X-Force #13 - Review and Spoilers

[CyclopsFan6894]

This book continues to surpass itself. Just when I think I have read the best X-Force issue to date, this month's issue comes out and tops it. There are so many dynamics going on with in this book that if you don't pay attention they can be overlooked quite easily.

What Christopher Yost and Craig Kyle have managed to do and what Clayton Crain has managed to capture with his art is a sense of urgency that is so often missed by other writers and artists.

we have two plots in this book, the Search for Cable and the hunt for the Leper Queen and her hostages. The point has been made that the Messiah Child takes priority over any targets and once Cable is located the team is leaving, ready or not. I loved this aspect, it really pushes forward the point the writers and editors have been trying to make that Cyclops is making hard choices, difficult choices. Do you fight for the present or the future of your species ? This comes off perfectly in this issue, the disagreement between Cyclops and Wolverine over who takes priority is great.

The way the two plots in this book, the Search for Cable and the Search for the missing students, come together at the end of this book is really brilliant. you have X-Force raiding the compound that the Leper Queen is in only to find that Hellion and Surge have both been put in route. Just as they burst in to rescue Boom Boom Beast tells Cyclops they have found Cable. The desperation that follows from both Cyclops and Wolverine is some of the best writing I've read in a long time. I say this because of the sense of urgency and desperation in the voice of both characters. Wolverine is screaming for the location of the kids and Cyclops is screaming that it's time to go and the climax of this scene is one I will read over and over for months and years to come. It's perfect.

I think the time travel stuff is tough to explain but in the X-Position thread I laid out why I believe they have to leave when they do. Cable will always be at the one place in time, correct, but that's not how it was said these detector things work. X-Force doesn't seem to be able to jump right to specific point in time, they jump to Cable in that specific point in time. No Cable, no link to that time. It appears that machine Beast has that is reading these signals is reading them in real time so if Cable is in a certain spot in time for one hour, they have one hour to get to that certain spot in time or else they will lose him. They had to find him before they could jump to him.


This brings us to the Leper Queen, who I admit once thought was a throw away Character from earlier days. It isn't clear at first why Boom Boom is a separate target but finally at the end it's made clear. The Leper Queen hates mutants, despises them with all her burnt heart, but she does not wish to be under Bastion's control, she does not want to kill humans so she has come up with a way, she thinks, to finally kill herself and be free. She is using Boom Boom as bait, to get X-Force to kill her. Her speech at the end is so tragic, she really is a character that I want to read more of and it's all due to the writing of Yost and Kyle.

Another character done well, that my username clearly shows a bias for, is Cyclops. Agree or disagree with his actions isn't the point here, his character arc is really becoming something special, it's starting to take the shape of Tony Stark. The actions take on the last two pages of this issue are something that this character will have to live with. Once it's found out what happened, there is no one else more responsible then Scott Summers. His faith, his belief that the Messiah Baby is the one hope for the mutant kind and that giving her to Cable was the right move now has blood splatter of an innocent mutant all over it. Watching Cyclops path take shape post-MC has been quite a pleasure for me.

In closing, this issue was great. We got a great segue-way into Messiah War without the usually filler issue we usually get before a crossover . The scenes with the Leper Queen steal the show and the last page is shocking and stunning and hopefully will lead to a major conflict between the team and Cyclops once they return to the timeline.

10/10

[Mr. Cakes]

I, for one, won't miss Boom Boom (despite her being eerily hot in this issue).

[Optic Rage!]

This book still makes me hot.

Pretty much perfect.

[Novaya Havoc]

Absolutely. Freakin'. Amazing.

The high tension and drama -- especially at the end -- really made the book. It makes me fondly remember the Exiles (when it was good) and how anyone can go at any time. The Leper Queen sub-plot and "mutant terrorism" via Legacy is absolutely fantastic.

Brilliant, brilliant issue. More: this is a title that writes Cyclops well. Much better than Uncanny. Blech.

A+!

[darknessatnoon]

I am sure Boomer isn't dead for good. Her stepfather/pimp and mother figure will come back in time with Elixir to heal her. Unfortunately, none of them will make it to the U.N. in time to save the two New X-Men losers.

[darknessatnoon]

Absolutely. Freakin'. Amazing.

The high tension and drama -- especially at the end -- really made the book. It makes me fondly remember the Exiles (when it was good) and how anyone can go at any time. The Leper Queen sub-plot and "mutant terrorism" via Legacy is absolutely fantastic.

Brilliant, brilliant issue. More: this is a title that writes Cyclops well. Much better than Uncanny. Blech.

A+!

I agree that Cyclops actually fits well here. And I love what Yost and Kyle had to say about the Wolverine/Cyclops dynamic. About how they rely on one another to make themselves feel less responsible for their hard choices.

[Samuraixsithlord]

So Boom Boom is dead, and X-Force chose to go after Cable and Hope instead of saving Surge and Hellion?

[darknessatnoon]

So Boom Boom is dead, and X-Force chose to go after Cable and Hope instead of saving Surge and Hellion?

They don't have much of a choice, obviously, if Cyclops presses the time travel button against their will.

[JValentine]

I am sure Boomer isn't dead for good. Her stepfather/pimp and mother figure will come back in time with Elixir to heal her. Unfortunately, none of them will make it to the U.N. in time to save the two New X-Men losers.

Hellion >> Surge >>>>> Boom Boom.

Hellion and Surge will be saved.

Awesome issue. Best issue of the series so far.

[Seres]

So Boom Boom is dead, and X-Force chose to go after Cable and Hope instead of saving Surge and Hellion?

Tabby really is dead? Ugh, this book is saddening and predictable sometimes.

[CyclopsFan6894]

So Boom Boom is dead, and X-Force chose to go after Cable and Hope instead of saving Surge and Hellion?

X-Force didn't choose, Cyclops chose. He told them before they go in what would happen when they found Cable.

[RoguishGurl]

This book is so freakishly awesome! It's so perfect. Everything just...wow.

[Leogam]

so Hellion,Surge & Boom Boom are dead ?? The onlyone I would have expected to die was Surge, but How could they kill off Boom Boom she was a favorite of mine I hope they bring her back out of the three, and I was also starting to like Hellion, dont care much for Surge

[CyclopsFan6894]

Tabby really is dead? Ugh, this book is saddening and predictable sometimes.

Yes

What happens is Wolverine is screaming at her asking where the kids are and Cyclops is in his ear telling him it's time to go. Leper Queen tells him to find their ashes at the UN building. Wolverine screams for Domino to shoot her but right as Domino pulls the gun out Cyclops hits the button, unaware that Domino was about to kill the Leper Queen.

Leper Queen starts laughing as they disappear. She says Bastion won't kill her, he won't allow her to kill herself. She looks at Boom Boom who is waking up and says that they were suppose to save her and then kill her (Leper Queen). She puts the gun to Tabby's head and pulls the trigger. The last page of the Leper Queen standing over Tabby and saying "They failed".

Hellion and Surge are not shown as dead. They were gone when X-Force raided the facility. Their story will be picked up after Messiah War, beauty of time travel.

[darknessatnoon]

>>>>> Boom Boom.



You're kidding, right? If not, find a psychiatrist immediately.

[Samuraixsithlord]

well it's Time Travel, i'm sure Cable or Wolverine will travel back in time and stop the Leper Queen before she kills Tabby.

[RoguishGurl]

You're kidding, right? If not, find a psychiatrist immediately.
It should be Hellion>>>Boom Boom>>>>>>>>>>>>>poop>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Surge

[Optic Rage!]

Tabby really is dead? Ugh, this book is saddening and predictable sometimes.

Better throw those eggs out now eh?

[DeniseXfrost]

No!!!!!!!!!!!Not Boom Boom!

[Pixie_Solanas]

Wasn't Boom Boom just a white trash Jubilee anyway?

[darknessatnoon]

Wasn't Boom Boom just a white trash Jubilee anyway?

What's your problem with white trash? You some kind of racist?

[Pixie_Solanas]

What's your problem with white trash? You some kind of racist?

No sir. I love me some honkey trash.

[Seres]

Better throw those eggs out now eh?

I know! I guessed this was going to happen as soon as I saw the previews, so I thought I might as well be celebratory and obnoxious while I had the chance.

The writers chose to introduce Tabby to the story and kill her off in the same issue she first appeared in. She could've been any character, but all that mattered was that Wolverine and Cyclops had something to feel bad about by the time the story was done. I was worried that death was going to become really cheap in X-Force: and now I'm really really worried.

If the team left that scene to time-travel out, then won't they return to exactly the same point in time? Surely that would then provide them with the chance to try and save Boom Boom all over again. Heck, they could return to a slightly earlier point in time now they know where Hellion/Surge are, and go save all three of them simultaneously. But I'm starting to think that death is all X-Force has to offer, at this point.

