and Nightcrawler, id like to have a few more non English cast members. Kylun is a good one, maybe red dragon could be released from prison in exchange for some hero work. Id like to see another Northern Irish character on the team, maybe Killraven (although a little young, cant think of anyone else).

The modern day Feron is Northern Irish. It has to be said, there's not a whole lot of choice when it comes to Northern Irish characters. Wales doesn't fair much better, though you've got a couple. There's a small but not insignificant number of Scottish and North of England characters, but the majority of British characters are still from the South of England - a symptom of many past writers seemingly unaware there was anything outside of London.

Still, Britain's doing better than most of the rest of Europe. You could take the combined superhumans of all the other European countries (so long as you don't stretch the definition to include Russia), and Britain would still have more. A lot of that is because there's been ongoing series set in the UK, which can't be said of anywhere else in Europe.

[Comet Man]

I'd love to see Shamrock join the team, or at least make occasional guest appearances.

[Loki]

I'd love to see Shamrock join the team, or at least make occasional guest appearances.

I can see her guesting, but it'd be a real stretch to have her joining the team.

[Jimmy Holograph]

I'd like to see Union Jack join up full time, even though Blade pretty much has the same niche in the team already. Jack has always been the most interesting British hero to me.

[celticguy]

I can see her guesting, but it'd be a real stretch to have her joining the team.


Not really a few lines about facing common threats yadda yadda yadd boom there she is.

Oh and wolverine he needs to expand his operations.

[Westgarth J]

Well, adding an international cast to work for the British Government would seem a little bid odd. Why would a central European based hero be working with British military intelligence, as opposed to the equivalent agency of their own Country of origin? You'd need a pretty strong reason for their inclusion.

Because comics that's why.

A few contenders off the top of my head would be Motormouth, Death's Head 1 or 2 (time travel/alternate timeline/alternate reality/comics), Super Soldier, Digitek, Albion, Jackdaw.

[Tracks]

Not really a few lines about facing common threats yadda yadda yadd boom there she is.

Oh and wolverine he needs to expand his operations.

he and deadpool are the only character i would really not want on this team. wolverine is a part of nearly every other marvel team and has enough books, maybe he can guest star with one of his other teams, but full-time? definitely not.

I'd love to see fantomex would fit very well, I have two of his appearances from weapon x, just off that I like the character.

nightcrawler would be sick too, bu I don't see it happening.

[Dermie]

Union Jack and Lionheart (Kelsey). Actually, I don't necessarily need Lionheart to join full time, but I'd like to see her show up occassionally.

[Tracks]

i want a blade/union jack rematch before he joins the team haha

[Loki]

Not really a few lines about facing common threats yadda yadda yadd boom there she is.


Like I said, I can see her guesting - and that would be cases like helping them with the occasional mission against common threats. But I can't see her out and out joining - past wounds between the UK and the Republic of Ireland have healed a lot, but not so much that I believe she'd feel comfortable working full-time for British intelligence. A regular, non-government affiliated British team - not a problem. British intelligence? A little too close to the bone.

[pharoahe22]

Fantomex.
Union Jack ( as a full-time member getting plenty of panel time)
Lionheart
Meggan

[Aelle3]

Im not sure if its even gone down on any page like Civil War Battle Damage Report but I sure the Republic of Ireland had its own version of the superhuman registration act. And much like the UK, has a government sponsored team or something along those lines. I think its much more likely that any Irish characters would make guest appearances rather than join a British Military team.

I like to think that otherworld and general magical threats that effect the UK would affect the republic so perhaps you could have a team up at some stage.

[protege]

Which International Heroes would you like to see join Captain Britain in the M:13 (a.k.a Avengers International) team ?? This is a "Dream Team" senario mind you. Since Captain Britain is the defender of the United Kingdom consisting of four countries: England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales

My choices

Psylocke (England)
Meggan (Wales)
Banshee/ Siryn or Feron (Ireland)
Northstar (France)
Thor or Thunderstrike (Scandonavian)
Black Panther (Africa)
Sersi (Greece)
Sabra (Israel)
Arabian Knight (Saudi Arabia)
Black Widow, or Darkstar (Russia)
Topaz (India)
Sunfire (Japan)

I like most of your choices, but who are Feron and Topaz? and don't forget Le Peregrine, and Blitzkreig.

[Loki]

Im not sure if its even gone down on any page like Civil War Battle Damage Report but I sure the Republic of Ireland had its own version of the superhuman registration act. And much like the UK, has a government sponsored team or something along those lines. I think its much more likely that any Irish characters would make guest appearances rather than join a British Military team.

Ireland has it's own team - the Kinsmen. Paul knows about them, but I doubt he'd want to use them - they are embarrasingly stereotypical, right down to having a Leprechaun member. That's not to say Paul wouldn't use Irish characters - I just seriously doubt he'd use those ones, at least, not without a serious team overhaul.

I like to think that otherworld and general magical threats that effect the UK would affect the republic so perhaps you could have a team up at some stage.
It's entirely likely the magical side of things doesn't recognise political boundaries, so yes, I could see any magical threat that hits Northern Ireland hitting the Republic too, which would be cause for a team-up.

[Sighphi]

Shamrock her powers fit the team.

WORD!




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[Tracks]

I'm not sure the team needs anymore members right now, every position seems occupied, they're a pretty solid team.

[Aelle3]

Thanks Loki for the info, not really seen them before. But I agree with you I’m sure with characters like wee one it is unlikely Paul will use the kinsmen.

[BugsySig]

I agree with The Sword is Drawn: Psylocke, Nightcrawler, Megan and Chamber would all be good additions.

How about Shang-Chi? He's worked for InterPol before, spent plenty of time in England and has experience with espionage and the supernatural. Plus he appeared back in the Wisdom series a few years ago.I think he'd be a great fit and bring something different to the squad.

[JdRavnos]

I personally feel that anyone in MI-13 should either be British or at least have strong ties to Britain (like Dane). I'd probably be willing to let someone like Shamrock slide if there was a good excuse to go along with it. But then again, I'd be a little hesistant to include Shamrock in just about anything to begin with, just because I've never seen anything particularly interesting done with her character.

Lionhart should at least make an appearance in the book, as I think she's a really interesting character that just needs a great story underneather her belt to really sell her to the readers.

Union Jack, as said, his schtick is largely covered by Blade being on the team, but he should remain a reoccuring character. He's just too cool to be left entirely on the sidelines.

Fantomex I think would be fun just because he's such an oddball choice and I think Cornell could do a lot with him.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Lionheart and Kylun.

Lionheart would be interesting. I really disliked the way Claremont brought her back for New Excalibur only to sideline her and ignore the character's history. I mean by her origin story revealing her identity to her children in the final issue should have resulted in their death.

I've also been wanting to see somebody reinvent Kylun for quite some time.

Yeah apart from the obvious and usual ones like Psylocke, Meggan and Nightcrawler, id like to have a few more non English cast members. Kylun is a good one, maybe red dragon could be released from prison in exchange for some hero work.

He was apparently on the team, in an earlier development stage. I could see him coming onto the squad if there was a specific threat to Wales to bring him in. He is quite a powerhouse, and he'd certainly be handy.

Id like to see another Northern Irish character on the team, maybe Killraven (although a little young, cant think of anyone else).

I would certainly like to see the Young Killraven plot picked up on at some point. Maybe bring Shang-Chi on board?

I'd love to see Shamrock join the team, or at least make occasional guest appearances.

A logical guest appearance would be great.

I'd like to see Union Jack join up full time, even though Blade pretty much has the same niche in the team already. Jack has always been the most interesting British hero to me.

I think it would be interesting to have him there. This story could well be the catalyst. Brian remains the boldest British hero but Union Jack has such a wealth of legacy history which I'd love to see explored on an ongoing title.

Because comics that's why.

That's not an acceptable argument these days, though. Probably the key reason that the previous two Excalibur titles failed was down to throwing in characters who didn't belong there, without a convincing explanation.

A few contenders off the top of my head would be Motormouth, Death's Head 1 or 2 (time travel/alternate timeline/alternate reality/comics),

I would kill to see either Death's Head show up. Although part of me hopes we hold out a while and Abnett and Lanning bring back DH2 via their Nova run. They've sewn the seeds with Evelyn Necker, and the Minion Project getting the Worldmind's database. They've even shown that Necker is working for A.I.M. All it needs is for the next step to be taken...

Super Soldier,

Joseph Hauer was shown looking over the British SHRA, with others, in Civil War: Battle Damage report. It would be great to see him acknowledged in panel again. Presumably he's known to MI13.

Digitek, Albion,

Digitek has near endless potential. Don't let that supposed suicide during Civil War fool you. Digitek doubtless stores back ups of himself on other computer servers out there.

Albion though might be more difficulty. The name kind of got passed to another character during New Excalibur. Which was a shame. Peter Hunter was a great character. The hero of WW1.

Jackdaw.

I dunno. Some characters become more iconic by being dead. I think Jackdaw is one of those.

[Aelle3]

I've also been wanting to see somebody reinvent Kylun for quite some time.


Yeah, Kylun was always so strange, id like him to have really settled down, and be doing something completely mundane. With his power set perhaps working in Edinburgh as a foley artist, or a one man jazz band (although both of those move away from mundane).

[Tracks]

im not sure where all of these characters would fit, theyve got pretty much everything occupied...I dunno where anyone else would fit in. THe best suggestion I think has been fantomex since he hasn't been used in a while and he'd fit but what could he add to the team?

[The Sword Is Drawn]

im not sure where all of these characters would fit, theyve got pretty much everything occupied...I dunno where anyone else would fit in.

Well, we know we're losing one cast member shortly...

[Ryan W]

Lionheart would be great to see again.

But I'd really like to see Allison Double or Shamrock in supporting roles.

[Tracks]

forgot about that I like the team right now...and as of now I really can't tell who's going to be taken out. But if we lose blade or black knight (which i reall yhope doesnt happen) then I'd definitely want fantomex there to pick up that spot. i dunno who could replace wisdom or faiza

[Nevets F]

I would like to see Kylun, Lionheart, Feron, Dark Angel, Meggan, and Tangerine.

[Leogam]

Well, adding an international cast to work for the British Government would seem a little bid odd. Why would a central European based hero be working with British military intelligence, as opposed to the equivalent agency of their own Country of origin? You'd need a pretty strong reason for their inclusion.

What exactly makes Meggan Welsh?

My mistake her parents were traveling Romani People (Gypsies) from Russia

"In search of her heritage Brian and Meggan went to Russia. During the couples first kiss Meggan turned took on a reptilian appearance. The witch Baba Yaga had possessed her and tried to make her kill her love. Meggan was able to defeat her by looking inside herself and remembering ancient spells. While they were traveling, Brian's sister Betsy had taken up the Captain Britain mantle. They retired to the lighthouse until Betsey was critically injured and Brian once again took up the Captain Britain mantle."

[artiepants]

Micromax ~ doesn't he already work for MI#??? I always thought he was a cool character but never really saw him developed much. Plus, with him and Captain Britian and Black Knight you get more of an "Avengers" flavor to the team.

[Tracks]

blade has a little animosity towards him after vanguard I think.

[Loki]

blade has a little animosity towards him after vanguard I think.

Actually, Blade was quite forgiving about the situation - Micromax expected Blade to be mad and seek some retribution, but Blade's attitude was that he understood why Micromax did what he did (betrayed the team because terrorists threatened to kill his niece), what was done was done, and they had more important priorities, such as staying away from Vanguard's retribution.

[AdamYJ]

I'd like to see Union Jack join up full time, even though Blade pretty much has the same niche in the team already. Jack has always been the most interesting British hero to me.

Didn't they change Jack's schtick in his miniseries? Instead of being the "vampire killing guy", he's the "Working class British hero guy".

[Tracks]

Actually, Blade was quite forgiving about the situation - Micromax expected Blade to be mad and seek some retribution, but Blade's attitude was that he understood why Micromax did what he did (betrayed the team because terrorists threatened to kill his niece), what was done was done, and they had more important priorities, such as staying away from Vanguard's retribution.

i dont remember much, just blade almost killing micromax with a throwing knife then interrogating him, has micromax made an appearance since then?

[BeastieRunner]

Meggan Braddock, Union Jack, and Nightcrawler

[Loki]

i dont remember much, just blade almost killing micromax with a throwing knife then interrogating him, has micromax made an appearance since then?

Not since, no. Blade wasn't happy when he first found out about the betrayal, but by the end of the story he seemed to have put any anger he had aside. Like I said, he got why Micromax did it, and he felt they had more important things to worry about.

[Tracks]

that could be another potential story along the lines, seeing colonel america come at MI:13, thats another topic though

maybe one of the ghost riders could come aboard with all the demons running around.

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

I'd love to see Motormouth and Killpower in the book on a regular basis.

[artiepants]

Not since, no. Blade wasn't happy when he first found out about the betrayal, but by the end of the story he seemed to have put any anger he had aside. Like I said, he got why Micromax did it, and he felt they had more important things to worry about.

...whats the 'Vanguard' story are you guys are referencing?

[bkdane]

If Spitfire is the one that Paul kills then I would like to see Meggan or Lionheart but it might be Motormouth.

[Loki]

...whats the 'Vanguard' story are you guys are referencing?

From the recent Marvel Comics Presents run. Blade and Micromax were part of a US black ops team together.

[MIMIC616]

Squirrel Girl would approve!

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g87/betaflight/JWCsq-sr.jpg

[Flinkman]

the only one i'd want at this point would be Meggan and, lucky me, it looks like that's a big possibility in the near future.

also, if the X-Men writers get sick of her & shun her to character limbo at some point...i think it'd be fun to have Pixie (she's Welsh!) join up as an "agent in training" or something. the interactions between her & Meggan could be very amusing.

[Jimmy Holograph]

Didn't they change Jack's schtick in his miniseries? Instead of being the "vampire killing guy", he's the "Working class British hero guy".

Jack went to being a more Captain America like character in the Gage miniseries as it as a spinoff to Union Jack's appearance in the "21st Century Blitz" arc in Captain America. Also in the beginning of the mini Jack had completely eradicated all the Vampires in Britain, which would be something I'd like to see Cornell reference, since he has pretty much retconned that.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Lionheart would be great to see again.

But I'd really like to see Allison Double or Shamrock in supporting roles.

Why we haven't seen Alison Double for so long is quite beyond me. There's a great character just waiting for a revival.

Didn't they change Jack's schtick in his miniseries? Instead of being the "vampire killing guy", he's the "Working class British hero guy".

Well, Union Jack was never really 'just the vampire guy'. There has been a lot more to his character, especially with Knights of Pendragon. Although the steroid pumped version from the books second volume is probably better off forgotten... :biggrin:

I'd love to see Motormouth and Killpower in the book on a regular basis.

That could work.

If Spitfire is the one that Paul kills then I would like to see Meggan or Lionheart but it might be Motormouth.

It could well be. She does have a powerset which nobody else on the team really touches.

the only one i'd want at this point would be Meggan and, lucky me, it looks like that's a big possibility in the near future.

also, if the X-Men writers get sick of her & shun her to character limbo at some point...i think it'd be fun to have Pixie (she's Welsh!) join up as an "agent in training" or something. the interactions between her & Meggan could be very amusing.

At some point, maybe. As a British citizen she would be MI13 defacto. As would Chamber or any other British mutant, should MI13 want to use them.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Jack went to being a more Captain America like character in the Gage miniseries as it as a spinoff to Union Jack's appearance in the "21st Century Blitz" arc in Captain America. Also in the beginning of the mini Jack had completely eradicated all the Vampires in Britain, which would be something I'd like to see Cornell reference, since he has pretty much retconned that.

He was doing a grand job. But then Blade brought ALL the vampires back in his ongoing. It kind of made the former a moot point. It'd be another reason for the two of them to clash, of course.

[Rahul]

He was doing a grand job. But then Blade brought ALL the vampires back in his ongoing. It kind of made the former a moot point. It'd be another reason for the two of them to clash, of course.
So those are two issues he has with Blade.....

[Tracks]

He was doing a grand job. But then Blade brought ALL the vampires back in his ongoing. It kind of made the former a moot point. It'd be another reason for the two of them to clash, of course.

actually his father and dracula did....and I guess gugenheim didn't do his homework once again seeing as he had Blade fighting vampires in britain.

[Tracks]

So those are two issues he has with Blade.....

the third being blade shot him off a building in their first encounter....

[Loki]

actually his father and dracula did....and I guess gugenheim didn't do his homework once again seeing as he had Blade fighting vampires in britain.

To be fair on Guggenheim, just because Union Jack thought he'd finished off the last vampires in Britain doesn't mean he was right. He's one man, there's 60 million people in the UK, and vampires can be sneaky - I'm sure some simply stayed off his radar.

[celticguy]

Like I said, I can see her guesting - and that would be cases like helping them with the occasional mission against common threats. But I can't see her out and out joining - past wounds between the UK and the Republic of Ireland have healed a lot, but not so much that I believe she'd feel comfortable working full-time for British intelligence. A regular, non-government affiliated British team - not a problem. British intelligence? A little too close to the bone.

Make her a liasion from the Rep or Ireland and there she is, She can bring Banshee's kid if she wants. A joint task force to battle the blah blah blah.

Hell if Jack Higgins can have a best selling British Spy that is a former IRA gun man Marvel can pull it off.

[Rahul]

the third being blade shot him off a building in their first encounter....
Physical injuries are an occupational hazard....

[Tracks]

To be fair on Guggenheim, just because Union Jack thought he'd finished off the last vampires in Britain doesn't mean he was right. He's one man, there's 60 million people in the UK, and vampires can be sneaky - I'm sure some simply stayed off his radar.

yeah but blade managed to find them so easily, but I see your point.

[Loki]

Make her a liasion from the Rep or Ireland and there she is, She can bring Banshee's kid if she wants. A joint task force to battle the blah blah blah.

And again, on specific missions that involve both countries, I can see that. But there's no way a British intelligence service is going to have a foreign agent with loyalties to another government as a permanent part of the team.

Hell if Jack Higgins can have a best selling British Spy that is a former IRA gun man Marvel can pull it off.
There's a real world history of turning former hostiles into agents, so long as they aren't too married to their anti-UK (or whichever country) beliefs. But to me the Sean Dillon novels strain credulity - recruit a former IRA man who has gone on to be a mercenary working for numerous terrorist groups as a British agent, sure. Trust him? No.

[Loki]

yeah but blade managed to find them so easily, but I see your point.

Well, Blade's been hunting them a lot longer. Plus, if UJ knew about them, it just means they are either new in the country, newly minted, or he'd found out his prior estimation of killing them all was overly optimistic.

[celticguy]

And again, on specific missions that involve both countries, I can see that. But there's no way a British intelligence service is going to have a foreign agent with loyalties to another government as a permanent part of the team.


There's a real world history of turning former hostiles into agents, so long as they aren't too married to their anti-UK (or whichever country) beliefs. But to me the Sean Dillon novels strain credulity - recruit a former IRA man who has gone on to be a mercenary working for numerous terrorist groups as a British agent, sure. Trust him? No.

really the vampires and magic are ok but someone Irish working with the brits for a common good is too big a leap?

I refer you to the show MI-5 called spooks in the UK where they had CIA officers working in their offices as Liasions.

Also Jame Bond has worked with Felix Lighter(sic) not to mention various secret agent babes over the years.

Their is a long history of this in fiction and in the real world for that matter of countries working together.

there is a difference with working for and working with.

[RolandJP]

Shamrock

http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/8/80/Shamrock.jpg/440px-Shamrock.jpg


or Night Raven

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b8/Nightravenmu0.png

[Aelle3]

yeah working with, exchanging info, help defeat at big baddie or hang out. But that doesn’t mean they would be permanently on the team. Plus why would an Irish character want to work for the British government?

[celticguy]

yeah working with, exchanging info, help defeat at big baddie or hang out. But that doesn’t mean they would be permanently on the team. Plus why would an Irish character want to work for the British government?


they could be on the team as long as the writer found use for them like any other character.

Seriously Namor can be an Avenger after trying to rule the world, Magneto can lead the X-men, Doom can be part of the FF (kinda) and that files but this people have a problem with.

If the wrtiter chose there could be a lot of tension filled moments using the history between the two countries.

They could expand it to other countries, if they made protection of the EU part of the deal as but Ireland is right there. If ther foes are going to be mystic in nature and lots of the british myths go bak to the Celtic stuff it is a natural fit.

[Loki]

really the vampires and magic are ok but someone Irish working with the brits for a common good is too big a leap?

Working with on an occasional basis, no. Working with as a permanent member of the team - it'd take some justification. This isn't an anti-Irish thing. Someone from Northern Ireland on the team would make perfect sense. But someone from the Republic is not likely to want to work for British intelligence, and if they have loyalties to a foreign country (any country) they won't be completely trusted. Britain and the Republic of Ireland get on way better than comics have implied in the past, and, if the Irish people I know from the Republic are in any way representational, old anti-British animosities have largely a matter of older generations and subsided. However, they still have long memories, and while anti-British feeling in general isn't there so much, there's little love lost for the British intelligence community.

I refer you to the show MI-5 called spooks in the UK where they had CIA officers working in their offices as Liasions.
And if you watch Spooks, you should know that the CIA officers are never allowed into the work area - all meetings are done outside on neutral turf - and that the British intelligence agencies trust "the cousins" only a little more than they do the enemy. There's a strong recognition that while interests often coincide, they don't match, and methods definitely don't match.

Also Jame Bond has worked with Felix Lighter(sic) not to mention various secret agent babes over the years.
Bond's hardly an accurate representation of the Secret Service.

Their is a long history of this in fiction and in the real world for that matter of countries working together.

there is a difference with working for and working with.
And I've said repeatedly, I can see them working with one another as and when interests coincide - common threats, etc. But an agent of a foreign power joining as a regular member of the team. No.

[Expletive Deleted]

Talk about comics, not each other.

Thanks.

[Guest_1001]

Okay, time for me to finally post in this thread, just to address one point; I agree with Loki. The fact is that just because the story is unrealistic in some ways, such as with vampires and demons, doesn't mean the story automatically changes to suit others, like having Shamrock working for the government. When it comes to more human qualities and characteristics -- in fact, characteristics of things that exist in the real world -- writers have to maintain normality for it to work and make sense. With things that don't exist, like vampires, a writer can put a spin on them that we've never seen before and make it work, because they don't exist in real life. On the other hand, they can't make every character able to speak every language in the world or have cars that stretch themselves and bounce off walls because they don't act that way in real life. It wouldn't work without some reasonable explanation.

I'm not saying Shamrock working for the government is out of the question -- the Black Knight is there, after all -- but if it isn't the way government agencies do things, which I have to take Loki's word for, then it shouldn't be the way things are done in the book either.

[celticguy]

Okay, time for me to finally post in this thread, just to address one point; I agree with Loki. The fact is that just because the story is unrealistic in some ways, such as with vampires and demons, doesn't mean the story automatically changes to suit others, like having Shamrock working for the government. When it comes to more human qualities and characteristics -- in fact, characteristics of things that exist in the real world -- writers have to maintain normality for it to work and make sense. With things that don't exist, like vampires, a writer can put a spin on them that we've never seen before and make it work, because they don't exist in real life. On the other hand, they can't make every character able to speak every language in the world or have cars that stretch themselves and bounce off walls because they don't act that way in real life. It wouldn't work without some reasonable explanation.

I'm not saying Shamrock working for the government is out of the question -- the Black Knight is there, after all -- but if it isn't the way government agencies do things, which I have to take Loki's word for, then it shouldn't be the way things are done in the book either.


She would not have to draw a check from the UK governement to work WITH the team. As a team fighting mystical threats she would be an asset. She could be used as a liasion that does not mean she is working for but with the team. Kind like that show NCIS which has a Mossad agent or US Agent in Canada's Omega flight as he was.

A lot not all but a lot of the myths in the UK start from the old Celtic Druid days an Irish hero could be helpful especially if the threat is written as a world threat, as the skrull were as the vampires could be (assuming the plan is to expand from the UK)

the Ireland, Britian history could add to the story not detract from it.

[Comet Man]

Ah, ya see Loki and Guest, I wasn't sure which Ireland Shamrock was from, so yes, it wouldn't really work for her to be on the team permanently, but I'd love to see her guest star every now and then to help out. I'm sure if Britain and Ireland were being invaded, she'd have no choice but to join with MI 13.

I wouldn't mind seeing Leir either.

[celticguy]

Ah, ya see Loki and Guest, I wasn't sure which Ireland Shamrock was from, so yes, it wouldn't really work for her to be on the team permanently, but I'd love to see her guest star every now and then to help out. I'm sure if Britain and Ireland were being invaded, she'd have no choice but to join with MI 13.

I think she is supposed to be from a border county and has some resentment of the Brits. Which would add to the underlying story.

[Babylon23]

Mortigan Goth - a grossly underutilised character that would be ideal for the series

Dark Angel - Start by getting her back into her original costume. Then bring a revamped Mys-Tech into the series as major villains. Dark Angel has a lot of untapped potential.

Meggan - It's well past time Meggan returned and joined the team.

Union Jack - As one of the UK's premier superheroes and already a government agent I'm surprised we haven't already seen Union Jack on the team.

Guest appearances I'd like to see:

Shang-Chi: Not sure I'd want him as a regular member, but I'd really like to see a major follow-up to the John Raven story from Pete Wisdom and having Shang-Chi as a recurring guest star would be cool.

Death's Head I: The original and the best. He should appear somewhere and there's no better book than Captain Britain for bringing him back into the spotlight.

[marvell2100]

If Paladin wasn't in the Thunderbolts he'd be a good fit with this team. I agree with the Shang-Chi choice. Spider-Woman could make a few guest appearances as well.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Night Raven

http://www.comicsreview.co.uk/nowreadthis/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/night-raven-the-collected-stories.jpg

I would be absolutely cock-a-hoop to see Night Raven involved at some point. But I don't think as an actual member. Night Raven's earliest stories do not place him as a British character. He has strong link across many areas of the world, and he is a perfect match for espionage stories though. It would be amazing if we could see the guy turn up for an arc or two, getting involved in MI13's business for a while.

Ah, ya see Loki and Guest, I wasn't sure which Ireland Shamrock was from, so yes, it wouldn't really work for her to be on the team permanently, but I'd love to see her guest star every now and then to help out. I'm sure if Britain and Ireland were being invaded, she'd have no choice but to join with MI 13.

Probably not join, but certainly work with for a while.

Mortigan Goth - a grossly underutilised character that would be ideal for the series

He got a mention during the first arc. It'd be great to see an appearance.

Dark Angel - Start by getting her back into her original costume. Then bring a revamped Mys-Tech into the series as major villains. Dark Angel has a lot of untapped potential.

I totally agree. Don't get me wrong, I thought that Salvador Larocca's artwork on Dark Angel was strong, but the redesign he did of Shevaun's costume was not as strong as the original. She's bonded to a strand of the universe itself - she's pretty powerful! :biggrin: But I do think there are plenty of potential stories yet to tell with her. And she's already known to Brian.

Guest appearances I'd like to see:

Shang-Chi: Not sure I'd want him as a regular member, but I'd really like to see a major follow-up to the John Raven story from Pete Wisdom and having Shang-Chi as a recurring guest star would be cool.

Yeah. That story has been left hanging a little. I'm sure it will be returned to eventually, but it definitely is a story I want to read.

Death's Head I: The original and the best. He should appear somewhere and there's no better book than Captain Britain for bringing him back into the spotlight.

Possibly. Or on GotG. He is more of a cosmic character in some respects, but it would certainly not be difficult to work him into any place in the Marvel Universe. Providing there was a fee involved... :wink:

[James Conniff]

I'd like to see Union Jack join the team. He seems like he would fit right in and has history with a lot of the cast.
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/union%20jack.jpg
And damn, do i love that costume.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Well, he's currently guesting on this arc. And it's not his first appearance. Here's hoping Joe sticks around...

[Tracks]

...I want blade to kick his butt, haha but he seems to be guesting enough and I think e made his intentions clear, but he probably will be working very closely with the group.