new New Mutants series discussion!

[Victorious]

Finally the rumored new New Mutant series was confirmed by the X-Editors.

So, what/who do you expect to see?
Who would you like to see in the team?
Which creative (art, colorist, writer, etc) team would you like?
Which unfinished/potencial plot would you like to read in the series?
Who would you like to came back?

[Twisted Bliss]

Where/when did they confirm. Have you got a link ?

[Victorious]

I think Cannonball, Karma, Dani, Magma and Sunspot are confirmed members, since they are around in SF. Maybe Boom Boom too. Magik will join after X-Infernus and she’ll deal with her new self in this book, I hope. I think Wolfsbane will join after a story featuring Asgard and where she have been with the wolf prince (hopefully). And I’ve heard Warlock was back too. I would love to see Cypher’s return, I think that was planned in the Young X-Men pages, but since it was cancelled I hope it happens in this book.

And i would like to see some New x-Men in there, at least those who have ties to the original New Mutants (Surge, Elixir, Pixie, etc), since we may not see them anywhere again. Dust, Anole and Prodigy would be cool.

[Victorious]

Where/when did they confirm. Have you got a link ?

in the lastest X-Position, first question: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=19830

[Kid Icarus]

Where/when did they confirm. Have you got a link ?

In the X-position the editors reference the "Upcoming New Mutants" book

[Twisted Bliss]

in the lastest X-Position, first question: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=19830

In the X-position the editors reference the "Upcoming New Mutants" book

Ah ha. Just read it. Thank you both.

[Pach!]

Hmm I think its a good possibility that Cebulski might write the new series. I'm not really a fan of cebulski so I would not buy it I guess. I might give the first issue a try tho.

[Kid Icarus]

Hmm I think its a good possibility that Cebulski might write the new series. I'm not really a fan of cebulski so I would not buy it I guess. I might give the first issue a try tho.

Who would be your dream writer?
My dream artist, as always, is Adrian Alphona

[Twisted Bliss]

The X-editors make reference to the fact the remaing X-teams are an Army. I'd be interested to see how the New Mutants are reformed under this direction. I REALLY think some teammembers may have a problem with this concept.

**looks at Danielle Moonstar**

[Kid Icarus]

The X-editors make reference to the fact the remaing X-teams are an Army. I'd be interested to see how the New Mutants are reformed under this direction. I REALLY think some teammembers may have a problem with this concept.

**looks at Danielle Moonstar**

**Moonstar glares back, reaching for her BOOMSTICK**

[XSE Drake]

WOO HOO!

I win.

And despite the recent debut of Cipher, I am hoping that one of the mutants hinted to be returning from the grave this year is CYpher.

*sigh*

A guy can dream, right?

[4sake]

What I'd like to see from this New Mutants book is

1.That it will be actually X-Men team book because there currently only 1 (X-Force) 2 if U want to Count X-Factor

2. if Cannonball, Moonstar & Karma are going to be in this book then I hope its not some kind of junior team or etc, but that they an actually full fledged X-men team/Squad because Cannonball, Moonstar, & Karma are all currently X-men and they don't need to be push back to the juniors while younger members the likes of Pixie get to be in Uncanny.

3. That this book story & plot lines will not be self contain;& won't in up mattering in the end of the day

4. Some real character development for all the Character in the book & not just standing around & wait for something to react to on panel

5. NO Chris Claremont, NO Marc Guggenheim or Ink or Graymalkin & No bad art lol

6. No stories revolved around Wolfsbane or Warlock till at lest after the first story arc.

7. Roster if it and X-men Squad than I'd like to see :
Cannonball (Co- Team Leader) (the Scott)
Moonstar, (Co-Team Leader) (The Strom/Emma)
Sunspot
Boom Boom
Prodigy (leader in training) (The Hank/Forge/Scott)
Magik
Magma
Surge
Anole

Maybe the Stepford Cuckoos, Mercury, Hellion (if still living hopefully so) Jubilee(the Logan), Dust (if still living hopefully so), or Loa , Gentle & or Rockslide at some point, but not when the book 1st starts off. maybe during or after the 2nd or 3rd arcs..
Pixie if it will get her out of Uncanny

If its a another junior team than :

Sunspot (Co- Team Leader) (The Scott)
Boom Boom (Co- Team Leader) (The Strom/Psylocke)
Prodigy (leader in training) (The Hank/Scott/Forge)
Magma
Magik
Surge
Anole
Hellion
Stepford Cuckoos (The Emma)
Rockslide
Mercury

Maybe Jubilee(the Logan) or, Dust (if still living hopefully so ) or Loa, Gentle or & Match, Pixie if it will get her out of Uncanny
but not when the book 1st starts off. maybe during or after the 2nd or 3rd arcs..

& have Cannonball, Moonstar & Karma as Supporting cast/Guest Stars but who have that have a higher rank/ position in Scott's new X-men/X-Army.

8. for the book to come out on time( every month)

9. Which creative (art, colorist, writer, etc) team would you like?
C. B. Cebulski or Craig Kyle & Christopher or Yost or Mike Carey or Nunzio DeFilippis & Christina Weir as the writer/writers
Giuseppi Camuncoli or Michael Ryan or Mark Brooks or Skottie Young as the artist or artist(s)

Jean Francois Beaulieu as colorist

[Valjean999]

Two words...

Bird Brain.

[darknessatnoon]

Two words...

Bird Brain.

Only if Warlock updated him with a techno-organic virus.

[MartinRedmond]

The X-editors make reference to the fact the remaing X-teams are an Army.

