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worstblogever
03-18-2009, 02:36 PM
X-Factor (vol. 3) #41


This issue, PAD makes it a point on the recap page to thank us for keeping Spoilers on his title to a minimum. Sales, it goes on to say, have caused #39 to sell out at the distributor level, and he hopes everyone can continue to join hands, sing songs, and prevent plot reveals off of the internet to help inflate his sales numbers.

A method to his madness, or a big "I told you so!"... you be judge.

The jaw-dropping reveals at the end of the past two issues have lost a bit of oomph. Madrox's big baby goof, and then his reunion with a certain Ms. Miller who came bag with full-on lady parts were worth some buzz. And this issue, he's headed into the future with her to... what exactly? More on that in a minute.

What's more interesting, to me, is that there's a furthering conspiracy going on in the present. And some shocking details regarding the rest of X-Factor Investigations. First off, an a mystery assassin turns up and tries to kill the priest dupe, before failing and turning the gun on himself. Where's this plot thread going? Not to mention, a client shows up to see X-Factor Jamie left behind who's convinced someone's out to get her, and is killing or kidnapping depowered mutants. Ah, shadowy foes. Still a noir book, after all.

And X-Factor sans Madrox? Oddly, they're working better as a team than they have... well... maybe since issue #12, or just EVER. Without Jamie to call the shots, they're getting along pretty well. And I mean all of 'em, including Darwin and Longshot. Darwin's not so over-the-top ridiculous in this issue, and PAD does have some fun explaining how his powers work, when they do. It's creative, but Darwin's still a character that is worth a damn, apparently. And sure, there's Longshot in this issue, but he's not nearly so asinine and difficult as a team member. Hell, even Strong Guy gets to be, dare I say it... INTELLIGENT in this issue. They take on a tech weapons shipment on behalf of Val Cooper. Guess Siryn wasn't too cheesed off at her, but whatever. The art, and writing are a welcome blend of bonding that this team needs. After all the tragedy, it's good to see them heal.

So, back to the future with Layla and Jamie (and not Michael J. Fox)? The cover of the issue isn't too deceptive, they have to face down an advanced Sentinel, just the two of them. And deal with the bizarre budding attraction between Madrox and barely-legal Layla. And just when things get darkest, who turns up in the cliffhanger? I'll give you a hint... they're of the Summers bloodline. Huh? That's like half the Marvel U? Oh. Well, she and Layla have already been fast friends. That might help.

All and all, Val De Landro's art captures a lot of the emotion of this title as it dances through the past, future, and several threads that, in some parlor scene down the line, will all connect. PAD pleas aside, the characterization all around is good, including when a terse Siryn and Rictor change the subject when the topic of her pregnancy comes up. If there's anything that's off-putting, it's the sudden instant attraction Jamie has for the "all growed up" Layla. Ease us into it, please. It's a little obvious where it's going. Let's just hope Rahne doesn't get an invite to the wedding, or something. But, all and all, a solid read today.

8.5/10

Novaya Havoc
03-18-2009, 02:38 PM
This issue, PAD makes it a point on the recap page to thank us for keeping Spoilers on his title to a minimum. Sales, it goes on to say, have caused #39 to sell out at the distributor level, and he hopes everyone can continue to join hands, sing songs, and prevent plot reveals off of the internet to help inflate his sales numbers.


You're kidding.

I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN MAH COMICS BREAK THE 4TH WALL.

Justin K.
03-18-2009, 02:45 PM
Thanks WBE, so that means we see members outside of Madrox and Layla?

worstblogever
03-18-2009, 02:45 PM
You're kidding.

I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN MAH COMICS BREAK THE 4TH WALL.

No foolin'. Perhaps, each month from now on, we'll be reminded the internet is the devil at the start of each issue of X-Factor, and get a sales update.

Does that... seem a bit pretentious? I'm going on a limb and saying yes. It's a bit of a self-high-five. And possibly, a rigid middle finger to those that disagree with the "pleas", or "precautions".

I dunno. I'd rather worry about the issue, than the disclaimer, but I'm just reportin' the facts.

worstblogever
03-18-2009, 02:46 PM
Thanks WBE, so that means we see members outside of Madrox and Layla?

M and Siryn are in the issue for you to squeal over, if that's what you're asking.

Justin K.
03-18-2009, 02:52 PM
M and Siryn are in the issue for you to squeal over, if that's what you're asking.

any Rictor?

worstblogever
03-18-2009, 02:54 PM
any Rictor?

See, this is why I miss the OLD way of writing reviews. It'd save an extended line of questioning.


To answer your question... Yes, as vaguely stated in the original post... ALL of the other team members are shown.

Justin K.
03-18-2009, 03:00 PM
See, this is why I miss the OLD way of writing reviews. It'd save an extended line of questioning.


To answer your question... Yes, as vaguely stated in the original post... ALL of the other team members are shown.

Glad to see a reunion, so reminiscent of past times
All we need is Rahne, but then again, there's that prophecy...
But I'm sure Darwin and Longshot make up for her being gone :tongue:

The Black Guardian
03-18-2009, 03:01 PM
You're kidding.

I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN MAH COMICS BREAK THE 4TH WALL.
The very purpose of a "recap page," no?

protogarrett
03-18-2009, 03:13 PM
See, this is why I miss the OLD way of writing reviews. It'd save an extended line of questioning.


To answer your question... Yes, as vaguely stated in the original post... ALL of the other team members are shown.

I miss spoilers. Overseas mailing of comics blows. Specially when half the time the post office has been blown to hell. Ah, my Israli post office - like the X-Mansion. Destroyed at least once a year.

Samuraixsithlord
03-18-2009, 03:18 PM
so i take it Ruby is is it?

do we get to see some sort of future team of X-men? Like Alternate reality versions of GENext?

worstblogever
03-18-2009, 03:23 PM
so i take it Ruby is is it?

do we get to see some sort of future team of X-men? Like Alternate reality versions of GENext?

If GeNext turned up, I doubt my review would've come back as high as 8.5.

timbox
03-18-2009, 03:29 PM
On the first page, did Layla show her boobs to Madrox to prove she was a grown woman?

worstblogever
03-18-2009, 04:19 PM
On the first page, did Layla show her boobs to Madrox to prove she was a grown woman?

No, but on page 15, Jamie does manage to get two full handfulls of Layla sweater meat.

Really.

Vanish
03-18-2009, 04:29 PM
I look forward to seeing the rest of X-Factor bond.

I'm really growing less and less interested in Madrox, even when Sentinels and Layla are involved. Hopefully upon actually reading this my opinion will start to u-turn.

timbox
03-18-2009, 04:32 PM
No, but on page 15, Jamie does manage to get two full handfulls of Layla sweater meat.

Really.

It didn't show it, I think she did. What else could she have done after saying, "Watch:" to get the reaction, "Oh my god."

CMBMOOL
03-18-2009, 04:32 PM
Wow, when you take out the nutcase like Madrox, the rest of the X-factor team funtions normally.


