Burn Notice

[ForeverTaskmaster]

Did I miss something? There used to be a Burn Notice thread here.
What an awesome ending season 2 had. This was the most intense Burn Notice ep I have ever seen. If they can keep up the intensity found in this episode for the third season this show is gonna rock even more.

[Lord of Denial]

Other then Supernatural this is the best season finale in a couple years.

I loved when Sam was trying to convince Madeline how serious the situation was and she was having none of it until she offered Sam and free beer and he turned it down.

She was thinking " Oh my god, Sam Ax turned down a free beer and am so freaking dead!"

[Blueferret]

Scratch That

[2-4-5_Trioxin]

I just finished season 1, Ill probablly watch season 2 now because I actually liked it, and I hate just about everythine on tv hehe.

I just hope the whole "every episode he does good for someone" isnt in every episode, I mean its kind of cool but I could get burned out on it if thats all the show became.

I guess I like it because it draws on other sources I like. The show sort of takes some from The A-team, Macgyver, little dash of james bond and bruce campbell thrown in for good measure. And the comedy is actually good comedy, its not like gags and gimmicks and obvious jokes forced into the show. They all work well together and its nice to see bruce in something that he works well in, as much as I like him he has a very narrow window for which is just is perfect in his part. Aside from evil dead series and bubba hotep this has been the only thing he works well in.

[FanboyStranger]

I started watching Burn Notice a few weeks ago, and I have to say that I really like it. It's not best show on television or anything, but it is incredibly entertaining, balancing action and humor very well. And I've come to love the MacGuyver informational tidbits. At first, I found the voiceovers annoying, but during the season finale, when he mentioned that the best way to distract and frighten a vehicle in pursuit is to richochet bullets off the ground into the car's soft underbelly, I honestly thought "wow, that's actually good to know", even though there's no chance that situation would ever happen in my life. Or mixing the powder content of Christmas lights with non-dairy creamer to create an enormous fireball. (Or pretty much every move Michael made while trapped in the bank as a hostage a few episodes ago.)

Bruce Campbell really makes the show, though. I laugh at pretty much everything he says. (Sharon Gless is great as well.)

[StoneGold]

Well, it was definitely better than last season's finale. Which was bad, because of the total lack if integration of the A and B plots. Which I've actually had a problem with the show about, just in that Michael saving the world doesn't always jive with his getting his life back.

[Red Lotus]

It was sad that Victor (Michael Shanks) had to die. Next season should be good with all the thing from Michael's past come back to hunting him. I'm just glad that next season starts in about what 3 months.

[BYC]

I love this show.

After season 2, I don't know what the formula is going to be. I suppose they can follow the formula for a quarter of a season before the shit hits the fan, and people start looking for Michael. I always thought somebody must have been helping Michael a bit since there's no way doing all that he's done would have raised 0 attention from people who are connected. And that's not even spy agencies. Like when Michael and crew took down the car thieves played by Sticky Jones, even the quick lie to Jones' boss can only go so far. Somebody in organized crime would have gotten something on Michael and tried to do something. Now we know Carla' agency had a hand in defecting a few things here and there.

Season 3 can't get here soon enough.

[FanboyStranger]

I hope Jay Karnes' character comes back. He was definitely set up to be an intriguing nemesis for Michael, and even Michael conceded towards the end of the episode that he might eventually figure out that Michael and Sam (his ex-fiance, not the glorious Bruce Campbell) pulled a fast one on him.

It seems that Karnes' lot in life is to play utter pricks since The Shield ended.

[ForeverTaskmaster]

Yeah, well. Karnes needs to get rid of his Dutchboy image although Dutchboy became more awesome and more awesome during The Shield. I wouldn't even mind seeing a The Shield spin-off with Dutchboy.

[Cyke]

I love this show.

After season 2, I don't know what the formula is going to be. I suppose they can follow the formula for a quarter of a season before the shit hits the fan, and people start looking for Michael. I always thought somebody must have been helping Michael a bit since there's no way doing all that he's done would have raised 0 attention from people who are connected. And that's not even spy agencies. Like when Michael and crew took down the car thieves played by Sticky Jones, even the quick lie to Jones' boss can only go so far. Somebody in organized crime would have gotten something on Michael and tried to do something. Now we know Carla' agency had a hand in defecting a few things here and there.

Season 3 can't get here soon enough.

Frankly, I thought the writers were going to stretch the "shadow conspiracy" gimmick for the entire run, which would've been tiresome. I'm certainly glad that Michael now knows who he's been dealing with and what that brings in the future.

[ForeverTaskmaster]

I am glad that Michael now know who he has been dealing with. I became a drag to wait and wait and wait to find out who he was dealing with. I totally expect season 3 to be different from the first 2 seasons. A lot less A-Team like.

[Deathstroke]

I've still got to watch the last two episodes of the season. Thankfully I have On Demand.

[Murrocko]

Man, I love this show. I love how Michael knew what he wanted from the start and didn't hesitate to dive out a helicopter to finally get his freedom. I also love that the series seems like it only takes short breaks. Season three starts in like three months, can't wait.

[Anna]

One of the better shows on TV.

[Jared]

Very good episode. Loved that Fiona got to put one in Carla's gut.
I'm confused about how they split the seasons up. Are the episodes in June the second half of this season, or the start of the next? Was this season 2 or 3?

[Farealmer]

Very good episode. Loved that Fiona got to put one in Carla's gut.
I'm confused about how they split the seasons up. Are the episodes in June the second half of this season, or the start of the next? Was this season 2 or 3?
It was season 2.

[ForeverTaskmaster]

I didn't expect Fiona to be the one to off Carla, but it was a nice touch. How is Tricia Helfer in BSG? I don't follow BSG, but in Burn Notice Tricia was the b***h you love to hate.

[Toonimator]

Very good episode. Loved that Fiona got to put one in Carla's gut.
I'm confused about how they split the seasons up. Are the episodes in June the second half of this season, or the start of the next? Was this season 2 or 3?
Being on a fairly-typical (at least, for USA) cable schedule, seasons are short: 10-13 episodes. But they do two a year, Winter and Summer (January and June/July usually). I don't remember when exactly they started that practice. In essence we get a full 'broadcast network' season of 20-26 shows each year now for most of these series, just broken up into halves. I just wish more of them were aired during the breaks! Psych tends to vanish completely for months. Monk's got so many episodes they run it all the time; not sure if it has to do with reaching a syndication mark or what, given it's the same network.

Re: Helfer, she's pretty great in BSG.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Being on a fairly-typical (at least, for USA) cable schedule, seasons are short: 10-13 episodes. But they do two a year, Winter and Summer (January and June/July usually). I don't remember when exactly they started that practice. In essence we get a full 'broadcast network' season of 20-26 shows each year now for most of these series, just broken up into halves. I just wish more of them were aired during the breaks! Psych tends to vanish completely for months. Monk's got so many episodes they run it all the time; not sure if it has to do with reaching a syndication mark or what, given it's the same network.

Re: Helfer, she's pretty great in BSG.

Monk likely has enough for syndication once it ends. Its lasted order will push it over 115 episodes. From what I remember 88 is the magic number ya need for syndication.

[Infernorhythm]

Loved the finale, glad to see a nice twist come along. The cast was great, but Michael Shanks absolutely stole the show. Brilliant performance and great character. I've heard that they've tossed around the idea of a Victor prequel TV movie/miniseries. I'd love to see that.

[Jared]

Loved the finale, glad to see a nice twist come along. The cast was great, but Michael Shanks absolutely stole the show. Brilliant performance and great character. I've heard that they've tossed around the idea of a Victor prequel TV movie/miniseries. I'd love to see that.

I was hoping he'd have an ambiguous death, being left on the boat which then explodes.

Tricia seemed to vampy and model-y to me when BSG started, but she has really come into her own. She actually plays several different takes on the same character and she pulls it off.

[steve2275]

I've still got to watch the last two episodes of the season. Thankfully I have On Demand.
o absolutely
even if uve seen em already :tongue:

[Deathstroke]

o absolutely
even if uve seen em already :tongue:

I watched the one with the old fiance but still haven't gotten to the season finale yet.

[Anna]

He needs a series NOW!

[DLFerguson]

I didn't expect Fiona to be the one to off Carla, but it was a nice touch. How is Tricia Helfer in BSG? I don't follow BSG, but in Burn Notice Tricia was the b***h you love to hate.

Agreed about Fiona getting to whack Carla. I do so love it when Fiona gets her way.

[OhMyGato]

great season finale, but thankfully the next season is coming up pretty soon. starts up june 4th at 9pm...and they added more eye candy this time around...moon bloodgood, should satisfy all of you who arent feeling fiona.

[Infernorhythm]

great season finale, but thankfully the next season is coming up pretty soon. starts up june 4th at 9pm...and they added more eye candy this time around...moon bloodgood, should satisfy all of you who arent feeling fiona.

Really? I'm definitely seeing this now. I like Anwar, but she's becoming very skeletal....Bloodgood is great. Makes me miss Journeyman...:frown:

[Deathstroke]

I really liked the finale and can't wait to see what Michael does next.

[blackdragon6]

Bloodgood is great. Makes me miss Journeyman...:frown:Daybreak....

[Deathstroke]

Daybreak....

Best show on TV the year it aired.

[Toonimator]

Daybreak....
Not sure if you were trying to correct him or just adding another show to the 'i miss it' list... she was in both, for the record!

Which means Burn Notice will get even better this season, and then get canceled halfway through :wink:

[bigbluntz]

This is a very well written show. I'm not surprised Alan Moore ranked it is his top 5 when Wizard interviewed him. Season 2 Finale Spoiler Alert:
Killing Carla was epic and opens up alot of freedom for the writers in the future. I'm wondering if we'll see more enemies from Mike's past come after him. Can't w8 to see season 3 :smile:

[steve2275]

I really liked the finale and can't wait to see what Michael does next.swimming
and lots of it:tongue:

[ForeverTaskmaster]

I can't wait for season 3. I hope they stay on the level of the season 2 finale.

[Infernorhythm]

swimming
and lots of it:tongue:

Here's hoping season 3 starts out with a water logged Michael trying to get a new pair of sunglasses.:cool:

Hopefully this new season is a bit less episodic, and more serialized. When the show gets to move the master plot line along, it's great. If not, well, it's a McGyver in Miami with interchangeable drug lords. Eh.

And I still think it would be cool if we got a prequel miniseries for Victor. That would be insanely awesome.

[OhMyGato]

I love macgyver...i guess thats part of why i love the show so much...yeah im wondering how long its gonna take him to swim back to shore.

Moon shots for those that haven't seen:

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp196/Gandude/gfd_l4.jpg

[Jared]

Season 3 is on right now.

A five-mile swim is nothing for a super spy. I'm curious to see how Michaels new status shakes out. It already seems the burn organization was responsible for keeping the cops off his back.

[Infernorhythm]

Here's hoping season 3 starts out with a water logged Michael trying to get a new pair of sunglasses.:cool:

Okay, I was right! Woot!

At first I was really into this, the run from the cops was a great scene. Then he gets out, and we're back to the case of the week stuff. That just doesn't hold my interest. I want to see the fallout of everything. The master plot is interesting, the weekly client stuff is boring. I was hoping we'd get more serialized stuff, but oh well.

Still, the rest of the season gives me hope. I can't wait to see what foreign operatives are gunning for Michael.

[steve2275]

its easier to dodge questions than bullets

[Perry Holley]

Agreed about Fiona getting to whack Carla. I do so love it when Fiona gets her way.Especially since, during pretty much the entirety of Season 2, it was Fi who was repeatedly saying, "Why don't we just shoot her?"

Well, she did, and her one word after she did so summed it up perfectly. "Finally."

[Anna]

I've been away from my computer for awhile; but has anyone heard something about Jeffery Donavan getting a DUI?

[Murrocko]

I've been away from my computer for awhile; but has anyone heard something about Jeffery Donavan getting a DUI?

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/20/Jeffrey-donovan-burn-notice-dui-arrest-drunk

[ForeverTaskmaster]

If there is one actor of whom I wouldn't expect this it's Donovan.

By the way, great season so far. There were really some killer eps.

[Anna]

And now the season's ending :frown:

[DanElHombre]

yeah, there are two more episodes then a hiatus until the remaining four episodes in Janurary.

[OhMyGato]

yeah, summer finale is tomorrow night...from the promo it looks like the gang is in some serious trouble...

I think everyone realizes the best way to get at michael is to harm those around him...my guess is its Fiona this time (promo kind of shows this but I'm not sure)...looking forward to it

[Circuit Breaker]

As one who doesn't reside in the U.S, i'm just curious as why there is a 4 month gap before airing the final episodes?

I can understand shows taking a break over the xmas / new year period but 4 months? really??!!

To me as a viewer that just plain frustrating and annoying. Thankfully there is a delay before the show reaches our shores so we can watch the season in it's entirety.

Sorry for veering off topic....ok i'm done now....

[Toreador]

Around the time USA puts its shows on hiatus the big networks (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX) start up their fall seasons of shows. USA and Sci-Fi (excuse me 'SyFy') don't want to compete in the ratings and possibly lose their revenue dollars. They start up again during the Big 4's hiatus where they show re-runs while USA/ 'SyFy' can show first run episodes of their series.

[LordEd1976]

yeah, summer finale is tomorrow night...from the promo it looks like the gang is in some serious trouble...

I think everyone realizes the best way to get at michael is to harm those around him...my guess is its Fiona this time (promo kind of shows this but I'm not sure)...looking forward to it

That's a strategy that can backfire if one is not too careful. It seems like the two buttons you don't want to push with Micheal are kids and those close to him.

[mgs]

I've been watching this ever since that funny SDCC panel this year! :smile:

[BYC]

Although I shouldn't be, I'm a bit surprised the show kept the formula and didn't make any major changes. This is normally the trend for shows, but I expected something different with Burn Notice. I am only slightly disappointed. But now Michael and friends gets to face a new enemy. Good break. Especially if this is only a hitaus, not an actual season finale. It gives a good buffer to setup for next season.

[Jared]

I was shocked when Michael just up and shot Strickler right there. We already knew he really cared about Fi, but damn.

I was wondering when her IRA past would come up. I'm curious as to what exactly she did, since the authorities know who she is but don't seem to have any problem with her.

[Anna]

Ratings record for Burn Notice: http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/08/burn-notice-season-finale-sets-viewer-record-for-usa-network.html

[Ronald Bryan]

That was a great shock when Michael shot Strickler. The one thing Burn Notice has been doing is with every season (or half season) the problems keep piling up. This season, the news lit up where Michael Westin is, and now he's dug himself deeper into the hole.

[wildclaw]

As one who doesn't reside in the U.S, i'm just curious as why there is a 4 month gap before airing the final episodes?

I can understand shows taking a break over the xmas / new year period but 4 months? really??!!

To me as a viewer that just plain frustrating and annoying. Thankfully there is a delay before the show reaches our shores so we can watch the season in it's entirety.

Sorry for veering off topic....ok i'm done now....

In addition to what toreador said this site explains a little bit on how split seasons help grow the audience for a show http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/08/02/the-burn-noticesummer-finale-is-upon-us-and-the-split-seasons-dont-bother-me/24020 .

Burn notice is my favorite show on cable right now and I'm glad Micheal killed strickler because we rarely ever get to see his cold side in this show.

[BYC]

Do we know if Strickler might still be alive? Did Michael make sure? Cause this could be just another form of controlling Michael. Hell, Strickler could have been just wearing a vest and setup blood packs.

[kalorama]

Do we know if Strickler might still be alive? Did Michael make sure? Cause this could be just another form of controlling Michael. Hell, Strickler could have been just wearing a vest and setup blood packs.

I'm sure Michael would have checked to make sure he was dead before leaving his body for the authorities to find.

[Jared]

Do we know if Strickler might still be alive? Did Michael make sure? Cause this could be just another form of controlling Michael. Hell, Strickler could have been just wearing a vest and setup blood packs.

That would be a crazy risk to take when the guy shooting you isn't in on the plan. If he pumps one into your skull just to be sure, you're f**ked.

[kalorama]

Also, at the end of the episode, Michael tells Fiona's brother that Strickler's body would be found next to a bomb tying him to O'Neill. That means Michael would have had to go back to Strickler's place hours later and either plant a bomb in the house or move the body. It's not likely Strickler would have just laid there pretending to be dead, waiting for him to come back.

[Anna]

Loved the finale, glad to see a nice twist come along. The cast was great, but Michael Shanks absolutely stole the show. Brilliant performance and great character. I've heard that they've tossed around the idea of a Victor prequel TV movie/miniseries. I'd love to see that.

Console yourself with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGzr2GYFw4s

[OhMyGato]

the second half of the season starts up on 12/1 at 10...being USA i'm sure they will have some type of marathon so you can catch up..

[Deathstroke]

Ummmm...12/1?

That's December 1st isn't it? I'm fairly sure I didn't see a new episode then.

[Toreador]

Maybe he meant 1/12? Those 'furriners' like putting the date first and then the month. So July 4 comes out as 4/7 instead of 7/4.

Edit: Actually the usanetwork website says 1/21. OhMyGato had the '/' in the wrong place.

[Deathstroke]

Maybe he meant 1/12? Those 'furriners' like putting the date first and then the month. So July 4 comes out as 4/7 instead of 7/4.

Edit: Actually the usanetwork website says 1/21. OhMyGato had the '/' in the wrong place.

Okay, well that makes far more sense than December 1st..:D

[OhMyGato]

haha my bad on that...meant 1/21...

did anyone else see that tyne daly was going to be a guest star this season...im gonna guess her and sharon gless help michael solve something...

[Lasko8734]

comes on in...........20 minutes :smile:
Who's watching
any opinions

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

comes on in...........20 minutes :smile:
Who's watching
any opinions

I am.


And it will be glorious, as always.

[Lasko8734]

I just noticed, Burn Notice is similar to Grand Theft Auto

[Lasko8734]

How has Donovan not been nominated for an Emmy? :confused:

[Serik]

I just noticed, Burn Notice is similar to Grand Theft Auto

I was thinking that as I watched today's episode.

Part A-Team, part GTA, all awesome. Or something. It's just so damn fun to watch.

I was unsure of whether I should laugh or cringe at Weston's horrible southern accent. What can you say, though, about a show where Bruce Campbell gloriously overacts all the time?

[Lasko8734]

I was unsure of whether I should laugh or cringe at Weston's horrible southern accent. What can you say, though, about a show where Bruce Campbell gloriously overacts all the time?

I thought the accent was pretty good

[steve2275]

How has Donovan not been nominated for an Emmy? :confused:

not been nomed indeed

[Anna]

How has Donovan not been nominated for an Emmy? :confused:

My mom recently asked me the same question. I told her that it was because he's on a popular show that's not on HBO or NBC. :biggrin:

[BeastieRunner]

Isn't USA a part of the NBC family?

[GozertheGozarian]

My mom recently asked me the same question. I told her that it was because he's on a popular show that's not on HBO or NBC. :biggrin:
NBC won't be winning many awards right now, they can't crack the top 20.

[OhMyGato]

that was a solid premiere...mikes new man behind the curtain seems particularly ruthless...and the whole cagney & lacy thing was pretty cool...they do kind of look like each other now though.

[BYC]

My mom recently asked me the same question. I told her that it was because he's on a popular show that's not on HBO or NBC. :biggrin:
Actually, I don't think he's that good. I don't think many others can play the role, but he's really not super good or anything. I enjoy him a lot, but he's not that good.

[Anna]

Isn't USA a part of the NBC family?

Yes, but people actually watch the shows on USA. :biggrin:

[Jared]

Donovan is very good, but I can't say I've ever though "wow, give that man an Emmy!" while watching.

[kalorama]

I found it very underwhelming, esp. compared to previous season openers. The whole thing had a slapdash, half-finished feel to it. The case with the woman and the insurance scammers seemed really threadbare, with none of the level of thought and planning Michael's jobs usually have. We barely saw the client, and the bad guys were pretty limp. And the intro of the new mystery man in Michael's life didn't come across as very compelling. Even the Tyne Daly guest-spot seemed anticlimactic. The only part of the show that really hit the mark was the conversation between Michael and his Mom at the end.

[Anna]

Now THIS is disgusting: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/01/22/jersey-shore-bests-burn-notice-by-37-with-adults-18-49/39841

[Tyr]

NBC won't be winning many awards right now, they can't crack the top 20.

Yeah they've been blowing it big time, I think they got a little to cocky for there own good.

[Anna]

NBC won't be winning many awards right now, they can't crack the top 20.

Baldwin just scored another Golden Globe.

[Deathstroke]

I liked the episode.

Loved the idea that Fiona was seen to be the boss and Michael and Sam as her employees.

[OhMyGato]

I liked the episode.

Loved the idea that Fiona was seen to be the boss and Michael and Sam as her employees.

yeah that was pretty funny...does anyone else think sam is going to play a bigger part this year...any chance he ever has an ulterior motive??

[Stressfactor]

New big bad has a sexy voice, though. I was quite taken by it.

Edit: Found out who it is -- British actor Chris Vance. Found pictures as well..... Whooo yeeaaahhhh.... VERY easy on the eyes. Nice.

[GozertheGozarian]

yeah that was pretty funny...does anyone else think sam is going to play a bigger part this year...any chance he ever has an ulterior motive??
Not since they dumped the FBI informant bit.

[Lasko8734]

Now THIS is disgusting: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/01/22/jersey-shore-bests-burn-notice-by-37-with-adults-18-49/39841

WTF!! :eek:
Get me some brain bleach!

[LordEd1976]

Now THIS is disgusting: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/01/22/jersey-shore-bests-burn-notice-by-37-with-adults-18-49/39841

Ladies and gentlemen, proof that when the alien overlords come they will wipe humanity off the map for being an inferior species.

[OhMyGato]

hahaha...i definitely know a few people who watched jersey shore...being originally from jersey, its not really my cup of tea, but their loss...they missed out on a damn good episode of burn notice...

no jersey shore to compete with tonight either...

[Ronald Bryan]

How many other shows can have a stand-off with one person threatening to snap his fingers? I loved the set ups for each event and the way Michael played with Omar the whole episode. And the wrap around stuff built up on the main storyline, and how everything Michael does only puts him farther away from where he wants to be.

[Lasko8734]

So exactly what does Gilroy do? It seems as if he is an arms dealer

[Deathstroke]

Good episode last night.

Michael as the Devil was a quirky little bit of fun.

His mom's worry about Sam not drinking made me laugh.

[FanboyStranger]

His mom's worry about Sam not drinking made me laugh.

I was dying when she said that. I couldn't imagine anything that would make Sam Ax stop drinking.

[Anna]

Nice to see a more serios side of Sam, as well as a romantic moment between Michael and Fi.

[OhMyGato]

the snapping fingers gimmick was the epitome of cool..perfectly on cue...if that was happening in real life i'd definitely be freaked out...how could you not be...

loved the wonderful "bad guy aim" in the shootout...this show reminds me of all my favorite shows from the late 80s early 90s

[Ronald Bryan]

So exactly what does Gilroy do? It seems as if he is an arms dealer
I am getting the impression he is being set up as an opposite of Michael.

[BYC]

I am getting the impression he is being set up as an opposite of Michael.
Unlike the epic but brief bromance with Victor, this will probably be long, torturous, and levels of hate we haven't seen from Michael.

[Anna]

Unlike the epic but brief bromance with Victor, this will probably be long, torturous, and levels of hate we haven't seen from Michael.


Lesser Evil was one of the best episodes ever.

[Jared]

I hope we see the "Louis" cover again. He's way cooler than "Redneck Criminal Guy" that Michael often plays.

[Lord of Denial]

Best part was the end with Omar looking down at his fingers and snapping them and the look on his face as like " how the hell does he do that?"

[Stressfactor]

Unlike the epic but brief bromance with Victor, this will probably be long, torturous, and levels of hate we haven't seen from Michael.Yeah, actually, series creator Matt Nix said they were going to be playing with that for this second half of the season.

They're going to show that Gilroy is a seriously bad guy but he's going to have quite a bit of charm and there's going to be stuff about him that Michael actually likes. He also promised they'd do a story where Michael is stuck helping a client that he hates and he's actually going to like Gilroy more than the client he's dealing with.

[Toonimator]

Yeah, actually, series creator Matt Nix said they were going to be playing with that for this second half of the season.

They're going to show that Gilroy is a seriously bad guy but he's going to have quite a bit of charm and there's going to be stuff about him that Michael actually likes. He also promised they'd do a story where Michael is stuck helping a client that he hates and he's actually going to like Gilroy more than the client he's dealing with.
Could that be next week's episode with Sugar? Maybe he's not enough of a nuisance for Michael to actually HATE him, but definitely an annoying guy to be saddled with.

[Anna]

Good episode last night.

Michael as the Devil was a quirky little bit of fun.

His mom's worry about Sam not drinking made me laugh.

All that and Machete too.

[Lasko8734]

All that and Machete too.

He gets the women :smile:

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

Best part was the end with Omar looking down at his fingers and snapping them and the look on his face as like " how the hell does he do that?"

Agreed.


The deep rough voice was a bit silly, but I liked the suit and the snapping fingers thing. I thoght that was wicked (pun intended). :smile:

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

I thought last night's episode was another excellent one. I liked how Sugar ended up being the client and how Michael helped him out.

[GozertheGozarian]

Nice continuity with Sugar's limp.

[Anna]

Sugar even became sympathetic in the end.

Damn, Gilroy's cold though.

[Jared]

Everytime Gilroy speaks, I wonder if that's the actor's regular voice. It's almost too deliciously evil to be true.

I liked Suger showing up again. I LOLed at "shot me through a wall, did something with duct tape."

It occurs to me that we haven't seen Michael's landlord since the first or second episode, have we?

[Lasko8734]

I found that one line to be funny

"There were complications"
"He broke his ankle"

[BYC]

After re-watching all 3 episodes, I'm convinced Gilroy is bi-sexual. His schemes are going to be delicious, and I hope he's an actual match for Michael. So far, we've seen Gilroy is good enough to track Michael via cellphone, and get the jump on Michael. I hope he's not just a planner, but an actual man of action.

[Young Avenger]

Just how long as it been since Michael has been burned? Sugar still has a lump from being shot so I imagine what happened in the pliot wasn't too long ago.

[BYC]

Just how long as it been since Michael has been burned? Sugar still has a lump from being shot so I imagine what happened in the pliot wasn't too long ago.
I'd say 3-6 months.

Back in season 2, I commented it was absurd for Michael to be doing these jobs, but have nobody notice. "Management" was behind that, but I think the scriptology of the series has suggested Michael has only made major enemies in other agencies, as opposed to local toughs who need more than 3-6 months before they see a pattern in their area.

[Young Avenger]

I'd say 3-6 months.

Back in season 2, I commented it was absurd for Michael to be doing these jobs, but have nobody notice. "Management" was behind that, but I think the scriptology of the series has suggested Michael has only made major enemies in other agencies, as opposed to local toughs who need more than 3-6 months before they see a pattern in their area.

Even the local toughs should be aware of Michael. In late season 1 and season 2 some of Michael's clients came to him because they heard about him from his past clients. Hell, one client that was an ex-con knew about him from his cellmate who's operation got tanked thanks to Michael. He should be known to the local criminals by now as word about Michael has spread.

[BYC]

Even the local toughs should be aware of Michael. In late season 1 and season 2 some of Michael's clients came to him because they heard about him from his past clients. Hell, one client that was an ex-con knew about him from his cellmate who's operation got tanked thanks to Michael. He should be known to the local criminals by now as word about Michael has spread.
Maybe his rep is building then. Michael has taken on local organized crime figures, and they haven't moved against him yet. As I have previously stated, those figures have enough power to want revenge, and it makes me wonder what has prevent them from doing so now that "Management" isn't protecting Michael anymore.

Or are they?

[Anna]

The police began to take notice at the beginning of the season. Heavily ethnic communities such as last week's Dominicans would tend to be a little more insulated from outside activities.

[Deathstroke]

The Sugar episode was good.

I forgot to watch it on Thursday but caught it on On Demand.

[Anna]

Any guesses as to the identity of our prisoner?

[Jared]

I doubt it's anyone we've seen before. But with all the mentions of Michael's time in Afganistan, maybe it's a terrorist he has a history with.

[BYC]

I'm trying to think if it's anybody that's shown up in the show.

Who was the Russian merc that Michael took down in the swamps with the black guy?

I can't wait to see Gilroy with Michael, and see if Gilroy is 2 steps in front of Michael. Love that guy.

[Stressfactor]

Going back a few weeks... Tim Mattheson's Larry is just psycho. I just can't help but look at this character and then go: "And to think, this is the same guy who, when he was a kid, was the ORIGINAL voice of Johnny Quest! :eek:"

[Jared]

BTW, mad props for Sam doing the CSI Miami tag lines.

"It looks like murder...is in season." Mentally I was adding the Roger Daltrey scream.

[DjMichael691]

:biggrin:BTW, mad props for Sam doing the CSI Miami tag lines.

"It looks like murder...is in season." Mentally I was adding the Roger Daltrey scream.

Shit that was funny. I also heard the scream after :biggrin:
Sam even put on his sunglasses when saying the line. PERFECT! :tongue:

[BYC]

Oh Gilroy, you sly bastard. Love that guy.

[BYC]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo!!!

I was this was comics, then Gilroy can come back. This entire thing seem completely ridiculous until we find out who "Simon" is.

[Lasko8734]

Who the fuck is Simon?

[GozertheGozarian]

What's the deal with killing off all the cool bad guys. First Viktor, now Gilroy.

[Lasko8734]

What's the deal with killing off all the cool bad guys. First Viktor, now Gilroy.

I think Simon's gonna be even more badass

[DjMichael691]

Gilroy was too cool.

[Lasko8734]

Gilroy was too cool.

I just hope that Simon is even cooler

[BYC]

I don't think Simon will be too cool. He's been in prison for some time, and was willing to pay 10 million to kill Michael personally.

Unless it was Simon Phoenix, I doubt this new (or old?) character will be that good at all.

[Anna]

I don't think Simon will be too cool. He's been in prison for some time, and was willing to pay 10 million to kill Michael personally.

Unless it was Simon Phoenix, I doubt this new (or old?) character will be that good at all.

If that was him in the preview, I don't think he's going to be too cool.

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

If that was him in the preview, I don't think he's going to be too cool.

That's an awesome sig you've got there, Anna!:biggrin:

[Ugoff]

I can't believe they killed Gilroy! That was really unexpected. This show just gets better and better!

[Lasko8734]

Anyone seen th (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd6np_NbdtA&feature=player_embedded)ese exclusive clips from the Season Finale. They are basi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdOTvi9kx7I&feature=player_embedded)cally the first 3 and a half minutes of the episode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc-Dx5d5VkM&feature=player_embedded)

[Anna]

That's an awesome sig you've got there, Anna!:biggrin:

What can I say?

[Lasko8734]

What can I say?

Why do you like all of my favorite shows? :biggrin:

[Anna]

Why do you like all of my favorite shows? :biggrin:

Because they're cool! :biggrin:

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

Because they're cool! :biggrin:

Indeed they are! Over here in the UK we've only recently begun showing both Burn Notice and Leverage. No Human Target as yet but I'm holding out hopefully.
My favourite character is Parker. She's very quirky, looks to have a deliciously twisted evil side and she's really, really cute.:smile:

[Lasko8734]

Come one, Come all Burn Notice fans!
tonight we can all watch the season finale together!

Burn Notice chat (http://burnnotice.wetpaint.com/page/Burn+Notice+Live+Chat)

It will be loads of fun!

[GozertheGozarian]

I may have bee wrong, Simon is pretty damn amusing.

[BYC]

Wow Management is way stupider than I thought. I am sated by the plot now. Although I hate Gilroy died, the progression from why Michael got burned upto this point is solid. This brings up that Michael is even more important than we thought initially, even after Karla was explaining to Michael that he is a rising star. My guess for the 4th season is that Michael has special significance to Management other than he's really goddamn good spy.

I love this show, but usual "main character is not just special, he's UBER special!" It's very RPG-ish actually, and I do appreciate that. I also hope the formula is a tad different next season.

And oh, I love the full season divided into 2 parts. As a lover of HBO shows, it's painfully slow how they put out the seasons sometimes, and a mere 3 months before the next season begins is awesome.

[Young Avenger]

Wow Management is way stupider than I thought. I am sated by the plot now. Although I hate Gilroy died, the progression from why Michael got burned upto this point is solid. This brings up that Michael is even more important than we thought initially, even after Karla was explaining to Michael that he is a rising star. My guess for the 4th season is that Michael has special significance to Management other than he's really goddamn good spy.

I love this show, but usual "main character is not just special, he's UBER special!" It's very RPG-ish actually, and I do appreciate that. I also hope the formula is a tad different next season.

And oh, I love the full season divided into 2 parts. As a lover of HBO shows, it's painfully slow how they put out the seasons sometimes, and a mere 3 months before the next season begins is awesome.

I think management thought he had everything taken care of having his team secure the building and having Michael by his side.

I'm was disappointed with Simon. They built him up as being someone from Michael's past and the commercial even suggested the possibility of him being a character the viewers were familiar with. Being the guy responsible for the terrorism on Michael's Burn Notice is very disappointing.

[Anna]

I still have to wait 90 minutes. :mad:

[Serik]

I'm was disappointed with Simon. They built him up as being someone from Michael's past and the commercial even suggested the possibility of him being a character the viewers were familiar with.

Same here. You have to be really good to sell the deranged psychopath character without coming across as merely ridiculous, and Simon wasn't frightening or convincing. An easily-diffused bomb in a hotel? Really? The episode was entertaining, don't get me wrong, but it certainly didn't come across as season finale material.

The helipad scene was amazing, though. You had 30 seconds of footage of copters blazing into Miami, expecting them to drop off the cavalry that was going to light up Simon's team in the street. But then BOOM! and it all goes to shit. Really a great way of showing the hubris of those black suit types.

[edhopper]

It all seemed a bit forced. Simon as the over the top psycho (Gilroy was a much better pyscho). And all moving to a very unsatisfying, unresolved ending. I know they think they need a cliff hanger, but the constant loose ends become annoying.

They could have still had the whole Michael in custody thing if just he shot Simon in the head.

[GozertheGozarian]

Simon is being set up as next season's big bad, they can't kill him just yet.

[edhopper]

Simon is being set up as next season's big bad, they can't kill him just yet.

Actually i see a Michael/Simon team-up next season. Probably arranged by the Management.

[JCAll]

Michael should have had Management land where they first met to aviod such obvious traps. You're slipping Mr. Weston.

[Ronald Bryan]

Thoughts:

-No, Michael's loverboy is dead! No more sexual tension with Gilroy.

-I like Michael being on the run. Too often he just walks away when the police are everywhere. Worse, he tends to just get in his car and drive away, often past the police officers looking for him.

-The FBI are pretty stupid if they don't know about the Westin family history. Ma don't crack.

-So, Cromartie is Simon? He seems less evil and more off balance.

-Three years ago? Wasn't he burned three years ago? Oh, timelines, who knows how long it has actually been. I do like that his mother then makes up a different place to go to.

-Michael made sure to throw the bomb outside of his place. Nice, even when hunted by the FBI and on the run he doesn't want to ruin his place.

-And the bomb is now defused. Right?

-Except the files are lies. Simon already admitted (to Michael) that he did all of it. And his mother's right. If Michael wanted to kil anyone, they would be dead.

-Management must be planning something for Michael for this. And would the FBI take Simon into custody?

-I wonder if this whole thing was a plan by Management to get Michael to do something for him. And what happened to Simon? Was he taken into custody or did he get off?

[DanElHombre]

Was it just my impression, or was Michael sitting in the Oval Office at the end?

[Anna]

Meet Michael's new friend http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i0215407931edfdd7b7656c91b8dc3c19

[Young Avenger]

Meet Michael's new friend http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i0215407931edfdd7b7656c91b8dc3c19

It should have been Victor!

[Anna]

It should have been Victor!

I know. I miss him too. :frown:

[Jared]

How was Simon hiring Gilroy while in a top secret prison in South America? (Or was it Poland, I forget)

I also don't get how Managment could not have known that Simon escaped until Michael told him.

[chico25]

How was Simon hiring Gilroy while in a top secret prison in South America? (Or was it Poland, I forget)

I also don't get how Managment could not have known that Simon escaped until Michael told him.

Must be a traitor in the organization still loyal to Simon with enough pull to make it happen. I mean if we look at everyone we've met that works for them Victor, went rouge started killing agents, Carla, doing her job but stealing money, unnamed sniper, only doing it to get his pension back and Michael, doing everything he can to get away from them. The recruiting methods they use don't seem to inspire much loyalty.

[Anna]

Must be a traitor in the organization still loyal to Simon with enough pull to make it happen. I mean if we look at everyone we've met that works for them Victor, went rouge started killing agents, Carla, doing her job but stealing money, unnamed sniper, only doing it to get his pension back and Michael, doing everything he can to get away from them. The recruiting methods they use don't seem to inspire much loyalty.

Yeah, Victor went rogue after learning that Carla had his family killed as part of his recruitment. The orginization also killed the guy who modified the sniper's weapon; as well as a guy who made a key card for Michael.

[Ugoff]

This episode was great but the ending was disappointing. I just expected more. I guess I was expecting more answers although this episode delivered.

[Anna]

Some of you might find the the last paragraph of this White Collar article interesting: http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/show-patrol/2010/03/white-collar-boss-jeff-eastin-teases-season-2.html

[Young Avenger]

Some of you might find the the last paragraph of this White Collar article interesting: http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/show-patrol/2010/03/white-collar-boss-jeff-eastin-teases-season-2.html

USA does it all the time in commercials. It's about time they do it officially. I hope they go though with it.

[Anna]

Robert Wisdom is on board as a new baddie:

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/03/17/burn-notice-robert-wisdom/

[Jared]

Has anyone else greatly increased their yogurt intake because of this show?

Almost everyday I'll grab a cup out of the fridge to snack on instead of a handful of chips, and I think to myself, "Yup, just like Michael Weston."

[Anna]

Two year guaratnee! http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118017839.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

Two year guaratnee! http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118017839.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

That's great news!:biggrin:

[Anna]

Burt Reynolds will be dropping by: http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/05/11/burn-notice-burt-reynolds/

[OhMyGato]

So pumped for Burt Reynolds! He's going to fit in perfectly with this odd-ball crew.

[OhMyGato]

So now that we've got a pretty darn good list of guest stars this season, who do you think is tops? I'm a huge Burt Reynolds fan for this role, but I think Robert Wisdom of "The Wire" could be stellar, too.

Here's the list so far:
Robert Wisdom
Burt Reynolds
Chris Vance
Tim Matheson
Rich Sommer
Nestor Serrano

Who do you think will be the best guest star of the season?

[Anna]

So now that we've got a pretty darn good list of guest stars this season, who do you think is tops? I'm a huge Burt Reynolds fan for this role, but I think Robert Wisdom of "The Wire" could be stellar, too.

Here's the list so far:
Robert Wisdom
Burt Reynolds
Chris Vance
Tim Matheson
Rich Sommer
Nestor Serrano

Who do you think will be the best guest star of the season?

Hard to top Vance; I think I'll miss Gilroy almost as much as Victor.

[Vidocq]

So now that we've got a pretty darn good list of guest stars this season, who do you think is tops? I'm a huge Burt Reynolds fan for this role, but I think Robert Wisdom of "The Wire" could be stellar, too.

Here's the list so far:
Robert Wisdom
Burt Reynolds
Chris Vance
Tim Matheson
Rich Sommer
Nestor Serrano

Who do you think will be the best guest star of the season?

How is Chris Vance Coming back? Gilroy is dead. Shot and Chained to a bomb.

But to answer your question, I am very excited to see Burt Reynolds play a veteran burned spy and is nice to see that Larry will be back but I don't really know who the others are and I wont really care until I see them on screen.

[steve2275]

Burt Reynolds will be dropping by: http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/05/11/burn-notice-burt-reynolds/
the burned bandit :tongue:

[Anna]

How is Chris Vance Coming back? Gilroy is dead. Shot and Chained to a bomb.

But to answer your question, I am very excited to see Burt Reynolds play a veteran burned spy and is nice to see that Larry will be back but I don't really know who the others are and I wont really care until I see them on screen.

Heh heh... I grew up watching Stefano Dimera and company come back from the dead multiple times on Days Of Our Lives. Stefano got shot, blown up, knocked into fire, thrown out of a penthouse and got struck by lightning; as well as survived a brain tumor, kidney disease and at least one poisoning attempt. Between him and his nephew Andre over twenty victims were officially pronounced dead on camera; only to eventually come back (rumors still persist that some of those who died during the last five years may eventually return....

You know who I'd like to see resurrected on Burn Notice... :cool:

[BYC]

Could be a flashback, or...Gilroy's twin brother!

[Anna]

So now that we've got a pretty darn good list of guest stars this season, who do you think is tops? I'm a huge Burt Reynolds fan for this role, but I think Robert Wisdom of "The Wire" could be stellar, too.

Here's the list so far:
Robert Wisdom
Burt Reynolds
Chris Vance
Tim Matheson
Rich Sommer
Nestor Serrano

Who do you think will be the best guest star of the season? Wisdom is mentioned in Entertainment Weekly's magazine piece on the show's return. He might be Michael's ticket back IN.

Could be a flashback, or...Gilroy's twin brother! Who blames Michael for his death?

[Holacik]

You know who I'd like to see resurrected on Burn Notice... :cool:

Yeah, but he had a nice death really...

[Anna]

Yeah, but he had a nice death really...

Perhaps why it still resonates....?

[OhMyGato]

LOL the burned bandit...can't wait! I just can't wait for the season to start tonight in general. 9PM baby!!

[Anna]

Did this guy: http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/review-burn-notice-returns-for-season-four say Gilroy was SILLY!?! :mad: :evilangry:

[Ugoff]

Yawn. Just didnt feel this. I've loved the show since day one. But this felt like everything we've already seen. Every season it's a new face Michael has to interact with in addition to the side jobs. I just don't know. Maybe I just need time to start liking the show again. Maybe the break from the show affected me.

[OhMyGato]

I'm really into the direction the show is headed. I like the fact that we've seen tough Michael Westen break down a few times already in the first episode. This predicament he's in is clearly affecting him. It'll be cool to see how his relationship develops with this newly burned spy over the course of the season. It could add a really cool dynamic if Michael turns into a mentor type, don't you think?

[Stressfactor]

I'm really into the direction the show is headed. I like the fact that we've seen tough Michael Westen break down a few times already in the first episode. This predicament he's in is clearly affecting him. It'll be cool to see how his relationship develops with this newly burned spy over the course of the season. It could add a really cool dynamic if Michael turns into a mentor type, don't you think?

There's also a kind of a 'Luke Skywalker "Empire Strikes Back"' vibe to things as well... Just as Luke ended up doing some skating close to the Dark Side (remember, when he entered the cave under the tree he disobeyed Yoda in taking his weapon and he struck at the image of Vader out of hatred and revenge and saw his own face behind the mask -- a warning that he could follow in his father's footsteps if he wasn't careful) we're seeing Michael worried about becoming that which he hates but at the same time the things he is doing ARE making him skate closer and closer to that dark side.

[Global Honored]

Oh man, missed the premiere of new season b/c of Lakers-Celts game...have to catch it this weekend on replay. Glad to read good reviews here.

[Shade]

Really strong opening. LOVED the scene with Michael and his Mom. Really well done by both actors. And I'm intrigued about the new burned spy element, especially because it's Coby Bell who I think is a very under appreciated actor.

[Vidocq]

Loved every second of it. It's a great progress to the storyline to see Micheal working with the Organization that Burned him, this storyline has been flowing so naturally since season 1 to now and it has been a joy to watch.

And It had a great Case too with the Biker Gang. It was quite funny to see how Michael comes back in the middle of a case with only a few good to see you backs and a mini uzi as a welcome.

And watching Michael Burn another spy was the Icing in the cake. It always anoyed me that in this type of shows to see the protagonist just con inocent people into giving them what they want for the greater good without any consequences or collateral. I remember an episode of the A Team were Murdock cons a farmer into giving him his boss's helicopter with the farmer repeating 'OK, but bring it back soon'', just for him to crash it a couple of scenes later and it has happened a couple of times in Burn Notice too. Glad to see the writters doing something about it

Also I'm calling it right now Vaughn will turn out to be the mastermind behind all those secret wars. He just let himself get shot to sell his story. Probably let Simon out to be promoted to Management, financed the wars to create a desparate need for a new Management and got Michael on the job to cover it up

This is going to be a great season.

[Anna]

Old faces and new coming up: http://www.spoilertv.com/2010/06/covert-affairs-and-burn-notice-casting.html

[BYC]

Solid, if unspectular.

Working with people that might be on his side of morals is nice. It not being Management and his people is disappointing.

Fiona looks HOT with those eyeliners and facial makeup. She looks way better than I've ever seen it. A bit slutty perhaps, but hot nonetheless.

Wasting Michael Ironside on a throwaway is a major no-no. He's freakin MICHAEL IRONSIDE, king of the B-level stotic badass. You don't introduce him as "just another gun runner", and then killing him not more than 5 minutes later. Huge waste.

Michael's friends and family getting over his capture so quickly is annoying, even if there was a heart to heart with mom in the close.

Bikers were lame, but whatever.

This show keeps chugging on its formula. I don't love the formula, but it's still good at the moment.

[Jared]

Sons of Anarchy spoiled me on the biker plot. I just kept going "Man, these guys are pussies."

Be interesting to see if Vaughn is really far more sinister than he presents himself as. But does he outrank Management or not?

Didn't expect to see Michael on the verge of tears so much at the end. That was a nice touch.

[OhMyGato]

Haha I hadn't thought of that Star Wars comparison, but I like it. Does that make Sam = Han Solo?

I'm also looking forward to Coby Bell joining the cast (http://www.tvfanatic.com/2010/03/coby-bell-joins-cast-of-burn-notice/). He should fit well with this bunch.

[Anna]

Good news: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/06/10/burn-notice-royal-pains-seasons-extended-to-18-episodes-in-plain-sights-reduced-to-13-for-medical-reasons/53754

[Deathstroke]

Two episodes into the new season and I'm having trouble getting into it.

[Typo Lad]

I was just remarking to my wife that it feel like it's jumped a bit. I mean, Michael found the people who burned him and he's working for them? Wha?

I'll give it a few more episodes to wow me again.

[Holacik]

I was just remarking to my wife that it feel like it's jumped a bit. I mean, Michael found the people who burned him and he's working for them? Wha?

I'll give it a few more episodes to wow me again.

To be fair he found them back in season 2. and he's left with little choice but to work for them, but he should tread lightly as they have a habit of turning agents into psychopaths.

[Farealmer]

Yeah i don't see what the issue is with Mike working for them. He's been working for people he doesn't like and/or wronged him since since season 2 if not sooner. Carla, Victor, Strickler, and Gilroy all come to mind.

[Anna]

Yeah i don't see what the issue is with Mike working for them. He's been working for people he doesn't like and/or wronged him since since season 2 if not sooner. Carla, Victor, Strickler, and Gilroy all come to mind.

Because he knows that Carla killed Victor's family in order to recruit him for this same organization; she also had a habit of killing folks who had done jobs for her after they were no longer needed.... He learned that he and Victor were once very much alike; Michael's more likely to become like him than Simon.

[Typo Lad]

Yeah i don't see what the issue is with Mike working for them. He's been working for people he doesn't like and/or wronged him since since season 2 if not sooner. Carla, Victor, Strickler, and Gilroy all come to mind.

yeah, but in those cases he was playing more of a double game. WIth Vaung, he seems to be sharing an actual goal, which is very un-Michael.

[Holacik]

yeah, but in those cases he was playing more of a double game. WIth Vaung, he seems to be sharing an actual goal, which is very un-Michael.

Eh, he still doesn't trust them and he isn't doing things they way they want him to. So that's pretty much in-character for him.

[Stressfactor]

yeah, but in those cases he was playing more of a double game. WIth Vaung, he seems to be sharing an actual goal, which is very un-Michael.

Only in as much as we have already established that Michael is a good guy at heart. He did what he did back when he was a legally sanctioned spy because he honestly BELIEVED he was saving people, protecting people.

Now he's seen that there is someone REALLY bad out there and he worries that if he DOESN'T work with Vaughn then people are going to get hurt or killed and he doesn't want that on his concience.

In some ways he's acting as a classic control freak... the kind of people who work in offices and never take vacations because they think the whole place will fall apart if they're not there to run it. The kind of people who think THEY have to do every job or oversee it personally or else it will get screwed up.

Michael believes he HAS to see this to the end because he thinks that if he doesn't it's not going to get done right.

[OhMyGato]

I agree, he's a total control freak. Remember how pissed he was at Fi when he found out she and Sam were taking jobs without him. I'm looking forward to him getting closer to the one who is personally responsible for his burn.

If you guys missed the episode last night, definitely check it out online (http://www.usanetwork.com/series/burnnotice/video/fullep/) because it was a good one.

[OhMyGato]

Came across these sneak peeks (http://www.daemonstv.com/2010/06/24/burn-notice-breach-of-faith-season-4-episode-4/) today. Tonight's episode looks to be real fun!

[Toreador]

I hope Michael is getting paid or an expense account doing his spy work. 3 episodes in and he hasn't taken a paying job yet. He's probably down to his last cup of yogurt.

[Red Lotus]

I agree, he's a total control freak. Remember how pissed he was at Fi when he found out she and Sam were taking jobs without him. I'm looking forward to him getting closer to the one who is personally responsible for his burn.

If you guys missed the episode last night, definitely check it out online (http://www.usanetwork.com/series/burnnotice/video/fullep/) because it was a good one.

He was mad at Fi because to him it felt like her and Sam pretty much started to move on with their lives with out him. Which kind of hurt his feeling a little.

[The Cool Thatguy]

I hope Michael is getting paid or an expense account doing his spy work. 3 episodes in and he hasn't taken a paying job yet. He's probably down to his last cup of yogurt.

What was his last paying job, anyways? When he burned that pile of gangster money was likely the only time he really got paid.

[OhMyGato]

Looking like an exciting episode coming up. LOL I like the part of the promo (http://video.usanetwork.com/series/burn_notice/#////series/burn_notice/season_four_previews/neighborhood-watch-promo/v1235795)when Fi gets jealous Michael is getting too close with the assassin.

[Jared]

When's the last time we saw Michael's landlord? The guy is awfully forigiving about all the explosions and police visits his building gets.

[Kevin Vetter]

I'd think they wouldn't need that many paying jobs since barry could probably help out quite a bit with anything they earned.

[LordEd1976]

I'd think they wouldn't need that many paying jobs since barry could probably help out quite a bit with anything they earned.

It also wouldn't surprise me if Micheal has been saving some of the money he earns from paying jobs. Also Jesse may have some money stashed somewhere in case of emergencies.

Not to mention you'd be surprised how money you can save by occassionally stopping by your mom's house for dinner. If Mikey's mom is anything like mine, she make sure that leftovers are taken home.

[Toreador]

It also wouldn't surprise me if Micheal has been saving some of the money he earns from paying jobs. Also Jesse may have some money stashed somewhere in case of emergencies.

Not to mention you'd be surprised how money you can save by occassionally stopping by your mom's house for dinner. If Mikey's mom is anything like mine, she make sure that leftovers are taken home.

Except Madeline is always complaining that the only time Michael comes over is when he needs to work on something in the garage or hide one of his clients for a few days. And a cook she's not. Michael hid some documents in the oven because he knows his mother doesn't cook.

Even if he is saving his money costs do add up. Gas, utilities, food (even though it seems he only eats yogurt). He also goes through a lot of cell phones each season for parts.

[Anna]

Except Madeline is always complaining that the only time Michael comes over is when he needs to work on something in the garage or hide one of his clients for a few days. And a cook she's not. Michael hid some documents in the oven because he knows his mother doesn't cook.

Even if he is saving his money costs do add up. Gas, utilities, food (even though it seems he only eats yogurt). He also goes through a lot of cell phones each season for parts.

Fiona makes money dealing guns, while Sam saves money by living with Maddie's neighbor.

[Red Lotus]

Looking like an exciting episode coming up. LOL I like the part of the promo (http://video.usanetwork.com/series/burn_notice/#////series/burn_notice/season_four_previews/neighborhood-watch-promo/v1235795)when Fi gets jealous Michael is getting too close with the assassin.

I wonder if that assassin is going to have some unknown link to Sam. He said there was some thing familiar about her.

[3rd lvl Mage]

I need to get caught up, i'm only on season 3 right now.

[Vidocq]

The Burt Reynolds episode is next week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lQR3OfM_TA

[Deathstroke]

I hope it is good rather than a "Look we got Burt Reynolds to guest star" episode.

[Lestov16]

I hope it is good rather than a "Look we got Burt Reynolds to guest star" episode.

It's Burt Reynolds. How can you lose? But in all seriousness, it seems as if it will be the former

[BYC]

It's Burt Reynolds. How can you lose? But in all seriousness, it seems as if it will be the former
Michael Ironside was on for like 5 minutes before getting killed off. That's how to fail.

[Lestov16]

Michael Ironside was on for like 5 minutes before getting killed off. That's how to fail.

lol. That was disappointing.

[Anna]

Pretty spoilery Burn Notice pics: http://www.spoilertv.com/2010/08/burn-notice-episode-410-hard-time.html


Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[The Cool Thatguy]

When's the last time we saw Michael's landlord? The guy is awfully forigiving about all the explosions and police visits his building gets.

To be fair, we kinda know that Mike's a legend to Russian spies. Would you tell Rambo to knock it off, if he were renting a space from you?

[BeastieRunner]

Is the movie joke/rumor from CCI true!?

[Anna]

Is the movie joke/rumor from CCI true!?

The Sam movie?

[Toonimator]

Still need to catch up on the end of last season, and a few episodes from this season, but watching a bit of one episode recently I was reminded how car-focused they've been this season. Previously, the cars would switch often, especially with Sam & Fi. But this season it's been an in-your-face commercial for Fi's blue car, whether it's Sam remarking how well the car held up after driving through a wall, or Michael's narration about how the features of the car help in a particular chase scene, or lingering camera shots on the car's logo. :tongue:

[Red Lotus]

Still need to catch up on the end of last season, and a few episodes from this season, but watching a bit of one episode recently I was reminded how car-focused they've been this season. Previously, the cars would switch often, especially with Sam & Fi. But this season it's been an in-your-face commercial for Fi's blue car, whether it's Sam remarking how well the car held up after driving through a wall, or Michael's narration about how the features of the car help in a particular chase scene, or lingering camera shots on the car's logo. :tongue:

I'm starting to think this is a USA network thing. Which I hate. They did the same thing on Royal Pains where Evan got a sienna and then Psych did some thing with one of their sponsors.

[Typo Lad]

I'm starting to think this is a USA network thing. Which I hate. They did the same thing on Royal Pains where Evan got a sienna and then Psych did some thing with one of their sponsors.
Not just USA. Bones did it for a few episodes.

[Toonimator]

I'm starting to think this is a USA network thing. Which I hate. They did the same thing on Royal Pains where Evan got a sienna and then Psych did some thing with one of their sponsors.
I noticed the Sienna, but it seemed pretty brief. They yakked about it a lot when he got it, then it was mentioned a lot less gaudily in the next episode where it was lent to Kharma so she could get home. What bugged me more about that whole deal was how in Season 1, Evan was given a sports car! Okay, HANK was given the sports car, but he passed it on to Evan who didn't have a ride of his own. I don't recall it being trashed/stolen/whatever in the final episodes of Season 1, or in Season 2, so... what happened to it? Season 2 begins right after Season 1 ends, so it's only been a couple weeks since he got the sports car, then went on about buying a Jaguar or whatever, and wound up with the Sienna.

I don't remember any standout product-placement for Psych, though it may have been masked by enough riffing by Shawn & Gus that I was oblivious.

Except for the Snickers bars in last night's episode... :biggrin:

[The Cool Thatguy]

Anyone know why Itunes hasn't offered a season pass for the latest season?

[BeastieRunner]

The Sam movie?
Yes that one.

[DF2506]

Re: in-your-face commercial: The car thing on Burn Notice doesn't bother me. Especially since I've seen Warehouse 13 do worse this season (Twizzlers! Stop with the Twizzlers already!).

Also The Closer, with candy bars, has been doing commericals in show too. And Psych.

The worse offender EVER of this was Smallville. *shivers* That gum episode...*shivers*

Anyway, last night's episode of Burn Notice was really good! Wow. Thats more like it. Personally, I have to say, this season over all has been very weak. Mostly do to the new guy, Jesse. He's just been breaking up the whole team dynamic. Also, the actor playing him is not a good actor at all. Least favorite character this summer? Yes indeed!

So, seeing the character go bad is good imo. Though, I'm kind of afraid that he might go good again and rejoin the team and be a cast member next season. *shivers* NO! Please no. If he goes good again, just let him get his old job back or something. Or better yet just kill the character off! lol. They killed Micheal Shanks BN character off and that character was a lot better imo. I think that would be the best way to go with Jesse.

Well, that said, cool episode. Shocking cliffhanger too. I'm hoping the next half of the season, in November, is better.

DF2506

[Toonimator]

I was gonna mention Smallville, though I don't remember the gum episode? The standouts were in the early seasons, when they had Remy Zero perform at a Smallville High dance and Pete Ross name-checked them in a most painful way, and the king of offenses was the promotion of the Smallville CD "Talon Mix" within an episode.

[tjarvis]

I was gonna mention Smallville, though I don't remember the gum episode? The standouts were in the early seasons, when they had Remy Zero perform at a Smallville High dance and Pete Ross name-checked them in a most painful way, and the king of offenses was the promotion of the Smallville CD "Talon Mix" within an episode.

I always remember the Old Spice bottles showing up everywhere in the Mr. Mytzpetlik episode.

And the MGD 64 bottles were prominent in that one scene with Sam and Mike. Still a good episode, and Mike sold the being shot through the chest part really well.

[Anna]

I'm starting to think this is a USA network thing. Which I hate. They did the same thing on Royal Pains where Evan got a sienna and then Psych did some thing with one of their sponsors.

Re: in-your-face commercial: The car thing on Burn Notice doesn't bother me. Especially since I've seen Warehouse 13 do worse this season (Twizzlers! Stop with the Twizzlers already!).

Also The Closer, with candy bars, has been doing commericals in show too. And Psych.

The worse offender EVER of this was Smallville. *shivers* That gum episode...*shivers*

Anyway, last night's episode of Burn Notice was really good! Wow. Thats more like it. Personally, I have to say, this season over all has been very weak. Mostly do to the new guy, Jesse. He's just been breaking up the whole team dynamic. Also, the actor playing him is not a good actor at all. Least favorite character this summer? Yes indeed!

So, seeing the character go bad is good imo. Though, I'm kind of afraid that he might go good again and rejoin the team and be a cast member next season. *shivers* NO! Please no. If he goes good again, just let him get his old job back or something. Or better yet just kill the character off! lol. They killed Micheal Shanks BN character off and that character was a lot better imo. I think that would be the best way to go with Jesse.

Well, that said, cool episode. Shocking cliffhanger too. I'm hoping the next half of the season, in November, is better.

DF2506

Up until this season Brenda's phone on The Closer had the very obious T-Mobile ringtone. Product placement is a fact of TV.

[Ronald Bryan]

I noticed the Sienna, but it seemed pretty brief. They yakked about it a lot when he got it, then it was mentioned a lot less gaudily in the next episode where it was lent to Kharma so she could get home. What bugged me more about that whole deal was how in Season 1, Evan was given a sports car! Okay, HANK was given the sports car, but he passed it on to Evan who didn't have a ride of his own. I don't recall it being trashed/stolen/whatever in the final episodes of Season 1, or in Season 2, so... what happened to it? Season 2 begins right after Season 1 ends, so it's only been a couple weeks since he got the sports car, then went on about buying a Jaguar or whatever, and wound up with the Sienna.

I don't remember any standout product-placement for Psych, though it may have been masked by enough riffing by Shawn & Gus that I was oblivious.

Except for the Snickers bars in last night's episode... :biggrin:
Evan sold the sports car at the beginning of this season when the company was bankrupt.

[DF2506]

I was gonna mention Smallville, though I don't remember the gum episode? The standouts were in the early seasons, when they had Remy Zero perform at a Smallville High dance and Pete Ross name-checked them in a most painful way, and the king of offenses was the promotion of the Smallville CD "Talon Mix" within an episode.

Oh the gum episode is FAR worse than any of that. Or any of the other things any of us have mentioned imo.

The episode in question: A stride gum factory is somehow exposed to Kryptonite and Clark's best friend, Pete Ross, chews some stride gum and gets super powers! Nope, I'm not making this up. Go look it up if you don't believe me! lol. Yep, a very low-point in Smallville's history...

Anyway, back to Burn Notice, can't wait till November. OF course, we know Mike is not going to die, but I wonder what's going to happen to the book. Also, will Jesse rejoin the team (hope not!) ???

DF2506

[Anna]

Oh the gum episode is FAR worse than any of that. Or any of the other things any of us have mentioned imo.

The episode in question: A stride gum factory is somehow exposed to Kryptonite and Clark's best friend, Pete Ross, chews some stride gum and gets super powers! Nope, I'm not making this up. Go look it up if you don't believe me! lol. Yep, a very low-point in Smallville's history...

Anyway, back to Burn Notice, can't wait till November. OF course, we know Mike is not going to die, but I wonder what's going to happen to the book. Also, will Jesse rejoin the team (hope not!) ???

DF2506


Michael isn't; but Ausiello says that a "major" character will be killed off this winter.

[Stressfactor]

Oh the gum episode is FAR worse than any of that. Or any of the other things any of us have mentioned imo.

The episode in question: A stride gum factory is somehow exposed to Kryptonite and Clark's best friend, Pete Ross, chews some stride gum and gets super powers! Nope, I'm not making this up. Go look it up if you don't believe me! lol. Yep, a very low-point in Smallville's history...

Anyway, back to Burn Notice, can't wait till November. OF course, we know Mike is not going to die, but I wonder what's going to happen to the book. Also, will Jesse rejoin the team (hope not!) ???

DF2506

We know Michael is "safe" somewhat but there *are* a couple of 'cliffhanger' style questions -- like who will get to him first -- Vaughn or Fi and Sam? If Vaughn gets to Michael first then who knows how Mike will get out of it... or what he might have to do to get out of Vaughn's clutches.

Even if Fi and Sam get to Mike first -- well, he's lost a lot of blood and this is going to take more than just the little bit of sewing up Mike did to Fi's shoulder earlier -- they'll almost have to take Mike to a hospital and hospitals are required to report bullet wounds so he'd be stuck trying to squirm out of that one too.

But yeah, seeing how well Donovan played the shooting scene really increased the drama. I was sitting there going "Oh my God, Michael got shot! Really, REALLY shot!" As opposed to the 'oh the bullet just nicked me' kind of shot that the characters usually get.

[Farealmer]

Michael isn't; but Ausiello says that a "major" character will be killed off this winter.
I am scared for Sam now.

[Vidocq]

Michael isn't; but Ausiello says that a "major" character will be killed off this winter.

It's so going to be Jessie. They need Sam for the Nerd cred, Fi for the sex appeal and Micheal is the protagonist.

[Serik]

"Chuck Finley is forever!"

[Red Lotus]

I don't remember any standout product-placement for Psych, though it may have been masked by enough riffing by Shawn & Gus that I was oblivious.

Except for the Snickers bars in last night's episode... :biggrin:

The Psych one was when they were working with the two old ex cops and they opened up a locker and there was bag of peanuts in it and it was the same one that was sponsoring the show.

I am scared for Sam now.

It's so going to be Jessie. They need Sam for the Nerd cred, Fi for the sex appeal and Micheal is the protagonist.

When they first brought Jessie on the show the fist thing I thought was, that I hope he wasn't brought on the show to take Sam's place.

[StoneGold]

Mike's not going to die, but I could see him "dying" for an episode or two.

[LordEd1976]

I saw a posting calling for extras to play mourners and a priest. That was almost a month or so ago. What this tells me is that the death is not a fake-out. That rules out Mike being "killed" by Vaughn. If I had to call it, I'd say its either going to be Jessie or Maddie.

[Farealmer]

I saw a posting calling for extras to play mourners and a priest. That was almost a month or so ago. What this tells me is that the death is not a fake-out. That rules out Mike being "killed" by Vaughn. If I had to call it, I'd say its either going to be Jessie or Maddie.
No way is it going to be Maddie, Mike's family connections are a big part of this series. And with the exception of the rare times his brother shows his mother is the only connection there.

[StoneGold]

I saw a posting calling for extras to play mourners and a priest. That was almost a month or so ago. What this tells me is that the death is not a fake-out. That rules out Mike being "killed" by Vaughn. If I had to call it, I'd say its either going to be Jessie or Maddie.

Doesn't mean it still couldn't be a fakeout. Mark Twain did it.

[Jared]

They could kill Barry, I suppose. It wouldn't fundamentally change the show.

My best friend insists that it's supposed to be Vaughn who picked up the case at the end. I maintain that it's geographically impossible, unless he's got a jet pack, for him to have gotten there.

I kind of thought Robert Patrick would be the big bad for the season. Oh well, at least he got more than three minutes.

The episode in question: A stride gum factory is somehow exposed to Kryptonite and Clark's best friend, Pete Ross, chews some stride gum and gets super powers! Nope, I'm not making this up. Go look it up if you don't believe me! lol. Yep, a very low-point in Smallville's history...

God, I had nearly pushed that from my memory. I think Chloe was even saying things like "wow, the flavor really does last longer!"

[Stressfactor]

Not only is it goegraphically impossible but also you clearly see Vaughn wearing a tan-ish colored suit while the legs of the guy who picks up the case are wearing black pants and black combat boots.

It's almost certainly one of the 'black t-shirt and sunglasses' brigade but the big question is if it was just one of the random bodyguards who saw an opportunity or if it was actually someone who had infiltrated the group and is actually much higher up or is working for Vaughn or is working for someone else.

And as for who would die.... I dunno, in some ways I could almost see Fi getting killed and Mike having to go through a grief cycle that he's not used to -- not to mention guilt over possibly being the one who got her killed and also guilt that their relationship never really got to a 'stable' stage. The writers could always then introduce someone new to take Fi's place.

Although, admittedly, stuff like that usually only happens when an actor wants out and/or ratings are slipping and the show usually ends up jumping the shark.

NCIS is one of the few shows I know of which has managed to get away with successfully replacing the main female lead... of course what saved them was that Cait wasn't romantically entangled with any of the other members of the team.

[Anna]

Maddie and Fiona are what keeps Michael from becoming Victor or Simon. If Jessie dies, Michael will blame himself.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Maddie and Fiona are what keeps Michael from becoming Victor or Simon. If Jessie dies, Michael will blame himself.

Anhe kinda should. He mishandled the situation, IMO. I wonder if the writers have the balls to make him responsible for Jessie's death (alternately, Jessie could just screw up in a way seperate from Mike).

[Anna]

Anhe kinda should. He mishandled the situation, IMO. I wonder if the writers have the balls to make him responsible for Jessie's death (alternately, Jessie could just screw up in a way seperate from Mike).

Michael would still blame himself for getting Jessie involved in the first place. Maddie and Fi might also blame him.

[Anna]

Entertainment Weekly has a new spoiler person who says
* Michael moves in with his mom.
* Fiona suffers a loss…
* …because of a bold move made by Jesse.
* Something Michael thought was gone forever comes back into his life.

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/11/05/house-dexter-burn-notice-human-target-spoiler-room/

[The Cool Thatguy]

Michael would still blame himself for getting Jessie involved in the first place. Maddie and Fi might also blame him.

Yeah, but Mike blaming himself, and the viewers blaming him, are two different thing ;)

[Anna]

Everyone ready for tonight? :biggrin: