Could X-Men Forever become the new Flagship series/change in to Uncanny?

[Winghead]

Does anyone think that this series may morph in to Uncanny and become the new Flagship series? Most people seem to hate the recent direction of X-Men,and this is a great team being featured in this book. Claremont working with these particular characters has always been successful no matter what era.

[MartinRedmond]

YES! PLEASE! The art will soon switch back and forth between:Travel Foreman with Matt Milla and JP Leon with Sienkiewicz, it will be bad ass.

[timbox]

Chris Claremont can sell more books than all of the other X-books combined. Sales figures alone prove that X-Men: Forever is the flagship title.

[Darth Logan]

Ew no. I would not look forward to retconning 30 years of stories. And sorry, but Claremont is played out. His style is too old school compared to other writers.

[Prodigy55]

Chris Claremont, you are getting quite ridiculous! Stop with the sockpuppets.

[Gene M.]

Absolutely not. This series is going to be godawful.

[chickrockguitar]

Chris Claremont can sell more books than all of the other X-books combined.I think you mean Chris Yost & Craig Kyle can sell more books than all of the other X-books combined.




Well at least on this from Anyway. :biggrin:

[Optic Rage!]

What can i even say?

[Novaya Havoc]

I already know in my heart that X-Men: Forever is better than Matt Fraction's Uncanny X-Men.

[Hakael]

Most people don't hate the direction of the X-line, they may be left unsatisfied with Uncanny at the moment... but I don't think people are running to hit the reset button.

[Sentinel K]

Does anyone think that this series may morph in to Uncanny and become the new Flagship series? Most people seem to hate the recent direction of X-Men,and this is a great team being featured in this book. Claremont working with these particular characters has always been successful no matter what era.

Most people?

How many people have you asked?

[Seres]

Eventually. Once X-Men: Forever proves a success you'll get an X-Factor: Forever followed by a New Mutants: Forever. And then these books will become more popular than the original line, and everything will be cancelled apart from the books Chris Claremont writes. Sage will replace Cyclops as leader of the X-Men, Moira will return, Beast will lose his fur, Phoenix and Cyclops will get married, Dazzler and Nocturne will get married, Rogue will be cured and marry Gambit, Bishop won't kill any babies anymore, Psylocke will become British, and nothing will ever have to change ever again.

[Winghead]

At least on these boards, if you look at my favorite writers of the last decade, around 100 people voted and not one person voted for Brubaker or Fraction which is pretty sad. Carey got a decent amount of votes and surprisingly so did Claremont. Sales are dwindling big time too. 71,000 for Uncanny and 56,000 for Legacy, so obviously something is wrong.

[timbox]

I will stop loving Bishop forever if he no longer kills babies. That is totally against his whole character.

[Hakael]

At least on these boards, if you look at my favorite writers of the last decade, around 100 people voted and not one person voted for Brubaker or Fraction which is pretty sad. Carey got a decent amount of votes and surprisingly so did Claremont. Sales are dwindling big time too. 71,000 for Uncanny and 56,000 for Legacy, so obviously something is wrong.

Bru's run was a bit of a snore, and Fraction's run has been pretty lackluster. It doesn't shock me to see the numbers like that. Legacy is down at that number because its basically a Xavier solo title right now, all things considered, I think that book is selling pretty well for what it is.

I don't think anything is wrong, but I think there's room for improvement...

[Winghead]

Cyclops, Jean Grey, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Gambit, Rogue, Kitty Pryde, Storm, Beast, and Professor X. The official Forever team as of issue number 2. That is a sick team. All my favorites.

[timbox]

Cyclops, Jean Grey, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Gambit, Rogue, Kitty Pryde, Storm, Beast, and Professor X. The official Forever team as of issue number 2. That is a sick team. All my favorites.

Don't forget Sage is undercover.

[Josef F.]

Chris Claremont, you are getting quite ridiculous! Stop with the sockpuppets.

It's catching on!!!

And look, it just used 90's slang.
How "sick" is that!
Oh Dreamboat.

[Disco Jess Minge]

I don't think it's Dreamboat. Probably Beyerstein from the rama. Real delusional CC troll.

[MartinRedmond]

My panties are in a bunch now, I'm so upset. Please stop trolling, I beg you etc.. I'm gonna google other forums to find out who this is, because this is very important to me etcetera

[creaky]

I don't think it's Dreamboat. Probably Beyerstein from the rama. Real delusional CC troll.

Beyerstein used short sentences without punctuation, IIRC. But that could of course be a way to throw us off.

[Sentinel K]

At least on these boards, if you look at my favorite writers of the last decade, around 100 people voted and not one person voted for Brubaker or Fraction which is pretty sad. Carey got a decent amount of votes and surprisingly so did Claremont. Sales are dwindling big time too. 71,000 for Uncanny and 56,000 for Legacy, so obviously something is wrong.

That means bugger all.

I haven't voted.

I'm above it.

I'm enjoying Fraction just fine.

Yeah something IS wrong. The world's economy is fucked. Have you not noticed?

[Darth Logan]

At least on these boards, if you look at my favorite writers of the last decade, around 100 people voted and not one person voted for Brubaker or Fraction which is pretty sad. Carey got a decent amount of votes and surprisingly so did Claremont. Sales are dwindling big time too. 71,000 for Uncanny and 56,000 for Legacy, so obviously something is wrong.

If you think Forever will outsell either of those books you're crazy.

[NielsVanEekelen]

New Mutants: Forever

...

I'd buy that, too.

...and nothing will ever have to change ever again.

Things probably changed more under Claremont than during any other extended run.

There were X-characters who didn't even know what "status quo" meant.

[Excelsior]

I don't think it's Dreamboat. Probably Beyerstein from the rama. Real delusional CC troll.

Wha??

GRRRRRRRRRRR Who took my number one spot.


I think X-force and X-factor are tied as the flagship titles right now.

Exiles is coming up. And I hope New Mutants joins the group.

[Blade X]

Does anyone think that this series may morph in to Uncanny and become the new Flagship series? Most people seem to hate the recent direction of X-Men,and this is a great team being featured in this book. Claremont working with these particular characters has always been successful no matter what era.

The chances of this ever happening are very slim, but it is possible. I just think that the odds of this happening are stacked against it 10 to 1.

[Winghead]

I never said that Forever would sell better than the titles that are considered in continuity, although I do expect it to sell double to triple what a first class book would sell. What I said was if they decided to put Claremont on Uncanny again with this storyline, it would sell far better than Uncanny is selling now. and it is a really great team.

[Blade X]

Chris Claremont, you are getting quite ridiculous! Stop with the sockpuppets.

Do you have concrete evidence/proof that he/she is really CC? Do you know something that the rest of us don't know?

[Dagger]

At least on these boards, if you look at my favorite writers of the last decade, around 100 people voted and not one person voted for Brubaker or Fraction which is pretty sad. Carey got a decent amount of votes and surprisingly so did Claremont. Sales are dwindling big time too. 71,000 for Uncanny and 56,000 for Legacy, so obviously something is wrong.
Umm...maybe it's the global DEPRESSION we're currently in?

[sneggz]

This isn't DC. So no retcon punch to make Forever the new flagship.

[Blade X]

I never said that Forever would sell better than the titles that are considered in continuity, although I do expect it to sell double to triple what a first class book would sell. What I said was if they decided to put Claremont on Uncanny again with this storyline, it would sell far better than Uncanny is selling now. and it is a really great team.

My bad. In that case, then I agree with you that if CC wrote the XMF storyline in the UXM series it would MOST LIKELY sell a hell of a lot better then UXM is currently selling right now. Of course TPTB at Marvel would never do that because (this is only MY THEORY and I could be wrong) they don't want XMF to succeed.

[Blade X]

This isn't DC. So no retcon punch to make Forever the new flagship.

I guess you haven't been reading the same Marvel comics I have been reading over the past 9 years. Since Quesada became EIC, Marvel has been trying to become DC.

[darknessatnoon]

I will be buying 10 copies of each issue of Forever (I already have several subscriptions to Marvel Digital Online under various email accounts so that I could support the Forever preview); clearly, I have faith this book will drive the others into the ground. But I think Uncanny X-Men is now beneath Claremont. He has soared to such heights of greatness that only Editor In Chief is an acceptable position. Then he can merge both DC and Marvel into one unified company where Wonder Woman and Storm can both get tentacles shoved up their unmentionables.

[Dagger]

I will be buying 10 copies of each issue of Forever (I already have several subscriptions to Marvel Digital Online under various email accounts so that I could support the Forever preview); clearly, I have faith this book will drive the others into the ground. But I think Uncanny X-Men is now beneath Claremont. He has soared to such heights of greatness that only Editor In Chief is an acceptable position. Then he can merge both DC and Marvel into one unified company where Wonder Woman and Storm can both get tentacles shoved up their unmentionables.
I'd buy it.

[Agent_Torpor]

Forever will be the alpha and omega. There can be nothing else.

[Go Go]

Eventually. Once X-Men: Forever proves a success you'll get an X-Factor: Forever followed by a New Mutants: Forever. And then these books will become more popular than the original line, and everything will be cancelled apart from the books Chris Claremont writes.


Really? Seriously?

Unfortunately for Claremont (and his fans, and I guess fortunately for those of us who don't like his writing) it seems that the only titles that get cancelled anymore are his.

[darknessatnoon]

Really? Seriously?

Unfortunately for Claremont (and his fans, and I guess fortunately for those of us who don't like his writing) it seems that the only titles that get cancelled anymore are his.

Did that post seem serious to you? Seriously? Really? If so, consider having yourself checked.

[just another user]

I will support this title by tradewaiting. Love me some CC.

[Agent_Torpor]

I will support this title by tradewaiting. Love me some CC.

You should purchase both floppy and trade. CC deserves no less than unending support, financially and emotionally.

[just another user]

You should purchase both floppy and trade. CC deserves no less than unending support, financially and emotionally.

at $3.99 an issue? only if it comes with free acid.

[paulski]

Chris Claremont can sell more books than all of the other X-books combined. Sales figures alone prove that X-Men: Forever is the flagship title.

Wait... did I just get pulled into some kind of timewarp and end up back in the 90's? Because I think that was the last time a Claremont book outsold the other X-titles.

Personally, with his recent track record, I'd be very surprised if this book was still around after the first year or so.

[Darth Logan]

at $3.99 an issue? only if it comes with free acid.

Hey, that just might make it readable!

[DeniseXfrost]

Are you only capable of talking about CC?

[Blade X]

Really? Seriously?

Unfortunately for Claremont (and his fans, and I guess fortunately for those of us who don't like his writing) it seems that the only titles that get cancelled anymore are his.

YOUNG X-MEN,NEW X-MEN:ACADEMY X,ULTIMATE X-MEN,ULTIMATE FANTASTIC FOUR,GHOST RIDER,THE IMMORTAL IRON FIST,THE ORDER, NEXTWAVE,HEROES FOR HIRE,X-MEN FIRST CLASS,NEW WARRIORS, AMAZING SPIDER-GIRL,and CABLE & DEADPOOL.

[darknessatnoon]

YOUNG X-MEN,NEW X-MEN:ACADEMY X,ULTIMATE X-MEN,ULTIMATE FANTASTIC FOUR,GHOST RIDER,THE IMMORTAL IRON FIST,THE ORDER, NEXTWAVE,HEROES FOR HIRE,X-MEN FIRST CLASS,NEW WARRIORS, AMAZING SPIDER-GIRL,and CABLE & DEADPOOL.

Go Go,

Be warned. Blade X collects canceled titles and wears them like a chain of skulls around his neck.

[TJKernan]

at $3.99 an issue? only if it comes with free acid.


Now, that would be freakin sweet!

Seriously though, The Man don't control CC enough. They don't want him too successful, and don't want him on flagship titles when they can have younger cronies churn out mediocre snoozefests.

Better he be given this free reign to write up some interesting stuff (and hopefully, interesting classic X-Men run and not highway death accident interesting like that awful Exiles run)

[just another user]

I am one of the biggest CC fans on here, I even liked Nexiles, but the preview for Forever has left me underwhelmed. Hopefully when it comes out it will turn out to be very entertaining. Hope it gets a chance to run for a few years before it gets cancelled.

I'd love it to go 17 years but I can't see that happening.

[timbox]

I'd love it to go 17 years but I can't see that happening.

How many fortnight is that?

[Dagger]

I am one of the biggest CC fans on here, I even liked Nexiles, but the preview for Forever has left me underwhelmed. Hopefully when it comes out it will turn out to be very entertaining. Hope it gets a chance to run for a few years before it gets cancelled.

I'd love it to go 17 years but I can't see that happening.
It could possibly be the art. His art bored me even when he was a 'hot artist' who got Superman and Superboy.

[just another user]

How many fortnight is that?

the plural is fortnights you dumb yank

yeah Dagz, I'm not really that keen on the art. Would have liked Bachalo, Quietly or Kordey but that was never going to happen.

[timbox]

the plural is fortnights you dumb yank

Reported!!

[Josef F.]

YOUNG X-MEN - Guggenheim
NEW X-MEN:ACADEMY X - DeFillipis & Weir
ULTIMATE X-MEN - Kirkman/Coilette
ULTIMATE FANTASTIC FOUR - Bendis/Millar
GHOST RIDER - Aaron.
THE IMMORTAL IRON FIST - Not cancelled
THE ORDER - Fraction
NEXTWAVE - Ellis (He only intended to write it for 12 issues, which he accomplished)
HEROES FOR HIRE - Wells
X-MEN FIRST CLASS - Parker
NEW WARRIORS - Greivoux
AMAZING SPIDER-GIRL - DeFalco
CABLE & DEADPOOL. - Niciezia

Caremont left UXM to go to these two :
Exiles - Claremont
New Excalibur - Claremont

Which were then cancelled to be replaced by

New Exiles - Claremont

Stop using facts in such a strange way.

[Aguja]

I shall buy a 1000s copies of every issue to make sure it does.

How shall we celebrate the inevitable demise of all the other X-Titles?

[TJKernan]

Yeah, the art is a little off-putting, very early ninties, but a chance to see the X-Men the way I remember them when they were a fun read is just too alluring.

Bachalo would have been sweet though, but I think you need to establish the whole just outta X-Men #3 first before you get a little wilder...

[just another user]

I shall buy a 1000s copies of every issue to make sure it does.

How shall we celebrate the inevitable demise of all the other X-Titles?

By mocking our foes on the internet and starting a lot of new threads.

[darknessatnoon]

I shall buy a 1000s copies of every issue to make sure it does.

How shall we celebrate the inevitable demise of all the other X-Titles?

Ah, Seres (male). OK. Got it.

[Jack Flash]

How many fortnight is that?

I think it's about a score of them.

[just another user]

I think it's about a score of them.

Do you not have a depressing documentary you're meant to be watching?

[Jack Flash]

Do you not have a depressing documentary you're meant to be watching?

FINISHED!

This book will be good in the same way that parachute pants are.

[just another user]

FINISHED!

This book will be good in the same way that parachute pants are.

I used to have parachute pants but I accidentally burnt a hole in them.

They were cool while they lasted.

X Men : Forever will also be cool while it lasts.

[Jack Flash]

I used to have parachute pants but I accidentally burnt a hole in them.

They were cool while they lasted.

X Men : Forever will also be cool while it lasts.

Parachute pants were too expensive, so my mom wouldn't let me have a pair.

X-Men: Forever is too expensive, so my boyfriend won't let me buy any of them.

This is the true connection.

[TJKernan]

FINISHED!

This book will be good in the same way that parachute pants are.

Huh? I can't say I heard much clammoring for parachute pants prior to their introduction.

CC on X-Men, bringing back the golden era of a title that has sunk into the mundane, there are some ardent dreamers looking for those sweetnesses!

[just another user]

Parachute pants were too expensive, so my mom wouldn't let me have a pair.

X-Men: Forever is too expensive, so my boyfriend won't let me buy any of them.

This is the true connection.

Freddy is harsh but fair. I'll let you flick through my trades.

[Aguja]

Ah, Seres (male). OK. Got it.

What does this mean? Elaborate, please.