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Tilt
03-01-2009, 04:59 AM
I'm curious how people here feel about the offerings of the X-Office in general, as so many on this board have criticism regarding character choices, plots, writing, artwork, editorial influence on creators....just everything. How happy with the products hitting shelves are you currently?

ExodusCloak
03-01-2009, 05:03 AM
Very happy. I'm seeing less of certain characters who have been around for a while but who I haven't warmed up to in the last 15 years and probably will never warm up to...as well as seeing more A-listers who I enjoy reading about and obscure/newer characters who I could potentially warm up as well as an integration into the Marvel Universe.

Now where's this poll?

tornshattered
03-01-2009, 05:05 AM
I only enjoy X-Men-Legacy. Not so happy about everything else. Avengers are way more interesting for me now...

Beni
03-01-2009, 05:16 AM
I like about 75% of the X-books right now. I do not think that is exact but closest.

metalgorgomon
03-01-2009, 05:46 AM
Currently.. I'm enjoying X-Force and X-Factor the most.
Not so much with the other titles (with the exception of Uncanny Annual #2)

RickyD410
03-01-2009, 05:52 AM
I'm loving X-Force and X-Factor right now. I'm reading X-Infernus, but not enjoying it as much as I thought I would. I'm following Uncanny, because its important to the X-World, but not buying it. I'm not paying attention to Legacy right now. I hated Young X-Men at first, but I'm following this current arc and it looks good. I hate Wolverine, so any title with his name on the cover gets ignored. I'm ignoring Cable (don't care about him or his baby). I also don't bother with any title that doesnt affect the current continuity. I also dont do Astonishing, because it never comes out, and I dont like the art.

So I guess that's.. 25%? I guess? Thats kinda lame if I'm being honest. I wish I enjoyed more books. But eh, what can ya do? If Uncanny actually starts using its "rotating cast" concept as opposed to "rotating wallpaper" then maybe I'll start buying it again. And if Legacy changes to something fun, then I'll try that too.

chickrockguitar
03-01-2009, 06:32 AM
X-Force and X-Factor are the only two I read right now.

Cable, I'll read for the moment - Missiah War etc. Uncanny, Legacy, Astonishing, no. Some X-minis I get. Worlds Apart was good. I enjoyed NYX. And some one shots.

Omega Alpha
03-01-2009, 06:46 AM
I'm really enjoying:

X-force
X-factor
Wolverine

Ambivalent, but enjoying slightly more often than not:
Cable
Uncanny
Astonishing

Not enjoying or not even bothering anymore with:
Legacy
Wolverine Origins
New Exiles
Young X-men

FemGeek
03-01-2009, 06:48 AM
I only really get X-Force and X-Factor (and Deadpool, is this a true X Book?), but I am 100% happy with them. When I pick up a different book the odd time, I'm also pretty happy with it. No complaints from me.

Jack Flash
03-01-2009, 07:29 AM
X-Factor suck balls.

Legacy is boring.

Uncanny is fun.

X-force rocks.

I am loving X-Infernus.

Stephen Moreno
03-01-2009, 07:34 AM
I like about 75% of the X-books right now. I do not think that is exact but closest.

I'm on this level. I love Uncanny X-Force and the other ongoings are fun as well. I love the Manifest Destiny and Messiah storylines.

The only one is X-Factor the storyline is ok but the writer is immature and turns me off the title. If he acted like a professional I would be more inclined to read it.

marvell2100
03-01-2009, 07:42 AM
Maybe if I knew what they're actually trying to do with the X-books(Legacy and Uncanny) I would enjoy them more but they seem to be meandering. I brought a few X-Factor trades and they seem to be good. I think I'll buy a CB-MI13 trade and pick up the current arc as it seems interesting with the return of Dracula. I haven't read Wolverine in ages so I don't know what's up with him but I will give his new book a try. Cable and X-Force will probably wind up being trade books for me. In general I'm at around 50% at feeling the love.

Jack Flash
03-01-2009, 07:43 AM
I'm on this level. I love Uncanny X-Force and the other ongoings are fun as well. I love the Manifest Destiny and Messiah storylines.

The only one is X-Factor the storyline is ok but the writer is immature and turns me off the title. If he acted like a professional I would be more inclined to read it.

I'm about 75% too I think. I've loved Manifest Destiny and the Messiah storylines!

Agamemnon
03-01-2009, 07:47 AM
I only really get X-Force and X-Factor (and Deadpool, is this a true X Book?), but I am 100% happy with them. When I pick up a different book the odd time, I'm also pretty happy with it. No complaints from me.
Loving X-Factor and X-Force and happy enough with Wolverine. Everything else is a mess.

Mitteloss
03-01-2009, 07:49 AM
OK...

X-Force- A little too dark for my liking, but it's still great.

Uncanny X-Men- Mediocre. It has a few good moments and I really want to like it, but every time I read it, it's just that, mediocre.

X-Men: Legacy- Still boring and slow. This Rogue arc has really dissapointed me so far.

X-Factor- Last time I read it was an OTT mess. Dropped it.

That's 25%.

I miss 2006/2007.

The Cosmic (including Kingbreaker) and Avengers titles are SO much better now. I started picking some of them up last month and they were so refreshing.

darknessatnoon
03-01-2009, 07:51 AM
I warmed to Professor Carey's work the moment Emma slapped Xavier across the face. It only got better when Xavier locked Juggs in a box. Plus, Danger and Claudine!

I have to say that Legacy and X-Force are the only titles that please me.

Uncanny is stale and boring and more than a little offensive. I'm really not a fan of X-Factor. Never have been, unless you count the Mystique/Forge/Val Cooper era, and even then it had Guido dragging it down for a while. I did like Young X-Men, but it's gone so I am not counting it.

I'd say 50%

marvell2100
03-01-2009, 07:53 AM
The Cosmic (including Kingbreaker) and Avengers titles are SO much better now. I started picking some of them up last month and they were so refreshing.

I'd agree with you. The Avengers and cosmic stuff has really been top notch imo. The biggest thing that has my interest with the X-books right now is Emma's involvement with the Cabal and how that plays out. I'm not Emma's biggest fan but right now she is the drawing interest. Also Colossus and his somewhat new attitude.

RickyD410
03-01-2009, 08:13 AM
[B]Maybe if I knew what they're actually trying to do with the X-books(Legacy and Uncanny) I would enjoy them more but they seem to be meandering.
Thats exactly how I feel as well.

I brought a few X-Factor trades and they seem to be good. I think I'll buy a CB-MI13 trade and pick up the current arc as it seems interesting with the return of Dracula.
Definitely do it! I love CB&MI13! Its my favorite book right now. Buy the trades and jump on right now!!


Uncanny X-Men- Mediocre. It has a few good moments and I really want to like it, but every time I read it, it's just that, mediocre.
Thats how I feel. I really want to like Uncanny, but every time I read it I just feel like its not quite right.


X-Factor- Last time I read it was an OTT mess. Dropped it.
Whats OTT?

Mitteloss
03-01-2009, 08:18 AM
I'd agree with you. The Avengers and cosmic stuff has really been top notch imo. The biggest thing that has my interest with the X-books right now is Emma's involvement with the Cabal and how that plays out. I'm not Emma's biggest fan but right now she is the drawing interest. Also Colossus and his somewhat new attitude.

To be honest, Mighty Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy are the only two non X-related titles I've been buying regularly since the start of 2009, but I can already see there's stark difference.

For the past 7 years I've generally stuck only to the X-books (with the exception of Thunderbolts), and from an X-reader's POV, I've been super-impressed with what I've seen so far from GoTG and MA. But scrolling through the responses of more seasoned MU fans, they're nowhere near as enthusiastic about them as I am. What does that say?

marvell2100
03-01-2009, 08:28 AM
To be honest, Mighty Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy are the only two non X-related titles I've been buying regularly since the start of 2009, but I can already see there's stark difference.

For the past 7 years I've generally stuck only to the X-books (with the exception of Thunderbolts), and from an X-reader's POV, I've been super-impressed with what I've seen so far from GoTG and MA. But scrolling through the responses of more seasoned MU fans, they're nowhere near as enthusiastic about them as I am. What does that say?

I was always more of an Avengers fan than X fan so lean more towards the Avengers group. I guess what draws me to the A books is that even tho' the titles are uniquley distinct, there is an underlying thread that connects them all, some sort of eventuality that is expected to happen and that binds them. Right now, I don't sense that with the X-books. Sure, they each have an identity but there seems to be nothing binding them together imo. Same with the cosmic stuff. The Annihilation Conquest united the Cosmic books and continues to tie them together while King breaker is the new thread that continues Annihilation. The Messiah Complex I assume was supposed to do the same for the X Books. It may have started out that way but it seems to be dragging down. Messiah War is supposed to get it going again but will it really have any impact? I hope so because the X-Books could really use a jolt.

marvell2100
03-01-2009, 08:29 AM
Definitely do it! I love CB&MI13! Its my favorite book right now. Buy the trades and jump on right now!!


How many trades do they have?

Mitteloss
03-01-2009, 08:34 AM
Whats OTT?

The debacle in X-Factor #39.

Either way, it was... rather dull beforehand. I actually enjoyed the arc following Messiah Complex for all the great character moments, but since Stroman started, it went downhill.

Mitteloss
03-01-2009, 08:46 AM
I was always more of an Avengers fan than X fan so lean more towards the Avengers group. I guess what draws me to the A books is that even tho' the titles are uniquley distinct, there is an underlying thread that connects them all, some sort of eventuality that is expected to happen and that binds them. Right now, I don't sense that with the X-books. Sure, they each have an identity but there seems to be nothing binding them together imo. Same with the cosmic stuff. The Annihilation Conquest united the Cosmic books and continues to tie them together while King breaker is the new thread that continues Annihilation. The Messiah Complex I assume was supposed to do the same for the X Books. It may have started out that way but it seems to be dragging down. Messiah War is supposed to get it going again but will it really have any impact? I hope so because the X-Books could really use a jolt.

That's exactly how I feel, especially about the X-books all needing an underlying plot thread that will connect them together.

When reading Avengers, you know that the storyline is going somewhere and there's a sense of co-ordination, but with the X-books since Messiah Complex, the storyline has been aimlessly dragging along.

It seems like Cable/X-Force/Uncanny X-Men/Dark Reign have been trying to build some sort of connection, but it isn't really working.

sneggz
03-01-2009, 08:46 AM
How many trades do they have?
2. The SI stuff, and then Hell Comes to Birmingham. Dont know if the second one is out yet.

Prodigy55
03-01-2009, 09:22 AM
I love X-Force and the various minis, especially X-Infernus.
X-Factor is good, but it's just too sad for me :(
I'm not interested in Legacy or New Exiles.
Young X-Men was annoying, but Dust was great in it.
Uncanny is not great, but getting better.

Oh, and Cable is good.

Later this year it will hopefully get better, with the New Mutants series and Uncanny X-Men: First Class.
So I would say maybe 50%.

Hi-Fi
03-01-2009, 09:38 AM
X-Force is amazing.
Legacy is great.
X-Factor is good read.
Cable is entertaining.
Wolverine First Class is fun.
Wolverine is enjoyable.
Astonishing X-Men is there.
Young X-Men is ok.
Uncanny X-Men is barely ok.
Wolverine Origins is not ok.
X-Infernus is (bad) fanfic.

.LuckyStar.
03-01-2009, 10:15 AM
I feel like Messiah Complex has ruined every X-Book. X-Force was the only good coming from it. It's my favorite book, yes. <3

X-Men Legacy: I've enjoyed for the first 8 issues but then it got old real fast. Xavier is the boring though I'm really liking Rogue's arc. I hope this new direction to be a little more exciting.

Uncanny X-Men: It's sloooowly improving. The Annual was a fine example of what Fraction can do. I feel like the Sisterhood arc is gonna be the turning poin. It's now or never.

Astonishing X-Men and Young X-Men: Hit or miss.

X-Factor: Couldn't care less. Boring characters.

Oh and Worlds Apart, Kingbreaker, Manifest Destiny and X-Infernus have all been more enjoyable than the Core books!

RolandJP
03-01-2009, 10:19 AM
75% pleased..if only to not say 100%..cause that would make it seem as tho Ive lost all objectivity.

MuhollandDriver
03-01-2009, 10:19 AM
i had a hard time answering this.

i was going to go with 50%...but then i honestly looked at my opinions on each book...

Uncanny.....bad!.....our flagship has been a letdown. The "rotating cast" concept is a joke, the characterization is often thin, and the art by Land is really hard to get past. Plots are uninteresting, and really seem to just meander. i also find the entire series a tad sexist. When the last issue came out with all the other titles, it was the worst one. Even Young X-Men was much better that week. The series continues to leave a bad taste in my mouth.

Legacy...OK..... This one is a mixed bag for me. The intelligence and craftsmanship from the writer is noted. The research into the X-Men's very long, often convoluted history is also appreciated. Nonetheless, the series hasn't stoked my complete interest. The entire Claudine plot failed to captivate me (sorry, fans!). At this point, i am just excited to see it morph into its new form, whatever it might take (hopefully not a starjammers sequel).

Astonishing...bad!...This title by far feels the slowest and most isolated of the bunch. This title needs a purpose beyond being a toy for a famous writer to play with. How does it fit with the rest of the books? When the fun character beats happen, it is appreciated. Still, it never makes up for a slow, uninteresting plot that feels multiverses away from the X-World. Hopefully the pace will catch up. The constant delays are also annoying. i don't care how famous these people are. Get with the program. i realize a bad rating might feel a bit harsh for a premiere title..but the only thing it has going for it are the fun character beats that happen here and there. That doesn't carry a comic.

Cable...OK....i am really only reading this to find out more about the Messiah Baby. Sometimes an issue will have an interesting thing or two going on. Without the plot of the messiah baby, i don't think i'd honestly care what was going on. i've never been a fan of sci-fi pulp. Nonetheless, it moves with more purpose than Uncanny and Astonishing, and it rarely offends.

Young X-Men...bad!......*sighs*.....this comic has had a couple of truly inspired issues and inventive ideas. The last issue was actually one of my favorite reads that week. Nonetheless, it cannot make up for the infamous first arc, for "cuz" lingo, plot devices that make no sense, and.......*drumroll*....the phoenix tattoo.
Part of me didn't want to give it a bad rating, but i believe it deserves it. Nonetheless, at least it failed in an over-the-top, fierce way! Unlike many of the other X-titles, it is also never dull for a second. i hope the promising elements of this title (Greymalkin, Cipher, Dust, Anole, Rockslide) find homes.

X-Factor .... Good!....it took me awhile, but i am finally feeling this series. The characterization and plots are unique, and the surprises are spot on. It also takes risks...which is appreciated. Bravo.

X-Force....Good!...probably my current favorite. The title has verve, spice, style, and great characterization. It takes risks, has a voice of its own, and the art is consistently wonderful. This and X-Factor are the only comics that give me a rush when i close them.

As for the minis...Manifest Destiny was a mixed bag, Storm's mini had me until the very end, X-Infernus had two strong issues, but i need to wait for the conclusion to judge.

Two satellite titles leaving the core titles in the dust. Yep....that rounds to about 25%.

*sighs*

Lately i am reading Avengers comics. i have never been into them. It is so odd....i am enjoying The Avengers more than the X-World.

Hopefully The New Mutants and the next form of Legacy will rev things up.

Imraith Nimphais
03-01-2009, 11:06 AM
i had a hard time answering this.

i was going to go with 50%...but then i honestly looked at my opinions on each book...

Uncanny.....bad!.....our flagship has been a letdown. The "rotating cast" concept is a joke, the characterization is often thin, and the art by Land is really hard to get past. Plots are uninteresting, and really seem to just meander. i also find the entire series a tad sexist. When the last issue came out with all the other titles, it was the worst one. Even Young X-Men was much better that week. The series continues to leave a bad taste in my mouth.

Legacy...OK..... This one is a mixed bag for me. The intelligence and craftsmanship from the writer is noted. The research into the X-Men's very long, often convoluted history is also appreciated. Nonetheless, the series hasn't stoked my complete interest. The entire Claudine plot failed to captivate me (sorry, fans!). At this point, i am just excited to see it morph into its new form, whatever it might take (hopefully not a starjammers sequel).

Astonishing...bad!...This title by far feels the slowest and most isolated of the bunch. This title needs a purpose beyond being a toy for a famous writer to play with. How does it fit with the rest of the books? When the fun character beats happen, it is appreciated. Still, it never makes up for a slow, uninteresting plot that feels multiverses away from the X-World. Hopefully the pace will catch up. The constant delays are also annoying. i don't care how famous these people are. Get with the program. i realize a bad rating might feel a bit harsh for a premiere title..but the only thing it has going for it are the fun character beats that happen here and there. That doesn't carry a comic.

Cable...OK....i am really only reading this to find out more about the Messiah Baby. Sometimes an issue will have an interesting thing or two going on. Without the plot of the messiah baby, i don't think i'd honestly care what was going on. i've never been a fan of sci-fi pulp. Nonetheless, it moves with more purpose than Uncanny and Astonishing, and it rarely offends.

Young X-Men...bad!......*sighs*.....this comic has had a couple of truly inspired issues and inventive ideas. The last issue was actually one of my favorite reads that week. Nonetheless, it cannot make up for the infamous first arc, for "cuz" lingo, plot devices that make no sense, and.......*drumroll*....the phoenix tattoo.
Part of me didn't want to give it a bad rating, but i believe it deserves it. Nonetheless, at least it failed in an over-the-top, fierce way! Unlike many of the other X-titles, it is also never dull for a second. i hope the promising elements of this title (Greymalkin, Cipher, Dust, Anole, Rockslide) find homes.

X-Factor .... Good!....it took me awhile, but i am finally feeling this series. The characterization and plots are unique, and the surprises are spot on. It also takes risks...which is appreciated. Bravo.

X-Force....Good!...probably my current favorite. The title has verve, spice, style, and great characterization. It takes risks, has a voice of its own, and the art is consistently wonderful. This and X-Force are the only comics that give me a rush when i close them.

As for the minis...Manifest Destiny was a mixed bag, Storm's mini had me until the very end, X-Infernus had two strong issues, but i need to wait for the conclusion to judge.

Two satellite titles leaving the core titles in the dust. Yep....that rounds to about 25%.

*sighs*

Lately i am reading Avengers comics. i have never been into them. It is so odd....i am enjoying The Avengers more than the X-World.

Hopefully The New Mutants and the next form of Legacy will rev things up.

MD, you have basically said exactly how I feel towards the x-world at the moment. I only buy/read X-Force now, not including the current minis...(I picked up X-Factor for the last two issues but...I was terribly underwhelmed...the baby-dupe plot and explanation was indeed interesting and shocking, but not really in a good way, imo...so i'll be dropping it...again)...So, I guess I am less than 25% happy...and like you, I too am looking forward to wot the NM and Legacy titles will bring to the table, but for now, I am a Thor/BP/Iron Fist/Nick Fury fan.

Prodigy55
03-01-2009, 11:08 AM
when x-men: forever comes out, i will be 100% satisfied with everything.

Novaya Havoc
03-01-2009, 11:18 AM
when x-men: forever comes out, i will be 100% satisfied with everything.

This is my sentiment.

Right now, I am only enjoying X-Force.

Joe Acro
03-01-2009, 11:55 AM
As of March, here are the minis and ongoings Marvel is putting out that are X-Men related.

Astonishing X-Men
Cable
Uncanny X-Men
Wolverine
wolverine: First Class
X-Factor
X-Force
X-Infernus
X-Men: First Class Finals
X-Men: Kingbreaker
X-Men: Legacy
X-Men Noir
X-Men: The Life and Times of Lucas Bishop
Young X-Men

And of them, I read:

Astonishing X-Men
Wolverine: First Class
X-Infernus
X-Men: Kingbreaker
X-Men Noir

5/14 is about 35%. So, I voted for the 25% option.

Jack Flash
03-01-2009, 12:11 PM
Joe Acro is a round-downer

Joe Acro
03-01-2009, 12:15 PM
Joe Acro is a round-downer
Only in this case!

35 is closer to 25 than it is to 50.

drwho
03-01-2009, 12:15 PM
X-Force is really the only good action x book, but not due to the stories. Its better more due to the characterization and the villains used. They just are used horribly wrong. Im done with all x books. Xfactor also tends to be good but cant bunch it in with the rest.

Brother Justin Crowe
03-01-2009, 12:19 PM
when x-men: forever comes out, i will be 100% satisfied with everything.

Amen. Right now, I only read Wolverine and Astonishing X-Men, and I'm dropping Wolverine once "Old Man Logan" is done.

The Sword Is Drawn
03-01-2009, 12:23 PM
I still get genuinely enthused by X-Force and X-Factor. Legacy I like. Astonishing is okay.

Cable? Not much happening. Maybe this crossover will give it the boot up the arse it needs.

Uncanny? Currently dull as dishwater. No direction. No purpose. Almost no point. The San Francisco move was a big fail in my opinion.

New eXiles? A big mess of continuity conflicting stuff which didn't really go anywhere.

Young X-Men? Totally mishandled.

Diablito
03-01-2009, 12:25 PM
I dropped comic books last year, and right now I have a sort of trivial interest in only X-Force, and some aspects of Uncanny (only Doctor Nemesis, lmao). I guess that makes me about 0 % satisfied. Ever since Messiah Complex, my favourite book (Adjectiveless X-Men) lost its magic touch; Legacy is a snoozefest.

I do, howeover, pick up the odd issue of X-Force. Wooh, techno-Caliban.

Jack Flash
03-01-2009, 12:29 PM
it's not an X-Book, but Cap Britain is also super level of lame these days. It lost all it's momentum and is more scattered than Uncanny could ever be.

4sake
03-01-2009, 12:30 PM
Well I read/buy about all X-related comics lol.

100%enjoyed
X-men : Worlds Apart

98-95% enjoying:
X-Force
X-Men: Legacy
Secret Invasion: X-Men #1-4
X-Factor


85% enjoying:
Uncanny (Pixie brought it down from 90/95 area for me)
Cable (the lack of of the book not being called Bishop & Cable or vise verse brought it & the lack of showing take Bishop could be )
Iceman/Mystique : Manifest Destiny
X-Men : X-Infernus
X-Men :Manifest Destiny (Colossus,Boom-Boom, Juggernaut, Nightcrawler & Emma Frost stories)

75-80% enjoying:
X-Men: Kingbreaker
Wolverine Origins (28-33 are /were great)
X-Men: The Life and Times of Lucas Bishop # 1
Black Panther
X-Men :Manifest Destiny (Mercury, Karma, Dazzler, Graymalkin )


50% enjoying:
Nyx
Wolverine

35% enjoying:
New Warriors
Eternals/X-Men : Manifest Destiny
X-Men :Manifest Destiny (Avalanche)

25% enjoying:
Wolverine: Manifest Destiny (only read the last issue do it was OK)
Astonishing (Ghost box 1&2 were interesting )


2-10 % enjoying:
Young X-men

Look froward to
New Mutants (v3)
Messiah War
War of Kings

I read/brought 1 issue of Captain Britain and MI13 & I'd give it an 80. I would by it regularly If it had at least I or more characters I really like in it.

greenshoes713
03-01-2009, 12:31 PM
Only in this case!

35 is closer to 25 than it is to 50.

You should listen to him he's a Math genius

Joe Acro
03-01-2009, 12:36 PM
it's not an X-Book, but Cap Britain is also super level of lame these days. It lost all it's momentum and is more scattered than Uncanny could ever be.I'm inclined to agree. I liked most of the Birmingham arc, but elements toward the end and elements in the current arc are just making the title seem disjointed.

I'm going to wait to see if it sorts itself out by the end of the current arc, but I have my doubts.


You should listen to him he's a Math genius
I'm really not.

Wind Rider
03-01-2009, 12:54 PM
I'm pretty much floating somewhere near that 25% satisfaction mark right about now which is really heartbreaking as I have never been this disappointed with the direction of X-world.

No real cohesion between the books, character assassinations (i.e. Bishop), A-B list characters becoming background scenery, boring characters getting the spotlight, revolvement around only a few characters, silly filler stories, and great story opportunities being missed. Its like the x-books are just putting out issues and waiting on the next major event/crossover.

To me, it was like the M-Day/Decimation/Messiah Complex was all done for its shock value and to up the stakes against mutant survival, but the aftermath is being handled so poorly. Serious question... With everything seemingly pointing to the eventual annihilation of mutants in the future, does Marvel even care anymore about the X-world?

My big highlight right now is X-Force. This is the one plot that I find intriguing and a great read. This book has me liking characters that I never liked or cared about before. Great character usage, great use of subplots, and great to see old characters popping up, even if some of them die.

I don't read X-Factor and only picked up the last 2 issues for the baby development to see how it would relate to the "no more mutants" event. After seeing that the relevance isn't there, I'm not interested. Seems like possibly good writing, but its not what I'm looking for at the moment.

Astonishing would be my main book, if it came out more. I buy it still, but I can't stand that it takes nearly 2 years to finish a story arc. I like the art, and it's done a far better job of characterization than Uncanny has, even with its missteps -- like Storm being unable to lift Wolverine with her winds... :rolleyes:

I like Legacy. Its nice to see some attempts at fleshing out past history of some of the characters in order to propel them into some future direction. I just hope that this will be worth it once its done. It concerns me that we STILL don't know where Legacy is going after the Rogue arc is done, but so far I'm satisfied.

Never been a Cable reader. I like him okay, but his stories just never warranted me spending money on buying him. I'm somewhat interested now only because I'm ready to see a resolution to the whole House of M/Messiah Complex plot.

For the most part, the minis have been pretty good. World's Apart, I loved. Kingbreaker is a nice galactic level mini. Manifest Destiny had some good, some bad. X-Infernus would be better if the pacing wasn't so erratic -- I like the plot and characters otherwise in that one. Times and Life of Lucas Bishop -- don't care for the art, like the story so far.

I have to add myself to the group of long time X-Men readers who are now starting to read other Marvel books. I've been looking at the Avengers world recently and I find myself liking what I see at the moment. I'm only reading BP for Storm and it seems like this latest reboot may keep me reading it. Looking forward to WoK also to see the Inhumans in action. I've NEVER been interested in any of those worlds before because I got my fill with the X-World that gave me so much to enjoy. Not now. That's kind of sad that its being said, but its truth.

Now, I am very excited to see New Mutants, UXM: FC, and X-Men: Forever coming down the pipe as an X-fan. But let's be honest here. The last 2 books are playing on the emotions of fans who want to see more of their favorite characters when its not just about that for us. We want to see our favorite characters have relevance in the CURRENT events that are shaping the 616's present and future. Otherwise, why are they even around now?

If you still care about your X-fans, Marvel, then get with it.

limerick
03-01-2009, 12:59 PM
I basically order everything X-related every month which can be up to 25 books some months which I confess to be crazy.But generally the quality is good.I am bugged slightly by inconsistencies in character continuation and consistent ressurections(especially unexplained ones).Wolverine in The Avengers is just silly.But although its kind of trendy to knock him ,there are some brilliant Wolverine one-shots being produced.I generally enjoy most of those.

For the continuing titles:
Uncanny---I'm not against Greg Land per se but the writing here is also alittle bit of a letdown.I'm not exactly rushing to read it each month when my monthly mail arrives.
Legacy---It's getting better and it is tieing up some loose ends which is great.Hopefully it will eventually lead to a new team.
Astonishing--The art is pretty to look at but doesn't help move the story along.I'm often left wondering what exactly is happening.Infrequent publication doesn't help either.
Wolverine---"Old Man Logan" is a bit of a rehash of Judge Dredd's "Cursed Earth" story from maybe 25 years ago.
Wolverine Origins---I like it more and more.One of my favoueite books at the moment.
X-force---Brilliant.What Uncanny should be.
X-factor---I love Peter Davidand his storytelling is brilliant.My one criticsm would be this brings nothing to the X-universe.
Exiles----sob!Hard to find anything positive to say so I'll say nothing.
Deadpool----The first few issues have been awesome.If you're looking to give a new book a try ,this the one.Daniel Way is a brilliant writer.Bump him up to Uncanny now!
Young X-men---This didn't hit the ground running and replaced a far superior title which is never good.Looking foward to the return of The New Mutants.

SayOcean
03-01-2009, 01:59 PM
X-Factor suck balls.

Legacy is boring.

Uncanny is fun.

X-force rocks.

I am loving X-Infernus.
I was a tad upset about the diss to Xfactor, but then i noticed the "uncanny is fun" so you must be a skrull so its okay

I cant for the life of me see how anyone thinks uncannys is good right now,

but X factor and Xforce are the only two books that have me excited about the next issue, X infernus is okay im just ready for it to be over so we can ahve the New Mutants book and i cant think of any book that Im liking....that makes me sad. I used to pick up uncanny sometimes but the reviews on this board put me to sleep so i stopped that.

Im enjoying House of Mystery though, and dead irons

long live jean grey
03-01-2009, 02:19 PM
Where is Jean?

Why is Cyclops insane?

Why are Chuck, Magneto, Jean, Gambit, Rogue, Storm, Iceman (most of my faves) all irrelevant, in limbo, or off doing stuff that doesn't really matter?

Why are we going through this "mutants almost extinct" storyline and, if we have to go through it, why is it being handled so poorly?

Messiah Baby. Really?

The Cable book is moving at the speed of a turtle with a broken leg.

What happened to the X-Men being superheroes?



Right now, the X-World is everything I'm not into right now.

I don't need Cyke and Emma hentai and constant angst.

Give me superheroes instead.

I voted other because I'm not quite done with the X-Men yet but the powers that be at Marvel are really working on getting me to that point.

Mia
03-01-2009, 02:32 PM
I'm enjoying X-Force. Astonishing is okay. Can't comment on Uncanny and X-Men since I only subscribe to them in HC/TP format and I have not gotten any of the books since Messiah Complex ended. I don't read X-Factor as I am not fond of Peter David's writing.

Joe Acro
03-01-2009, 04:29 PM
Where is Jean?In the White Hot Room.


Why is Cyclops insane?Is he?


Messiah Baby. Really?Yes. Really.


What happened to the X-Men being superheroes?Well, I imagine they still kinda were during the Skrull invasion thing.

Absolut_Fresh
03-01-2009, 04:51 PM
[QUOTE=long live jean grey;8498458]Why are Chuck, Magneto, Jean, Gambit, Rogue, Storm, Iceman (most of my faves) all irrelevant, in limbo, or off doing stuff that doesn't really matter?[QUOTE]

AMEN!!!

This current incarnation of Uncanny XMen, ie Scott, Emma, Beast, Colossus, Pixie, Warren, and Nightcrawler could not be anymore boring IMO. As others have pointed out the "rotating cast" concept in Uncanny is a joke. if by rotating cast they mean, "everyone EXCEPT Scott, Emma, and Beast stand around and rotate your finger up your ass and do ABSOLUTELY nothing" then yeah, they got it down to a science.

As far as the other characters go....Could Colossus be ANY more boring? i would say, "if he were dead" but, truthfully he was far more interesting when he was dead!! Nightcrawler's feelings of inadaquicy over PIXIE, of all people, is nausiating.

X-Force is the only book i consistantly look forward to reading b/c it is the ONLY book where something consistantly happens each issue. Uncanny is like an old stale pair of underwear....just laying there begging to be washed of its filth and returned to its former glory.

Justin K.
03-01-2009, 04:57 PM
when x-men: forever comes out, i will be 100% satisfied with everything.

I dont see the big whoop about X-men: Forever
Colour me not interested. Not a fan of retcons and flashacks
keep the stories in the present and sometimes the future for me
Let the past be past

Joe Acro
03-01-2009, 04:58 PM
I dont see the big whoop about X-men: Forever
Colour me not interested. Not a fan of retcons and flashacks
It's neither.

It's like an extended What If?

Justin K.
03-01-2009, 05:01 PM
It's neither.

It's like an extended What If?

Still, I'm not interested at all

Babylon23
03-01-2009, 05:40 PM
As a former x-junkie, I'm now down to one title: X-Factor. I'm interested in X-Men Forever and will check it out, but that's it for me. I voted 25% but that's probably a little high.

Jack Flash
03-01-2009, 05:52 PM
I was a tad upset about the diss to Xfactor, but then i noticed the "uncanny is fun" so you must be a skrull so its okay

I cant for the life of me see how anyone thinks uncannys is good right now,

but X factor and Xforce are the only two books that have me excited about the next issue, X infernus is okay im just ready for it to be over so we can ahve the New Mutants book and i cant think of any book that Im liking....that makes me sad. I used to pick up uncanny sometimes but the reviews on this board put me to sleep so i stopped that.

Im enjoying House of Mystery though, and dead irons

I'm a bit upset that you're questioning and dissing my likes and dislikes. X-Factor, for me, has been a big pile of shit since Layla and Rahne left. PAD's just got no more gas in the tank. We're left with crap Strong Guy and worn out Madrox and effing M fawning over the vomit that is mulletboy. It's ok if you don't feel that way. I am not going to cast aspersions on your likes and dislikes.

Justin K.
03-01-2009, 06:20 PM
I'm a bit upset that you're questioning and dissing my likes and dislikes. X-Factor, for me, has been a big pile of shit since Layla and Rahne left. PAD's just got no more gas in the tank. We're left with crap Strong Guy and worn out Madrox and effing M fawning over the vomit that is mulletboy. It's ok if you don't feel that way. I am not going to cast aspersions on your likes and dislikes.

I will have to agree with you on some of those points. M and Longshot should not have been, and we get so many Madrox stories
The series may have started with him, but why not expand? Rictor's pretty much forgotten about ad Guido's a turd that needs polishing.
Madrox to X-Factor is the Emma Frost to the Uncanny X-men, or Wolverine to any team he's on.
Other than that, I only tune in because he's writing characters I like. Many characters have potential, but a lot of it is just focusing on Madrox.