What comic did Bucky originally die in?

[Nivek]

I just got Avengers 56, thinking it was the original issue that bucky died, but i found out it was actually a time-travel deal to see if he really died or not. So what issue did he die in?

[T Hedge Coke]

It's always been in flashback, certainly, not real time in-story, but I'd say Avengers 4 would be the first time we see it.

[Scrubz]

The issue he "died" in is Captain America 79, which is an imaginative issue that never really existed. Ed Brubaker discusses this in his interview at the end of Red Menace Vol. 2 if I am not mistaken.

[Expletive Deleted]

Bucky doesn't actually die in the original comics. He lives through the war and does some commie-smashin' with Cap in the '50s.

Then AVENGERS #4 comes along, Stan retcons in Cap's deep freeze near the end of WWII and Bucky's death, and all the post-War Cap and Bucky adventures get retconned into being other guys (with Roy Thomas and Steve Engelhart doing the heavy lifting). Then CAP v5 comes along and Ed retcons Bucky's death.

It's less complicated than I'm making it, certainly, but the long and short of it is that Bucky's "death" was only ever depicted via flashback or time travel.

[RolandJP]

Yeah Bucky Death was a retcon now retconned.

I have the formula.

Joe Simon divided by Stan lee/ Marvel Comics Founder>Continuity = 40 years of death for Bucky Barnes.

Ed Brubaker - Stan Lee= Retcon of Marvel Comics Founder's Retcon.

Pure Comic Book physics.


My question is, if flashbacks are pliable--meaning they are free to be disregarded by future writers as nothing more than a character's POV of a certain event-, couldn't it unravel all of marvel's history?

Spiderman's grandparents arent dead
All of Wolverines backhistory is suspect.
etc.

[deaconsteel]

Yeah, taking a flashback and rewriting it as a mistaken memory is a bit annoying. Not to mention I had a comic book card that specifically stated that Bucky was a fallen hero, and that he was dead.

[JdRavnos]

Well the thing is the memories nor the flashbacks, to my knowledge, were not mistaken. I'm not aware of any contradictions, really. I can't recall them ever showing the body of Bucky. While I confess I haven't read every issue where they flashed back to that event, if there was no corpse I think that leaves it open to say that it could have happened they way Brubaker portrayed it.

[DeadXMan]

Yeah Bucky Death was a retcon now retconned.

I have the formula.

Joe Simon divided by Stan lee/ Marvel Comics Founder>Continuity = 40 years of death for Bucky Barnes.

Ed Brubaker - Stan Lee= Retcon of Marvel Comics Founder's Retcon.

Pure Comic Book physics.
.

or
Big explosion+ no body= no death.

[Leocomix]

Brubaker didn't do a retcon but a continuation showing what happened to Bucky after the jump to his death in Avengers 4/6.
This is why it is endorsed, he doesn't say Lee's story didn't happen.

[RolandJP]

or
Big explosion+ no body= no death.


Ahhhh Hindenburg's law of reverse physics. Also Bucky should speak with a Russian accent.

[DeadXMan]

and it fits nicely into continuity, unlike the other resurrection that DC did (freaking emo fanboy punching reality)

[Drcharles]

I love the whole ' What If # 4 vol I ' bk, that actually turned out to be true...............Amazing
If you haven't read this, you should, its one of the classics.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/0/04/What_If_4.jpg/300px-What_If_4.jpg

[coldstar]

I love the whole ' What If # 4 vol I ' bk, that actually turned out to be true...............Amazing
If you haven't read this, you should, its one of the classics.

I just took your advice and read it. I think I missed the "what if" part, though. :tongue: