Uncanny # 508 Preview

[Flameworthy]

FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMEWORTHY! !!!! Where the HELL have you been?!??!?!!11!

Hey Novaya! I decided to take a break from the boards until there was something interesting happening in the X-books. This preview has definitely piqued my interest.

[Ryan W]

Well this is certainly the most interesting thing to come of this series thus far, IMHO . . . Of course the 6 page previews always seem to read better than the whole issue themselves (SNAP!) but we'll see. It's got Domino in it so it can't be all bad, right?

And for the record, this is not the first time we've seen this burial ground of Logan's. He visited it in his solo series in the late 90s as well. It's where Amiko's mom is buried, and incidentally Chimera attacked Logan there during one of her first appearances.

The only issue I have with the preview? Shouldn't Dom know who Lady D and Spiral are? I can understand her not knowing Chimera, but those other two are kinda BFD X-men villains.

[jarrod]

The only issue I have with the preview? Shouldn't Dom know who Lady D and Spiral are? I can understand her not knowing Chimera, but those other two are kinda BFD X-men villains.
Yeah... actually, didn't Dom fight Spiral in X-Force even, or am I misremembering?

[Ryan W]

No I'm pretty sure that that happened . . . Also Deathstrike was the main villain in her first solo mini series, yes? It was Lady D and Pierce against Domino?

[eurazn]

I thought it was pointless. It was like Fraction would rather write and devote page time to oneshot Japanese cosplayers than to actual X-men.

LOL, those Japanese cosplayers have already had more lines than both Dazzler and Karma since they "rejoined" the X-Men.

I already know that my favourite quotes from this issue will be "Ut--" and "Hhhhhooooooorrrrkkkk".

That Chimera, all the best lines.

She definitely took it to the next level. "ARGH" and "URK" are so passe.

I don't think so. "Vessel" in reference to Psylocke has a loaded meaning. Many men have sailed in that vessel.

HMS Gloriana!

i those those japanese people fighting was more exciting than anything the science team has done

Yes, and I was actually emotionally invested in whether or not their love would be saved! With the science team, however, we already know they're going to fail. Again.

Hey Novaya! I decided to take a break from the boards until there was something interesting happening in the X-books. This preview has definitely piqued my interest.

We missed you, Flameworthy!

[darknessatnoon]

Well this is certainly the most interesting thing to come of this series thus far, IMHO . . . Of course the 6 page previews always seem to read better than the whole issue themselves (SNAP!) but we'll see. It's got Domino in it so it can't be all bad, right?

And for the record, this is not the first time we've seen this burial ground of Logan's. He visited it in his solo series in the late 90s as well. It's where Amiko's mom is buried, and incidentally Chimera attacked Logan there during one of her first appearances.

The only issue I have with the preview? Shouldn't Dom know who Lady D and Spiral are? I can understand her not knowing Chimera, but those other two are kinda BFD X-men villains.

Yeah... actually, didn't Dom fight Spiral in X-Force even, or am I misremembering?

No I'm pretty sure that that happened . . . Also Deathstrike was the main villain in her first solo mini series, yes? It was Lady D and Pierce against Domino?

Where does it say she doesn't know who they are? I think she was too busy to have a lengthy conversation with them. Chimera didn't know who Domino was, and Domino didn't know who Kwannon was. That's about it.

[Olivier]

NO!

its been meh.

you want good, you go to messiah complex, x force, cap britain and mi13, and x factor

Well, Messiah Complex was my last failled try:smile:
The beginning was amazing, there was so much potential. But in the end it was only fighting and questions without answers:

- We have a new mutant and it's a baby but we don't know why.
- There are 2 alternate timelines, one good one bad...okay, it's the only thing we will know.
- Big ending...Xavier is dead...Ahahahah!!!! What an ending, for how many time?

For me, Messiah Complex was just this: Ok, we have a good story but we want you to buy X-men legacy + X-force + X-factor during the next years to have all the chapters.

At least, House Of M, Civil War and Secret Invasion had a real ending even if they had interesting followings (Decimation, Initiative and Dark reign).

Uncanny seemed a little disconnected of MC, it is why I was curious to know the quality of the book at this moment.

[Novaya Havoc]

Where does it say she doesn't know who they are? I think she was too busy to have a lengthy conversation with them. Chimera didn't know who Domino was, and Domino didn't know who Kwannon was. That's about it.

Are you defending Matt Fraction???

Et tu, Brute?

[Anna]

LOL, those Japanese cosplayers have already had more lines than both Dazzler and Karma since they "rejoined" the X-Men.



She definitely took it to the next level. "ARGH" and "URK" are so passe.



HMS Gloriana!



Yes, and I was actually emotionally invested in whether or not their love would be saved! With the science team, however, we already know they're going to fail. Again.



We missed you, Flameworthy!


Karma will soon be starring in New Mutants.

[blehbeh]

Where does it say she doesn't know who they are? I think she was too busy to have a lengthy conversation with them. Chimera didn't know who Domino was, and Domino didn't know who Kwannon was. That's about it.

Domino says "Who are you? What are you doing here?" in the panel with her gun held to Deathstrike's head.

You can interpret it however you want, like assuming she meant "who are you" to the group in general instead of just Deathstrike. But its more then likely Fraction meant for Domino to not know who Deathstrike or any of them were. If that were not the case, something like "what's going on here, Deathstrike?" would have been a more normal thing to say in the situation. Just more Fraction sloppiness.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Cosplayer in maid outfit is JapaneseGuy's lost son! Crafty Fraction!

[darknessatnoon]

Domino says "Who are you? What are you doing here?" in the panel with her gun held to Deathstrike's head.

You can interpret it however you want, like assuming she meant "who are you" to the group in general instead of just Deathstrike. But its more then likely Fraction meant for Domino to not know who Deathstrike or any of them were. If that were not the case, something like "what's going on here, Deathstrike?" would have been a more normal thing to say in the situation. Just more Fraction sloppiness.

Deathstrike has been rebuilt (though not to my specifications. I was hoping for a Sir Deathstrike).

[darknessatnoon]

Are you defending Matt Fraction???

Et tu, Brute?

I am not defending Fraction. I am asking jarrod to shut it with the boring continuity wonk.

[Leogam]

I would like to see Betsy utilize her skills as a Charter Pilot & talk about her past experience as an agent of STRIKE, and talk about her heritage specifically her father who was a top knight of Merlin's from the Magical Otherworld Dimension.
And also about her former boyfriend who was an agent for RCX & STRIKE named Matthew (now known as Gabriel), He proposed to her just before being abducted by Mojo and later being shipped off to the X-Men Line

[SayOcean]

I would like to see Betsy utilize her skills as a Charter Pilot & talk about her past experience as an agent of STRIKE, and talk about her heritage specifically her father who was a top knight of Merlin's from the Magical Otherworld Dimension.
And also about her former boyfriend who was an agent for RCX & STRIKE named Matthew (now known as Gabriel), He proposed to her just before being abducted by Mojo and later being shipped off to the X-Men Lineuhhhhhh thats probably not gonna happen

[wolvie616]

Well, Messiah Complex was my last failled try:smile:
The beginning was amazing, there was so much potential. But in the end it was only fighting and questions without answers:

- We have a new mutant and it's a baby but we don't know why.
- There are 2 alternate timelines, one good one bad...okay, it's the only thing we will know.
- Big ending...Xavier is dead...Ahahahah!!!! What an ending, for how many time?

For me, Messiah Complex was just this: Ok, we have a good story but we want you to buy X-men legacy + X-force + X-factor during the next years to have all the chapters.

At least, House Of M, Civil War and Secret Invasion had a real ending even if they had interesting followings (Decimation, Initiative and Dark reign).

Uncanny seemed a little disconnected of MC, it is why I was curious to know the quality of the book at this moment.


its meh:smile:

[eurazn]

Oops, I meant to combine my posts.

[eurazn]

Karma will soon be starring in New Mutants.

That doesn't change the fact she's had fewer lines than Japanese cosplayers in Uncanny thus far.

Deathstrike has been rebuilt (though not to my specifications. I was hoping for a Sir Deathstrike).

I think you mean LORD Deathstrike.

[Justin K.]

Loving the Mastermind Sisters' return

[Anna]

That doesn't change the fact she's had fewer lines than Japanese cosplayers in Uncanny thus far.



I think you mean LORD Deathstrike.
But her fans will be satisfied

[Peter F.]

But her fans will be satisfied

No thanks to Fraction.

[darknessatnoon]

That doesn't change the fact she's had fewer lines than Japanese cosplayers in Uncanny thus far.



People need to stop making excuses for Fraction, the Cameo King.

[eurazn]

Loving the Mastermind Sisters' return

Great avatar, Justin!

[Vivica Kang]

Okay...so you think that X-23 will die along with elxir???:rolleyes:since i thought domino was going to die...but because this looks like it happened after messiah war i think she made it. and it looks like domino is powerless and dropping hints like crazy!!!:confused:

[paulski]

I want to start reading X-men books with X-men: Manifest destiny hardcover (UXM 500-503 + some manifest destiny stories).

Is it a good moment to start? Is Uncanny a good read since #500?

I would think it's a good place to jump back on - I dropped the book after #494 but am looking at getting the trades between then and now. Mind you, with a $30 price tag for that hardcover (4 issues and some tie-in stories??!), I'll wait for the eventual softcover for those issues. :wink:

[nikbackm]

I would think it's a good place to jump back on - I dropped the book after #494 but am looking at getting the trades between then and now. Mind you, with a $30 price tag for that hardcover (4 issues and some tie-in stories??!), I'll wait for the eventual softcover for those issues. :wink:

You get the HC for less than (barely) $20 at Amazon. It does not contain all the Manifest Destiny stories though. Wolverine Manifest Destiny #1-4, X-Men Manifest Destiny: Nightcrawler #1 and X-Men: Manifest Destiny: Iceman, Nightcrawler, Boom-Boom & Avalanche are collected in a separate (similarly priced) HC.

[paulski]

Yeah, I saw that there was an X-Men:Manifest Destiny collection as well.

Trouble with getting it through Amazon is that, with the shipping cost to Australia, I'm sure it'll come out to something approaching the original $30 pricetag. :frown:

[rZi]

this story arc hasn't gotten me excited at all. Just cameo's and ressurections...i can't see the story or characters progressing further once this story is over, it will have no meaning im certain of it.

[worstblogever]

Loving the Mastermind Sisters' return

How long before there's a panel by Land where it looks like they're going to start making out?

[Dagger]

Karma will soon be starring in New Mutants.
...And that defends the gross character mishandling she's had since being in Uncanny?
But her fans will be satisfied
Satisfied or placated? I feel it's a bit of injustice on the character by the way she was treated on the main team. After being in Marvel for over 20 years she finally gets a chance to be on the main team, and they didn't do crap with her. It was worse than when Cannonball first joined the X-Men. Hell, Husk was developed better than Shan was.

[nikbackm]

Trouble with getting it through Amazon is that, with the shipping cost to Australia, I'm sure it'll come out to something approaching the original $30 pricetag. :frown:

That's a bit of a problem, yes. :smile:

At least here in Europe there are some local Amazons with lower shipping rates, but then again the prices are usually higher which evens it out. The best solution is to just order several things at once in order to spread out the shipping costs a little.

this story arc hasn't gotten me excited at all. Just cameo's and ressurections...i can't see the story or characters progressing further once this story is over, it will have no meaning im certain of it.

The story feels somewhat spoiled already. It will probably just end with the return of a Psylocke/Kwannon amalgam and the Sisterhood driven away but not defeated. Along the way we'll get a Jean tease and a minor character will perhaps be killed off.

Not much to get excited about, but with low expectations it's easier to be pleasantly surprised.

The crossover with the Dark Avengers looks more likely to really stir things up at least.

[Bolebeau]

Okay...so you think that X-23 will die along with elxir???:rolleyes:since i thought domino was going to die...but because this looks like it happened after messiah war i think she made it. and it looks like domino is powerless and dropping hints like crazy!!!:confused:

Is that what she could be doing, dropping hints about being depowered? I didn't really read it that way the first time, but it could be that her captions were all math-like because she no longer has her abilities.

She's compensating for the loss of her abilities with applied mathematics!.

[jarrod]

Wait, are we getting a death during the Sisterhood arc? Is this why the glitterati are suddenly so nervous? :/


For once, I'm glad Ray's in space...

[Olivier]

Yeah, I saw that there was an X-Men:Manifest Destiny collection as well.

Trouble with getting it through Amazon is that, with the shipping cost to Australia, I'm sure it'll come out to something approaching the original $30 pricetag. :frown:

Thanks for your answer:wink:

We have a french Amazon so I can have TPB and Hardcovers with the same prices as in USA and without shipping cost. The only issue is I receive them approximately 3 or 4 weeks after the US release.

[Vivica Kang]

Is that what she could be doing, dropping hints about being depowered? I didn't really read it that way the first time, but it could be that her captions were all math-like because she no longer has her abilities.

She's compensating for the loss of her abilities with applied mathematics!.

my thoughts exactly!!!:redface:

[worstblogever]

Wait, are we getting a death during the Sisterhood arc? Is this why the glitterati are suddenly so nervous? :/


For once, I'm glad Ray's in space...

I'd put my money on it being a return to dirtnapping for Revanche.

[jarrod]

I'd put my money on it being a return to dirtnapping for Revanche.
lol. Poor Kwannon, but that would be hilarious.

[Dagger]

I'd put my money on it being a return to dirtnapping for Revanche.
WHUTTHEFUG! We just get her back, and you already want her back in the ground?!?
lol. Poor Kwannon, but that would be hilarious.
:mad:

[worstblogever]

WHUTTHEFUG! We just get her back, and you already want her back in the ground?!?

:mad:

I've seen too many stories where someone comes back to the dead, only to have to inevitably return in comics, to not think it likely it will turn out this way.

[jarrod]

:mad:
Remember which writer we're dealing with here. I can TOTALLY see this happening...

[Dagger]

I've seen too many stories where someone comes back to the dead, only to have to inevitably return in comics, to not think it likely it will turn out this way.

Remember which writer we're dealing with here. I can TOTALLY see this happening...
http://www.beaugrande.com/Dont%20Rain%20on%20My%20Parade.jpg

[Flameworthy]

We missed you, Flameworthy!

I missed you guys too!

Remember which writer we're dealing with here. I can TOTALLY see this happening...

Maybe but at least some Kwannon is better than no Kwannon.

[Anna]

...And that defends the gross character mishandling she's had since being in Uncanny?

Satisfied or placated? I feel it's a bit of injustice on the character by the way she was treated on the main team. After being in Marvel for over 20 years she finally gets a chance to be on the main team, and they didn't do crap with her. It was worse than when Cannonball first joined the X-Men. Hell, Husk was developed better than Shan was.

No, but since Karma fans have a bit of satisfaction seeing her in another book; we have less to complain about.

[Leogam]

I hope Betsy & Kwannon reswap bodies by the end of the "Sisterhood Arc".
Then Betsy either joins her brother in M:13 or X-Force, and Kwannon becomes a new reoccuring villian for the X-Men & X-Force as an assasin for the Hand or Mauraders, in addition to dyeing her hair back to black

[ExodusCloak]

I hope Betsy & Kwannon reswap bodies by the end of the "Sisterhood Arc"

Doubtful. I see Madelynes charm being underdone by the end of this arc and everything reverting back to the way it was.

[The Thunderbird]

I'd put my money on it being a return to dirtnapping for Revanche.
My bet is on someone under 18.

[Dagger]

My bet is on someone under 18.
Hopefully it's the lame-o Mercury.

[tlp0708]

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I'd LOVE to see Kwannon on X-Force.

[eurazn]

Wait, are we getting a death during the Sisterhood arc? Is this why the glitterati are suddenly so nervous? :/

For once, I'm glad Ray's in space...

Oh please. Fraction's inclusion of X-Women in this series is an afterthought, which is why we get such pivotal moments as Karma eating cereal and Pixie tattling. There's nothing for us Glitterati to be nervous about with the exception of what color Dazzler's new uniform will be while she acts as panel dressing.

My bet is on someone under 18.

It's only a matter of time until Empath comes back to his Red Queen and then bites the dust. He's not exactly 18, but ...

[Prodigy55]

Hopefully it's the lame-o Mercury.

Hopefully it's your lame-o face xoxoxo

[eurazn]

Hopefully it's your lame-o face xoxoxo

Eloquently put, Prodigy55, lol! At least it wasn't Windancer who was mentioned :tongue:

[lockerogue]

Oh please. Fraction's inclusion of X-Women in this series is an afterthought, which is why we get such pivotal moments as Karma eating cereal and Pixie tattling. There's nothing for us Glitterati to be nervous about with the exception of what color Dazzler's new uniform will be while she acts as panel dressing.



It's only a matter of time until Empath comes back to his Red Queen and then bites the dust. He's not exactly 18, but ...

I highly doubt it's going to be Empath. Mainly because of New Mutants starting in May.

[Leogam]

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I'd LOVE to see Kwannon on X-Force.

Well hopefully if Betsy goes to Captain Britain & the M:13 book, maybe we can keep Kwannon in X-Force or as a new villian

[Flameworthy]

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I'd LOVE to see Kwannon on X-Force.

Your not the only one. I think X-Force would be a perfect book for her since she obviously has no problems with killing.

[peopleofpaper]

I hope Betsy & Kwannon reswap bodies by the end of the "Sisterhood Arc".


I agree so much. It has always been something I wanted to happen, but I assume Kwannon is going to be brought back for a couple issues and then be dead again. Psylocke will still be in the Asian body :rolleyes:

[eurazn]

I agree so much. It has always been something I wanted to happen, but I assume Kwannon is going to be brought back for a couple issues and then be dead again. Psylocke will still be in the Asian body :rolleyes:

You think so? I find it oddly coincidental that you have a woman defying nature by raising people from the dead while R'Chel and Korvus McCloud find their phoenix fragments taken from them. Revanche's psychic energy was already dispersed across the planet when she died, so maybe her body will house the resurrected spirit of Jean Grey :eek: !

[CmX]

I doubt it. I think all of this Kwannon business has something to do with Psylocke's return.

[eurazn]

I doubt it. I think all of this Kwannon business has something to do with Psylocke's return.

Just like all of those Uncanny covers were heralding Dazzler's return? I fear Psylocke will be Dazzler and Karma 2.0. Cereal never tasted so sweet and panel dressing was never more elegant :biggrin:

[Justin K.]

Will Psylocke return to buttfloss or keep the purple?

[Bolebeau]

Psylocke without buttfloss is like Jean without... uh, dying every other year.

[the Hornet]

I agree so much. It has always been something I wanted to happen, but I assume Kwannon is going to be brought back for a couple issues and then be dead again. Psylocke will still be in the Asian body :rolleyes:

I really am a Fabian fan but the whole Betsy-Kwannon body swap needs to be retconed. I prefered Claremont's original "hand used magic and tech. to change her features to that of an Asian". There really has been a woman I read about who had plastic surgercy to look more asian so in the superhero world this works for me.

[Peter F.]

Psylocke without buttfloss is like Jean without... uh, dying every other year.

So... better?

[Bolebeau]

So... better?

Stop twisting my words, you spindoctor!

My favourite Betsy outfits were the first two she wore as an X-Man though, so I guess I agree with you there.

Well played.

[XaviersMisprint]

I don't understand why everyone mocks Karma for "only eating cereal on panel" as if thats all she ever does. Its foreshadowing, you illiterate bastards.

Karma appearing eating cereal is part of her incredibly overlooked subplot, leading up to the summer event crossover "The Return of Fat Karma". Ever since "Worlds Apart", the Shadow King has been festering inside of her after being defeated from Storm and he has been forcing her to eat sugar cereals on every panel, eventually making her obese and PHAT.

You fanboys/girls need to open up your eyes and use your minds. Don't read this at face value, it is OBVIOUS that the cereal eating is intentional and not just filler-worthy. ;-D

[Bronze Badger]

I don't understand why everyone mocks Karma for "only eating cereal on panel" as if thats all she ever does. Its foreshadowing, you illiterate bastards.

Karma appearing eating cereal is part of her incredibly overlooked subplot, leading up to the summer event crossover "The Return of Fat Karma". Ever since "Worlds Apart", the Shadow King has been festering inside of her after being defeated from Storm and he has been forcing her to eat sugar cereals on every panel, eventually making her obese and PHAT.

You fanboys/girls need to open up your eyes and use your minds. Don't read this at face value, it is OBVIOUS that the cereal eating is intentional and not just filler-worthy. ;-D

To better supprt your theory she should be eating McGriddles.

[psycwave]

Reading over some posts in this thread, the Kwannon love has made me sick.

[tlp0708]

Reading over some posts in this thread, the Kwannon love has made me sick.

That's okay. Ruby love makes me sick. :tongue:

[orkoni1]

RUBY!!!! Did someone say Ruby?! OMG I LOVE HER!!!!

[nikbackm]

RUBY!!!! Did someone say Ruby?! OMG I LOVE HER!!!!

But do you love her so much that it makes you sick?

[eurazn]

RUBY!!!! Did someone say Ruby?! OMG I LOVE HER!!!!

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/koolaid.jpg

Ruby's fond of bursting through walls.

[Anna]

Erista love makes me sick.

[Dafyr]

Only when love is done right is it ever painful eh?

[Pixie_Solanas]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/koolaid.jpg

Ruby's fond of bursting through walls.

LULZ! OH YEAAAAH!

[MartinRedmond]

eurazn=poster of the month.

[Pixie_Solanas]

eurazn=poster of the month.

For that well-placed Kool Aid Man = Ruby analogy? Oh god yes. It will be hard to beat DiamondHart, however.

[Bronze Badger]

For that well-placed Kool Aid Man = Ruby analogy? Oh god yes. It will be hard to beat DiamondHart, however.

I'm totally voting for DiamondHart or Perfection/Emma2.

[MartinRedmond]

I have to withdraw my eurazn nomination now that you guys've given me food for thought.

[eurazn]

eurazn=poster of the month.

For that well-placed Kool Aid Man = Ruby analogy? Oh god yes. It will be hard to beat DiamondHart, however.

I'm totally voting for DiamondHart or Perfection/Emma2.

I have to withdraw my eurazn nomination now that you guys've given me food for thought.

I've been relegated to the same class of poster as DiamondHart? *wounded!*

[MartinRedmond]

Nah, you're just 2 cool for that non-award.