Ed Brubaker would write a great Batman

[Winghead]

The man who laughs is really good, and Bru does crime stuff really well. I think he should get a long term run on Batman. If its even a fraction as good as his Daredevil, Captain America and Sleeper and Criminal series, it could be the best Batman ever. I know he's with Marvel now, but one can dream that after all this Battle For The Cowl madness ends and Morrison gets whatever other self indulgences he wants to explore out of the way, a guy like Ed Brubaker could get a stab at this character.

[GDB]

He already wrote Batman years ago.

[The Beast Of Yucca Flats]

He wrote the character regularly for several years, actually (Batman #582-607; Detective Comics #777-786).

[FanboyStranger]

Brubaker had a fairly substantial run on Batman and Detective Comics about five years ago. It was good, although I'm not really a fan of Scott McDaniel's art (he did the majority of the art on Batman). I think the most notable thing Bru did on the title was introduce the assassin Zeiss, who was a pretty good villain. He also wrote a Deadshot arc, which is always welcome, Deadshot being a personal favorite of mine.

Brubaker's Catwoman run was a lot better, though, especially once Cam Stewart took over the art chores (not that Darwyn Cooke's art is anything to sneer at).

[Winghead]

Are any of his runs available in trade?

[Brian Cronin]

I think Denny O'Neil would also make for a good Batman writer.

-Brian

[DonC]

I think Denny O'Neil would also make for a good Batman writer.

-Brian


Hey, wait a minute. Since when are mods allowed to be sarcastic?

[The Beast Of Yucca Flats]

Are any of his runs available in trade?

Just the "Made Of Wood" arc (in Man Who Laughs' new edition) and the tie-ins to the "Bruce Wayne: Murderer?/Fugitive" crossover.

[nepenthes]

his run on batman isn't as good as his later work on Daredevil or Captain. his Gotham Central is much better

[carabas]

his run on batman isn't as good as his later work on Daredevil or Captain. his Gotham Central is much better
I think a lot of the atmosphere he was going for was spoiled by the excellent yet there completely inapropriate art of Scott McDaniel.

[1WEBHEAD]

As much as I like his work I wouldn't want to see him on Batman anytime soon. I haven't read any of his batman issues but I can't see him bringing that colorful sense of wonder that Gotham City and it's residents have.

[Mia]

I found his run on Batman and 'Tec boring. And after what he did to Daredevil I would rather him not be back on Batman.

[jjdknight89]

he can't write batman. plain and simple.

[Jake V]

I found his run on Batman and 'Tec boring. And after what he did to Daredevil I would rather him not be back on Batman.

What did he do to Daredevil?

[1WEBHEAD]

What did he do to Daredevil?

I'm not speaking for Mia, but I personally thought that since the start of the Mister Fear story, it's been very boring and depressing.

It's not poorly written and the art is great, but it's just not fun or exciting.

[jgiannantoni05]

Dead Reckoning (Detective 777-783) is a great Brubaker Batman arc, my favorite. A rotten shame it has never been collected.
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[The Beast Of Yucca Flats]

Dead Reckoning (Detective 777-783) is a great Brubaker Batman arc, my favorite. A rotten shame it has never been collected.

The wonky art probably didn't really do the story any favors. Maybe if, say, J.H. Williams III had done it, though...


Oh, and I thought I knew that username. Hey; it's 'creepingterror' from DCMB.

[Captain Jim]

It was a great time to be reading comics when Brubaker was writing Batman and Rucka was writing Detective. Personally, I preferred Rucka of the two, but Brubaker's stuff was good too. And I thought he was really improving during his short-lived stint on Detective but, alas, that ended all too soon.

At the moment however, he is not only at Marvel, he is exclusive to Marvel.

[carabas]

IIRC Brubaker was brought in as a last moment replacement for Larry Hama, and needed a bit of time to get his act together. That he wasparthered up with Scott McDaniel, whose art was more suited for themore superheroic Hama stories didn't help.

But yes, Rucka was definitely more on his game back then.

[elias_A]

It was a great time to be reading comics when Brubaker was writing Batman and Rucka was writing Detective. Personally, I preferred Rucka of the two, but Brubaker's stuff was good too. And I thought he was really improving during his short-lived stint on Detective but, alas, that ended all too soon.

I completely agree. Brubaker's last Batman work, "Dead reckoning" and "man who laughs" were a lot better than is previous run (which was also okay).

I remember that he had supposedly completed a final arc that was shelved to be published later; Ryan Sook was intended as artist I think.
A shame that it apparently wasn't finished or DC decided they didn't want it anymore.

I know I'm in the minority, but Catwoman and Gotham Central seem highly overrated to me. (Exception: The brilliant Joker arc in GC.)

[Choppa]

His last issue Batman #607 was the last one of the modern continuity before everything went to hell with HUSH in Batman #608.

Anyone else think Grant Morrison should write Batman?

[carabas]

I'd rather have Brubaker and Rucka back on Tec and Batman (see, sometimes wishes do somewhat come true, after a fashion).

But other than Rucka, I can't think of a writer at DC I'd rather see writing Batman than Grant Morrison.

[jgiannantoni05]

The wonky art probably didn't really do the story any favors. Maybe if, say, J.H. Williams III had done it, though...
I have heard the artist criticized before. Art is secondary to me though. Brubaker deserves to have this story collected.

Hey; it's 'creepingterror' from DCMB.
Hey, nice to see you. Surprised we haven't ran into each other here before with your 4300 posts, maybe my mere 250 posts explain it. But I spend time on this Batman board, and drop in on the Spidey board a bit.
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[Captain Jim]

His last issue Batman #607 was the last one of the modern continuity before everything went to hell with HUSH in Batman #608.


Actually, Brubaker began writing Batman in Detective almost immediately after his run ended in the other title.

[nepenthes]

Anyone else think Grant Morrison should write Batman?

that's a hell of an idea

[Choppa]

Actually, Brubaker began writing Batman in Detective almost immediately after his run ended in the other title.

Well I meant his last issue of Batman. Regardless HUSH still came one issue later and wrecked it all.

[earl]

The story with Lou Moxon, Zeiss and Deadshot is really good.

Scott McDaniels artwork is all about the inker. I actually think his artwork with Brubaker looks way better than some of his later stuff like the backups for Trinity. I think his artwork looks better with an inker with a lighter or dirtier line, some of his art gets really blocky looking with the inks.

[Gerald Keefer]

he can't write batman. plain and simple.

Not true. Brubaker never had a chance to really "write" Batman. He could make no long term plans, editorial constantly had his hands tied and there was a crossover every half dozen issues or so.

You give Brubaker a Batman book with none of the shit he had to deal with before and I would bet it would be the some of the best Batman stories in a long, long time.

[carabas]

Not true. Brubaker never had a chance to really "write" Batman. He could make no long term plans, editorial constantly had his hands tied and there was a crossover every half dozen issues or so.There was one editorially mandated crossover event during the Rucka/Brubaker reigh: two Our World At War tie-in issues. Murderer/Fugitive, that was all Rucka and Brubaker's long-term planning.

Two years worth of character development shoved aside in one issue of Hush, and then Catwoman being targetted as an Identity Crisis victim... no wonder he went over to Marvel.

[nepenthes]

Not true. Brubaker never had a chance to really "write" Batman. He could make no long term plans, editorial constantly had his hands tied and there was a crossover every half dozen issues or so.

You give Brubaker a Batman book with none of the shit he had to deal with before and I would bet it would be the some of the best Batman stories in a long, long time.

what carabas said

plus, The Man Who Laughs. underwhelming :frown:

[kentish]

I recall reading a post by Bru on his old message board I think, where he stated he was not proud of his work on Batman, saying it was just ok. I think he also said he was hindered by all of the crossovers, like Bruce Wayne Fugitive at the time which would always interrupt his stories. He has avoided that with Cap and DD. Now that he has blossomed into a superstar writer, I would love to see him take another crack at Bats.

[carabas]

And for the record, it was some of the best Batman stories in a long, long time. Way better than Morrison's. And I say this as one of the biggest Morrison fans around.

[DubipR]

Scott McDaniels artwork is all about the inker. I actually think his artwork with Brubaker looks way better than some of his later stuff like the backups for Trinity. I think his artwork looks better with an inker with a lighter or dirtier line, some of his art gets really blocky looking with the inks.

Agreed. Ever since McDaniels didn't use Karl Story and went to Andy Owens, his artwork went to shit. His runs on Batman and on Robin were some of his fugliest work since his Daredevil run.

[Libaax]

I have read Brubaker Batman,Tec era and Bru today. There is vastly difference in quality. He has become alot better. Gotham Central,crime books he has always been good at and in marvel he has shown quality with superheroes like Daredevil,Cap America.

I agree that even though i liked Scott Macdaniel in Nightwing. He didnt fit Batman.

If he comes back to DC he should get Batman.

Plus it cant hurt to have a writer who is called the best crime writer in the biz to write atleast Detective comics.

Sadly it will be only a dream as long Marvel keeps him.

Whoever gets Batman after GM it should be more crime oriented as before. Show the detective for once....

[Arksy]

Loeb was brought in at the wrong time i think, i quite enjoyed Hush, however, as a good introductory juvenile yet fun Batman story......But...eh.....wrong time....it was like Loeb either didn't read Brubaker's run or didn't care which was dissapointing, i think the timing of it was very wrong.

[HopeLantern]

Has Mark Miller ever written "Batman"? And was it good? (Or would it be?)

[nepenthes]

Has Mark Miller ever written "Batman"? And was it good? (Or would it be?)

there's a version of Batman in Red Son, a great trade. and yeah he's pretty intense