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K-DoG7p7
02-08-2009, 02:58 PM
I've been thinking..
Black Lightning Year one is ... awesome.. and if it sells well there i no question that there will be another mini or even an Ongoing.. but can BL support his own series?
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Cayman
02-08-2009, 03:18 PM
It could probably survive a few years. I wouldn't expect it to be a particularly strong seller.
Pink Bat Maxine
02-08-2009, 03:21 PM
Dunno how long it would last, but I'd buy it.
TCJohnson
02-08-2009, 03:28 PM
I probably would not buy it. It seems wrong to have a Black Lightning character why Tony Isabella is on the outs with DC.
K-DoG7p7
02-08-2009, 03:32 PM
I probably would not buy it. It seems wrong to have a Black Lightning character why Tony Isabella is on the outs with DC.

Well.. hate to be this honest about it .. BUT!

He is being a child..

Everything he has complained about they have addressed but he always find something new..
Alt-World
02-08-2009, 03:39 PM
Well he did support his own series for a while, right? So, I don't see any reason why DC couldn't test the waters with a mini-series to gauge the interest first.
TCJohnson
02-08-2009, 03:41 PM
Well.. hate to be this honest about it .. BUT!

He is being a child..

Everything he has complained about they have addressed but he always find something new..

DC has agreed to let him pitch book to them again?
K-DoG7p7
02-08-2009, 03:45 PM
DC has agreed to let him pitch book to them again?

have they ever denied him? if so.. news to me..
but not surprising given that he constantly criticize them for doing what they want with their own characters
Spiffy
02-08-2009, 03:50 PM
Can it CREATIVELY support it? Easily.

Will the market support it enough for it to meet DCs standards as to how many copies they feel they have to sell for something to be labeled as a success? Probably not.
Kevinroc
02-08-2009, 03:59 PM
I suppose it would depend on the creative team. If it follows the standard DC procedure of the last few years, it will have a semi-respectable creative team that is eventually replaced by a much smaller-profile team and will eventually be canceled (see Blue Beetle).
Pink Bat Maxine
02-08-2009, 04:04 PM
Am I the only one who'd like to see some hair on him, though.

I dunno what it is with me, but hair is important.
TCJohnson
02-08-2009, 04:04 PM
have they ever denied him? if so.. news to me..
but not surprising given that he constantly criticize them for doing what they want with their own characters

Tony Isabella was fired off the last Black Lightning series after 8 issues and DC has black listed him since. This was before all the public fighting.
shrike
02-08-2009, 04:06 PM
Tony Isabella was fired off the last Black Lightning series after 8 issues and DC has black listed him since. This was before all the public fighting.

That's crappy, but maybe he should make a character CALLED 'Black Listed'. I smell money in the bank...
shrike
02-08-2009, 04:09 PM
PS I saw in previews BL will get his hair back. Wasn't feeling the 'every african american in the dcu needs to be bald' thing, personally.
K-DoG7p7
02-08-2009, 04:11 PM
PS I saw in previews BL will get his hair back. Wasn't feeling the 'every african american in the dcu needs to be bald' thing, personally.
Its Judd "Mr Stereotype" Winicks fault
Black Atom
02-08-2009, 04:11 PM
I never really cared about Black Lightning and still don't. If I could choose a black hero to get an ongoing, I'd go with Mr. Terrific or Vixen.
K-DoG7p7
02-08-2009, 04:14 PM
I never really cared about Black Lightning and still don't. If I could choose a black hero to get an ongoing, I'd go with Mr. Terrific or Vixen.

Vixen I understand.. but Mr Terrific?

Hell.. Dan even hinted at more Vixen minis this weekend
TCJohnson
02-08-2009, 04:16 PM
PS I saw in previews BL will get his hair back. Wasn't feeling the 'every african american in the dcu needs to be bald' thing, personally.

Agreed...that was bugging me too. I think it was bugging Dwayne McDuffie too...he made a joke about it.
Pink Bat Maxine
02-08-2009, 04:17 PM
Its Judd "Mr Stereotype" Winicks fault

Who else was bald? I can only think of the latest Amazing Man.... Mister Terrif and John Stewart both have hair.
K-DoG7p7
02-08-2009, 04:18 PM
Agreed...that was bugging me too. I think it was bugging Dwayne McDuffie too...he made a joke about it.

One joke? every scene with John and BL john has been making fun of him for it :P
Black Atom
02-08-2009, 04:18 PM
Vixen I understand.. but Mr Terrific?

Hell.. Dan even hinted at more Vixen minis this weekend

I dunno. I just like Mr. Terrific. Even though this current Vixen mini has turned out kinda boring, I'd like to see her in an ongoing.

I've just never really cared this way or that about Black Lightning, though.
TCJohnson
02-08-2009, 04:22 PM
Who else was bald? I can only think of the latest Amazing Man.... Mister Terrif and John Stewart both have hair.

It was Brad Meltzer that had him go bald. It was around the time that a lot of black super heroes at both DC and Marvel was going bald. Mister Terrific was the exception, but John Steward on the cartoon had just gone bald.
K-DoG7p7
02-08-2009, 04:25 PM
Who else was bald? I can only think of the latest Amazing Man.... Mister Terrif and John Stewart both have hair.

point?......
K-DoG7p7
02-08-2009, 04:26 PM
It was Brad Meltzer that had him go bald. It was around the time that a lot of black super heroes at both DC and Marvel was going bald. Mister Terrific was the exception, but John Steward on the cartoon had just gone bald.

Nope..
Judd winick in Outsiders..
Pink Bat Maxine
02-08-2009, 04:46 PM
point?......

Well if most black (male) heroes in the DCU have hair, why say that most don't?

Geez. Point is it wasn't true, for what any of it is worth.
Cayman
02-08-2009, 04:50 PM
Who else was bald? I can only think of the latest Amazing Man.... Mister Terrif and John Stewart both have hair.

Steel comes to mind.

I can think of more Marvel characters than DC ones - Nezhno, Bishop (currently), Luke Cage, Synch...
RachelEvil
02-08-2009, 04:51 PM
I could see such a series getting a somewhat decent run. I'd buy it, if the writing was good enough.
K-DoG7p7
02-08-2009, 04:52 PM
Well if most black (male) heroes in the DCU have hair, why say that most don't?

Geez. Point is it wasn't true, for what any of it is worth.

did I ever say most didn't have hair?

All i said was that Judd "Mr Stereotype" Winick made BL bald .. thats it..
Because .. he did do it and gave him gang tattoos..
Pink Bat Maxine
02-08-2009, 04:57 PM
Oh for the love of mercy. It was only a damn question. I responded to you instead of Shrike by accident. But it was only a damn question.

Jeez.
K-DoG7p7
02-08-2009, 05:01 PM
Oh for the love of mercy. It was only a damn question.

which was directed at me in a manner that made it seem like I had stated that there where a shit load of them..


but all I did was call Judd winick a nickname that i'm gonna use for the rest of my LIFE!
Black Atom
02-08-2009, 05:08 PM
Oh for the love of mercy. It was only a damn question. I responded to you instead of Shrike by accident. But it was only a damn question.

Jeez.

This is neither the time nor the place for "questions"!
TCJohnson
02-08-2009, 05:10 PM
This is neither the time nor the place for "questions"!

Why not?


.....d'oh!
Pink Bat Maxine
02-08-2009, 05:12 PM
This is neither the time nor the place for "questions"!

I thought this was the brief question and answer Period!
section 8
02-08-2009, 08:43 PM
I'll have a white lightning.
Dwayne McDuffie
02-09-2009, 12:22 AM
One joke? every scene with John and BL john has been making fun of him for it :P

I've only done one joke about Black Lightning's lack of hair. Maybe it's happening in another book.
Flamebird
02-09-2009, 12:38 AM
I've only done one joke about Black Lightning's lack of hair. Maybe it's happening in another book.

Do more. :biggrin:

We need some laughs in the DCU.
Lester C.
02-09-2009, 12:42 AM
DC, god bless them, launched a bunch of books with minority and female leads starting when Dan Didio took over and they all crashed and burned. To their credit they haven’t given up yet as minority leads are a part of their team books and are getting minis but I don’t think we will be seeing a minority lead ongoing for quite a while.
the4thpip
02-09-2009, 02:36 AM
I thought this was the brief question and answer Period!

It's a good thing I'm in briefs, then!


Oh, and Tony's last, short lived Black Lightning was soaked in awesome sauce. I was crush when they pulled the plug like they did.
Sean Walsh
02-09-2009, 07:37 AM
Year One's sales have been quite low. In fact, I don't think any of those Year One minis have sold well (above 30K). So probably not.

Which means we'll probably get an ongoing any day now - along with a Didio commitment to see it succeed, atrocious sales that never pick up, repeated hopes that it "helps build the franchise" and then a cancellation blamed to "lack of fan response."