The Illyana / MAGIK Appreciation Thread!

[yanapryde]

http://magik.strength-within.net/images/scans/nm/034.BMP
She's the most BAD @$$ of the New Mutants.
Demon Sorceress and Mutant!

Let the praise and photo representation flourish!!!

[XaviersMisprint]

I got your back, yanapryde! Wooooo!

[yanapryde]

http://stormantic.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/arthur-adams-magik.jpg

[yanapryde]

I got your back, yanapryde! Wooooo!

YAY!!!

SUPPORT! I'm so excited. I've never started a thread before! I hope it doesn't wind up filled with 'Yana-bashers!

:biggrin:

[SayOcean]

okay....i had no idea that Magik didnt have an appreciation thread.....kudos to you for starting it

[yanapryde]

okay....i had no idea that Magik didnt have an appreciation thread.....kudos to you for starting it

Thanks! I feel as though I'm going to wind up being the only person posting in it though. Until people become aware of it.
Darkchylde! Mullhollanddriver!! Where you 'Yana fans at???

She's creepy and she's cooky! Mysterious and Spooky!
She's got a big @$$ sword!
She's Yana Rasputin!!!

[SayOcean]

i just might whip out the old scanner and scann some awesome yana sh!t (Magik i mean not the poster)


on a side note at a party i met a girl from the Ukraine...named Yana she even had the razor cut banged but her hair was black


but she was underaged and in h.s.

[yanapryde]

i just might whip out the old scanner and scann some awesome yana sh!t (Magik i mean not the poster)


on a side note at a party i met a girl from the Ukraine...named Yana she even had the razor cut banged but her hair was black


but she was underaged and in h.s.

underaged AND in h.s. eh?

double trouble. Just like Illyana.
She makes duality look real good. She's evil. She's good. She's evil. She's good. She's got goat legs. Oh! Where'd they go?!
Me?
I'm really more fond of X-Man/New Mutant Illyana, rather than Darkchild Illyana. I know some would argue otherwise. I just prefer the Innocent girl struggling with the darkness inside her. Please oh please let her return to the X-Men Proper after X-Infernus!

Oh and Oh YES! SCANS!! LOVELY LOVELY SCANS! I too will find scans. Or...at the very least....fervently try.:biggrin:

[darknessatnoon]

Ilyana has not appeared in any solicitations other than that comic. I wonder if she will survive! :mad:

[yanapryde]

Ilyana has not appeared in any solicitations other than that comic. I wonder if she will survive! :mad:

the HOPE is that Marvel is just holding her up their sleeve until the BIG REVEAL after Infernus ends.
THATS the HOPE.

If she goes back into non-existence or sits down in Limbo for another few months, I'm not buying anymore books until she comes back. My solemn vow!

[MartinRedmond]

I liked that she outsmarted Fat Karma, and by the same token, Dani, since Dani was in a panic for a plan, when Illyana came up with one. Illyana wasn't soft, but she knew how to be when it benefited the entire team.

[yanapryde]

One of my favorite Illyana moments was during the Hellfire Club ball.
Having witnessed Cypher being a D-bag to Tarot, Illyana notices Empath overseeing this as well and grabs hold of him, pulling him onto the dance floor.

Being resistant to his powers, she threatens him, believing him responsible for Cypher's poor manners. She nuzzles her head into his chest, as if they're having a great time and all the while she's threatening his life.
:eek:
Awesome Sauce!

[darknessatnoon]

One of my favorite Illyana moments was during the Hellfire Club ball.
Having witnessed Cypher being a D-bag to Tarot, Illyana notices Empath overseeing this as well and grabs hold of him, pulling him onto the dance floor.

Being resistant to his powers, she threatens him, believing him responsible for Cypher's poor manners. She nuzzles her head into his chest, as if they're having a great time and all the while she's threatening his life.
:eek:
Awesome Sauce!

It's interesting that Pixie is now resistant to Empath. Do you think she took this trait from Illyana?

Shouldn't this be an Illyana/Pixie Appreciation thread?

[Twisted Bliss]

Ilyana has not appeared in any solicitations other than that comic. I wonder if she will survive! :mad:

We hold out hope with the cover for New Avengers #51

http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/data/media/414/New_Avengers_51.jpg

[drwho]

lets try this again

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/costume/magik-bigcostume4.jpg
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/costume/magik-bigcostume5.jpg
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/costume/magik-bigcostume6.jpg
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/costume/magik-bigcostume3.jpg

[yanapryde]

It's interesting that Pixie is now resistant to Empath. Do you think she took this trait from Illyana?

Shouldn't this be an Illyana/Pixie Appreciation thread?

Oh D@N....my dear dear D@N....

Pixie has an appreciation thread. She's got a few, I believe.
This is Illyana's.
You're more than welcome to begin a joint thread. No disrespect to Pix.
She's Welsh and lovely.
But its all about Russia here.:redface:

[MartinRedmond]

That was a good moment when she spotted Empath, indeed.

It's not hard to share all of her best moments, sadly, she only ever appeared in about 10 storylines. So my least favorites are: Inferno, The Soul Skinner (why on earth did Jubilee apply make up on an 8 year old???) and the issue she dies in. >:( The rest was pretty cool.

I like that she was stubborn and basically just did whatever she wanted every storyline, just like me. Prof asks her not to meddle into the Cloak and Dagger fiasco, Illyana teleports them all to limbo anyway. I believe she disobeyed her curfew at the Massachussets Academy... Prof needs her to teleport to earth, she won't obey cause she's moody! I love all the first gen New Mutants, but Illyana's the most like a daughter to me. <3

[darknessatnoon]

Oh D@N....my dear dear D@N....

Pixie has an appreciation thread. She's got a few, I believe.
This is Illyana's.
You're more than welcome to begin a joint thread. No disrespect to Pix.
She's Welsh and lovely.
But its all about Russia here.:redface:

We should have a simultaneous viewing of Eastern Promises and discuss how it relates to Illyana.

[MartinRedmond]

ok meh it seems my cover tribute to magik is messed up oh well.

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/56757119524.15.GIF
Is that her? I confess I still haven't read the GN or 1-16 yet. I love that cover. Let me show you the world, from my eyes.

[yanapryde]

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/56757119524.15.GIF
Is that her? I confess I still haven't read the GN or 1-16 yet. I love that cover. Let me show you the world, from my eyes.

Yes indeedy. That's our girl! In that issue, Illyana exposed her magical powers to the rest of the New Mutants for the firs time.
They'd only JUST been aware that she was a teleporter in the previous issue when S'ym came a calling for her. Ya.
And I agree with you that her time was too short.
I too loved that she tended to blow off authority. Like when she ditched out on the Danger Room training session where they faced the mauraders, just before faux-sabertooth slashed at her:biggrin:

[drwho]

The hotness

http://fc42.deviantart.com/fs36/f/2008/268/3/9/Women_of_Marvel__Magik_colored_by_mhroczny.jpg

Totally blasphemous. I never saw Magik wear something so not in style

http://xmenpower.tripod.com/namethatmutant/magik94.jpg

What was marvel thinking putting out a figure like that

http://www.comics-unlimited.com/actionfigures/sub/figure%20images/magik.jpg

[yanapryde]

We should have a simultaneous viewing of Eastern Promises and discuss how it relates to Illyana.

Eastern Promises?:confused:
You lost me d@n

[MartinRedmond]

I too loved that she tended to blow off authority. Like when she ditched out on the Danger Room training session where they faced the mauraders, just before faux-sabertooth slashed at her:biggrin:

That's what I'm talking about. Every single storyline she undermines any authority figure no matter if their decision is right or wrong.:biggrin: That's why I liked the Fat Karma story best, cause she bested the New Mutants' leader.

[yanapryde]

The hotness

http://fc42.deviantart.com/fs36/f/2008/268/3/9/Women_of_Marvel__Magik_colored_by_mhroczny.jpg

Totally blasphemous. I never saw Magik wear something so not in style

http://xmenpower.tripod.com/namethatmutant/magik94.jpg

What was marvel thinking putting out a figure like that

http://www.comics-unlimited.com/actionfigures/sub/figure%20images/magik.jpg

Oh lord! Right???
I mean, YES, I bought that figure and I still have it...but its hideous.
I wound up making a custom Magik out of an X-23 spare figure I had.
They need to bust out some Magik memorobilia ASAP. Statues, a decent action figure, a bust...whatevs! Get on it Marvel.

[darknessatnoon]

Eastern Promises?:confused:
You lost me d@n

It's a movie close to the heart of the Russian people.

[MartinRedmond]

The hotness


What was marvel thinking putting out a figure like that


Not that I mind eye candy, but I'm not found of her new costume being so titilating since she's a minor. :/ I hope that the current editorialship will consider her as more than jailbait.

[yanapryde]

Not that I mind eye candy, but I'm not found of her new costume being so titilating since she's a minor. :/ I hope that the current editorialship will consider her as more than jailbait.

Indeed. I'm dying to find out exactly what age she is, now that she's back. Is she a teen again? She certainly looks older. Dani and Sam's age? I dunno.
I would ALSO love to see what she'll look like POST infernus!! In an X Uniform. Preferably not designed like any of the Astonishing team's designs. Bleh!:evilangry:

[drwho]

She is truly possessed


http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/c5/d/AAAAAn_Yb0oAAAAAAMXU4g.jpg

A piece of Magik memorabilia

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1302/533894950_b92ed0c2eb_o.jpg

[MartinRedmond]

I think her x-men uniform will cut just shortly under her breasts, so that you get the impression you'll see the whole thing when she raises her sword in victory but just not quite!!! :x

[yanapryde]

She is truly possessed


http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/c5/d/AAAAAn_Yb0oAAAAAAMXU4g.jpg

A piece of Magik memorabilia

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1302/533894950_b92ed0c2eb_o.jpg

she looks like CHER there ...or a drag queen.:mad:

[yanapryde]

That right there should be positive proof that Ms. Rasputin needs her own Marvel Legends figure stat!
She's hideous. Its awful they allowed her to look that bad. Illyana is beautiful!
That does her NO justice!

[Prodigy55]

It would be cool if she returned to like the larger Marvel Universe.
And meet other young magicians like Wiccan and Nico.

[yanapryde]

so I just read in the X-Position thingie that the upcoming New Mutants title has a definite solid team roster.
Not like Uncanny where everyone is interchangable at any given moment throughout the story.
That sounds promising.

COME ON ILLYANA!

[Deathstroke]

She was a longtime favorite character of mine.

[drwho]

If MArvel did a horror title that starred magik. would you all pick that up if it really didnt involve mutants much. Maybe do something similar to the night crawler series.

[yanapryde]

If MArvel did a horror title that starred magik. would you all pick that up if it really didnt involve mutants much. Maybe do something similar to the night crawler series.

It would have to be some damn good writing.
Part of what I love about Illyana is her interaction with the other X-Men etc.

[MuhollandDriver]

Rock on YanaPryde! We need a thread like this.

It is official...Young X-Men is cancelled (their answer for what happens to these characters after the title is vaogue..anyone have ideas)...

and New Mutants is a reality.

YanaPryde...don't fret about Magik being in the upcoming New Mutants.

Think about it :)

[XaviersMisprint]

Rock on YanaPryde! We need a thread like this.

It is official...Young X-Men is cancelled (their answer for what happens to these characters after the title is vaogue..anyone have ideas)...

and New Mutants is a reality.

YanaPryde...don't fret about Magik being in the upcoming New Mutants.

Think about it :)

Made it sound like they were going to appear in X-Force... at least some of the students.

[drwho]

please gawd dont put claremont on new mutants!!!!!!

[MuhollandDriver]

Made it sound like they were going to appear in X-Force... at least some of the students.

really? how so?

i think we all need to do a dance to our chosen higher powers for an appropriate writer for New Mutants. And for life beyond Young X-Men for the team members we like.

*moonwalks to the living room*

[yanapryde]

I love your avatar btw, XaviersMisprint

[yanapryde]

Okay, lets get back on track with the Illyana Love....
She's pretty! She's cool! She dominates Xavier's school!

Did anyone else notice Karma and Illyana in a deleted scene in X2?
:biggrin:

[Prodigy55]

Okay, lets get back on track with the Illyana Love....
She's pretty! She's cool! She dominates Xavier's school!

Did anyone else notice Karma and Illyana in a deleted scene in X2?
:biggrin:

OMG! Where/when!?

[yanapryde]

OMG! Where/when!?

During the raid on Xavier's.
There is a deleted scene where Rogue helps two children, clearly much younger, into one of the escape shafts and she instructs them to run to the nearest house, tell them they ran away from their boarding school and under no circumstances are they to tell them they are mutants.
They're too girls.
One blonde with bangs.
One asian.
I'm convinced its Illyana and Karma. Unofficially, sure. But.....:rolleyes:

[MartinRedmond]

Here's excerpts from Subway to Salvation, Illyana meets God!

She is instantly star struck.
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/337/ill1az7.jpg

(It's too bad she denies him in the end, she could've had a flying subway car instead of Limbo)
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9816/ill2vl7.jpg

Illyana tries to convert her buddies over to God, but they won't have it.
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9234/ill3bh5.jpg

In the End, God goes too far by asking for Kitty. Thankfuly, Illyana won't let Pryde get eaten. Though she does take a while, contemplating the idea.
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6672/ill4ut9.jpg
KITTY!!!!!!

[yanapryde]

Okay so I JUST bought an issue of New Mutants I wasn't aware of.
Its a Giant sized Annual ...#3?

Its got Warlock fighting some alien guy on the cover.
Anyhow... it has some great Magik moments.
I love how when she fights someone, she underminds them by calling them 'cutie' before striking sometimes. Like how she does when she fights the Black Knight in the danger room.
She's got a lot of great teleporting maneuvers in this issue. Alan Davis is the artist.:biggrin:

[Will '85]

Was just going through all my old comics, looking for some good scenes of Illyana. Got sidetracked when I stumbled across Wolverine #75. It, ahem, had a hologram cover. Mmm shiny.

Anyways, after reading it I realised I'd totally forgotten that when Wolverine was hovering on the brink of death, Illyana had appeared to him and tried to take him into the light. And you know what stopped him? Jean Grey..

So, clear indisputable proof that Illyana Rasputin > Jean :biggrin:

[wolvie616]

Was just going through all my old comics, looking for some good scenes of Illyana. Got sidetracked when I stumbled across Wolverine #75. It, ahem, had a hologram cover. Mmm shiny.

Anyways, after reading it I realised I'd totally forgotten that when Wolverine was hovering on the brink of death, Illyana had appeared to him and tried to take him into the light. And you know what stopped him? Jean Grey..

So, clear indisputable proof that Illyana Rasputin > Jean :biggrin:

i like them both

DARKCHILDE VS PHOENIX that would be a good fight!

[Bingo!]

Yana!

This thread needs images in the opening post.

I demand it!

please. :biggrin:

[Will '85]

i like them both

DARKCHILDE VS PHOENIX that would be a good fight!

Maybe.. she's supposed to be at least as powerful as Belasco. And Belasco managed to counter some of the collateral damage from when Strange and Shuma Gorath duked it out. That's messing with some high end reality altering magic right there.

[MartinRedmond]

Was just going through all my old comics, looking for some good scenes of Illyana. Got sidetracked when I stumbled across Wolverine #75. It, ahem, had a hologram cover. Mmm shiny.

Anyways, after reading it I realised I'd totally forgotten that when Wolverine was hovering on the brink of death, Illyana had appeared to him and tried to take him into the light. And you know what stopped him? Jean Grey..

So, clear indisputable proof that Illyana Rasputin > Jean :biggrin:

These news have me distraught. As I enjoy both Illyana and Jean Grey a great deal. I guess nobody's perfect, not even Jean. She should've minded her own business and let Illyana do has need be. Illyana was clearly the better person in this over Jean.

[Will '85]

These news have me distraught. As I enjoy both Illyana and Jean Grey a great deal. I guess nobody's perfect, not even Jean. She should've minded her own business and let Illyana do has need be. Illyana was clearly the better person in this over Jean.

To make matters worse, Jean was in mortal danger, and Wolverine saved her.

Loose translation of events: "Logan, you are so the man. You came back from death, just to save little old me. /Swoon"

Edit- It's like, well you know Scott didn't save you when you died on the shuttle, but I saved you when you nearly died on the Blackbird /flex.

Then again, Hama was notorious for fan-wanking characters. I've heard the phrase, oh that run was Hama'd a few times!

[yanapryde]

http://stormantic.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/arthur-adams-magik.jpg

[yanapryde]

http://magik.strength-within.net/images/scans/uxm/part2/an009/001.png

My girl with her crew, giving a good glare like she does

[yanapryde]

http://magik.strength-within.net/images/scans/uxm/part2/an010/011.png

Aaaaand her she is being the ENFORCER of the New Mutants, alongside big Bro Big "C" and little Sir-cuts-a-lot Wolvie.

[MuhollandDriver]

yes i remember that annual....Chris Claremont at his best..the alien being is Impossible Man...i remember him in Silver Surfer comics also.

i loved how the New Mutants defeated the adolescent Avengers in creative ways....Illyana teleporting on the Black Knight....it was great!

