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JoshuaB
04-11-2009, 07:23 PM
Hey guys, I'm really interested in Daredevil but have never read anything. I hear the current run is fantastic. What is a good place to go back and start reading? Are there are any great runs to go back and pick up?

Maestro
04-11-2009, 07:29 PM
great runs? great runs???? Daredevil has some of the greatest runs ever! It started with Frank Miller. all of his stuff is collected in trade, plus his final story called "Born Again". which is a classic.

here is a little reading order to help you out

Daredevil: The Man Without Fear (origin story by Frank Miller)

http://www.amazon.com/Daredevil-Without-Fear-Frank-Miller/dp/0785134786/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b

Daredevil by Frank Miller vol. 1-3

http://www.amazon.com/Daredevil-Vol-1-v/dp/0785134735/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_c
http://www.amazon.com/Daredevil-Vol-2-Frank-Miller/dp/0785134743/ref=pd_sim_b_4
http://www.amazon.com/Daredevil-Vol-3-v/dp/0785134751/ref=pd_sim_b_1

and Born Again

http://www.amazon.com/Daredevil-Born-Again-Frank-Miller/dp/0785134808/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239499810&sr=1-12

after this there is Brian Bendis' run. He wrote some 60 issues with Alex Maleev. his stuff is also collected in trade or in this nice oversized omnibus hardcover, which collects about half his run in one book

http://www.amazon.com/Daredevil-Brian-Michael-Bendis-Omnibus/dp/0785131124/ref=pd_bbs_sr_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239500089&sr=8-6

after Bendis, Ed Brubaker took over the book. He is the current writer. I think his run is getting an omnibus once he is done. He leaves the book with issue #500. Daredevil has a lot of great omnibuses actually. the Frank Miller run is available in omnibus too

immortal_daredevil
04-11-2009, 07:31 PM
great runs? great runs???? Daredevil has some of the greatest runs ever! It started with Frank Miller. all of his stuff is collected in trade, plus his final story called "Born Again". which is a classic.

Oh sheesh, can't describe how awesome "Born Again" is, really made me want to read more Daredevil, I'm currently reading through "Lady Bullseye" then on to the ongoing "Return of The King" arc :D

Hrist
04-11-2009, 07:34 PM
Pretty much all of volume 2 is good, but that might be a bit much to go back and start collecting. Frank Miller's long run on the book back in the eighties is also famous, including Born Again (v1 #227-#233), which is widely regarded as one of the best Daredevil stories.

If you want to get into the current book, I think they were marketing #111 as a jumping-on point? You could also start with #116, which is the beginning of the new arc.

Gene M.
04-11-2009, 07:37 PM
If you're looking for something older, most people would tell you to check out Frank Miller's run and they'd be correct. If you want something more current, I started with Brian Bendis's run and it's fantastic.

Spaceman Spiff
04-11-2009, 07:38 PM
Both Bendis' run and Brubaker's followup have been absolutely fantastic. The best DD since Frank miller, but it isn't as dated if you want to read something more modern.

JoshuaB
04-11-2009, 08:08 PM
Fantastic. Thanks guys. I think I'm going to start back with Bendis' run and move forward if I like it...I'm geeked about starting this...on top of Daredevil, I freaking love Elektra and Black Widow.

B. Kuwanger
04-11-2009, 09:10 PM
Heh, glad to hear you'll be starting with Bendis, that's probably my favorite comic run ever. Though it being one of my first probably plays a part in that.

Hamdinger
04-11-2009, 09:35 PM
It's that run on Daredevil that reminds me that Bendis can be so damn good. I loved it. (and the art fit DD's gritty world and life so well)

earl
04-11-2009, 11:35 PM
I'd say you will get more out of Bendis' Daredevil run if you read the Frank Miller stuff first, as pretty much every thing Daredevil is about generally echos back to what Miller did on the book. You don't necessarily need to start with the first Miller trade, although Bendis does reference the story with the Gladiator in his run which is in the first book. The whole play with the Kingpin and Bullseye will be much bigger if you read at least the first Elektra arc in the 2nd Daredevil Miller collection and then Born Again. If you do read Born Again, you might also want to read the Guardian Devil story by Kevin Smith/Joe Quesada as that is kind of a sequel. It isn't as good as what Bendis did later on, but it does kind of setup the run.

I think the Bendis/Maleev run on Daredevil might be the best long run on a super hero comic that I have come across since I started reading comics again in the past few years. I was buying Daredevil as a kid in the 80s, even had a subscription, so I read the later part of Millers run and the later stuff with Mazzuchelli on Born Again as it came out.


Daredevil is about a perfect comic for someone to get into via trade as pretty much bunches of the major story lines all of it is in print or not too hard to find. It also thankfully kind of runs in its own thing and doesn't really connect much to the other titles, so there are no issues that are really out of whack with the rest of the run.

Maestro
04-12-2009, 02:53 AM
Frank Miller made Kingpin, Bullseye, and Elektra into the baddest mofos ever. He didn't create the first two but he developed them so much they might as well be his characters

Bookem Danno
04-12-2009, 04:41 AM
Where is this from and what happened next?
http://img5.glowfoto.com/images/2009/04/12-0326328381T.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9771/017supermanbatman015rembrandtd.jpg)

Skeets
04-12-2009, 05:08 AM
Just pick up the latest issue and start from there, if you dig it, go back and start collecting the trades for volume 2.

Global Honored
04-12-2009, 05:50 AM
No Guardian Devil?

Definitely check out the Miller run if you get a chance, I am pretty sure it is collected in Omnibus form now as well. "Born Again" is a must read at minimum and the current Daredevil series really follows through and builds on that story prob more than any other.

Bendis/Maleev Omnibus is the way to go. It should lead you into Brubaker's run and ...wait for it...by the time you have read all of that and caught up that far it should be about the time that the Brubaker/Lark Daredevil Omnibus hits the shelves. There ya go. Unfortunately I don't get a cut if you buy those big books, but they are nice to have, huge collections for reasonable prices considering all you get.

jackdaw53
04-12-2009, 09:11 AM
Really just echoing what everybody else has said. Boy... are you in for a treat if you've never read any Daredevil before. A serious contender for the best written character in popular comics over the last 40 years.

A handful of other characters (Batman? Spiderman?) may have featured in as many long wonderful runs.... but I suspect they have appeared in more dross than the fearless one.

Toss a coin up, start with the Frank Miller run or the Brian Bendis... but start as soon as possible... and give them both a try at some point.

artiepants
04-12-2009, 10:23 AM
Where is this from and what happened next?
http://img5.glowfoto.com/images/2009/04/12-0326328381T.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9771/017supermanbatman015rembrandtd.jpg)

this was from a reprint of a european comic that was recently released asa double sized issue. (i got it in my box cuz i'm subscribed to DD) it was QUITE dreadful :frown:

striderhirryu2
04-12-2009, 12:43 PM
Best jumping on point is probably #1 in the Marvel Knights relaunch, Guardian Devil. Bendis' run deals alot with Karen Page and Bullseye. The Bob Gale fill ins between Mack and Bendis was good, and it was the brightest segment of the series before things get Dark and awsome.

JoshuaB
04-12-2009, 04:03 PM
I'm ordering the first and second Bendis trades tonight. Thanks guys!

Warpsters
04-13-2009, 11:49 AM
I really dug Guardian Devil.

Frank Miller and JR JR's Man Without Fear is an awesome take on the origin and I would put Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale's Daredevil:Yellow in that same catagory.

Firebringer27
04-13-2009, 09:49 PM
I just wrote a lengthly topic on Daredevil over at newsaraman.com... mostly fuming over the fact they skipped second half of Bendis' daredevil run to get to Brubaker without a consideration for those who thought they were such a clever wankers to buy the entire Bendis run in Omnibus format then break in Brubaker in trades.

Ignore the unnecessary dramatic effects (I was in a weird mood when I wrote this, so sue me)

First post
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I ve been drooling Bendis and Maleev's run on Daredevil since 2005 (maybe 2006).

By June of 2006, I intended to purchase the trades when my budget was free enough to start buying their runs after Brubaker took over. But because I was still buying comics on monthly basis (60 bucks per week was my budget and I was barely able to keep it that low). For the sake of budget, I deferred Bendis and Maleev's Daredevil!

By September of 2007, I stopped buying monthlies in favor of trades, but I was hellbent on at the very least getting Frank Miller's Daredevil trades before Bendis'. Something I couldn't do at the time because for some freakish reason, Amazon.com ran out of Miller's Daredevil comics! For the sake of chronology, I deferred Bendis' and Maleev's Daredevil!

By January of 2008, I aimed to ignore Frank Miller's run and started to purchase the volume of the current run starting with Kevin Smith! I actually managed to get to the 4th trade of the current run (2nd Bendis Daredevil trade for those who aren't in the know) before a miracle happened. The news of OMNIBUS piece of Bendis and Maleev run was traveled throughout AMAZON.COM in a period when I had contended to buy the rest of the runs in trade paperback format! Huzzah was sounded throughout the sleepy town of Thousand Oaks! For the sake of single volume format, I deferred Bendis and Maleev's Daredevil!

By June of 2008, I got my grubby hands on Bendis and Maleev's Omnibus realizing it was only one volume in what is suppose to be 2 volume format. Patience, which was never a virtue of mine, and determination to continue the run in similar volume format compelled me to avoid the trades! Frank Miller's Daredevil visionaries works were being reprinted once more in December! For the sake of consistency in format, I deferred Bendis and Maleev's Daredevil once more!

By February of 2009, I managed to get every one of Frank Miller's Daredevil run in Visionaries format, including Born Again. After reading the story through, I have decided that Frank Miller was but one trick pony that got lucky, but was contended to at least finish Bendis' run which, from the Omnibus vol. 1, was vastly superior to anything Miller can imagine! BUT... this was not to be. Instead of releasing the final Omnibus of Bendis' run, they jumped over entire second half of the story to the Brubaker's Omnibus run!

For the sake of budget, for the sake of chronology, for the sake of consistency in format, for the sake of story consistency I cannot defer the comic any longer!!

For a comic deferred, let our cries be heard from the penthouse of the 417 5th Avenue New York City to the lowly mailroom!

Our will be done!!
Who's with me?!?




(truthfully, this was just a fun piece for me to do so don't take me too seriously. I, however, do want to see Bendis and Maleev's daredevil Omnibus Vol. 2 to come out sometimes within the year and think it's a pathological decision to make even if the sole ambition is to capitalize on Brubaker's name.)


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Post #2 (sure to piss off some people, but I am truly curious about your opinions on Frank Miller's run)





While some of the first Miller's Daredevil stuff wasn't actually written by him, his writing career on Daredevil was bit lukewarm. It's the best way I can describe his work of the period. The so-called Elektra's death and the eventual rebirth which is found in the latter two of Frank miller's Daredevil visionaries volume didn't exactly live up to the hype, but then again, it was spoiled for me 100 times over on these message boards so I can't entirely blame frank miller for my lack of emotional attachment to her. Yet, I can say this much- Frank Miller's works does not age well. Not even Batman: Dark Knight Returns (I know this kinda stuff is bit heretic on these boards, but this is coming from a guy who spent 5 years of his life thinking Frank Miller walks on the water only to realize he's an hack of a writer while I was in high school)

Quite frankly, I thought Daredevil: Born Again was absolutely horrendous in spite of decent opening chapter. The story dissolved into madness whith some uber american one-man army (who came out of nowhere) jumping into one city block with a singular goal to destroy Daredevil and whatever gets in the way of his bullet. He was literally randomly shooting people, buildings, and once he was stopped... the story pretty much ended there.

It wasn't this ultimate Daredevil/Kingpin story I was led to believe. I was expecting an extreme battle of wits and wills that, naturally, ends with Daredevil on top... instead of this... farce that ended on a patriotic note. If it was Martha Washington or some crap like that, I'd have at least understood the need for patriotism, but here... here... it came out of nowhere. It came out, smacked me in the face, ripped my balls out, sang Pledge of Allegiance, and left. That's the best way I can describe how I felt as I closed the book (with a bit of hyperbole thrown in the mix).

I read Born Again, a story which many on this board and others recommended, over and over trying to figure out what made this stuff great. In the end, I gave up. It's currently in the trunk of my car for no good reason, heading nowhere important. I figured it was a great metaphoric way to treat this book...



Anyway, the point is... you can go ahead and jump onto Bendis' Omnibus edition while skipping out on Kevin Smith and David Mack's stuff. Their stories aren't bad, but nothing memorable. Bendis' stuff is truly some of the more innovative stuff to come out in the past decade. I remember lurking newsarama boards back in the day (jeez, I'm 22 and I'm already saying back in the day) and it was split down to the middle on his Daredevil. Mostly because people were complaining that Matt Murlock didn't don his daredevil outfit and go around kicking people's ass anymore.

Really, I just think the people who didn't like Bendis' run owe to themselves to read a collected editions (trade paperbacks, hardcover editions, Omnibus editions, whatever). I think his work is amazing in that format.

Just so you know, I'm not Bendis' ardent supporter, but I did think his Alias, Daredevil, and Powers stuff are amazing. His other works are, more or less, typical at the best.

Rereading my post, it's obvious I had lot to say about Frank Miller's run. I've been, quite literally, baffled with his Daredevil fame. I know he was one of the more innovative artist of the time (and it does show), but his writing is... well... let's just say it doesn't age well. (that's the best way I can put it.)


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Once again, I'm truly curious about your thoughts. What did that uber one man army have to do with any of the overall theme that was running in the story?

Chino
04-13-2009, 10:00 PM
Kevin Smith run not important or memorable??? Some didn't like it, but I can't agree with it not being important. That's where I started when it first launched, then went back and pretty much did it in the order posted in the first reply.

Enjoy!

Hamdinger
04-13-2009, 10:10 PM
I really disliked the Smith run on DD. It was as good as his movies, meaning only some parts were good and the majority of it was bad. Kevin Smith gives great interviews and his speaking engagements at universities are funnier than his moves.

Firebringer27
04-13-2009, 10:15 PM
Kevin Smith run not important or memorable??? Some didn't like it, but I can't agree with it not being important. That's where I started when it first launched, then went back and pretty much did it in the order posted in the first reply.

Enjoy!

I actually didn't think it was really that important except for the part where



*spoilers*






his 32nd girlfriend was killed by Bullseye and a C rate villain killed himself (then, according to my poor memory, was brought back without an explanation in some random issue of Spiderman)










*end spoilers*





Beyond that... his run has been, sadly, ignored. And this is coming from a guy who actually enjoyed Kevin Smith's run. While my scattered post may point a lot of rage against Frank Miller amongst some others (although I think it really was just frank miller I didn't like), Kevin Smith wasn't one of them. He's a good writer, but his "run" had just as much importance in the series as Deadman Dead Again has on the Deadman's "franchise" (sorry, just replied on a Deadman topic, so he's practically the only one on my mind)

Or Batman- Masks from that Legend of Dark Knight story ages ago.

It's Bendis' mark on the current run that has any lasting meaning even if Kevin Smith opened the way.

striderhirryu2
04-13-2009, 11:00 PM
How was Kevin Smith's run ever been ignored? Every 3 chapters we're reminded of Karen Page.

Bookem Danno
04-14-2009, 10:15 AM
http://img5.glowfoto.com/images/2009/04/12-0326328381T.jpgthis was from a reprint of a european comic that was recently released asa double sized issue. (i got it in my box cuz i'm subscribed to DD) it was QUITE dreadful :frown:


IThank you, is that like Britain's Marvel line? I did not know European comics had original DD content? France and Italy and the likes?

SpideyZERO
04-14-2009, 10:22 AM
I think Daredevil: Redemption is worth a read as well

another_version
04-20-2009, 05:36 PM
I want to get into Daredevil but am not sure where to start. I have read Year One and some other trades, but would like to join in on the monthlies. I know 118 comes out this week, how much would I have to back order to catch up to the storyline at this point, or where would be a good starting point?

Karl O'Neill
04-20-2009, 05:44 PM
You might have to take the plunge if you want to jump onboard now.

118 is part 3 of a cool story.

go back and get 116 and 117.

otherwise, if you want all the other stuff, I could be listing them all nite :)

Max
04-20-2009, 06:33 PM
Well if you have the $ I would go back and pick up the Brubaker trades.

Also, do yourself a favor and check out Born Again.

gl

Christopher Cross Is God
04-20-2009, 07:58 PM
Start with issue #111.

Or, if you don't want to buy 7 issues at once (Counting tomorrow's issue), then get the Lady Bullseye tpb (Which has #111-115) and start with #116 for your single-issue collection.

Tobias Palmer
04-21-2009, 07:43 AM
Well I whould pick up the Frank Millers vol 1-3, born again, the man without fear and the Bendis trades.

You don't need those to understand the story, but they are awesome stories, worth reading.

T Hedge Coke
04-21-2009, 10:45 AM
Just pick up the new issue. If it's interesting, grab the previous two in this story, and if that interests, work your way backward and forth as much as you like. There shouldn't be anything glaringly impassible or impossible to understand in the single issue (the writer's good about that).

And, on the subject of "Pick it up because it's good", there aren't really a whole lot of bad Daredevil comics, are there? There's an eclectic amount of takes on the concept and character, his world (Rosalind Sharpe still throws me when she pops up), some hotter than others, but I'd have a hard time finding an era or run that I flat out didn't care for, and most of it's just pretty ace.

coldstar
04-21-2009, 11:43 AM
If you have time and can get ahold of it, I'd actually look at the whole of volume 3. I have trouble thinking of anything in the current run that's not amazingly written. Obviously if you're eager to start reading the current ones, just pick up 116 or something, but at some point, it's really worth going back and reading the first 115... :smile:

Skeets
04-21-2009, 12:10 PM
Just pick up the new issue. If it's interesting, grab the previous two in this story, and if that interests, work your way backward and forth as much as you like. There shouldn't be anything glaringly impassible or impossible to understand in the single issue (the writer's good about that).

And, on the subject of "Pick it up because it's good", there aren't really a whole lot of bad Daredevil comics, are there? There's an eclectic amount of takes on the concept and character, his world (Rosalind Sharpe still throws me when she pops up), some hotter than others, but I'd have a hard time finding an era or run that I flat out didn't care for, and most of it's just pretty ace.
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Tobias Palmer
04-21-2009, 01:11 PM
Just pick up the new issue. If it's interesting, grab the previous two in this story, and if that interests, work your way backward and forth as much as you like. There shouldn't be anything glaringly impassible or impossible to understand in the single issue (the writer's good about that).

And, on the subject of "Pick it up because it's good", there aren't really a whole lot of bad Daredevil comics, are there? There's an eclectic amount of takes on the concept and character, his world (Rosalind Sharpe still throws me when she pops up), some hotter than others, but I'd have a hard time finding an era or run that I flat out didn't care for, and most of it's just pretty ace.

Well I Bendis and Frank Miller is amazing, some of Ann Nocenti stories are good as well, but none of it had what I know of come in trades.

Personaly I think Daredevil before miller, is to much like spidey, and not everthing before Bendis was good. Only remeber Kevin Smith and Joe Quesada's work as being good, between Ann Nocenti and Bendis.

Christopher Cross Is God
04-21-2009, 03:11 PM
And, on the subject of "Pick it up because it's good", there aren't really a whole lot of bad Daredevil comics, are there? There's an eclectic amount of takes on the concept and character, his world (Rosalind Sharpe still throws me when she pops up), some hotter than others, but I'd have a hard time finding an era or run that I flat out didn't care for, and most of it's just pretty ace.

The only Daredevil runs I've really liked are Frank Miller's popular run with Bullseye & Elektra, and Brubaker's current run with Lady Bullseye & Kingpin.

James Conniff
04-21-2009, 10:30 PM
Just pick up the new issue. If it's interesting, grab the previous two in this story, and if that interests, work your way backward and forth as much as you like. There shouldn't be anything glaringly impassible or impossible to understand in the single issue (the writer's good about that).

And, on the subject of "Pick it up because it's good", there aren't really a whole lot of bad Daredevil comics, are there? There's an eclectic amount of takes on the concept and character, his world (Rosalind Sharpe still throws me when she pops up), some hotter than others, but I'd have a hard time finding an era or run that I flat out didn't care for, and most of it's just pretty ace.

The pedigree on the book is pretty damn insane.
Ive really enjoyed most of DD's stuff, from Miller's work forwards...skipping bits of the 90's. The Relaunce with Smith and Quesada was great. Bendis and Brubaker have etched their names up there with Miller and Lee in my opinion, so anything out of their runs is golden in my book.

Iron-boy
05-24-2009, 12:49 PM
So I want to start reading Daredevil and I picked up the new arc with Kingpin. I wanted to know if there are any other very good arc by Brubaker worth picking up ( I am limited in cash so the best of his current storyline would be appreciated) . Also should I wait till I get Lady Bullseye tpb to start reading the current arc?

Thanks!

ANewHope
05-24-2009, 01:16 PM
Yes. You should start with the Daredevil TPB with Lady Bullseye's first appearance. It's either issue 111 or 110, can't remember.

That's where I jumped on. So I don't know any other stories of Brubaker that are worth reading.

The current story involving the kingpin, daredevil and lady bullseye.

Fat Cobra
05-24-2009, 09:32 PM
Devil in Cell Block D is a very good arc but it has nothing to do with the current one.

Iron-boy
05-26-2009, 05:23 PM
Another question
is Daredevil: The Man Without Fear TPB the current origin of Matt Murdock?

Acerbus
05-26-2009, 05:52 PM
It's current, canon origin, I believe. Seeing as Stick is referenced alot in current ongoing DD, and he's obviously nonexistent in Stan Lee's original origin, I think it's safe to assume that MWF is canon.

Expletive Deleted
05-26-2009, 06:26 PM
Another question
is Daredevil: The Man Without Fear TPB the current origin of Matt Murdock?Short answer, no.

Long answer, sort of.

Man Without Fear is an adapted film script that Miller had worked on at one point. It's a standalone, non-continuity thing. The thing is, because of the retcons that Miller added in during his classic Daredevil run (Elektra, Stick, etc.), Man Without Fear actually works better than the Stan Lee origin. I can even think of at least one piece of MWF (Matt's fight in the brothel) that's worked its way into regular continuity via another writer.

That said, the Stan Lee origin is still technically the official origin, albeit with aforementioned retcons.

Iron-boy
05-26-2009, 06:48 PM
Okay thanks, god I hate it when there's more then one simple origin tale. Let hope they don't change it again. This is why DC is hard to follow.

Kareem
05-27-2009, 05:31 AM
The Lady Bullseye arc should be an alright jump in. When you get the money read Bendis' run.

T Hedge Coke
05-27-2009, 06:30 AM
Okay thanks, god I hate it when there's more then one simple origin tale. Let hope they don't change it again. This is why DC is hard to follow.

Aside from the age(s) of Matt Murdock during parts of his origin, there's actually not a lot of argument between Man Without Fear and the Stan Lee original.

Iron-boy
05-27-2009, 06:33 AM
Is Born Again part of the current continuity? And is Marvel planning to reprint all Bendis run from Volume 2?

Expletive Deleted
05-27-2009, 06:40 AM
Is Born Again part of the current continuity? And is Marvel planning to reprint all Bendis run from Volume 2?It is and they already have.

Iron-boy
05-27-2009, 12:14 PM
Okay, is volume 2 tpb pre-brubaker worth picking up?
I got Hell To Pay Volume 1 today, is it wise to read it although I haven't read any of Brubaker prior story on DD.

Another question, how do you keep you tpb? In plastic bag only or with a board?

Thanks!

Iron-boy
05-27-2009, 02:25 PM
Sorry for double post but, instead of making a whole new thread...
Was "DAREDEVIL: BLOOD OF THE TARANTULA #1 " http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=8634 ever collected in of the TPB? Is it worth picking up as single if not?

James Conniff
05-28-2009, 12:58 AM
Sorry for double post but, instead of making a whole new thread...
Was "DAREDEVIL: BLOOD OF THE TARANTULA #1 " http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=8634 ever collected in of the TPB? Is it worth picking up as single if not?

I'm not sure if it is collected or not, though I would certainly hope so with how good it was. It is worth picking up even as a single.

matthewaos
05-28-2009, 04:03 AM
All of Brubaker's run is fantastic, imo. The sad thing is that he is leaving after this arc. Do we know who the replacement is, btw?

Iron-boy
05-28-2009, 04:26 AM
All of Brubaker's run is fantastic, imo. The sad thing is that he is leaving after this arc. Do we know who the replacement is, btw?

Apparently it Andy Diggle starting #501. I'm not sure if he will stay on it for long though.

Jimmy Holograph
05-28-2009, 05:05 AM
Well I got the impression that Marvel are hoping for Diggle to stay on DD for a long time, they're kinda pumping him as THE next big DD writer.

There was also mention of a story line with The Hood. I hope not to be honest, the Hood is everywhere now because of Dark Reign, and I can't see even Diggle topping what Remender is doing in Punisher.

The question is who will draw the book? Jock is looking less likely, but Aja could still be the man.

yadadaimhollaing
05-28-2009, 04:51 PM
Id honestly start at teh begining of volume 2 and read to the current point. Volume 2 has been excellent the whole way and is a very rewarding read. You dont have much money is fine because you can slowly read along. Start with #1 guardian devil and read to #13 which is the murdoch papers. Brubakers trades then are devil inside and out 1 & 2, hell to pay 1 & 2, cruel and unusual, and lady bullseye.

Dan Felty
05-28-2009, 05:09 PM
Devil in Cell Block D (his first arc) was far and away my favorite Brubaker Daredevil story. It works well on its own and does something a little new with the character. It got a little more re-hashy after that.

Chino
05-29-2009, 02:56 PM
Well I got the impression that Marvel are hoping for Diggle to stay on DD for a long time, they're kinda pumping him as THE next big DD writer.

There was also mention of a story line with The Hood. I hope not to be honest, the Hood is everywhere now because of Dark Reign, and I can't see even Diggle topping what Remender is doing in Punisher.

The question is who will draw the book? Jock is looking less likely, but Aja could still be the man.

Didn't know Lark was also leaving the book. That really sucks...

Iron-boy
05-30-2009, 04:45 PM
What happened to Iron Fist in the Lady Bullseye arc? He was beaten by Black Tarantula and the White Tigress and he was unconscious, but that it, we don't see him anymore.

Out of topic: How come the Stanley Cup finals was in Detroit? Didn't they finished their series in Detroit? So aren't they supose to play in Pittsburgh?

JohnShil
05-30-2009, 10:00 PM
To answer an earlier question, BLOOD OF THE TARANTULA was never collected, neither was ANNUAL #1, also featuring The Tarantula. I assume they'll be in the theoretical second omnibus.

Iron-boy
05-31-2009, 04:58 AM
The annual was collected in the tpb Cruel and Unusual.

Decepticons_Rule
05-31-2009, 05:45 AM
I'd start with the beginning of Bendis' run on Daredevil and work my way to the Brubaker stuff.

Bendis established the tone that Brubaker has continued masterfully.

Iron-boy
06-01-2009, 10:35 AM
I got Murdocks Papers, can I read it and fully understand it? Or are there stuff I need to know from past tpb?

yadadaimhollaing
06-01-2009, 01:23 PM
I got Murdocks Papers, can I read it and fully understand it? Or are there stuff I need to know from past tpb?

its seriously best to start at the begining. murdock papers is the ending to errything that bendis established throughout his run. you can read it and like it but its a bigger payoff when youve read all the other stuff before it.

Iron-boy
06-01-2009, 02:27 PM
its seriously best to start at the begining. murdock papers is the ending to errything that bendis established throughout his run. you can read it and like it but its a bigger payoff when youve read all the other stuff before it.

Alright, what about the Annual issue? Should I read it with #100+ or can I read it now?