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nepenthes
02-12-2009, 01:54 AM
It includes the DC Universe#0 pages and Last Rites! I honestly was not expecting both, it makes for a great package. The DC universe bit is a nice little prologue, a very chilling lead in
I'm expecting alot of people might come to a different conclusion about RIP after reading it all in on go. Anyone?
Have to say though the larger format takes a bit of getting used to. I don't think I like it, the artwork loses some of it's appeal when you blow it up. I also hate hardcovers but oh well, as if I wasn't gonna buy this. As soon as I entered the shop today my wallet never stood a chance.
fb1990
02-12-2009, 05:02 AM
Anything by way of extras?
I think I'll only buy it if it has some sketches plus possibly an interview or original proposal or something like that by Morrison.
d newton
02-12-2009, 05:25 AM
Does this have the 2 Robin issues (175, 176) in it?
drinkblatzbeer
02-12-2009, 09:27 AM
why does it include last rites?
Sean Walsh
02-12-2009, 09:44 AM
why does it include last rites?
Because those 2 issues (the 2nd in particular) pretty much explain what happened to Bruce after #681's ending.
Anything by way of extras?
I think I'll only buy it if it has some sketches plus possibly an interview or original proposal or something like that by Morrison.
Yep, sketches by Tony Daniel and thumbnails by Morrison included plus all the variant covers too. It's a great package and i can't wait to sit down and read it all in one sitting. They fixed that confusing Joker colouring / blood spattering mistake on the last page from episode 1 too.
nepenthes
02-12-2009, 02:56 PM
why does it include last rites?
because it's awesome, it's better than RIP itself and it's capstone on part one of the entire run so far....beginning from Morrison first issue, it should all be considered 'RIP' imo.
It does not have any Robin issues. why you would want Robin issues is confounding to me.
pressdarlings
02-12-2009, 03:13 PM
It includes the DC Universe#0 pages and Last Rites! I honestly was not expecting both, it makes for a great package. The DC universe bit is a nice little prologue, a very chilling lead in
I'm expecting alot of people might come to a different conclusion about RIP after reading it all in on go. Anyone?
Have to say though the larger format takes a bit of getting used to. I don't think I like it, the artwork loses some of it's appeal when you blow it up. I also hate hardcovers but oh well, as if I wasn't gonna buy this. As soon as I entered the shop today my wallet never stood a chance.
Wait, this is out already?
jgiannantoni05
02-12-2009, 03:42 PM
It's a great trade. DC Univ #0 was a pleasant surprise. I knew Last Rites was included.
RIP is a great story IMHO, #681 made me realize that. It's a deconstruction of Batman (and a love letter). And it's Morrison's modern take on Batman's wacky Silver Age stories. Just as Morrison wanted us readers to confront and deal with Batman's Silver Age "Black Casebook stories," so too must Batman confront his unexplained adventures (confront his denial) in the form of Hurt, The Devil, Batman's ultimate and last Black Casebook opponent, who preyed on Batman's vulnerabilities (such as Batman's denial of his Casebook stories as having been real). In Morrison's first Batman interviews, he kept saying, what if all these stories happened to Batman, how would that affect him.
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Jake V
02-12-2009, 04:00 PM
Something I don't think anyone pointed out yet, but the price is $24.99. Compare that to the 29.99 that Marvel is asking for the Secret Invasion trade, and the RIP collection is an oversized hardcover, with the same number of issues, and the same number of pages.
Liberty Belle Fan
02-12-2009, 05:04 PM
I'm picking this up on Saturday. I can't wait to sit down over the weekend and read this entire collection. This is a collection at its best.
It's a beautiful item but i do have one complaint - the cover images separate the chapters but the chapters themselves often begin with full page images and it could be confusing and doesn't quite flow right. I think they should've put the cover images at the back to leave us with a continuous story. Personally, i've never liked it when cover images are used without the text anyway, i'd much prefer a facsimile of the full cover, especially with older comics.
Anyway, very minor complaint. 9.9 out of 10 for presentation.
Captain Jim
02-12-2009, 10:38 PM
I knew the Last Rites issues would be included but I think that was a very poor decision. They are incomprehensible apart from Final Crisis. They should have included them in a FC volume instead.
Seraku
02-13-2009, 12:34 AM
indeed, the decision to not add last rites and Beyond to the FC HC is a very bad mistake.
It includes the DC Universe#0 pages .
You know, re-reading this serves as a great forshadowing of what was to come. It also speaks volumes to Batman's level of preparation and the fact that he makes contigency plans for everything. He must have known that whoever was after him would have tried to use a woman to seduce him. So he knew that Jett was more than what she seemed
It's why I love the character, he takes nothing for granted and is alert to everything. It takes a lot of discipline and strength of character to do this.
Choppa
02-13-2009, 08:59 AM
Honestly I agree it shouldn't have had LR. Batman #681 should have been the ending. Now where do the DCU #0 pages come in? In the middle?
LtMarvel
02-13-2009, 09:13 AM
Honestly I agree it shouldn't have had LR. Batman #681 should have been the ending. Now where do the DCU #0 pages come in? In the middle?
They are before the title page/table of contents/credits part
jgiannantoni05
02-13-2009, 01:15 PM
I was fine with LR's inclusion. It belongs in 2 trades. The "burn in hell" epilogue makes it important to RIP, and the Lump story is important to FC. Should ideally be included in RIP trade and FC trade.
It does suck that one has to jump around to follow Morrison's recommended FC reading order, but it's not the end of the world to me.
What is kind of shady is that eventually DC will do a Absolute FC, where all the proper issues are included and their are annotations. And the FC HC people will feel, rightfully so, that they wasted their money.
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nepenthes
02-13-2009, 04:34 PM
I'd be kinda pissed off if Last rites wasn't included. To me it's more essential to RIP than Final Crisis, the whole trade and the story herein would feel pretty lacking without it. It's the finisher on this whole stage of the run.
Super Buddies Forever
02-14-2009, 12:14 AM
After the monthly was published, DiDio explained that the ambiguous ending to RIP was designed so that the collected edition would have a complete ending. So, of course, the collected edition has two issues tacked onto said ending that makes no sense out of the context of the storyline it's tying into.
Oh, DC. Well done as usual.
Liberty Belle Fan
02-14-2009, 09:18 AM
I beleive GM stated several times that if you continue to read the entire story he has planned for Batman that the future trades/comics make these complaints seem to be a non-issue.
Captain Jim
02-15-2009, 06:43 PM
After the monthly was published, DiDio explained that the ambiguous ending to RIP was designed so that the collected edition would have a complete ending.
Didio is full of it. Morrison says that RIP ended the exact way he always intended it to.
So, of course, the collected edition has two issues tacked onto said ending that makes no sense out of the context of the storyline it's tying into.
Assuming you mean FC, you are entirely correct. Furthermore, they have absolutely nothing to do with RIP.
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