The Superboy prime thread

[CaptainFrxz]

Didnt find any other thread about this so lets start.
What do you guys think of Superboy prime?
Personly i love this charachter, because you really feel sorry for him, he had everything and now its gone, one of the most powerfull beings there is in the multiverse, from crisis to sinestro corps war.
So your thoughts?

[bigbluntz]

Didnt find any other thread about this so lets start.
What do you guys think of Superboy prime?
Personly i love this charachter, because you really feel sorry for him, he had everything and now its gone, one of the most powerfull beings there is in the multiverse, from crisis to sinestro corps war.
So your thoughts?

Four words:

whiny little cry-baby

w8 2 more:

Kal El wannabe

[spidervenom]

Four words:

whiny little cry-baby

w8 2 more:

Kal El wannabe

That's why I like him and that he is kinda a fanboy parody.

[Buried Alien]

I'm wondering if the character has a future beyond LEGION OF THREE WORLDS. L3W might be the end of the road for the Superboy Prime character. What else could they do with him that wouldn't be redundant?

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[Cyclopsj316]

Emo Prime...

DAH, I mean Superboy Prime... Conner needs to come back and handle his emo ass... seriously...

[THEDOC]

Four words:

whiny little cry-baby

w8 2 more:

Kal El wannabe

Well technically he is Kal-El.
I don't really see him lasting after Lof3W, as yes, he would be redundant. I just want to get the next friggin' issue.

[Karl O'Neill]

Love this character since infinite crisis.

He is a vile, powerful scary villain.

[shadow knight]

While it's easy to say Sp is a villian, I don't see SP as someone who goes around casually destroying planets to me that lazy writing.

[Toonimator]

While it's easy to say Sp is a villian, I don't see SP as someone who goes around casually destroying planets to me that lazy writing.
He wants what he lost, correct? His world, his universe.

I could see them writing him out, for a time, and we catch up to him down the line where he's explored some other galaxy, or several galaxies, looking for a way to bring his world back, and comes across a yellow-sun world very similar to Earth, with human/near-human inhabitants, and becomes that world's hero. He settles into the role of that world's Superman, finds a measure of peace and happiness, and then stumbles across a potential way to get his Earth back... which sends him off the deep-end again, doing villainous things to attain it, and ultimately becoming a terror to his new adopted home.

Or he becomes enraged when some other culture with advanced tech comes along & casually dooms his world while he was tinkering in the lab on a new idea for getting his Earth back, and goes on some genocidal rampage to wipe out 'evil' in that part of the universe... or the advanced culture tells him they have technology to restore his Earth and will share it if he enforces their rule on the planet, or whatever. I think there's possibilities, keeping him out of the Earth-heroes' hair for awhile anyway with only a local GL or two encountering him rarely. Showing a brief good side, maybe, offering the hope of redemption, but somehow falling back into crazy and/or evil ways, so long as there's good reason behind it.

[Paiute 1]

Needs his whiny a** whipped by Superman again.

[MythicBrawn]

If the Guardians are too wussy to put him down like the mad dog that he is, then the DCU deserves everything that he dishes out. Essentially, all he is really is a plot device.

[HopeLantern]

Superboy Prime to me will always be "the guy who punched through reality".

Which makes no @#$% sense.

[Doc Goblin]

Such an annoying character. Him and his stupid "unstoppable power of whiny rage" that has him in those huge fight scenes with an army of superheroes who can't seem to do crap against him for no good reason. It was stupid in Infinite Crisis and dragged down the quality of the Sinestro Corps War.

That said, he's pretty tolerable in L3W. I'd even say it's a good Superboy-Prime story. I just hope it's also the LAST Superboy-Prime story. Get rid of the character on a high note.

[Alex L]

I dislike the character, but in a "I wish to not read him" style rather than a "I would pay money to see someone slap him in the face" type of dislike.

Due to insanely high power levels, he works best in small doses, instead of being the villain du jour of the past few years. "How are they going to stop him" works well... the first time. Then he appeared again. And again. And again.

He could conceivably work as a dark reflection of Superman; as the road that could have been, but he hasn't been used that way and it's a bit too late to start now.

He's a whiny superpowered kid. And I can't muster up the whatever it takes to care one way or the other.

[Buried Alien]

To me, Superboy-Prime now has greater value as a symbol than he does as an actual character. The character, unfortunately, has become a sort of one-note villain, and I don't see what the writers can do to alter that. As a symbol, however, I think Superboy-Prime still has some value: he is the last surviving *unaltered* character from the Pre-COIE Multiverse. Yes, Power Girl is around, but she was altered by the First Crisis even though she now recalls select bits of her Pre-COIE past. Superboy-Prime is the last bona fide Pre-COIE character and to me, that justifies his ongoing existence even though I really don't know if there are too many interesting stories left to tell with him.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[Paiute 1]

Such an annoying character. Him and his stupid "unstoppable power of whiny rage" that has him in those huge fight scenes with an army of superheroes who can't seem to do crap against him for no good reason. It was stupid in Infinite Crisis and dragged down the quality of the Sinestro Corps War.

That said, he's pretty tolerable in L3W. I'd even say it's a good Superboy-Prime story. I just hope it's also the LAST Superboy-Prime story. Get rid of the character on a high note.

Your totaly right, teamwork, skill, ECT. just seem to go out the window whenever any writer takes on the chracter. Even the calm cool stradegest (sp) types loose there heads evey time there's a confrontation with this jerk.

The heroes are written more in chracter when they go up against types like Apokolips and Doomesday.

[Ex_]

How can people dislike this guy? He's so interesting. He's from a world like ours! He's immature! He's fucking great!

[tommo123]

he's superboy from earth-prime right?

there was an alexander luthor from that world that was smarter than the standard Lex, does that mean there are dupes (but superior) to all characters? e.g wonder woman prime, batman prime etc, or my favorite potential characters - Darkseid prime and doomsday prime!?

[BeastieRunner]

He's one of the few DCU villains I love to hate. He's a great villain when written properly. I think he really started to shine in the Sinestro Corps.

[Alex L]

he's superboy from earth-prime right?

there was an alexander luthor from that world that was smarter than the standard Lex, does that mean there are dupes (but superior) to all characters? e.g wonder woman prime, batman prime etc, or my favorite potential characters - Darkseid prime and doomsday prime!?

You may be thinking of Alexander Luthor from the old Earth-Three, where heroes were villains and villains were heroes.

Earth Prime was, to the best of my recollection, as close as you could get to "the real world" -- superheroes only existed in comic books and Clark Kent was the only person with powers.

[Kevin Vetter]

If the Guardians are too wussy to put him down like the mad dog that he is, then the DCU deserves everything that he dishes out. Essentially, all he is really is a plot device.

They tried killing him and failed spectacularly as it ended up making him more powerful for a while.

[tommo123]

You may be thinking of Alexander Luthor from the old Earth-Three, where heroes were villains and villains were heroes.


well, the alex i'm thinking of was deffo a bad guy - he just hid it.

i have no idea what story this came (think infinite crisis) from but i'll describe roughly what happened. superman, superboy, alex and lois iirc were trapped between realities i think and lois was getting old? there was a fight between supes and supes prime. yadda yadda yadda, turned out superboy prime and alex were working together to break out. alex died at the jokers hands for "not letting him play".

doesnt sound quite like the world you described since there were 2 superpowered peeps and alex was a bad guy. :confused:

still think a uber Darkseid would be sweet though :)

[Kevin Vetter]

You are both talking about the same thing tommo and alex is right. The two main villains from infinite crisis: superboy prime and alexander luthor were the heroes in crisis on infinite earths. They were there with earth 2 superman when he defeated the antimonitor. Luthor either found or created a place outside of the new reality that came to be after the original crisis where the three of them and lois stayed until infinite crisis. The superboy prime one shot that was part of the sinestro corps war showed earth prime and superboy was the only super powered being there. All the characters we know were all just comic book characters there except for prime and on alexanders earth the role of hero and villian was the opposite of the main dc reality.

[tommo123]

ah ok. so no uber Darkseid then? :(

[Captain Smith]

If he isn't eliminated, he will become like Doomsday - dragged out, jerked around in bad stories.

He was a good character at first but Countdown went to hell and negated his buildup.

[Infinity Man]

an army of superheroes who can't seem to do crap against him for no good reason.

Actually that is why I love him. He just doesn't care. He is a psychotic Kryptonian who is unafraid to use the full extent of his abilities. He is an evil Superman, and being that I'm a much bigger fan of bad guys then of good guys, that makes him my favorite version of Superman.

I hope to see more of him in the future.

[Mat001]

an army of superheroes who can't seem to do crap against him for no good reason.

Here's a Pre-Crisis version of Superman. The guy who could juggle planets with ease and blow out entire universes with a super sneeze. That's why the Post Crisis DCU cannot simply whomp on him. It's like God has come to kick your ass. Superboy-Prime does not have the level of control that the regular Superman and Superboy have. Much less emotional stability.

[Infinity Man]

I thought it was pretty interesting how Prime beat the crap of Ion inhabited Sodam Yat. I guess it was the lead poisoning that allowed Prime to beat him so easily, but even without it, I still think Prime would have won. Just the fight might not have been such a land slide.

[Kevin Vetter]

I don't think he would have done much better. Even with the ring having to do a lot to deal with the poisoning he still had the ion and superman powers and still got destroyed.

[Paiute 1]

Here's a Pre-Crisis version of Superman. The guy who could juggle planets with ease and blow out entire universes with a super sneeze. That's why the Post Crisis DCU cannot simply whomp on him. It's like God has come to kick your ass. Superboy-Prime does not have the level of control that the regular Superman and Superboy have. Much less emotional stability.

And "thats what makes Superman great" to answer another thread that is running right now.

[Flash's Lightning]

I hated the whole thing where he could beat a Green Lantern daxamite. Yeah, he's from another world where Kryptonians are tougher. But damn, at least give a better fight.

The Green Lantern ring is one of the most powerful, if not THE most powerful, weapons in the galaxy. Daxamites are supposed to be even stronger than one of our Kryptonians, right?

And he lasts about two milliseconds in battle against Earth Prime? There should have been a hell of a bigger struggle than that.

Or maybe it's just my mind remembering it wrong 'cause I hated for Sodam to lose. :tongue:

[Mat001]

Pre-Crisis Kryptonians are stronger than Earth-0 Daxamites and Green Lanterns. It's like I said, Prime is God coming to kick your ass and he don't like you very much.