Still, I can't wait to see just where does Madrox vision quest takes him now. :redface:

preppistonpav
03-18-2009, 04:41 PM
It didn't show it, I think she did. What else could she have done after saying, "Watch:" to get the reaction, "Oh my god."

I didn't get that at first either, and I did think that Layla pulled a girls gone wild. But what actually happened is that she said "Oh my God" at the exact same time that Jamie said it. Y'know, 'cause she knew he was going to say that.

Gotta say I'm really stoked about where the comic seems to be going. We've got Layla back (more or less) and it looks like some big mysteries are just starting to brew.

PAD, X-Factor is again the #1 comic I can't wait to read each month.

-Pav, who thinks the lady on the last page wasn't QUITE as hot as before, but is sure she'll be back up to snuff next time...

Novaya Havoc
03-18-2009, 04:44 PM
The very purpose of a "recap page," no?

No. Not to say "THANKS FOR NOT SPOILING!!! OMG X-FACTOR IS SELLING SO WELL!!! <3 <3 <3"

That's gay.

worstblogever
03-18-2009, 04:46 PM
No. Not to say "THANKS FOR NOT SPOILING!!! OMG X-FACTOR IS SELLING SO WELL!!! <3 <3 <3"

That's gay.

Oh, Longshot randomly quotes an old saying of Dazzler's, that she supposedly says, "Candy is dandy."

Not exactly the Gettysburg address, but I figured you'd want to know if her ditched ex with the mullet is at least still thinking about her.

And actually, Longshot's mullet looks to have been trimmed somewhat into a bob haircut, for those keeping score on his follical growth at home. Thank you, Valentine De Landro for this little cosmetic, but long overdue change.

JValentine
03-18-2009, 04:50 PM
Another great issue.
I would have scored it higher than 8.5/10, probably between 9 and 9.5.

timbox
03-18-2009, 04:52 PM
Longshot was clearly aroused when he mentioned "Alison."

Novaya Havoc
03-18-2009, 04:54 PM
Oh, Longshot randomly quotes an old saying of Dazzler's, that she supposedly says, "Candy is dandy."

Not exactly the Gettysburg address, but I figured you'd want to know if her ditched ex with the mullet is at least still thinking about her.

NO. LONGSHOT IS NEVER TO SPEAK OF DAZZLER AGAIN. HERESY.

And Dazzler would never say anything that heretical. Her trademark phrase is "GO FOR IT!!!!"

PAD. You are ON NOTICE.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/havoc1/OnNotice.jpg

worstblogever
03-18-2009, 04:57 PM
NO. LONGSHOT IS NEVER TO SPEAK OF DAZZLER AGAIN. HERESY.

And Dazzler would never say anything that heretical. Her trademark phrase is "GO FOR IT!!!!"

I blame Mojo's brainwashing.

Seres
03-18-2009, 05:08 PM
NO. LONGSHOT IS NEVER TO SPEAK OF DAZZLER AGAIN. HERESY.

And Dazzler would never say anything that heretical. Her trademark phrase is "GO FOR IT!!!!"

PAD. You are ON NOTICE.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/havoc1/OnNotice.jpg

Worse than Longshot? I'm delighted!

jarrod
03-18-2009, 05:10 PM
I blame Mojo's brainwashing.
I blame meth... wait, we're talking about Dazzler, right?

Novaya Havoc
03-18-2009, 05:17 PM
I blame meth... wait, we're talking about Dazzler, right?

Stop flirting with me.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/068987474X.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

mr.brighteyes
03-18-2009, 05:37 PM
Thanks for the review. I don't know when I can get it. My car broke down about two blocks away from the place and when I walked there to pay for them and walk back to my broken down car I had left my money in my car and I wasn't about to make the walk again with my pants practically falling around my ankles and the rain pouring. I have the worst luck.

Justin K.
03-18-2009, 05:42 PM
Thanks for the review. I don't know when I can get it. My car broke down about two blocks away from the place and when I walked there to pay for them and walk back to my broken down car I had left my money in my car and I wasn't about to make the walk again with my pants practically falling around my ankles and the rain pouring. I have the worst luck.

I'm too sick to go to my lcs

Michael P
03-18-2009, 06:23 PM
any Rictor?

A little bit. He needs a shave.

This one didn't have quite the "wow" factor of the last two, but it's still got the deft characterization, tight plotting, and slick style that I've come to expect. And I think Val Delandro is the artist this book's been waiting for since day one.

DarkCrisis
03-18-2009, 06:31 PM
I loved it. Great book. Can't wait to hear more about Layla.

Deathspider1977
03-18-2009, 07:54 PM
I'm just happy Longshot is back, I wish PAD would flesh him out a little more and less of a joke.

Justin K.
03-18-2009, 08:05 PM
A little bit. He needs a shave.

This one didn't have quite the "wow" factor of the last two, but it's still got the deft characterization, tight plotting, and slick style that I've come to expect. And I think Val Delandro is the artist this book's been waiting for since day one.

I'm happy with the art, it just feels right.

Greg Anderson
03-18-2009, 10:03 PM
Loved the Longshot scene, mostly the e-mail spam. Nice little chuckle. I hope to see more Rictor and LS together, they may make a funny duo.

Justin K.
03-18-2009, 10:09 PM
Loved the Longshot scene, mostly the e-mail spam. Nice little chuckle. I hope to see more Rictor and LS together, they may make a funny duo.

Even better, Shattybuns and Rictor :wink:

Greg Anderson
03-18-2009, 10:15 PM
You know, I didn't even think of the whole Rictor and Shatterstar thing?

Guido and Darwin are pretty damn funny too.

Alex A Sanchez
03-19-2009, 12:07 AM
The jaw-dropping reveals at the end of the past two issues have lost a bit of oomph.

Well he keeps telling us that there is a surprise, which ruins part of the surprise. =/
At least if there is something shocking in #42 it will be genuinely shocking.

And as far as this issue's big surprise- I wasn't too surprised after Lalya brought Jamie into the future. My first thoughts were, "YES!!! He's going to run into Ruby eventually". And he did.

And we finally know why there will be no mini-series about the Summer's Rebellion: it's going to take place in X-Factor!!!


And X-Factor sans Madrox? Oddly, they're working better as a team than they have... well... maybe since issue #12, or just EVER. Without Jamie to call the shots, they're getting along pretty well.

That's whole endearing part of the book: probably every member on the team (except for maybe Rictor) could lead better than Jamie. It's like the humor him as team leader because either they pitty him, or because X-Factor was his idea. Or maybe because he's the richest of any of them (does Guido still have money?).

Hell, even Strong Guy gets to be, dare I say it... INTELLIGENT in this issue.

I sorely miss the days when Guido was written as intelligent. I mean, the guy's never had any dignity, but that doesn't mean he's not smart.

Actually, wise is a better word to describe him. He's wise. He just had a lot of street knowledge and stuff, but is not the most observant person so he misses a lot of stuff most people find obvious.

ANewHope
03-19-2009, 01:41 AM
Another solid issue with great pacing. Although there was no shocking reveal at the end, the entire story was well executed.

I want to say that there were 3 different subplots going on along with Jamie and Layla being the main story.

Had Guido, Darwin, Monet taking out the weapons depot ship.

Priest Madrox wakes up only to be shot at by a mysterious shooter.

Longshot, Rictor and Siryn entertain a paranoid customer claiming shes being followed.

That's a well done story with only 22 pages. I might not be buying this in double anymore, but there is no way that I'm missing X-Factor month in and month out. I might not do that next month, but I did buy this in double ^_^

The Lucky One
03-19-2009, 06:33 AM
Loved the Longshot scene, mostly the e-mail spam. Nice little chuckle. I hope to see more Rictor and LS together, they may make a funny duo.

Agreed. Which, frankly, who would have thought? The email spam joke was funny, although I'm with whoever said that hopefully he'll get a bit more story-centric focus in issues to come. Which, given PAD's track record, is likely.

You know, it was a good issue, solid characterization and some funny lines, but I guess I was just expecting some big reveal. Didn't PAD mention at some point that the surprise in issue 41 would completely blow us away or something, even more so than the two preceding issues? Maybe I'm just slightly disappointed because it doesn't seem like my theory about what the surprise would be (based on the events of issue 39) is actually what's going on; which is fine, but I thought there'd be more of a shock ending than just Ruby showing up.

Even so, fine issue, still the best X-book I'm reading by far. We'll see if New Mutants manages to take that crown away.

-D

FemGeek
03-19-2009, 10:39 AM
Great issue, I enjoyed it way more than the previous. It was nice to see the old team dynamic back, even if it was without Madrox. Guido and co. taking out the ship his way was great, and I am digging the art.
Layla's stripey socks! Still the same Layla I hopes.

Greg Anderson
03-19-2009, 10:41 AM
You know, something seemed strangely right when Layla held Jamie from behind. :confused:

DarkCrisis
03-19-2009, 10:44 AM
You know, something seemed strangely right when Layla held Jamie from behind. :confused:

Totally. Thoguh it would be really weird for Jamie since shes was just a teenager last time he saw her.

Big Red Spider
03-19-2009, 10:49 AM
Another great issue of X-Factor: Why does Longshot have to wear that outfit all the time: No one else on the team wears an outfit from: the eighty's..

Mundungus
03-19-2009, 11:12 AM
I can't wait to see the conversation between Jamie and Future-Cyclops. There will be a conversation, surely.

I love the fact that X-Factor is not really about being a noir book. It's not really the X-Men Detectives. Jamie started an investigation service because he thought it was a cool idea--it was all part of his desires as a character. This is a character book, pure and simple. It deals with the over-arching themes and plots of the X-Universe, but focuses solely on the experiences of the people present.

I think Layla joined the Jamie dupe in the future because she wanted to be older. They said outloud (if I remember correclty) that it was a one-way trip. She heard that. She knew that she'd be trapped there indefinitely. If she could predict a future between Jamie and her she had to know that Jamie wasn't that much older than her older self in that possible future. She could age in the future and return to the present. Her actions had consequences, of course but I believe it was based on her desire for Jamie. Maybe?

Good stuff.

I do miss the Rictor angst. I hope after this current slew of storylines PAD goes back to work with the other characters again like Monet and Rictor and flesh out Darwin and Longshot (who should get a makeover by now). Some of the Pablo Raimondi issues captured the heart of these characters. He was especially good with Rictor.

Darth Logan
03-19-2009, 11:18 AM
I think Layla joined the Jamie dupe in the future because she wanted to be older. They said outloud (if I remember correclty) that it was a one-way trip. She heard that. She knew that she'd be trapped there indefinitely. If she could predict a future between Jamie and her she had to know that Jamie wasn't that much older than her older self in that possible future. She could age in the future and return to the present. Her actions had consequences, of course but I believe it was based on her desire for Jamie. Maybe?

I don't doubt that Layla knew it was a one way trip. It's what she does right? But I'm 99% sure that Forge didn't mention it until after both dupes and Layla were gone. It was when Jaime Prime started yelling at him to bring Layla back that it was revealed to be a one way trip.

KrullWall
03-19-2009, 11:25 AM
This is a Great book. Hands down the 2nd best (after Xforce). I kinda hope when layla and madrox finally go back they bring ruby. I like her look. Plus i think scott and emma would go crap crazy to find out that they had sex other than just for fun.

Alex A Sanchez
03-19-2009, 12:30 PM
Another solid issue with great pacing. Although there was no shocking reveal at the end,

I'm pretty sure the return of Ruby was supposed to be the shocking ending that got people ablaze in discussion.

While I am super excited that she's returned, it doesn't compare to the shock of seeing Layla drawn as a full grown woman, or the fate of Madrox's baby. Those were long time sub-plots paying off, as opposed to an awesome character who appeared once before.

Peter David
03-19-2009, 12:52 PM
I do miss the Rictor angst. I hope after this current slew of storylines PAD goes back to work with the other characters again like Monet and Rictor and flesh out Darwin and Longshot (who should get a makeover by now). Some of the Pablo Raimondi issues will captured the heart of these characters. He was especially good with Rictor.

There will be plenty of Rictor angst in upcoming issues. Indeed, plenty of all the characters who haven't been getting as much face time. We're talking Rictor and Guido on a road trip, we're talking an upcoming issue entitled, "Dirty, Sexy Monet." If nothing else, it'll be fun watching all those who claimed, "This is just a book about Madrox" have to eat their words.

PAD

CmX
03-19-2009, 12:53 PM
I hope PAD keeps Ruby around! I didn't think we'd ever see her again especially because of what PAD said in an interview about her. Please keep her in the book!

Greg Anderson
03-19-2009, 01:00 PM
There will be plenty of Rictor angst in upcoming issues. Indeed, plenty of all the characters who haven't been getting as much face time. We're talking Rictor and Guido on a road trip, we're talking an upcoming issue entitled, "Dirty, Sexy Monet." If nothing else, it'll be fun watching all those who claimed, "This is just a book about Madrox" have to eat their words.

PAD

Haha! Awesome, just keep on bringing on the awesomeness. :cool:

Peter David
03-19-2009, 04:18 PM
I hope PAD keeps Ruby around! I didn't think we'd ever see her again especially because of what PAD said in an interview about her. Please keep her in the book!

Of course I said that. I'm sitting there telling people, "Maybe we'll do a limited series at some point set in the future" knowing the entire time what we've got coming up.

You have to realize I'm a paid professional liar. People give me money to make stuff up. You can't always believe me.

PAD

Justin K.
03-19-2009, 04:20 PM
There will be plenty of Rictor angst in upcoming issues. Indeed, plenty of all the characters who haven't been getting as much face time. We're talking Rictor and Guido on a road trip, we're talking an upcoming issue entitled, "Dirty, Sexy Monet." If nothing else, it'll be fun watching all those who claimed, "This is just a book about Madrox" have to eat their words.

PAD

*eats those words*

Sounds awesome!

FemGeek
03-19-2009, 04:22 PM
There will be plenty of Rictor angst in upcoming issues. Indeed, plenty of all the characters who haven't been getting as much face time. We're talking Rictor and Guido on a road trip, we're talking an upcoming issue entitled, "Dirty, Sexy Monet." If nothing else, it'll be fun watching all those who claimed, "This is just a book about Madrox" have to eat their words.

PAD

Oh yay, that sounds so fun :) Road trips are always awesome. Very happy with ALL of X Factor, don't think theres been a single moment where I've been dissapointed.

Don't pee in the (Dead)pool
03-19-2009, 06:00 PM
Oh yay, that sounds so fun :) Road trips are always awesome. Very happy with ALL of X Factor, don't think theres been a single moment where I've been dissapointed.

Hear, hear! X-Factor is always engaging, surprising and always keeps me guessing.

Trississ
03-19-2009, 07:39 PM
Man it's so good to have Layla back. I've been feeling like something is missing from my life for the better part of a year.
X-Force and X-Factor both rocked this month. Thank goodness because UXM and YXM were both pretty lame.

Keep up the awesome work Mr David.

Falconen
03-19-2009, 07:53 PM
There will be plenty of Rictor angst in upcoming issues. Indeed, plenty of all the characters who haven't been getting as much face time. We're talking Rictor and Guido on a road trip, we're talking an upcoming issue entitled, "Dirty, Sexy Monet." If nothing else, it'll be fun watching all those who claimed, "This is just a book about Madrox" have to eat their words.

PAD

All these upcoming ideas sound a lot of fun. I especially like the "Dirty, Sexy Monet" one. It is totally against her grain and I can't wait to see how that plays out.
The Guido/ Rictor road trip sounds like a hoot also. I imagine there will be at least one Waffle House involved.

CmX
03-19-2009, 08:07 PM
Of course I said that. I'm sitting there telling people, "Maybe we'll do a limited series at some point set in the future" knowing the entire time what we've got coming up.

You have to realize I'm a paid professional liar. People give me money to make stuff up. You can't always believe me.

PAD

Heh okay another thing I also just realized is that you're an asshole.

DeniseXfrost
03-19-2009, 08:59 PM
Yes! Ruby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Will Emma ever going to meet her?


Anyway, this issue is not as good as the last 2 but Ruby appearance is great!

Kid Icarus
03-19-2009, 09:01 PM
*eats those words*

Sounds awesome!

Did you know about that when it was your title?
or has your title been stolen!?!?

Justin K.
03-19-2009, 09:04 PM
Yes! Ruby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will Emma ever going to meet her?

Anyway, this issue is not as good as the last 2 but Ruby appearance is great!

We do see Cyclops in May, who knows...
http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=11789

Did you know about that when it was your title?
or has your title been stolen!?!?

Not sure what that's implying, but what can I say, not really a Madrox fan

Kid Icarus
03-19-2009, 09:12 PM
We do see Cyclops in May, who knows...
http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=11789



Not sure what that's implying, but what can I say, not really a Madrox fan

That when you had a monet avatar it said Dirty, Sexy Monet.
did you know about it already?

Justin K.
03-19-2009, 09:16 PM
That when you had a monet avatar it said Dirty, Sexy Monet.
did you know about it already?

I knew about the Monet story
But not about the Rictor and Guido part
Don't really hear much about those 2

Somebody
03-19-2009, 09:30 PM
You have to realize I'm a paid professional liar.
Isn't "paid professional" tautologous? If you don't get paid, you're an amateur (not to be confused with a dilettante, as often happens).

Omega Alpha
03-19-2009, 09:33 PM
This book continues to be outstanding. Great characterization, a good use of the supporting cast (Guido finally doing stuff! And being cool!), and Ruby being back.

Peter David
03-19-2009, 09:37 PM
Heh okay another thing I also just realized is that you're an asshole.

Maybe. But at least I'm a professional asshole.

PAD

Peter David
03-19-2009, 09:38 PM
Man it's so good to have Layla back. I've been feeling like something is missing from my life for the better part of a year.
X-Force and X-Factor both rocked this month. Thank goodness because UXM and YXM were both pretty lame.

Keep up the awesome work Mr David.

I'll do my best.

PAD

Peter David
03-19-2009, 09:41 PM
Isn't "paid professional" tautologous? If you don't get paid, you're an amateur (not to be confused with a dilettante, as often happens).

I suppose, but I like the alliteration.

PAD

Hi-Fi
03-19-2009, 09:42 PM
PAD, stop teasing around the subject and adress Rictor being bisexual, please?

jester1436
03-19-2009, 09:48 PM
Maybe. But at least I'm a professional asshole.

PAD

Do they make business cards for this?

DeniseXfrost
03-19-2009, 11:04 PM
We do see Cyclops in May, who knows...
http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=11789



Not sure what that's implying, but what can I say, not really a Madrox fan

Does this has anything to do with the messiah war? hmmm...

Justin K.
03-19-2009, 11:12 PM
Does this has anything to do with the messiah war? hmmm...

It's not a tie-in to Messiah War, but Layla and Madrox's role should be interesting
It would be interesting to see what he wants with them in the first place

DeniseXfrost
03-19-2009, 11:15 PM
I'm just surprised and dissapointed that Pad never uses Emma once not even when the x-factor confronted the x-men.

Would be cool to see Monet interacting with her former teacher.

Justin K.
03-19-2009, 11:22 PM
I'm just surprised and dissapointed that Pad never uses Emma once not even when the x-factor confronted the x-men.

Would be cool to see Monet interacting with her former teacher.

The X-men did get in a fight with the Astonishing team during Civil War
No Emma, but then again, she could have been having that talk with Stark at the time
They were together in a panel in Messiah Complex, but M was more of a background character in that story.
The whole Messiah Baby thng being more important then a mini Gen X reunion
though Emma and M talking again could be interesting. Their last Gen X interactions weren't too... pleasant.

DeniseXfrost
03-19-2009, 11:24 PM
I was referring to when the x-factor confronted the x-men why the hid the truth behind HOM...

Their last Gen X interactions weren't too... pleasant.
Emma was very sloppy.

Justin K.
03-19-2009, 11:32 PM
I was referring to when the x-factor confronted the x-men why the hid the truth behind HOM...

That's what I meant
She was probably having that talk with Stark at the time

Emma was very sloppy.

We should ask Scott before jumping to any conclusions :wink:

DeniseXfrost
03-19-2009, 11:59 PM
We should ask Scott before jumping to any conclusions :wink:
Oooh...I didn't have that in mind when I wrote that LOL

Mundungus
03-20-2009, 12:08 AM
I think the Cyclops in the solicitation for #43 is referring to Future-Cyclops. I'm assuming that Madrox will still be in the future for the remainder of this arc so it's unlikely that it's Present-Cyclops.

Like I said. I can't wait to see their interaction.

Victorious
03-20-2009, 12:43 AM
Wow, i love this tittle! Congrats PAD!

Love where this is going, love to see this future timeline (they are the new x-book thing it seems) and the interactions between Cyclops, Ruby, Jamie, Layla and a possible Wolfsbane(?). Would like to see some future versions of the team too. And I do hope that if they came back to the present they bring Ruby with them, a future version daughter of Scott and Emma on the team would rock! Her phrase should totally be: “I know stuff too”.

Like to see Terry in her right mind (kind of) after what happen to her. I guess that by the time Jamie came back she would have forgive him, but he’ll return as Layla’s husband!

Terry is have an awesome potencial to be the team leader now that Jamie would be gone for a while.And Guido and Darwin are a fun duo.

I agree on Longshot, he need to change that 80’s look. He dated the Dazzler for god’s sake! Maybe Monet will take him shopping just to flirt with him.

So Guido, Monet and Darwin are working for Val now, while Terry, Longshot and Rictor are on the agency?

And who the hell is the man with the gun? Maybe send by the ones who kill Candy?

LOL at Sponge-darwin and the phrases “how pathetic is my life that that’s the nicest thing a girl’s said to me in a month?” and “did my internal dialogue did that?”. Only PAD can write things like that.

Can’t wait for the Monet story (LOL at “Dirty, Sexy Monet”) and the brokeback… I’m mean roadtrip featuring Guido and Rictor! Also, can wait for the cat fight between Rictor and Monet for Longshot love.

And I love how PAD writes Rictor’s sexuality, his relationship with Rahne and his bisexuality. No need for him to came out (although everyone knows it, except maybe Rahne, she is too innocent in that way I guess, but she’s gone now), until it’s time for that to be developed.

Lester C.
03-20-2009, 01:42 AM
X-Factor (vol. 3) #41


This issue, PAD makes it a point on the recap page to thank us for keeping Spoilers on his title to a minimum. Sales, it goes on to say, have caused #39 to sell out at the distributor level, and he hopes everyone can continue to join hands, sing songs, and prevent plot reveals off of the internet to help inflate his sales numbers.

A method to his madness, or a big "I told you so!"... you be judge.

The jaw-dropping reveals at the end of the past two issues have lost a bit of oomph. Madrox's big baby goof, and then his reunion with a certain Ms. Miller who came bag with full-on lady parts were worth some buzz. And this issue, he's headed into the future with her to... what exactly? More on that in a minute.

What's more interesting, to me, is that there's a furthering conspiracy going on in the present. And some shocking details regarding the rest of X-Factor Investigations. First off, an a mystery assassin turns up and tries to kill the priest dupe, before failing and turning the gun on himself. Where's this plot thread going? Not to mention, a client shows up to see X-Factor Jamie left behind who's convinced someone's out to get her, and is killing or kidnapping depowered mutants. Ah, shadowy foes. Still a noir book, after all.

And X-Factor sans Madrox? Oddly, they're working better as a team than they have... well... maybe since issue #12, or just EVER. Without Jamie to call the shots, they're getting along pretty well. And I mean all of 'em, including Darwin and Longshot. Darwin's not so over-the-top ridiculous in this issue, and PAD does have some fun explaining how his powers work, when they do. It's creative, but Darwin's still a character that is worth a damn, apparently. And sure, there's Longshot in this issue, but he's not nearly so asinine and difficult as a team member. Hell, even Strong Guy gets to be, dare I say it... INTELLIGENT in this issue. They take on a tech weapons shipment on behalf of Val Cooper. Guess Siryn wasn't too cheesed off at her, but whatever. The art, and writing are a welcome blend of bonding that this team needs. After all the tragedy, it's good to see them heal.

So, back to the future with Layla and Jamie (and not Michael J. Fox)? The cover of the issue isn't too deceptive, they have to face down an advanced Sentinel, just the two of them. And deal with the bizarre budding attraction between Madrox and barely-legal Layla. And just when things get darkest, who turns up in the cliffhanger? I'll give you a hint... they're of the Summers bloodline. Huh? That's like half the Marvel U? Oh. Well, she and Layla have already been fast friends. That might help.

All and all, Val De Landro's art captures a lot of the emotion of this title as it dances through the past, future, and several threads that, in some parlor scene down the line, will all connect. PAD pleas aside, the characterization all around is good, including when a terse Siryn and Rictor change the subject when the topic of her pregnancy comes up. If there's anything that's off-putting, it's the sudden instant attraction Jamie has for the "all growed up" Layla. Ease us into it, please. It's a little obvious where it's going. Let's just hope Rahne doesn't get an invite to the wedding, or something. But, all and all, a solid read today.

8.5/10

Spoilers were not kept to a minimum for issue 39. People spoiled and spoiled some more for that issue. I think the good writing and art had more to do with the sale increase than the spoilers which were rampant.

worstblogever
03-20-2009, 01:46 AM
Spoilers were not kept to a minimum for issue 39. People spoiled and spoiled some more for that issue.

I don't think anyone will lose sleep over it.

Alex A Sanchez
03-20-2009, 02:32 AM
I think I'll give it two weeks(if I can wait that long) before I post a thread Ruby Summers and Layla are back in X-Factor: you need to start reading this book!


We're talking Rictor and Guido on a road trip,

I like the Guido/Longshot pairing better, but seeing as how Rictor and Guido know each other better, the latter might make for a better story.

worstblogever
03-20-2009, 02:34 AM
I like the Guido/Longshot pairing better, but seeing as how Rictor and Guido know each other better, the latter might make for a better story.

Especially if they become a couple. PAD did mention something pending about whom Rictor would date in an eariler interview.

Of course, as he's said in this thread, he's a professional liar, so don't go betting the house on that.

x_goalkeeper
03-20-2009, 04:14 AM
Since I am 3 issues behind now and would probably only catch up with TPBs.. I am spoiling myself :tongue:

very interesting about the Summers person appearing! I did not expect it to happen really.. :cool:

Mitsaso
03-20-2009, 04:18 AM
That was sweet!

I don't mind that the "surprise ending" wasn't as heavy as previous ones, because it's a pleasant surprise. And I'll take a pleasant surprise anytime over a dark, grim and frostbitten one. :biggrin:

Peter David
03-20-2009, 04:19 AM
PAD, stop teasing around the subject and adress Rictor being bisexual, please?

I will definitely do that within the next six issues.

PAD

Peter David
03-20-2009, 04:22 AM
Does this has anything to do with the messiah war? hmmm...

Because people are clamoring for another tie-in storyline, right...?

PAD

passenger
03-20-2009, 04:25 AM
Is M-Day still in X-Factor's agenda?Will the possible future where X-Factor solve it be addressed?

Peter David
03-20-2009, 04:25 AM
Especially if they become a couple. PAD did mention something pending about whom Rictor would date in an eariler interview.

Of course, as he's said in this thread, he's a professional liar, so don't go betting the house on that.

No, Guido and Rictor are not going to become a couple. We've already seen the tragic results of getting romantically involved with someone at the office.

PAD

ExodusCloak
03-20-2009, 05:26 AM
I'm just surprised and dissapointed that Pad never uses Emma once not even when the x-factor confronted the x-men.

Would be cool to see Monet interacting with her former teacher.

To be fair he did use her fora few pages where she was standing in a room with M and Scott and says something along the lines of "The girls have found them" and later on she puts Madrox back to sleep. I think X-Factor #27...that was her first X-Factor appearance ever.

worstblogever
03-20-2009, 05:34 AM
No, Guido and Rictor are not going to become a couple. We've already seen the tragic results of getting romantically involved with someone at the office.

PAD

Ah, fair enough.

Twisted Bliss
03-20-2009, 05:44 AM
No, Guido and Rictor are not going to become a couple. We've already seen the tragic results of getting romantically involved with someone at the office.

PAD

Oh PAD don't be such a spoilsport.

Besides I don't think anyone at X-Factor investigations has any leg to stand on when it comes to staying on the right side of sexual harassment laws.

No poking the pay roll !

worstblogever
03-20-2009, 05:49 AM
Every member of the office slept with another member, too, except for Strong Guy.

Rahne & Rictor.
M & Madrox
Siryn & Madrox

Maybe the big guy is due? Can Lila Cheney pop in for a pity lay, at least?

Twisted Bliss
03-20-2009, 05:52 AM
Every member of the office slept with another member, too, except for Strong Guy.

Rahne & Rictor.
M & Madrox
Siryn & Madrox

Maybe the big guy is due? Can Lila Cheney pop in for a pity lay, at least?

I heard if that if Rahne was still there she'd be dragging her ass along the lobby carpet. Says a lot if the lobby carpet is getting more action than poor Guido.

Mitsaso
03-20-2009, 05:56 AM
Every member of the office slept with another member, too, except for Strong Guy.

Rahne & Rictor.
M & Madrox
Siryn & Madrox

Maybe the big guy is due? Can Lila Cheney pop in for a pity lay, at least?

So the remaining couple would be... Strong Guy and Layla?!?!! :eek:


ICK!!!!!!!!

timbox
03-20-2009, 06:01 AM
I can only imagine how inadequate Strong Guy is. Too many steroids.

Twisted Bliss
03-20-2009, 06:07 AM
I can only imagine how inadequate Strong Guy is. Too many steroids.

Not true.

His bod expands as he absorbs the kinetic blah blah blah...

Therefore he could be packing a torpedo that could put a horse to shame.

(Can't believe I'm discussing this)

Greg Anderson
03-20-2009, 06:09 AM
Not true.

His bod expands as he absorbs the kinetic blah blah blah...

Therefore he could be packing a torpedo that could put a horse to shame.



:eek: :eek:

darknessatnoon
03-20-2009, 06:11 AM
(Can't believe I'm discussing this)

I can believe it.

Greg Anderson
03-20-2009, 06:12 AM
Who says he ain't getting some off-panel? Maybe he's asexual? Who knows?!

Twisted Bliss
03-20-2009, 06:14 AM
I can believe it.

Isn't there a Systems technician somewhere who needs a crotch grabbing from you ?

darknessatnoon
03-20-2009, 06:15 AM
Isn't there a Systems technician somewhere who needs a crotch grabbing from you ?

I've got the day off. He can take care of himself for one day.

The Lucky One
03-20-2009, 06:21 AM
No, Guido and Rictor are not going to become a couple. We've already seen the tragic results of getting romantically involved with someone at the office.

If you're referring to my wife and I, we're still together (and at the same office) after 5 1/2 years, so nyaah!

-D

Twisted Bliss
03-20-2009, 06:24 AM
If you're referring to my wife and I, we're still together (and at the same office) after 5 1/2 years, so nyaah!

-D

Whoa.... the EGO has landed.

:wink:

timbox
03-20-2009, 06:36 AM
If you're referring to my wife and I, we're still together (and at the same office) after 5 1/2 years, so nyaah!

-D

Maybe that is the tragic part?

Twisted Bliss
03-20-2009, 06:37 AM
Maybe that is the tragic part?

OMG are you the wife ?!?

The Lucky One
03-20-2009, 07:34 AM
OMG are you the wife ?!?

Unless timbox pushed a 7 lb., 1 oz. baby out of his vagina five months ago, I would have to say no.

-D

Twisted Bliss
03-20-2009, 07:48 AM
Unless timbox pushed a 7 lb., 1 oz. baby out of his vagina five months ago, I would have to say no.

-D

Hey, timbox is nothing if not resourceful.

Besides. You'd be lucky to have a timbox. They're quite rare. Only given out at trade fairs by Official Nintendo representatives.

The Lucky One
03-20-2009, 08:38 AM
Besides. You'd be lucky to have a timbox. They're quite rare. Only given out at trade fairs by Official Nintendo representatives.

I've no doubt they command quite a high price on eBay, but my wife was limited to a manufacturing run of one, and there won't be any more made using the same mold in the future. I'll stick with what I've got. :wink:

-D

Twisted Bliss
03-20-2009, 08:51 AM
I've no doubt they command quite a high price on eBay, but my wife was limited to a manufacturing run of one, and there won't be any more made using the same mold in the future. I'll stick with what I've got. :wink:

-D

I'll break the news to our 'brave' little soldier.

OK-Deimos
03-20-2009, 12:14 PM
Pretty good issue, I'm loving the run X-factor is having at the moment. I found it's almost a tease (in a good sense) that the 'A' story from the last 2 issues, now culminating in the reappearance of Layla which I'm sure 99% of all readers were salivating to see/red more about, actually got a smaller amount of face time compared to the newer storylines brought in regarding the rest of the team. Very smart, really.

I'm not sure how I feel about the shift for the 'A' story at the moment though - the past two issues have been relatively grounded both when it came to the characters and the environment of what they were dealing with... well about as grounded as a comic about super powered mutants can be. I just hope that isn't lost in galavanting about with "big honking robots".

Spiral gives it 4 1/4 thumbs up out of 6.

tunasammiches
03-20-2009, 12:22 PM
Okay so Ruby Summers is Scott's daughter from an alternate future? Doesn't he have one of those already??

And I hope that nobody comes out as bisexual in X-factor. No one's exhibited those tendencies before, it would be random and tacky to do it now. Unless Rictor's battle to the death in May, is with Shatterstar. Shatterstar can be bi.

Also, can Rictor get his powers back already? I wanna see him kick some ass with it. It'd be nice to see him interact wtih Sam, Bobbi and the other New Mutants.

ps -I hope he finds out what happened to Tabby....

DeniseXfrost
03-20-2009, 12:32 PM
Okay so Ruby Summers is Scott's daughter from an alternate future? Doesn't he have one of those already??

She's the better one since she got half of Emma's superior genes.

jarrod
03-20-2009, 12:36 PM
She's the better one since she got half of Emma's superior genes.
Rachel Howlett is NOT Scott's daughter. Which makes her genes superior by default.

The Lucky One
03-20-2009, 12:57 PM
She's the better one since she got half of Emma's superior genes.

Oh sweetie, implants and plastic surgery don't get passed on through genetics.

-D

psycwave
03-20-2009, 01:01 PM
Ruby Summers is a gem. R'chel "Hound" Howlett is well........I love Jarrod so I wont finish my thought.

The Lucky One
03-20-2009, 01:01 PM
Rachel Howlett is NOT Scott's daughter. Which makes her genes superior by default.

Her last name isn't Howlett, it's "Thephoenixforce." It's a paternal family name.

-D

Vanish
03-20-2009, 01:16 PM
The X-men did get in a fight with the Astonishing team during Civil War
No Emma, but then again, she could have been having that talk with Stark at the time
They were together in a panel in Messiah Complex, but M was more of a background character in that story.
The whole Messiah Baby thng being more important then a mini Gen X reunion
though Emma and M talking again could be interesting. Their last Gen X interactions weren't too... pleasant.

Didn't Scott suggest using Monet for something in MC and Emma was like, "PLEASE."?

DeniseXfrost
03-20-2009, 01:18 PM
Oh sweetie, implants and plastic surgery don't get passed on through genetics.

-D
God, that's just sexist!

jester1436
03-20-2009, 01:39 PM
Okay so Ruby Summers is Scott's daughter from an alternate future? Doesn't he have one of those already??

And I hope that nobody comes out as bisexual in X-factor. No one's exhibited those tendencies before, it would be random and tacky to do it now. Unless Rictor's battle to the death in May, is with Shatterstar. Shatterstar can be bi.

Also, can Rictor get his powers back already? I wanna see him kick some ass with it. It'd be nice to see him interact wtih Sam, Bobbi and the other New Mutants.

ps -I hope he finds out what happened to Tabby....

Rictor likes penis and vagina. Deal.

Justin K.
03-20-2009, 01:41 PM
Rictor likes penis and vagina. Deal.

Who says he's not an assman?
http://www.chevroletpedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/seinfeld2.jpg

The Lucky One
03-20-2009, 01:57 PM
God, that's just sexist!

Uh... how so? :confused:

-D

DeniseXfrost
03-20-2009, 02:09 PM
Uh... how so? :confused:

-D
You discrimination against women who choose to take control of their lives...and plastic surgery.

Victorious
03-20-2009, 05:27 PM
And I hope that nobody comes out as bisexual in X-factor. No one's exhibited those tendencies before, it would be random and tacky to do it now. Unless Rictor's battle to the death in May, is with Shatterstar. Shatterstar can be bi.


Way back in X-Factor there were plans for Rictor and Shatterstar to be together at some point. Very subtle evidence is hinted in the dialogue and in their "relationship as best friends". It was something the writter played with. PAD also played a lot with that idea (the talk between Jamie and Rictor in the bar, Guido's comments, etc). But i think PAD didn't explore it more because of him and Rahne starting something, and it wasn't necessary.
Now i think is a good time to bring that back. Plus i think Guido and Rictor are going to have a little deep talk in that roadtrip, at least i hope so.
And i dont' really get how you think that beacause someone doesn't exhibited those tendencies in the past they can't not be it (it is not like every character have a label on their fronthead exposing their sexual election). Anyone can came out as bisexual if the writter wants to and see it fit. Rictor, specially, has a history about it and has been hinted several times. The idea is already there, is not something PAD is coming up with, he just played with an already existing idea about Rictor and hopefully he'll develop it more .

That JonoGuy
03-20-2009, 05:30 PM
You discrimination against women who choose to take control of their lives...and plastic surgery.

Not to stray off topic, but how exactly is a women undergoing plastic surgery and breast implantation taking control of ones life? It sounds more like a women allowing societies pressures to control their lives.

The Lucky One
03-20-2009, 06:50 PM
Way back in X-Factor there were plans for Rictor and Shatterstar to be together at some point. Very subtle evidence is hinted in the dialogue and in their "relationship as best friends". It was something the writter played with.

Well, sort of. It wasn't in X-Factor, it was in X-Force. Still, there were sporadic hints that Shatterstar was attracted to Rictor; the biggest was in X-Force #56, when Siryn and Shatterstar were together and a caption read "She has lost Warpath. He has lost Rictor. Both see these missing teammates as 'friends.' Both too stubborn to admit they may mean more than that."

I don't much care whether Rictor is bi, gay, or straight -- his only serious relationship with a woman was Rahne, and I tend to like her other love interests better -- but it's true that, like Iceman, Rictor potentially being bi or gay is something fans decided might be true without much, if any, in-story innuendo in that direction. The X-Force stories hint at Shatterstar having a crush, but until PAD had some (hilarious) fun with it in that recent issue of X-Factor, no writer had ever suggested that Rictor felt the same way.

-D

Greg Anderson
03-20-2009, 07:01 PM
I do recall reading that a writer of X-Force intended on revealing that Rictor was bi years back.

Justin K.
03-20-2009, 07:03 PM
I do recall reading that a writer of X-Force intended on revealing that Rictor was bi years back.

Which writer and where?

Greg Anderson
03-20-2009, 07:07 PM
Which writer and where?

I believe it was when Loeb was writing. His plans were to have Rictor come out and have a relationship with Shatterstar but that plan never fell through.

Victorious
03-20-2009, 08:00 PM
Well, sort of. It wasn't in X-Factor, it was in X-Force. Still, there were sporadic hints that Shatterstar was attracted to Rictor; the biggest was in X-Force #56, when Siryn and Shatterstar were together and a caption read "She has lost Warpath. He has lost Rictor. Both see these missing teammates as 'friends.' Both too stubborn to admit they may mean more than that."

I don't much care whether Rictor is bi, gay, or straight -- his only serious relationship with a woman was Rahne, and I tend to like her other love interests better -- but it's true that, like Iceman, Rictor potentially being bi or gay is something fans decided might be true without much, if any, in-story innuendo in that direction. The X-Force stories hint at Shatterstar having a crush, but until PAD had some (hilarious) fun with it in that recent issue of X-Factor, no writer had ever suggested that Rictor felt the same way.

-D

yep, true, i mean x-force. and yes that was one big hint there about them being "friends". or at least Shatterstar seeing Rictor as a "friend". i feel like lots of characters were on that grey area some times in thier history (Bobby, Rictor, Ororo, Kitty...) and that any writter can pick that up if he feels to. i'm glad that PAD is the one bringing Rictor's bisexuality, if there is anyone i trust in writting that kind of stuff right is him.

Victorious
03-20-2009, 08:12 PM
ohh i found this in a quick search:

http://www.geocities.com/ricshatty/proofs.html

the panel "the lucky one" mentioned:

http://www.geocities.com/ricshatty/scans/490000.jpg



and this old thread about the topic:

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=252522

orkoni1
03-20-2009, 09:12 PM
PAD if you read this, please if Ruby can have her color scheme version of her force blast as opposed to making them just like her fathers. I thought it was cool how hers started out red and as they left her proximity they turned black.

Please!!!! Im Begging!!!

DeniseXfrost
03-20-2009, 11:19 PM
Not to stray off topic, but how exactly is a women undergoing plastic surgery and breast implantation taking control of ones life? It sounds more like a women allowing societies pressures to control their lives.
or she just wants to look good and taking the matter to own hand?

Alex A Sanchez
03-21-2009, 02:33 AM
Because people are clamoring for another tie-in storyline, right...?


My vote is to stay far away from that Messiah War mess. But that's just me. I liked Messiah Complex, but it seems things had a way of getting lame afterwards.

Is M-Day still in X-Factor's agenda?Will the possible future where X-Factor solve it be addressed?

I was upset to see that Fraction is having the X-Men take the lead in looking for a solution to M-Day. LAME. That was X-Factor's job for years, and while everyone was chasing that damn baby around, they forgot about M-Day. Now that things have cooled off they just want to take the job back? Without even mentioning the work that Jamie and Co. have done?

No, Guido and Rictor are not going to become a couple. We've already seen the tragic results of getting romantically involved with someone at the office.

PAD

Please don't be lying about this. I have no problem with taking a character and adding to him/her, but Guido has already been portrayed much differently. He's a slut who sleeps with celebrities, cheerleaders, and famous actresses who doesn't have sexual hang-ups. There is a comedic element to him, and not involving him in serious relationships is part of that element.

Who says he ain't getting some off-panel? Maybe he's asexual? Who knows?!

Guido has always gotten his play off-panel. See my comment from above (I don't make this stuff up either- it's in the comics).

Alex A Sanchez
03-21-2009, 02:37 AM
You discrimination against women who choose to take control of their lives...and plastic surgery.

Please don't start this discussion. I agree that there is plenty of sexism in comic books and in comic book fandom- this just isn't one of those incidents.

Men have facial plastic surgery as well as chest, calve and other various implants for cosmetic reasons. Many people are against cosmetic surgery, regardless of gender, because of the principle. It's like taking the "cure" for being a mutant: you don't accept you for who you are.

KrullWall
03-21-2009, 05:39 AM
I really doubt PAD will even touch on Rictor's sexuality at all. I think he is just doing this stuff to make us talk. So good work PAD

Peter David
03-21-2009, 06:03 AM
I really doubt PAD will even touch on Rictor's sexuality at all. I think he is just doing this stuff to make us talk. So good work PAD

See? Even when I tell the truth, people don't believe me.

PAD

Greg Anderson
03-21-2009, 07:58 AM
You know, I've never read much of Shatterstar but I wonder if we'll ever get any stories with him and Rictor hanging out again.

OK-Deimos
03-21-2009, 11:49 AM
Shatterstar needs to appear in X-Farce and be unceremoniously shot in the head, never to appear in a comic or even in passing discussion ever again.

Mundungus
03-21-2009, 11:50 AM
I've noticed that there has only been a focus on Bishop's future since Messiah CompleX. I suppose you could consider that dramatic irony because we're watching the X-Men and co. try to save mutantkind when everything their doing could be leading up to Bishop's timeline.

Isn't Bishop's future an alternate version of the Days of Future Past storyline?

Here's a relevant question: Has Jamie ever experienced a memory reabsorption from the dupe sent to the other possible future? I don't think it's ever been touched on.

Hi-Fi
03-21-2009, 12:04 PM
I really doubt PAD will even touch on Rictor's sexuality at all. I think he is just doing this stuff to make us talk. So good work PAD
Well, it's a very safe solution to just tease about the subject and never deal with it, trying to please both sides. I never took PAD for a writer who goes with the safe solution.

Alex A Sanchez
03-21-2009, 02:39 PM
I've noticed that there has only been a focus on Bishop's future since Messiah CompleX. I suppose you could consider that dramatic irony because we're watching the X-Men and co. try to save mutantkind when everything their doing could be leading up to Bishop's timeline.

Isn't Bishop's future an alternate version of the Days of Future Past storyline?

Here's a relevant question: Has Jamie ever experienced a memory reabsorption from the dupe sent to the other possible future? I don't think it's ever been touched on.

Wow- I've never even thought of that before, but I LOVE it. What if Bishop really is the only good guy here?

Then again, he's trying to kill a kid. There's just no excuse for that- he could have been a mentor to her or done something else to prevent her from doing whatever it is that she does. He knows the sequence of events- her death/living isn't the only one that can be changed.

darknessatnoon
03-21-2009, 02:41 PM
Well, it's a very safe solution to just tease about the subject and never deal with it

Oh, the irony!

Grunty
03-22-2009, 12:07 PM
Hey someone was right about Layla taking Madrox back with her into the future.

Who of us was it, again?

For the rest of the issue, it was pretty solid.
The scene in the church when Madrox went away almost got me, i really belived it was over but then the reveal later was nicely placed (good again i skipped the spoilers).
This in addtition of Guido and others on the freighter gave us some nice action scenes.
Which reminds me, i really hope we won't get another "action over plot" arc like the X-cell one again in near future. Action is not a good enchange for story. Especialy in a story and character driven book like this.

Oh and that girl who asked X-factor to investigate the case of her dead friend should watch out when falling for Longshot.
Spiral and Dazzler can tell stories about the consequenzes.

See? Even when I tell the truth, people don't believe me.

PAD

This might either come from people not being used to get hints from the writers directly, or because they belive you are just throwing red herings.

Omega Alpha
03-22-2009, 12:36 PM
Hey someone was right about Layla taking Madrox back with her into the future.

Who of us was it, again?


Huh... a lot of people, including me?

Grunty
03-22-2009, 12:39 PM
Huh... a lot of people, including me?

Sure, but i just remembered someone comming up with it first, which created a "damn he could be right moment" when i read it. But since you say several others had the same idea too. I guess it was nothing exclusive of him to come up with it.

Omega Alpha
03-22-2009, 01:00 PM
Sure, but i just remembered someone comming up with it first, which created a "damn he could be right moment" when i read it. But since you say several others had the same idea too. I guess it was nothing exclusive of him to come up with it.

Well, the solicits had Madrox fighting Sentinels in one issue, meeting Cyclops in the next. Not that hard to do the math.

mrno74
03-24-2009, 08:24 AM
Pages made by Marco Santucci (me) from this issue... :)

http://www.marcosantucciart.com/news_170309_ing.html

Marco

protogarrett
03-24-2009, 08:32 AM
See? Even when I tell the truth, people don't believe me.

PAD


PAD you are doing phenomenal with this book. Love Ruby, can't wait to see what you do with adult Layla, and loving the entire damn cast. You are even making Longshot and Darwin enjoyable. Props to you.

Alex A Sanchez
04-02-2009, 01:14 PM
Pages made by Marco Santucci (me) from this issue... :)

http://www.marcosantucciart.com/news_170309_ing.html

Marco

Sweet! Thanks for posting these. Congrats on the Marvel gig.


PAD... can't wait to see what you do with adult Layla.

I know what I'd do with adult Layla... yummmmmmmmm.

j/k :redface: