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[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite
03-04-2009, 12:09 PM
What if DC turned the Green Lantern concept into their own version of the X-franchise? This could work out perfectly given the many different Lantern teams and the 'family' aspect of the Corps.

This issue put a lot of focus back on Kyle and Guy, which was a treat. Tomasi said in an interview that he insists on making sure personal aspects of the Lanterns is always present in the book and this one shines with them. I'm also excited to see more panel time with Sodam Yat. He actually feels underused and one-dimensional most of the time. Tomasi fleshed him out during the Superboy-Prime fight, but this is the first time we're really getting back into the character. Large ensemble casts can do that to you, I guess.

The mural scene was great. That old, "everyone together now!" feeling that I love getting.

I really enjoyed the Kyle and Mongul scenes. I enjoyed seeing the Lanterns all work as a team to paint.

I liked the backstory of all the GLC wanting to help prime the location for Kyle to paint even if the visual metaphor was heavy handed. It was kind of touching that no matter what the task, the GLC will try their best to help each other. Seeing the volcanic Lantern wanting to paint because he never had the opportunity to even try on his own planet and one simple activity uniting so many aliens was sweet and well handled.

What's everyone opinion? DC could pull this off if done correctly, especially in regards to the GLC being not only a wide-ranging organization, but a large well-knit community with many different personalities and splinter teams.

HVulpes
03-04-2009, 12:59 PM
Do you mean like X-men now with a hub/mothership book (Uncanny, or Green Lantern Corp in this case) with moon books orbiting it (Green Lantern would be one, Perhaps the Corpse or Alpha Lantern as another or a book like the "Lantern Corps" to focus on those other corpse remaining)?

esc0
03-04-2009, 01:05 PM
or they could do a blue lanterns one about spreading hope or a red lantern one starring Dex Star!!! :redface:


On a serious note, a Sinestro book would be pretty sick :evilsmile:

HVulpes
03-04-2009, 01:11 PM
or they could do a blue lanterns one about spreading hope or a red lantern one starring Dex Star!!! :redface:


On a serious note, a Sinestro book would be pretty sick :evilsmile:

Not sure they could make a single corp book work for each or all of the Roy Biv B Corps, but the Lantern Corp would be the next best thing. One arc could be yellow, another blue, the next violet. It could be an arc involving multiple corps or hybred lanterns. It could be single stories or a massive storyline which flows through the lanterns, perhaps seeing them in the eyes of the different lanterns.

Thoughts?

BBeeryan
03-04-2009, 02:35 PM
It would fail miserably. I know about three X-men that would wipe the floor with the entire GLC single handedly.

Ex_
03-04-2009, 03:25 PM
It would fail miserably. I know about three X-men that would wipe the floor with the entire GLC single handedly.

So? I don't think the idea of a GLC family of books entails them fighting the X-Men, for whatever reason.

West Mantooth
03-04-2009, 03:46 PM
It would be awesome if they could find a way to vary the differences in the sectors. You gotta make each version slightly different. Not just, "The Red Lanterns are extreme!"

thebhamgunslinger
03-04-2009, 03:52 PM
So, if they patterned the Green Lantern books after the X-Men, does that mean that GL would have to suck too?

pryde15
03-04-2009, 03:58 PM
It would fail miserably. I know about three X-men that would wipe the floor with the entire GLC single handedly.

You do realize that this is completely irrelevant, right?

dreyga2000
03-04-2009, 04:21 PM
It would fail miserably. I know about three X-men that would wipe the floor with the entire GLC single handedly.

Okay my curiousity is sparked which X-men are yout talking about?

P.S. I doubt the GL franchise has enough popular characters outside the 4 human GL's that could hold a series on their own... Unless you make Hal or Kyle into Wolverine and put them on every title...

CBikle
03-04-2009, 04:55 PM
Taking this question seriously, I think an X-Men-esque GLC book could possibly work.

It'd have to be more soap-operatic with romantic subplots with some of the GLC and there'd be some effort in somehow making physically-alien characters relatable to readers.

Joe Franklin
03-04-2009, 05:35 PM
Guy Gardner needs a solo ongoing series since he is the one true Green lantern. Don't believe me? Then just ask Guy yourself, and he will tell you the same.:biggrin:

Raker616
03-04-2009, 10:45 PM
No, just no.

[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite
03-04-2009, 10:57 PM
No, just no.

Really? Why not?

Retro315
03-05-2009, 02:22 AM
I'm pretty content with what they're doing, and don't really think that DC's top two books really need to stoop to copying Marvel formulas when they're already kicking ass.

The way it's set up now is so much more fluid and makes so much more sense than even titles like Detective & Batman, or Action & Superman, which raise questions like "wait, where does this arc in Detective fall since so and so OTHER plot is happening in Batman this month?"

GL and GLC are working nearly perfectly as "partner comics", especially given the nature of the Green Lanterns themselves, and how they're split into partners, and so one book mainly features partners Hal and John, and the other Guy and Kyle. Of course, Corps has it's extended family - but then, Corps does NOT have the iconic rogues gallery on Earth that the main title has, your Sharks and Sonars and Hector Hammonds and Black Hands and what not.

Plus, Hal balances his Earth and Space adventures plenty.

That being said ... the idea of a core book and satellite books already happened. It wasn't much more than a year and a half ago that Green Lantern was the core book and GLC and Ion were side-books. It was that way. And then through Sinestro Corps War it evolved into what it is now as a pair of partner books, and it evolved for the better, if you ask me.

Now, if they wanted to add another book starring Von Daggle and R'amey Holl I'd read it. But I theorize sales wouldn't be that great for a book starring a Durlan and a butterfly girl from Pappiliox who were only seen once ever.

If Sinestro got his own book ... actually I could see that. Following Blackest Night, for a while Sinestro goes off the radar, and the Green Lanterns have bigger fish to fry. See Sinestro run around, doing whatever. That could be cool, but I don't think it'd have much lasting power. Still, you could probably squeeze a 12 issue maxi out of Sinestro.

But anyway, "IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT".

Tabernac
03-05-2009, 05:33 AM
Right now the bank says that more books for me will end in tears so I wouldn't be too excited to spend more for more books on the GLC, it would be cool if they had either quarterlies or annuals for other stories going around the 3600 sectors. I like there being two books for Green Lanterns and JLA for John when he isn't hanging out with Hal... not that I read JLA but think that he needs to be somewhere as GL is rather Hal centre at the moment. I can see that changing in a few months though.

MoterCityMongrel
03-05-2009, 05:37 PM
So, if they patterned the Green Lantern books after the X-Men, does that mean that GL would have to suck too?

dawg how u gonna say dat

Pól Rua
03-06-2009, 02:17 AM
D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;8522412']Really? Why not?

So... long, drawn-out, dialogue-heavy soap opera and continuity nerd porn where a bunch of indolent space cops lounge about their mansion moaning about how persecuted and oppressed they are while a blue midget in a wheelchair pretends to be Martin Luthor King?

[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite
03-06-2009, 04:00 PM
So... long, drawn-out, dialogue-heavy soap opera and continuity nerd porn where a bunch of indolent space cops lounge about their mansion moaning about how persecuted and oppressed they are while a blue midget in a wheelchair pretends to be Martin Luthor King?

I didn't mean that the mean the stories had to be the same or anywhere near similar. I meant in how both franchises are structured (taking advantage of the large community and family elements, as well as the various splinter teams) and in the size of their scope within their respective universes (doesn't necessarily mean the same amount of books either).

the Hornet
03-07-2009, 02:16 AM
I am only interested in the 4 Earth Lanterns. So I would keep GL as Hal's book, Corp's as Kyle and Guy's buddy book and add a new book co-starring John in a team up situation with other Earth superheroes.

thebhamgunslinger
03-07-2009, 09:17 AM
dawg how u gonna say dat
haha, I'm just not an X-Men fan, but it was a comment made in jest for the most part. :biggrin:

Name Already Taken
03-08-2009, 05:32 AM
D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;8517835']What if DC turned the Green Lantern concept into their own version of the X-franchise? This could work out perfectly given the many different Lantern teams and the 'family' aspect of the Corps.

What's everyone opinion? DC could pull this off if done correctly, especially in regards to the GLC being not only a wide-ranging organization, but a large well-knit community with many different personalities and splinter teams.

I think JSA might be better suited to that if they could find the proper writers. Johns did a pretty decent job establishing the 'family' aspect of that book. Willingham will likely do a fair job expanding on that while fleshing out characters. Both X-men and JSA have the generational part of it down pretty good. Both are pretty large with the opportunity for a corp team and then maybe a few spin offs if there is enough interest.


GLC and the main title seem fine as is. There are a large variety of characters to choose from for interaction, but the similarities power wise may make it difficult picking out one alien over another.

Just my 2 cents.

Pól Rua
03-10-2009, 03:51 AM
D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;8531830']I didn't mean that the mean the stories had to be the same or anywhere near similar. I meant in how both franchises are structured (taking advantage of the large community and family elements, as well as the various splinter teams) and in the size of their scope within their respective universes (doesn't necessarily mean the same amount of books either).

One of the big problems with the X-Men is that it's the story of a team of heroes, plus sidekicks, students, hangers-on, sometime members, unwelcome houseguests, friends, neighbours, pals, lovers and people who just won't bloody well leave.
They live in a huge compound cut off from the rest of the world and talk amongst themselves.
Everyone they know is either a mutant, finds out they're a mutant, gets killed by a mutant or has a relative who turns out to be a mutant. It's a weird, inward-looking, almost incestuous, certainly isolated world.

As far as I'm concerned, the X-Men franchise is carrying a LOT of needless fat, however, because EVERYONE is somebody's favourite character, we can't ever remove, kill off, or lose any of these weird barnacles or a million geeky voices cry out in agony across the internets.

The Green Lantern Corps needs to take a lesson from this indolent bunch of layabouts and hangers-on like it needs a hole in the head.

TJKernan
03-10-2009, 09:25 AM
One of the big problems with the X-Men is that it's the story of a team of heroes, plus sidekicks, students, hangers-on, sometime members, unwelcome houseguests, friends, neighbours, pals, lovers and people who just won't bloody well leave.
They live in a huge compound cut off from the rest of the world and talk amongst themselves.
Everyone they know is either a mutant, finds out they're a mutant, gets killed by a mutant or has a relative who turns out to be a mutant. It's a weird, inward-looking, almost incestuous, certainly isolated world.

As far as I'm concerned, the X-Men franchise is carrying a LOT of needless fat, however, because EVERYONE is somebody's favourite character, we can't ever remove, kill off, or lose any of these weird barnacles or a million geeky voices cry out in agony across the internets.

The Green Lantern Corps needs to take a lesson from this indolent bunch of layabouts and hangers-on like it needs a hole in the head.


Have you read X-Men lately? They killed off countless people to weed down the hanger-ons substantially and moved to San Fransico and are amongst the people to get rid of that incestuous isolationism.

And the comic has never been more boring, and less enjoyable.

[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite
03-10-2009, 09:59 PM
One of the big problems with the X-Men is that it's the story of a team of heroes, plus sidekicks, students, hangers-on, sometime members, unwelcome houseguests, friends, neighbours, pals, lovers and people who just won't bloody well leave.
They live in a huge compound cut off from the rest of the world and talk amongst themselves.
Everyone they know is either a mutant, finds out they're a mutant, gets killed by a mutant or has a relative who turns out to be a mutant. It's a weird, inward-looking, almost incestuous, certainly isolated world.

As far as I'm concerned, the X-Men franchise is carrying a LOT of needless fat, however, because EVERYONE is somebody's favourite character, we can't ever remove, kill off, or lose any of these weird barnacles or a million geeky voices cry out in agony across the internets.

The Green Lantern Corps needs to take a lesson from this indolent bunch of layabouts and hangers-on like it needs a hole in the head.

Actually, I was thinking of the franchise structure more along the line of the X-Men and it's splinter teams compared to the Green Lantern Corps and it's splinter teams.

Also, if you 'cut the fat' on the GLC, it wouldn't really be the GLC.

Pól Rua
03-11-2009, 12:38 AM
Have you read X-Men lately? They killed off countless people to weed down the hanger-ons substantially and moved to San Fransico and are amongst the people to get rid of that incestuous isolationism.

And the comic has never been more boring, and less enjoyable.

So you weren't reading during the late 90's?

Pól Rua
03-11-2009, 12:40 AM
D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;8554828']Actually, I was thinking of the franchise structure more along the line of the X-Men and it's splinter teams compared to the Green Lantern Corps and it's splinter teams.

Also, if you 'cut the fat' on the GLC, it wouldn't really be the GLC.

I'm not talking about cutting down the GLC. But not every single one of the 3600 members deserves to have centre stage. By all means, a rich and diverse supporting cast is awesome, but nobody's crying out in the darkness for a twelve issue prestige format Xax of Xaos miniseries.

Paul Newell
03-11-2009, 12:56 AM
...nobody's crying out in the darkness for a twelve issue prestige format Xax of Xaos miniseries.
EVERYBODY has been crying out for a Xax of Xaos miniseries!

Now if you had said a Gpaak mini-series...

[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite
03-11-2009, 07:05 AM
I'm not talking about cutting down the GLC. But not every single one of the 3600 members deserves to have centre stage. By all means, a rich and diverse supporting cast is awesome, but nobody's crying out in the darkness for a twelve issue prestige format Xax of Xaos miniseries.

What about the Alpha Lanterns? Or the Green Lantern Corpse (GLC black-ops team)? What about the other colored Lantern teams?

Tabernac
03-11-2009, 09:14 AM
Which is why I would like to see a GL quarterly and annual for stories that are canon but not part of the main story lines in the GL books.

Pól Rua
03-11-2009, 07:37 PM
D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;8556008']What about the Alpha Lanterns? Or the Green Lantern Corpse (GLC black-ops team)? What about the other colored Lantern teams?

I think that all of these are lame ideas.
Honestly, the main thing this multicoloured Lantern nonsense is doing is diluting the awesome of the original idea.
It's like the whole Spider-Man, Venom, Carnage, Toxin, Anti-Venom thing.
It's basically the same idea being mined to death until we're choking to death on it's interminable crapulence.

Raker616
03-11-2009, 08:48 PM
Except for the fact that Geoff has been planning this for years and isn't just creating these different Corps because he's bored. Evertything that happens in the GL universe has a purpose and so far the different Corps have been awesome. If you don't like them that's fine but to go to the other side of the fence is silly when GL has been a great read month in and month out.