Sean Mckeever Off Teen Titans..

[K-DoG7p7]

http://comicbloc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1429237&postcount=1498

but he is not totaly off.. he is doing the Ravager backup

[RachelEvil]

Hm. I wonder who's replacing him.

[BnL]

Geez, writers are getting driven away from this title at an alarming rate. I suspect it has a lot to do with Didio taking a heavy hand in "editing" the book, which has got to be so frustrating for the writers that they finally decide that it's not worth the trouble.

[Linkara]

I'm curious about why he decided to leave, assuming it was his decision (which he says it was, but we can't be too sure).

[shrike]

I don't find this shocking given the sheer amount of people who hated his take on TT.

Myself, while I don't read it I know people who know Sean _very_ well. I guess he said to them he intentionally did shocking things just to get some exposure for himself and the series. Kind of sad, if he focused more on simply making it a good book I think it would have been better received. The numbers on the book really have taken a hit in the past year, and I'm sure the new blood will be welcome.

[Red Jack]

Hm. I wonder who's replacing him.

Wish it was me and Zeu.

[shrike]

Wish it was me and Zeu.

Just tell Didio you know Brad Meltzer and Judd Winick.

[BnL]

Wish it was me and Zeu.

So do I!

...

[Red Jack]

Just tell Didio you know Brad Meltzer and Judd Winick.

LOL.

I make it a policy to lie as little as possible.

[the4thpip]

Geez, writers are getting driven away from this title at an alarming rate. I suspect it has a lot to do with Didio taking a heavy hand in "editing" the book, which has got to be so frustrating for the writers that they finally decide that it's not worth the trouble.

McKeever had almost a 2-year-run on the book. The only writer who wasn't long for the series was Beechen. And thank god!

[4PointOh]

Who was it that said Dan DiDio was the issue?

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/030919-Titans-McKeever.html

When contacted by Newsarama about his reasons for leaving Teen Titans, McKeever said, “I did have future plans for Teen Titans but I just found myself needing to step away. I guess I'd have to chalk this one up to the vague and oft-used ‘creative differences.’ It happens.

“I do still have a working relationship with Dan and DC, as evidenced by my coming onboard as writer of the Ravager serial. I'm also currently talking to Dan about a couple cool and exciting possibilities for the future.”

[KevinTBrown]

I don't find this shocking given the sheer amount of people who hated his take on TT.

Myself, while I don't read it I know people who know Sean _very_ well. I guess he said to them he intentionally did shocking things just to get some exposure for himself and the series. Kind of sad, if he focused more on simply making it a good book I think it would have been better received. The numbers on the book really have taken a hit in the past year, and I'm sure the new blood will be welcome.

I find myself agreeing with Shrike a lot lately.....

You can count me among those who hated his run. I kept hoping the McKeever who wrote for Marvel would eventually show up, he didn't.

As for him intentionally doing shocking things, it shows. There's no rhyme nor reason to some of the stories other than to shock. Terror Titans as a whole was like that. It's a shame that they used that mini as the vehicle to introduce Static to the DCU.

[Sean McKeever]

Myself, while I don't read it I know people who know Sean _very_ well. I guess he said to them he intentionally did shocking things just to get some exposure for himself and the series.
REALLY.

Tell me, who are these people who know me so well? Because I've never said anything remotely like that to ANYONE.

[K-DoG7p7]

Hm. I wonder who's replacing him.

Dunno.. but I know Geoff Johns one said that he would still be writing it if Kon did get killed.. Kon is coming back..


DADADADAAAAM!!

or maybe its Gail, who knows..

[SUPERECWFAN1]

The final straw and Mr. McKeever , nothing against your work as a whole...its like every issue you either did 3 things :


1.) A team member quits to never return again , except issues later. Usually they quit crying ...and leave.

2.) The shock factor was too insane and stupied. From Miss Martian waking up in a truck stop giving it up to truckers , to Marvin being mauled by an evil devil dog.

3.) With Jamie Reyes title being ended , you could have actually developed Reyes . Instead as one guy in my LCS said "Who is this new Blue Beetle ? And why do we care if he argues with Red Devil a lot ?"



You had a good team possibly. But the work done on the series was just....bad. I dropped it at 64. I saw previews of a 30 yearold Kid Eternity and it made me wonder how bad this title could get.

Just being honest...it wasn't your best I feel. Maybe the Ravager back up will be good. But as a whole Teen Titans just wasn't.

[RachelEvil]

In all fairness, I think the scene with Wendy and Marvin getting mauled by a dog is one that many people were anxiously awaiting for decades...

[Grazzt]

In all fairness, I think the scene with Wendy and Marvin getting mauled by a dog is one that many people were anxiously awaiting for decades...

Of course, given the Wendy and Marvin in the books were completely different characters who only really shared the same name, it does subtract from what little jubilation there would be.

[TomBelandofTSSTG]

I'd go the Marv Wolfman route and come up with stories that balanced the action with the characterization. Focus on the relationships between all the individuals.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

In all fairness, I think the scene with Wendy and Marvin getting mauled by a dog is one that many people were anxiously awaiting for decades...

No we did not need to see Marvin mauled ....and we sure as hell didn't need to see a 30+ yearold Clock King nailing some 18 yearold , barely legal ass in bed. Which was pretty creepy since it comes to mind as well.

It was just "bad shock ideas" tossed into a series. And I won't even get into the lackluster debut of Static . He debuts in a mini-series that really ...would never get much attention.


Just a shame Teen Titans got this bad.

[Lester C.]

Sean's problem was that he wrote the Teen Titans as modern teens with superpowers, rather than a young adult miniature version of the JLA. This would have been okay if the readership was the same age as the people in the book, but the average reader is a hell of a lot older than 17 or 18 and they don't want to read about teens being correctly portrayed as teens.

[MartinRedmond]

Cool, I might at last be able to read this comic again. *Keeps fingers crossed* But truth to tell, all of DC's books are too lewd for my taste right now. It's not really just a by creator thing. It's the entire line, no matter who's writing. There's no escape.

[Village Idiot]

I am one who picked up back issues of Teen Titans after I heard about the good things Sean was doing on the series. I really enjoyed it, and am sorry to hear he is leaving the book.

[Linkara]

Sean, while I will say that your most recent issues have definitely been an improvement, I did drop the book for the first time after the Wonder Dog debacle. It felt mean-spirited, inappropriate, and just tossed in for shock value.

That being said, I really enjoyed Titans #11. that and issue #5 have been the best in the series, if only because they focus on the team's relationship with each other (heck, you even had Donna as a photographer again!).

[DarkCrisis]

I seriously hated that there was no "core team". Peopel comign and going every 2 issues was lame.

Plus the book was getting way way to serious.

Sigh. I just want Young Justice back.

[NickThompson]

Aww, shame. Got me reading Teen Titans, not something I ever thought I'd do.

[escapegoat]

Just tell Didio you know Brad Meltzer and Judd Winick.

LOL.

I make it a policy to lie as little as possible.


Hey! I wouldn't exactly be a lie....you know WHO they are....you just don't know them personally... :tongue:

[bfrank]

Geez, writers are getting driven away from this title at an alarming rate. I suspect it has a lot to do with Didio taking a heavy hand in "editing" the book, which has got to be so frustrating for the writers that they finally decide that it's not worth the trouble.
I suspect it's due to the fact that the writers are writing sucky stories.....Of course it's much easier to blame Dan.....and lazier too......

[NickThompson]

I suspect it's due to the fact that the writers are writing sucky stories.....Of course it's much easier to blame Dan.....and lazier too......
Don't see how that would cause them to leave. If that were the case, they'd be removed.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Sean's problem was that he wrote the Teen Titans as modern teens with superpowers, rather than a young adult miniature version of the JLA. This would have been okay if the readership was the same age as the people in the book, but the average reader is a hell of a lot older than 17 or 18 and they don't want to read about teens being correctly portrayed as teens.

Jim Shooter was the same age of the LSH when he wrote them , Chuck Dixon was older than Tim Drake , but seemed to grasp that not all teens are crying emo disastors. The problem with Sean was he came up with bad "shock" ideas.

Its like Vince Russo in the WWF at one time. The way he presented the WWF product was to teenagers with lewd shocking behavior. It worked since he had Vince McMahon as a strong editor to weed out the bad ideas. Now when Russo went to WCW he didn't have that editor and what we saw was horrible ideas witha few nice ones mixed in.

Here the biggest problem was that DC didn't have a strong editor to tell Sean "No , Marvin being mauled by a dog is a bad idea. And we have to quit having team members leave crying for 2 issues and return. And that Clock King idea is pretty tastless too..."

Had a strong editor took charge maybe McKeever would be writing the book still and most of us telling him in this thread how horrid as shit the series became.

[KevinTBrown]

Sean's problem was that he wrote the Teen Titans as modern teens with superpowers, rather than a young adult miniature version of the JLA. This would have been okay if the readership was the same age as the people in the book, but the average reader is a hell of a lot older than 17 or 18 and they don't want to read about teens being correctly portrayed as teens.

Actually, Lester, I disagree with what you wrote. It was the opposite of what you said.

McKeever did indeed write them like mini-JLAers and not teenagers. Therein lies the problem.

[Lester C.]

Actually, Lester, I disagree with what you wrote. It was the opposite of what you said.

McKeever did indeed write them like mini-JLAers and not teenagers. Therein lies the problem.

They were all emo. At least up until the last trade. Jlaers aren't emo teens are.

[Corrina]

REALLY.

Tell me, who are these people who know me so well? Because I've never said anything remotely like that to ANYONE.

I get the man's point.

In the future, if we're going to attribute words to creators, can we at least get a linky or identify it as 'well, it's rumor' instead of stating as if it's fact.

[Cayman]

I was really excited when McKeever was announced as writer for Teen Titans but he was a real disappointment.

I hope he makes his way back to Marvel; his work there was miles beyond his DC stuff.

[K-DoG7p7]

They were all emo. At least up until the last trade. Jlaers aren't emo teens are.

Stop blaming Sean for making them Emo..
Go back and read Geoffs run.. now THAT emo

[NickThompson]

I thought Beetle and Devil were a lot of fun, especially that oneshot of the two of them.

[Cayman]

I think I saw someone on Twitter say that McKeever might be doing some more The Waiting Place. Super-hearsay, but it would be cool if it's true. It may have just been a lovely dream I had.

[K-DoG7p7]

I think I saw someone on Twitter say that McKeever might be doing some more The Waiting Place. Super-hearsay, but it would be cool if it's true. It may have just been a lovely dream I had.
Look at this
http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video/player.php?videoRef=NA_090310_Sean_McKeever

[Cayman]

Look at this
http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video/player.php?videoRef=NA_090310_Sean_McKeever

I'm in the library right now so I can't hear the clip. Does he mention it?

[K-DoG7p7]

I'm in the library right now so I can't hear the clip. Does he mention it?

yes.. and that he is doing a non DC thing with Mike Norton.. that may or may not be related :P

[Cayman]

yes.. and that he is doing a non DC thing with Mike Norton.. that may or may not be related :P

Cool, that's a good series.

[shrike]

REALLY.

Tell me, who are these people who know me so well? Because I've never said anything remotely like that to ANYONE.

I'm going to just say you know them VERY well. Feel free to ask around... if they want to admit to it, fine, but I'm not going to call out people.

If you want to think I'm talking out of my ass, fine... but I can assure you by my reputation here on these boards I don't just talk shit to talk shit.

[Sean McKeever]

I'm going to just say you know them VERY well. Feel free to ask around... if they want to admit to it, fine, but I'm not going to call out people.

If you want to think I'm talking out of my ass, fine... but I can assure you by my reputation here on these boards I don't just talk shit to talk shit.
Either these "people" PLURAL are full of shit or you are, because anyone who knows me very well knows I never said that stupid shit. If you can't substantiate it, O Anonymous Interneter, then zip it.

I mean, seriously. "Ask around?" You want me to ask all my friends if they're making shit up about me? Get real.

[Crowley]

Either these "people" PLURAL are full of shit or you are, because anyone who knows me very well knows I never said that stupid shit. If you can't substantiate it, O Anonymous Interneter, then zip it.

So Sean, King Friday from the Land of Make Believe isn't a reliable source?

http://www.heinzhistorycenter.org/uploads/products/king_friday.jpg

[shrike]

Either these "people" PLURAL are full of shit or you are, because anyone who knows me very well knows I never said that stupid shit. If you can't substantiate it, O Anonymous Interneter, then zip it.

I mean, seriously. "Ask around?" You want me to ask all my friends if they're making shit up about me? Get real.

Consider it zipped then, Sean. :)

[shrike]

[QUOTE=Crowley;8609251]So Sean, King Friday from the Land of Make Believe isn't a reliable source?



Yes, because I 'make up' so many things around here on the 5 years I've been on this board.

Anyhow, Corrina requested it not be done again, so I will do as she says.

[Lester C.]

REALLY.

Tell me, who are these people who know me so well? Because I've never said anything remotely like that to ANYONE.

There was a rumor a while back that issue where Clock King is shown in bed with Disruptor and Miss Martian almost has sex with the two men in a dirty bathroom was written for promotional purposes. There is a thread about it here and and the DC forums but the search fuction is broken which is just as well as some posters made it personal.

[TCJohnson]

I just want to say that I don't believe Shrike would make up anything. Wether that is true with the people she was talking to or not, I don't know. But Shrike wouldn't.

[Lester C.]

I just want to say that I don't believe Shrike would make up anything. Wether that is true with the people she was talking to or not, I don't know. But Shrike wouldn't.

Thank god you're back man. Because of that and the fact that I like Shrike I'm going to prove her right broken search function be damned.

[shrike]

Thanks, both, but let's just not focus I guess on my comments earlier.

Listing name(s) does nothing more than possibly damage and/or destroy relationships, and that wasn't the intent from my post. It doesn't serve any purpose, and in fact I'm sorry I even brought it up now.

[Crowley]

My apologies then. We all get duped sometimes.

[shrike]

We all get duped sometimes.

... and on the other hand, no one was there for whatever was discussed except those actually involved. So Sean can say he didn't say it all he wants to, but either which way we'll never know unless we were there ourselves.

_Now_ I'm done discussing it.

[Lester C.]

... and on the other hand, no one was there for whatever was discussed except those actually involved. So Sean can say he didn't say it all he wants to, but either which way we'll never know.

_Now_ I'm done discussing it.

We can if I can find the thread I'm looking for. The title had "shaming" in it. I remember because I was going to start a parady thread of shaming various yabsters but thought better of it. I thought Bert started it but that wasn't the case as I checked his entire thread history.

[Crowley]

... and on the other hand, no one was there for whatever was discussed except those actually involved. So Sean can say he didn't say it all he wants to, but either which way we'll never know unless we were there ourselves.

_Now_ I'm done discussing it.

I usually would take the word of the guy who allegedly said the thing. That's just me. Otherwise you're claiming he's a liar with absolutely no proof whatsoever.

[shrike]

We can if I can find the thread I'm looking for. The title had "shaming" in it. I remember because I was going to start a parady thread of shaming various yabsters but thought better of it. I thought Bert started it but that wasn't the case as I checked his entire thread history.

Ehn, again, it's not worth peoples relationships. But thanks.

[shrike]

I usually would take the word of the guy who allegedly said the thing. That's just me. Otherwise you're claiming he's a liar with absolutely no proof whatsoever.

Neither of US was there for whatever transpired. So you can take Sean at his word, or not. You can take what I was told and believe it or disregard it. Your choice. I'm not saying anyone is a liar or that they are indeed telling the truth. There is no way you can find 'proof' in a situation like this unless you were there and had a recording device.

My original post was merely what I was told. Sean refutes that, and it is his right... but no one else was there for any actual conversation(s).

I thought we were done discussing this, why do you insist on bringing it up?

[Sean McKeever]

... and on the other hand, no one was there for whatever was discussed except those actually involved. So Sean can say he didn't say it all he wants to, but either which way we'll never know unless we were there ourselves.

_Now_ I'm done discussing it.
So now you're just straight-up calling me a liar and walking away from it? You are some piece of work.

My original post was merely what I was told. Sean refutes that, and it is his right... but no one else was there for any actual conversation(s).
Actually, NO ONE was there for the actual conversation, because I can tell you I DID NOT SAY THAT.

_I'm_ done discussing it now because it's stupid beyond words that I should have to defend myself over an anonymous person with anonymous sources delivering flat-out lies.

[shrike]

So now you're just straight-up calling me a liar and walking away from it? You are some piece of work.

_I'm_ done discussing it now because it's stupid beyond words that I should have to defend myself over an anonymous person with anonymous sources delivering flat-out lies.

OMG people... Sean, please strap on your reading comprehension helmet and look at my post. At no point am I calling anyone a liar.

edit: why don't we talk about who was everyone's favorite Titan? god.

I liked Speedy.

[Mr.EZ]

I liked Speedy.

I liked Blue Beetle.

[K-DoG7p7]

I like pie..



MMM pie...




Also I miss speedy

[Lester C.]

I like pie..



MMM pie...




Also I miss speedy

Who was a titan for five seconds.:tongue: My favorite titan, who wasn't even in the main book, was Bushido as I really loved him in his annual. I was really pissed when the character got taken out like a punk in Infinite Crisis.

[K-DoG7p7]

Who was a titan for five seconds.:tongue:

more like two whole arcs and a event.. (and one isue og Green arrow and two issues of robin)
could have been three arcs but Gail didn't use her..

[shrike]

Well, as far as Speedy goes, I liked the post heroin addicted Wolfman version of Roy.

[Lester C.]

more like two whole arcs and a event.. (and one isue og Green arrow and two issues of robin)
could have been three arcs but Gail didn't use her..

She was only featured in the Dr. Light arc because of Green Arrow. Once he left she went with him. But at least she made it into the main book Bushido did not. *sighs* Such a waste how they didn't use him after his annual.

[Lester C.]

Well, as far as Speedy goes, I liked the post heroin addicted Wolfman version of Roy.

He's talking about the former blonde teen hooker who been featured in Green Arrow for the past eight years now.

[Paul D. Storrie]

Neither of US was there for whatever transpired. So you can take Sean at his word, or not. You can take what I was told and believe it or disregard it. Your choice. I'm not saying anyone is a liar or that they are indeed telling the truth. There is no way you can find 'proof' in a situation like this unless you were there and had a recording device.

My original post was merely what I was told. Sean refutes that, and it is his right... but no one else was there for any actual conversation(s).

I thought we were done discussing this, why do you insist on bringing it up?

You keep saying you're done discussing this, then you keep on implying, with your 'none of us was there' BS, that Sean (who, hey, is "actually there" for every one of his conversations) isn't telling the truth.

I can pretty much guarantee I've known Sean longer than any source you've got. When he says something, he means it and he stands by it. That beats your anonymous sources every way you cut it.

Here's the bottom line: Your sources either lied to you or misinterpreted something they heard Sean say, maybe at a convention or something. They've likely also blown a few friendly conversations out of proportion and decided they're his friends, rather than casual acquaintances he chats with politely when he runs into them. Happens all the time.

They've then proceeded to tell you about their conversations with a big time comic book writer to score geek points.

Damn, this kind of thing pisses me off. This is exactly the kind of garbage that sours creators on interacting with fans.

PDS

[shrike]

She was only featured in the Dr. Light arc because of Green Arrow. Once he left she went with him. But at least she made it into the main book Bushido did not. *sighs* Such a waste how they didn't use him after his annual.

You know, most of the heroes introduced in those batch of annuals really met some bad endings. Nemesis was one of them, too.

[shrike]

You keep saying you're done discussing this, then you keep on implying, with your 'none of us was there' BS, that Sean (who, hey, is "actually there" for every one of his conversations) isn't telling the truth.

I can pretty much guarantee I've known Sean longer than any source you've got. When he says something, he means it and he stands by it. That beats your anonymous sources every way you cut it.

Here's the bottom line: Your sources either lied to you or misinterpreted something they heard Sean say, maybe at a convention or something. They've likely also blown a few friendly conversations out of proportion and decided they're his friends, rather than casual acquaintances he chats with politely when he runs into them. Happens all the time.

They've then proceeded to tell you about their conversations with a big time comic book writer to score geek points.

Damn, this kind of thing pisses me off. This is exactly the kind of garbage that sours creators on interacting with fans.

PDS

LOL what part of 'I'm done discussing this' do others not understand?

The ONLY REASON I keep having to bring it up is because ppl keep jumping in like 'OMFG WTF OMFG' like you are now. I really want to be done discussing this. End of story.

[Lester C.]

You keep saying you're done discussing this, then you keep on implying, with your 'none of us was there' BS, that Sean (who, hey, is "actually there" for every one of his conversations) isn't telling the truth.

I can pretty much guarantee I've known Sean longer than any source you've got. When he says something, he means it and he stands by it. That beats your anonymous sources every way you cut it.

Here's the bottom line: Your sources either lied to you or misinterpreted something they heard Sean say, maybe at a convention or something. They've likely also blown a few friendly conversations out of proportion and decided they're his friends, rather than casual acquaintances he chats with politely when he runs into them. Happens all the time.

They've then proceeded to tell you about their conversations with a big time comic book writer to score geek points.

Damn, this kind of thing pisses me off. This is exactly the kind of garbage that sours creators on interacting with fans.

PDS

I'm not proud of this, but I've been posting of the forum everyday for close to four years now. While I've certainly had my disagreements with Shirke I've never known her to lie once. That is enough for me to give her the benefit of the doubt and even if it wasn't people were making the same speculation when Teen Titans issue 58 shipped.

[shrike]

Now... who here liked Kole?

[K-DoG7p7]

She was only featured in the Dr. Light arc because of Green Arrow. Once he left she went with him. But at least she made it into the main book Bushido did not. *sighs* Such a waste how they didn't use him after his annual.

I stand corrected.. she was in THREE Teen Titans Arcs

Light Out (#21 - #23)
The Insiders (#24 - #25)
Lost and Found (#30 - #31)
Doom's Day (#32: Infinite Crisis Tie-inn, with the Phantom Zone Arrow)
The New Teen Titans, Part 1: One Year Later (#34: Short Flashback where she lead the team after Beast Boy left)


thats it..


PS: stop calling Roy Speedy

[Mr.EZ]

Now... who here liked Kole?

Not a fan. Costume was too busy for me. Same reason I never liked Jericho.

I've always liked Guardian/Herald/Vox though. It used to be that he seemed to have a lot of potential, and it just drifted away.

[shrike]

I stand corrected.. she was in THREE Teen Titans Arcs

Light Out (#21 - #23)
The Insiders (#24 - #25)
Lost and Found (#30 - #31)
Doom's Day (#32: Infinite Crisis Tie-inn, with the Phantom Zone Arrow)
The New Teen Titans, Part 1: One Year Later (#34: Short Flashback where she lead the team after Beast Boy left)


thats it..


PS: stop calling Roy Speedy

haha awww.

[Corrina]

::pounces:::

Oh, hai TC! How are you? :)

My favorite Titan is Dick Grayson, as written by Wolfman/Perez. And drawn by Perez. That's a must.

[Mr.EZ]

Oh, it's favorite Titans of all time? I thought it was only modern incarnation.

My favorite Titan has always been Bart Allen and it's good to have him back.

[K-DoG7p7]

Speaking of Speedy and Teen Titans..

Why did Geoff feel the need to include a whore joke in #30 ?
And maybe one in #31.. I dont remember

[shrike]

Not a fan. Costume was too busy for me. Same reason I never liked Jericho.

I've always liked Guardian/Herald/Vox though. It used to be that he seemed to have a lot of potential, and it just drifted away.

As much as I ADORE Perez, costume design has never been his strong suit. Most of them are very... flashy.

[shrike]

Oh, god... I forgot Bumblebee. Lots of character to explore, its a shame she is only on the periphery of the DCU.

[Mr.EZ]

As much as I ADORE Perez, costume design has never been his strong suit. Most of them are very... flashy.

No, regular costumes are flashy. Perez's designs were... is there a definition of a word meaning, "being paid for drawing extra lines?"

If so, that's what they are.

[Lester C.]

He's talking about the former blonde teen hooker who been featured in Green Arrow for the past eight years now.

Speaking of Speedy and Teen Titans..

Why did Geoff feel the need to include a whore joke in #30 ?
And maybe one in #31.. I dont remember

Are you talking about the bit with Brother Blood saying that she wasn't pure or defiled I can't remember which? I didn't recall that being an intentional joke unless you count her comeback line which I thought was funny.

[K-DoG7p7]

Are you talking about the bit with Brother Blood saying that she wasn't pure or defiled I can't remember which? I didn't recall that being an intentional joke unless you count her comeback line which I thought was funny.
The demon saying she is unpure or what ever might be what I thought I remembered from #31.. but no..
I'm talking about this

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/7p7/dujfjusdr.jpg

It would have been totally innocent if Bart didn't have that look on his face and Mias reaction was "Sure" or "Why yes young man, it it a long way from Star City to Los Angeles and I would be happy to accompany you "
But no.. he played it off like a "lol WHORE!" joke..

[RachelEvil]

I actually quite like Ravager.

[RachelEvil]

Same reason I never liked Jericho.

I never liked Jericho for the same reason I never liked Chester A. Arthur.

[Mr.EZ]

I never liked Jericho for the same reason I never liked Chester A. Arthur.

The inability to make fun acronyms with their initials?

[Lester C.]

The demon saying she is unpure or what ever might be what I thought I remembered from #31.. but no..
I'm talking about this

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/7p7/dujfjusdr.jpg

It would have been totally innocent if Bart didn't have that look on his face and Mias reaction was "Sure" or "Why yes young man, it it a long way from Star City to Los Angeles and I would be happy to accompany you "
But no.. he played it off like a "lol WHORE!" joke..

I don't see it. Maybe it's because you are only showing that one panel, but I don't see how that's a whore joke.

[shrike]

I get it, but I'm not sure if I would have if it was around a bunch of other panels.

That's the stereotypical 'movie' response when soliciting.

[K-DoG7p7]

I don't see it. Maybe it's because you are only showing that one panel, but I don't see how that's a whore joke.

Pull up to a streetwalker (something Mia was not) and ask them if then need a lift..

but be warned.. it will cost you a few bucks..

[Lester C.]

Pull up to a streetwalker (something Mia was not) and ask them if then need a lift..

but be warned.. it will cost you a few bucks..

Here how I read that panel. Bart was talking at super speed hence the reason why there are no spaces in the words that form his sentence. Mia new to the team couldn't understand what he was saying so she she said what.

[K-DoG7p7]

Here how I read that panel. Bart was talking at super speed hence the reason why there are no spaces in the words that form his sentence. Mia new to the team couldn't understand what he was saying so she she said what.

you need to pick up more hookers..

[Lester C.]

you need to pick up more hookers..

I have no comeback for this.:redface: :frown:

[RachelEvil]

The inability to make fun acronyms with their initials?

http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/centralvermont/buildings/VtHist.03.jpg
https://www.silversnail.com/images/gold/full/action0006414.jpg

Mutton chops.

[the4thpip]

I'd go the Marv Wolfman route and come up with stories that balanced the action with the characterization. Focus on the relationships between all the individuals.

Well, that settles it. The job is yours.

[the4thpip]

Actually, Lester, I disagree with what you wrote. It was the opposite of what you said.


For me, that pretty much works with every single Lester C post. :tongue:

[Crowley]

Neither of US was there for whatever transpired. So you can take Sean at his word, or not. You can take what I was told and believe it or disregard it. Your choice. I'm not saying anyone is a liar or that they are indeed telling the truth. There is no way you can find 'proof' in a situation like this unless you were there and had a recording device.

My original post was merely what I was told. Sean refutes that, and it is his right... but no one else was there for any actual conversation(s).

I thought we were done discussing this, why do you insist on bringing it up?

The one person who was there and using his real name posted in this thread to refute that. Where are the mystery people you claimed made this thing up? Why don't they come and post here?

[shrike]

The one person who was there and using his real name posted in this thread to refute that. Where are the mystery people you claimed made this thing up? Why don't they come and post here?

*sighs*

Because they are too busy building UFOs to go to planet FrooGoo, Crowley. :rolleyes:

Seriously, I'm not discussing it any longer. It is what it is, not worth damaging relationships for.

[Mr.EZ]

http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/centralvermont/buildings/VtHist.03.jpg

Mutton chops.

Hey, you leave Bea Arthur alone! What did she ever do to you?!

[NickThompson]

*sighs*

Because they are too busy building UFOs to go to planet FrooGoo, Crowley. :rolleyes:

Seriously, I'm not discussing it any longer. It is what it is, not worth damaging relationships for.
Not worth damaging relations for....sorry, weren't you the one making accusations based on what anonamous people said?

[Crowley]

Not worth damaging relations for....sorry, weren't you the one making accusations based on what anonamous people said?

yeah that's the part I wonder about... who's relationship are we worried about damaging exactly?

When it was convenient the accusations go flying, now when cornered and asked to back up her claims... shrike is retreating and doing the whole "I'm done talking about thing"

This is a repeated behavior. If you're going to ante up... better be ready to show your cards.

[shrike]

Holy crap... the thread that will never die.

OK, let's all go over this again.I will not state name(s) of those involved because obviously Sean has a big beef with it. I am not going to cause any frictions in relationships with others due to something that was said THAT WAS RELAYED TO ME AND PROBABLY NOT EVEN MEANT IN A WAY TO HURT HIM. That's it, no 'secret agenda'. Why should I start a war between him and others? That's bullshit.

God, Crowley, get your head out of your ass already and drop it.

EDIT: What is this 'repeated behavior' business? When have I _ever_made a claim like this? Oh wait, that's right... never.

ONE FINAL EDIT: lol... seriously, Crowley, Sean, whomever... if it makes you feel that much better to sleep at night, I fully encourage you to think I'm pulling all of this out of my ass. Please. I'm just kind of over it at this point.

[Night Swordsman]

::pounces:::

Oh, hai TC! How are you? :)

My favorite Titan is Dick Grayson, as written by Wolfman/Perez. And drawn by Perez. That's a must.

You have good tastes! =) My favorite was Changeling,same everything else. Sigh. Comic books were COMIC BOOKS back then. :frown:

[TomStillwell]

How can there be parties involved in a conversation that didn't take place?

[shrike]

How can there be parties involved in a conversation that didn't take place?

LOL


......

[SUPERECWFAN1]

How can there be parties involved in a conversation that didn't take place?

It took place ....in the WORLD OF MY MIND !


Dan Didio came to me in a dream , twirling his porno mustache , and he told me all about Sean McKeever , loving the beaver . I nodded and said ...you Dan are a genuis ...can I have a job at DC fetching you water ? To which he replied "No , you aren't meant to work at DC evvvveer."

I awoke and saw Burt Reynolds on my TV . His mustache in full glory !

[shrike]

I awoke and saw Burt Reynolds on my TV . His mustache in full glory !

Pre or post excessive plastic surgery?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Pre or post excessive plastic surgery?

It was during this era...

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk28/bunnygirl131313/bandit.jpg

[shrike]

It was during this era...

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk28/bunnygirl131313/bandit.jpg

Oh that's OK then.

[Red Jack]

You have good tastes! =) My favorite was Changeling,same everything else. Sigh. Comic books were COMIC BOOKS back then. :frown:

And will be again. HONOR BRIGADE is coming!

(well. technically it's here already but not in its future exquisite form.)

[ScottyQuick]

Sean's problem was that he wrote the Teen Titans as modern teens with superpowers, rather than a young adult miniature version of the JLA. This would have been okay if the readership was the same age as the people in the book, but the average reader is a hell of a lot older than 17 or 18 and they don't want to read about teens being correctly portrayed as teens.

Haha what? I mean, yeah, the majority of readers are adults, but my e-friends who're comic geeks and teens like myself have never been interested in Teen Titans, because they don't act like teenagers.

Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane: Correct portrayal of good teenagers. Conflicted and unsure and paranoid and insecure, but have the heart in the right place! Care about their friends! Own up to their mistakes!

Teen Titans: Not so much! Yes, that's true for Jaime, KD and M'Gann, who had very little screen time in comparison to the rest of the gang, but not so much for Tim and Cassie. Cassie is kind of being cool again, and that interview before where McKeever was talking about how he no longer wanted her to be defined by Zeus/Diana/Connor/Tim had me incredibly excited, but really, for every issue before the Ares arc, she was absolutely insufferable. Robin wasn't really the Tim Drake I loved, he was a lot more grimdaark and angsty then I like him, and he just seemed to sit around bitching.

All of this is just my opinion, of course.

[Corrina]

It was during this era...

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk28/bunnygirl131313/bandit.jpg

It strikes me that this guy would be the only one to pull off an American Gene Hunt.

Well, this era that guy, anyway.

Okay, back off obscure British shows, back onto Titans, now that everyone knows my geekery knows no bounds.

[Crowley]

Holy crap... the thread that will never die.

OK, let's all go over this again.I will not state name(s) of those involved because obviously Sean has a big beef with it. I am not going to cause any frictions in relationships with others due to something that was said THAT WAS RELAYED TO ME AND PROBABLY NOT EVEN MEANT IN A WAY TO HURT HIM. That's it, no 'secret agenda'. Why should I start a war between him and others? That's bullshit.

God, Crowley, get your head out of your ass already and drop it.

EDIT: What is this 'repeated behavior' business? When have I _ever_made a claim like this? Oh wait, that's right... never.

ONE FINAL EDIT: lol... seriously, Crowley, Sean, whomever... if it makes you feel that much better to sleep at night, I fully encourage you to think I'm pulling all of this out of my ass. Please. I'm just kind of over it at this point.

Yes, Clearly I'm the one with my head up my ass...

[shrike]

Yes, Clearly I'm the one with my head up my ass...

You won't find many arguing with that statement.

[Corrina]

Children, children, enough. :)