View Full Version : CAPTAIN ATOM getting backup/feature in ACTION COMICS
schuman
04-01-2009, 02:04 PM
I hope this isn't a spoiler or in the wrong forum, but DC Nation announced Captain Atom as a back-up for Action Comics. Pretty exciting. Is there any more info on this?
The only news that I read (over at newsarama) is Rucka & Robinson are the writers. I know it starts in July (#879). I hope they can restore Cap to his former glory!
schuman
04-01-2009, 02:38 PM
James Robinson and Greg Rucka writing? Wow!
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/040901-DiDio-20A.html
Yodazone
04-01-2009, 03:12 PM
So that officially makes Action Comics a $3.99 book now....
:rolleyes:
Alex Smith
04-01-2009, 03:13 PM
So that officially makes Action Comics a $3.99 book now....
:rolleyes:
Which, without Superman, is probably enough to make me drop it.
Babylon23
04-01-2009, 03:45 PM
I loved the Bates/Broderick series from the 80's. I'm glad to see Captain Atom getting a chance to shine again. Hopefully Rucka and Robinson can give him a new lease on life. I'll be checking this out.
Doc Goblin
04-01-2009, 04:15 PM
Awesome. Let the redeeming/ignoring of that stupid Countdown crap begin. Robinson/Rucka collaborating on Captain Atom sounds like it'll be great.
Retro315
04-01-2009, 04:23 PM
It will definitely be nice for Captain Atom to FINALLY get out of the whole Monarch shadow ... I wonder if this'll tie into what Rucka and Robinson have been doing with S:WoNK. At any rate, Cap Atom could definitely use a little bit of re-imagining (or if they insist on keeping Monarch in the picture, at least those two might have a new idea for him that doesn't suck).
Personally, I dug the Manhattan-esque full-circle Captain Atom Morrison was just playing with (but I'm not sure that'd work in the DCU proper outside of Multiversal stories).
Awesome. Let the redeeming/ignoring of that stupid Countdown crap begin. Robinson/Rucka collaborating on Captain Atom sounds like it'll be great.
Somehow I strongly doubt that's what's going to happen. I smell more Multiverse garbage.
Doc Goblin
04-01-2009, 04:46 PM
Somehow I strongly doubt that's what's going to happen. I smell more Multiverse garbage.
Any reason why?
I'd be surprised to see that. For one, I just see no way that either Rucka or Robinson view how the character was handled in Countdown as anything good. It's Greg Rucka. He's more likely to ground Captain Atom with military things than go running around the multiverse. I don't know about Robinson. Plus hasn't Didio said Morrison is getting first crack at exploring the multiverse? Not that the things that he says are always true.
CYOTI
04-01-2009, 05:12 PM
Somehow I strongly doubt that's what's going to happen. I smell more Multiverse garbage. Somehow I doubt you have any idea what you are talking about given that no one have even started working on the stories yet.
The character has been firmly entrenched in the Multiverse for years, has he not? I don't see DC changing that. I hope they do, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Doc Goblin
04-01-2009, 05:53 PM
The character has been firmly entrenched in the Multiverse for years, has he not? I don't see DC changing that. I hope they do, but I wouldn't bet on it.
I'm not a Captain Atom expert, but I don't think so. Besides Countdown, I don't remember him ever really entrenched in the Multiverse firmly or otherwise. There was that limited series of his right before Countdown where he crossed over to Wildstorm, but that's it. Most stories I've read with him had him as just a member of the Justice League and military kind of superhero.
CYOTI
04-01-2009, 07:17 PM
The character has been firmly entrenched in the Multiverse for years, has he not? I don't think you have any idea of the character outside from Countdown. Seeing how everyone is ignoring Countdown and that they are calling the backup Captain Atom instead of Monarch, they are going back to the roots of the character namely a military superhero, which ties in with the current stuff in the Superman books.
And off the top of my head there are a bunch of ways to retcon what they did to him in Countdown either that it was an evil version from another earth or his quantum clone.
Cap Atom could definitely use a little bit of re-imagining...
...And since Action is a Code-approved book, that rules out changing his image so now he's dangling a big chrome schlong.
I'm not a Captain Atom expert, but I don't think so. Besides Countdown, I don't remember him ever really entrenched in the Multiverse firmly or otherwise.
...He had a series that ran for almost five years - 57 issues - before being cancelled due to the events of Armageddon 2001, with the four originally scheduled but cancelled issues #58 - #61 of his series being reworked and retitled into a spinoff miniseres called Armageddon: The Alien Agenda. During that time, he was seriously entrenched in the DCU, became a member of at least two versions of the Justice League, and continued to pop up from time to time to time all the way up to Infinite Crisis. Afterwards, they rammed a corncob up his butt in Battle for Bludhaven, turned him into Monarch for real, and everything really went to hell from there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Atom
Doc Goblin
04-01-2009, 09:12 PM
...He had a series that ran for almost five years - 57 issues - before being cancelled due to the events of Armageddon 2001, with the four originally scheduled but cancelled issues #58 - #61 of his series being reworked and retitled into a spinoff miniseres called Armageddon: The Alien Agenda. During that time, he was seriously entrenched in the DCU, became a member of at least two versions of the Justice League, and continued to pop up from time to time to time all the way up to Infinite Crisis. Afterwards, they rammed a corncob up his butt in Battle for Bludhaven, turned him into Monarch for real, and everything really went to hell from there.
I think you misread me or something. I didn't say anything about Captain Atom not being entrenched in the DCU. Just the Multiverse like in Countdown with that crappy Monarch business.
I think you misread me or something. I didn't say anything about Captain Atom not being entrenched in the DCU. Just the Multiverse like in Countdown with that crappy Monarch business.
...Well, it all did start following Bludhaven, if that's what you mean. Prior to that, he pretty much was stuck in the DCU like everyone else.
Retro315
04-01-2009, 09:50 PM
Here would be where a little Doctor Manhattan influence would work to dig a great character out of a lame jam - Doc Manhattan could duplicate himself in practically limitless numbers ... might as well make Monarch an "evil duplicate" and the real Captain Atom kept elsewhere all along (perhaps under study, considering the whole "evil nuclear clone" running around).
Man there are a lot of "atom" superheroes in DC. Captain Atom. The Atom. The Atom. The Atomic Knights. The Atom. Atom Smasher. Damage.
marshal99
04-01-2009, 09:56 PM
They actually already did the split evil nathaniel adams monarch & captain atom in extreme justice.
I don't think you have any idea of the character outside from Countdown. Seeing how everyone is ignoring Countdown and that they are calling the backup Captain Atom instead of Monarch, they are going back to the roots of the character namely a military superhero, which ties in with the current stuff in the Superman books.
And off the top of my head there are a bunch of ways to retcon what they did to him in Countdown either that it was an evil version from another earth or his quantum clone.
I read JLE back in the day and the Ostrander issues of his series.
And, like I said in the parts you didn't quote, I hope they do ignore Countdown and bring the character back to the days when he was done well. I guess we'll find out when the book comes out.
Sean Walsh
04-02-2009, 07:22 AM
Dan Didio confirmed yesterday at Newsarama that Captain Atom will be getting his own backup/feature in ACTION COMICS in the next few months. It'll be co-written by Jim Robinson and Greg Rucka.
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/040901-DiDio-20A.html
NRAMA: Explain the choice of Captain Atom in light of what you said before – that these are characters or teams that could support their own series or miniseries. Captain Atom – really?
DD: Captain Atom had his own series in the ‘80s and into the ‘90s, but he has also been a prominent character in the DC Universe over the course of the past few years, and is a key figure in the DC Universe. He’s going to be returning to be a key figure in the DC Universe, and this is a great way to bring him back into the public eye.
WorstThingUS
04-02-2009, 10:43 AM
Are they going to give him back some balls. That whiny "I just wanna be loved like Superman" thing Loeb through on him was even worse than the idea of him being a villain. At least the latter took some sack!
Mat001
04-02-2009, 01:02 PM
This is something that's been planned for a while. I think this is basically explaining why he became Monarch and how he'll go back to being his old self.
CYOTI
04-02-2009, 05:13 PM
I read JLE back in the day and the Ostrander issues of his series.
So you have basically never read much of the character. Ostrander's and the JLE stuff were very different in tone from the stuff that Cary Bates created for the post-crisis character.
Will.S
04-02-2009, 05:59 PM
I think no matter what they do with him Captain Atom is never really going to catch on.
Although I do like the character and the way he was done in the cartoon.
booziehand
04-02-2009, 06:26 PM
interesting...thats all i will say since i know nothing about Captain Atom at all I'm afraid
Back in the late 80's DC launched their versions of the Charlton heroes that they had bought around 1985.
Capt Atom lasted 57 issues. Cary Bates & Pat Broderick were the first creative team. Bates wrote #1-50.
Blue Beetle (Ted Kord) lasted 24 issues. Len Wein & Paris Cullins started the book. Wein wrote all 24 issues.
The Question lasted 41 issues (36 monthly/ 5 quarterly issues). The book was done by Denny O'Neil & Denys Cowan. O'Neil wrote all the issues & Cowan did the art on most of the series.
All 3 series were excellent.
Seraku
04-02-2009, 08:51 PM
Atom is another character I'd be interested in Robinson working on.
Mon-el
04-02-2009, 09:09 PM
Back in the late 80's DC launched their versions of the Charlton heroes that they had bought around 1985.
Capt Atom lasted 57 issues. Cary Bates & Pat Broderick were the first creative team. Bates wrote #1-50.
Blue Beetle (Ted Kord) lasted 24 issues. Len Wein & Paris Cullins started the book. Wein wrote all 24 issues.
The Question lasted 41 issues (36 monthly/ 5 quarterly issues). The book was done by Denny O'Neil & Denys Cowan. O'Neil wrote all the issues & Cowan did the art on most of the series.
All 3 series were excellent.
They were excellent.
dupersuper
04-03-2009, 04:45 PM
I'm just hoping he's back to his heroic self...
Zero Hunter
04-03-2009, 05:29 PM
I just hope they undo all that craptasic Monarch garbage they put Cap through in Countdown.
Zero Hunter
04-03-2009, 05:39 PM
Things didn't really go bad for Cap until he was drawn into the vortex of suck that was Countdown. Before that even in the Monarch armor he was still pretty cool. His aperance in the Ion mini series were Kyle met up with him in the Bleed was actully pretty good, and Cap still seemed like himself. It was after that when Countdown started and all of a sudden he was this meglomanic super evil control freak that everything about the character just went sideways hard.
Maybe they are just going to say that all the extra power he had just made him lose his mind, and after his fight with Superboy Prime in Countdown his power levels are back to normal and he is sane again and jsut go from their with him trying to pick up the pieces of his life.
They were excellent.
I wish DC would release some trades of these series.
Seraku
04-04-2009, 04:51 PM
O'Neil Question is currently being reprinted in tpb, they're about halfway now.
O'Neil Question is currently being reprinted in tpb, they're about halfway now.
Thanks for the info!
Capt Atom lasted 57 issues. Cary Bates & Pat Broderick were the first creative team. Bates wrote #1-50.
Blue Beetle (Ted Kord) lasted 24 issues. Len Wein & Paris Cullins started the book. Wein wrote all 24 issues.
The Question lasted 41 issues (36 monthly/ 5 quarterly issues). The book was done by Denny O'Neil & Denys Cowan. O'Neil wrote all the issues & Cowan did the art on most of the series.
I think it's vaguely interesting that all three will be backups.
CAPTAIN ATOM will be a backup in ACTION COMICS
QUESTION will be a backup in DETECTIVE COMICS
BLUE BEETLE will be a backup in BOOSTER GOLD
Of the three, we know for a fact that two will be legacy heroes, not the original Charltons.
Will they legacy Captain Atom too for the Action Comics series and try to sell us a new incarnation?
CYOTI
04-05-2009, 08:19 PM
^You are alittle bit late to the game, they alread tried that with Breach and it failed.
Zero Hunter
04-06-2009, 01:35 PM
I think it's vaguely interesting that all three will be backups.
CAPTAIN ATOM will be a backup in ACTION COMICS
QUESTION will be a backup in DETECTIVE COMICS
BLUE BEETLE will be a backup in BOOSTER GOLD
Of the three, we know for a fact that two will be legacy heroes, not the original Charltons.
Will they legacy Captain Atom too for the Action Comics series and try to sell us a new incarnation?
The "legacy" version of Cap is already around. Her name is Bombshell and she is in the Teen Titans.
You're right in that Bombshell is clearly *a* legacy of Captain Atom but that's not quite what I meant...
Slaughter
04-08-2009, 11:19 PM
I just hope they undo all that craptasic Monarch garbage they put Cap through in Countdown.
What are you talking about? That never existed. What is this "Countdown" you speak about? Last time I saw Cap Atom was when he blew up Bludhavên. And he was still sane enough to evacuate the place. Also, Hawk is the Monarch, just in case someone else missed this twenty-years old spoiler.
Repeat everything I said twenty times, then proceed reading this.
Let's start this phrase again:
"I just hope..."
Slaughter
04-08-2009, 11:50 PM
It would be interesting to see him pick the pieces of his life...
"My god, I spent the last year being a super-powerful crazy Genghis Khan wannabe who wanted to conquer the Multiverse."
Actually, I think Cap as Monarch could've been a good idea if he was a Well-Meaning Extremist who wanted to build a army to fight back against The Monitors who manipullated the multiverse, except Countdown was a horrible screw-up. They wasted a mostly good plot. The only kinda good part was the part when Monarch invaded Earth-51 and then fought Prime, which was pretty awesome.
Even his Power Level was totally wacked off. On Arena, he was the biggest badass ever seen since Darkseid, and he could kill alternate Supermen and all their ancestors down to the first two kryptonians by looking hard at them. Hell, he straight-out killed a massive army of parallel Captain Atoms. In Countdown to Adventure, Forerunner regulary knocked him around like he was some kind of chump, even though he could kill her in so many ways its not funny. In Countdown, he was a chump, then he went toe-to-toe with Superman Prime and had so much power that when his armor was destroyed, a universe was erradicated.
Also, Forerunner was a goddamned annoying Mary Sue. Defeating Donna Troy? That's okay. Defeating the Nazi Justice League all by herself was a ridiculous stretch, the only actually plausible victory was against Nazi-Superman by throwing Kryptonite at him.
Frankly, Cap Atom main problem is the same problem Captain Marvel has: He was hijacked by Superman. They have the same niches, except in three diferent universes: They were all THE HERO in their universes, the most badass of all and the one who inspired the others. And then those three universes turned into one. So we got Superman as THE HERO, I mean, he's Superman. But there's still Captain Marvel and Captain Atom. They're badass. but they aren't THE MAN because there's already a SUPERMAN on that niche. They need a diferent niche.
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