The 'ROM Causing Rogue to Become Good' Appreciation Thread

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

(...and being instrumental in her later joining the X-Men)

As everyone knows, while Rogue was with the Brotherhood, she tried to absorb ROM's abilities. Instead, she absorbed part of ROM's inherent goodness and for the first time in her life, gained a feeling of nobility. As stated before, this was fundamental of her later joining the X-Men, in which she has become a very popular X-Man and vital part of X-history since then. So if not for that, Rogue may have still been running around as a villain or in the Brotherhood till this day. I just wanted to point this out.

http://www.mycomicshop.com/blog/post/odinson-s-hails-on-of-the-greatest-heroes-of-all-time
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=56&page=3

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=3513

So in other words...

Thanks, ROM!

[drwho]

Wow thats an interesting piece of info there.

[darknessatnoon]

She also absorbed a Dire Wraith later. Is that why Rogue is a morally ambiguous figure?

[visi]

Wait........so Rogue was only good because she absorbed some guy's goodness. Well, that makes me like the character less

[darknessatnoon]

Wait........so Rogue was only good because she absorbed some guy's goodness. Well, that makes me like the character less

You're new here, so I'll give you some good advice:

Take []D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite's "theories" with a grain of salt.

[timbox]

Who is ROM?

Someone give me a Fraction caption.

[darknessatnoon]

Who is ROM?

Someone give me a Fraction caption.

Alien Robot: Owned by Hasbro.

[drwho]

Did she actually touch Rom or the armor?

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z261/richbob2/Rom.jpg

[timbox]

Alien Robot: Owned by Hasbro.

He sounds magical.

[drwho]

A must see video featuring rom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktFvrEQKdjw

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

You're new here, so I'll give you some good advice:

Take []D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite's "theories" with a grain of salt.

It actually happened.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=3513

http://siskoid.blogspot.com/2008/11/spaceknight-saturdays-hybrids-baaa.html



Did she actually touch Rom or the armor?

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z261/richbob2/Rom.jpg

The armor. I guess you could say it's connected to his body through electronics and circuitry, especially since it replaces a good number of his internal organs.

[drwho]

Wait a minute. Didnt Rogue touch Ms. Marvel and suck her brains out before Rom. Wasnt that where her first appearance was so how do you know it wasnt Ms. Marvels self that started Rogue being good?

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

Alien Robot: Owned by Hasbro.

He sounds magical.

It was actually a very good comic.

http://www.comics101.com/comics101//?mode=project&action=view&project=Comics%20101&chapter=83
http://www.comics101.com/comics101//?mode=project&action=view&project=Comics%20101&chapter=84
http://www.comics101.com/comics101//?mode=project&action=view&project=Comics%20101&chapter=85

One of the best series that Marvel has ever put out.

Most times, it was darker than X-Men

[timbox]

Ms. Marvel is a drunk, not good.

[drwho]

Ms. Marvel is a drunk, not good.

yeah but she was absorbed before she became a drunk.

[darknessatnoon]

yeah but she was absorbed before she became a drunk.

The signs were already there.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

Wait a minute. Didnt Rogue touch Ms. Marvel and suck her brains out before Rom. Wasnt that where her first appearance was so how do you know it wasnt Ms. Marvels self that started Rogue being good?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6xoH967aC00/STFRn79uQbI/AAAAAAAAOxk/b41dOQX9_Eo/s1600-h/rom32-7.jpg

[timbox]

yeah but she was absorbed before she became a drunk.

Good people do not become drunks.

[darknessatnoon]

D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;8742164']http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6xoH967aC00/STFRn79uQbI/AAAAAAAAOxk/b41dOQX9_Eo/s1600-h/rom32-7.jpg

If you "like" being good, then goodness is not the aim of your actions; pleasure is. If pleasure is your motive, then your actions cannot be considered disinterested. If your "good" actions are not disinterested, then your ends cannot be considered "good." St. Thomas Aquinas 101.

Ergo, absorbing Rom did not make Rogue "good."

[drwho]

Hot, or not?Not sure I am too crazy about the purple and the yellow spots.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/5/59/Rom_001.jpg

[Canemacar]

If you "like" being good, then goodness is not the aim of your actions; pleasure is. If pleasure is your motive, then your actions cannot be considered disinterested. If your "good" actions are not disinterested, then your ends cannot be considered "good." St. Thomas Aquinas 101.

He also said homosexuality was comparable to bestiality, so take it for what it's worth.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

Hot, or not?Not sure I am too crazy about the purple and the yellow spots.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/5/59/Rom_001.jpg

Here are better pictures.

http://www.comics101.com/comics101//images/view.php?src=../news/Comics%20101/85/romandbrandy.jpg

http://www.comics101.com/comics101//images/view.php?src=../news/Comics%20101/84/together.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6xoH967aC00/SdYR96WPbyI/AAAAAAAARb4/Z5kCKbG2-LQ/s1600-h/rom48-9.jpg

[darknessatnoon]

He also said homosexuality was comparable to bestiality, so take it for what it's worth.

Sex is always comparable to other kinds of sex.

[drwho]

Comics seemed so harsh those days. Wasnt rom actually trapped in the armor, yet these days armor comes off nice and easy.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;8742190']Here are better pictures.

http://www.comics101.com/comics101//images/view.php?src=../news/Comics%20101/85/romandbrandy.jpg

http://www.comics101.com/comics101//images/view.php?src=../news/Comics%20101/84/together.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6xoH967aC00/SdYR96WPbyI/AAAAAAAARb4/Z5kCKbG2-LQ/s1600-h/rom48-9.jpg

Plus this, I guess.

http://siskoid.blogspot.com/2009/02/spaceknight-saturdays-dream-come-true.html


Comics seemed so harsh those days. Wasnt rom actually trapped in the armor, yet these days armor comes off nice and easy.

Actually, it was more like a cyborg suit. Once you went through the transformation, you ceased being human. The armor actually replaces a lot of your organs (they're kept somewhere until the war is over and you're finished fighting).

[NielsVanEekelen]

Who is ROM?

Someone give me a Fraction caption.

Fraction captions should become the primary form of ID for all people.

[Shaid O Gray]

Wait a minute. Didnt Rogue touch Ms. Marvel and suck her brains out before Rom. Wasnt that where her first appearance was so how do you know it wasnt Ms. Marvels self that started Rogue being good?

Just for the record, she didn't become good 'because she absorbed his goodness and kept it'! This was just the first time in her life she 'saw' someone's nobility up close (Doesn't get much closer than in your head) And to her surprise, she LIKED goodness and nobility.It's very clear from the scene, and frankly from what I can tell, I think that's all []D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite meant.

She also didn't absorb all of it (not even temporarily, ROM was partially immune) so she kept a clear sense of her own self. Unlike with Carol, who just got sucked in, throwing her completely for a loop, not able to see what was already her own stuff and what wasn't.

Btw I absolutlely LOVE that ROM story. It's classic 80's. The somewhat cheezy aspects of the dialogue are just bonus. Drinking game: take a shot every time Hybrid is referred to as a 'horror' Two shots if there's an adjective included. ('hulking horror'!) :biggrin:

I'm switching my icon just cause of this thread.

Always wondered though, did CC get the idea of Rogue's conversion there? Or was he already planning it? Anyone know?

[timbox]

He also said homosexuality was comparable to bestiality, so take it for what it's worth.

I see several similarities.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

Btw I absolutlely LOVE that ROM story. It's classic 80's. The somewhat cheezy aspects of the dialogue are just bonus. Drinking game: take a shot every time Hybrid is referred to as a 'horror' Two shots if there's an adjective included. ('hulking horror'!) :biggrin:


Well to be honest, Dire Wraiths pretty much are horrors. (http://siskoid.blogspot.com/2009/03/spaceknight-saturdays-new-wraiths-and.html)

For starters, they're one of the few sets of Marvel villains who actively kill children.

[BillR]

Good people do not become drunks.

Sure they do. Grow up.

[timbox]

Sure they do. Grow up.

I am in no danger of becoming a drunk when I grow up, if that’s what you’re implying. Thank you for noticing that I am a good person, though.

[Prodigy55]

This is the most confusing thread ever created.

[Robert318]

Good people do not become drunks.

I hope no one reading this actually takes this comment seriously. I don't even know how to respond to it.

[timbox]

I hope no one reading this actually takes this comment seriously. I don't even know how to respond to it.

Hopefully they will take it seriously and it will help prevent them from becoming a drunk.

[Home made ectoplasm]

ROM was a good person because Robots don't drink alcohol

Bender doesn't count

[Waterlily]

D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;8742213']Plus this, I guess.

http://siskoid.blogspot.com/2009/02/spaceknight-saturdays-dream-come-true.html



Actually, it was more like a cyborg suit. Once you went through the transformation, you ceased being human. The armor actually replaces a lot of your organs (they're kept somewhere until the war is over and you're finished fighting).


This is the most confusing thread ever created.

This thread has introduced me to a magical robot suit that improves upon the human design by eating and replacing defective internal organs. My morning has become that much more enjoyable by this knowledge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srwk-i5aXRQ&NR=1

[Home made ectoplasm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srwk-i5aXRQ&NR=1

Waterlily, I think you have unitentionally discovered footage of timbox.

[Bic]

Hopefully they will take it seriously and it will help prevent them from becoming a drunk.
This thread has inspired me to stop being a drunk and become a Spaceknight instead.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

This thread has inspired me to stop being a drunk and become a Spaceknight instead.

Dare I say it?

Spaceknights > X-Men?

http://siskoid.blogspot.com/2008/08/spaceknight-saturdays-rom-vs-x-men-vs.html


:tongue: :biggrin:

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;8742474']Well to be honest, Dire Wraiths pretty much are horrors. (http://siskoid.blogspot.com/2009/03/spaceknight-saturdays-new-wraiths-and.html)

For starters, they're one of the few sets of Marvel villains who actively kill children.

http://fortressofortitude.wordpress.com/2007/02/09/theyre-not-called-friendly-wraiths/

Better example.

[Dagger]

...I don't understand why this is an actual appreciation thread. I liked Rogue, and I love Rom, but this one event doesn't warrant a appreciation thread, imo.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

...I don't understand why this is an actual appreciation thread. I liked Rogue, and I love Rom, but this one event doesn't warrant a appreciation thread, imo.

Well, as mentioned earlier, this was a real turning point for the Rogue character.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=8742325&postcount=27
http://www.mycomicshop.com/blog/post/odinson-s-hails-on-of-the-greatest-heroes-of-all-time

[TJKernan]

As an adult, who is generally considered a good person, and is a little drunk at this moment, this thread makes me feel fuuny.

By the way, for those who didn't read it, Rom was one of the best things Marvel put out in the eighties! i wish they would get those rights and bring him back! Though they would likely ruin the magic, like they have with the X-Men in general these day!

[Aguja]

Rogue is a rapist.

Her victims need to file a class action lawsuit.

[visi]

You're new here, so I'll give you some good advice:

Take []D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite's "theories" with a grain of salt.

I appreciate all good advice and your avatar is the bees knees ( digging Exiles.......at least for now )

[Joe Acro]

I can't determine what the poll means.

Is it some sort of scale? And, if so, in what order?

[visi]

Rogue is a rapist.

Her victims need to file a class action lawsuit.

Yeah , they could hire Julia Roberts to stick out her breasts and make fun of the opposing counsel's fashion sense

[Shaid O Gray]

D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;8742474']Well to be honest, Dire Wraiths pretty much are horrors. (http://siskoid.blogspot.com/2009/03/spaceknight-saturdays-new-wraiths-and.html)

For starters, they're one of the few sets of Marvel villains who actively kill children.

Wraiths, Purifiers...who else? Marauders.

Wait, how did a thread about ROM inspiring Rogue to goodness turn into a thread about child-murderers and alcoholics?? :confused:


Rogue is a rapist.

Her victims need to file a class action lawsuit.

AND rapists!

Hmmm, getting raped by Rogue....:rolleyes:

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

I appreciate all good advice and your avatar is the bees knees ( digging Exiles.......at least for now )

Not a theory. :tongue:


I can't determine what the poll means.

Is it some sort of scale? And, if so, in what order?

Scale or preference. You can take it either way.


Wraiths, Purifiers...who else? Marauders.

I don't see Purifiers and Marauders pulling stuff like this off.

http://siskoid.blogspot.com/2008/10/spaceknight-saturdays-rom-herald-of.html

[Shaid O Gray]

D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;8747263']
I don't see Purifiers and Marauders pulling stuff like this off.

http://siskoid.blogspot.com/2008/10/spaceknight-saturdays-rom-herald-of.html

Uhm, no. But we were talking about child-murdering. Not fighting off Galactus. I can see how the two could be confused, but....

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

Uhm, no. But we were talking about child-murdering. Not fighting off Galactus. I can see how the two could be confused, but....

Yeah, I simply listed the child-murdering as but one example.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

Something else I forgot to mention. Rom is indirectly responsible for Storm losing her powers. The thing that zapped her normal was based of of Rom's weapon.

He also beat the crap out of Gladiator.

Here's another Rom pic, btw.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1504/76913.jpg

[Waterlily]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2059/3529319140_6bef4303bc_o.jpg
by aleks sennwald (http://www.senvald.com/)

[Home made ectoplasm]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OSU3QW3k5XQ/R0oQWCjx_BI/AAAAAAAAACU/Q827y8Gp1tE/s1600-h/rom.jpg
by aleks sennwald (http://www.senvald.com/)

his Galactus is brilliant.

[Babylon23]

Well, I have no opinion on the Rom/Rogue connection, except to say that I loved those issues. Rom was an awesome series and Marvel and Hasbro should reach some sort of agreement to get the series back into print.

[darknessatnoon]

Bump, because I love this thread.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

Bump, because I love this thread.

Maybe this could double as an AA fellowship.

[darknessatnoon]

D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;12002066']Maybe this could double as an AA fellowship.

Rogue has earned her 60 day chip.

[MartinRedmond]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2059/3529319140_6bef4303bc_o.jpg
by aleks sennwald (http://www.senvald.com/)

Wow, that's terrific!

[RuaDragon]

Wait, didn't Dazzler also become a drinker after Rogue absorbed her?

Does that mean that being absorbed by Rogue turns people into alcaholics? (that would explain Wolverine).

[DrDoom616]

Wait, didn't Dazzler also become a drinker after Rogue absorbed her?

Does that mean that being absorbed by Rogue turns people into alcaholics? (that would explain Wolverine).

Mwahahaha half the Marvel Universe should be drunks then in that case :biggrin:

[The Black Guardian]

D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;8742009']So in other words...

Thanks, ROM!
Nah. Rogue was already being affected by Danvers at the time, whether it was Danvers' personality or the fact that she couldn't shake the Danvers personality, and reality slapped her in the face with responsibility.

[Perfection/Emma 2]

Nah. Rogue was already being affected by Danvers at the time, whether it was Danvers' personality or the fact that she couldn't shake the Danvers personality, and reality slapped her in the face with responsibility.

Thank U Black Guardian. Leave it to U to tell it like it is.

[Foon4000]

Was the lingering ghost of Carol Danvers what made Rogue interesting?

[Electric Version]

Wait, how did a thread about ROM inspiring Rogue to goodness turn into a thread about child-murderers and alcoholics?? :confused:
AND rapists!


All threads about Rogue turn into those things.

And, strangely, all threads about Lana Lang as well. Don't ask me how.