[chickrockguitar]

Damn! I want my issue now!

[protogarrett]

The commentary so far has just sucked me in! Anyone have spoilers? I am back in Israel and our mail ensures I get my comics about 3-4 weeks after you guys do.

Very sad. :frown:

[CyclopsFan6894]

I know! I guessed this was going to happen as soon as I saw the previews, so I thought I might as well be celebratory and obnoxious while I had the chance.

The writers chose to introduce Tabby to the story and kill her off in the same issue she first appeared in. She could've been any character, but all that mattered was that Wolverine and Cyclops had something to feel bad about by the time the story was done. I was worried that death was going to become really cheap in X-Force: and now I'm really really worried.

If the team left that scene to time-travel out, then won't they return to exactly the same point in time? Surely that would then provide them with the chance to try and save Boom Boom all over again. Heck, they could return to a slightly earlier point in time now they know where Hellion/Surge are, and go save all three of them simultaneously. But I'm starting to think that death is all X-Force has to offer, at this point.

It that is how you very this series now then I have to say you really missing out on a lot of great story telling and character arcs.

[Hakael]

Wow. Just... wow. Scott Summers is the biggest toolbox ever.

I loved how angry Wolverine was about Scott's priorities. I loved that Beast refused to hit the button. Beast needs to stand up for himself. They've played at it a lot in X-Force, and now in Uncanny but I'd love to see him take a stand on something instead of caving in out of respect and friendship.

Has Scott gone crazy? The death toll for this kid is getting pretty high. If this does indeed doom Hellion and Surge to death, that will be four X-Men sacrificed for this girl, who is already being looked after by Cable. Well, chances are we won't figure out what the repercussions of this are until the end of Messiah War.

This is a worse call than any of the questionable decisions Xavier made.

[darknessatnoon]

The writers chose to introduce Tabby to the story and kill her off in the same issue she first appeared in. She could've been any character, but all that mattered was that Wolverine and Cyclops had something to feel bad about by the time the story was done. I was worried that death was going to become really cheap in X-Force: and now I'm really really worried.

I don't think so. Tabitha is actually a brilliant choice as she has meaning to three members of the team (Vanisher, Warpath and Domino) in addition to Cyclops (who first recruited her into the team) and Cable (who they're off to save).

[darknessatnoon]

Wow. Just... wow. Scott Summers is the biggest toolbox ever.

I loved how angry Wolverine was about Scott's priorities. I loved that Beast refused to hit the button. Beast needs to stand up for himself. They've played at it a lot in X-Force, and now in Uncanny but I'd love to see him take a stand on something instead of caving in out of respect and friendship.

Has Scott gone crazy? The death toll for this kid is getting pretty high. If this does indeed doom Hellion and Surge to death, that will be four X-Men sacrificed for this girl, who is already being looked after by Cable. Well, chances are we won't figure out what the repercussions of this are until the end of Messiah War.

This is a worse call than any of the questionable decisions Xavier made.

Yeah. Boom Boom and Caliban are more important than the survival of the species. I would love to put my fate in your hands.

[JValentine]

that will be four X-Men sacrificed for this girl, who is already being looked after by Cable.



Who will they be?

[Seres]

It that is how you very this series now then I have to say you really missing out on a lot of great story telling and character arcs.

I've read the first ten issues, and whilst the characters are consistent with what we know, there's been little development in any of them. No character has yet been developed beyond the first arc, and that was presumably the arc which won the pitch for this series in the first place. Since then, Archangel and Rahne haven't had anything interesting to do, and the story has been predictable. X-23 has had something to do, and Elixir has been developed, true, but the rest of them are the same as they've ever been.

I am also upset that they killed off one of my favourite characters for no reason! This fills me with righteous anger.

For a series which was meant to have a dark premise and a cast who we were told were expendable in the name of a greater story, so far all we've seen are a lot of side-characters and faceless extras die without any repercussions at all. X-23, Wolverine, Domino, Warpath, Archangel are never going to be at any actual risk.

If we get any reaction to her death other than mild sadness, I will retract this. But I do not expect there to be much reaction at all.

[Hakael]

Yeah. Boom Boom and Caliban are more important than the survival of the species. I would love to put my fate in your hands.

They don't know she's the key to that, they never have. They simply think she could be. Not to mention, she's already being looked after. Sure, Cable may need help... or he may not. Scott doesn't know this. Caliban is one thing, he knew what he was doing heading out there with the team and he saved Warpath. Punching X-Force out before the job was done and essentially dooming three X-Men for the sake of a possibility is completely different.

and the four dead, for JV, would be Caliban (who died in Messiah Complex), Boom Boom (who was just killed in X-Force 13), Hellion and Surge (who have yet to die, but are obviously considered expendable by fearless leader Cyclops)

[CyclopsFan6894]

I've read the first ten issues, and whilst the characters are consistent with what we know, there's been little development in any of them. No character has yet been developed beyond the first arc, and that was presumably the arc which won the pitch for this series in the first place. Since then, Archangel and Rahne haven't had anything interesting to do, and the story has been predictable. X-23 has had something to do, and Elixir has been developed, true, but the rest of them are the same as they've ever been.

I am also upset that they killed off one of my favourite characters for no reason! This fills me with righteous anger.

For a series which was meant to have a dark premise and a cast who we were told were expendable in the name of a greater story, so far all we've seen are a lot of side-characters and faceless extras die without any repercussions at all. X-23, Wolverine, Domino, Warpath, Archangel are never going to be at any actual risk.

The continued development of the main cast in this book has been brilliant, sorry you are missing out on it.

[protogarrett]

I know! I guessed this was going to happen as soon as I saw the previews, so I thought I might as well be celebratory and obnoxious while I had the chance.

The writers chose to introduce Tabby to the story and kill her off in the same issue she first appeared in. She could've been any character, but all that mattered was that Wolverine and Cyclops had something to feel bad about by the time the story was done. I was worried that death was going to become really cheap in X-Force: and now I'm really really worried.

If the team left that scene to time-travel out, then won't they return to exactly the same point in time? Surely that would then provide them with the chance to try and save Boom Boom all over again. Heck, they could return to a slightly earlier point in time now they know where Hellion/Surge are, and go save all three of them simultaneously. But I'm starting to think that death is all X-Force has to offer, at this point.

Yeah, well, they could have done the same for Stacy X a month ago. They didn't. Hell they could save Jean too, and every other dead X-Men, but yeeeeah, don't see it happening.

[Leirus]

Time travel !! I hope they will be back in time to save her. It seems kind of pointless to kill Boom-Boom now.

However, I think it would feel more "real" if Hellion and Surge are dead in the future but they are back in time to save them, because they were still not "dead" when they left... That is kind of logic for me...

[darknessatnoon]

They don't know she's the key to that, they never have. They simply think she could be. Not to mention, she's already being looked after. Sure, Cable may need help... or he may not. Scott doesn't know this. Caliban is one thing, he knew what he was doing heading out there with the team and he saved Warpath. Punching X-Force out before the job was done and essentially dooming three X-Men for the sake of a possibility is completely different.

Don't poop your pants over this. The story is not over, and Cyclops has plenty of reason to believe the baby is important. I think the converging interests of Sinister, the Purifiers, Bishop, Mystique, Cable and Exodus all suggest she's not just some unimportant kid.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Wow. Just... wow. Scott Summers is the biggest toolbox ever.

I loved how angry Wolverine was about Scott's priorities. I loved that Beast refused to hit the button. Beast needs to stand up for himself. They've played at it a lot in X-Force, and now in Uncanny but I'd love to see him take a stand on something instead of caving in out of respect and friendship.

Has Scott gone crazy? The death toll for this kid is getting pretty high. If this does indeed doom Hellion and Surge to death, that will be four X-Men sacrificed for this girl, who is already being looked after by Cable. Well, chances are we won't figure out what the repercussions of this are until the end of Messiah War.

This is a worse call than any of the questionable decisions Xavier made.

Toolbox? Didn't you see the full page of Scott at his mahogany CEO desk? Pensive, weight of the world on his shoulders. He's making tough decisions, and ones that don't include which big meaty ribbed device to use in bed with Emma.

[Seres]

The continued development of the main cast in this book has been brilliant, sorry you are missing out on it.

Please expand on your belief. Merely stating it does not explain anything for my poor deluded brain :frown:

[ExodusCloak]

So how do you think Scott is going to explain Boom Booms death to the other X-Men not that they'll care or anything. Her death is hilarious IMO...if someone had to be cannon fodder I'm glad it was her....someone needs to change her status on facebook to deceased.

[Ronin1108]

the feelin im gettin from this is cable might come back to the present to "have words" with scott bout his bullshit decisions, iand i cant wait for the cyclops bitch slap club to re-open lol..

[Jay Dogg]

the feelin im gettin from this is cable might come back to the present to "have words" with scott bout his bullshit decisions, iand i cant wait for the cyclops bitch slap club to re-open lol..

From the look of last month's Wolverine Origins, it looks like Daken is about to join...

[Majinoaw]

Heel Persona:
One could make the point if one were not a total mark that is, that if Cyke kept (all) his team in the know, that Boom Boom (Meltdown) could be saved and that the other teammates could rush in and help out Surge and Hellion. I mean there are like 20 X-men in Sanfran now..
But Marks can't get past that point and have discussion. They want to throw verbal fisticuffs.

[CyclopsFan6894]

Wow. Just... wow. Scott Summers is the biggest toolbox ever.

I loved how angry Wolverine was about Scott's priorities. I loved that Beast refused to hit the button. Beast needs to stand up for himself. They've played at it a lot in X-Force, and now in Uncanny but I'd love to see him take a stand on something instead of caving in out of respect and friendship.

Has Scott gone crazy? The death toll for this kid is getting pretty high. If this does indeed doom Hellion and Surge to death, that will be four X-Men sacrificed for this girl, who is already being looked after by Cable. Well, chances are we won't figure out what the repercussions of this are until the end of Messiah War.

This is a worse call than any of the questionable decisions Xavier made.

I wouldn't call him a toolbox, he's making tough decisions, really difficult choices and it's going to cost him. His entire belief is that this kid will save the mutant species and now it's cost Boom Boom her life. I think it's an excellent development, he now has blood on his hands, it's not just the blood of countless racists Purifiers or cloned Marauders, it's a mutant he's known since way back in the early X-Factor days. A mutant he helped train, friend to two of X-Force's members, it's a big development. It's a shame Tabby died, but her death is being used to fuel a great story, I think it's acceptable.

[The Lucky One]

X-Force 13 or Uncanny 507, which is the better read?

I'm personally not reading either, but from what I gather from other people's reactions, that's like asking which is better, an ice cream sundae or a kick in the nuts.

-D

[fitditz]

Ack! I shouldn't have opened this....at work and now gotta wait 4 more hours before I can go grab my issue!!!! How will I survive???:confused:

[Hakael]

Don't poop your pants over this. The story is not over, and Cyclops has plenty of reason to believe the baby is important. I think the converging interests of Sinister, the Purifiers, Bishop, Mystique, Cable and Exodus all suggest she's not just some unimportant kid.

I understand that Hope is important. But she's not a sure thing savior to mutant kind. Hell, Bishop thinks she's exactly the opposite. Also, I just clarified my position, not freaking out. I enjoyed this issue of X-Force a lot. Scott made the wrong choice, is all. That's great as a plot point, but as a leadership decision, he just left three people who trusted him out to dry for something he's not even sure of yet. I'm not even counting him risking the lives of everyone on X-Force for these untested Time Machines.

[CyclopsFan6894]

I understand that Hope is important. But she's not a sure thing savior to mutant kind. Hell, Bishop thinks she's exactly the opposite. Also, I just clarified my position, not freaking out. I enjoyed this issue of X-Force a lot. Scott made the wrong choice, is all. That's great as a plot point, but as a leadership decision, he just left three people who trusted him out to dry for something he's not even sure of yet. I'm not even counting him risking the lives of everyone on X-Force for these untested Time Machines.

It all makes some for great, great reading. He's risking a lot on this kid, I almost hope she doesn't pan out to be the savior, I'd love to see him try to come to terms with everything he's had to do.

[nightw1ng]

ya know, at first i was thinking that once Scott and Emma's actions came to light, Emma would be the one who was more villified, but now I think it will be Scott. i would love to see a storyline where the X-Men force him out as leader and tell him to leave, and Emma will have to choose between him and the taking care of what's left of the mutants.

[AcesX1X]

LOL! so cyclops has basically just murdered boom boom.

i am so hysterical right now. i love this book, but it tore my heart out to see her shot in the head.

[jester1436]

I wouldn't call him a toolbox, he's making tough decisions, really difficult choices and it's going to cost him. His entire belief is that this kid will save the mutant species and now it's cost Boom Boom her life. I think it's an excellent development, he now has blood on his hands, it's not just the blood of countless racists Purifiers or cloned Marauders, it's a mutant he's known since way back in the early X-Factor days. A mutant he helped train, friend to two of X-Force's members, it's a big development. It's a shame Tabby died, but her death is being used to fuel a great story, I think it's acceptable.

*inserts Women in Refrigerators reference here*

[RoguishGurl]

LOL! so cyclops has basically just murdered boom boom.

i am so hysterical right now. i love this book, but it tore my heart out to see her shot in the head.
It will be ok. I mean, people have survived being shot in the head...right?

[darknessatnoon]

It will be ok. I mean, people have survived being shot in the head...right?

Icarus did, right? Wait...

[AcesX1X]

It will be ok. I mean, people have survived being shot in the head...right?

i mean, yeah. i suppose so. she did look very lovely in her "death" scene, regardless. i hope she joins x-force. the only thing that could enhance all this death is massive explosions in people's faces.

[Peter F.]

It will be ok. I mean, people have survived being shot in the head...right?

Other than Wolverine? Sure, it's kind of rare though.

[Vanish]

It will be ok. I mean, people have survived being shot in the head...right?

Professor X did!

And he didn't have hair.

BOOM BOOM 4 LYFE.

[theardri]

Other than Wolverine? Sure, it's kind of rare though.

*Cough* Xavier *Cough*... that one turned out really well too right?

[RoguishGurl]

Icarus did, right? Wait...
LOL. He will come back someday. Josef has convinced me.

i mean, yeah. i suppose so. she did look very lovely in her "death" scene, regardless. i hope she joins x-force. the only thing that could enhance all this death is massive explosions in people's faces.
She did! I want that dress she was wearing.

Other than Wolverine? Sure, it's kind of rare though.
The evil guy from the World is Not Enough survived it...what if Tabby became like him. Slowly dying and without feeling. Then again, Elixir could just heal her.

[Optic Rage!]

I understand that Hope is important. But she's not a sure thing savior to mutant kind. Hell, Bishop thinks she's exactly the opposite. Also, I just clarified my position, not freaking out. I enjoyed this issue of X-Force a lot. Scott made the wrong choice, is all. That's great as a plot point, but as a leadership decision, he just left three people who trusted him out to dry for something he's not even sure of yet. I'm not even counting him risking the lives of everyone on X-Force for these untested Time Machines.

So, if Hope DOES turn out to be the future of mutantkind, will you retract all this and admit that Cyclops did the right thing?

If you use some logic, regardless if Hope is the saviour or not she is the only chance of mutant survival. So the sacrifices have to be made, they may turn out to be worth nothing, but it is a risk worth taking.

If she's turns out not to be, they are fucked, if she dies and is, again they are fucked.

Sometimes hard choices have to be made. It's easy to sit around and bitch about it after the fact.

[lockerogue]

LOL this sounds amazing, but I love the fact that Cyclops is trying to save the Mutant race yet instead everyone is dying. He couldn't wait two more seconds. Two more seconds at the wonderful Leper Queen would have been dead.

[RoguishGurl]

Professor X did!

And he didn't have hair.

BOOM BOOM 4 LYFE.

*Cough* Xavier *Cough*... that one turned out really well too right?
Oh yeah! I forgot about Xavier! If he can do it, Tabby totally can.

[AcesX1X]

i can't believe i was actually cheering in my heart for the vanisher, of all people..

[Optic Rage!]

LOL! so cyclops has basically just murdered boom boom.

i am so hysterical right now. i love this book, but it tore my heart out to see her shot in the head.

**KUHSLASH**

This is the sound of my whip BTW.

[Swashbuckler]

Simply amazing read. I loved the end. I couldn't stop shouting outloud when I was reading.

[Optic Rage!]

LOL this sounds amazing, but I love the fact that Cyclops is trying to save the Mutant race yet instead everyone is dying. He couldn't wait two more seconds. Two more seconds at the wonderful Leper Queen would have been dead.

He also might be the one to save the mutant race, we will see how the story ends.

[AcesX1X]

He also might be the one to save the mutant race, we will see how the story ends.

cyclops is so extreme. i love him in x-force.

i'm just going to pretend this is the only x-men book that exists from now on.

[darknessatnoon]

cyclops is so extreme. i love him in x-force.

i'm just going to pretend this is the only x-men book that exists from now on.

That's because he's stealing Sage's personality.

[AcesX1X]

That's because he's stealing Sage's personality.

......you know what? that's actually really true. no wonder he resonates so well in this book.

someone needs to get brian m.'s reaction to this.

[RoguishGurl]

He also might be the one to save the mutant race, we will see how the story ends.
Yeah. Cyclops believes what he is doing is going to help save the mutant race. I may not agree with him and I may be mad at him, but I understand WHY he's doing it. He is in very difficult situation and is havinghard decisions being thrust upon him. So I won't begin to hate him until I see the end result.

[Optic Rage!]

That's because he's stealing Sage's personality.

But wait, he actually has a personality.

[darknessatnoon]

But wait, he actually has a personality.

Show me where.

[RoguishGurl]

......you know what? that's actually really true. no wonder he resonates so well in this book.

someone needs to get brian m.'s reaction to this.
I'm sure some bad words would be used.

[protogarrett]

Ack! I shouldn't have opened this....at work and now gotta wait 4 more hours before I can go grab my issue!!!! How will I survive???:confused:

Bitch, please, I have to wait 3-4 weeks. =P

[Optic Rage!]

cyclops is so extreme. i love him in x-force.

i'm just going to pretend this is the only x-men book that exists from now on.

I think all the other books should be fucked out the door and we should get X-Force 3 times a month!

[AcesX1X]

so what's up with surge being so fat? you think she was pregnant?

[darknessatnoon]

so what's up with surge being so fat? you think she was pregnant?

2 bowls of rice every night. The carbs.

[CyclopsFan6894]

The good news we get Messiah War #1 next week so we get the follow up to this right away.

[Optic Rage!]

Yeah. Cyclops believes what he is doing is going to help save the mutant race. I may not agree with him and I may be mad at him, but I understand WHY he's doing it. He is in very difficult situation and is havinghard decisions being thrust upon him. So I won't begin to hate him until I see the end result.

Right, if he's wrong. I will be the first to hold my hands up.

I don't see anyone else trying to save mutantkind.

[darknessatnoon]

Right, if he's wrong. I will be the first to hold my hands up.

I don't see anyone else trying to save mutantkind.

Hello? Lord Magneto will save mutantdom. Just as soon as he gets back from his site-seeing trip in Outer Space.

[AcesX1X]

The good news we get Messiah War #1 next week so we get the follow up to this right away.

if i could get follow-up on x-force every wednesday, that would be great.

[lockerogue]

I'm hoping Boom Boom is saved and joins X-Force. ZOMG I just blew up that purifier things head.

[CyclopsFan6894]

Right, if he's wrong. I will be the first to hold my hands up.

I don't see anyone else trying to save mutantkind.

At this point, I'm not sure if I even care if he's right, I'm on for the journey, let it be a well written journey and the end point for me is inconsequential. If he's right, that's great, if he's wrong, that's fine, the journey has been one hell of a ride for my favorite character.

[darknessatnoon]

I'm hoping Boom Boom is saved and joins X-Force. ZOMG I just blew up that purifier things head.

They shot her in the head. She doesn't keep any organs there that she relies on day to day.

[AcesX1X]

I'm hoping Boom Boom is saved and joins X-Force. ZOMG I just blew up that purifier things head.

wouldn't that be amazing? that would just make this comic worth 10 dollars an issue instead of 3.

[Anna]

So how freaked is Laura that Scott prevented her from saving Julian?

[Optic Rage!]

Hello? Lord Magneto will save mutantdom. Just as soon as he gets back from his site-seeing trip in Outer Space.

PHFT.

I bet the Lord will be on his hands & knees begging the King & Queen to let him help any second now.

[Optic Rage!]

So how freaked is Laura that Scott prevented her from saving Julian?

Laura won't bite the hand that feeds her.

[AcesX1X]

So how freaked is Laura that Scott prevented her from saving Julian?

she just looked confused to me. i don't think she knows WTF happened yet.

[Optic Rage!]

At this point, I'm not sure if I even care if he's right, I'm on for the journey, let it be a well written journey and the end point for me is inconsequential. If he's right, that's great, if he's wrong, that's fine, the journey has been one hell of a ride for my favorite character.

Yeah, your right. His current story arc is the best any x-man has got in a long time.

Uncanny needs to be given to K&Y!

[protogarrett]

So... Boom Boom is dead and Julian and Surge are just left to blow up the UN? That does not sound wise.

[RoguishGurl]

So how freaked is Laura that Scott prevented her from saving Julian?
Laura will not freak out. She sees Scott as the one who provides the orders and she will do what it takes to complete the missions that he gives her. Sure, she might be confused and hurt. But she will not break down and become unfunctionable. She will just focus on finding the baby and Cable.

[AcesX1X]

At this point, I'm not sure if I even care if he's right, I'm on for the journey, let it be a well written journey and the end point for me is inconsequential. If he's right, that's great, if he's wrong, that's fine, the journey has been one hell of a ride for my favorite character.

see? it's all about delivery.


So... Boom Boom is dead and Julian and Surge are just left to blow up the UN? That does not sound wise.

don't start cussing up in here. boom boom is shot in the head and julian and surge are in the UN about to blow up.

[Optic Rage!]

So... Boom Boom is dead and Julian and Surge are just left to blow up the UN? That does not sound wise.

Death to Hellion & Surge? this is like Solomon levels of wise.

[darknessatnoon]

So... Boom Boom is dead and Julian and Surge are just left to blow up the UN? That does not sound wise.

Cyclops can send the X-Men to the UN. But who cares about the UN, anyway? Does the Marvel U UN actually do stuff?

[Optic Rage!]

Cyclops can send the X-Men to the UN. But who cares about the UN, anyway? Does the Marvel U UN actually do stuff?

They might do, this is fiction afterall.

[AcesX1X]

Cyclops can send the X-Men to the UN. But who cares about the UN, anyway? Does the Marvel U UN actually do stuff?

tony stark got drunk as hell and started cussing at some people from the UAE once.

[Novaya Havoc]

Cyclops can send the X-Men to the UN. But who cares about the UN, anyway? Does the Marvel U UN actually do stuff?

Dazzler was kidnapped by Doom at the UN in Dazzler #3-#4. The Jewels of Doom were on loan from Latveria at the time.

The UN is relevant.

And what X-Men will Cyclops send? Emma Frost, Colossus, and Beast? I don't think additional X-Men are available.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Cyclops can send the X-Men to the UN. But who cares about the UN, anyway? Does the Marvel U UN actually do stuff?

In comics, sure. They throw around diplomatic immunity with ease, create new countries on a whim and even have a standing army.

[Grunty]

Okay i'm going to read the issue before i belive anyone to be dead.

However if Tabitha really died because they have to check on the Messiah complex kid then i actualy going to switch from pitty her to dislike her.

I mean i already only felt pitty for her because she is more of a macguffin or simply a plot device than a character, so i'm pretty sure she will be in limbo in a few years, because she is totaly hyped.
Everything feels overly important about her.

I can do the math over and over, but saving one mutant while letting three others and around a few hundred normal people die, is no logical solution.

Well like i said, i won't belive it until i saw it with my own eyes, because it would not fit to kill Boom Boom now, since Marvel is soon going to release a special single story book in which Tabitha will appear in. Also she only recently got a whole chapter in manifest destiny about her.
So why kill her now, when people actualy know that she is around again?

Oh i forgot to say again that the X-men are horrible at keeping track on their comrades.

In the end i wonder if there could be anyone else besides X-force to help Surge and Hellion?

Why would X-force be the only group or people to actualy search for the source of these suicide bombings or trying to stop the Leper Queen?

[Seres]

Why do they need both Surge and Hellion in the same location, because wouldn't Hellion be enough to destroy the building? Why don't they send Surge back to the insititute and blow her up there?

Bastion is getting sloppy.

[Novaya Havoc]

She's DEAD! D-E-A-D! I think the more likely scenario is that X-Force returns from the future before Tabby dies, and then whatever occurs in their absence is undone.

[AcesX1X]

Okay i'm going to read the issue before i belive anyone to be dead.

However if Tabitha really died because they have to check on the Messiah complex kid then i actualy going to switch from pitty her to dislike her.

I mean i already only felt pitty for her because she is more of a macguffin or simply a plot device than a character, so i'm pretty sure she will be in limbo in a few years, because she is totaly hyped.
Everything feels overly important about her.

I can do the math over and over, but saving one mutant while letting three others and around a few hundred normal people die, is no logical solution.

Well like i said, i won't belive it until i saw it with my own eyes, because it would not fit to kill Boom Boom now, since Marvel is soon going to release a special single story book in which Tabitha will appear in. Also she only recently got a whole chapter in manifest destiny about her.
So why kill her now, when people actualy know that she is around again?

Oh i forgot to say again that the X-men are horrible at keeping track on their comrades.

In the end i wonder if there could be anyone else besides X-force to help Surge and Hellion?

Why would X-force be the only group or people to actualy search for the source of these suicide bombings or trying to stop the Leper Queen?

look, i like boom boom too, but you're sounding like a crazy person here.

[Optic Rage!]

Dazzler was kidnapped by Doom at the UN in Dazzler #3-#4. The Jewels of Doom were on loan from Latveria at the time.

The UN is relevant.

And what X-Men will Cyclops send? Emma Frost, Colossus, and Beast? I don't think additional X-Men are available.

I suppose he should send Dazzler, that way we might get what we want!

[Seres]

She's DEAD! D-E-A-D! I think the more likely scenario is that X-Force returns from the future before Tabby dies, and then whatever occurs in their absence is undone.

I wish I could believe that, but I simply can't suspend my disbelief that Beast's time devices will work properly.

[CyclopsFan6894]

SHIELD/HAMMER is on the way to the UN and also it should be noted that Cyclops does say he'll take care of the kids, it comes across as him saying he'll send other X-Men to try and stop them.

As for the X-Men keeping track of their own, these individuals are free, they have the opportunity to take Cyclops up on his offer to come to San Fran. Neither Hellion or Surge took him up on that offer. It is not the X-Men's fault that Hellion and Surge got caught.

[Novaya Havoc]

I suppose he should send Dazzler, that way we might get what we want!

He will not send Dazzler. She is pre-occupied with grocery shopping for Pixie's cereal and entertaining the Russian sex slaves.

[Optic Rage!]

He will not send Dazzler. She is pre-occupied with grocery shopping for Pixie's cereal and entertaining the Russian sex slaves.

Damn, i was trying to burn Dazzler, as in Surge & Hellion exploding being what we want.

[lockerogue]

I wonder how she got Boom Boom. Wasn't she living at the SF base thing?

[Novaya Havoc]

Damn, i was trying to burn Dazzler, as in Surge & Hellion exploding being what we want.

I don't understand this sentence. Are you ESL?

[Peter F.]

As for the X-Men keeping track of their own, these individuals are free, they have the opportunity to take Cyclops up on his offer to come to San Fran. Neither Hellion or Surge took him up on that offer. It is not the X-Men's fault that Hellion and Surge got caught.

Hellion was in San Francisco when he got kidnapped.

Surge was in her New Mutants Squad costume, you noticed the big X right? And she had cameos in the Secret Invasion: X-men mini where she was fighting alongside them. She has rejoined the X-men.

So they both took Cyclops up on his offer of safety in San Francisco. But they still got kidnapped in his own backyard.

[Seres]

Will this spur a five-issue arc of Uncanny where Cannonball mopes around and tries to get a tattoo?

DAMMIT I need a place to discuss all my incredulous and annoying Tabby-related thoughts. Creating a thread around her would be a spoiler though, and Peter David will cut me.

:frown:

[CyberHubbs]

Sounds like a fantastic issue. T-Minus two hours until I have a copy in hand.

[darknessatnoon]

Hellion was in San Francisco when he got kidnapped.

Surge was in her New Mutants Squad costume, you noticed the big X right? And she had cameos in the Secret Invasion: X-men mini where she was fighting alongside them. She has rejoined the X-men.

So they both took Cyclops up on his offer of safety in San Francisco. But they still got kidnapped in his own backyard.

Maybe he should keep them locked up in their rooms. Would you prefer that?

[AcesX1X]

I wonder how she got Boom Boom. Wasn't she living at the SF base thing?

leper queen was hiding at the starbucks down the street.

[Novaya Havoc]

Maybe he should keep them locked up in their rooms. Would you prefer that?

They can join the ranks of fabulous bunk-mates, such as Storm and Dazzler, or Anole and Karma! Pillow fight!


In OTHER news, I enjoyed Tabby's extensions and smokin' red hot outfit.

[lockerogue]

So I figured that Tabby was kidnapped when the Russian hoes were escorted into the base.

[CyclopsFan6894]

Hellion was in San Francisco when he got kidnapped.

Surge was in her New Mutants Squad costume, you noticed the big X right? And she had cameos in the Secret Invasion: X-men mini where she was fighting alongside them. She has rejoined the X-men.

So they both took Cyclops up on his offer of safety in San Francisco. But they still got kidnapped in his own backyard.

I forgot about Surge being in San Fran. I did notice her in the uniform, I read the issue.

As for Hellion being kidnapped in San Fran, it's a big city and a lot of the X-Men are off dealing with a lot of things, can't be everywhere at once. Being taken in San Fran and being taken outside the Mansion are two different things.

[lockerogue]

leper queen was hiding at the starbucks down the street.

Sounds plausible.

[Optic Rage!]

Maybe he should keep them locked up in their rooms. Would you prefer that?

I'd like to be locked up in a room with Hellion.

[darknessatnoon]

I'd like to be locked up in a room with Hellion.

Computerized art can make anyone look good. In reality, he's a pimply faced teen who never washes his butt.

[AcesX1X]

hellion's got too much mouth to be ugly.

[Optic Rage!]

Computerized art can make anyone look good. In reality, he's a pimply faced teen who never washes his butt.

Just your type then?

[darknessatnoon]

Just your type then?

I'd prefer the Leper Queen.

[Grunty]

look, i like boom boom too, but you're sounding like a crazy person here.

Why do i sound like a crazy person?
To tell the truth i'm not even a Boom Boom fan, i just like her when she appears somewhere but i don't wish her into any comics.

Okay maybe saying that i activly dislike the MC girl, but just get mildly annoyed by how important she is implied to be, while i guess how she will end up in a few years.
Since what she was created as and will become doesn't look like a character, but like i said a plot point.

If this wasn't what you meant please tell me.

By the way for some reason my PC always switches my login off after 5 minutes, which makes me constantly under the pressur to write as fast as possible, sometimes with the result of my comment being confusing.
Sorry about that.

[jester1436]

Computerized art can make anyone look good. In reality, he's a pimply faced teen who never washes his butt.

Sorry, but he is the school hottie.

Not that he'd have to do much maintenance to outdo a guido made of rocks, a lizard boy or a guy with a flaming head.

[darknessatnoon]

Why do i sound like a crazy person?
To tell the truth i'm not even a Boom Boom fan, i just like her when she appears somewhere but i don't wish her into any comics.

Okay maybe saying that i activly dislike the MC girl, but just get mildly annoyed by how important she is implied to be, while i guess how she will end up in a few years.
Since what she was created as and will become doesn't look like a character, but like i said a plot point.

If this wasn't what you meant please tell me.

By the way for some reason my PC always switches my login off after 5 minutes, which makes me constantly under the pressur to write as fast as possible, sometimes with the result of my comment being confusing.
Sorry about that.

Don't worry about it. He's just being a little bitch. I think the Messiah Baby is a plot point for Cyclops (she has only strategic value for him), whereas she's an actual person to Cable. I foresee conflict there.

[CaptainCanada]

I was wondering, will X-Force return to the same moment in time that they departed? There'd be no reason why they couldn't. If they did that, they could still save her.

[darknessatnoon]

Sorry, but he is the school hottie.

Not that he'd have to do much maintenance to outdo a guido made of rocks, a lizard boy or a guy with a flaming head.

He'll never turn my head while Iceman and Cannonballs are around.

[Novaya Havoc]

He'll never turn my head while Iceman and Cannonballs are around.

I'm more of a Thunderbird III guy.

[jester1436]

He'll never turn my head while Iceman and Cannonballs are around.

I do agree, he doesn't live up to either of these.

He's also not quite Sunspot.

[darknessatnoon]

I'm more of a Thunderbird III guy.

I like scruffy Cannonballs and dirty sex Iceman, but I'd kill for a cover of Ares and Cable wrestling, shirtless.

[AcesX1X]

LOL! did anyone see domino's comments to wolverine? "i want a future buzzer!" what in the world? and they're about to drop down and start killing people. she is psychotic, she has to be.

grunty, i hate that little messiah twerp too. i hope domino shoots that brat in the head.

[Optic Rage!]

H'mmmm

I think i'll take Choi's Logan....and his Emma.

[darknessatnoon]

I'm more of a Thunderbird III guy.

That pains me. Warpath, yes. Neal Sharra, NO.

[RoguishGurl]

LOL! did anyone see domino's comments to wolverine? "i want a future buzzer!" what in the world? and they're about to drop down and start killing people. she is psychotic, she has to be.

grunty, i hate that little messiah twerp too. i hope domino shoots that brat in the head.
I love Domino. I'm so glad she is in this book.

H'mmmm

I think i'll take Choi's Logan....and his Emma.
Choi Angel trumps them all.

[Justin K.]

I like scruffy Cannonballs and dirty sex Iceman, but I'd kill for a cover of Ares and Cable wrestling, shirtless.

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/p/puck2.jpg

[Optic Rage!]

I love Domino. I'm so glad she is in this book.


Choi Angel trumps them all.

Phft, to faggy looking.

[CMBMOOL]

I can understand just how desperate the situtation is for Cyclops and X-force, I mean either way which ever mission X-force is given....

In the end they'll still lose a member of the family and it will be their innocent blood on their hands because they couldn't rescue them in time. :frown:

[Novaya Havoc]

That pains me. Warpath, yes. Neal Sharra, NO.

He's hot. But I bet he's deficient in certain areas. I am basing this on personal experience.

[darknessatnoon]

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/p/puck2.jpg

You just ... deflated me.

[AcesX1X]

He's hot. But I bet he's deficient in certain areas. I am basing this on personal experience.

you must not be talking about warpath. everybody knows american indians got massive *****

[RoguishGurl]

Phft, to faggy looking.
More like Sexy, yes you can take me to your place and do whatever looking.

[Anna]

Sorry, but he is the school hottie.

Not that he'd have to do much maintenance to outdo a guido made of rocks, a lizard boy or a guy with a flaming head.

How about the cute redheaded guy with the angel wings and voice?

[Peter F.]

Phft, to faggy looking.

Wow that is incredibly offensive.

[Grunty]

Don't worry about it. He's just being a little bitch. I think the Messiah Baby is a plot point for Cyclops (she has only strategic value for him), whereas she's an actual person to Cable. I foresee conflict there.

Intresting to use my plot device comment on the characters. Since this reminded me how in interviews it was said that Cable would be less than happy to see X-force.
Your comment now makes me wonder how he will react to Cyclops decession to sacrefice those mutants and humans to get X-force into that time?

On another note. Why didn't Cyclops told X-force to take "Cure" samples with them?
If they knew that the Leper Queen could let the powers of mutants go into an overdrive to make bombs out of them, wouldn't it be smart to have the "Cure" around? Especialy with Dominos hitting abilities?

Sure they would lose their powers, but at least they would still be alive and the people around them too. One well placed shot and the Legacy Virus had nothing to push into an overdrive anymore.

That pains me. Warpath, yes. Neal Sharra, NO.

Now that's a bit mean of you. I mean if you can tollerate Marrow fans like me can't you also tollerate Neal Sharra fans like him?

[CMBMOOL]

Yeah. Cyclops believes what he is doing is going to help save the mutant race. I may not agree with him and I may be mad at him, but I understand WHY he's doing it. He is in very difficult situation and is havinghard decisions being thrust upon him. So I won't begin to hate him until I see the end result.
Well it may just be Steve Rogers or the Bus of kids exploding all over again for Cyclops.

Because he couldn't act in time. :frown:

[Novaya Havoc]

you must not be talking about warpath. everybody knows american indians got massive *****

I was referring to Thunderbird III.

[CyclopsFan6894]

Intresting to use my plot device comment on the characters. Since this reminded me how in interviews it was said that Cable would be less than happy to see X-force.
Your comment now makes me wonder how he will react to Cyclops decession to sacrefice those mutants and humans to get X-force into that time?

On another note. Why didn't Cyclops told X-force to take "Cure" samples with them?
If they knew that the Leper Queen could let the powers of mutants go into an overdrive to make bombs out of them, wouldn't it be smart to have the "Cure" around? Especialy with Dominos hitting abilities?

Sure they would lose their powers, but at least they would still be alive and the people around them too. One well placed shot and the Legacy Virus had nothing to push into an overdrive anymore.

I think it was said these were different strains. Like with Flu, one Flu Vaccine won't cure all strains, only one specific one.

[protogarrett]

I'd like to be locked up in a room with Hellion.

Get in line, sister.

[darknessatnoon]

I think it was said these were different strains. Like with Flu, one Flu Vaccine won't cure all strains, only one specific one.

I am sure Hope can cure the Legacy Virus just by looking at it.

[CMBMOOL]

Wow. Just... wow. Scott Summers is the biggest toolbox ever.

I loved how angry Wolverine was about Scott's priorities. I loved that Beast refused to hit the button. Beast needs to stand up for himself. They've played at it a lot in X-Force, and now in Uncanny but I'd love to see him take a stand on something instead of caving in out of respect and friendship.

Has Scott gone crazy? The death toll for this kid is getting pretty high. If this does indeed doom Hellion and Surge to death, that will be four X-Men sacrificed for this girl, who is already being looked after by Cable. Well, chances are we won't figure out what the repercussions of this are until the end of Messiah War.

This is a worse call than any of the questionable decisions Xavier made.
Well said indeed.

[CyclopsFan6894]

I don't see how this is worse than anything Xavier has done, Xavier has done far, far worse.

[RoguishGurl]

Well it may just be Steve Rogers or the Bus of kids exploding all over again for Cyclops.

Because he couldn't act in time. :frown:
The thing is he COULD have done something about it this time. He could have let X-Force save the others, or just try to save them. But he made the choice to send them after Cable instead. I'm not hating on Scott and I'm sure the decision was very difficult. But still, the choice was there. Hopefully it was the right choice.

[CMBMOOL]

the feelin im gettin from this is cable might come back to the present to "have words" with scott bout his bullshit decisions, iand i cant wait for the cyclops bitch slap club to re-open lol..
Same here. I just love a good smack down. :biggrin:

Let see Scott get out of this one. :evilsmile:

[AcesX1X]

The thing is he COULD have done something about it this time. He could have let X-Force save the others, or just try to save them. But he made the choice to send them after Cable instead. I'm not hating on Scott and I'm sure the decision was very difficult. But still, the choice was there. Hopefully it was the right choice.

cyclops has gone nuts just like everybody else. dust was standing right there. she could have sandblasted leper queen or something and saved everbody. the cuckoos could have wiped her memory after.

[CMBMOOL]

ya know, at first i was thinking that once Scott and Emma's actions came to light, Emma would be the one who was more villified, but now I think it will be Scott. i would love to see a storyline where the X-Men force him out as leader and tell him to leave, and Emma will have to choose between him and the taking care of what's left of the mutants.
Now that would be good laugh.

Payback's a pain when it's happening to you.

[passenger]

Those time devices are set to bring back their users after a set amount of time,to the exact point and time of origin.Between that and Domino's talent to have things fall her way,Boom Boom is safe.And the UN bombing seems connected with the whole Messiah War,so even if it happens,it will be undone too through X-Force's timetwinking,so there is hope for Surge and Julian yet.

That said,I am getting irritated by the whole "Messiah child" premise.Ok,her life is at risk by mutant hating idiots,immortal gene manipulators and a former mutant cop with a nervous breakdown.Yes,she is,still,innocent of whatever Bishop blames her for and she must be protected.Beyond that though,her being treated as mutantkind's saviour feels more and more wrong.We have Cyclops deeming three of his own people expendable for the kid's sake.None of them are a part of this struggle presently,Boom Boom probably knows almost nothing about her,and yet she is left to die because Hope is oh so important.And for all we know,Hope may end up damning mutants in the end,proving Bishop right.All this trouble,yet noone asked her if she wants to be the messiah of anybody.Cable was the epicenter of similar expectations,and the result was Stryfe and the Legacy Virus.

She is the proof that the mutants can still be born (though her birth makes her more like a "killcrop" mutant,like Jamie ).Her life is at risk,so she needs protection.But the way the X-Men handle things,they will end up fulfilling the worst possible prophecy for this kid.

[Seres]

I don't see how this is worse than anything Xavier has done, Xavier has done far, far worse.

People prefer Boom Boom to Danger.

However, I also blame Xavier for this catastrophe.
And Beast, for inventing these shoddy time devices.
And Jean Grey, for being reborn and causing all this in the first place.

[AcesX1X]

LOL i bet boom boom would throw a timebomb at hope if it was between her and that kid.

[lockerogue]

LOL i bet boom boom would throw a timebomb at hope if it was between her and that kid.

I said little red head girl go BOOM!

[darknessatnoon]

People prefer Boom Boom to Danger.


People also voted for Obama.

[Optic Rage!]

Same here. I just love a good smack down.

Let see Scott get out of this one.

Yeah, Not gonna happen.

Also, stop abusing smileys.

[Shyft]

Heel Persona:
One could make the point if one were not a total mark that is, that if Cyke kept (all) his team in the know, that Boom Boom (Meltdown) could be saved and that the other teammates could rush in and help out Surge and Hellion. I mean there are like 20 X-men in Sanfran now..
But Marks can't get past that point and have discussion. They want to throw verbal fisticuffs.

Criticism of the book is fine. but how would you combine the fact that most of the X-Men would be appalled by a wet-works team, with them being eager to work along side it?

[Optic Rage!]

Criticism of the book is fine. but how would you combine the fact that most of the X-Men would be appalled by a wet-works team, with them being eager to work along side it?

Most of the X-Men? Or just Beast.

[jester1436]

How about the cute redheaded guy with the angel wings and voice?

If necrophilia is your sort of thing, sure.

[Home made ectoplasm]

Phft, to faggy looking.

Wow that is incredibly offensive.

I know. Optic, in this context you should have spelt "to" as "too"

[Shyft]

Most of the X-Men? Or just Beast.

Nuh uh! Nightcrawler too! :P

[AcesX1X]

look, nobody cares that the x-men might have a problem with it. that's why it's a secret in the first place.

[Optic Rage!]

I know. Optic, in this context you should have spelt "to" as "too"

Are you going to punish me?

[Shyft]

look, nobody cares that the x-men might have a problem with it. that's why it's a secret in the first place.

Actually we were debating whether it is "silly" for the other X-Men not to be involved in the rescue of BoomBoom. a previous poster said it was, and i said it wasnt, because the other X-Men would object to X-force, and therefore wouldnt be willing to help in its missions. probably.

[pharoahe22]

X-force is the Bee's Knees. That's all I have to say lol. Seriously though, I wouldn't worry about Boom-Boom, especially when time travel is involved, and I know Warren Ellis probably wants to do another Nextwave book.

[darknessatnoon]

Actually we were debating whether it is "silly" for the other X-Men not to be involved in the rescue of BoomBoom. a previous poster said it was, and i said it wasnt, because the other X-Men would object to X-force, and therefore wouldnt be willing to help in its missions. probably.

You're so thilly, Shyft!

[Shyft]

You're so thilly, Shyft!

cute listhp.

[AcesX1X]

and LOL what was rahne even doing with that creature? sleeping on the job? she's too busy getting freaky with some furry while her friend is being shot in the head.

[darknessatnoon]

and LOL what was rahne even doing with that creature? sleeping on the job? she's too busy getting freaky with some furry while her friend is being shot in the head.

It's probably Mystique, screwing with her.

[Seres]

People also voted for Obama.

I wish Boom Boom was President of America and Obama was needlessly dead at the hands of The Leper Queen too, DN@N. When will they listen to our pleas?

[darknessatnoon]

I wish Boom Boom was President of America and Obama was needlessly dead at the hands of The Leper Queen too, DN@N. When will they listen to our pleas?

timbox is the only one of us getting X-Force fan service these days.

[Swashbuckler]

and LOL what was rahne even doing with that creature? sleeping on the job? she's too busy getting freaky with some furry while her friend is being shot in the head.

Wolfsbane knew in advance her help would be needed or Boom Boom would die. Boom Boom was always mean to her when they were in the New Mutants together. Boom Boom was also mean to Feral and called her "gross". I think Boom Boom deserved to die.

[ExodusCloak]

Too bad Hepzibah is not a mutant...otherwise it would have been her in that chair.

[darknessatnoon]

Wolfsbane knew in advance her help would be needed or Boom Boom would die. Boom Boom was always mean to her when they were in the New Mutants together. Boom Boom was also mean to Feral and called her "gross". I think Boom Boom deserved to die.

It's true. Boom Boom always treated Rahne like crap. Another point in Tabby's favor.

[Seres]

timbox is the only one of us getting X-Force fan service these days.

That's because timbox provides service to the writers. Can it really be coincidence that PAD brings timbox's favourite character into his book at the same time Surge turns up in X-Force and Armor appears in Uncanny?

If we have a scene next month where X-23 starts cutting herself whilst looking through the fourth wall to the reader and saying "do you like that?" I'm going to have timbox reported.

[Swashbuckler]

Since Wolfsbane is into eating people perhaps she'll make a cameo in Ultimatum. That book has all of it's charcters getting eaten by each other.

Back to the issue though, I wonder if Leper Queen will steal Tabby's outfit for herself.

[darknessatnoon]

That's because timbox provides service to the writers. Can it really be coincidence that PAD brings timbox's favourite character into his book at the same time Surge turns up in X-Force and Armor appears in Uncanny?

If we have a scene next month where X-23 starts cutting herself whilst looking through the fourth wall to the reader and saying "do you like that?" I'm going to have timbox reported.

Surge didn't just turn up. She turned up high, completely strung out with a syringe next to her.

[Swashbuckler]

That's because timbox provides service to the writers. Can it really be coincidence that PAD brings timbox's favourite character into his book at the same time Surge turns up in X-Force and Armor appears in Uncanny?

If we have a scene next month where X-23 starts cutting herself whilst looking through the fourth wall to the reader and saying "do you like that?" I'm going to have timbox reported.

Stop being jealous. It's unappealing.

[Home made ectoplasm]

timbox is the only one of us getting X-Force fan service these days.

I got fanservice when they put Wolfsbane in my home team's football shirt <3

[Seres]

Surge didn't just turn up. She turned up high, completely strung out with a syringe next to her.

No change there for her, then.

Stop being jealous. It's unappealing.

All I ever got for my rampant servicing was Claudine.

[Swashbuckler]

Why has no one made a dead Boom Boom avatar for themselves?

[Optic Rage!]

I got fanservice when they put Wolfsbane in my home team's football shirt <3

I don't recall seeing her in a Celtic shirt?

[Seres]

Why has no one made a dead Boom Boom avatar for themselves?

Fear of Josef.

[AcesX1X]

swashbuckler, what are you even talking about? boom boom and rahne are friends. did you not read x-cutioner song? they paused in the middle of tearing each other apart to hug each other and compliment on hairstyles.

[Hi-Fi]

This was a fantastic issue if Boom-Boom is not really dead (c'mon, they gotta return to the exact same moment they left, right?).

This was a WTF NO YOU FUCKING DIDN'T issue if she is.

Either way, Cyclops is an a$$hole. He pratically shot Tabby in the head himself. LOL.

[darknessatnoon]

This was a fantastic issue if Boom-Boom is not really dead (c'mon, they gotta return to the exact same moment they left, right?).

This was a WTF NO YOU FUCKING DIDN'T issue if she is.

Either way, Cyclops is an a$$hole. He pratically shot Tabby in the head himself. LOL.

Do you think Rogue would have made a different decision?

[AcesX1X]

Either way, Cyclops is an a$$hole. He pratically shot Tabby in the head himself. LOL.

i know, hi-fi. she's practically his kid, right? didn't he adopt her anyway? LOL he has officially lost his mind.

[Swashbuckler]

swashbuckler, what are you even talking about? boom boom and rahne are friends. did you not read x-cutioner song? they paused in the middle of tearing each other apart to hug each other and compliment on hairstyles.

Don't kid yourself. Boom-Boom was a fur-aphobe. She hates Beast too I'm sure (but who doesn't these days). She deserved death by the Leper Queen and I hope LQ scalps her and attaches her hair to her hockey mask.

[ExodusCloak]

I'm surprised that there is not a Kingbreaker #4 thread already you'd think stuff like that would have broken this forum into two by now....hmmm...very strange.

[Optic Rage!]

Odd, it seems nobody has even bothered to create a review thread for Legacy yet. And it's not even an Xavier book anymore.

[Home made ectoplasm]

I don't recall seeing her in a Celtic shirt?

Sorry Andy, I cannot be football trolled.

[darknessatnoon]

I'm surprised that there is not a Kingbreaker #4 thread already you'd think stuff like that would have broken this forum into two by now....hmmm...very strange.

The issue was delayed. One more week till Rachel dies.

[Home made ectoplasm]

I'm surprised that there is not a Kingbreaker #4 thread already you'd think stuff like that would have broken this forum into two by now....hmmm...very strange.

Isn't that next week?

[Swashbuckler]

I'm surprised that there is not a Kingbreaker #4 thread already you'd think stuff like that would have broken this forum into two by now....hmmm...very strange.

It's delayed till next week. Boom Boom's death was supposed to crack the boards today, but no one really cares about her. Just look at how few friends she has on FaceSpace!

[timbox]

Surge didn't just turn up. She turned up high, completely strung out with a syringe next to her.

Wasn't it amazing?

I'm going back to the comic shop to buy out the rest of their X-Force issues.

[Hi-Fi]

Odd, it seems nobody has even bothered to create a review thread for Legacy yet. And it's not even an Xavier book anymore.
We Legacy fans discuss the issues privately over coffee. We're not animals.

[Home made ectoplasm]

It's delayed till next week. Boom Boom's death was supposed to crack the boards today, but no one really cares about her. Just look at how few friends she has on FaceSpace!

I think what is meant to crack the boards is Cyclops potentially sacrificing Nori and Julian, and whatever is happening in X Factor which I haven't read yet and the last page of Uncanny.

[Swashbuckler]

I think what is meant to crack the boards is Cyclops potentially sacrificing Nori and Julian, and whatever is happening in X Factor which I haven't read yet and the last page of Uncanny.

I don't see any Magneto threads blowing up, so they must not have received their shipments of Uncanny at the insane asylum.

[AcesX1X]

It's delayed till next week. Boom Boom's death was supposed to crack the boards today, but no one really cares about her. Just look at how few friends she has on FaceSpace!

edit your statements, swashbuckler, for they are completely false.

[darknessatnoon]

I think what is meant to crack the boards is Cyclops potentially sacrificing Nori and Julian, and whatever is happening in X Factor which I haven't read yet and the last page of Uncanny.

I can't even remember the last page of Uncanny anymore.

And Hi-Fi is right. There's a special Finer Things thread not open to the rest of you where we discuss Legacy.

[ExodusCloak]

The issue was delayed. One more week till Rachel dies.

Hmm...strange. Was looking at the marvel.com boards and came across a user who apparently read it. Thought it was already out since the spoiler given correlates with Rachel's pink energy signature in War of the Kings #1. Oh well...at least I know I can take that with a grain of salt.

[Hi-Fi]

Boom Boom rocks and Kyle and Yost are well aware of it. She won't be dead for long. They wouldn't waste a death by repeating what we came to know as The Icarus.

[AcesX1X]

Hmm...strange. Was looking at the marvel.com boards and came across a user who apparently read it. Thought it was already out since the spoiler given correlates with Rachel's pink energy signature in War of the Kings #1.

....i don't get it. spoil me in private since i don't really care about that book.

[darknessatnoon]

Hmm...strange. Was looking at the marvel.com boards and came across a user who apparently read it. Thought it was already out since the spoiler given correlates with Rachel's pink energy signature in War of the Kings #1.

I can understand why you think that's Rachel in WOK, but this isn't the place to discuss it. And someone is giving out false spoilers about Rachel surviving Kingbreaker.

[Swashbuckler]

edit your statements, swashbuckler, for they are completely false.

I will not edit them. You no longer control my heart Aces, you dumped me, remember!

X-Force needs more Hepzibah yelling at phones. Other then that, the book is perfect. Does anyone think Cyclops will get Domino a future tracker device like she requested?

[Hi-Fi]

Domino totally lost her cool when she saw Tabby. <3

[Seres]

Boom Boom has at least three friends!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/229/79810-6935-x-force_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33806/731735-boom_boom_008a_super.jpg

[AN0LE]

X-Force needs more Hepzibah yelling at phones.

100% agreed!

[Swashbuckler]

Feral is NOT Tabby's friend.

[timbox]

Seres(B)? We need to discuss this.

[ExodusCloak]

I can understand why you think that's Rachel in WOK, but this isn't the place to discuss it. And someone is giving out false spoilers about Rachel surviving Kingbreaker.

Coolio, the issue strangely got reviewed by comics bulletin though.

But you're right back on topic. Here's another review of X-Force #13.

http://www.comicsbulletin.com/reviews/12373002971990.htm

[Swashbuckler]

Seres(B)? We need to discuss this.

timbox, I know you agree that Feral hates Boom Boom. Don't play to Seres delusions!

[Seres]

Feral is NOT Tabby's friend.

I have pictures. That suggest otherwise.

I also have pictures that agree with you!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29735/691899-meltdown14.jpg

They're both arguing in heaven now :frown:

[AcesX1X]

invisible woman is not boom boom's friend either.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33806/731736-boom_boom_005b_super.jpg

[Anna]

If necrophilia is your sort of thing, sure.


Josh (or Jay:rolleyes:) was still breathing when Julian was playing Big Man On Campus.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Boom Boom has at least three friends!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/229/79810-6935-x-force_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33806/731735-boom_boom_008a_super.jpg

Consider her death retroactive punishment for those red ankle boots. Tres FUG.

[The Black Guardian]

Don't poop your pants over this. The story is not over, and Cyclops has plenty of reason to believe the baby is important. I think the converging interests of Sinister, the Purifiers, Bishop, Mystique, Cable and Exodus all suggest she's not just some unimportant kid.
These are all groups and people that express interest in really unimportant things quite often. So, nope. So far, the only reason Hope is important is because other people think she might be.

[ExodusCloak]

These are all groups and people that express interest in really unimportant things quite often. So, nope. So far, the only reason Hope is important is because other people think she might be.

And she's the only mutant born since M-Day that has to have some significance whether or not she'll murder a million humans is moot. The point is the key to undoing M-day is in her DNA or whatever because in both Bishop and Cables future there still are new mutants.

[darknessatnoon]

These are all groups and people that express interest in really unimportant things quite often.

Such as Magneto?

[AcesX1X]

look, i think we need to get back to the real topic here, and that is boom boom.

[Seres]

look, i think we need to get back to the real topic here, and that is boom boom.

Yes, please. I will be quiet and everything.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33806/731733-boom_boom_007a_super.jpg

[Trississ]

Wow... That ranks as one of the best (or worst depending on you perspective) cliffhangers I read in a long time. Amazing (and FRUSTRATING!)

I suspect that X-Force will return at the same moment they left, so Boom Boom is probably safe. I fear Hellion and Surge are toast however. More fuel for the dark fires burning in Laura's heart. She's on a path to the dark side folks. Archangel may join her.

[RoguishGurl]

Does no one care about Wolfsbane? I think I'm the only one interested in what happens to her. :frown:

[AcesX1X]

Does no one care about Wolfsbane? I think I'm the only one interested in what happens to her. :frown:

we were just talking about wolfsbane. LOL she is fine. she just got bedded while her friend got shot in the head.

[Home made ectoplasm]

Does no one care about Wolfsbane? I think I'm the only one interested in what happens to her. :frown:

I care 10101

[lockerogue]

I care about Rahne. I'm glad she's seems to be getting a little happier.

[worstblogever]

we were just talking about wolfsbane. LOL she is fine. she just got bedded while her friend got shot in the head.

Both got shot in the face with something, in any event.

[Beast]

At least Boom Boom and Rusty can finally be together again. Now.... where's Skids?

[AcesX1X]

At least Boom Boom and Rusty can finally be together again. Now.... where's Skids?

skids can't get shot.

[darknessatnoon]

I think Rahne should stop making out with the woman who killed her mummy.

[Seres]

At least Boom Boom and Rusty can finally be together again. Now.... where's Skids?

You shan't take Skids from me.

[Beast]

skids can't get shot.
That's what Hellion thought. Until he got shot by the Purifiers in New X-Men.

[timbox]

Does no one care about Wolfsbane? I think I'm the only one interested in what happens to her. :frown:

It says a lot about Rahne that both her and Hrimhari can change human form at will, but they chose to be wolves during sex.

[AcesX1X]

That's what Hellion thought. Until he got shot by the Purifiers in New X-Men.

what do you mean? skids power doesn't turn off?

she really needs to change her name. i can't stand typing that.

[Beast]

what do you mean? skids power doesn't turn off?

she really needs to change her name. i can't stand typing that.
The Purifiers were using bullets that negated mutant powers when they assaulted the mansion.

They went right through Hellion's TK field. That's how he ended up getting shot.

[Home made ectoplasm]

I think Rahne should stop making out with the woman who killed her mummy.

It's a good match. They can both talk about what it was like killing her parents.

[Peter F.]

That's what Hellion thought. Until he got shot by the Purifiers in New X-Men.

How did they do that anyways? Vibranium bullets?

[AcesX1X]

The Purifiers were using bullets that negated mutant powers when they assaulted the mansion.

They went right through Hellion's TK field. That's how he ended up getting shot.

what? that sounds ludicrous. are these magic bullets?

[Beast]

How did they do that anyways? Vibranium bullets?
I think she said it was Nimrod tech. It's been a while since I read that one.

[Beast]

what? that sounds ludicrous. are these magic bullets?
It was Kyle and Yost. Ask them. Like I said, I think the chick in the issue said it was Nimrod Tech.

[Beast]

From the recent "Hellion must die" thread.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/b/b2/Hellionbullet2.jpg

[Seres]

Hellion has no place in this thread. Don't make me post my Wall Of Boom, Beast.

[AcesX1X]

LOL! that's an amazing photo. we're talking about boom boom, though. stop derailing.

[Beast]

Hellion has no place in this thread. Don't make me post my Wall Of Boom, Beast.
Sure he does. Both him and Surge are next on Kyle and Yost's school bus of death.

[Seres]

Sure he does. Both him and Surge are next on Kyle and Yost's school bus of death.

What are you talking about? This is the Boom Boom Memorial Thread.