A New Meat

[o1pickleboy]

We as humans general consume so few types of animals on a general basis.

So is there any animal out there that you have ate that you liked that you would like to see available in your supermarket? Are there any that you didn't like that you think others would like to eat on a regular basis? Is there any animal that you think that would work in the meat industry that isn't currently used on a global scale?

[dupont2005]

So is there any animal out there that you have ate that you would liked that you would like to see available in your supermarket?

longhorn. i seen that burger show on the travel channel and it sold me on them. i think you gotta live in texas to get that stuff though.

[Paradox]

A Modest Proposal (http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html). :evilsmile:

[section 8]

Rattlesnake

Gator

Squirrel

Elk

raccoon

Kangaroo

Boar



...........What?

[Cody H]

Moose. Go ahead, try it sometime.

[Chris N]

A friend recently cooked Elk for me. Her mom shot it herself.

It was excellent.

[Radioactive Zombie]

longhorn. i seen that burger show on the travel channel and it sold me on them. i think you gotta live in texas to get that stuff though.

We got a burger joint that sells ostrich, deer, and buffalo burgers.

Supermarkets here need moar frog meat.

[The Black Guardian]

We as humans general consume outside of personal taste and reasons so few types of animals on a general basis.
So few? Maybe if you consider all of the types available, but I think mankind has proven that it will consume just about anything that's edible.
So is there any animal out there that you have ate that you would liked that you would like to see available in your supermarket? Are there any that you didn't like that you think other would like to eat on a regular basis? Is there any animal that you think that would work in the meat industry that isn't currently used on a global scale?
Insects! They're so plentiful. And they're good (I've had them)!

Reptiles: snakes, turtles, lizards (frogs and gators are fairly easy to find in stores around here)

Mollusks: Since Katrina, our area has been infested with Apple Snails (really huge snails that threaten to destabilize the ecology). They are edible, though there is some risk (I've checked). Someone needs to combine foresight and money and market these babies. Haven't actually eaten apple snails, but escargot is rather tasty, imo.

I've tried kangaroo, and I rather liked it, as well.

When I was very little, there was a restaurant in New Orleans that actually had many types of exotic meats on their menu (whale, bear, boar, buffalo, hippopotamus, and other things). My mother brought a menu home for me, just to fuel my imagination about such things, and I think it worked too well. Being a weird kid, it started me make-believing that spaghetti was brains and Brussels sprouts were eyeballs. Today, I'm an unapologetic omnivore. I've got my issues with pork (for some reason it causes me to become violently ill), but apart from that, I'm willing to try any type of meat you put in front of me. Yes, even dolphin, and if I'm ever in an area that legally serves it, I plan to.

[section 8]

A friend recently cooked Elk for me. Her mom and shot it herself.

It was excellent.

I prefer ground elk to ground beef

[morna]

English, motherfucker... do . you . speak . it .

[Justin D.]

Alligator. Fried alligator is so damn good. I've even had some great bite-size blackened alligator.

[Mermaid]

Rattlesnake

Gator

Squirrel

Elk

raccoon

Kangaroo

Boar



...........What?



we have Kangaroo in our supermarkets. It's just another meat here. I've had it but apart from the cuts that are like steaks i wouldn't really know how to prepare it or what dishes to make with it.

[Mermaid]

English, motherfucker... do . you . speak . it .

Eaaaaasy there Morna, he may have just misread it.

[worstblogever]

I'm big on rabbit.


Really, how no one has suggested Soylent Green, really, yet is beyond me.

[sHayden]

Moose. Go ahead, try it sometime.

I second moose!

[Valmore]

If "Food Detectives" are to be believed, quite a few other animals taste like chicken anyway. Frog legs, gator tails and guinea pigs apparently all taste like chicken.

[Typo Lad]

I love Bison.

One pay-day I'm going to try Deer.

[Mermaid]

ohh Typo....how did your house turningover new food thing go? Was it a success? Peatch? Preatch? damnit....my memory is so bad.

[Typo Lad]

It went well. No new meat though.

[Mermaid]

It went well. No new meat though.



no, sorry......wasn't trying to derail the thread. It's just the first time i've seen you.
Glad it went well for you. :smile:

[VanEyck]

I'd like to see more lamb options, ostrich, all manner of antelope (incl. deer, elk, moose, and caribou). I love bison, and camel ain't bad either.

While I haven't had much variety of birds, I have to believe that we could offer a much wider selection of birds than we typically do.

[Mermaid]

I've had emu kebabs. It was ok...like any other meat kebab really. Red meat as opposed to chicken or pork.

[Typo Lad]

no, sorry......wasn't trying to derail the thread. It's just the first time i've seen you.
Glad it went well for you. :smile:
I appreciate it.

I'm in Rita's.

Back on topic, slightly, we found out that the Whole Foods by us sells Ostrich eggs. Not Kosher, but fascinated me. Has anyone tried?

[Puma]

Buffalo. A local shop sells buffalo burger but I'd like the option of steaks and roasts.

[Slam_Bradley]

Buffalo. A local shop sells buffalo burger but I'd like the option of steaks and roasts.


Buffalo burger is pretty easy to get hereabouts. Steaks and other cuts...not so much.

[Puma]

Buffalo burger is pretty easy to get hereabouts. Steaks and other cuts...not so much.

I wonder why.

[Slam_Bradley]

I wonder why.


I have to assume it's a demand (or perceived demand) issue. I know that buffalo steaks are tricky to cook if you're not used to them because they're so damn lean. Easy to overcook and make them tough.

[Typo Lad]

Interesting, because the Kosher place by me has tons of Bison steaks. Not sure they have roast though.

Bison is the "trendy" meat right now.

[MacQuarrie]

Manatee. (http://www.monkeyspit.net/sites/manatee/) It's not just for breakfast anymore.

[GozertheGozarian]

Bison makes for a damn fine chili.

[MacQuarrie]

I'd like to see more lamb options, ostrich, all manner of antelope (incl. deer, elk, moose, and caribou). I love bison, and camel ain't bad either.
Make sure camel is properly cooked; they carry syphilis.

[morna]

Eaaaaasy there Morna, he may have just misread it.

We as humans general consume outside of personal taste and reasons so few types of animals on a general basis.


sorry, this sentence just appalled me. Gare says this might've helped...

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff322/dretheenigma/englishmotherfucker.jpg


and now back to the thread at hand.

[Cotton]

The Dodo bird

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Dodo_1.JPG/582px-Dodo_1.JPG

My dying wish is to eat the gigantic drumstick of a dodo bird.

I'm just kidding though, I'm not really dying...........but my wish is to eat the gigantic drumstick of a dodo bird.

[Ronald Bryan]

A Modest Proposal (http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html). :evilsmile:
Irish babies are the best.

[Chris N]

Buffalo burger is pretty easy to get hereabouts. Steaks and other cuts...not so much.

Same in the San Francisco area, at least in terms of what I've come across.

[MacQuarrie]

The Dodo bird

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Dodo_1.JPG/582px-Dodo_1.JPG

My dying wish is to eat the gigantic drumstick of a dodo bird.

I'm just kidding though, I'm not really dying...........but my wish is to eat the gigantic drumstick of a dodo bird.

Why aren't scientists trying to clone the Dodo from the remains in the museums? They've only been extinct since the mid 1600s.

[Paul McEnery]

I appreciate it.

I'm in Rita's.

Back on topic, slightly, we found out that the Whole Foods by us sells Ostrich eggs. Not Kosher, but fascinated me. Has anyone tried?

Hold on. Why wouldn't Ostrich eggs be kosher?

Are flightless birds on the list?

[Paul McEnery]

Manatee. (http://www.monkeyspit.net/sites/manatee/) It's not just for breakfast anymore.

Noooooooooooooo!

Manatees fall under "more entertaining alive than on my plate".

[howyadoin]

Why aren't scientists trying to clone the Dodo from the remains in the museums? They've only been extinct since the mid 1600s.Man, the Jurassic Park sequels just get worse and worse...

[crazyredlady]

just plate me up some venison sausage....that stuffs good and good for you
no cholesterol, low cal, high protein...its perfect

[Chris N]

Man, the Jurassic Park sequels just get worse and worse...

Not true. Lost World is the worst of the three. Which is too bad, as it was an excellent book.


Of course I come from the generation that thinks Jurassic Park is a good movie, so take that as you will.

[howyadoin]

Not true. Lost World is the worst of the three.It has a worse premise than cloning dodo birds?

[Michael P]

It has a worse premise than cloning dodo birds?

"There was a second site we never told anyone about, or thought to check on after the first one went all kablooey."

[crazyredlady]

great, just what we need. Man eating chickens....:rolleyes:
personally I love the third movie. It may not have done as well at the box office, but it did leave some gaping holes for the story to continue....like if they did spinos and pteros, what else could they have concocted? and how did a big ol multi ton T-rex get into a relatively small cabin and slaughter the crew? I swear there coulda been a few raptors smuggled aboard that boat....

[Paul McEnery]

great, just what we need. Man eating chickens....:rolleyes:

What do you think a raptor is?

[K'Nort]

I miss being able to buy veal.

[berk]

I like moose meat a lot. Caribou's good too. Although Dad didn't go hunting himself, we used to have some moose every year because he'd worked as a butcher when he was younger, so people would bring their moose to him to cut up for them. Haven't had it for years now, though.

[K'Nort]

We lived off of moose every winter too. Little chicken for variety. The butcher shop could even do up some as kielbasa.

[Cody H]

Ditto. It was pretty much a weekly staple until I was about 16 when I moved to another province. Come to think of it, it's been about 10 years since I've eaten it. I recall Moose Jerky being especially tasty.

[Donald M.]

I miss being able to buy veal.

Why don't we get to eat more baby animals, I wonder? It works with veal so well?

Imagine if chicken nuggets were whole chicks, dropped in fryer?

The beaks 'n' legs are for extra crunch.

[The Black Guardian]

Why don't we get to eat more baby animals, I wonder? It works with veal so well?

Imagine if chicken nuggets were whole chicks, dropped in fryer?

The beaks 'n' legs are for extra crunch.
Might be like squab or ortolan.

[Typo Lad]

Hold on. Why wouldn't Ostrich eggs be kosher?

Are flightless birds on the list?

Alas, no. I mean, it could be one of the birds on the list we don't know the name of... but everyone seems in agreement that they are not Kosher.

[Mermaid]

sorry, this sentence just appalled me. Gare says this might've helped...

]http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff322/dretheenigma/englishmotherfucker.jpg


and now back to the thread at hand.


ohhhh THAT sentence. I have to agree.....it was appalling by anyone's standards.

[Cotton]

great, just what we need. Man eating chickens....:rolleyes:

I've seen those! Here's a picture of a Man eating chicken:










































http://static.flickr.com/78/157539550_39b2c06c4b.jpg



The joke is kind of trite, but still terrifying huh?

[Slam_Bradley]

We lived off of moose every winter too. Little chicken for variety. The butcher shop could even do up some as kielbasa.


Moose is incredibly good, though living in the lower 48, moose-meat was/is damn rare.

[Dreadstar]

I miss being able to buy veal.

I miss being able to get Bob veal. No cattle producer does that anymore around here.

[MacQuarrie]

How about long pig?

[mailedbypostman1]

Homo sapiens?

[mgs]

We as humans general consume so few types of animals on a general basis.

Is there any animal that you think that would work in the meat industry that isn't currently used on a global scale?
A. that's wrong. Practically anything and everything that has lived has at one time been eaten by a human.

B. things that there are too much of....Humans, dogs, horses. I'll be happy when I can find these meats at my local supermarket.

[Michael P]

Homo sapiens?

Doesn't live up to the hype.

[Paradox]

mailedbypostman1 knows even the short ones are long:

Homo sapiens?

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!! :eek:

[Slam_Bradley]

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!! :eek:


Nice spoiler, Asshole.

[Ronald Bryan]

Nice spoiler, Asshole.
Romeo and Juliet commit suicide at the end.

[nervmeister]

Deer/Venison of course.

[Paul McEnery]

Doesn't live up to the hype.

Eating out doesn't count.

[Michael P]

Eating out doesn't count.

Oh, no, I have all mine delivered.

[SayOcean]

I like goat....its so fucking good

[nervmeister]

I like goat....its so fucking goodI've had goat (or should I say goat innards) before. It was quite good.

[MacQuarrie]

Nice spoiler, Asshole.

There's a statute of limitations on this stuff. That movie came out over 30 years ago.

[crazyredlady]

actually the play came out, what.....five centruries ago?

[Gary_B]

There's a statute of limitations on this stuff. That movie came out over 30 years ago.

I've always wondered, so I might as well ask here: What is a statue of limitations, anyways?

[MacQuarrie]

I've always wondered, so I might as well ask here: What is a statue of limitations, anyways?
You had me checking to see if I made a typo. whew.

StatuTe. It's a law that says if you commit certain crimes and nobody finds out within a certain amount of time, they can't prosecute you. Some crimes have no statute of limitations, like murder; that hangs over you for life. But lower-level stuff has an expiration date. Lay low for 10 years or whatever and you're free & clear.

[Michael P]

I've always wondered, so I might as well ask here: What is a statue of limitations, anyways?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_limitations

Or what Jim said.

[Gary_B]

Lame attempt at humour. Carry on, meat enthusiasts.

[Paradox]

Paul McEnery set one up:

Eating out doesn't count.

Most definitely NOT what she said. :wink:

[Paradox]

gary bolt wants the location:

I've always wondered, so I might as well ask here: What is a statue of limitations, anyways?

In front of Emily Litella's house. :biggrin:

EDIT: GAH! I read that as "where" for some reason. FAIL!

[Paul McEnery]

I've always wondered, so I might as well ask here: What is a statue of limitations, anyways?

Anything by Rodin, for a start.

[Paul McEnery]

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!! :eek:

Long live the new flesh.

[Paul McEnery]

Oh, no, I have all mine delivered.

That would certainly make it cheaper to get them drunk.

[o1pickleboy]

I hear they are having a squirrel problem in Washington. Maybe instead of just killing them. They could eat them too.

I wonder what squirrel tastes like?

*waiting for the obvious joke*

[The Black Guardian]

The little squirrels that most places have really aren't worth the trouble of preparing. Not enough meat on them. But the bigger fox squirrels are tasty though. They're very much like rabbit: kind of like the dark meat on a chicken.

[crazyredlady]

we got some big ones here in Iowa....corn fed don'cha know:tongue:
squirrels that is...I've seen them at least two maybe three pounds:eek:

[o1pickleboy]

I little drift on the main topic, but how about fast food. For what I have seen they mainly focus on Beef, Chicken and Fish. Who would like more pork and turkey options in fast food? Is there a fast food chain that specializes in these meats that I am not aware of? Would you eat in a fast food restaurant that did?

[longdecember]

It is a fairly well understood fact that the human brain only developed (on an evolutionary timetable) because of *both* the protein content of meat and Prometheus giving fire to them so it tenderized enough so they could eat it in one sitting.

[howyadoin]

I little drift on the main topic, but how about fast food. For what I have seen they mainly focus on Beef, Chicken and Fish. Who would like more pork and turkey options in fast food? Is there a fast food chain that specializes in these meats that I am not aware of? Would you eat in a fast food restaurant that did?I don't think pork is something you should be cooking quickly.

[o1pickleboy]

I don't think pork is something you should be cooking quickly.

Most of fast food is just reheating precooked food anyways. So I don't see to big of a issue.

[glue]

Most of fast food is just reheating precooked food anyways. So I don't see to big of a issue.

Not really. Most (all?) burger joints use raw meat and I'm pretty sure Taco Bell and the like do as well.

[o1pickleboy]

Not really. Most (all?) burger joints use raw meat and I'm pretty sure Taco Bell and the like do as well.

Policy must of changed since I worked in Fast Food. Most of the stuff we got off the trucks were package precooked meat patties. Then again I didn't work at all of them.

[glue]

Policy must of changed since I worked in Fast Food. Most of the stuff we got off the trucks were package precooked meat patties. Then again I didn't work at all of them.

Well obviously I didn't work at all of them either. But it may have gone from raw to pre-cooked. I haven't worked at a burger joint in nearly a decade.

[o1pickleboy]

Well obviously I didn't work at all of them either. But it may have gone from raw to pre-cooked. I haven't worked at a burger joint in nearly a decade.

same for me. Thinking about it now I remember some Tv ads bragging up the freshness of there food. So maybe they changed policy.

Either way they did it to increase bussiness not because they couldn't.

[Mermaid]

Most of fast food is just reheating precooked food anyways. So I don't see to big of a issue.

Not sure about the pre cooked in a burger joint. It's true of some food stuff but not beef patties. (at least not here)
With regards to pre cooked Pork. Pork doesn't reheat well and can be very dry so i'm not sure how well that would work.

[o1pickleboy]

Not sure about the pre cooked in a burger joint. It's true of some food stuff but not beef patties. (at least not here)
With regards to pre cooked Pork. Pork doesn't reheat well and can be very dry so i'm not sure how well that would work.

which would probably explain why it isn't done in fast food

[Mermaid]

which would probably explain why it isn't done in fast food

I think so. And as Brett already pointed out, freshly cooked would have to be cooked properly and right through, which takes more time than burger joints would normally allow for.

[o1pickleboy]

I think so. And as Brett already pointed out, freshly cooked would have to be cooked properly and right through, which takes more time than burger joints would normally allow for.

I was basing my thoughts on memory from a decade ago. When pre cook patties were common at the chain I worked at.

I suppose the only way to work it would to have food made up ahead of time. Which if it doesn't sell would lead to lots of waste.

[Mermaid]

I was basing my thoughts on memory from a decade ago. When pre cook patties were common at the chain I worked at.

I suppose the only way to work it would to have food made up ahead of time. Which if it doesn't sell would lead to lots of waste.

Mnn yeah, exactly. Now it's about every little way to cut corners and save money for the all important GP!

[The Black Guardian]

Not really. Most (all?) burger joints use raw meat and I'm pretty sure Taco Bell and the like do as well.
Indeed. If you pay attention when you're ordering, you can even see that this is true (and has always been), if you're talking about a major chain (won't comment on what goes on at Joe's Burger Kiosk).

Of course, they will often cook burgers hours in advance and pull them out of drawers when needed, but the meat arrives at the store raw.

[glue]

Of course, they will often cook burgers hours in advance and pull them out of drawers when needed, but the meat arrives at the store raw.

At Sonic we just piled them on the edge of the grill. But, yeah, definitely cooked in advance.

[Typo Lad]

Wrong dang thread. Sorry. Please ignore

[DrewTheXenocide]

Don't jump on me for saying this but, Dog.


Wait, wait, wait. Hear me out. It's pretty good.

[FistofIron]

It seems that a lot of supermarkets don't sell rabit. I love rabit.

[glue]

Wrong dang thread. Sorry. Please ignore

I'm not letting this go!

[mgs]

It seems that a lot of supermarkets don't sell rabit. I love rabit.rabbit is quite delicious, but killing hare is a process, and I think it's more popular overseas, not here, where chicken reigns supreme.

plus, there's the problem of unscrupulous rabbit dealers who substitute other animals like cat for rabbit.

That's why, when you buy rabbit you can't go by taste or look. And the reputable dealers will leave the tails on whole carcasses, b/c that's one of the main ways to tell that you are actually getting quality rabbit.

[Paul McEnery]

rabbit is quite delicious, but killing hare is a process, and I think it's more popular overseas, not here, where chicken reigns supreme.
.

Your complicated syntax leads me to think that hares are being slaughtered by alpha chickens.

This I shall continue to believe.

[mgs]

Your complicated syntax leads me to think that hares are being slaughtered by alpha chickens.

This I shall continue to believe.
I don't like to see animal fights, but this one would be interesting, considering the size of domesticated hares for slaughter and the fatness of domesticated chickens for slaughter! :wink:

[longdecember]

rabbit is quite delicious, but killing hare is a process, and I think it's more popular overseas, not here, where chicken reigns supreme.

plus, there's the problem of unscrupulous rabbit dealers who substitute other animals like cat for rabbit.

That's why, when you buy rabbit you can't go by taste or look. And the reputable dealers will leave the tails on whole carcasses, b/c that's one of the main ways to tell that you are actually getting quality rabbit.


IMHO, cleaning rabbit is far easier than cleaning a chicken. (No plucking!) But I see your point about the killing part. wild rabbit means two or 3 hours of trudging though brush and shooting it. But $.50 of ammo is cheaper than feeding out a domesticated chicken or rabbit.

Edit: And as far as the animal fights. Domesticated Rabbit > Factory raised Chicken (that has a hard time even walking). But a free range chicken, especially a rooster protecting his clutch, or even more so, a hen protecting chicks is a sight to behold. They have too many weapons that a rabbit does not. Beak on a strong neck. Wings to bluff and use for acrobatics, and some mean claws. Roosters even have spurs.

[Dreadstar]

...But I see your point about the killing part. wild rabbit means two or 3 hours of trudging though brush and shooting it. ...

On the other hand, 2 or 3 hours of trudging through brush usually tends to mean 4 rabbits.

[longdecember]

On the other hand, 2 or 3 hours of trudging through brush usually tends to mean 4 rabbits.

True. And the activity makes you hungry, which makes the food taste better.

[Slam_Bradley]

On the other hand, 2 or 3 hours of trudging through brush usually tends to mean 4 rabbits.


I wouldn't eat any wild rabbit I could find hereabouts. Those flea-bitten critters is nasty.

[longdecember]

I wouldn't eat any wild rabbit I could find hereabouts. Those flea-bitten critters is nasty.

We only take them in the winter. Fleas usually like to live on indoor pets.

[mgs]

I wouldn't eat any wild rabbit I could find hereabouts. Those flea-bitten critters is nasty.
true.and is harder to tell if one is sick or something. plus their meat is tougher (obviously needing more muscle and such) and you get a lot less yield, but it's also tastier than farm raised for the various foods they will eat in the wild. but again, a tougher meat, lot less of it and without a veterinarian, hard to tell if they are diseased or not.