Like Avengers Initiative and all the other books? : / Nooooooooooo

[FemGeek]

Two words...

Bird Brain.

Ew. Only if he gets sucked into a jet engine three panels in.

[blehbeh]

All I ask is that it be a set, focused team of 6-8 mutants that have little or nothing do with the "army" in San Francisco, and as little contact with Cyclops and Emma Frost as humanly possible.

[Beast]

All I ask is that it be a set, focused team of 6-8 mutants that have little or nothing do with the "army" in San Francisco, and as little contact with Cyclops and Emma Frost as humanly possible.
Prepare to be disappointed then.

[Stephen Moreno]

If Cannonball is in it then I'll read it, I like him.

[Icegod]

can't wait. Grew up on the original New Mutants, any and all are welcome to join IMO. Even Gosaymer.

[jarrod]

srsly needz LOCKHEED

[DeniseXfrost]

Tick tick tick Boom!

[jarrod]

I want a mostly grrl team.

-Dani Moonstar (co-leader)
-Karma (co-leader)
-Magma
-Magik
-Boom Boom
-Secret Agent Skids
-Lockheed

[blehbeh]

Prepare to be disappointed then.

I plan on it! But it at least looks like it'll be a book featuring a group of characters we can count on appearing every month...

I'd like to see Tabitha redeemed from her ridiculous Nextwave appearances.

[MartinRedmond]

They should put Duane and Travel on it. It's not like they're being appreciated on Iron Fist anyway. ?:(

[Beast]

Watch it end up being the guy who wrote the Cannonball/Sunspot Mojoverse story.

[Imraith Nimphais]

They should put Duane and Travel on it. It's not like they're being appreciated on Iron Fist anyway. ?:(

Bite yer tongue Martin...I am absolutely loving IF, right now...(I could not stand Aja's art b4)...:biggrin:

[MartinRedmond]

Well din ye should git yuir voice heard lassie! All I read in Iron Fist threads is whinning.

[Gene M.]

I could have sworn my calendar said "2009" when I went to bed last night, but the internet is telling me it's 1986. Lame.

[jarrod]

I could have sworn my calendar said "2009" when I went to bed last night, but the internet is telling me it's 1986. AWESOME.
Fixed that for you. <3 <3

[MasterOdin]

If Cannonball and Majik are on the team, I certainly will be picking up this book.

[yanapryde]

Well...as far as other x-characters being in the New Mutants series, Anole and Hisako and Pixie are all being featured in the Messiah War it seems.

According to Mike Choi's sketches in the free issue I got with my books today, focusing on the new 'it' artists.
Be sure to grab your copy to view the luscious artwork throughout.

My big wish is simple: MAGIK.
Illyana Rasputin, on an X-Team. Preferably this X-Team.
As for who else would be on the team WITH MAGIK?
I'll make special requests for Dani, Sam and X'ian.

[Imraith Nimphais]

My dream New Mutants team:
Leaders: Dani (sans powers...she needs to up her h2h combat, and weaponry skills) and Cannonball (co-leaders). Magik (of course!). Magma. The Cuckoos(are a must have). Anole. Dust. Rockslide.
Written by Yost and Kyle, drawn by Cammuncoli (sic?) w/ guest fill-in art by the one and only Bill Sienkiewicz!

[jarrod]

According to Mike Choi's sketches in the free issue I got with my books today, focusing on the new 'it' artists.
Be sure to grab your copy to view the luscious artwork throughout.
ZOMMFG!!!!


scanz plz!?

[Sugarbombz]

Moonstar
Magik
Sunspot
Boom Boom
Anole
Cipher
Rockslide
Pixie
with only occasional appearances by Cannonball.

While people have said the same for Graymalkin, I think I see the complaints people have for him in Karma. I do not think of her much more as the Vietnamese lesbian who has battled the Shadow King.

As far as Magma goes I much prefer another blonde who has anger and identity issues, Illyana.

[Leirus]

ZOMMFG!!!!


scanz plz!?

I Second !!

SCAAAAAAAAANS

I would be happy just with Yana and Dani, but I am easy to please...

[Sugarbombz]

I could have sworn my calendar said "2009" when I went to bed last night, but the internet is telling me it's 1986. Lame.

Ouch!

But I agree. At least with what we know/assume so far, assume being a key word. I'm hoping for a fresher cast, a good reason for being, and it being something beyond an ode to the past

[MuhollandDriver]

Well...as far as other x-characters being in the New Mutants series, Anole and Hisako and Pixie are all being featured in the Messiah War it seems.

According to Mike Choi's sketches in the free issue I got with my books today, focusing on the new 'it' artists.
Be sure to grab your copy to view the luscious artwork throughout.

My big wish is simple: MAGIK.
Illyana Rasputin, on an X-Team. Preferably this X-Team.
As for who else would be on the team WITH MAGIK?
I'll make special requests for Dani, Sam and X'ian.

Really? i didn't get a free issue!

i thought only X-Force was doing Messiah War.

i honestly wasn't as worried about Anole having a future post Young X-Men...other characters will have a harder time.

You Hellion fans i feel for. That last comment was a doozy!

i want Warlock on the team. i love Warlock. i read him in Nova..still daffy yet grown up and wiser...it was a glass of warm milk to me.

[The Black Guardian]

I could have sworn my calendar said "2009" when I went to bed last night, but the internet is telling me it's 1986. Lame.
Trust me. 1986 > 2009.

[Dusty.]

Who would you like to see in the team?

Cannonball
Dani Moostar
Cipher
Sunspot
Magik
Doop


Which creative (art, colorist, writer, etc) team would you like?

Writer - Chris Claremont
Penciler - Rob Liefeld
Inker - Bob McLeod
Colorist - Laura Villari
Letterer - Tom Orzechowski


I bet it would kick all kinds of ass!

[NielsVanEekelen]

Cebulski is probably the likeliest option as writer (and based on X-Infernus so far, I'm fine with that).

But Jeff Parker has just said on Newsarama that he'll be doing a book (not-yet-announced, so not Exiles) that will make X-fans happy, and X-Men:Legacy is ending soon, so that could theoretically turn into New Mutants.

The art? Too bad Leonard Kirk finally has an ongoing book--he would've killed on New Mutants. Camuncoli is also a good possibility. I hope it's not the guy who did the cover for the New Mutants Saga.

Sam, Roberto, Xi'an and Dani are almost certainly in the cast. Illyana is an absolute requirement for me. Amara is probably likely too, Wolfsbane I'm not sure. Cipher will stay dead--they just gave his name to a new girl. I'm hoping to see Warlock, but in an arc about him, not as a regular, don't think that would work with his most recent developments.

srsly needz LOCKHEED

Hadn't thought of that, but you are absolutely correct.


And for those complaining that we're going back to the 80s--I don't see anyone complaining that the Fantastic Four still have the same members, or whenever Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman are put back in JLA. Some teams just work, and these characters have always been written as close friends.

[Yoel]

Hmmmm...
I'll pick this up if its characters from the original series.
And please, none of the 'New X-Men' crew. I've tried, but I just can't be bothered with them.

They should get Art Adams drawing this. Doubt it will happen, but would be nice!

[Yoel]

And for those complaining that we're going back to the 80s--I don't see anyone complaining that the Fantastic Four still have the same members, or whenever Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman are put back in JLA. Some teams just work, and these characters have always been written as close friends.

That was my favourite part of the original series - the friendship between the characters. It made you feel like you were a part of that group.

[Twisted Bliss]

Who would you like to see in the team?

Cannonball
Dani Moostar
Cipher
Sunspot
Magik
Doop


Which creative (art, colorist, writer, etc) team would you like?

Writer - Chris Claremont
Penciler - Rob Liefeld
Inker - Bob McLeod
Colorist - Laura Villari
Letterer - Tom Orzechowski


I bet it would kick all kinds of ass!

All was ok until Rob Liefeld. I will always associate him with the death knell of the New Mutants and for some hideous...truly abominable art.

Pin width ankles and uber-high crotches that start and end 15cm's from the neck.

[NielsVanEekelen]

That was my favourite part of the original series - the friendship between the characters. It made you feel like you were a part of that group.

Yeah, they were just a very relatable group. Some very different personalities, but they shared a bond.

And Arthur Adams? Well, he's working at Marvel right now--surely he could at least do some covers?:smile:

[DrDoom616]

Mirage
Cannonball
Sunspot
Magma
Wolfsbane
Karma
Warlock
Cypher
&
Magik

Bring back the original team only.

[Leirus]

Yeah, they were just a very relatable group. Some very different personalities, but they shared a bond.

And Arthur Adams? Well, he's working at Marvel right now--surely he could at least do some covers?:smile:

He is too slow, thought... but covers would be all right

Who was the one who did the Moonstar/Surge divided we stand? It was cartoonish but nice... If we are not getting a first line artist, I would settle with that one. He looked promising...

[NielsVanEekelen]

David Lafuente. He's okay, but not someone I'd get terribly excited about

That was also written by C.B. Cebulski, by the way.

[Leirus]

David Lafuente. He's okay, but not someone I'd get terribly excited about

That was also written by C.B. Cebulski, by the way.

Hey, with that name he is probably spanish.

I would love also to have David Lopez. He is one of my faves

http://www.planetacomic.net/imagenes/comics/espiralpolaroidsg.jpg

[The Lucky One]

I could have sworn my calendar said "2009" when I went to bed last night, but the internet is telling me it's 1986. Lame.

Good point... try as I might, I can't remember any good comics that came out in the mid eighties. Kind of a bleak time for comics in general, really.

Gene, you know I respect the hell out of you, but bringing back fan favorite characters who've lacked a clear direction for years (arguably decades) isn't a guarantee of pandering to nostalgia and nothing else. People like the New Mutants. A lot. If Marvel puts the right writer on this bad boy, it could be great. Too bad Peter David's already busy with X-Factor, but there's plenty of other talent out there.

-D

[The Lucky One]

Cipher will stay dead--they just gave his name to a new girl.

Yeah, but the latest issue of YXM had Greymalkin drawing a distinction between his friend, Cipher, and his other friend, Cypher. Between that and the teaser image at the end of issue #5, I wouldn't count Doug as resurrected yet, but it's not too far of a stretch either.

-D

[MartinRedmond]

Good point... try as I might, I can't remember any good comics that came out in the mid eighties. Kind of a bleak time for comics in general, really.

Just Marvel stuff:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/48138-3246-57599-1-u-s-1_super.jpg
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/18060839334.2.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/79217765510.1.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/77788504350.1.GIF
Strikeforce Morituri
Cloak & Dagger

[Sugarbombz]

Good point... try as I might, I can't remember any good comics that came out in the mid eighties. Kind of a bleak time for comics in general, really.

Gene, you know I respect the hell out of you, but bringing back fan favorite characters who've lacked a clear direction for years (arguably decades) isn't a guarantee of pandering to nostalgia and nothing else. People like the New Mutants. A lot. If Marvel puts the right writer on this bad boy, it could be great. Too bad Peter David's already busy with X-Factor, but there's plenty of other talent out there.

-D

Cannonball, Moonstar, and Wolfsbane have been doing great which is why I think its sad they are regressing to this team again. Moonstar I admit has always been about this team and those characters other than her students but Cannonball is an X-Man and Rahne has been in two great titles for the past several years both with great new friendships and interactions.

I don't mind a reunion but I am very wary of an ongoing that takes them away from the other teams they have been involved with in favor of a 20 year old team.

I'm proud of those characters and where they've gone is all. :smile:

[The Lucky One]

That's only if you see it as a regression, though. Just because a team is called "The New Mutants" doesn't mean it's automatically a junior team. It's not like a heirarchy where the X-Men is the top of the heap and every other team is progressively less professional. Yes, back in the day, Sam joining the X-Men from X-Force was presented as "moving up to the majors," and that was a good story. And sure, if this series is presented as the original Muties coming together to take orders from Scott and Emma and train noobs, then I could see people being upset by Sam and co. "taking a step down." But we have absolutely no indication that that's going to be the case. Wait and see.

-D

[yanapryde]

That's only if you see it as a regression, though. Just because a team is called "The New Mutants" doesn't mean it's automatically a junior team. It's not like a heirarchy where the X-Men is the top of the heap and every other team is progressively less professional. Yes, back in the day, Sam joining the X-Men from X-Force was presented as "moving up to the majors," and that was a good story. And sure, if this series is presented as the original Muties coming together to take orders from Scott and Emma and train noobs, then I could see people being upset by Sam and co. "taking a step down." But we have absolutely no indication that that's going to be the case. Wait and see.

-D

Oh HERE HERE Lucky One! Well said!
Yes! Titles are simply titles. Doesn't mean they're going to be sequestered to the danger room for training or their own wing of the new HQ marked "demoted" or anything. I mean...its not like they all line up in front of Scott and he tells them "Okay, y'all are just kids so we're gonna need you to do a bit more training. Here's Coach Pixie to help you all out."
And then a HUGE BULLET zooms by and Kitty pops her head out for a brief moment shouting "YOU X-BABIES! XAVIER IS A JERKkkkkkk Oh! And Hi Illyana, missed ya!"

Lets show some optimism people!

[NielsVanEekelen]

Yeah, but the latest issue of YXM had Greymalkin drawing a distinction between his friend, Cipher, and his other friend, Cypher. Between that and the teaser image at the end of issue #5, I wouldn't count Doug as resurrected yet, but it's not too far of a stretch either.

-D

Oh, thanks, hadn't seen that.

I'd really rather keep Doug dead (I consider it a good death, and there was even a body and everything) and go all "Dead is Dead!"... but considering how hard I cheered to see Illyana return, I'm worried I'd come off as a bit hypocritical.

And then a HUGE BULLET zooms by and Kitty pops her head out for a brief moment shouting "YOU X-BABIES! XAVIER IS A JERKkkkkkk Oh! And Hi Illyana, missed ya!"


:biggrin:

[Sanctus]

Team

1. Sunspot
2. Magik
2. Karma
4. Cannonball
5. Moonstar
6. Cyher

Magik and Sunspot should be the only on-team romance. Rahne should stay off the team so she can have a love interest with Cypher. Magma can make appearances as Sam's girlfriend (or beard depending on your thinking). After three arcs or so, Sunspot and Magik could leave for a spell to run Limbo while a repowered Rictor (with an interest in Cannonball) and Skids or Boom Boom join.

Jeff Parker should write it. Michael Choi should draw it.

[SayOcean]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/PoserKiller/NewMutants.pngthis is the only team im interested in seeing....i mean look at mean mug illyana is giving the camera, the smug look of amara, the tough one of moonstar, and the seriousness of sam....I love this picture

[yanapryde]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/PoserKiller/NewMutants.pngthis is the only team im interested in seeing....i mean look at mean mug illyana is giving the camera, the smug look of amara, the tough one of moonstar, and the seriousness of sam....I love this picture

I love this picture as well. Its one of my top 3 images of the team.
And thus...I comment and quote your post to repeat said image in all its glory!

[Joe Franklin]

Since Claremont is taking part in the NYC Comicon X-panel tomorrow afternoon, I think we know who will be writing the New Mutants.:frown:

[yanapryde]

Since Claremont is taking part in the NYC Comicon X-panel tomorrow afternoon, I think we know who will be writing the New Mutants.:frown:

WELL...if that IS the case....maybe Claremont was replaced by a skrull.
A skrull with a creative writing edge and a mastery of continuity and character voices. You know. Like Chris Yost. But Skrull-ified.:wink:

[Joe Franklin]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cq-h1RCj4yI/R993fO5kTHI/AAAAAAAAAXk/s3hRnHjBjC0/s400/SienkiewiczNewMutantsPinup.jpg

[Joe Franklin]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cq-h1RCj4yI/R99b5O5kTBI/AAAAAAAAAW0/lTfd7DO1IJg/s400/New-Mutants.jpg

[Joe Franklin]

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q166/iagainstcomics/badcostumes.jpg

[Imraith Nimphais]

GASP!...Lawsy! but those costumes are hideously vile, I tell you...LOL...the pic is laughter inducing..."Look at this mess" indeed...thanx Joe Franklin...and esp. thanx fer the Sienkiewicz pin-up...absolutely Scrummy!

[Joe Franklin]

Who is this wolf guy?:confused:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11307/407381-3234-32559-2-the-new-mutants_super.jpg

[Washout]

If Claremont is writing it, I don't think Boom Boom has a chance of being among the cast. Which is sad because she's just lovely.

[Joe Franklin]

http://www.universalheros.com/e-baybooks/new-mutants-90.jpg

[RickyD410]

WELL...if that IS the case....maybe Claremont was replaced by a skrull.
A skrull with a creative writing edge and a mastery of continuity and character voices. You know. Like Chris Yost. But Skrull-ified.:wink:
Hmm.... do you know something we don't, my good friend?

Cannonball, Moonstar, and Wolfsbane have been doing great which is why I think its sad they are regressing to this team again. Moonstar I admit has always been about this team and those characters other than her students but Cannonball is an X-Man and Rahne has been in two great titles for the past several years both with great new friendships and interactions.

I don't mind a reunion but I am very wary of an ongoing that takes them away from the other teams they have been involved with in favor of a 20 year old team.

I'm proud of those characters and where they've gone is all. :smile:
The thing is, most New Mutants.... haven't gone anywhere. Cannonball is definitely an X-Man. Wolfsbane is doing great too. But for the past few years, Dani, Sunspot, and Magma really havent been doing much. Karma is finally being seen in San Fran, but its mostly just background stuff. Magik was dead, Cypher is dead, Warlock's in space. I'd really say the only people who have gone on to better things are Cannonball and Wolfsbane.

Since Claremont is taking part in the NYC Comicon X-panel tomorrow afternoon, I think we know who will be writing the New Mutants.:frown:

It might be Guggenheim. They just cancelled Young X-Men, and he was originally slated to write a New Mutants book, before it changed into YXM. Maybe they just decided to go back to the original idea?

[Joe Franklin]

http://1407graymalkin.com/Images/uxm167p31.jpg

[Joe Franklin]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1302/533894950_b92ed0c2eb_o.jpg

[Imraith Nimphais]

http://www.universalheros.com/e-baybooks/new-mutants-90.jpg

Score point to Dani...Liefeld drew/costumed them...and it did indeed get much worse...LOL.:biggrin:

[Joe Franklin]

http://1407graymalkin.com/Images/uxm167p2-3.jpg

[yanapryde]

what the frack is going on Joe Franklin?
Whats with the multiple blank posts?:confused:

[RickyD410]

what the frack is going on Joe Franklin?
Whats with the multiple blank posts?:confused:

I see lots of New Mutant pictures. Maybe your computers on the fritz?

[Joe Franklin]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cq-h1RCj4yI/R99b5e5kTCI/AAAAAAAAAW8/bxJo-38Arvk/s400/mutants.jpg

[Joe Franklin]

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n4/MyWordsA/newmutclass_tpb.jpg

[MuhollandDriver]

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n4/MyWordsA/newmutclass_tpb.jpg

The first issue of New Mutants i ever bought. Ahhhhhh.

Claremont and Liefeld would be..errr..quite a combo.

Claremont today just isn't the same.

Nonetheless.....Claremont's original runs of New Mutants was a tasty course of a meal. Wheezie's run was a letdown of a dessert. Liefeld's run was the fart that followed.

[XSE Drake]

I'm still really super-hoping if Kyle/Yost don't get this that Cebulski does. CC writing this absolutely terrifies me, and I would hope Marvel is aware enough of this that they at the very least won't let him go it alone.

On the other hand, it seems Marvel feels they owe a debt to Claremont, as evidenced by these continual efforts to find him a book. But after three of them have tanked (five if you count GeNext and Big Hero Six) I sort of hope that maybe the reason CC is at the convention is to announce his retirement.

Is that horrible of me? Am I a bad person?

[NielsVanEekelen]

Well, Marvel is teasing "the announcement you'll NEVER guess was coming" for the X-Men panel... Could be Claremont's retirement. Or could be that Claremont is taking over as X-editor and will determine what happens in all the books.:wink:

To be fair, Claremonts writing varies wildly based on the book he's on and the artist he's working with. The last of his work that I really liked was X-Treme, and that had three New Mutants running around by the end.

My top choices for New Mutants writer are probably:
1. C.B. Cebulski (who's actually at that panel)
2. Jeff Parker
3. Kyle/Yost
Or me, of course, but I think I'd know if that was going to be announced tomorrow.

[4sake]

Is that horrible of me? Am I a bad person?[/QUOTE]

No & No

[4sake]

I'm still really super-hoping if Kyle/Yost don't get this that Cebulski does. CC writing this absolutely terrifies me, and I would hope Marvel is aware enough of this that they at the very least won't let him go it alone.

On the other hand, it seems Marvel feels they owe a debt to Claremont, as evidenced by these continual efforts to find him a book. But after three of them have tanked (five if you count GeNext and Big Hero Six) I sort of hope that maybe the reason CC is at the convention is to announce his retirement.

Is that horrible of me? Am I a bad person?
No No

[drwho]

Perhaps claremont will be writing a new mini series called PhoeniX Force starring the cuckoos, Rachel, Ink, and Phoenix sword guy. As they go on a quest to save jean from the hot white room.

[Sugarbombz]

That's only if you see it as a regression, though. Just because a team is called "The New Mutants" doesn't mean it's automatically a junior team. It's not like a heirarchy where the X-Men is the top of the heap and every other team is progressively less professional. Yes, back in the day, Sam joining the X-Men from X-Force was presented as "moving up to the majors," and that was a good story. And sure, if this series is presented as the original Muties coming together to take orders from Scott and Emma and train noobs, then I could see people being upset by Sam and co. "taking a step down." But we have absolutely no indication that that's going to be the case. Wait and see.

-D

Oh HERE HERE Lucky One! Well said!
Yes! Titles are simply titles. Doesn't mean they're going to be sequestered to the danger room for training or their own wing of the new HQ marked "demoted" or anything. I mean...its not like they all line up in front of Scott and he tells them "Okay, y'all are just kids so we're gonna need you to do a bit more training. Here's Coach Pixie to help you all out."
And then a HUGE BULLET zooms by and Kitty pops her head out for a brief moment shouting "YOU X-BABIES! XAVIER IS A JERKkkkkkk Oh! And Hi Illyana, missed ya!"

Lets show some optimism people!

Yes but I think a lot of fans of New Mutants and Gen X always wanted for their favorites to reach their goals and actually graduate. Sam really went through a tumultuous period but I think he is definitely a staple of the X-Men. I would hate to see that go away for a trip back to the 1980's.


The thing is, most New Mutants.... haven't gone anywhere. Cannonball is definitely an X-Man. Wolfsbane is doing great too. But for the past few years, Dani, Sunspot, and Magma really havent been doing much. Karma is finally being seen in San Fran, but its mostly just background stuff. Magik was dead, Cypher is dead, Warlock's in space. I'd really say the only people who have gone on to better things are Cannonball and Wolfsbane.

I admit I am a biased Cannonball and Wolfsbane fan. I liked their time with the New Mutants but I like where they are now. I would love to see them reunite for Illyana for a couple of issues, but then I wish they'd continue with their new lives. But a New Mutants book would not work without those two.

I wish Sunspot continued working with the HFC and Dani with Shield or the Initiative. It was nice seeing them move on and spread their wings.

I guess it is shining through that I am a fan of the individual characters rather than the "New Mutants".

[Prodigy55]

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n4/MyWordsA/newmutclass_tpb.jpg

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I love Magma's pose!

[wolvie616]

this series will be full of win!

[The Lucky One]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/PoserKiller/NewMutants.pngthis is the only team im interested in seeing....i mean look at mean mug illyana is giving the camera, the smug look of amara, the tough one of moonstar, and the seriousness of sam....I love this picture

True, although it must be said that it's an Art Adams picture. Researchers have proven that it's scientifically impossible for a mortal man to look at an Art Adams drawing and not love it.

-D

[J...]

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n4/MyWordsA/newmutclass_tpb.jpg


That cover looks really nice. Man I wish I could get this book but it costs too much (about 40 bucks over here). I don't have that many New Mutants issues in my collection. Hopefully one day I stumble upon a pile of New Mutants issue for a dollar.

Anyways, I'm looking forward to the new series. I guess this weekend we might find out who will write it huh? Hopefully it's someone good. As long as Karma, Moonstar and Susnpot get a lot of panel time I'll be happy.

[joemagnum611]

As long as Sam isn't on the team I'm fine. He's an X-Man now and shouldn't be demoted. Maybe they should kill off Pixie so he can get more face time As far as the team goes give me

Dani (She's a good mentor for the kids)

Sunspot (He has to go somewhere)

Magik (It'll be good for her to be with her friends)

Karma (I know she's been in Uncanny but get real she's no X-Man besides she was a good teacher)

Prodigy (Dani could train him to the future leader. If not here he should be someplace like X-Factor he could be of way more use than Rictor)

Rockslide

Cipher (They need a stealth person)

Surge

Hellion (If he survives his X-Force appearance)


Or they could use UXM's approach and have a rotating cast but just tone it down. The adults could be called for certain missions a some of the kids could appear. Just keep lame ass Anal, I mean Anole limited. That way people like X-23, Elixer, and Rhane can be around their peers every now and then when they aren't on X-Force missions. It would be interesting to see Rahne and Elixer dealing with everything they've seen and not being able to tell their best friends. Hell Dani is Scott's guardian.

[Seikun21]

Hell Dani is Scott's guardian.

Dani is Josh's guardian, Dani is younger than Scott.

[yanapryde]

Dani is Josh's guardian.

[Sugarbombz]

As long as Sam isn't on the team I'm fine. He's an X-Man now and shouldn't be demoted. Maybe they should kill off Pixie so he can get more face time As far as the team goes give me

Dani (She's a good mentor for the kids)

Sunspot (He has to go somewhere)

Magik (It'll be good for her to be with her friends)

Karma (I know she's been in Uncanny but get real she's no X-Man besides she was a good teacher)

Prodigy (Dani could train him to the future leader. If not here he should be someplace like X-Factor he could be of way more use than Rictor)

Rockslide

Cipher (They need a stealth person)

Surge

Hellion (If he survives his X-Force appearance)


Or they could use UXM's approach and have a rotating cast but just tone it down. The adults could be called for certain missions a some of the kids could appear. Just keep lame ass Anal, I mean Anole limited. That way people like X-23, Elixer, and Rhane can be around their peers every now and then when they aren't on X-Force missions. It would be interesting to see Rahne and Elixer dealing with everything they've seen and not being able to tell their best friends. Hell Dani is Scott's guardian.

Anal?

If any of the current "new" mutants are to be in the book, I hope its Anole, Surge, and Cipher since I think they have good reason to be with Anole being personally recruited by Dani despite his reservations, Surge because she owes Danielle for property damage, and Cipher because she was hired to do a job and put more on the line being on the team with the mysterious person chasing her.

[Twisted Bliss]

Dani is Josh's guardian.

And what a fine job she's doing so far.

1)Josh has a roof over his head.
2)Josh has food and a bed.
3)Josh is hanging out with the murderous blood thirsty section of the X-men....

Hmmm...

[RickyD410]

And what a fine job she's doing so far.

1)Josh has a roof over his head.
2)Josh has food and a bed.
3)Josh is hanging out with the murderous blood thirsty section of the X-men....

Hmmm...

He's an X-Man now. Or at least, he's working with the X-Men now. Dani is too. She knows the deal. She knows how it works. If Cyke said he needed Elixir's help, what's Dani gona do? Say no? "No you cant use my legal son to heal my friends and teammates!"

I dont know why so many people think that this will be a "demotion". Just because the title is New Mutants, doesnt mean the characters will be younger or untrained again. Wolverine, Archangel, and Warpath are in X-Force now. Were they demoted? Absolutely not. If anything, they were promoted to their own title where they get more facetime as they help the mutant race. This book might be the exact same thing, but instead of having the title of the book be some spinoff with the letter X in it, it's called New Mutants.

[Prodigy55]

He's an X-Man now. Or at least, he's working with the X-Men now. Dani is too. She knows the deal. She knows how it works. If Cyke said he needed Elixir's help, what's Dani gona do? Say no? "No you cant use my legal son to heal my friends and teammates!"

I don't think she knows about all the killing actually.
She'd probably flip out about it too.

[Twisted Bliss]

I don't think she knows about all the killing actually.
She'd probably flip out about it too.

I'm going with Prodigy55 on this one.

I think X-force is a secret black-ops division of the X-family. If that remains the case its rather doubtful that Dani would know of its existence or of Josh's involvement.

[steve2275]

anyone who has ever been a new mutant (and is still alive) and throw in the young x men cast
if u dont like that.......too damn bad :tongue:

[The Lucky One]

I dont know why so many people think that this will be a "demotion". Just because the title is New Mutants, doesnt mean the characters will be younger or untrained again. Wolverine, Archangel, and Warpath are in X-Force now. Were they demoted? Absolutely not. If anything, they were promoted to their own title where they get more facetime as they help the mutant race.

Well, and that's exactly it. I guess on some level I can understand the people who would consider it a "demotion" for Sam or Rahne, just based purely on the New Mutants name and what that's meant in the past. But you're absolutely right that it does (or should) come down to facetime. Hypothetically speaking, would you rather see a character you like have a major role on one team in a really good book, or pop up every other storyline for a minor role in an okay book (but a more "major" team)?

I don't like creator comparisons, but I'll tell you this: if Chuck Austen was still writing X-Men and announced he wanted to use Longshot in a support role on the team, I'd sure as hell rather have Peter David writing him every issue in X-Factor than Chuck writing him every third issue on a more "important" team.

-D

[XSE Drake]

Well, X-Men panel is at 3:15 today. Which means I fully expect this particular thread to get real interesting later this afternoon. :-)

[RickyD410]

I don't think she knows about all the killing actually.
She'd probably flip out about it too.
Ooooh, absolutely. X-Force is a huge secret that only they know about (and the Cuckoos). I was just responding to Twisted Bliss's post.
Well, and that's exactly it. I guess on some level I can understand the people who would consider it a "demotion" for Sam or Rahne, just based purely on the New Mutants name and what that's meant in the past. But you're absolutely right that it does (or should) come down to facetime. Hypothetically speaking, would you rather see a character you like have a major role on one team in a really good book, or pop up every other storyline for a minor role in an okay book (but a more "major" team)?

I don't like creator comparisons, but I'll tell you this: if Chuck Austen was still writing X-Men and announced he wanted to use Longshot in a support role on the team, I'd sure as hell rather have Peter David writing him every issue in X-Factor than Chuck writing him every third issue on a more "important" team.

-D

I completely agree. I want to see Karma in an actual role, as opposed to in every background shot in San Fransisco.

[Twisted Bliss]

Well, and that's exactly it. I guess on some level I can understand the people who would consider it a "demotion" for Sam or Rahne, just based purely on the New Mutants name and what that's meant in the past. But you're absolutely right that it does (or should) come down to facetime. Hypothetically speaking, would you rather see a character you like have a major role on one team in a really good book, or pop up every other storyline for a minor role in an okay book (but a more "major" team)?

I don't like creator comparisons, but I'll tell you this: if Chuck Austen was still writing X-Men and announced he wanted to use Longshot in a support role on the team, I'd sure as hell rather have Peter David writing him every issue in X-Factor than Chuck writing him every third issue on a more "important" team.

-D

I can't argue with you on this.

Lets be honest. Being an 'X-man' hardly holds the same level of credence as it once used to. I'd rather my favourites weren't on the core X-men team since they'd be nothing more than scenery in the ever expanding Scott, Emma and wolverine show.

It shows how far the X-fanchise has sunk given the Avengers seem more consistent and stable a team. (Ooo that sounds bitchy. I just have much love for the X-teams and want to see them restored as Marvel's premier team.

[AcesX1X]

danielle moonstar does not mind excessive force.

she used to fry the brains of her best friends on a pretty consistent basis when she used to be undercover.

she is valkyrie. she is good friends with DEATH.

i don't think she cares.

[Twisted Bliss]

Ooooh, absolutely. X-Force is a huge secret that only they know about (and the Cuckoos). I was just responding to Twisted Bliss's post.

Not to be rude, but then you may have missed the point of my post (or I was just being too vague as per usual)

I was referring to the fact as his guardian, if she knew what he was up to and lets him continue its bad. And if is she didn't know what he was up to its just as bad.

As his guardian she has the moral, and legal obligation to take care of him and keep him safe. At present 'Safe' is not a position on the X-men's black ops team. Nor is neglecting him to the extent she doesn't know or seemingly care as to his whereabouts. (Can you say latch-key kid. She'd be guilty of child neglect)

[Twisted Bliss]

danielle moonstar does not mind excessive force.

she used to fry the brains of her best friends on a pretty consistent basis when she used to be undercover.

she is valkyrie. she is good friends with DEATH.

i don't think she cares.

Yes I agree. But if you had the legal and moral duty of looking after someone would you want them in harms way.

If for example you got 10 Vampirecats. Would you want them dressed in spandex fighting murderous techno-zombies. (no blood=no strength for kittykats)

Oh perhaps I'm just being too practical trying to apply real world logic......I mean when you think of it like that Rahne was Moira's responsiblity to look after/keep safe etc.. but then she wasn't on a black ops team. She was at a school learning to use her abilites and just so happened to have been on school squad that wasn't intended for combat.... although the New Mutants were formed to replace the X-men when Xavier thought the X-men had died..oh I'm rambling......*whistles innocently and avoids eye contact*

[NielsVanEekelen]

It shows how far the X-fanchise has sunk given the Avengers seem more consistent and stable a team. (Ooo that sounds bitchy. I just have much love for the X-teams and want to see them restored as Marvel's premier team.

I actually like Uncanny as a book for all X-characters. The franchise has long lacked a true core book, and that's what Uncanny is now.

That said, I want my favorites in a book where they get to star all the time, too.


And The Lucky One, Chuck who? Wasn't Uncanny X-Men just not published for a while during the period you're referring to?

[Twisted Bliss]

I actually like Uncanny as a book for all X-characters. The franchise has long lacked a true core book, and that's what Uncanny is now.

That said, I want my favorites in a book where they get to star all the time, too.


That's fair enough. I can see the attraction. My problem with it is that the it seems to focus primarily on the main characters of Astonishing.

I'd have no problem with them being in it, but if they shared the floor more equally with others then I would be happier with the book.

[RickyD410]

Not to be rude, but then you may have missed the point of my post (or I was just being too vague as per usual)

I was referring to the fact as his guardian, if she knew what he was up to and lets him continue its bad. And if is she didn't know what he was up to its just as bad.

As his guardian she has the moral, and legal obligation to take care of him and keep him safe. At present 'Safe' is not a position on the X-men's black ops team. Nor is neglecting him to the extent she doesn't know or seemingly care as to his whereabouts. (Can you say latch-key kid. She'd be guilty of child neglect)
I know, but this is not a normal situation. She trusts Cyclops, and if Cyke said "I need Elixir for some help" I dont think Dani would object. She's not in a normal position here. As far as she knows, he's healing her teammates. And that doesnt seem any more dangerous than any other healer's job.
I actually like Uncanny as a book for all X-characters. The franchise has long lacked a true core book, and that's what Uncanny is now.

That said, I want my favorites in a book where they get to star all the time, too.


And The Lucky One, Chuck who? Wasn't Uncanny X-Men just not published for a while during the period you're referring to?

I was actually very excited when I heard about this rotating cast thing. Especially when they said Karma would be used in the first arc. But its really just the Astonishing Show, with occasional guest spots. We see the usual crew with some random people in the background every now and then. I was hoping with a rotating cast, we'd actually see lots of different characters every few issues.

[XSE Drake]

I'd love a New Mutants book that had two core teams in alternating arcs, with alternating creative teams. Let Cebulski do a 5-6 issue New Mutants arc, centering on the original New Mutants, then Yost and/or Kyle can do an arc with the New X-Men.

Sooo many happy customers, and potentially some overlap as well.

I know I'd buy it.

[RickyD410]

I'd love a New Mutants book that had two core teams in alternating arcs, with alternating creative teams. Let Cebulski do a 5-6 issue New Mutants arc, centering on the original New Mutants, then Yost and/or Kyle can do an arc with the New X-Men.

Sooo many happy customers, and potentially some overlap as well.

I know I'd buy it.

That would be cool. But it might sound a bit like two books in one. There would need to be some overlap, because otherwise it might be a little jarring. Although I suspect many people would only buy every other arc, ya know? But I'd definitely buy it!

[MartinRedmond]

Dani is still a Valkyrie?:confused: I haven't seen Brightwind in a long time. Is it because comics have evolved so much that flying horses can't be drawn anymore?

[Twisted Bliss]

Dani is still a Valkyrie?:confused: I haven't seen Brightwind in a long time. Is it because comics have evolved so much that flying horses can't be drawn anymore?

Didn't Brightwind get schmushed in X-Force? (I believe he was then going by the name Blackwind or DarkWind and had leathery bat like wings)

[MartinRedmond]

Didn't Brightwind get schmushed in X-Force? (I believe he was then going by the name Blackwind or DarkWind and had leathery bat like wings)

The 90s never happened. Fabian Nickieza?Never heard that name. I'm disapointed he didn't have dual machine guns strapped on each side of his saddle.

[RickyD410]

Dani is still a Valkyrie?:confused: I haven't seen Brightwind in a long time. Is it because comics have evolved so much that flying horses can't be drawn anymore?

Nope, we saw one in Captain Britain and MI:13 just a few months ago. In the second issue of the "Birmingham is Burning" arc, The Black Knight and Faiza reach the scene by riding on a flying horse.

[MartinRedmond]

Awesome, then again Leonard Kirk can really draw.

[The Lucky One]

And The Lucky One, Chuck who? Wasn't Uncanny X-Men just not published for a while during the period you're referring to?

That's what I thought for the longest time, but you hear rumors... dark, swirling rumors...

-D

[XSE Drake]

Chuck has been retconned from my memory.

Proof that a retcon CAN be used for good.