Detective 853 on March 18?

[fin5]

Does anyone find this strange that this will come out after battle for the cowl

[Seraku]

somewhere DiDio is wearing a cape and laughing maniacly

[HaroldAllnut]

Does anyone find this strange that this will come out after battle for the cowl

I had heard that Batman and Detective Comics would be on hiatus during Battle for the Cowl.

[Mac]

That's after the "Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?" story.
As I recall, Bat 686 was to be out by the first week of February and 'Tect 853 on the last week in Feb.
With that wrapping up the main Bat titles for BftC's duration, the subsequent 'spin-off' books are set to be cancelled all on the same week in February.
All of this was planned for February to make sure that all-things mainstream Batman in March were Battle For The Cowl focused.

It just seems logical that DC would get all of the bat stories wrapped up, or cancelled as the case may be, so that the only Bat stories would be in BftC to up the sales.

Of course, here I am thinking DiDio uses logic. Silly me. :rolleyes:

[AlistairCrane]

That's so annoying--this project was announced long enough ago and Kubert had enough lead time to get both issues in the can in time to be released on time.

[Seraku]

what I'm guessing is that they want to milk the anticipation since these are the last 2 serialized Batman ongoings before the hiatus

[celticguy]

is 853 the first with Dick in the batsuit? Ir is it Gaimens book?

[davepaton]

is 853 the first with Dick in the batsuit? Ir is it Gaimens book?

It's the second part of Gaiman's book which I believe to be out of continuity. Plus we don't know that it will be Dick wearing the batsuit

[celticguy]

It's the second part of Gaiman's book which I believe to be out of continuity. Plus we don't know that it will be Dick wearing the batsuit


I suppose we don't know for sure but if it is not There will be a reckoning.

[AlistairCrane]

Dick has to compete with Robin, Batgirl, etc. in Battle for the Cowl to decide who will become Batman. It's not as simple as him putting on the Batsuit.

Plus, they already did that in Prodigal.

[celticguy]

Dick has to compete with Robin, Batgirl, etc. in Battle for the Cowl to decide who will become Batman. It's not as simple as him putting on the Batsuit.

Plus, they already did that in Prodigal.

It will be a disaster if Dick does not take on the mantle. Not only has everyting forshadowed it. I can't imagine they want to go down the same road they did with Jean Paul.

[the goddamn batman]

That's so annoying--this project was announced long enough ago and Kubert had enough lead time to get both issues in the can in time to be released on time.

Just because it was announced doesn't mean anyone had started working on it at that point... or that Kubert actually had a script in hand. :wink:

[AlistairCrane]

Just because it was announced doesn't mean anyone had started working on it at that point... or that Kubert actually had a script in hand. :wink:

Neil Gaiman is far more professional than the Kubert brothers. Their track record at DC speaks for itself.

[the goddamn batman]

Neil Gaiman is far more professional than the Kubert brothers. Their track record at DC speaks for itself.

What does that have to do with anything that I said?

[AlistairCrane]

What does that have to do with anything that I said?

You were implying it's Gaiman's fault for the delay. It's not.

[Captain Jim]

For clarification, this issue was originally scheduled to come out in February, but has now been delayed until March.

Yes, that's after Battle for the Cowl, and no, that's not ideal. But if it's not done, it's not done. Personally, I'll probably do the same thing with this that I did with the previous two-issue arcs: set the first issue aside until the second one comes out and then read them both together.

Afraid I have to agree with Alistair this time; this is almost certainly Kubert's fault. Has this man ever met a deadline in his entire life? I'm actually glad that the Kuberts don't appear to be exclusive at DC anymore; what did they actually even accomplish here? Other than miss deadlines and hold up books?

[the goddamn batman]

You were implying it's Gaiman's fault for the delay. It's not.

...I did? Because I thought what I said was: Just because it was announced doesn't mean anyone had started working on it at that point...

...yeah, don't see any implication to Gaiman there.

or that Kubert actually had a script in hand.

And that's really an addendum to the initial thought. Which doesn't point any "blame" towards Gaiman, either.

I'll give you Kubert's lateness. But you've got to admit that DC repeatedly announce projects without enough lead time given to the notoriously slow artists or writers on the project... and repeatedly fail with deadlines and fill in artists.

[Sean Whitmore]

I'm actually glad that the Kuberts don't appear to be exclusive at DC anymore; what did they actually even accomplish here? Other than miss deadlines and hold up books?

Cronin asked this once, and I had no answer for it:

Has anyone gotten LESS out of an exclusive contract than DC did with the Kuberts?


SEAN

[Abraxas]

Cronin asked this once, and I had no answer for it:

Has anyone gotten LESS out of an exclusive contract than DC did with the Kuberts?


SEAN

That is a mighty fine question. Could DC have put the Kuberts under contract to keep Marvel from using them? Or are they just that bad?

I'd probably go with the later. But, those two did less then a dozen issues over a three year period, and a hand full of regular and variant covers.

[Captain Jim]

One has to wonder if DC was even interested in renewing their contract.

[Captain Jim]

those two did less then a dozen issues over a three year period.

Andy did those opening issues on Morrison's Batman run, and now this. Adam did Johns' first arc in Action. What else did they do (excluding covers)?

[Seraku]

Joe Kubert did more work than his sons did