[NielsVanEekelen]

Anyways, after reading it I realised I'd totally forgotten that when Wolverine was hovering on the brink of death, Illyana had appeared to him and tried to take him into the light. And you know what stopped him? Jean Grey..

Ah, of course! I'd seen Illyana listed as appearing in that issue, but couldn't remember how--but that rings a bell. :smile:

[MartinRedmond]

Illyana and Double Standards

Illyana mistreats Rhane Sinclair, but that's what HAS TO BE DONE!!! >:l
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2258/mistreat01rz3.jpg

Illyana gets mistreated, however, it has to turn into a big drama production. :biggrin:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/414/mistreat02om9.jpg

[yanapryde]

awwww
criticizing someone's behavior whose only got two fifths of their soul?
she's bound to have more temper tantrums than your average teen and make a few dozen improper decisions here and there

I defend you till my last breath Illyana!

[MartinRedmond]

Pff Rahne took it much better. Little snowflake reminds us all she still puts the "Princess" into DemonicPrincess.

[yanapryde]

Pff Rahne took it much better. Little snowflake reminds us all she still puts the "Princess" into DemonicPrincess.

GASP!!

Are you bashing Illyana now? Martin!!! I'm shocked!
This is a PRO-ILLYANA area. This is the non-bashing section. I've checked the guest list and I didn't see Grumpy Guss or Judgemental Judy so take your negatives elsewheres.

I'll be watching you now Mister!
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/c/cd/Illyana_Rasputin_Earth-295.jpg/200px-Illyana_Rasputin_Earth-295.jpg

[yanapryde]

Even Ms.Bell....who would clearly play Illyana in a live adaptation of the New Mutants is shocked.

SHOCKED!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XZ-NrM6Icko/RbKm-LOoMGI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/VJhylydAuio/s320/Veronica_Mars_3x09_212.jpg
:eek:

[Saint]

These news have me distraught. As I enjoy both Illyana and Jean Grey a great deal. I guess nobody's perfect, not even Jean. She should've minded her own business and let Illyana do has need be. Illyana was clearly the better person in this over Jean.

Actually, you got it wrong. Illyana PUSHES Wolverine AWAY from the light. Wolvie wants to enter the light and end it all but Illyana won't let him.

[SayOcean]

what issue was that in....

also what is our russian princess upset about that she wont let her fellow NM near her??


btw all this talk about illyana has just made my day happy....school sucks

[MartinRedmond]

Actually, you got it wrong. Illyana PUSHES Wolverine AWAY from the light. Wolvie wants to enter the light and end it all but Illyana won't let him.

It was the 90s; it doesn't count!

[MartinRedmond]

what issue was that in....

also what is our russian princess upset about that she wont let her fellow NM near her??


btw all this talk about illyana has just made my day happy....school sucks

NM 51
She throws a fit because she doesn't want to go back to earth, which would've left them all stranded in space, in the middle of a war, no less! However Illyana has no trouble constantly grabbing Rhane, aggressing her for the good of the entire team. In one storyline, she gambles selling out all of her friends for victory. Then at some point, she pounders just leaving them behind. :biggrin: It gives Illyana some personality.

[SayOcean]

what areyou taling about when they were in the with the starjammers...and gossameyr was there???/??

[MartinRedmond]

Nah, they met up with Xavier and the Starjammers somehow. Gossamyr was some other pile of crap after New Mutants was cancelled with issue#54.

[Imraith Nimphais]

Seeing those scans just reminded me how much I miss Bill Sienkiewicz...he drew a great Illyana...and I absolutey fell in love with Art Adams' version of the Darkchild...and Divid Finch's cover in X-Infernus #1 is just pure HAWT-ness!

[NielsVanEekelen]

Oh, phooey. Rahne did nothing but judge Illyana. "She's a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch! Eviiiiiiiiiiiiiiil! (Burn her!)" Wolfgirl deserved everything she got.

Also, the reason Illyana didn't want to teleport back to Earth is because all the way away in Shi'Ar space, she was safe from Limbo. So yeah, she just didn't want to give up her soul to get home.

And Yanapryde, I like to cast Rachel Nichols as Illyana.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3532/101799108133illyanaraspjk6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/101799108133illyanaraspjk6.jpg/1/w400.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img12/101799108133illyanaraspjk6.jpg/1/)

[yanapryde]

I find this casting acceptable.
I stand by my Kristen 100% but if she were unavailable, I would accept your choice whole heartedly.

Also, I very much enjoy that illustration of Magik. Its a favorite of mine. I have a folder on my computer full of favorite images of Magik I've found online.:biggrin:

[NielsVanEekelen]

Also, I very much enjoy that illustration of Magik. Its a favorite of mine. I have a folder on my computer full of favorite images of Magik I've found online.:biggrin:

Then we are much alike.:wink:

[yanapryde]

Then we are much alike.:wink:

Splendid.
You and I shall lead the mob that will storm Marvel H.Q. if our girl isn't restored to the X-Men proper post Infernus. Restored, with some soul (I'll settle for some) and of course she'll have to be POWERED. None of this no mutant powers B.S.

We will don halfs-ies armor and flaming swords and leave no editor or big wig standing in our path!

[MartinRedmond]

Even Ms.Bell....who would clearly play Illyana in a live adaptation of the New Mutants is shocked.

SHOCKED!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XZ-NrM6Icko/RbKm-LOoMGI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/VJhylydAuio/s320/Veronica_Mars_3x09_212.jpg
:eek:

She's not a genuine blonde, I say no.

[yanapryde]

She's not a genuine blonde, I say no.

what do you mean she's not a genuine blonde?
her hair lies? its sarcastic of its tone? hue?
She's a natural blonde.
You just like to argue with me. :mad:

Oooh wait. You're talking about the OTHER chick. Not Kristen.
Nevah' mind!

[sunofdarkchild]

Any chance of getting a pettition started for Marvel to make a movie out of the Magik: Storm and Illyana mini-series?

[yanapryde]

OH MY GOD SHE'S BACK!!!!

Y'KNOW! MORE SO THOUGH! SHE'S IN A UNIFORM!!! AND TELEPORTING!
CHECK OUT THAT CBR PAGE ABOUT THE X-PANEL!!!

I'M FREAKING OUT!!! ITS THE BEST NEWS EVER!!!

[SayOcean]

I think kristen Bell looks too american to be Magik, her face just doesnt look like magiks

[yanapryde]

I think kristen Bell looks too american to be Magik, her face just doesnt look like magiks

OH PLEASE!
KRISTEN WHO??
I don't even care anymore.....MAGIK IS IN UNIFORM AND ALIVE AND TELEPORTING AND SHE'S GOT HER SWORD AND SHE'S GOT A BUNCH OF ARROWS COMIN' OUT HER SHOULDER WHICH SUCKS BUT SHE'S BACK AND SHE GONNA BEATS SOME HEADS!!!

[SayOcean]

what are you serious.. where do you go to look at this

[yanapryde]

GO TO THE MAIN CBR page...its on the X-Panel article thingie....
its so beautiful:biggrin:

[sunofdarkchild]

Apparently Magik's returning for good (yay!!!) and going to be in the new New Mutants book. About time. Though I guess no ine cares about my pettition idea?

[yanapryde]

Apparently Magik's returning for good (yay!!!) and going to be in the new New Mutants book. About time. Though I guess no ine cares about my pettition idea?

so so sorry sdc.
although I think the chances of Ms. Rasputin getting her own MOVIE are slim to none...and her fan following is (if we're going according to the number of posters in this forum) not as huge as say...wolverine's....so I can't see the list of names being as long as would be necessary...

I'll sign.:rolleyes:

[Imraith Nimphais]

I just wish they (the artists) find a better way to integrate her mystical amour and her uniform...in fact they should all get new costumes and burn the blue and yellow training unforms...they are adults now...they should start dressing the part.

[B. Kuwanger]

But it's not like it's the old NM uniform. Wait until the sketches come out, I guarantee it won't be any worse than whatever the characters are wearing in Uncanny.

Ah, Illyana's back. More praise and exclamation marks!

[MuhollandDriver]

Wonderful news, everyone!

Let's raise our soul-swords for Illyana!

*steal's Pixie's*

[yanapryde]

Wonderful news, everyone!

Let's raise our soul-swords for Illyana!

*steal's Pixie's*

Muholland!!!
You bent Pixie's wing! That was harsh.

*hands Pixie her biking helmet*

There.
Back to where you came from.:cool:

[MartinRedmond]

Illyana doesn't need to bring other characters down to be kewl. I'm sure she'll ignore Pixie just fine... or manipulate her to her own ends. >:D

[MuhollandDriver]

Muholland!!!
You bent Pixie's wing! That was harsh.

*hands Pixie her biking helmet*

There.
Back to where you came from.:cool:

Oh Yana You are way too nice!

*chops Pixie's wings off with her own soul spork*

Don't worry. Her all-powerful pixiesh self took Anole's power to regenerate!

They will probably look like tacky tie-dye fabric once regrown.

[yanapryde]

Oh Yana You are way too nice!

*chops Pixie's wings off with her own soul spork*

Don't worry. Her all-powerful pixiesh self took Anole's power to regenerate!

They will probably look like tacky tie-dye fabric once regrown.

She WOULD go ripping off ANOTHER COOL MUTANT'S power to try to spice up her appeal.

pffft.
Typical Fairy.

[Prodigy55]

YAYAYAYAY!!!!!
I love this news.

What do you think her new uniform will look like?
I don't think they'll be using the old 80's ones will they?

[yanapryde]

YAYAYAYAY!!!!!
I love this news.

What do you think her new uniform will look like?
I don't think they'll be using the old 80's ones will they?

From the look of the preview page, where she seems to be all battered and bruised...and....arrowed (?) the pattern on her uniform suggests an X pattern similar to the original X-Factor uniforms (where it spreads across the entire suit) and she's got a little X-insignia-badge on the left hand side of her chest.

I bet she'll look fantastic once its colored.
And no, I doubt they'll sport their trainee uniforms.

[darkclaw]

Hey, guys, I've been a fan of Magik for years and years, could probably answer just about any Magik question. Problem is, I don't have any of the books and need some help. I commissioned a pic of our favorite mutant from Jeff Moy and the costume I would like to see her drawn in is the hooded 'mage' garb (the graduation costume). Problem is, he doesn't know what it looks like and I can't find any scans of it on the net? Any of you have the issues with her in that costume and be willing to scan it?



Thanx!

[Darkchylde]

From the look of the preview page, where she seems to be all battered and bruised...and....arrowed (?) the pattern on her uniform suggests an X pattern similar to the original X-Factor uniforms (where it spreads across the entire suit) and she's got a little X-insignia-badge on the left hand side of her chest.

I bet she'll look fantastic once its colored.
And no, I doubt they'll sport their trainee uniforms.

First, let me say great job to Yanapryde for starting this thread. It never occurred to me that Illyana didn't have an apreciation thread of her own, so I'm glad you took charge and started one.

This thread needs more fantastic Illyana pictures, though. If I knew how to embed photos into the body of my message, I'd be ALL OVER IT!

With that said, I'm loving the image of Illyana in The New Mutants vol. 3 that was released at the NY Comic Con this weekend. The arrows sticking out of her back - what or who could have done this to our Little Snowflake?! Further, did anyone else notice the shattered remnants of... something scattered about Illyana when she emerged from her stepping disc? It looked like it could have been her eldritch armor, broken into tiny pieces.

I didn't think her armor could be broken. I wonder what could have happened? Regardless of the circumstances, however, Illyana will make them pay.

[sunofdarkchild]

I don't know why, but I get the feeling that the arrows may have been fired by Dani Moonstar. It does seem that the series is being set up so that once again the rest of the New Mutants don't trust Illyana again.

A side question: In X-Infernus 2 Illyana used some pretty darn powerful spells on earth. Now that she's getting her soul back and looking human again are the folks at marvel again going to make her powerless as a sorceress on earth? That was always so lame in the original New Mutants.

[sunofdarkchild]

As for what the shattered something was, I doubt its her armor. Maybe she was thrown through a wall before she could teleport out?

But look at her. Three arrows in her right shoulder and she still holds her soulsword in her right hand. I knew she was tough but... wow.

[Darkchylde]

I don't know why, but I get the feeling that the arrows may have been fired by Dani Moonstar. It does seem that the series is being set up so that once again the rest of the New Mutants don't trust Illyana again.

A side question: In X-Infernus 2 Illyana used some pretty darn powerful spells on earth. Now that she's getting her soul back and looking human again are the folks at marvel again going to make her powerless as a sorceress on earth? That was always so lame in the original New Mutants.


Dani Moonstar, eh? Interesting. I'd figured perhaps it was some demonic horde that was after her (though I suppose that would make this a follow-up to X-Infernus).

I wonder who's after Illyana? My first thought in reaction to the adversary who wants to reunite the New Mutants for a specific reason was the Demon Bear, but he's already been used in X-Force (or a version of the Demon Bear showed up, anyway).

Maybe Belasco? But nahh, that's what Witchfire is for, I suppose.

Who then, who?? It better not be Donald Pierce. AGAIN.

And I still maintain that the stuff that came out of Illyana's stepping disc was pieces of her eldritch armor. The arrows sticking out of her side seem to have pierced her armor. Perhaps they caused the armor to crack? But is that possible? Unless the arrows are mystical in nature?

I know, I know, I'm getting ahead of myself.

And I hope that now that Illyana is alive once more, that limitation that weakened her magicks on Earth has been removed. As the Darkchild, she pretty much kicked the X-Men's collective asses in X-Infernus # 2, so it'd be pretty cool to see her use her magickal abilities more.

(Though it was never explained, I'd always imagined that Belasco placed some kind of block on Illyana to keep her from accessing her spells while on Earth. Or perhaps it was the Elder Gods. Whatever the case is, maybe that block has been removed following Illyana's death and subsequent resurrection.)

[sunofdarkchild]

The real reason she couldn't cast spells on earth had nothing to do with Belasco or anything marvel universe related. It was because if she could use magic then the answer to every problem would have been one of her spells and none of the other New Mutants would have had a thing to do. I always thought it was a mistake to make her a New Mutant for that reason.

[NielsVanEekelen]

Double post.

[NielsVanEekelen]

Hey, guys, I've been a fan of Magik for years and years, could probably answer just about any Magik question. Problem is, I don't have any of the books and need some help. I commissioned a pic of our favorite mutant from Jeff Moy and the costume I would like to see her drawn in is the hooded 'mage' garb (the graduation costume). Problem is, he doesn't know what it looks like and I can't find any scans of it on the net? Any of you have the issues with her in that costume and be willing to scan it?



Thanx!

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This help?

Now you are obligated to post a scan of your commission if you get it, of course.:wink:

[jarrod]

Whatever happens, I hope Illyana stays a teenager and isn't artificially aged just so she'll be in line with the other New Muties. I think there's some good story potential and character beats in her being the same age while Sam, Dani, etc have grown up. There's an interesting dynamic in the team's most powerful member also being it's youngest and I think you could get into some good Kitty/Jubilee style plots about where Illyana actually "belongs" versus the other underage students in SF.

[NielsVanEekelen]

Whatever happens, I hope Illyana stays a teenager and isn't artificially aged just so she'll be in line with the other New Muties. I think there's some good story potential and character beats in her being the same age while Sam, Dani, etc have grown up. There's an interesting dynamic in the team's most powerful member also being it's youngest and I think you could get into some good Kitty/Jubilee style plots about where Illyana actually "belongs" versus the other underage students in SF.

I've been pondering the same thing. Fingers crossed for a Zeb Wells X-Position soon to ask the age question.

[sunofdarkchild]

Whatever happens, I hope Illyana stays a teenager and isn't artificially aged just so she'll be in line with the other New Muties. I think there's some good story potential and character beats in her being the same age while Sam, Dani, etc have grown up. There's an interesting dynamic in the team's most powerful member also being it's youngest and I think you could get into some good Kitty/Jubilee style plots about where Illyana actually "belongs" versus the other underage students in SF.

Yeah. She never "graduated" like the other New Mutants, although sacrificing herself to save the world may count. From the interviews it does seem like Illyana will be just as mistrusted by her teammates as she was when she first joined, especially by Magma. OMG!! I just realized when writing the word Magma, could the villian of the first arc be Selene?

[Seikun21]

Yeah. She never "graduated" like the other New Mutants, although sacrificing herself to save the world may count. From the interviews it does seem like Illyana will be just as mistrusted by her teammates as she was when she first joined, especially by Magma. OMG!! I just realized when writing the word Magma, could the villian of the first arc be Selene?

She's being used in X-Force. I don't see it happening.

[NielsVanEekelen]

Agreed. Anyone have other ideas of who that villain might be?

Selene, the Demon Bear and Magus are tied up in X-Force plotlines.
The demonic contingent from Limbo (though I wouldn't complain about their continued use) are featured in X-Infernus.
Pierce has just been in the rather unsuccesful Young X-Men a lot.
Emma Frost and the Hellions were the New Mutants' real arch-nemeses, but that hardly seems likely either.

Legion?

Or do we know anyone who could've shot Illyana with arrows?

[sunofdarkchild]

What we know for sure is that she was in an intense fight, most likely by herself, as she appeared by herselfm, against what was probably a small army, was engaged in close quarter combat and long range combat as she was beaten and shot, and that something got destroyed and was transported with her in pieces. I would guess that whatever she was fighting was being led by a magic user, otherwise she wouldn't have been fighting by herself. She did have a modern x-uniform, so she could have already been on a team, but I don't think she'd teleport away without her teammates. This may be what leads her to reform the New Mutants.

I still think its impressive that she held her sword with an arm that had three arrows in it.

BTW. I may kill someone at marvel if it turns out that Pixie is the one who did that. Not a chance, but Pixie will always hate Illyana. There may be a lot of fights between them, but Pixie is incable of EVER beating Magik. In the Pixie parade there are lines Marvel must not cross.

[sunofdarkchild]

Has the Shadow King been used recently? Is he still alive? He has ample reason to kill Illyana again.

[NielsVanEekelen]

Possibly--I'm theorizing, anyway--Illyana will restore Pixie's soul at the conclusion of X-Infernus, as part of her own redemption.

The Shadow King's in the Worlds Apart mini.

[sunofdarkchild]

Of course she will, but the enmity between them won't end that easily, at least not realistically.

[MuhollandDriver]

Actually....i'd prefer Illyana aged.

Then again....she is timeless :)

It seems this team will get young adult plots..she deserves the same...i don't want her to be like Molly from Runaways...the brat of the team.

[sunofdarkchild]

Look at that picture of her, costume torn, all battered and bruised, three arrows in her shoulder, and she still gets back up for more. Look at that picture and call her a brat.

Actually, in the original series Rahne and Roberto were very much the brats of the team. Roberto might be again.

[The Black Guardian]

Actually....i'd prefer Illyana aged.

Then again....she is timeless :)

It seems this team will get young adult plots..she deserves the same...i don't want her to be like Molly from Runaways...the brat of the team.
Agreed.
Look at that picture of her, costume torn, all battered and bruised, three arrows in her shoulder, and she still gets back up for more. Look at that picture and call her a brat.

Actually, in the original series Rahne and Roberto were very much the brats of the team. Roberto might be again.
I very much hope not. These are supposed to be adults, after all. I can take Berto getting a chip on his shoulder now and then, but no whiny crap, from any of them, please!

[darkclaw]

Agreed. Anyone have other ideas of who that villain might be?

Selene, the Demon Bear and Magus are tied up in X-Force plotlines.
The demonic contingent from Limbo (though I wouldn't complain about their continued use) are featured in X-Infernus.
Pierce has just been in the rather unsuccesful Young X-Men a lot.
Emma Frost and the Hellions were the New Mutants' real arch-nemeses, but that hardly seems likely either.

Legion?

Or do we know anyone who could've shot Illyana with arrows?

I agree it looks like the arrow shooter may be Dani, quick to judge (and, if so, forgetting her own past acting as a double-agent and plant within the MLF...talk about TRUST issues!

My truest hope is that they come up with some original villains for them to combat, something truly worthy of this group, while not giving in to the fact that they started out as "X-Men, Jr." (or, as Kitty put it in the old days, "X-Babies"). These are complex people who became adults mentally long before they did physically. Even with the whole "few mutants left in the world" scenario, don't rule out the viability of a revival of the Hellions. Several members of that team remain unaccounted for or (again, this a better possibility given the current teams on the X-Books) is that these will be new or little used villains and they will simply ape the Hellions name.

These are mutants who, in their youth, took on forces from Asgard that regularly give Thor trouble and won (speaking of which, does anyone know the status of Dani's Valkyrie power?) I pray they don't sick folks like the Ani-Mater (read: 2nd rate High Evolutionary) on them. Legion would be cool, if they play their cards right and let him age, too. It would be interesting to see how bad Jack Wayne might have become after all this time!

[darkclaw]

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This help?

Now you are obligated to post a scan of your commission if you get it, of course.:wink:

NATURALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the fact that I am asking, you can guess my vote for the ostumes, variations of the graduation outfits while, I agree, finding a way to blend them so it's obvious they are a team. The ORIGINAL X-Factor did so quite successfully.

[NielsVanEekelen]

It seems this team will get young adult plots..she deserves the same...i don't want her to be like Molly from Runaways...the brat of the team.

She was still fifteen, sixteen when Inferno took place, so she certainly wouldn't be Molly. She'd be old enough to keep up with the rest, certainly after everything she's been through.

I agree it looks like the arrow shooter may be Dani, quick to judge (and, if so, forgetting her own past acting as a double-agent and plant within the MLF...talk about TRUST issues!

I have my doubts that it's Dani, but I suppose that all depends on how X-Infernus ends.

Trust issues can be good, if no one is played as excessively paranoid. I'm hoping Illyana will manage to suppress her demonic side, but there'll be a constant threat of it breaking free again--that'll give good character conflict and drama.

By the fact that I am asking, you can guess my vote for the ostumes, variations of the graduation outfits while, I agree, finding a way to blend them so it's obvious they are a team. The ORIGINAL X-Factor did so quite successfully.

I think Illyana's sorceress garb was the only graduation costume I really liked, so I dunno. I'd like something to hark back to the original team costumes with some updates and personal touches for each member.

And a zillion pouches, of course.:wink:

[darkclaw]

[QUOTE=sunofdarkchild;8376514]The real reason she couldn't cast spells on earth had nothing to do with Belasco or anything marvel universe related. It was because if she could use magic then the answer to every problem would have been one of her spells and none of the other New Mutants would have had a thing to do. I always thought it was a mistake to make her a New Mutant for that reason.


Well, I partially agree with you, but if we go by character and story arc, Illyana's power was strongest in Limbo, where she reigned asabsolute ruler but also as that realm's answer to Dr. Strange. Those who follow the Dr. Strange books know that there have been many times times the Sorcerer Supreme has been decidedly weaker than his opponent because of where he was. Same principle,

Now, that being said, I also tilt my head in favor of the "Belasco manipulating Illyana's magic" theory. He would want to keep her under his thumb, so he would not allow her full access to her power where it could be monitored and she could be further trained in it by those who actually CARE for her! If anyone remembers when Belasco whisked away Kitty, Piotr and Kurt in Excalibur, it seemed that not only were they being tested but, bigger question, why were there so many variations of them in Limbo? My answer: Belasco was studying them.

That being said, I'd like to pose two questions to the thread:

1) On this basis, what do think the likelyhood is that this will be a different Illyana, one from a similar dimension but not the same (after all, they still haven't fully explained what that is buried in the ground that died from the Legacy Virus...stupid and pointless a plotline as that WAS...)

2) If (I hope) Illyana is now allowed to keep her magicks on Earth, could anyone else see a team-up between Illyana and Earth's Sorcerer Supreme?

[NielsVanEekelen]

1) On this basis, what do think the likelyhood is that this will be a different Illyana, one from a similar dimension but not the same (after all, they still haven't fully explained what that is buried in the ground that died from the Legacy Virus...stupid and pointless a plotline as that WAS...)

2) If (I hope) Illyana is now allowed to keep her magicks on Earth, could anyone else see a team-up between Illyana and Earth's Sorcerer Supreme?

1) Personally, I just stick with the Limbo timeloop explanation--In Uncanny #160 a trapped-in-Limbo Storm used Limbo's wacky time to prevent herself and the other X-Men from being trapped in Limbo, thus creating duplicates. One team died in Limbo, the other was saved and returned to Earth.

Basically the same happened to Illyana during Inferno--her younger self was saved from being trapped and raised in Limbo. But that didn't erase the older version, it just put her in limbo (lower case, here) until Belasco restored/pulled out of the timestream/resurrected her.

2) Illyana's on an upcoming New Avengers cover (#51?) with some other magic users, for a storyline about who will be the new Sorcerer Supreme...

(In my own version of Illyana's resurrection, which I plotted for years until it actually happened, she became Strange's apprentice, so yes, I'm all for team-ups.) :biggrin:

[jarrod]

She was still fifteen, sixteen when Inferno took place, so she certainly wouldn't be Molly. She'd be old enough to keep up with the rest, certainly after everything she's been through.
Agreed. Ilyana was almost too advanced for the New Mutants before imo, she really could've been an X-Man from the outset (like Kitty, Rogue or Rachel).

Plus, if they age her it'll likely be by having another 5+ years in limbo offpanel... it's needless. I'd much rather have Yana dealing with "losing time" on 616 and maybe feeling a bit isolated or left behind and unsure of her place.

[Darkchylde]

[QUOTE=sunofdarkchild;8376514]The real reason she couldn't cast spells on earth had nothing to do with Belasco or anything marvel universe related. It was because if she could use magic then the answer to every problem would have been one of her spells and none of the other New Mutants would have had a thing to do. I always thought it was a mistake to make her a New Mutant for that reason.


Well, I partially agree with you, but if we go by character and story arc, Illyana's power was strongest in Limbo, where she reigned asabsolute ruler but also as that realm's answer to Dr. Strange. Those who follow the Dr. Strange books know that there have been many times times the Sorcerer Supreme has been decidedly weaker than his opponent because of where he was. Same principle,

Now, that being said, I also tilt my head in favor of the "Belasco manipulating Illyana's magic" theory. He would want to keep her under his thumb, so he would not allow her full access to her power where it could be monitored and she could be further trained in it by those who actually CARE for her! If anyone remembers when Belasco whisked away Kitty, Piotr and Kurt in Excalibur, it seemed that not only were they being tested but, bigger question, why were there so many variations of them in Limbo? My answer: Belasco was studying them.

That being said, I'd like to pose two questions to the thread:

1) On this basis, what do think the likelyhood is that this will be a different Illyana, one from a similar dimension but not the same (after all, they still haven't fully explained what that is buried in the ground that died from the Legacy Virus...stupid and pointless a plotline as that WAS...)

2) If (I hope) Illyana is now allowed to keep her magicks on Earth, could anyone else see a team-up between Illyana and Earth's Sorcerer Supreme?



In response to sonofdarkchuild: Logically, I know why Illyana's sorcery was limited on Earth: It would be too easy a plot device to have Illyana use her magick to save the day in every adventure. What I'm saying, however, is that an actual explanation for Illyana's limitation was never given. In one issue of The New Mutants, Illyana was hurling mystical bolts of energy at S'ym while on Earth, but several issues later during "The Demon Bear Saga," Illyana stated that her magicks were restricted on Earth to the use of her Soulsword.

There was no actual reason given for this, so taking the 'deux ex machina' plot point aside, I suppose that Illyana's magicks were more potent in Limbo, but for whatever reason - perhaps Belasco or the Elder Gods - her magicks were severely restrained on Earth. (Remember, Belasco once kept his teleportation spells hidden from Illyana, in Storm and Illyana: Magik, and actually prevented the Darkchild from teleporting in New X-Men's "The Quest for Magik" storyline - a tactic that necessitated the Darkchild training Pixie to teleport.)

Perhaps now that Illyana is alive once more, her spells, no longer bound by whatever forces prevented her from accessing them previously, will be at her disposal whenever outside of Limbo.

[justinkos91]

Am I the only one who enjoys Magik with an axe?
It just makes her look much more cooler

[Imraith Nimphais]

[QUOTE=darkclaw;8380712]



In response to sonofdarkchuild: Logically, I know why Illyana's sorcery was limited on Earth: It would be too easy a plot device to have Illyana use her magick to save the day in every adventure. What I'm saying, however, is that an actual explanation for Illyana's limitation was never given. In one issue of The New Mutants, Illyana was hurling mystical bolts of energy at S'ym while on Earth, but several issues later during "The Demon Bear Saga," Illyana stated that her magicks were restricted on Earth to the use of her Soulsword.

There was no actual reason given for this, so taking the 'deux ex machina' plot point aside, I suppose that Illyana's magicks were more potent in Limbo, but for whatever reason - perhaps Belasco or the Elder Gods - her magicks were severely restrained on Earth. (Remember, Belasco once kept his teleportation spells hidden from Illyana, in Storm and Illyana: Magik, and actually prevented the Darkchild from teleporting in New X-Men's "The Quest for Magik" storyline - a tactic that necessitated the Darkchild training Pixie to teleport.)

Perhaps now that Illyana is alive once more, her spells, no longer bound by whatever forces prevented her from accessing them previously, will be at her disposal whenever outside of Limbo.

This would be so frakkin wonder-full!...Hopefully at the end of X-Infernus, Illyana is absolute ruler of Limbo once more with all the might and power inherited from Belasco which *should* enable her to use her sorcery while on earth...She'll make an awesome Sorceress Supreme, wielding both Black and White Magic.:biggrin:

[Imraith Nimphais]

...and even if she looses complete control of Limbo, and is cast out...which, considering all the bad memories, is not necessarily a bad thing...then hopefully she would still be able to cast spells and work magic...it's been quite some time since the x-folk had an A-level sorceress in any cast...and I SO love a bit of magic here and there in my stories, quite!

[yanapryde]

...and even if she looses complete control of Limbo, and is cast out...which, considering all the bad memories, is not necessarily a bad thing...then hopefully she would still be able to cast spells and work magic...it's been quite some time since the x-folk had an A-level sorceress in any cast...and I SO love a bit of magic here and there in my stories, quite!

I wouldn't mind her having an aversion to magic, personally. I mean, magic is what caused all of her problems to begin with. And I don't know how X-Infernus will be resolved but I think it wouldn't mind Illyana being hesitant to use her magical powers, if they are restored/stay intact.
Soulsword? Sure. Slice away.
Spells? I could go either way.
Teleportation via stepping discs? A MUST

[sunofdarkchild]

Yanapryde: I wouldn't mind her having an aversion to magic, personally. I mean, magic is what caused all of her problems to begin with. And I don't know how X-Infernus will be resolved but I think it wouldn't mind Illyana being hesitant to use her magical powers, if they are restored/stay intact.

That's actually my real theory for why she couldn't cast her spells on earth. She was too frightened of her own power and deliberately limited her powers. That would be why she could cast energy blasts with more punch than either Sam or Roberto pack in issue 14, the first time she uses her powers out of Limbo, but ten issues later she couldn't cast any spells (except that she did whenever the editors or writers needed it for plot reasons, see issue 52, where she magically changes the decor of her room to show Magneto how evil she is). Once she was active in the New Mutants she had to cut off her powers to keep herself from missusing them. I also think that that is why the soulsword could only affect magical creatures; it could do so much more, but she wouldn't let it.

[yanapryde]

Yanapryde: I wouldn't mind her having an aversion to magic, personally. I mean, magic is what caused all of her problems to begin with. And I don't know how X-Infernus will be resolved but I think it wouldn't mind Illyana being hesitant to use her magical powers, if they are restored/stay intact.

That's actually my real theory for why she couldn't cast her spells on earth. She was too frightened of her own power and deliberately limited her powers. That would be why she could cast energy blasts with more punch than either Sam or Roberto pack in issue 14, the first time she uses her powers out of Limbo, but ten issues later she couldn't cast any spells (except that she did whenever the editors or writers needed it for plot reasons, see issue 52, where she magically changes the decor of her room to show Magneto how evil she is). Once she was active in the New Mutants she had to cut off her powers to keep herself from missusing them. I also think that that is why the soulsword could only affect magical creatures; it could do so much more, but she wouldn't let it.

I had two theories about her magical use while outside of Limbo.

1) I thought she felt it was less likely to succeed (spells) while on earth, so why bother? Why not just head to Limbo and do it there where it was bound to succeed.

2) I thought maybe it was fear. Fear that continual use of magic would corrupt her further and quicker. But while in Limbo, it made everything easier, so she had few reservations about casting spells etc there.

[sunofdarkchild]

Your second reason is about the same as mine; I only added the idea that she limited the soulsword as well.

[yanapryde]

Your second reason is about the same as mine; I only added the idea that she limited the soulsword as well.

So.
We think similarily. Intriguing...

Perhaps you should have the open seat in the Magik Illuminati.
The other chairs would/should be occupied by Darkchylde:biggrin: , Mullhollanddriver:wink: and Xaviersmisprint:smile:

We require a fifth to make a pentagram.:evilsmile:

[sunofdarkchild]

How do I join?

[yanapryde]

How do I join?

You just did.
Expect your membership letter in the mail in 5-7 business days. ha ha.
Inside your membership letter you'll find your own membership ID number as well as a catalouge featuring the latest in soul-weapons.

Choose wisely.:wink:

Be sure to read over the rules 3 times to ensure you remember them all.
431 rules in all.

[sunofdarkchild]

Hmmm...... I'll take the soul slingshot. That'll sting Mephisto's buns. Speaking of tall, red, and ugly, when's the next meeting of our pentagram with the lords of Hell?

[yanapryde]

Hmmm...... I'll take the soul slingshot. That'll sting Mephisto's buns. Speaking of tall, red, and ugly, when's the next meeting of our pentagram with the lords of Hell?

Either May 14th, 1988 or August 6th, 2013.
Yay for Limbo and its wonky sense of time.:wink:

[sunofdarkchild]

Either way I'll be 2 years younger, but our good old Magik will be the same age she is now.

Hela's not invited though, right? If I see her she's going down, courtesy of my new soul slingshot.

[darkclaw]

In the first appearance of Illyana ("Do you believe in Magik?" NM15) Sam mentions that Illyana's birthday was coming up as a means of including her in the party they are going to throw for Stevie Hunter. Gven that it was winter and there were no sign (that I saw, anyway) of holiday-esque decorations, anyone want to take a crack at an estimated birthday for her? I know the comics hate to hit dates like that, but what's the opinion of the room?

[darkclaw]

[QUOTE=Darkchylde;8381535]

This would be so frakkin wonder-full!...Hopefully at the end of X-Infernus, Illyana is absolute ruler of Limbo once more with all the might and power inherited from Belasco which *should* enable her to use her sorcery while on earth...She'll make an awesome Sorceress Supreme, wielding both Black and White Magic.:biggrin:

I agree completely, but I am in high doubt they will do it if the intend to return Illyana to the New Mutants. It would be too difficult to support her there and in a stand alone title without sending ALL the NM on a mystic path.

[darkclaw]

Am I the only one who enjoys Magik with an axe?
It just makes her look much more cooler

It may look her look cooler, but the sword has been the symbol of authority and I really don't see Illyana abandoning it (it IS her SOUL after all). Besides, the sword is more of a lethal beauty, gorgeous to look at while absolutely deadly to the core, like her, able to protect or kill. The axe has one purpose and one purpose only, to brutally chop things to bits. Doesn't quite fit, IMHO.:tongue:

[sunofdarkchild]

In the first appearance of Illyana ("Do you believe in Magik?" NM15) Sam mentions that Illyana's birthday was coming up as a means of including her in the party they are going to throw for Stevie Hunter. Gven that it was winter and there were no sign (that I saw, anyway) of holiday-esque decorations, anyone want to take a crack at an estimated birthday for her? I know the comics hate to hit dates like that, but what's the opinion of the room?

Actually, in that issue (which was not even her first appearance, even as a sorceress. She was introduced in Giant Sized X-Men 1 and became a teenager in Uncanny 16.) Illyana stated that it was her birthday that day, although Marvel could never get her age straight. Was she six or seven when she was kidnapped? And was she thirteen, fourteen, or fifteen when she escaped? Given the time that passed between this issue, the next few issues, and then Uncanny issue 188 where Illyana appeared, which were all in the winter, we can assume that New Mutants 14 took place early in the winter.

[MuhollandDriver]

I wouldn't mind her having an aversion to magic, personally. I mean, magic is what caused all of her problems to begin with. And I don't know how X-Infernus will be resolved but I think it wouldn't mind Illyana being hesitant to use her magical powers, if they are restored/stay intact.
Soulsword? Sure. Slice away.
Spells? I could go either way.
Teleportation via stepping discs? A MUST

Illyana must have her darkchild self....her soulsword...her magic..and her disks.

Illyana without these is like Wolverine without his admantium, claws, and healing.

Say no more.

[MartinRedmond]

All Illyana needs is her bossy attitude.

[NielsVanEekelen]

That, and some good mutant angst.

*sings* Mutant, mutant, angst, angst, mutant, mutant, angst, angst

[MartinRedmond]

Does anybody have a scan of Illyana getting her crew to jazz up the diner table? I forget what issue it's from. I think the new mutants keep delegating setting up the table to one another.

[jarrod]

Does anybody have a scan of Illyana getting her crew to jazz up the diner table? I forget what issue it's from. I think the new mutants keep delegating setting up the table to one another.
LOL! That was from Annual 2 or 3, but I can't remember which. Alan Davis drew it iirc.

[darkclaw]

Actually, in that issue (which was not even her first appearance, even as a sorceress. She was introduced in Giant Sized X-Men 1 and became a teenager in Uncanny 16.) Illyana stated that it was her birthday that day, although Marvel could never get her age straight. Was she six or seven when she was kidnapped? And was she thirteen, fourteen, or fifteen when she escaped? Given the time that passed between this issue, the next few issues, and then Uncanny issue 188 where Illyana appeared, which were all in the winter, we can assume that New Mutants 14 took place early in the winter.

I didn't mean to imply Illyana was never in comics before NM, I was trying to say that that was her first appearance in the NEW MUTANTS series.

[darkclaw]

LOL! That was from Annual 2 or 3, but I can't remember which. Alan Davis drew it iirc.

If memeory serves (don't quote me on this), I think this is the issue you are seeking

[MuhollandDriver]

Yes, Illyana has that dark demonic side...and it shouldn't go anywhere. However..she was also a fun, witty, charming, strong-willed gal with a touch of rebellion in her. Remember this.....writers!

[NielsVanEekelen]

I didn't mean to imply Illyana was never in comics before NM, I was trying to say that that was her first appearance in the NEW MUTANTS series.

Well, actually... she was in #1, in a scene in the UK with Moira. :tongue:

[sunofdarkchild]

Sorry, didn't mean to sound harsh; just being a comic book nerd.

You're right about the annual that has Illyana's pet demons giving a makeover to the dining room table... good times.

[sunofdarkchild]

Yes, Illyana has that dark demonic side...and it shouldn't go anywhere. However..she was also a fun, witty, charming, strong-willed gal with a touch of rebellion in her. Remember this.....writers!

I'd be fine with her losing her demonic persona after X-Infernus; by now she deserves it. She should still be a very troubled and traumatized person, however, who still never had a childhood.

One of the things that irked me in the New Mutants series was how Illyana's personality changed from issue to issue. In # 14 she felt completely out of place, didn't know how to ask if she could play in the snow with the New Mutants, and envied how "they laugh so easily, while I've forgotten how to cry." This interpretation of Illyana was always my favourite, and it was kept up through the demon bear saga.

Then in # 21 Illyana is leading a slumber party, gossiping with strangers, and giving Rahne the makeover of a lifetime. What a flip-flop. And it always struck me as false that a girl who grew up in Limbo and endured all that happened in the Magik limited series would be like that. I wonder if that was all an act by Illyana to seem normal, but that seems just as unlikely as her becoming a paty-girl after escaping Limbo.

[sunofdarkchild]

Well, actually... she was in #1, in a scene in the UK with Moira. :tongue:

And she was in issue 3, singing a memorial song for Cat on Kitty's birthday, the most touching scene in the first ten issues of the New Mutants (Apparently the alternate Storm taught her how to sing in Limbo? Well, I guess music [I]is[I] good for the soul.

[yanapryde]

I'd be fine with her losing her demonic persona after X-Infernus; by now she deserves it. She should still be a very troubled and traumatized person, however, who still never had a childhood.

One of the things that irked me in the New Mutants series was how Illyana's personality changed from issue to issue. In # 14 she felt completely out of place, didn't know how to ask if she could play in the snow with the New Mutants, and envied how "they laugh so easily, while I've forgotten how to cry." This interpretation of Illyana was always my favourite, and it was kept up through the demon bear saga.

Then in # 21 Illyana is leading a slumber party, gossiping with strangers, and giving Rahne the makeover of a lifetime. What a flip-flop. And it always struck me as false that a girl who grew up in Limbo and endured all that happened in the Magik limited series would be like that. I wonder if that was all an act by Illyana to seem normal, but that seems just as unlikely as her becoming a paty-girl after escaping Limbo.

I am right there with you man. For me, Illyana has always been a mutant first and a sorcerer second. I say this because she was going to develop mutant powers regardless, but she gained them sooner rather than later thanks to her time in Limbo. I've always clung to her because of her teleportation talent. I enjoy that aspect most, power wise.
And I also agree with you on her personality shift. I enjoy the sullen brooding Illyana and I often felt that they amped her energy levels to accomidate a certain demographic during the 80's of a mall-girl stereotype (increasing interest in clothes and boys) which could be argued typical of any teenage girl I suppose but we aren't talking about any typical teenage girl.

[sunofdarkchild]

I am right there with you man. For me, Illyana has always been a mutant first and a sorcerer second. I say this because she was going to develop mutant powers regardless, but she gained them sooner rather than later thanks to her time in Limbo. I've always clung to her because of her teleportation talent. I enjoy that aspect most, power wise.
And I also agree with you on her personality shift. I enjoy the sullen brooding Illyana and I often felt that they amped her energy levels to accomidate a certain demographic during the 80's of a mall-girl stereotype (increasing interest in clothes and boys) which could be argued typical of any teenage girl I suppose but we aren't talking about any typical teenage girl.

I see your point, but I always thought that her sorcery was at least equal to her mutant power, if not greater, in defining her. The sorcery was what ruined her life.

And whenever she was a "mall-girl" her personality was the same as Kitty Pryde's. I hate it when writers don't let characters develop as individauls. The mark of a good storyteller is having your characters "get away from you." They never let that happen with Illyana, or most characters for that matter.

[yanapryde]

I see your point, but I always thought that her sorcery was at least equal to her mutant power, if not greater, in defining her. The sorcery was what ruined her life.

And whenever she was a "mall-girl" her personality was the same as Kitty Pryde's. I hate it when writers don't let characters develop as individauls. The mark of a good storyteller is having your characters "get away from you." They never let that happen with Illyana, or most characters for that matter.

Right right. I didn't mean to say that her sorcery powers weren't formidable or that her teleporting was stronger or anything like that. I just meant that I always like that she was a teleporter more. I thought it was cool that she was a sorceress too but I am a sucker for a hot blonde teleporter. Her sorcery powers definitely defined her character much much more though throughout her time as Magik. And given that they DID ruin her life (while in limbo AND after) that is why I wouldn't mind her being relieved of that burden post Infernus.

[sunofdarkchild]

I'm looking now at the X-Infernus 3 preview. Did Illyana get weaker when she got part of her soul back? She went down way too easily, and the same way she beat Pixie (grrr...). I was expecting her to have Witchfire at her mercy but be distracted by the arrival of the X-Men. Cast some spells, girl! I guess having the beatrix medallion gives Witchfire a lot more power.

[sunofdarkchild]

Right right. I didn't mean to say that her sorcery powers weren't formidable or that her teleporting was stronger or anything like that. I just meant that I always like that she was a teleporter more. I thought it was cool that she was a sorceress too but I am a sucker for a hot blonde teleporter. Her sorcery powers definitely defined her character much much more though throughout her time as Magik. And given that they DID ruin her life (while in limbo AND after) that is why I wouldn't mind her being relieved of that burden post Infernus.

I thought you were talking about what was more important. Sorry.

They're not going to take away her sorcery, even though there's a good chance they'll take away the evil in her soul. She still has her soulsword, she'll probably still rule Limbo, she's a definite but unlikely candidate to succeed Doctor Strange, and she's not about to change her codename: Magik.

[yanapryde]

I'm looking now at the X-Infernus 3 preview. Did Illyana get weaker when she got part of her soul back? She went down way too easily, and the same way she beat Pixie (grrr...). I was expecting her to have Witchfire at her mercy but be distracted by the arrival of the X-Men. Cast some spells, girl! I guess having the beatrix medallion gives Witchfire a lot more power.

That was my assumption as well.
Also, given that Illyana's body has been more or less restored once she retained her soulsword, I think that a decrease in physical strength may result as well? Since she was in a demon body previously when she fought Pixie and running on pure rage. She also may have been a bit thrown off by this appearance of Sym being gutted by a red head claiming to be the daughter of the guy who raped her soul. I dunno.

[darknessatnoon]

Why does Illyana get her own appreciation thread when she is the least important New Mutant?

[sunofdarkchild]

That was my assumption as well.
Also, given that Illyana's body has been more or less restored once she retained her soulsword, I think that a decrease in physical strength may result as well? Since she was in a demon body previously when she fought Pixie and running on pure rage. She also may have been a bit thrown off by this appearance of Sym being gutted by a red head claiming to be the daughter of the guy who raped her soul. I dunno.

Fear of Belasco definately sounds good.

[Kid Icarus]

Why does Illyana get her own appreciation thread when she is the least important New Mutant?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/229/84281-94787-bird-brain_large.gif

[yanapryde]

Gross Kid Icarus.
I'm ashamed of you.:mad:

[Kid Icarus]

Gross Kid Icarus.
I'm ashamed of you.:mad:

for saying that Birdbrain is the worst New Mutants character of all time....?



...cool

[sunofdarkchild]

Why does Illyana get her own appreciation thread when she is the least important New Mutant?

Least important!!! What world are you living in? She was the main character from issue 14 until after Inferno. Magneto and the White Queen said that she was the most powerful New Mutant.

And Claremont had much bigger plans for her than were ever realized.

If you don't like the thread, Then don't post on it!!!!!!!

[darknessatnoon]

Least important!!![/I[B] What world are you living in? She was the main character from issue 14 until after Inferno. Magneto and the White Queen said that she was the most powerful New Mutant.

And Claremont had much bigger plans for her than were ever realized.

If you don't like the thread, Then don't post on it!!!!!!!

Don't even invoke CC. This girl was basically just Kitty Pryde's roommate.

[NielsVanEekelen]

One of the things that irked me in the New Mutants series was how Illyana's personality changed from issue to issue. In # 14 she felt completely out of place, didn't know how to ask if she could play in the snow with the New Mutants, and envied how "they laugh so easily, while I've forgotten how to cry." This interpretation of Illyana was always my favourite, and it was kept up through the demon bear saga.

Then in # 21 Illyana is leading a slumber party, gossiping with strangers, and giving Rahne the makeover of a lifetime. What a flip-flop. And it always struck me as false that a girl who grew up in Limbo and endured all that happened in the Magik limited series would be like that. I wonder if that was all an act by Illyana to seem normal, but that seems just as unlikely as her becoming a paty-girl after escaping Limbo.

True, part of that does seem like inconsistant characterisation, but you can justify it some, too.

Once A) Illyana got more accepted and got used to hanging out with kids her age and B) her big secret of being a sorceress came out, she started opening up a lot more.

In Limbo she had no freedom--with everything she did she had to fear punishment or for her soul. So once she started feeling more comfortable back on Earth, she had your basic rebellion against a strict upbringing and her wild side started to come out, the side that made rash decisions and was always itching to break the rules to see what she could get away with. Demonic influence or traumatized teenage girl trying to assert her own free will? Bit of both, I'd say.


And whenever she was a "mall-girl" her personality was the same as Kitty Pryde's.

But Kitty was totally her idol! You can use this as an argument for her faking normality by copying what she'd seen and liked.

[sunofdarkchild]

Don't even invoke CC. This girl was basically just Kitty Pryde's roommate.

And one of the lords of Hell, giving her the same status as Mephisto, Surtur, Hela, Satanish, and Dormammu.

But that's as unimportant as you can get.

During the original New Mutants series Cypher, Magma, Karma (it hurts to write this about her), and all of the newcomers after Inferno vie for the position of least important New Mutant. By any standard Illyana wasn't even in the bottom ten.

[NielsVanEekelen]

And Claremont had much bigger plans for her than were ever realized.

One of my biggest regrets in X-history is that Claremont didn't return to New Mutants after a short break, as was planned at the time...


Also, someone on this thread is just trying to get a rise out of Illyana-fans. Guess who and then ignore the appropriate posts.

[Kid Icarus]

And one of the lords of Hell, giving her the same status as Meshisto, Surtur, Hela, Satanish, and Dormammu.

But that's as unimportant as you can get.

During the original New Mutants series Cypher, Magma, Karma (it hurts to write this about her), and all of the newcomers after Inferno vie for the position of least important New Mutant. By any standard Illyana wasn't even in the bottom ten.

weren't there 12 members max while she was on the team ?

[MuhollandDriver]

She wasn't the "lead" character...she played the anti-hero role....like Wolverine.

She was the most popular character....i don't just say that as a fan.

She isn't losing limo, her magiks, or her sword.

They are ingredients that make her interesting.

If Wolverine lost his claws permanently, i doubt his popularity would be the same.

Those parts are integral to Illyana.....sorry for all You who just want her as a little teleporting snowflake....isn't gonna happen.

[darknessatnoon]

Alison Crestmere was more important.

Illyana just encouraged impressionable children to worship Satan.

[sunofdarkchild]

weren't there 12 members max while she was on the team ?

The arguement was "least important New Mutant," which implies throughout the 100 issue run. But you're right. Anyone making that kind of an arguement is either an ignoramus or is trying to get people angry. He/she is best ignored.

And I don't see anything wrong with the Bird-Brain picture; it was drawn for actuall New Mutants issues in the 80's after all.

[Kid Icarus]

Illyana just encouraged impressionable children to worship Satan.

I know it worked on me

[MuhollandDriver]

Alison Crestmere was more important.

Illyana just encouraged impressionable children to worship Satan.

*laughs*

Yeah....Alison was especially wholesome in X-Men:Legends.

Marie Osmond got nuttin on her.

[sunofdarkchild]

Illyana just encouraged impressionable children to worship Satan.

I always thought she represented the internal fight that everyone must wage against the evil in their own souls, just magnified to an unimaginable degree. Have I been worshipping Satan?

[darknessatnoon]

I always thought she represented the internal fight that everyone must wage against the evil in their own souls, just magnified to an unimaginable degree. Have I been worshipping Satan?

Possibly. Have you let any old witch women bathe you recently?

[sunofdarkchild]

Possibly. Have you let any old witch women bathe you recently?

Ewww. How gross can you get?

[darknessatnoon]

Ewww. How gross can you get?

Little Illyana allowed Old Witch Storm to sponge-bathe her in the Magik/Storm limited series. It seems to me that you're not much of a Magik fan if you do not know this.

[sunofdarkchild]

Little Illyana allowed Old Witch Storm to sponge-bathe her in the Magik/Storm limited series. It seems to me that you're not much of a Magik fan if you do not know this.

'Nearly dies of laughter at stupidity.'

How many spongebaths a week do you take? Does Old Witch Storm give them to you or did she teach you how to do it yourself?

[MuhollandDriver]

Little Illyana allowed Old Witch Storm to sponge-bathe her in the Magik/Storm limited series. It seems to me that you're not much of a Magik fan if you do not know this.

i remember.

Claremont wrote great women.....but he still couldn't resist making his Claremazons a bit fetishy. Illyana, being one of his prime Claremazons, was no exception.

[sunofdarkchild]

i remember.

Claremont wrote great women.....but he still couldn't resist making his Claremazons a bit fetishy. Illyana, being one of his prime Claremazons, was no exception.

What, there was a fifth issue of the Magik mini series? Storm went for a swim by herself; that's the closest she came to giving a spongebath to anyone.

Although by New Mutants issue 21 Illyana did become somewhat fetishy.

[SayOcean]

if magik lost her magic powers/never been kidnapped would she had been a mutant at all....i mean how could she teleport???

[sunofdarkchild]

if magik lost her magic powers/never been kidnapped would she had been a mutant at all....i mean how could she teleport???

She would still be a mutant and be able to teleport, like the House of M version.

[darknessatnoon]

What, there was a fifth issue of the Magik mini series? Storm went for a swim by herself; that's the closest she came to giving a spongebath to anyone.

Although by New Mutants issue 21 Illyana did become somewhat fetishy.

The sponge bath was in issue 1, when Illyana was a little girl.

[darkclaw]

Why does Illyana get her own appreciation thread when she is the least important New Mutant?

Least imporatant! Are you NUTS? Some of the best books in the series starred her, partcularly if one was looking for a lot of depth and complexity early! (The others have it now, but not so much at the start!) She was also clearly one of their most powerful members (alongside Warlock).


For least important mutants, may I direct you to Bird Boy, Leech and Artie?

[darknessatnoon]

Least imporatant! Are you NUTS? Some of the best books in the series starred her, partcularly if one was looking for a lot of depth and complexity early! (The others have it now, but not so much at the start!) She was also clearly one of their most powerful members (alongside Warlock).


For least important mutants, may I direct you to Bird Boy, Leech and Artie?

I can't talk to you fanatics.

[darkclaw]

Possibly. Have you let any old witch women bathe you recently?

If I had a choice between Ororo or Belasco as my caretaker, I agree with Illyana, I'd go with Ororo, too!:tongue:

[darkclaw]

I can't talk to you fanatics.

Talk, yes. Convert? No thank you. We are happy here, have our opinions and our vote for favorite mutant...and she is a blonde haired Russian lady.

[MartinRedmond]

Are you NUTS? ...................

Ahaha

[yanapryde]

I can't talk to you fanatics.

If only that were true.

[Imraith Nimphais]

If only that were true.

*Zing!*...LOLOLOLOL...:biggrin:

[darkclaw]

*Zing!*...LOLOLOLOL...:biggrin:

"The kick is up.....it's got the distance.....and it's.....GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!":tongue: :redface: :biggrin:

[SayOcean]

She would still be a mutant and be able to teleport, like the House of M version.really??? i just figured that her mutant powers allowed her to be more sensitive to magic than she normally would....thats one thing i didnt get about the HOM Magik....and the exiles one........uhhhh did the HOM Magik have a soulsword

[NielsVanEekelen]

Magik fans assemble! Or better catchphrase!

Hasbro is having a fan vote to determine what characters get Marvel Universe action figures in 2010, and Magik is among the options!

The top five get their own figures--vote here, no registration necessary:
http://www.hasbro.com/marvel/default.cfm?page=Entertainment/Forum
:biggrin:

[yanapryde]

Magik fans assemble! Or better catchphrase!

Hasbro is having a fan vote to determine what characters get Marvel Universe action figures in 2010, and Magik is among the options!

The top five get their own figures--vote here, no registration necessary:
http://www.hasbro.com/marvel/default.cfm?page=Entertainment/Forum
:biggrin:

AHHHHHH! YES! EVERYONE VOTE! PLEASE GOD! THIS IS ILLYANA'S YEAR!!!
She needs a decent action figure or statue or SOMETHING!

[yanapryde]

really??? i just figured that her mutant powers allowed her to be more sensitive to magic than she normally would....thats one thing i didnt get about the HOM Magik....and the exiles one........uhhhh did the HOM Magik have a soulsword

my understanding of Magik's powers is this...(although I could be wrong because its kind of a mystery) ... Belasco was drawn to Illyana, in part, due to her natural affinity to the stepping discs that reside in Limbo. That is part of why he chose her.
Like Nightcrawler, Illyana's teleportation talent is tide to an alternate dimension. Nightcrawler passes through a separate dimension when he teleports (for a brief moment) and Illyana, through Limbo, although she is able to remain in her dimensional midpoint.
I believe that if she had NOT been abducted at such an early age, her teleportation powers would act the same way that Nightcrawler's do. She would have hit puberty like all the rest of the New Mutants and found that she could summon these stepping discs, unaware of their origin, and use them to travel through space (but not time) I belive that her ability to travel through time is more largely tied to the amount of time she spends in Limbo between jumps.
Again, this is all theoretical.
What do you guys think?:smile:

[jarrod]

my understanding of Magik's powers is this...(although I could be wrong because its kind of a mystery) ... Belasco was drawn to Illyana, in part, due to her natural affinity to the stepping discs that reside in Limbo. That is part of why he chose her.
Like Nightcrawler, Illyana's teleportation talent is tide to an alternate dimension. Nightcrawler passes through a separate dimension when he teleports (for a brief moment) and Illyana, through Limbo, although she is able to remain in her dimensional midpoint.
I believe that if she had NOT been abducted at such an early age, her teleportation powers would act the same way that Nightcrawler's do. She would have hit puberty like all the rest of the New Mutants and found that she could summon these stepping discs, unaware of their origin, and use them to travel through space (but not time) I belive that her ability to travel through time is more largely tied to the amount of time she spends in Limbo between jumps.
Again, this is all theoretical.
What do you guys think?:smile:
I think this is pretty much what they're doing in the comics. HOM Illyana ported directly, and so did young Illyana in Wolverine: First Class.

I think Belasco's what tied her abilities to the Limbo stopover directly.

[yanapryde]

Magik fans assemble! Or better catchphrase!

Hasbro is having a fan vote to determine what characters get Marvel Universe action figures in 2010, and Magik is among the options!

The top five get their own figures--vote here, no registration necessary:
http://www.hasbro.com/marvel/default.cfm?page=Entertainment/Forum
:biggrin:

I've voted 4 times so far from 4 separate computers! GO MAGIK!!

[MartinRedmond]

It's a good explanation I guess. I like the timing randomiser in her teleport. :x

I voted Dazzler, those figure's articulations are pretty freaky, I don't want Yana to have ugly deformed legs.

[yanapryde]

It's a good explanation I guess. I like the timing randomiser in her teleport. :x

I voted Dazzler, those figure's articulations are pretty freaky, I don't want Yana to have ugly deformed legs.

do we know if these would be the 'marvel legends' figures ?? Because I always thought they looked good.

[NielsVanEekelen]

my understanding of Magik's powers is this...(although I could be wrong because its kind of a mystery) ... Belasco was drawn to Illyana, in part, due to her natural affinity to the stepping discs that reside in Limbo. That is part of why he chose her.
Like Nightcrawler, Illyana's teleportation talent is tide to an alternate dimension. Nightcrawler passes through a separate dimension when he teleports (for a brief moment) and Illyana, through Limbo, although she is able to remain in her dimensional midpoint.
I believe that if she had NOT been abducted at such an early age, her teleportation powers would act the same way that Nightcrawler's do. She would have hit puberty like all the rest of the New Mutants and found that she could summon these stepping discs, unaware of their origin, and use them to travel through space (but not time) I belive that her ability to travel through time is more largely tied to the amount of time she spends in Limbo between jumps.
Again, this is all theoretical.
What do you guys think?:smile:

Very nice theory. I've mostly just ignored the seeming inconsistencies in HoM Magik's abilities, but this makes good sense of them. You should demand a No-Prize!

do we know if these would be the 'marvel legends' figures ?? Because I always thought they looked good.

The votey page calls them "Marvel Universe" figures, which I believe are a separate line, but the only Marvel figures I buy are the British die-cast ones, so I'm not sure. Well, if the Magik figure gets made, I'll obviously make an exception.:rolleyes:

[MartinRedmond]

The votey page calls them "Marvel Universe" figures, which I believe are a separate line, but the only Marvel figures I buy are the British die-cast ones, so I'm not sure. Well, if the Magik figure gets made, I'll obviously make an exception.:rolleyes:

My favorites were the ToyBiz rotoscopic 12 inch figures, I got all the Fantastic Four and Spider-Man set, Daredevil too. :C

[yanapryde]

Very nice theory. I've mostly just ignored the seeming inconsistencies in HoM Magik's abilities, but this makes good sense of them. You should demand a No-Prize!



The votey page calls them "Marvel Universe" figures, which I believe are a separate line, but the only Marvel figures I buy are the British die-cast ones, so I'm not sure. Well, if the Magik figure gets made, I'll obviously make an exception.:rolleyes:

Magik's inclusion in various storylines throughout various realities, such as Exiles and HoM, have been rather inconsistent. So THANKS! I like my theory as well!
And I will definitely be getting a Magik figure, if they're made, or 3!

[NielsVanEekelen]

or 3!

Mmmmm, variants... {/homer}

[yanapryde]

Mmmmm, variants... {/homer}

Has anyone voted for Magik? I did, as many times (that would allow) and on as many computers as I could locate. But the poll being taken in the Marvel Universe forum seems to runeth over for OTHER character votes. Booo!

More Votes for Magik please-o-please!
I've even sent out private messages to people.
And I sent the link to friends but it seems the link doesn't via standard emails.
CURSES!

[SayOcean]

i voted twice already, and will do so every time im around a new comp....i like your theory yana, but did the stepping discs already exist in limbo and yana could just tap into that, and if so does this meant her sorcery was something she was born with

[Askani's Flame]

I don't know if her sorcery was something she was born into, but she's the 2nd of 3 Rasputins that have powers dealing with portal creation (Mikhail being the other).

[yanapryde]

i voted twice already, and will do so every time im around a new comp....i like your theory yana, but did the stepping discs already exist in limbo and yana could just tap into that, and if so does this meant her sorcery was something she was born with

The stepping discs already existed. Yes.

As for her a natural affinity for sorcery, I would argue yes. Given her inevitable mutant talent to summon the stepping discs, this made her a prime target for Belasco as his apprentice.

[yanapryde]

I don't know if her sorcery was something she was born into, but she's the 2nd of 3 Rasputins that have powers dealing with portal creation (Mikhail being the other).

It is interesting though, the connections between all 3 Rasputin's powers.
In Colossus: Bloodlines (a mini) it was established that their family descended from Grigori Rasputin. Rasputin is established as having been a powerful mutant, whose power and life essence had been passed down to his descendants.

allegedly.

But yes.
Both Mikhail and Illyana are capable teleporters.
Both Piotr and Illyana are able to create armor on their bodies.
So Illyana has the best of both brothers. ha ha

[Darkchylde]

i voted twice already, and will do so every time im around a new comp....i like your theory yana, but did the stepping discs already exist in limbo and yana could just tap into that, and if so does this meant her sorcery was something she was born with


The stepping discs are ingenous to Limbo; they've been there since, well, the very beginning, I suppose. Illyana seems to have had a natural affinity for the stepping discs, which is probably why Belasco abducted her to begin with - her natural manipulation of space/time made her an ideal choice to liberate both Belasco and the Elder Gods from imprisonment.

I never read Colossus' mini series, but based on others' reviews of it, I would say that it only reinfores the notion that Illyana was born with an aptitude for wielding magicks. Had Belasco never trained her, Illyana might never have tapped into her mystical heritage, instead becoming a mutant teleporter.

[Darkchylde]

i voted twice already, and will do so every time im around a new comp....i like your theory yana, but did the stepping discs already exist in limbo and yana could just tap into that, and if so does this meant her sorcery was something she was born with


The stepping discs are ingenous to Limbo; they've been there since, well, the very beginning, I suppose. Illyana seems to have had a natural affinity for the stepping discs, which is probably why Belasco abducted her to begin with - her natural manipulation of space/time made her an ideal choice to liberate both Belasco and the Elder Gods from imprisonment.

I never read Colossus' mini series, but based on others' reviews of it, I would say that it only reinfores the notion that Illyana was born with an aptitude for wielding magicks. Had Belasco never trained her, Illyana might never have tapped into her mystical heritage, instead becoming a mutant teleporter.

[yanapryde]

The stepping discs are ingenous to Limbo; they've been there since, well, the very beginning, I suppose. Illyana seems to have had a natural affinity for the stepping discs, which is probably why Belasco abducted her to begin with - her natural manipulation of space/time made her an ideal choice to liberate both Belasco and the Elder Gods from imprisonment.

I never read Colossus' mini series, but based on others' reviews of it, I would say that it only reinfores the notion that Illyana was born with an aptitude for wielding magicks. Had Belasco never trained her, Illyana might never have tapped into her mystical heritage, instead becoming a mutant teleporter.

Yes.
My thoughts exactly.
I imagine that her powers would act and appear like Blink's portals (in AoA) to most. They'd be considered transports by those around her, rather than doorways to another dimension.

[sunofdarkchild]

Magik's inclusion in various storylines throughout various realities, such as Exiles and HoM, have been rather inconsistent. So THANKS! I like my theory as well!
And I will definitely be getting a Magik figure, if they're made, or 3!

The Exiles soulswords, oy what an inconsistency.

[sunofdarkchild]

I'm actually kind of disapointed in X-Infrnus 3, at least compared to 2. Why is Witchfire so bad arse compared to everyone else?

Spoiler:

Pixie's turned evil. We're all doomed.

Loved what Colossus did to Rockslide though.

[SayOcean]

damn it.... i was doing good avoiding the spoilers....until now....i guess im gonna have to read that thread now.....oh the joy

EDIT: by the by im digging everyone's magik related handles.....takes me back to Indiemagik....but sadly that name is no longer welcomed

[sunofdarkchild]

On the subject of Illyana's mutant power, according to Wolverine First Class issue 6 she created portals by accident before ever going to Limbo, without any stopover in said dimension. Maybe she 'popped' in and out of Limbo each time like Nightcrawler and maybe those brief dtopovers were what turned Belasco's intentions towards her. I know I'd be interested in the abilities of a six year old who pops in and out of the dimension I'm trapped in with ease.

[darkclaw]

Has anyone voted for Magik? I did, as many times (that would allow) and on as many computers as I could locate. But the poll being taken in the Marvel Universe forum seems to runeth over for OTHER character votes. Booo!

More Votes for Magik please-o-please!
I've even sent out private messages to people.
And I sent the link to friends but it seems the link doesn't via standard emails.
CURSES!

Illyana is WAY more deserving than most of those....I mean, seriously, "Paper Bag Spider-Man"? Now, that's just pandering to the crowd whose exposure to Superheroes doesn't extend byond Toby Maguire!:frown: Aren't we talking "the bombastic bag-man" that even Spidey considered ridiculous?

[Darkchylde]

The Exiles soulswords, oy what an inconsistency.

You mean the "Soul Sword of Bata's Circle"? (And I intentionally separated 'Soulsword' into two words since that's how it was spelled in Exiles, and even issues of Excalibur during Warren Ellis' run. Of course, we all know that's the incorrect spelling of 'Soulsword', but that's a topic for another time.)

Yeah, talk about major inconsitency gaffe. I'm actually glad subsequent writers of Uncanny X-Men never followed up on Chuck Austen's plot of Warren obtaining Exiles Illyana's Soul Sword. Then again, I'm equally grateful that no one has touched on Scott Lobdell's ridiculous 'prometheum-as-the-source-of-Illyana's-eldritch-armor' story from Excalibur - except for Warren Ellis, who renamed it 'soulsteel' (and thankfully, that also hasn't been mentioned since).

[Darkchylde]

Double post. Move on.

[sunofdarkchild]

You mean the "Soul Sword of Bata's Circle"? (And I intentionally separated 'Soulsword' into two words since that's how it was spelled in Exiles, and even issues of Excalibur during Warren Ellis' run. Of course, we all know that's the incorrect spelling of 'Soulsword', but that's a topic for another time.)

Yeah, talk about major inconsitency gaffe. I'm actually glad subsequent writers of Uncanny X-Men never followed up on Chuck Austen's plot of Warren obtaining Exiles Illyana's Soul Sword. Then again, I'm equally grateful that no one has touched on Scott Lobdell's ridiculous 'prometheum-as-the-source-of-Illyana's-eldritch-armor' story from Excalibur - except for Warren Ellis, who renamed it 'soulsteel' (and thankfully, that also hasn't been mentioned since).

And the whole Excaliber thing about the soulsword not being forged by Illyana. I'm glad that the writers are ignoring that, although the way the soul dagger was forged is very inconsistent with how the original was forged in Magik issue 4.

[Darkchylde]

And the whole Excaliber thing about the soulsword not being forged by Illyana. I'm glad that the writers are ignoring that, although the way the soul dagger was forged is very inconsistent with how the original was forged in Magik issue 4.


Are you referring to Belasco's claim in Excalibur that he was somehow the original owner of the Soulsword? Blah! In my own mind, I'd always imagined he meant that he was the original owner of the sword because he was once Illyana's master; therefore, everything she owned belonged to him.

In my mind, anyway. But let's not mention this again or the writers may get some crazy ideas in their heads...

And yeah, I gotta agree with you about the construction of the soul dagger being inconsistent with the Soulsword's creation in Storm and Illyana: Magik # 4. On the one hand, the idea in and of itself makes sense - Illyana created the Soulsword out of vengeance, and did the same with the soul dagger (which was meant to be a replacement Soulsword). But where it gets confusing for me is the creation of the dagger, since Illyana willingly created the Soulsword of her own magicks but used the bloodstone medallion - which she didn't need to create the Soulsword - to create Pixie's dagger.

My head hurts already, and I haven't even fully fleshed out my ideas. But I also concur with the poster Twisted Bliss, who said that Illyana and Pixie are now somehow bound together mystically/spiritually. Maybe Illyana's conjuring of the bloodstone from Pixie's soul bonded them on some level, just as Illyana and Belasco were almost assuredly bound together after he conjured the bloodstones from Illyana. (Remember when he and Illyana fought at the end of Magik's limited series? Belasco began to lose his demonic appearance while Illyana's became more prominent.) Consequently, when Nightcrawler stabbed Illyana, Pixie felt the pain of it, causing her to scream in agony.

At least, that's my rationale. Since issue 4 hasn't come out (and it needs to, NOW!), this is purely conjecture. I'm still curious as to what Illyana intended when she had Kurt stab her with Pixie's dagger. And didn't she DIE when Witchfire stabbed her earlier? She sure looked dead to me...

Where was I? Oh yeah, Kurt stabbing Illyana. What's up with that? Will that have the effect of summoning a bloodstone from Illyana, thereby interrupting Witchfire's extraction from Pixie and giving Illyana enough mystical power (as the Darkchilde) to whoop Witchfire's a** (and also completing the bloodstone medallion, which means Illyana could summon the power of the Elder Gods)?

For now, that's my theory, until the next issue comes out. Here's hoping Pixie's soul is restored, the soul dagger goes bye-bye, Witchfire is trounced nice and proper, and Illyana retains both her magickal ability (if the cover to New Avengers # 51 is any indication) and even her darksoul self. Zeb Wells, writer of The New Mutants, did say that Illyana would be the loose cannon of the group. I'd like to see where he takes her following the events of this series.

[MartinRedmond]

If anyone's a true continuity freak, I think that Belasco was a Ka-Zar villain prior Chris using him. Brent Anderson was drawing Ka-Zar before he did the X-Men and the Illyana story. I may be wrong. :X

[NielsVanEekelen]

Are you referring to Belasco's claim in Excalibur that he was somehow the original owner of the Soulsword? Blah! In my own mind, I'd always imagined he meant that he was the original owner of the sword because he was once Illyana's master; therefore, everything she owned belonged to him.

That's how I read it. Belasco is almost as possessive of Illyana as we fans. :wink:


If anyone's a true continuity freak, I think that Belasco was a Ka-Zar villain prior Chris using him. Brent Anderson was drawing Ka-Zar before he did the X-Men and the Illyana story. I may be wrong. :X

Correct. And then he returned in Ka-Zar a bit later (where he references Illyana!) in an issue drawn by Ron Frenz, who drew part of the Magik miniseries. :cool:

(Ka-Zar the Savage #10-12 and #28-29)

[yanapryde]

That's how I read it. Belasco is almost as possessive of Illyana as we fans. :wink:




Correct. And then he returned in Ka-Zar a bit later (where he references Illyana!) in an issue drawn by Ron Frenz, who drew part of the Magik miniseries. :cool:

(Ka-Zar the Savage #10-12 and #28-29)

Well according to the Cuckoos when they entered Belasco's mind in Quest for Magik, it was revealed that Belasco had an infatuation with Illyana beyond simple corruption or desire for power through her. It was more of a creepy child molester love:eek: gross. That just adds to the evil-ness.

[sunofdarkchild]

My theory for what's going on in X-Infernus is that Witchfire is being possessed by the spirit of her father. That's why she wants to release the Elder Gods, kept Illyana allive(as Yanapryde said, he apparently had a thing for his Darkchylde), and mostly how she got so darn powerful.

And in Excaliber it was at least implied that many had wielded the soulsword before Illyana; that's what I was referring to.

I've always thought of the soulsword as Illyana's greatest failure. She was too corrupted and too filled with vengence to cast the true spell, so all she could do was create a mockery of the life the old Storm created, the soulsword.

[yanapryde]

After further observation and careful scrutiny (and believe ME, I've spent a LOT of time looking at this image) I really believe that (in the promotional image of Illyana, post falling out that stepping disc, punctured w/ arrows etc) she is ...or rather....WAS... adorned in her eldritch armor. And it IS shattered/falling off.

There are FAR too many 'pieces' resting on her body in various areas.
Too many of these fragments of metal are wraped about her.
So unless whomever she was evading when she teleported to that location had somehow bound her in pieces of metal or something....then I firmly believe it is her armor (and it appears to have covered most of her body by the look of it)

I'm working on an illustration tonight when I get off work of what I believe her costume will look like for the New Mutants book based on the FEW images (all 2 of them) we've seen.
I think I'll include Karma in the illustration as well. A little wink to one of my CBR buddies.:wink: I hope to get a scan made tonight and hopefully I can post it tomorrow morning. Stay tuned... :redface:

[jarrod]

So Belasco's the closest thing Illyana's ever had to a boyfriend?

Mmmm-hmmmm. :wink:

[SayOcean]

So Belasco's the closest thing Illyana's ever had to a boyfriend?

Mmmm-hmmmm. :wink:illyana's too cool for just any old boyfriend...they're beneath her....

but she did keep Sym on a leash

[yanapryde]

illyana's too cool for just any old boyfriend...they're beneath her....

but she did keep Sym on a leash

quoted and purple-ized for truth.:biggrin:

[sunofdarkchild]

After further observation and careful scrutiny (and believe ME, I've spent a LOT of time looking at this image) I really believe that (in the promotional image of Illyana, post falling out that stepping disc, punctured w/ arrows etc) she is ...or rather....WAS... adorned in her eldritch armor. And it IS shattered/falling off.

There are FAR too many 'pieces' resting on her body in various areas.
Too many of these fragments of metal are wraped about her.
So unless whomever she was evading when she teleported to that location had somehow bound her in pieces of metal or something....then I firmly believe it is her armor (and it appears to have covered most of her body by the look of it)

I'm working on an illustration tonight when I get off work of what I believe her costume will look like for the New Mutants book based on the FEW images (all 2 of them) we've seen.
I think I'll include Karma in the illustration as well. A little wink to one of my CBR buddies.:wink: I hope to get a scan made tonight and hopefully I can post it tomorrow morning. Stay tuned... :redface:

You convinced me to take another look at the picture. I didn't notice the metal around her waist until now, so I am now also of the opinion that it is her armor on the ground.

But what could do that to her armor? I'd say she was teleporting back after the resolution of X-Infernus but she's wearing an X-uniform, so that can't be. Her armor has usually seemed impervious even to her soulsword, so whatever did that had to have some serious magical power. I'm leaning toward Selene again, assuming she survives X-Force.

[yanapryde]

You convinced me to take another look at the picture. I didn't notice the metal around her waist until now, so I am now also of the opinion that it is her armor on the ground.

But what could do that to her armor? I'd say she was teleporting back after the resolution of X-Infernus but she's wearing an X-uniform, so that can't be. Her armor has usually seemed impervious even to her soulsword, so whatever did that had to have some serious magical power. I'm leaning toward Selene again, assuming she survives X-Force.

I'm not positive about what could have caused it.
Although, I have one gripe. The X-insignia is on her left side on her chest. And the 'breast plate' from her armor is on the right side. Which is backwards. If she's going to be sporting her traditional 'half-armored' look, then her left arm should be armored rather than her right. But then again, like I said, it looks as though her entire body was armored. Meh. My gripe is super minor.:frown:

[NielsVanEekelen]

illyana's too cool for just any old boyfriend...they're beneath her....

They're beneath her... plus she was far more interested in Kitty Pryde than in any boy. :wink:


Yanapryde--cool, look forward to that drawing.

[sunofdarkchild]

They're beneath her... plus she was far more interested in Kitty Pryde than in any boy. :wink:


Yanapryde--cool, look forward to that drawing.

There was some definite sexual tension between Illyana and Roberto, though that never was developed at all. Illyana was always meant to be alone.

[yanapryde]

Here is a mock-up of what I believe her uniform will look like, based on that ONE page we've seen so far, where she's all tattered and beaten.
Not my best work, but its just to show the potential costume design.

[darkclaw]

This is about as close as any I've found to an "official" Biography on Illyana. It does not include X-Infernus, but it might be good for those who come onto the site as recent Illyana fans or who do not understand the history of her. I know this will get posts with disagreements in various areas (it almost always happens), but this seems the clearest bio, so here you go.

Name: Illyana Nikolivena Rasputina
Codename: Magik
Characteristics:
Gender: Female
Height:5'5"
Weight:120 lbs. (55 Kg.)
Hair:Blonde
Eyes:Blue
Unusual Features:
When in Darkchylde persona Illyana manifests horns, hooves and a tail. When in use of her SoulSword, an eldritch armor covers portions, if not all, of her body.
Status:

Known Relatives:
Grigory Efimovich Rasputin (great-grandfather, deceased), Elena Rasputin (great-grandmother, deceased), Ivan Rasputin (great-uncle, deceased), Grigory Rasputin (grandfather, deceased), Vladamir Rasputin (uncle, deceased), Nikolai Rasputin (father, deceased), Alexandra Rasputin (mother, deceased), Mikhail Nikolievitch Rasputin (brother), Piotr Nikolievitch Rasputin (Colossus, brother), Peter (nephew), Larisa Mishchenko (cousin, deceased), Konstantin (cousin, deceased), Klara (cousin, deceased), Dimitry (cousin, deceased)
Citizenship:
Citizen of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republic. Lived in U.S. with a student Visa. Minor with no criminal record.
Place of Birth:
Ust-Ordynski Collective Farm in Lake Baikal, Siberia, Russian SFSR, Soviet Union.
Marital Status:
Single
Occupation:
Sorceress Supreme & Ruler of Limbo,
Adventurer, (Formerly: student.)
Education:
Xavier Institute & Massachusetts Academy; high school level classes.


Origin
Illyana Nikolieva Rasputin, the indomitable mutant known as Magik, was both a superhumanly powerful mutant with the mutant power of teleportation and an unbelievably powerful sorceress at the same time with a potential that has yet to be reached. In her short life she has seen and been through and experienced many things. From being kidnapped at a very young age by the evil Belasco to live in a "Hell" dimension named Limbo for 7 years and exploited for her gifts, corrupted and tainting her soul to become evil, to her death from the Legacy Virus and an eventual resurrection.

Illyana
Prior to M-Day mutant births were a very common occurrence. In fact, there were so many that mutants were at one time nearly outnumbering that of base-line humans. So many were there, that some communities would consist entirely of mutants such as: the Morlocks or Mutant Town. To simply be a mutant didn't quite make you as different as it once would have. What made someone different, was the type of mutant that they were. Specifically, their power level that would show their potential or ability as a mutant. The Rasputin children, Mikhail, Piotr and Illyana, were all mutants
. Each of them would have gifts that would/could affect many, even on global level. Their futures would see them all go very different ways; their genetics ensured whichever way they chose to go, H-U-G-E things could be expected. These three mutant siblings would be no exception. From Mikhail's ability to manipulate matter on the subatomic level and his dimensional teleporting powers to Illyana's immensely powerful magical might and teleporting powers and even Piotr, who seemingly appears much weaker in comparison, but is prophesied to be the sole individual responsible for the destruction of an entire planet, Breakworld, and all of its inhabitants. On the outward appearance it may seem that it must be purely coincidental that Illyana and her two older brothers, Mikhail Rasputin and Piotr Rasputin (Colossus), would all have massively powerful mutant powers and all be born to one family. But, not all is as it seems. These three siblings were born to a family that had been manipulated to ensure these outcomes. A bloodline refined to create power. Not only just Illyana, Mikhail and Piotr would have these substantial gifts, but all children born within the Rasputin bloodline would. Each would have the same genetics, share the same bloodline and lineage, each with the possibility to wield powerful mutant gifts. This was not a coincidence at all. This is all due to the manipulation, on a grand scale, by one of the foremost masters in genetics by the name of Nathaniel Essex better known as Mr. Sinister.

[MartinRedmond]

I'm no grammatical expert, but that's alot of "and" for an official entry.
http://mnorton.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/23120027.jpg

[darkclaw]

Sinister Beginning’s
More than 100 years ago, the patriarch of the Rasputin bloodline, the legendary Grigory Rasputin, would be the first to meet Sinister. The two would make unlikely allies. After their encounter, the Rasputin family would never be the same. When Grigory was younger, around the time of the emergence of his own mutant powers, Sinister would give him an offer he couldn’t refuse. Sinister or the "Pale Man" as Grigory referred to him as, would offer Grigory the chance to create a bloodline from his DNA that would lead a race of super humans. Grigory's importance to Sinister was quite simple. He was a mutant, and based on the time one of the few firsts. Not only was he a mutant, but a powerful one. Grigory was aware of his gifts or the "miraculous occurrences" that surrounded him. He enjoyed them and used them regularly. Though unrevealed, it’s assumed that Grigory may have had matter manipulating abilities. These powers seemed similar to that of his future descendant, Mikhail. Powerful or not, Sinister's offer appealed to him and he accepted promptly after. Sinister would go to work immediately.
He would seek out females similar to Grigory, mutants with special powers. Sinister would find around 15-20 women and impregnate them all by crossing their genes with that of Grigory's. Sinister would experiment on the unborn babies with many dying in the process. There was one woman though that was a prefect match for Grigory, a woman by the name of Elena. Once Sinister found that the two could produce the outcome that he wished for he would put introduce the two. Shortly after meeting, two would marry each other. Elena would be his soon-to-be wife and bearer of his future army of super powered children. This would collimate with Grigory taking part in a mystical ceremony, led by Sinister, transferring his essence into his pregnant wife’s womb. His last words were that he promised to return to the world when the world was ready for him. With Elena giving birth to her baby months later it would be the beginning of the powerful mutant bloodline that would lead to the eventual birth of one Illyana Nikolievna Rasputin the future mutant, teleporting Sorceress Supreme of Limbo, known as Magik.

Mikhail
Nikolai Rasputin and Alexandra Rasputin had three children, two boys, named Mikhail and Piotr Rasputin and, their youngest, a girl named Illyana. Mikhail was already an adult when Illyana was born. He wanted more than a farmer's life and decided to become a cosmonaut working for the Russian government. As a result Illyana would never have the opportunity to meet her eldest brother and unfortunately never would as reports would come indicating that Mikhail had died while in duty. The reality was that his mutant powers manifested and the government decided to use him as a guinea pig. They wanted to see if they could find a way to harness his gift. Basically they were exploiting him, with no intention of releasing him. Illyana's family grieved but she was relatively unaffected partially due to her age and she really didn't know him. Beyond that she had a fairly normal early childhood. She had a close knit family, more love then she could ever know and a bond between her brother and her that death couldn't break, literally. The Rasputin’s would thrive and continue to live their lives as best they could. They managed to achieve a little normalcy in their lives right when another mutant would make their self known.
Professor X & the X-Men
Mikhail wouldn't be the only of his sibling to have mutant powers. Piotr would also have his powers emerge. Though he would attempt to keep his mutant gifts hidden, he would be forced to reveal them in a much unexpected way. Illyana was playing near nearby an unmanned tractor came barreling in her direction. No one was near or had the ability to help her, save Piotr. Piotr reacts instinctively, running to her aid and activating his mutant powers. In a bright flash of light his entire body turned into that of a silver, shinny, armored giant. Standing in the way of the tractor, it would hit him and go no further as it would be destroyed upon impact. Like a night in shinning armor he was able to save his "Little Snowflake," as he referred to her. Relieved that he was able to protect his sister, he never noticed that a visitor had arrived and watched the entire event happen. A man that would change not only Piotr's life, but that of his little sister, Illyana's as well. This man was Professor Charles Xavier and he had arrived wanting to speak with Piotr. He wanted to recruit him as one of his new X-Men. After much conversation Piotr would accept and begrudgingly leave his family to start a new one in the United States. While apart of the team he took the codename Colossus and became one of the vaunted X-Men. As a member of the X-Men he would save the world many times over. But for Piotr it was a rough transition. He missed his family. Very homesick he tended to say alone and draw. While on missions though he was all business hiding his feelings. Hiding them as he might, nothing could prepare him for the following events.


The X-Men would do battle with many a foe, but one of the most odd was the eccentric, murderous Arcade. An assassin for hire and creator of Murderworld he was one of the best at what he did, but would bite off too much when Doctor Doom was involved. Arcade became involved in dealings that went bad with Dr. Doom. As a result he was held captive with no means of freedom. An associate of Arcade's,Miss Locke, would devise a plan that would have the X-Men do all the hard work and free Arcade for her. Of course they would never do this willingly, she would have to force them somehow. Miss Locke decided that she would blackmail them by kidnapping numerous members of each of the X-Men's family, this would include Piotr's little sister Illyana, and force them to assist. And they did. The X-Men sent in two units, sending the larger of their forces in to get Arcade and the few remaining to free their captive loved ones. The X-Men would find themselves to be successful and would return home. Colossus though would make a decision that would change his little sister life permanently. He decided that Illyana should stay with them and not return to Russia. He felt that it would be safer for her as he and the X-Men could protect her better, so that another incident like her being abducted could never happen again. Professor X agreed with the decision. He even telepathically taught all of his X-Men how to speak the Russian language so that Illyana would feel more comfortable in her new environment. He, too, wanted to test Illyana to see if she had the mutant gene, like her brothers feeling that there was a strong chance that she would be one. A discussion would follow but it would be decided to not test her. Feeling that she had many more years before her potential mutant powers if any at all, would emerge being that she was only 6 years old.
Illyana's stay would be granted by a special student visa. She would attend tutored classes by Professor X while at the x-mansion. While there she brought a happiness to Colossus, one that he hadn't felt in a long time. Since he left his home, long ago. Illyana would get close to all the X-Men, but especially Kitty Pryde. Kitty would read her bedtime stories and interact with her a lot. This would be the start of a bond that would only grow over time. In fact, Illyana would be close to all the X-Men.

[darkclaw]

Illyana in the clutches of Belasco
Illyana stayed with the X-Men all the time, save battles. This included when they were in need of a new temporary headquarters. Due to a recent battle it had sustained major damage and Xavier's Institute had been destroyed. The X-Men with no other choice would be forced to take up base elsewhere. This would find and inhabit an island that Magneto once used as a base. It was a strange alien city on an island in the Bermuda Triangle. Coming to this island would be the event that would lead to Illyana's destiny and future self.
Illyana was a child, only 7 years old, when the X-Men came to the island. Only on the island for a couple of days the X-Men had already settled themselves in. They were still very high stress though. Storm, the field leader, decided to release some stress she would have the X-Men participate in a training exercise, Illyana would play alone a short distance away as to not get hurt. At this same time, when no one was paying attention, the young Illyana began to walk away. As if she was guided, unable to control herself she would continue until she reached a temple. She continued to keep walking. All the while Kitty had noticed her missing and began to follow with the X-Men not too far behind. Illyana would reach her destination in the back of the dimly lit tunnel inside of the dilapidated Temple. She stood in the middle of a circular shape with glowing yellow and white lights and disappeared. The X-Men would follow and also get teleported to another dimension, one of the many splintered realms of Hell. This one was called Limbo.
Limbo
As soon as Illyana arrived she was whisked away to the side of Balesco. He tempted her with many wonderful things including a glorious future. All the while the X-Men made their way to Limbo as well. Through a string of events they were informed, by a second set of X-Men, that they had to leave in order for their Illyana to survive. That the second set of X-Men, those stuck in Limbo, attempting to rescue their Illyana and were successful but but were, themselves, stuck in Limbo. Immediately after the X-Men were spirited away back to Earth and left Illyana to fend for herself. Meanwhile back with Illyana, Belasco had brought her to an alter and began a spell to withdraw the first of 5 pieces of Illyana's soul. Effectively taking the first piece of her soul it was transformed into a "Bloodstone" and he placed it into what he called the Beatrice Amulet. The Amulet once opened had a 5-pointed star with open holes. The first Bloodstone filled the spot of one of those points. Belasco's intentions for Illyana was to slow, through time, take all 5 portions of her soul and turning them into bloodstone to complete the Beatrice Medallion. He needed time to further corrupt her soul, all the while step by step consecrating her to evil and making her the instrument of Balesco's masters the Elder Gods. He would also use her to free him from Limbo and allow him to roam Earth once again, where he would take over and rule supreme. He would leave immediately after the Bloodstone was removed and allowed time to take place.

[darkclaw]

Girl Interrupted
Still on the alter Illyana would be saved and taken with an elder Storm and her alternate X-Men's Kitty Pryde, now calling herself Cat. Both were very different, Cat actually had been transformed in to a cat/human hybrid by Balesco and as a result she hated magic. Ororo attempted to break free Illyana of the link she had with Balesco immediately after saving her. After a trip to the astral plane she finds that a part of Illyana was now and forever belonging to the side of evil, specifically to Balesco. When in Illyana's mind the "evil" part of Illyana would attack and try to kill the elderly Ororo, but Ororo luckily would survive. Once back Ororo would devise a plan to help the young Illyana. Wanting to equip Illyana for her future, the Ororo decided to teach Illyana all the white magic she knew by making Illyana her magical apprentice. The goal was to teach Illyana so that she would be enabled to keep her dark side at bay with white magic. All of her lessons would take place in Ororo's magic garden, from there they would proceed administer the classes on the astral plane. Storm was trained, learned and became quite adept at white magic, tapping into her ancestral magical lineage. Differing from her mainstream counterpart, winds no longer listened to the elderly Storm, she could not control the weather anymore instead she focused purely on magic. Storm felt it necessary to teach Illyana so that she was prepared for her next confrontation with Balesco. What Illyana didn't know, was the Balesco had once attempted to use both Storm and Cat to draw Bloodstone from but was unsuccessful. Storm knowing this would only further her want to protect the young child. Cat disagreed partially because she despised magic, but also because she felt that Storm would be doing Balesco’s dirty work for him. She felt that Storm was making a huge mistake. Regardless, Storm began teaching Illyana white magic. While there she taught Illyana about life, white magic and the creation of life itself. Their Illyana stayed for an entire year and learned everything that Storm could teach. Illyana learned fast but was quite angered by the fact that, try as she might, each and every spell she would cast would always be tainted by darkness. Where Ororo would magically have the ability to create life such as plants (or her entire garden), Illyana's attempts always seemingly failed. Though her spells were done properly and she had the magical aptitude to make them work they would always turn out in a negative way.
Once the year was complete, in the middle of the night Cat would wake Illyana up and convince her to come with her leaving Ororo's garden. Cat was attempting to return Illyana to her home. During that night Illyana and Cat would get into a heated argument and during this time, Illyana's mutant powers first manifested. She accidentally created a stepping disc and fell through it. When she arrived she was still in Limbo but here is when she first meets her future servant and enemy, S'ym. He taunts her and begins to attack her. She luckily is saved by Cat and together they escape from S'ym. While seeking a way to send Illyana home they came upon a desert and were informed that at the end of the desert would be the wall of Limbo. Where if Cat used her phasing powers she could take Illyana through and free her from Limbo. Their trek through the desert would take 2 long years. Through that time Cat would teach Illyana how to fight, use a sword and survival skills. At the end of the 2 years they would finally reach their destination only to find that they were misled by one of Balesco's illusions. Balesco would first transform Cat even further into a cat-like being and took the young Illyana with him as his pupil. It would be during this time that Balesco would create his second Bloodstone out of Illyana's soul, effectively tainting the essence of the child even further making her even more evil. Illyana followed Balesco to his palace, worried but accepting her situation. She fully understood that Cat would no longer be able to provide help to her. Balesco's spell halted Cat's ability to think for herself and she was now bound to Balesco doing his every bidding.
In the 3 years that followed, Balesco made Illyana his pupil, teaching her all that he knew. Illyana learned the darkest of dark magic and the blackest of black magic’s. She took to it quite quickly, and unlike the spells that Ororo taught her, Illyana could produce all the black spells with ease, without error. She realized that the reason why she was unable to produce spell that created life was because her soul was permanently tainted with darkness. She would never produce white magic spells without them going array. One day while Illyana was brainstorming a way to get out of Limbo, she inadvertently activated her latent mutant powers of teleportation. Now a few years old she had so much control learned from her magic teachings she was able to being practicing her mutants powers without being afraid of them. She began creating stepping discs and decided to walk through one to see where she would go. Her stepping disc took her to the future, unknown to her. Here she witnessed the arrival of her future teammates the New Mutants. Although at this point she had no clue who they were. Coincidently the New Mutants were, too, teleported to that very spot by a future Illyana. Seeing all she wanted to she, she created yet another stepping disc and teleported herself away. The disc this time sent her to the past. Here she witnessed a battle that took place many years ago in Limbo. The fight was between Balesco and a very young magician Storm. Illyana watched as Storm was able to successfully defeated Balesco. As Storm was to make her killing stroke, she was taken over by darkness. In attempting to kill Balesco, Storm tainted her own soul, changing her. Scarred by what she saw she opened yet another disc and teleported by to the current time. She arrives, she sees yet another battle. The opponents were the same, but now Storm was very aged. The elderly Storm had attacked Balesco's palace in an attempt to free Illyana. Illyana immediately ran to Storms aid but was cut off by the demonic Cat. They battled for a few short minutes but Illyana could tell that Cat was simply trying to hold Illyana back from helping Storm. Angered by this, Illyana lunges at Cat and snaps her neck, killing her immediately. When she finally gets to Storm she realizes that Storm too had fought against Cat and was dealt a mortal wound. The Elderly Storm was dying. Realizing it was all a trap, Illyana tries to take Storm when she finds out that Balesco planned to used Storm's soul and life essence to create a 3rd Bloodstone. Not wanting to help Balesco get any closer to his goal she mercy kills Storm, putting a halt to Balesco's plan. OR DID SHE? Balesco sees what Illyana has done and became enraged, but put plan b into play. Instead of using Storm for the 3rd Bloodstone, he would use Illyana to create it.

[yanapryde]

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[darkclaw]

She immediately teleports away using her mutant powers and reappears in Russia on the farm she grew up on directly in front of the house of her parents. Overcome with happiness when she realized that she could use her power to leave Limbo, she ran to her parent’s door and knocked. Her happiness would soon end when she sees her parents and tells them who she was. They, of course, did not recognize her and turned her away, under the assumption that their daughter was safe with their son Colossus in America and was a 6 year old little girl. Giving up she turned around and saw the corpses of the Limbo X-Men animated their to take her back to Limbo. When she gets back to Limbo, Balesco would quickly draw a 3rd Bloodstone from Illyana, even further tainting her should and making it more demonic, and would exile her to the garden that the elderly Ororo taught her her many years ago. He would bind her powers disabling her use of her magics and mutant powers. Timing could not have been worse it was the beginning of a harsh winter one that Illyana, likely, would not survive.
While in the garden Illyana used the skills taught to her by, the now deceased, Cat, managing to thrive in the unbearable cold. She also continued to practice the magic that the elderly Ororo taught her, attempting to find a way to free her self of the garden. Time and time again she was unable to produce magic that allowed creation, always coming out tainted as her soul was. She then had an epiphany, she was not able to produce magic like Ororo because they had differing motives. Ororo was attempting to help Illyana, Illyana's motive was quite simply, REVENGE. She reconfigured the spell and used a small portion of her untainted, pure soul and a bright light grew directly in front of her. When she reached in she pulled out her SoulSword. Shortly after she headed to Balesco and with the use of her newly created weapon she battled and defeated Balesco. Just prior to her killing stroke she stopped not wanting to become anymore dark, any more like Balesco. She then exiled him from Limbo. Due to this defeat, Illyana was now the unquestioned ruler of Limbo. And due to the 6 years of teaching she received while there, she had the ability to fight for her title if need be. Finally gaining confidence she would create a "stepping disc" and would return herself to home. When she arrives it would only be seconds from when they originally lost the younger Illyana. After a small conversation they believed her and took her to Professor X for further examination. He found that he was unable to probe her very much but did see, for the most part, that what she claims happened, did. She would stay at the mansion with the rest of the X-Men uneventfully for a short while. She would be roomed with Kitty Pryde. They became quick friends and would lay the foundation for a relationship as best friends that would be unending. But even to Kitty she revealed nothing. She made sure not to tell anyone one of her magical or mutant powers, wanting to keep them a secret. Illyana was attempting to try and cope with all the events and changes she went through while in Limbo. It was quite the task trying to hide 6 years of your life. Try as she might, Illyana could not hide forever and her secrets would be revealed.....well one of them at least. An unexpected arrival of Belasco would force her to use her mutant powers to teleport the New Mutants(mutant students who attend the Xavier Institute) to Limbo for their safety. Coincidently, this would be what she saw when she was stuck in Limbo many years ago. When all was said and done the New Mutants would be returned to Earth unharmed. Illyana would use a forgetting spell ensuring the New Mutants would not remember any of what occurred except for the fact that Illyana was a mutant. Once Professor X was informed of Illyana's mutant nature, she would be granted to ability to study with and join the New Mutants, which she gladly did.
the New Mutant
While apart of the New Mutants, Illyana would finally allow herself to let her guard down....a little. In a short time she became a powerful and valued member of the team. Although they knew she was a mutant, she still guarded her magical side intensely. Due to the barriers she kept up she sometimes felt misunderstood and alone but the others truly cared for her. As a team, the New Mutants would go through more than their fair share of battles. Though they had many successes, they too had many great loses. First Professor X steps down and leaves the school in the hand of the villainous Magneto. Magik and the New Mutants were none too happy about this change. Amidst the ups and downs of life Illyana finally revealed her magical side to her teammates, receiving mixed reviews. Shortly after that they would suffer yet another lose, this time the death of teammate Douglas Ramsey (Cypher). As if that wasn't enough, the New Mutants all would then have their lives snuffed out by the Beyonder during the Secret Wars. He made it as if they never existed. The Beyonder was bent on the idea of humanity and the attempt to gain one. He would have a machine created that if working properly give one life or bring one back to life. Needing a guinea pig/s he would test it on the recently departed members of the New Mutants. Though they were alive again, the experiences of their deaths and resurrections were far too traumatic for them. They all were severely mentally affected by their experiences. Magik and the New Mutants were mere husks of their former selves and showed no human emotions. Once they return to the Institute, Magneto would decide to send his students to Emma Frost the White Queen of the Hellfire Club and leader of the Hellions. Emma was to use her vast telepathic powers to help repair the the already damaged psyche's of each of the New Mutants.
While under the care of Emma Frost, she had the New Mutants enroll at her school and recruited them into her team of Hellions. This was her true plan all along. To her surprise though once Magik and the New Mutants were healed they would leave immediately back to the Xavier Institute. Never any rest for the wary, the events that Magik goes through next would be the most life changing for her. They would also bring her time with the New Mutants to an end.
The Inferno

Quest for Magik
House of M & the Quest for Magik
During the House of M storyline, the Scarlet Witch reimagined the world as we knew it and created they way she wished. Illyana came back to life and joined many of the new X-Men as students at SHIELD. She was placed in the Hellions training squad and, during their last mission, was told to take a group of mutated humans somewhere safe. She teleported just as chaos took over, and the House of M came to an end reverting back to the way it was before. In a world where Illyana was no longer alive, dead.
No one remembers ever meeting Magik because none of them remember the House of M. Later, the evil Belasco came looking for Magik, as he sense her presence that left behind during the House of M, and used his powers to take most of the students at the school prisoner. He smelled Magik on them but none of them remembered meeting her. All clues began to point to Magik being alive.
A group of free students on the run in Limbo ran into a version of Illyana in her Darkchild self. She revealed that she was recreated by Belasco, but in body and mind only. Her soul resided in her Soulsword, and that had been lost. She sought to create a new soulsword, and five new bloodstones of power, from the pure soul of Pixie. The process was only partially successful, resulting in only one bloodstone being created. Pixie ended up with a tiny soul dagger. Illyana then taught Pixie a teleportation spell, which allowed the students a full confrontation with Belasco. In the ensuing fight, Pixie stabbed Belasco with the dagger, allowing Illyana to use the bloodstone's power to presumably destroy Belasco. With Balesco’s defeat, she once again became queen of Limbo. Despite an emotional reunion with her brother, Piotr, she banished the X-Men from Limbo and sealed it off, not content to rest until she recovers her soul and becomes whole once again.

[MartinRedmond]

Ah, I thought you were the author. *posts*

[darkclaw]

Believe me, I tried 4 times, yanapride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Powers
Illyana has two very distinctive powers, one being her mutant power to generate teleporation energies in the form of stepping discs, the other was magic, learned while she was in Limbo. As more and more of her soul was removed it was replaced and filled with Black Magic granting vast mystical abilities. The two powers will be described separately below.
Mutant Power
Illyana Rasputin has the mutant ability to create and control teleportation energies in the form of "stepping disc's". These yellow rings of glowing light, once created, provide the ability to teleport. Not only just herself but a group of individuals as well, to a multitude of different places including through both time and space. The only limitation to her teleportation power is that she much use Limbo as her stopping point prior to her final destination, where-ever that may be. Magik can also teleport herself or others into her domain, Limbo or "Hell" dimension or out of it. As Limbo is her domain, Illyana is able to mentally scan Limbo, while on Earth in order to locate whomever she wishes to teleport to Earth from it.
Magik has succeeded in teleporting herself and another person across a continent on one occasion, and across centuries in time on another. However, Magik has not yet mastered her teleportation ability. The greater the distance over which she teleports, the greater the possible margin of error in terms of her arriving at the point in time she desires. Hence, when she once teleported herself and a friend from New York to California, hoping to arrive within seconds of the time she left, Magik and her friend instead arrived one week later, having accidentally traveled into the future. Magik is continuously practicing the use of her teleportation power in order to master it. Although already quite adept in the use of the mutant powers she still has a lot to learn especially considering how new she is to them.
In terms of potential Illyana's is nearly limitless. She was once told by Dr. Strange that she had the potential for great feats of manipulating time on a very wide scale. Never one to accept the status quo, Illyana continuously and regularly practices the use of her mutant powers in order to master them and have them grow in strength.
Magical Power
As a result of the time Illyana was forced to spend in Limbo, she was permanently changed both physically and mentally. She would spend a total of 6 years in Limbo during which she would learn valuable skills and abilities taught to her by different teachers that would help her in becoming the future Sorceress Supreme & Ruler of Limbo, that she was destined to become.
As a pupil of Ororo
During her first year in Limbo, Illyana was an apprentice to an alternate reality version of Storm. One who unfortunately was stuck in Limbo and lost the ability to control the weather instead becoming a powerful magician highly skilled in the use of white magic. So skilled was she, that she was nearly able to best Balesco in their very first battle faltering in the very end. During Illyana's time with the now elderly Ororo, she was taught in the uses and practices of white magic. Different from black magic, white magic usually helped rather then hurt when used. She was also taught about life, the creation of it and astral projection. It would be during the time that she would spend with the elderly Ororo that Illyana would learn, much later master, the ability to mystically heal herself. She would spend an entire year apprenticing under the tutelage of the elderly Ororo.
As a pupil of Cat
Following Illyana's first year with Ororo, Illyana then was trained by Cat. Cat was an alternate reality version of Kitty Pryde. No longer fully human in appearance, due to an interaction with Balesco, she had been transformed into a cat-like hybrid making her more animal in nature. As a result of the magical transformation forced on Cat, she had a hate for magic and wanted Illyana to have nothing to do with it. Illyana would train with Cat for 2 years, during which she would be taught how to fight, specifically, unarmed-combat and in the effective use of bladed weapons. Initially Cat taught Illyana how to use a dagger then moved on to that of swords. Illyana would become quite comfortable in the use of both weapons; comfortable and VERY effective. It was during her time with Cat that she was also taught valuable survival skills allowing her to thrive in the most unlikely places. Illyana would grow to become best friends with Cat and look at her like family, willing to do anything to protect her.
As a pupil of Belasco
It would be during her time with Limbo's, then, ruler Balesco that Illyana would learn and be changed the most. It was Balesco's goal to transform all 5 parts of Illyana's soul in Bloodstones. This was for two very different reasons. Firstly, with the 5 Bloodstones, Balesco could complete the magical Beatrice Medallion thus allowing him the ability to traverse to and from Limbo. An ability he had lost when he was exiled to Limbo by his masters the Elder Gods, for failing them. As a result of her soul being removed, it would be filled completely with black magic and would permanently make her a tool of both his, Balesco, and that of his evil masters the Elder Gods. This would make her a being of pure evil and thus helping the Elder Gods take of the Earth dimension.
Balesco would be unsuccessful in his ploy to remove all 5 parts of Illyana's soul. In the 3 years that she would learn under his tutelage, he would only manage to take 3/5 of her soul. This would still permanently taint her soul and as a result give her a partial demonic soul instead. It would be during her time as a pupil of Balesco's that he would teach her the darkest of the dark arts and the blackest of black magic. While at his palace she, too, had full access to Balesco's library of books of magic, that he had collected through this long, unnatural life. Balesco taught the young Illyana everything he knew. As a result of this, Illyana could produce virtually any and all spells that Balesco could and would be able to manipulate the forces of magic for a variety of effects to include.
-Mind Control (both humans and animals)
-Metamorphing (himself, others or objects. living or otherwise)
-Astral Projection
-Necromancy
-Generate and release concussive bolts of pure magic energy
-Creations of magical force fields
-Interdimensional travel
-Ability to generate and manipulate fire
-Mental Possession
-Dark force manipulation
-Creation of constructs purely of magical energies
As a result of Illyana's diverse training and multiple years learning while in Limbo, she gained a aptitude for a sorcery and control of magic that was unlike no other. She had created a unique blend of both white and black magic that she would wield. Additionally, due to her now partially demonic soul, Illyana had also naturally gained formidable psionic shielding granting her immunity to metal probing. These shieldings were effective enough to hinder the vaunted telepathic abilities of both Professor X and Marvel Girl (Rachel Summers) arguably two of the most powerful mutant minds the world has seen.
After Illyana bested Balesco in battle, she chose to exile him from the Limbo, allowing him to live rather than kill him. As the winner, Illyana, was granted the title of Sorceress Supreme of Limbo. The full extents of her powers have not yet been fully defined. It have been stated that in Limbo, Illyana's power is unmatched and her word is law. With but a single thought she can completely alter the physical appearance of Limbo. As stated previously, she too, potentially, could cast all spells that Balesco could have. This especially since she has unlimited access to Balesco's sorceress knowledge. For this reason and more Illyana is most powerful during her time in Limbo. This is clearly a result of her should being connected to the dimension, allowing for the two being intertwined by the very essences that they are created from. On the flip side, while on the Earth dimension, cut off from Limbo, Illyana's magical prowess and abilities are dramatically reduced. Illyana has preformed a handful of magical skills on Earth but nothing comparable to that of what she can do in Limbo. While on Earth, Illyana has effectively preformed; Astral projection, an abilities to sense magical presences and the ability to magically scan her Limbo dimension, allowing her to track and/or see all that occurs in Limbo while she is away. Illyana's most notable power while on Earth though are largely limited to her magical weapon, of her own making, called the SoulSword.

[MartinRedmond]

Is this mandatory reading to remain part of the fanclub?

[darkclaw]

The Soulsword
The SoulSword is the ultimate embodiment of Illyana's magical strength. Forged during a time of great need and despair. Illyana was desperate to find a way to free herself of Balesco and find a way to leave Limbo. Attempting to use the white magics that her previous teacher, the elderly Ororo, taught her. She attempted to create with all her strength to create something that would help her free herself. Only to find that she would fail each time. Realizing that she could not properly produce the exact spells as the elderly Ororo, she found it was because they used magic with differing motives. Reconfiguring the spells, she would use a portion of her still intact pure soul combined with her motivation, that she found was revenge, a bright light grew directly in front of her. When she reached in she drew forth, what appeared to be a very simple looking silver sword. When she fully grasped it and pulled it from the light, light enveloped it completely and surge of energy consumed Illyana. While in Illyana's hands the SoulSword, as she named it, aided her in defeating Balesco, ruling Limbo, controlling her demons in Limbo while she was away and aided her in battle while she was on the Earth dimension. With each and every use of the blade, its strength grew and its abilities increase exponentially. Much later it was revealed that the sword was just the beginning of her magically strengths. Through time a suit of armor composed of the same magical properties as the sword would come to the holder of the blade. It was revealed by Dr. Doom that the SoulSword granted ruler ship of Limbo, and the armor was, by right, the protection given to the owner of the sword. The strengths and extents of Illyana's SoulSword were never fully revealed. Her SoulSword did though show a number of very specific magical attributes and abilities that included the follow:
Grants Ruler ship of Limbo: He who own/wields the SoulSword is granted ruler ship or dominion over Limbo, though the full power of the sword could only be accessed by Illyana.
Disruption of Magic & Breaking of Spells: This includes its very lethal nature to that of magical beings.
Soul Absorption: With the sword, the wielder is able to absorb souls of others either permanently or to simply store and transfer. If kept in the sword it would increase the swords strength.
Sword Summoning: Granting the owner of the sword to place and store it in absolute nothingness and allowing the own to retrieve from whence its place with ease.
Teleportation Disc's: As a result of the SoulSword being forge from as piece of Illyana's soul, it would wields the ability to create teleportation stepping discs. Thus allowing the current owner the same ability.
Dimensional Manipulation: The ruler of Limbo can mentally manipulate the physical appearance of Limbo, allowing it to look/appear as they wish it to.
Augment Magical Powers: Whom ever holds or owns the sword is granted increased magical strength.
Spell casting: When holding the SoulSword, it grants the hold the ability to cast or produce magic, even if they do not have the ability to do so.
Summoning of Mystical Eldritch Armor: It was revealed by Dr. Doom that the mystical armor that manifests on the individual that wields the SoulSword is actually a magical armor provided to any who rule Limbo.
Super Strength: When wearing the mystical armor, Illyana displayed a increase in her own personal strength. Shown when she did battle with her, one time, servant S'ym. During the Inferno invasion the two did battle. Illyana would easily grab S'ym and throw him yards away from her with only one arm.
The SoulSword is unable to harm being of non-magical origin but for unknown reasons, the Soulsword can physically injure Kitty Pryde, alias Shadowcat, even when she is using her phasing power to become intangible. Pryde is also the only known person other than Magik who can wield the SoulSword effectively. When Pryde does so, Magik's armor begins to appear on Pryde's body. Moreover, when the Beyonder once freed Illyana from the influence of her Dark soul, Pryde gained the ability to produce and wield the SoulSword. Illyana later took the Dark soul influence back upon herself in order that she could again wield the Soulsword to save Pryde's life from a demon. The reason for the mystical connection between Illyana Rasputin and Kitty Pryde, each of whom is the other's best friend, is unknown.
More recently, Amanda Sefton placed a Soulsword, presumably Magik's, in Nightcrawler's care and keeping. Kurt has been able to wield this sword, pulling it out of his chest on occasions when confronted by supernatural threats.
Special Skills:
Illyana is bi-lingual. She is fluent in both Russia and English.
Illyana is highly skilled in the mystical arts and swordplay as well.
Limitations:
Illyana's mutant teleporting abilities are potentially limitless with one exception. She MUST use Limbo as her segue point prior to reaching her final destination. Limbo must always be her mid point regardless.
Illyana's magic is nearly limitless only while in Limbo, while on the Earth dimension her magics are very limited. Allowing her predominantly the use of her SoulSword.
Illyana's SoulSword, powerful as it may be, is unable to harm anyone that is not magical making the sword only usable in very specific situations.

[darkclaw]

Alternate Realities
Earth-58163

House of M Illyana
In this re-envisioned/recreated version of Earth-616 world of Scarlet Witch, called House of M, mutants are the majority and are in power and baseline humans are forced to live in hiding. Here the roles are very much the opposite of the mainstream Earth. Young mutants and their burgeoning mutant powers now have two options for their future schools and futures and mutants in society. They can either pick between the New Mutant Leadership Institute, ran by Xi'an Coy Mahn (Karma), where here they develop the future diplomats and leaders of the world, though they do not get combat training and tend to enroll mutants with passive powers. The other option is to join the SHIELD training program, ran bySebastian Shaw. It is here they have a more military training focusing on warfare and covert operations and enroll mutants with active battle ready powers. The training team is called the Hellions. This group included Scion (Earth-616's Hellion), Magik (Illyana Rasputin), Synch, Quill, Surge, Wind Dancer (now known as Renascence), Anole & Danielle Moonstar. Moonstar is a fully-fledged S.H.I.E.L.D. operative and is assigned to the training of the Hellions. Though she is the trainer she does participate in active battle with them. Her assistant trainers are the twin mutant siblingsAurora and Northstar.
Earth-4210
The Magik from Earth-4210 was a member of the Exiles. She replaced Blink when she supposedly was sent home (Which she wasn't). This version of Illyana was much more bloodthirsty, not hesitating when it came to missions involving killing.
Earth-295

Lil Illyana (AoA)


In the Age of Apocalypse reality, Colossus was never recruited by Xavier as he was already dead. Due to this the events that led to Illyana be kidnapped never occurred. Illyana was never kidnapped by Belasco, she was instead imprisoned in the Seattle Core. Colossus, Shadowcat and their students dubbed Generation X were sent on a mission to rescue her. Colossus didn't think of or care for anything but to rescue Illyana. This led to the deaths of all of his students. All save Husk, who would later attempt to get revenge for Colossus' actions. Illyana in this reality was too young for her teleportation powers to have occurred naturally, but in combination with the M'krann Crystal a chance was stood. She knowingly chose to give her life for the opportunity to better the life of others. The price paid off as their ploy to fix Earth #616 was successful.
Earth-1610
The Ultimate Universe Illyana has yet to made an actual appearance, but she has been referred to. When her brother Colossus was at a fair he indicated that he would like to win a stuffed animal for his little snowflake, Illyana.
Earth-811
In the apocalyptic timeline known as Days of Future Past, a battle between humans and mutants was waged. The humans would win, using Sentinels as a weapon. This future was a very different time seeing all but a few X-Men alive after the initial onslaught from the Sentinels. Illyana would be one of the first of two to die along with her aunt Amanda Sefton. Initially thought to have died with Nightcrawler as well, but Nightcrawler was later revealed to have died at a later date.
Earth-904
WHAT IF The X-Men Never Returned From Asgard?
In this reality Illyana along with some other X-Men and most all of the New Mutants decided to stay in Asgard rather then return, as the Earth #616 counterparts. Unlike her counterpart she more then easily defeats the Enchantress in battle and would replace her in title and power. Though in the divergent reality she would be overcome by the power and turn evil. Illyana would sufficiently be able to handle them here. Illyana would also serve as the liaison between Asgard and Hel. This is because her friend and once team-mate Danielle Moonstar had taken the place of Hela and was now the goddess of death.
Earth-4210

DarkChyld
The Illyana of the reality known as Shattershot lived a very similar life to that of the mainstream Illyana, with one significant difference. When Illyana of this reality is regressed in age at the end of Inferno, she does not get infected with the Legacy Virus and instead lives. She grows up and naturally gains her mutant powers. She would also have her magical gifts, though would be unexplained as how since she had not been corrupted by Belasco. Years later Illyana joins X-Force along with many of her old New Mutant team-mates. Now though her team-mates are approximately 10-15 years older than her. They still look at her as their equal, but when she was regressed she lost all of her memories of them. She looks at them as more of uncles and aunts.
Earth-717
In this reality both Illyana and her brother Piotr (Colossus) would not join Xavier's cause instead they would join the Soviet version of the Fantastic Four known as "The Ultimate Federalists Freedom Fighters." Where Colossus has pretty much the same powers as his counterpart, Illyana, though, doesn't. She is similar to that of Earth #616's Invisible Women. Illyana can make herself invisible mystically, only seen when she chooses to allow someone to.
Earth-2182
The events of what happened to illyana in the reality known as Professor W's X-Men (Nocturne's reality) are largely unknown. What is known is that Colossus sacrificed life when he voluntarily gave his soul up and had it merged with Limbo. This was so that he could save the life of his sister, Illyana, and by effect save Limbo at the same time.
Earth-987
WHAT IF Colossus never joined the X-Men?
In this reality Peter was preoccupied in a conversation when a run-away tractor hit and killed Illyana. At the time he was talking to Professor X about joining his team. Due to this he blamed Xavier for her death and declined membership. He would still live a super hero life though, instead though for Russia. During his time as a hero he met, fell in love with and married Darkstar. They eventually had their first child, a girl, that they named Illyana.
Earth-?
Time-Cross Caper
In this reality a child version of Illyana wearing regalia(robes) like that of Dr. Strange was a mob boss. She was in the organized crime business with her partner and best friend Shadowcat.

[yanapryde]

DARKCLAW!!!:eek:

[darkclaw]

There we are, folks, sorry it was so big but Illyana is such a complex person. If anyone could teach me how to,post links to this w/o cut-and-paste (admittedly my preferred method) I'd appreciate it. For some reason, this site won't take my links.

[Prodigy55]

Here is a mock-up of what I believe her uniform will look like, based on that ONE page we've seen so far, where she's all tattered and beaten.
Not my best work, but its just to show the potential costume design.

This is AMAZING.
I demand to see more of your art, it's wonderful!

[darkclaw]

DARKCLAW!!!:eek:

Yes, yanapride? I tried apologizing twice now. Please read my final post for my reason. Can you help So's I don't have to do this again?

[yanapryde]

This is AMAZING.
I demand to see more of your art, it's wonderful!

thanks prodigy.
I was worried nobody would end up seeing it after
THE NOVEL
darkclaw copied and pasted about our gal.

anyone with half a brain could easily look up Magik's history via marvel's website, comicvine.com or wikipedia.
All the same, the sentiment is nice, darkclaw. thanks.:wink:

[darkclaw]

This is AMAZING.
I demand to see more of your art, it's wonderful!

This work reminds me a bit of the work of Alex Lei. Really good job!

[darkclaw]

anyone with half a brain could easily look up Magik's history via marvel's website, comicvine.com or wikipedia.
All the same, the sentiment is nice, darkclaw. thanks.:wink:

Ok, I'll admit that, so how did we end up with yesterday's diatribe?

[darkclaw]

Is this mandatory reading to remain part of the fanclub?

I just wanted to post the bio so's people were up to speed on her, that's all.



Sorry, I guess I'm still a little miffed at that "Least Useful Mutant" title someone tried saddling her with.:tongue: