Illyana "Magik" Rasputin Appreciation

[NielsVanEekelen]

And congrajulations are in order to yanaryde and Illyana for this thread reaching 1000 posts

And only 122 of those are mine. :tongue:

Wait. 123 now.

[SayOcean]

Yes we demand links to this info you have on illyana and xforce

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Yes we demand links to this info you have on illyana and xforce

It's already been posted but just in case you missed it, I'll post it:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22578

[SayOcean]

It's already been posted but just in case you missed it, I'll post it:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22578yeah i just saw it and i let out one of the gayest sounds in my life....the people in the library were surprised

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yeah i just saw it and i let out one of the gayest sounds in my life....the people in the library were surprised

Lol. You crack me up.

[SayOcean]

yeah i just saw it and i let out one of the gayest sounds in my life....the people in the library were surprisedbut they shouldnt be: :smile:

Lol. You crack me up. thanks enjoy it now, in a few weeks we'll probably get into an argument about Leong and Nga's powers are gonna be if marvel allows them to grow up

[chemicalx]

the twins mutant power will be the ability to disappear and have their older sister forget they were ever around... where the heck are those kids anyway???


side note: how cool would a team up between Magik and Sister Grim be???

[NielsVanEekelen]

side note: how cool would a team up between Magik and Sister Grim be???

Very. That's another team-up I'd love to see and since they're both on the left coast...

But then I'd love to see Yana in more storylines focused on the magical part of the Marvel U in general. Which sounds like it might happen in Dr. Voodoo, fingers crossed.

[SayOcean]

maybe our little snowflake is down with the brown?

[Darkchylde]

Very. That's another team-up I'd love to see and since they're both on the left coast...

But then I'd love to see Yana in more storylines focused on the magical part of the Marvel U in general. Which sounds like it might happen in Dr. Voodoo, fingers crossed.

I agree; hopefully Illyana will make some guest appearances in Dr. Voodoo's new series, especially in light of the fact that the writer, Ricke Remender, has commented that Voodoo will be keeping an eye on some of the more powerful mystical artifacts and beings floating around the Marvel Universe. I think wielding the Soulsword and being raised in Limbo as a servant to a demon lord and his Elder Gods makes Little Snowflake a candidate for close observation, no?

[yanapryde]

I agree; hopefully Illyana will make some guest appearances in Dr. Voodoo's new series, especially in light of the fact that the writer, Ricke Remender, has commented that Voodoo will be keeping an eye on some of the more powerful mystical artifacts and beings floating around the Marvel Universe. I think wielding the Soulsword and being raised in Limbo as a servant to a demon lord and his Elder Gods makes Little Snowflake a candidate for close observation, no?

And what is the scoop on Mr.Remender's title's release date?
When ca we start 'Magik-Watch-2009' or 2010?

[NielsVanEekelen]

Yup, he mentioned "a child of Limbo living in San Francisco" specifically.

Dr. Voodoo launches in October, I think?

[Darkchylde]

Yup, he mentioned "a child of Limbo living in San Francisco" specifically.

Dr. Voodoo launches in October, I think?

Somehow, the fanboy in me thinks Remender should have also mentioned the Soulsword somewhere. At one point in time, it was one of the most powerful artifacts in the Marvel Universe; everyone from Belasco to Doctor Doom wanted it. These days, it just seems to be another soul weapon, a counterpart to Pixie's - blech! - continuity-fudging soul dagger.

[yanapryde]

Somehow, the fanboy in me thinks Remender should have also mentioned the Soulsword somewhere. At one point in time, it was one of the most powerful artifacts in the Marvel Universe; everyone from Belasco to Doctor Doom wanted it. These days, it just seems to be another soul weapon, a counterpart to Pixie's - blech! - continuity-fudging soul dagger.

I would have liked a knod to the Soulsword's importance, however that also digs up references to those AWFUL SOULSTEEL stories that...lets face it...ought to be forgotten and abolished from anyone's memory for their horrible handling of Illyana's history.

I'm satisfied wtih 'child of Limbo' for now.
Hell...I'm thrilled for any reference to Illyana in other books, cameo or not.

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Since the Soulsword was forged through Illyana's remaining innocent soul with the purpose of revenge against Belasco, here's my interpretation of it: not only is the sword the absolute expression of Illyana's magical might but also a weapon of light to destroy evil and darkness (although why does Illyana need to go evil when she uses her soulsword?).

[Darkchylde]

Since the Soulsword was forged through Illyana's remaining innocent soul with the purpose of revenge against Belasco, here's my interpretation of it: not only is the sword the absolute expression of Illyana's magical might but also a weapon of light to destroy evil and darkness (although why does Illyana need to go evil when she uses her soulsword?).

I can see what you're saying about the Soulsword being a scourge of darkness, but then that negates the corruptive influence that id had on Illyana during Louise Simonson's stint on The New Mutants. Between that, Scott Lobdell's 'Prometheum Exchange' and Warren Ellis' awful 'Soul Sword Trilogy' in Excalibur, which stated that the sword ''drove [Illyana] mad," I get a headache trying to keep it all together.

[yanapryde]

Since the Soulsword was forged through Illyana's remaining innocent soul with the purpose of revenge against Belasco, here's my interpretation of it: not only is the sword the absolute expression of Illyana's magical might but also a weapon of light to destroy evil and darkness (although why does Illyana need to go evil when she uses her soulsword?).

I feel that her evil side is more closely tied to her emotions.
A certain level of hostility can easily allow for her Darkchild tendancies to become dominant.
Often times, motivation for summoning her Soulsword would be for hostile means (battle) and thus causing Illyana to lose her temper as well as self control over the evil inside her.

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I can see what you're saying about the Soulsword being a scourge of darkness, but then that negates the corruptive influence that id had on Illyana during Louise Simonson's stint on The New Mutants. Between that, Scott Lobdell's 'Prometheum Exchange' and Warren Ellis' awful 'Soul Sword Trilogy' in Excalibur, which stated that the sword ''drove [Illyana] mad," I get a headache trying to keep it all together.

Maybe any writer can say the soulsword has been corrupted when Illyana became permanently the Darkchilde in Louise Simonson's run and as for Warren Ellis's, it can be said that the sword was infected with evil and Amanda Sefton restored it to it's original shape (seriously, couldn't at least Nightcrawler give the sword to Colossus? I think it makes sense since Colossus is Magik's older brother). Or better yet, the whole thing of it in Excalibur can be ignored.

If I have to pick between Scott Lodbell's or Warren Ellis's interpretation of the soulsword, I'd rather pick Lodbell's because at least he didn't wrote the sword was evil.

I feel that her evil side is more closely tied to her emotions.
A certain level of hostility can easily allow for her Darkchild tendancies to become dominant.
Often times, motivation for summoning her Soulsword would be for hostile means (battle) and thus causing Illyana to lose her temper as well as self control over the evil inside her.

Illyana mentioned from Magik LS #4 that her soulsword was also forged through her grief and rage so I think it relates to what you're saying.

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I feel that her evil side is more closely tied to her emotions.
A certain level of hostility can easily allow for her Darkchild tendancies to become dominant.
Often times, motivation for summoning her Soulsword would be for hostile means (battle) and thus causing Illyana to lose her temper as well as self control over the evil inside her.

The way you mentioned it sort of reminded me of The Hulk.

[sunofdarkchild]

Since the Soulsword was forged through Illyana's remaining innocent soul with the purpose of revenge against Belasco, here's my interpretation of it: not only is the sword the absolute expression of Illyana's magical might but also a weapon of light to destroy evil and darkness (although why does Illyana need to go evil when she uses her soulsword?).

I think it is such a weapon, just a blend of light and dark power like Illyana was originally written to have. I also think that it is much more powerful than Illyana has ever let on.

Lately the sword has not turned Illyana into the Darkchylde. In fact, touching it turned her mostly human, made her much more compassionate, and even gave her back the good part of her soul that Belasco never corrupted.

I'm still waiting for the answer to the ultimate soul sword question. What's up with the change from a lightsaber-tybe sword to a medival typre sword?

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Lately the sword has not turned Illyana into the Darkchylde. In fact, touching it turned her mostly human, made her much more compassionate, and even gave her back the good part of her soul that Belasco never corrupted.

I thought the Darkchilde is the physical manifestation of Illyana's dark side.

[yanapryde]

Kiel Phegley: justinkos91 had some questions about the most well-known Russians in Marvel lore: "Recently, Illyana Rasputin is back from the dead, and her and Colossus were reunited again at the end of that issue, but after that, both are on a separate path again; Illyana joining the New Mutants and Colossus appearing in ‘Uncanny X-Men.’ Illyana is the only family Piotr has nowadays, with his parents and brother being gone. Will we see him and Illyana interact a bit more?

Joe Quesada: Justinkos91, most times we’ve seen the two in the same room, Illyana has pretty much run away. So she’s not crazy about spending a lot of time with Piotr. He’ll obviously want to change that, but it’s not really up to him. There will be some more interaction between the two in “Utopia” and in “Necrosha” and a few other places. After that, just wait for some big things on the horizon.

[MuhollandDriver]

Sounds like the two are getting themselves a plot somewhere down the road!

[yanapryde]

Sounds like the two are getting themselves a plot somewhere down the road!

here's hoping!
The more cameos and/or storylines she's involved in the better!

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Kiel Phegley: justinkos91 had some questions about the most well-known Russians in Marvel lore: "Recently, Illyana Rasputin is back from the dead, and her and Colossus were reunited again at the end of that issue, but after that, both are on a separate path again; Illyana joining the New Mutants and Colossus appearing in ‘Uncanny X-Men.’ Illyana is the only family Piotr has nowadays, with his parents and brother being gone. Will we see him and Illyana interact a bit more?

Joe Quesada: Justinkos91, most times we’ve seen the two in the same room, Illyana has pretty much run away. So she’s not crazy about spending a lot of time with Piotr. He’ll obviously want to change that, but it’s not really up to him. There will be some more interaction between the two in “Utopia” and in “Necrosha” and a few other places. After that, just wait for some big things on the horizon.

Well it's quite understandable she doesn't want to spend some time with her brother despite she loves him considering the fact she very much dirtied her hands and feels she's not worth for redemption (poor girl).

Sounds like the two are getting themselves a plot somewhere down the road!

I will be expecting something big to happen in the third or fourth story arc of New Mutants since it will be a continuation from X-infernus according to Zeb Wells (fingers crossed).

[Justin K.]

Kiel Phegley: justinkos91 had some questions about the most well-known Russians in Marvel lore: "Recently, Illyana Rasputin is back from the dead, and her and Colossus were reunited again at the end of that issue, but after that, both are on a separate path again; Illyana joining the New Mutants and Colossus appearing in ‘Uncanny X-Men.’ Illyana is the only family Piotr has nowadays, with his parents and brother being gone. Will we see him and Illyana interact a bit more?

Joe Quesada: Justinkos91, most times we’ve seen the two in the same room, Illyana has pretty much run away. So she’s not crazy about spending a lot of time with Piotr. He’ll obviously want to change that, but it’s not really up to him. There will be some more interaction between the two in “Utopia” and in “Necrosha” and a few other places. After that, just wait for some big things on the horizon.

Awesome, so glad to see my question answered. :smile:

It would be nice to see something reminiscent of the 1980s
in particular, something similar to Uncanny X-men 231

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Here's an image from a preview of issue #4 of the New Mutants I found (and man, Illyana never looked that bad ass and I loved her dialogue).

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/3254/prv3254_pg7.jpg

[Darkchylde]

I thought the Darkchilde is the physical manifestation of Illyana's dark side.

Correct; Illyana's dark side is manifested as the Darkchilde, the part of her soul that was corrupted by Belasco and prophesied to liberate the Elder Gods and destroy the earth.

[Darkchylde]

I'm still waiting for the answer to the ultimate soul sword question. What's up with the change from a lightsaber-tybe sword to a medival typre sword?

I think Chris Claremont was hinting at the time to changes in Illyana that even she was aware of. Remember the first time her eldritch armor manifested? Even Illyana was surprised as to its appearance, and the more the armor spread to other parts of her body, the more concerned she became as to its significance. Personally, a better ultimate Soulsword question would be, why did the Soulsword and eldritch armor transfer to Kitty whenever Illyana "died" or was incapacitated (ee The New Mutants # 36-37 and "Inferno", respectively)?

But since both plots were part of an overall plan Claremont had for Illyana, and since he has thus far remained mum on the subject, I guess we'll never know.

[Darkchylde]

Here's an image from a preview of issue #4 of the New Mutants I found (and man, Illyana never looked that bad ass and I loved her dialogue).

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/3254/prv3254_pg7.jpg


I know other posters have complained about the dialogue in this issue, but I don't really have a problem with it. I also think Illyana happens to have the best lines so far:

''I bring you a gospel of oblivion. I bring you the Soulsword," and "You are many. I have many ways to kill you."

Homegirl ain't playin' around. That's good stuff right there.

[Leirus]

Gospel of Oblivion

Atta Girl... Is Funny how Legion is beating them up outside while inside all of...er, him is scared of "The Witch"

Someone should do a thread for this preview, I want to discuss the Dani/Sam impending Doom

[The Black Guardian]

I know other posters have complained about the dialogue in this issue, but I don't really have a problem with it. I also think Illyana happens to have the best lines so far:

''I bring you a gospel of oblivion. I bring you the Soulsword," and "You are many. I have many ways to kill you."

Homegirl ain't playin' around. That's good stuff right there.
Agreed. There's nothing wrong with that dialogue.

[sunofdarkchild]

Gospel of Oblivion

Atta Girl... Is Funny how Legion is beating them up outside while inside all of...er, him is scared of "The Witch"

Someone should do a thread for this preview, I want to discuss the Dani/Sam impending Doom

"I bring you a Gospel of Oblivion." The girlis hardcore.

It is definately funny that while all of Legion's personalities are terrrified of Illyana Legion teases Magma about using x-ray vision on her.

So, is Illyana being misled by the personalities away from Karma? Or are they too scared to risk her wrath again?

And Illyana killed Jack Wayne! She killed a significant baddie!

[chemicalx]

I love her in this preview. If she wasnt here Sam and the rest would be lost here...

[yanapryde]

I love her in this preview. If she wasnt here Sam and the rest would be lost here...

Illyana IS the reason they're all together again.
And I'm itching to get Dark Avengers 8 this week to find out how her involvement with the X-Force crew goes as they infiltrate Osborn's detainment facility and liberate the captive mutants!

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I know other posters have complained about the dialogue in this issue, but I don't really have a problem with it. I also think Illyana happens to have the best lines so far:

''I bring you a gospel of oblivion. I bring you the Soulsword," and "You are many. I have many ways to kill you."

Homegirl ain't playin' around. That's good stuff right there.

If anything, I had complained about her dialogue and characterization that appeared at the start of issue #21 and beyond during Claremont's and Simonson's run of the New Mutants classic. It just doesn't fit her and makes no sense. I really love how Zeb Wells is handling Illyana's character with respect.

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I would really like to see a Magik animated movie based from Magik LS.

[Seccruz]

I would really like to see a Magik animated movie based from Magik LS.

That would be soo cool. Yana's a great and complex character. Glad that she's back.

[PO!]

Yana is amazing, at first I was really skeptical about her return, but after 3 issues of NM Im so glad that our hellis snow blake is back!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2246/2247378219_728cf41e9f.jpg

[yanapryde]

Interesting imagery I found.
Although it included some Exiles imagery, some this I have not seen prior.
http://visibletime.ararchive.com/_Illyana_Rasputin-Magik_.jpg

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Interesting imagery I found.
Although it included some Exiles imagery, some this I have not seen prior.
http://visibletime.ararchive.com/_Illyana_Rasputin-Magik_.jpg

You are my new hero. That was quite a treat you showed to us posters.

[NielsVanEekelen]

Interesting imagery I found.
Although it included some Exiles imagery, some this I have not seen prior.
<BIGIMAGE>

What from the collage didn't you know? I can probably identify it. :smile:

[yanapryde]

What from the collage didn't you know? I can probably identify it. :smile:

I had been previously unaware of those images with Illyana in green, with her medallion, speaking with Xavier.
Do you happen to know the issue? (silly question, I'm sure)

[sunofdarkchild]

I had been previously unaware of those images with Illyana in green, with her medallion, speaking with Xavier.
Do you happen to know the issue? (silly question, I'm sure)

Uncanny between 162 and 164.

If you go to uncannyxmen.net they have a (incomplete now that she's back) character bio of Illyana. In it there's a picture from the same issue where Illyana tell Xavier "I can do things just like Peter."

Xavier asks "What sort of things?"

The answer "Oh....things."

Look at Xavier's thoughts there and tell me you don't hate him in that scene.

[NielsVanEekelen]

I had been previously unaware of those images with Illyana in green, with her medallion, speaking with Xavier.
Do you happen to know the issue? (silly question, I'm sure)

Sunofdarkchild is correct.

It's from Uncanny X-Men #164, while the X-Men were being Brood-y in space. :smile:

[NielsVanEekelen]

I'm 500 posts old today. I thought it only right to come celebrate it with art in my favorite thread. :tongue:

Inferno-Promo!
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9098/inferno3.png

Mucha-Magik! Sienkie-Magik!
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4470/magikforbeastie.jpghttp://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7348/bsmagikcommiscaf.jpg

[yanapryde]

Those images are gorgeous.
I'm particularly fond of the cleaner, penciled drawing with the skulls in the upper corner. Really nice!

I got to thinking today.
Where did Illyana go upon her return from Limbo at the end of X-Infernus?
Perhaps she lept into the future to discern whether she would reclaim the remaining fragments of her soul...?
And in doing so....she learned that several of her teammates may have died at the hands of Legion, possibly due to her absence. Time travel confuses me so trying to understand it all makes my head spin but I make the effort for Illyana.

Also...(I believe this was already mentioned) I really like the detail behind her first line in issue one of "There still here."
Foreshadowing of the X-Men's relocating to a now resurfaced and floating Asteroid M. Nice touch Zeb Wells!

[NielsVanEekelen]

I got to thinking today.
Where did Illyana go upon her return from Limbo at the end of X-Infernus?


First, she went to visit her parents' graves. In my personal canon, anyway. :tongue:

Also, speaking of that opening scene--if we accept that that remark was specific foreshadowing of the current Exodus, we have to look at the rest. She was glad that the kids were still pissed at her, so is there a situation coming up where them acting out of that anger causes something important to happen? Did she purposely taunt them?

[yanapryde]

First, she went to visit her parents' graves. In my personal canon, anyway. :tongue:

Also, speaking of that opening scene--if we accept that that remark was specific foreshadowing of the current Exodus, we have to look at the rest. She was glad that the kids were still pissed at her, so is there a situation coming up where them acting out of that anger causes something important to happen? Did she purposely taunt them?

Perhaps she was relieved that they were mad as a sign that she had reached the appropriate distance in time to prevent the deaths of her teammates?

Maybe she did a little jumping around before reaching her final destination (hence the magic arrows) at the XHQ and at some point during her time-skipping she came across some kinder gentler X-Kids. Perhaps courtesy of Rogue taking them under her wing in the Legacy title? And upon arriving at that point in time she thought "Oh please this can't be right...I gotta go back further!" ha ha

Speculating is super fun.:tongue:

[NielsVanEekelen]

(hence the magic arrows)

Which are looking more and more likely to be Valkyrie arrows, don't you think? :smile:

[yanapryde]

Which are looking more and more likely to be Valkyrie arrows, don't you think? :smile:

Ooooooooooooooh you are so cleverrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Who's a smarty?! YOU ARE!:smile:

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The scene from the new NM #1 when Anole was going to punch Illyana, I think she wanted to get punched because she's so full of self loathing and depression based from her actions and past and after reading a blog relating to it, I thought to myself that made sense.


here's the link of the blog:

http://grebok-sod.livejournal.com/53152.html

[steve2275]

Kiel Phegley: justinkos91 had some questions about the most well-known Russians in Marvel lore: "Recently, Illyana Rasputin is back from the dead, and her and Colossus were reunited again at the end of that issue, but after that, both are on a separate path again; Illyana joining the New Mutants and Colossus appearing in ‘Uncanny X-Men.’ Illyana is the only family Piotr has nowadays, with his parents and brother being gone. Will we see him and Illyana interact a bit more?

Joe Quesada: Justinkos91, most times we’ve seen the two in the same room, Illyana has pretty much run away. So she’s not crazy about spending a lot of time with Piotr. He’ll obviously want to change that, but it’s not really up to him. There will be some more interaction between the two in “Utopia” and in “Necrosha” and a few other places. After that, just wait for some big things on the horizon.
better than nuthing i suppose

[Tori Pagac]

http://tori.rubberslug.com/gallery/inv_info.asp?ItemID=229500 what comic is this from i own this page but i have no idea it made me very happy because i love both yana and spidey but i have no idea what exxiles this is

[Darkchylde]

http://tori.rubberslug.com/gallery/inv_info.asp?ItemID=229500 what comic is this from i own this page but i have no idea it made me very happy because i love both yana and spidey but i have no idea what exxiles this is

I actually own those issues of Exiles. I forget the issues, but basically, the Exiles (a group of alternate reality versions of Marvel characters who bounce from dimension to dimension to correct a fundamental flaw in that reality's timeline) arrived on a world where Kulan Gath had taken over Manhattan (as seen in Uncanny X-Men circa # 189-190) but was then deposed by a Zarathos-possessed Ghost Rider. Spider-Man led a rebellion against Zarathos with Gath as an ally, and the Exiles learned that one of his secret weapons against Zarathos was Illyana Rasputin and the Soulsword (because it could disrupt Zarathos' enchantments).

Sadly, Illyana was killed in that story by a vampire Morbius, now under the thrall of Zarathos. I didn't like that part of the story; but otherwise, good stuff! :biggrin:

[NielsVanEekelen]

http://tori.rubberslug.com/gallery/inv_info.asp?ItemID=229500 what comic is this from i own this page but i have no idea it made me very happy because i love both yana and spidey but i have no idea what exxiles this is

Ooh, I loved "Kulan Gath Takes Manhattan," and I loved the Exiles return to it! And particularly Illyana's role in both, but that goes without saying.

Exiles #55-57, or trade paperback vol.9: Bump in the Night.

Edit: This specific page would be from #55.

[Twisted Bliss]

As part of my continued dislike of that johnny-come-lately Pixe, I was considering what distinguishes Illyana and her powerset from Pixie.

Then it struck me. Illyana can teleport objects on their own via her stepping disks as opposed to Pixie's whatevers in the surrounding area teleportation spell.

I also recall the House of M Illyana opening a stepping disk and directing a bullet at her enemy. In House of M she was also able to open stepping disks in the air and appear to be floating by keeping the disk open.

Has she used her abilities in this fashion in the 616 universe? I know she seperated Magus's tendril/body from the alien planet by opening a stepping disk though the middle. Could she concieveably teleport peoples limbs off i.e. an offensive use of teleportation kind of like 616 Blink's displacement porting ability?

[NielsVanEekelen]

As part of my continued dislike of that johnny-come-lately Pixe, I was considering what distinguishes Illyana and her powerset from Pixie.

Then it struck me. Illyana can teleport objects on their own via her stepping disks as opposed to Pixie's whatevers in the surrounding area teleportation spell.

I also recall the House of M Illyana opening a stepping disk and directing a bullet at her enemy. In House of M she was also able to open stepping disks in the air and appear to be floating by keeping the disk open.

Has she used her abilities in this fashion in the 616 universe? I know she seperated Magus's tendril/body from the alien planet by opening a stepping disk though the middle. Could she concieveably teleport peoples limbs off i.e. an offensive use of teleportation kind of like 616 Blink's displacement porting ability?

She could conceivably kill by partial teleportation, yeah. I don't think the limits of the stepping disks in that regard have really been set. (I'm reminded of Age of Apocalypse Nightcrawler, who once grabbed someone's finger and teleported away with it.)

House of M took great liberties with Illyana's powers, though. Standing on the air on a disk might be a great visual, but I really don't see how it works with what we know of the disks. (HoM Illyana didn't even appear to know what Limbo was, instead of visiting there every time she teleported.)

[Twisted Bliss]

House of M took great liberties with Illyana's powers, though. Standing on the air on a disk might be a great visual, but I really don't see how it works with what we know of the disks. (HoM Illyana didn't even appear to know what Limbo was, instead of visiting there every time she teleported.)

When I first saw her in HoM standing with her team in mid-air I thought damn it here they go again making crazy with the use of a characters powers. Then I thought about it and theorised that conceiveably her stepping disk could could be kept open as a portal. Feet on the ground in limbo and the rest out up in the air on Earth.

I actually thought it was quite a creative use of her teleporting abilities.

I used to think that the stepping disks were just circles of light that appeared below peoples feet. But after her initial appearences in the original New Mutants they used to appear mid way through peoples calfs, bodies blah blah. So then I wondered if it effectively moved from the under the persons feet up the body. I remember an issue where Super Sabre shoved Blob out of a stepping disk he had noticed opened below the Blobs feet. And another where Illyana is about to be grabbed and effectively drops through a stepping disk out of reach.

Right.... I have clearly thought about that too much.....

[yanapryde]

When I first saw her in HoM standing with her team in mid-air I thought damn it here they go again making crazy with the use of a characters powers. Then I thought about it and theorised that conceiveably her stepping disk could could be kept open as a portal. Feet on the ground in limbo and the rest out up in the air on Earth.

I actually thought it was quite a creative use of her teleporting abilities.

I used to think that the stepping disks were just circles of light that appeared below peoples feet. But after her initial appearences in the original New Mutants they used to appear mid way through peoples calfs, bodies blah blah. So then I wondered if it effectively moved from the under the persons feet up the body. I remember an issue where Super Sabre shoved Blob out of a stepping disk he had noticed opened below the Blobs feet. And another where Illyana is about to be grabbed and effectively drops through a stepping disk out of reach.

Right.... I have clearly thought about that too much.....

Too much thinking? I disagree.
This is an excellent topic to discuss.
I too, had the same perceptions about her discs. Believing that she could open them and exist, essentially, in 2 places at once (Limbo and Earth)
I always viewed her stepping discs as small port-holes. She's used them similiarly to her HOM counterpart, during the Fall of the Mutants storyline, on the island where Doug was murdered.
She opened a disc in front of her, acting like a shield in a way, allowing for the array of bullets to pass through it, rather than her. She also opened a disc in the path of a lunging enemy, sending him head first into the wall directly behind her.
Both of which are two of my favorite (creative) uses of her mutant talents.

[244]

Here's my question about the stepping disks/light circles: normally people's mutant powers would manifest at the age of puberty but what's up with the light circles in Magik LS #2 when eight year old Illyana was being chased by S'ym? She hasn't reach puberty yet and since the Limbo version of Kitty Pryde stated that the light circles are part of Limbo although Illyana can produce her own when she reached puberty.

[4sake]

http://comics.ign.com/articles/102/1024695p1.html

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=286612

[NielsVanEekelen]

Here's my question about the stepping disks/light circles: normally people's mutant powers would manifest at the age of puberty but what's up with the light circles in Magik LS #2 when eight year old Illyana was being chased by S'ym? She hasn't reach puberty yet and since the Limbo version of Kitty Pryde stated that the light circles are part of Limbo although Illyana can produce her own when she reached puberty.

I've always thought that the stepping disks were a natural feature of Limbo, and Illyana doesn't so much create them as summon and direct them. The uncontrolled disks seem confined to Limbo itself, though. (Belasco probably used magic to manipulate Illyana's mutant potential to bring her to him in the first place.)

http://comics.ign.com/articles/102/1024695p1.html

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=286612

Sweet! Alan Davis-drawn Illyana, that brings back memories.:smile:

Still happy about every appearance (and about the fact that her Fraction describes her as Queen of Limbo, since her post-Infernus appearances have been very quiet on that), but I hope she's not simply going to be the X-Men's transport from now on. Also, the timetravelling complications of her long-distance teleports have been solved apparently, yes?

[Twisted Bliss]

I've always thought that the stepping disks were a natural feature of Limbo, and Illyana doesn't so much create them as summon and direct them. The uncontrolled disks seem confined to Limbo itself, though. (Belasco probably used magic to manipulate Illyana's mutant potential to bring her to him in the first place.)

Yeah that was my understanding too. Illyana had some natural affinity with Limbo due to her mutant ability to control its stepping disks. So although she hadn't reached puberty and couldn't technically control them in a stressful situation it triggered her power so she could call one, just not control where the hell she ended up. (Pun not intended)

Sweet! Alan Davis-drawn Illyana, that brings back memories.:smile:

Still happy about every appearance (and about the fact that her Fraction describes her as Queen of Limbo, since her post-Infernus appearances have been very quiet on that), but I hope she's not simply going to be the X-Men's transport from now on. Also, the timetravelling complications of her long-distance teleports have been solved apparently, yes?

Hey if Pixie can teleport via a spell. Without changing the spell to compensate for the differing locations and lacks the ability via her mutant powers to direct where the exit point is. Yet we're supposed to accept Pixie can direct it to the exact same location as Illyana who can scan earth & limbo mentally/magically to obtain an exact exit location. Then I'm glad they aren't questioning Illyana's long distance teleport.

Sorry..... another of my reasons to hate Pixie. (So glad Illyana told her to shut up. Although I'd rather see her stab Pixie through the fanny with her soulsword and save us all the continued annoyance of Pixie's existence)

[Twisted Bliss]

Hmmm..... if Illyana was to swing her soulsword at Pixie's Pink teleportation fuzz field would it presumably kill Pixie ? Maybe have half of Pixie's body teleport killing her instantly?

Well maybe not too instantly...slowly bleeding out....Ahhhhh sweet sweet fantasy.

[Loki]

I've always thought that the stepping disks were a natural feature of Limbo, and Illyana doesn't so much create them as summon and direct them. The uncontrolled disks seem confined to Limbo itself, though. (Belasco probably used magic to manipulate Illyana's mutant potential to bring her to him in the first place.)


That seemed to be the case to begin with, but then we got to see Illyana in other realities where she'd never been to limbo, and she still used stepping discs. Which means she generates the discs, not limbo. And AoA Illyana established that she has a natural affinity to teleportational time travel. As for why the discs were present in limbo even before her mutant powers emerged, the answer lies partially in the last sentence (if she can time travel, then discs can appear in times earlier than when she became able to create them) and partially in limbo's own unusual non-linear temporal situation.

[NielsVanEekelen]

That seemed to be the case to begin with, but then we got to see Illyana in other realities where she'd never been to limbo, and she still used stepping discs. Which means she generates the discs, not limbo. And AoA Illyana established that she has a natural affinity to teleportational time travel. As for why the discs were present in limbo even before her mutant powers emerged, the answer lies partially in the last sentence (if she can time travel, then discs can appear in times earlier than when she became able to create them) and partially in limbo's own unusual non-linear temporal situation.

There's also the theory that without Belasco's interference and her magical training, Illyana's powers would have developed differently, so that she would have popped through Limbo as rapidly as Nightcrawler teleports through his sulphur-smelling dimension whenever he teleports. That would work with both the pre-existence of the stepping disks and the Limbo-less 'Yanas of other dimensions.

[yanapryde]

There's also the theory that without Belasco's interference and her magical training, Illyana's powers would have developed differently, so that she would have popped through Limbo as rapidly as Nightcrawler teleports through his sulphur-smelling dimension whenever he teleports. That would work with both the pre-existence of the stepping disks and the Limbo-less 'Yanas of other dimensions.

Yes. That was my perception regarding her mutant talents, and being closely related to Nightcrawler's instantaneous 'ports as well.
I'm still curious about who her character would have been had she not been abducted, and whether I would still enjoy her.
I very likely would, though.

[244]

My thoughts of the Dark Reign X-men preview: Pixie still has a gruge against Illyana for what she did to her, so why is Pixie acting chummy towards her?

Hmmm..... if Illyana was to swing her soulsword at Pixie's Pink teleportation fuzz field would it presumably kill Pixie ? Maybe have half of Pixie's body teleport killing her instantly?

Well maybe not too instantly...slowly bleeding out....Ahhhhh sweet sweet fantasy.

I think Darkchilde corrupting Pixie is enough because it's worst than death which would torture that person the thought that he/she feels empty and polluted inside just like how Illyana went through.

I kind of don't care about Pixie but I actually like her when I read the Quest for Magik story arc. I know there are some posters who hate Pixie and I respect their opinion but I honestly don't see anything wrong with her so I wonder what's up with all the hate towards her.

[chemicalx]

I kind of don't care about Pixie but I actually like her when I read the Quest for Magik story arc. I know there are some posters who hate Pixie and I respect their opinion but I honestly don't see anything wrong with her so I wonder what's up with all the hate towards her.

for me it just seems like the writers are doing everything they can to make us like her. It seemed like over night she was in every x-book and getting all the spotlight. I just never saw the appeal. I dont really hate her but if i had to choose my teleporter of choice it would be Illyana... I wish the would have made it clear that Illyana teleports people through limbo and pixie is instant though... small i know

[244]

for me it just seems like the writers are doing everything they can to make us like her. It seemed like over night she was in every x-book and getting all the spotlight. I just never saw the appeal. I dont really hate her but if i had to choose my teleporter of choice it would be Illyana... I wish the would have made it clear that Illyana teleports people through limbo and pixie is instant though... small i know

Fair enough.

I liked Pixie better when she was in New X-men but I think Fraction isn't doing that great of a job handling her character-wise which making me dislike her character a bit.

[4sake]

for me it just seems like the writers are doing everything they can to make us like her. It seemed like over night she was in every x-book and getting all the spotlight. I just never saw the appeal. I dont really hate her but if i had to choose my teleporter of choice it would be Illyana... I wish the would have made it clear that Illyana teleports people through limbo and pixie is instant though... small i know

I agree except I actually hate pixie :evilsmile: (an I really don't hate that many characters)

Fair enough.

I liked Pixie better when she was in New X-men but I think Fraction isn't doing that great of a job handling her character-wise which making me dislike her character a bit.

I disliked her then (back in NM vol2/NXA/NX), but Fraction/land/marvel have made me take it from dislike to hate. :evilsmile:

[244]

Yes. That was my perception regarding her mutant talents, and being closely related to Nightcrawler's instantaneous 'ports as well.
I'm still curious about who her character would have been had she not been abducted, and whether I would still enjoy her.
I very likely would, though.

Illyana would have been in Academy X or joining the New X-men team if she wasn't kidnapped and I would really love her to be in New X-men as the teleporter of the team if she never had been killed off by the legacy virus.

[4sake]

Yes. That was my perception regarding her mutant talents, and being closely related to Nightcrawler's instantaneous 'ports as well.
I'm still curious about who her character would have been had she not been abducted, and whether I would still enjoy her.
I very likely would, though.


I think she would Join Generation X & would have became BFF with Jubilee, M & Husk or she just would have been whatever book Piotr was in at the time or join New X-Men.

[4sake]

Magik (& Peter) related...

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=287084&page=2

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=287084

[Tori Pagac]

Ooh, I loved "Kulan Gath Takes Manhattan," and I loved the Exiles return to it! And particularly Illyana's role in both, but that goes without saying.

Exiles #55-57, or trade paperback vol.9: Bump in the Night.

Edit: This specific page would be from #55.

THANK YOU gaps in the yana collection must be slain

[Tori Pagac]

Fair enough.

I liked Pixie better when she was in New X-men but I think Fraction isn't doing that great of a job handling her character-wise which making me dislike her character a bit.
yeah i like pixie before she was turned into magik 3 that said magik is still much coller in new mutants the new series then poor little pixie could ever be

[NielsVanEekelen]

THANK YOU gaps in the yana collection must be slain

:smile: Whenever I finish my obsessively complete Yana appearances list, I'll be sure to post it here to aide all in that noble task.

[NielsVanEekelen]

You know, if there's one thing watching Smallville taught me, it was to hate Lana Lang.

But I never thought even she would go so low as to steal the glorious scene that introduced us to Illyana and her big steely brother for her own purposes. You doubt me? Look at this:

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/2875/ripoffo.jpg

From Superman: Secret Origins #1. Or rather, Superman: Stolen Origin!

[sunofdarkchild]

Have you guys seen the solicitation for X-Men Forever 13?! Or the cover?!

Now we find out just what it was that Claremont intended for Illyana.

[NielsVanEekelen]

Have you guys seen the solicitation for X-Men Forever 13?! Or the cover?!

Now we find out just what it was that Claremont intended for Illyana.

Oh yesss, we have seens it, our preciousss.

That arc runs from #11 to #14, plus now there's wild rumors about a New Mutants Forever (I'm skeptical, but a fan can dream)...

[MAGIE]

Tribute to Illyana Rasputin alias Magik :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJZ5WR1CnQ4

[Jess C.H.]

Tribute to Illyana Rasputin alias Magik :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJZ5WR1CnQ4

Cool tribute.

[MAGIE]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3016/650359-ill.jpg

[NielsVanEekelen]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3016/650359-ill.jpg

I count thirteen different artists in there. Who can name them all? :smile:

[Tori Pagac]

Oh yesss, we have seens it, our preciousss.

That arc runs from #11 to #14, plus now there's wild rumors about a New Mutants Forever (I'm skeptical, but a fan can dream)...

aw man another trade im gonna have to get

[4sake]

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/BLOODMONEY_2006/NEW_MUTANTS_9.jpg

NEW MUTANTS #9
Written by ZEB WELLS
Penciled by PAUL DAVIDSON
Cover by ADAM KUBERT
What is Illyana Rasputin up to? In NEW MUTANTS #1, she returned from who knows where with knowledge that she says is from the future. A future where things aren’t going well for the X-Men. Emma Frost is not going to settle for this question being unanswered.
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

[yanapryde]

THANK YOU 4SAKE!!!
I was just about to post this. Its gorgeous! Can't wait for 2010!!!:smile:

[MartinRedmond]

THANK YOU 4SAKE!!!
I was just about to post this. Its gorgeous! Can't wait for 2010!!!:smile:

What are you going to do until then?:]

[4sake]

THANK YOU 4SAKE!!!
I was just about to post this. Its gorgeous! Can't wait for 2010!!!:smile:

No prob... :cool:

[The Black Guardian]

Yes! Kick all of their miserable little buttocks, Yana! They deserve it.

[jarrod]

In the Jubilee thread I suggested a friendship spark between Jubes and Yana. What do all you Satanists think of that?

[The Black Guardian]

Seems fundamentally wrong to me.

But I cannot stand Jubilee. It may be my bias talking.

[yanapryde]

In the Jubilee thread I suggested a friendship spark between Jubes and Yana. What do all you Satanists think of that?

Having some kind of connection with SOMEONE would be nice.
I don't know about Jubilee though.
I would like for them to meet though, given Jubilee's brief past with her as a dying child.
I wonder if it would be similar to her confrontation with Monet when she confronted her about being a bitch, dispite Jubilee's well intentioned apple-giving-gestures when she was stuck in the Penance form.:smile:

[NielsVanEekelen]

In the Jubilee thread I suggested a friendship spark between Jubes and Yana. What do all you Satanists think of that?

I like both characters, but I don't really see what their friendship would be based on. Don't know if they're the right fit.

And if Jubes badmouthed Kitty again, 'Yana would just have to beat her up.:tongue:

[yanapryde]

After having read the solicits for the January issue, for the 45th time, I am now hopeful that Emma tries to HELP Illyana address these future concerns.
Although a bitch-fest between my two favorite misunderstood blondes would also be a wonderful thing to witness. :smile:

[yanapryde]

QUOTE OF THE DAY:

(in response to accusations that Magik was jealous of the New X-Men kids)

" Cats aren't jealous of mice, they just like to play with them." -TheLuckyOne

[Leirus]

I like both characters, but I don't really see what their friendship would be based on. Don't know if they're the right fit.

And if Jubes badmouthed Kitty again, 'Yana would just have to beat her up.:tongue:


Nops, It would be perfect, Yana died on Jube´s arms the first time around... It would be really awkward !! And maybe would give us one of the rares "Soft Yana" moments...

[yanapryde]

Nops, It would be perfect, Yana died on Jube´s arms the first time around... It would be really awkward !! And maybe would give us one of the rares "Soft Yana" moments...

Illyana probably doesn't remember it.
"It" being Jubilee.

[Leirus]

Illyana probably doesn't remember it.
"It" being Jubilee.

Even then, It would let us know from which point in time comes Illyana... Although if Belasco recreated her from Limbo, maybe the deaged time does not count for her at all... hmm !

[SayOcean]

I like both characters, but I don't really see what their friendship would be based on. Don't know if they're the right fit.

And if Jubes badmouthed Kitty again, 'Yana would just have to beat her up.:tongue:yeah but kitty let her die.....and Yana and Jubilee i could see as real trouble makers in the xmen....it should be a min about jubilee and yana going out on the town instead eve goth pixie being whiny and mopey about her soul

[yanapryde]

Even then, It would let us know from which point in time comes Illyana... Although if Belasco recreated her from Limbo, maybe the deaged time does not count for her at all... hmm !

It likely doesn't.

[Havok83]

Even then, It would let us know from which point in time comes Illyana... Although if Belasco recreated her from Limbo, maybe the deaged time does not count for her at all... hmm !
I think the Illyana thats around now is made from when she was last seen in limbo way back in Inferno. I dont think the child that lived on has anything to do with her so she'd most likely wouldnt have those memories or connection

[244]

I'm sure some people may know already but Illyana has made a cameo in X-force #20 with the Stepford Cuckoos. I've always wanted to see how she would look like drawn by Mike Choi and colored by Sonia Oback.

[MuhollandDriver]

Anyone read Doctor Voodoo #2? Our girl has a brief cameo in it. i am sensing a future story might involve her! Rawr.

[NielsVanEekelen]

Anyone read Doctor Voodoo #2? Our girl has a brief cameo in it. i am sensing a future story might involve her! Rawr.

She is? Sweet! Interviews suggested that she'd pop up somewhere along the line, so I looked through the first issue, but haven't seen #2 yet. Does she put this upstart Sorcerer Supreme in his place? :tongue:

[yanapryde]

Anyone read Doctor Voodoo #2? Our girl has a brief cameo in it. i am sensing a future story might involve her! Rawr.

How brief is brief?
How CAMEO is CAMEO??
'SPLAIN!

[Peter F.]

How brief is brief?
How CAMEO is CAMEO??
'SPLAIN!

Voodoo and Daimon Hellstrom were in this kind of nexus and were looking in on the many different regions Hell. They had mirrors which let them view different high level demons Satan, Blackheart, Mephisto, etc... They were trying to determine if it was Daimon's father who had brought hell to Earth in New Orleans.

One panel had two Voodoo looking in on two mirrors, one with Ghost Rider and another with Magik.

[Havok83]

Any chance we'll get some Magik/Colossus stuff in the near future. I hate how little they've interacted since she came back from the dead. Also where is Mikhail. Last time I remember seeing him was back during The Twelve

[244]

Any chance we'll get some Magik/Colossus stuff in the near future. I hate how little they've interacted since she came back from the dead. Also where is Mikhail. Last time I remember seeing him was back during The Twelve

It's already been posted in this thread but I'll post it for you:


Originally Posted by yanapryde
Kiel Phegley: justinkos91 had some questions about the most well-known Russians in Marvel lore: "Recently, Illyana Rasputin is back from the dead, and her and Colossus were reunited again at the end of that issue, but after that, both are on a separate path again; Illyana joining the New Mutants and Colossus appearing in ‘Uncanny X-Men.’ Illyana is the only family Piotr has nowadays, with his parents and brother being gone. Will we see him and Illyana interact a bit more?

Joe Quesada: Justinkos91, most times we’ve seen the two in the same room, Illyana has pretty much run away. So she’s not crazy about spending a lot of time with Piotr. He’ll obviously want to change that, but it’s not really up to him. There will be some more interaction between the two in “Utopia” and in “Necrosha” and a few other places. After that, just wait for some big things on the horizon.

[yanapryde]

Voodoo and Daimon Hellstrom were in this kind of nexus and were looking in on the many different regions Hell. They had mirrors which let them view different high level demons Satan, Blackheart, Mephisto, etc... They were trying to determine if it was Daimon's father who had brought hell to Earth in New Orleans.

One panel had two Voodoo looking in on two mirrors, one with Ghost Rider and another with Magik.

many thanks!
anyone have a scan or know of where to look at this image?
aside from the issue?

[Havok83]

It's already been posted in this thread but I'll post it for you:


Originally Posted by yanapryde
Kiel Phegley: justinkos91 had some questions about the most well-known Russians in Marvel lore: "Recently, Illyana Rasputin is back from the dead, and her and Colossus were reunited again at the end of that issue, but after that, both are on a separate path again; Illyana joining the New Mutants and Colossus appearing in ‘Uncanny X-Men.’ Illyana is the only family Piotr has nowadays, with his parents and brother being gone. Will we see him and Illyana interact a bit more?

Joe Quesada: Justinkos91, most times we’ve seen the two in the same room, Illyana has pretty much run away. So she’s not crazy about spending a lot of time with Piotr. He’ll obviously want to change that, but it’s not really up to him. There will be some more interaction between the two in “Utopia” and in “Necrosha” and a few other places. After that, just wait for some big things on the horizon.
Thanks. I really dont remember much of anything from Utopia. Hopefully Necrosha will be more satisfying

[yanapryde]

Thanks. I really dont remember much of anything from Utopia. Hopefully Necrosha will be more satisfying

I'm hopeful that, in the January issue of New Mutants, when Emma Frost confronts Illyana about her time-jumping-shenanigans, maybe we'll get a defensive older brother moment scolding Emma for her suspicions. That would be a fun way to incoporate Piotr into the mix and have a good character moment between he and Yana.
Or maybe some of the rest of her team will seek out Pete for some guidance on how to attend to Illyana.:smile:

[Havok83]

I'm hopeful that, in the January issue of New Mutants, when Emma Frost confronts Illyana about her time-jumping-shenanigans, maybe we'll get a defensive older brother moment scolding Emma for her suspicions. That would be a fun way to incoporate Piotr into the mix and have a good character moment between he and Yana.
Or maybe some of the rest of her team will seek out Pete for some guidance on how to attend to Illyana.:smile:
Piotr and Illyana need a mini together. I feel thats the only way we are going to get some much needed quality time between them

[Jess C.H.]

I'm hopeful that, in the January issue of New Mutants, when Emma Frost confronts Illyana about her time-jumping-shenanigans, maybe we'll get a defensive older brother moment scolding Emma for her suspicions. That would be a fun way to incoporate Piotr into the mix and have a good character moment between he and Yana.
Or maybe some of the rest of her team will seek out Pete for some guidance on how to attend to Illyana.:smile:

Seconded! Any Yana/Piotr brother/sister moments whether it be in New Mutants or any other book will be a welcome respite from the wallpaperism thats been taking place in UXM.:evilangry: The lack of interaction since Infernus has me a bit baffled. I'll even settle for them going and taking charge of the Winter Guard.:wink:

[yanapryde]

Piotr and Illyana need a mini together. I feel thats the only way we are going to get some much needed quality time between them

Oh yes, certainly.
I would love a mini with these two. Even if it were just a back up story in Uncanny, at the end of each issue. Whatever, that'd be fine with me. Just to get some ACTUAL interaction between them. I mean, how does Peter feel about her jumping right into Super Hero mode with her teammates, after all she has been through?

[NielsVanEekelen]

Piotr and Illyana need a mini together. I feel thats the only way we are going to get some much needed quality time between them

DIBS!

I mean...

Theoretically, should Marvel be interested in doing such a thing and then need someone to, I dunno, write it...:redface:

[NielsVanEekelen]

Hm, high time for some more art on this thread.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9195/chrisgiarrusso2byaarogo.jpg

MiniMarvels are the best Marvels! (Found on DeviantArt.) (I hold a terrible grudge against Superhero Squad for killing the MiniMarvels.)

[Havok83]

NOBODY can do bangs quite like Illyana. I hate it when artists screw it up and draw her without them when its her signature look. It keeps her from being a generic blonde like so many of the other X-chicks

[Jess C.H.]

Hm, high time for some more art on this thread.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9195/chrisgiarrusso2byaarogo.jpg

MiniMarvels are the best Marvels! (Found on DeviantArt.) (I hold a terrible grudge against Superhero Squad for killing the MiniMarvels.)

Which reminds me, I've been meaning to make my own contribution in that regard to show my apreciation for Yannaprydes kind words about my Piotr drawing....Sketch soon to follow.

[yanapryde]

NOBODY can do bangs quite like Illyana. I hate it when artists screw it up and draw her without them when its her signature look. It keeps her from being a generic blonde like so many of the other X-chicks

She prefected the look.
All other razor-edged-bang-sporting X-chickies are just copying.
And copying is the highest form of flattery.:smile:

[NielsVanEekelen]

Which reminds me, I've been meaning to make my own contribution in that regard to show my apreciation for Yannaprydes kind words about my Piotr drawing....Sketch soon to follow.

Excellent! I look forward to it. :biggrin:

[Havok83]

Did anyone else think Husk was trying to be Illyana when she attempted to rock the blonde bang look?

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9886/uxm403.png

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5294/uxm403a.png

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3221/uxm413a.png

[yanapryde]

Did anyone else think Husk was trying to be Illyana when she attempted to rock the blonde bang look?

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9886/uxm403.png



Oooh boy when I saw this image back when, during that Uncanny(?) storyline I nearly lost it because I thought it WAS Illyana and I was like....WAIT-WHA-HUH?

But yea. Her look is classic and shouldn't be copied.

[SayOcean]

no husk was wearing a tie

[Havok83]

Oooh boy when I saw this image back when, during that Uncanny(?) storyline I nearly lost it because I thought it WAS Illyana and I was like....WAIT-WHA-HUH?

But yea. Her look is classic and shouldn't be copied.
I couldnt beleive they gave her Illyana's classic bangs either. Thats HER signature feature. No blonde within the X-men should get to copy that

[4sake]

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.10271.Nation_X~colon~_Birth_of_a_Nati on

[NielsVanEekelen]

Did anyone else think Husk was trying to be Illyana when she attempted to rock the blonde bang look?

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5294/uxm403a.png

Well, Sam probably did send some team pictures home during Paige's formative years--as a matter of fact, Illyana was with the team when they visited the Guthries (Rom Annual #3). And what self-respecting kid doesn't try to copy the coolest person they know? Probably thought she needed a little extra when she got to join the X-Men.

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.10271.Nation_X~colon~_Birth_of_a_Nati on

What's that story say? It only tells me to log in, although I am already logged. :frown:

[4sake]

What's that story say? It only tells me to log in, although I am already logged. :frown:
NATION X, a four-part limited series beginning this December 9, explores Utopia's amazing architects: the X-Men themselves. Each issue of the series features solo stories spotlighting your favorite mutants as they, in the words of writer Scott Snyder, "struggle to come to terms with Utopia as a home."

"I think he's a guy at a bit of a cross-roads," says Snyder of Colossus, the focus of his NATION X #1 story. "He's not young; he isn't some wide-eyed kid who's going to be optimistic about establishing a mutant nation. On the other hand, he's taken a lot of hits and he's still standing-the guy came back from the dead, after all-so there has to be some small part of him that's at least a little bit of a believer in rebirth, right? He's a statesman, but he's dealing with a lot of internal issues, too.

"[There's] this moment [in the story] when he reminisces about being back on the collective in Siberia. Piotr's remembering a time before the X-Men, before even Colossus, and it just felt like that's him, that's the guy beneath the steel."


http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/BLOODMONEY_2006/pi.jpg

[NielsVanEekelen]

NATION X, a four-part limited series beginning this December 9, explores Utopia's amazing architects: the X-Men themselves. Each issue of the series features solo stories spotlighting your favorite mutants as they, in the words of writer Scott Snyder, "struggle to come to terms with Utopia as a home."

"I think he's a guy at a bit of a cross-roads," says Snyder of Colossus, the focus of his NATION X #1 story. "He's not young; he isn't some wide-eyed kid who's going to be optimistic about establishing a mutant nation. On the other hand, he's taken a lot of hits and he's still standing-the guy came back from the dead, after all-so there has to be some small part of him that's at least a little bit of a believer in rebirth, right? He's a statesman, but he's dealing with a lot of internal issues, too.

"[There's] this moment [in the story] when he reminisces about being back on the collective in Siberia. Piotr's remembering a time before the X-Men, before even Colossus, and it just felt like that's him, that's the guy beneath the steel."


http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/BLOODMONEY_2006/pi.jpg

Thanks!:biggrin:

Hm, 'Yana is teleporting Piotr to the New mutants? That must be either to invite him to join the team or to bring him in on the team secret plan to go get Kitty out of that bullet.

[244]

NATION X, a four-part limited series beginning this December 9, explores Utopia's amazing architects: the X-Men themselves. Each issue of the series features solo stories spotlighting your favorite mutants as they, in the words of writer Scott Snyder, "struggle to come to terms with Utopia as a home."

"I think he's a guy at a bit of a cross-roads," says Snyder of Colossus, the focus of his NATION X #1 story. "He's not young; he isn't some wide-eyed kid who's going to be optimistic about establishing a mutant nation. On the other hand, he's taken a lot of hits and he's still standing-the guy came back from the dead, after all-so there has to be some small part of him that's at least a little bit of a believer in rebirth, right? He's a statesman, but he's dealing with a lot of internal issues, too.

"[There's] this moment [in the story] when he reminisces about being back on the collective in Siberia. Piotr's remembering a time before the X-Men, before even Colossus, and it just felt like that's him, that's the guy beneath the steel."


http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/BLOODMONEY_2006/pi.jpg

I have one question: where's Dani?

On the side note, I kind of don't like how the women are dressed in the bottom comic panel: Illyana looks okay at least but Amara looks more like a southern girl despite coming from a roman family back in Nova Roma and I don't see Xi'an wearing the outfit she has because she's supposed to be the most mature member of the NM team.

Alltogether, I can't say I'm too thrilled seeing the New Mutants in Nation X because I see it more like a cameo.

[yanapryde]

This is WAY exciting (for me)
I welcome any and all cameo appearances by the New Mutants and ESPECIALLY Illyana.
I'm curious to learn where they are. The solicit implies Russia, yes (?) but then there is that ...construct (?)...behind them that might be Utopia?
Maybe he got lonely for Russia and they decide to take him on a mini vacay? Probably not but I don't care either way so long as we finally get some Brother Sister time between these two Rasputins.
Also...it looks like Yana is wearing a jumpsuit or something, like a mechanic would wear, but only half way, with the top half tied round her waist. I dig it. Although I'm not in favor of her X bandana on her head. I'll wait to see it in color.:smile:

[244]

This is WAY exciting (for me)
I welcome any and all cameo appearances by the New Mutants and ESPECIALLY Illyana.
I'm curious to learn where they are. The solicit implies Russia, yes (?) but then there is that ...construct (?)...behind them that might be Utopia?
Maybe he got lonely for Russia and they decide to take him on a mini vacay? Probably not but I don't care either way so long as we finally get some Brother Sister time between these two Rasputins.
Also...it looks like Yana is wearing a jumpsuit or something, like a mechanic would wear, but only half way, with the top half tied round her waist. I dig it. Although I'm not in favor of her X bandana on her head. I'll wait to see it in color.:smile:

Well to be honest, I'm kind of excited seeing Illyana in Nation X and only her but I have some reservations for it that is how she'll be depicted in it. I think she looks cute with the bandana on her head (do you think it'll be pink because throughout her appearances, she likes wearing clothes with pink in it).

I agree that Illyana needs to spend some time with her massive big brother that way her human side will be anchored within herself. When I first read Colossus has a baby sister, I liked the idea of a gentle mutant who's so large would be protecting someone who's so small. They're an adorable family throughout the Marvel universe (as long as little snowflake doesn't slip to her demonic side).

By the way, I happened to come across your deviantart page and I have to say you're about ready to enter the comic book industry and I'll be looking forward seeing your work if you do make it.

[SayOcean]

why does Pete look so creepy in that one pic


and yeah what is up with Magmas daisy duke outfit?

[pryde15]

why does Pete look so creepy in that one pic


and yeah what is up with Magmas daisy duke outfit?

I think all of the girl's have particulary terrible outfits, but Amara's is a total WTF moment.

[Astonishing!]

What the hell's wrong with Colossus in that picture? :confused:

[4sake]

He very happy to see his lil sis...

[yanapryde]

By the way, I happened to come across your deviantart page and I have to say you're about ready to enter the comic book industry and I'll be looking forward seeing your work if you do make it.

Thank you very very much 244.:smile:

[244]

Thank you very very much 244.:smile:

Your very welcome.

As soon as I've learned and practice anatomy sketches, I'm planning on drawing an awesome Magik drawing and what I'm thinking of going with it is a dark and gritty feel and probably almost sketchy.

[Drey]

It's nice to see Illyana popping up in different titles. I also agree with 244 that it will be good to see her with Colossus. She needs as much human contact as possible, especially with Piotr. She's walking around with even less soul than she had before she died in Inferno. It's gotta be hard for both of them.

And speaking of Magik drawings, I just finally finished mine last night. I've been working on it off and on for a couple months. I've been so busy since school started up again and I went up to 40 hours a week at my job. Choosing the right colors for Illyana was hard lol. Hope you enjoy! :smile:

http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab90/factor82/magikcompcopy.jpg

[NielsVanEekelen]

It's nice to see Illyana popping up in different titles. I also agree with 244 that it will be good to see her with Colossus. She needs as much human contact as possible, especially with Piotr. She's walking around with even less soul than she had before she died in Inferno. It's gotta be hard for both of them.

And speaking of Magik drawings, I just finally finished mine last night. I've been working on it off and on for a couple months. I've been so busy since school started up again and I went up to 40 hours a week at my job. Choosing the right colors for Illyana was hard lol. Hope you enjoy! :smile:

http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab90/factor82/magikcompcopy.jpg

Go go fanart! Great, Drey!

[yanapryde]

She's lovely Drey.
Well done. Her face is very sultry. Nice job.

[Drey]

Thank you both for the compliments! :smile:

[yanapryde]

MAGIK NEWS!! WOOT!
The Lovely Ms.Rasputin will not only be cameo-ing in the FIRST issue of Nation X alongside her brother, as shown in the preview page many have been commenting on....

...She ALSO will be in the SECOND issue with a story invovling herself sending Anole into Limbo...for some reason or another!!! GO MAGIK LOVE!

January brings us a Magik-centric New Mutants story....as well as the cameo with her brother and February brings us MORE Magik! Exciting!!

[Peter F.]

...She ALSO will be in the SECOND issue with a story invovling herself sending Anole into Limbo...for some reason or another!!! GO MAGIK LOVE!

That's the third issue.

He probably tried to blame her for his arm again and she sent him away to shut him up.

[yanapryde]

That's the third issue.

He probably tried to blame her for his arm again and she sent him away to shut him up.

Oh right oops.
I forgot the 2nd issue is....the one with Jubilee and Northstar and Gambit?
Or is that the first one?
Well whatever.
One of them is about Wolvie and Nightcrawler, Iceman, Colossus and Magneto.
And the other is about Jubilee, Northstar, Gambit and No-Girl. Yes?>

[Peter F.]

Oh right oops.
I forgot the 2nd issue is....the one with Jubilee and Northstar and Gambit?
Or is that the first one?
Well whatever.
One of them is about Wolvie and Nightcrawler, Iceman, Colossus and Magneto.
And the other is about Jubilee, Northstar, Gambit and No-Girl. Yes?>

First issue is the one with Colossus et all. Which seems to be a lot crammed into one issue. Hopefully the stories aren't too rushed.

Second issue is the fabulous return of No Girl and Jubilee.

Third issue is Danger vs. Armor.

[Tori Pagac]

baah another book to add to the get in traade list darn magik making mee buy more then one xbook because as we all know new mutants name should be magik and the new mutsntd:biggrin:

[244]

MAGIK NEWS!! WOOT!
The Lovely Ms.Rasputin will not only be cameo-ing in the FIRST issue of Nation X alongside her brother, as shown in the preview page many have been commenting on....

...She ALSO will be in the SECOND issue with a story invovling herself sending Anole into Limbo...for some reason or another!!! GO MAGIK LOVE!

January brings us a Magik-centric New Mutants story....as well as the cameo with her brother and February brings us MORE Magik! Exciting!!

Magik sending Anole to Limbo? Her negative association with the New X-men would really make it worse. I can't blame the New X-men for despising Illyana and they have every right to be but I hope in the future they would see her for what she truly is as a human. Illyana has many wonderful qualities as a human being but negative ones as a demon.

[MuhollandDriver]

Hey all.

i made a thread about Bill Sienkiewicz.

It can be found in the Community Forum.

Come by and offer Your input.

Or she will slice off Your unmentionables and toss them in a stepping disc.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o279/anansi4/3805035821_33fdf656c0.jpg

[244]

Or she will slice off Your unmentionables and toss them in a stepping disc.


Except it won't work if you're not magic based so I'm safe (whew!)

[Drey]

Except it won't work if you're not magic based so I'm safe (whew!)

What if I have magical potential? Will it just slice thru me with no physical damage done, but cause immense pain?

[244]

What if I have magical potential? Will it just slice thru me with no physical damage done, but cause immense pain?

I didn't expected to get a response like this so I guess I'll geek out on you right now: I think it involves with magic users and anything mystical so I'm not sure if it counts with someone who has potential for sorcery but who knows? I'm not that much on an expert with all of the soulsword stuff so it's up to the writers to decide but it's already accepted that the soulsword is the extension of Magik's good soul piece. The best explanation of the soulsword can be found in Magik LS #4 (and I really really want for Illyana to have her normal life back purely as a mutant without all of the sorcery and darkside stuff and I know it shouldn't be soon enough).

[Drey]

I didn't expected to get a response like this so I guess I'll geek out on you right now:

Hehe, go for it.

I think it involves with magic users and anything mystical so I'm not sure if it counts with someone who has potential for sorcery but who knows? I'm not that much on an expert with all of the soulsword stuff so it's up to the writers to decide but it's already accepted that the soulsword is the extension of Magik's good soul piece. The best explanation of the soulsword can be found in Magik LS #4 (and I really really want for Illyana to have her normal life back purely as a mutant without all of the sorcery and darkside stuff and I know it shouldn't be soon enough).

I think that's a nice thing to hope for, but personally I prefer Magik to have that little bit of darkness to her, like she was before she died. Right now she's more dark than light, but I can deal with it because she's being written well. However, I do want her to get her beatrice medallion back though so she can be complete...well, as complete as she can be anyway.

[Havok83]

The X-men have WAY too many group teleporters around. I liked it back when that was Magik's unique specialty.

[244]

Right now she's more dark than light, but I can deal with it because she's being written well. However, I do want her to get her beatrice medallion back though so she can be complete...well, as complete as she can be anyway.

Yeah. I'm impressed with Wells' depiction of Magik and it's good to know I'm not the only one who noticed she has become darker than ever.

As for the Beatrice medallion, here's a hopin' for the second part of X-infernus in the new New Mutants for next year and I hope it happens after the "Second Coming" arc tied with the New Mutants.

[SayOcean]

The X-men have WAY too many group teleporters around. I liked it back when that was Magik's unique specialty.sides nightcrawler and lila cheney?

[NielsVanEekelen]

Right now she's more dark than light, but I can deal with it because she's being written well.

Is she? I think we still have too little insight in her current character to say. It's all baout her intentions, and I think she may very well be acting cold and manipulative because she knows something terrible is going to happen (to her friends) and is trying to move the pieces in the right positions so that they can yet save the day.

Not to say she isn't dark, of course, but a lot of it is still open to interpretation.

[yanapryde]

Is she? I think we still have too little insight in her current character to say. It's all baout her intentions, and I think she may very well be acting cold and manipulative because she knows something terrible is going to happen (to her friends) and is trying to move the pieces in the right positions so that they can yet save the day.

Not to say she isn't dark, of course, but a lot of it is still open to interpretation.

My hope is that her distant and calculating demeanor is just her way of separating herself in order to accomplish whatever is necessary to avoid a disastrous future. She's got a mission. She's focused. On track mind. I hope.
Go Go Good Intentions!

[Havok83]

sides nightcrawler and lila cheney?
Nightcrawler isnt generally a group teleporter. He can go short distances and only a few people that he must touch. Thats much different than Magik who can go long distances and can port anyone within her sphere. Lila Cheney was never an X-man and never hung around them. The only time I can recall her ever doing anything with them was the Shi'ar arc back in UXM 275 but Illyana was gone by that time anyway. Besides her way of teleporting was highly impractical. Nowadays besides Illyana, theres Vanisher, Cloak, Ariel, and Pixie, unless IM forgettng anyone

[Home made ectoplasm]

saw these amazing Bill Sienkiewicz Magik pics on Flickr and I thought I would share them here

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22931994@N05/2211755500/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22931994@N05/2210963233/

[Jess C.H.]

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae25/jessechurter/scan0020-3-1.jpghttp://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae25/jessechurter/scan0003-2-4-2.jpg

[sunofdarkchild]

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.10549.new_mutants~colon~_illyana~apos ~s_magik

1 month.... 1 month.

Keep away from the pics to avoid unnecesary (and un-Illyana related) spoilers. Just read the article.

[RiptideX]

Some illyana moment that i love!


http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/illy6.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/illy1.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/illy5.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/illy2.jpg

[RiptideX]

Also i'm a big Illyana fan so whatever scan recent or antique you wish to have just ask and I will post it!

more:

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/illy3.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/illy4.jpg

[Drey]

Beautiful scans. Thanks!

[NielsVanEekelen]

I just love that last panel of Illyana dancing with Empath. :biggrin:

Rick Leonardi does great Magik.

[4sake]

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae25/jessechurter/scan0020-3-1.jpghttp://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae25/jessechurter/scan0003-2-4-2.jpg

Looks great... :cool:

[kk1]

Some illyana moment that i love!


http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/illy2.jpg

Where's this from? Looks like Davis' style.

[RiptideX]

Yes it's him! New mutants Annual 3

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/NMANN3.jpg

[RiptideX]

I hope tomorrow Illyana gets to use her http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/armill.jpg it's been a while since last I saw it!

[yanapryde]

I hope tomorrow Illyana gets to use her http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/armill.jpg it's been a while since last I saw it!

TRUTH!!! Illyana has yet to be seen donning her signature eldritch armor.
I'm wondering if she will, or ...if after Inferno.... the nature of her armor has been eliminated. Its existence was never truly explained, and I suppose if a writer didn't want to use it any more, could easily argue it no longer exists, post resurrection.

[NielsVanEekelen]

TRUTH!!! Illyana has yet to be seen donning her signature eldritch armor.
I'm wondering if she will, or ...if after Inferno.... the nature of her armor has been eliminated. Its existence was never truly explained, and I suppose if a writer didn't want to use it any more, could easily argue it no longer exists, post resurrection.

Remember that it fell off her in #1. Maybe it's just at the demon blacksmith, getting its dents knocked out.

[Anon_me]

Where's this from? Looks like Davis' style.

It was an annual, I think. The Impossible Man showed up and go into a madcap brouhaha with Warlock all over the world.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Why are there so many illyana thread all of a sudden?

[RiptideX]

She is a star and we love her!:smile: :smile: :smile:

[Pixie_Solanas]

Little Snowflake needs to tart it up. She bores right now.

[jeansbff]

Little Snowflake needs to tart it up. She bores right now.

I don't know much about illyana but i would like to see her wearing a more feminine costume and it wouldn't hurt to add in a pair of stilletoes....

[RiptideX]

Little Snowflake needs to tart it up. She bores right now.

:eek: Wow agent do you really find her boring ?!? What about the others then? I mean right now she and Danielle seems to be the only rediming characters in new mutants! What would you suggest to make her better?:smile:

Please lets savor her again I find her delicious:

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/nm1.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/nm2.jpg

[Pixie_Solanas]

I like where that is going - but they need to amplify her bitch quotient.

[RiptideX]

Got it!


http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/nm3.jpg


http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/nm4.jpg

[The Big G]

Im joining the MAGIK club. Anywho who tries to steal Pixie's soul if A OK in my book :biggrin:

[Pixie_Solanas]

She can't even get a good haircut and she wants Pixie's soul? Nyet.

[NielsVanEekelen]

...wouldn't hurt to add in a pair of stilletoes....

You saw me in the other thread and are just trolling me, aren't you?:evilangry:

Practical shoes! It should be in the superhero handbook!

[jeansbff]

You saw me in the other thread and are just trolling me, aren't you?:evilangry:

Practical shoes! It should be in the superhero handbook!

I'm sorry i have never seen you on the boards before.

[NielsVanEekelen]

I'm sorry i have never seen you on the boards before.

Nah, I didn't really think you were trolling, but I was literally just posting about how I hate stilettos on superhero costumes, and then you suggested the most awesome superhero of all gets some. :eek:

[MartinRedmond]

Illyana's used to being in charge, setting things in motion, it's different from bitchcraft which is more backstabby. I'd like to see her steal the leadership from under Sam Guthrie. Not that I'll read it, of course!

[Drey]

Im joining the MAGIK club. Anywho who tries to steal Pixie's soul if A OK in my book :biggrin:

Welcome! :smile:

One thing that I didn't like in the earlier issues of this current New Mutants book is how Illyana's power signature for her soul sword was pink. It should be white or a white/blue, which I think they've been slowly getting to.

Pink power signatures get old when everyone has it.

[244]

Welcome! :smile:

One thing that I didn't like in the earlier issues of this current New Mutants book is how Illyana's power signature for her soul sword was pink. It should be white or a white/blue, which I think they've been slowly getting to.

Pink power signatures get old when everyone has it.

I'm not sure about the soulswords' first appearance in Uncanny X-men because I sort of forgot it's color but for it's proper first appearance in Magik LS #4 from the 80's, the power signature was pink, although I'm sort of torn between the blue or the pink. I think it should be white instead because to me, the blue flames sort of make it look evil. It should be like a glow mist instead since the soulsword was supposed to be a piece of Illyana's good soul.

[RiptideX]

Pick your favourite soulsword!

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/soulsw.jpg

[yanapryde]

Pick your favourite soulsword!



Far left....3rd panel down......tank-Warlock in the background and bikin clad Yana in the foreground sporting the Arthur Adams' rendering of the soulsword.
Definitely my favorite. Shimmering in white eldritch flames and all sparkly.

[RiptideX]

ops maybe i should have put numbers on them ... brb gonna correct the picture:wink: !

[RiptideX]

here it is with numbers!

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/soulsw2.jpg

[yanapryde]

Now that you've numbered each of the swords...
13

[Peter F.]

Number 0. Pixie's Soul Dagger is the best.

[RiptideX]

Then why not go and enjoy your very popular pixie appreciation thread?!? I'm sure there is lot of interesting stuff going on over there!:evilsmile:

[Peter F.]

Then why not go and enjoy your very popular pixie appreciation thread?!? I'm sure there is lot of interesting stuff going on over there!:evilsmile:

Not quite yet. But once her miniseries starts up next month I'm sure there will be.

[RiptideX]

Indeed! can't wait for the sales number to be published and the issue is not out yet!:evilsmile:

[Peter F.]

Indeed! can't wait for the sales number to be published and the issue is not out yet!:evilsmile:

I'm sure sales will be respectable. Megan doesn't have Illyana 2.0 bringing her down anymore like in X-Infernus.

I wonder what will happen to sales of New Mutants once they finally stop with the crossovers.

[yanapryde]

Desist reading my post, should you not wish to be spoiled of Illyana's developments in the latest issue of New Mutants!!!




Ooooh Illyana. A mystery wrapped in an enigma.
At last we are given answers. Clarity.
This IS Illyana Rasputin. Her mind and her body, recreated by Belasco, sans her soul.
She sacrificed herself so that the younger, innoncent version of herself could live, free of Belasco's influence and corruption, only to be recreated, years later, unaware of the tragedy that befell the younger counterpart (via the legacy virus) she left behind. My oh my. Illyana IS complicated.

Issue 9, for obvious reasons, was a personal favorite of mine. Having two fierce, hard as nails, X-blondes interact like this, however brief, is a fantastic way to kick off comics for me in 2010.
I love Yana's self awareness. She should not exist. She is incomplete. She is darkness and hurt given form.
And yet, she does have some sliver of her humanity amidst her unfortunate existence. She does feel, as illustrated in the first arc, showing concern for Marci's safety. Though one can't help but wonder, to what degree are these moments more selfishly driven? She returned to this point in time, joining her fellow X-Men, in order to prevent catstrophic events. But to what end? In order to save the X-Men, or merely prolong their lives for some other purpose?

And how will this mysterious military group be involved?:eek:

[RiptideX]

Wow! thank you, thank you so much YanaPryde, I was crossing my fingers for an outcome like this, the 2.0 stuff was worrying me!:smile:

[yanapryde]

Wow! thank you, thank you so much YanaPryde, I was crossing my fingers for an outcome like this, the 2.0 stuff was worrying me!:smile:

Agreed. That 2.0 comment Warlock made really confused some readers. I hope this issue finally resolves that confusion.

[sunofdarkchild]

Desist reading my post, should you not wish to be spoiled of Illyana's developments in the latest issue of New Mutants!!!




Ooooh Illyana. A mystery wrapped in an enigma.
At last we are given answers. Clarity.
This IS Illyana Rasputin. Her mind and her body, recreated by Belasco, sans her soul.
She sacrificed herself so that the younger, innoncent version of herself could live, free of Belasco's influence and corruption, only to be recreated, years later, unaware of the tragedy that befell the younger counterpart (via the legacy virus) she left behind. My oh my. Illyana IS complicated.

Issue 9, for obvious reasons, was a personal favorite of mine. Having two fierce, hard as nails, X-blondes interact like this, however brief, is a fantastic way to kick off comics for me in 2010.
I love Yana's self awareness. She should not exist. She is incomplete. She is darkness and hurt given form.
And yet, she does have some sliver of her humanity amidst her unfortunate existence. She does feel, as illustrated in the first arc, showing concern for Marci's safety. Though one can't help but wonder, to what degree are these moments more selfishly driven? She returned to this point in time, joining her fellow X-Men, in order to prevent catstrophic events. But to what end? In order to save the X-Men, or merely prolong their lives for some other purpose?

And how will this mysterious military group be involved?:eek:

Amazing interpretation of the character. Illyana alone is reason enough to get New Mutants even if one were to not care about any other character.

I haven't picked up the issue yet, but it sounds like even though we get many answers as to what Illyana is and is doing, she is still very much a mystery. Which is as it should be.

[244]

I've just received my copy of New Mutants #9 and I can tell you what happened so expect to hear some spoilers so be warned: (highlight to view them)





Illyana left after the X-infernus storyline to search for her soul by traveling to multiple timelines. One of them was Legion slaughtering the X-men but Emma Frost killed him. Illyana needed to defeat him first to keep her teamates alive for her future plans (which happened in the first arc of the new New Mutants). The other was she found a reincarnated Witchfire but killed her, except it was too late, Witchfire had lead some travelers to the bloodstones which resulted the release of the Elder Gods, so she had to travel back in time to stop it.

Illyana had traveled many years to search for her soul but when it said "many", I get the feeling she may have aged around the same age as her teamates except Zeb Wells said from his interview she's a bit older than the one from X-infernus so I think she's no older than seventeen years old.

Anyone who wants to know Warlocks comment about Illyana being a "V2.0" in his own words, yanapryde had hit the nail on the head; Illyana has been resurrected just as Darkchilde so she's just an empty shell. Basically she's Darkchilde assuming the body of the human Illyana.

I was a bit surprised Emma empathized with the New X-men's disliked for Illyana and it's quite understandable.

[RiptideX]

I can't wait to read the comic in a few hours, it would be really cool if the storyline of illyana's quest for her own soul was just beginning!:smile:

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I can't wait to read the comic in a few hours, it would be really cool if the storyline of illyana's quest for her own soul was just beginning!:smile:

My spirits were crushed ever since I read the announcement of the Second Coming arc so I really hope it happens after that.

[NielsVanEekelen]

I like to think of the Soulsword as a semi-living thing that is constantly shifting in appearance. :smile:

But if I have to choose, I'm with Yanapryde. Can't go wrong with Art Adams. :biggrin:



And guys, let's not derail the thread by bitching about each others' characters and/or sales, okay?

[NielsVanEekelen]

My spirits were crushed ever since I read the announcement of the Second Coming arc so I really hope it happens after that.

:eek:
Hope was born with Illyana's missing soul! Second Coming is about her taking it back!

[yanapryde]

:eek:
Hope was born with Illyana's missing soul! Second Coming is about her taking it back!

Oh Em Gee
THAT would be som SH**!!

[RiptideX]

I did not like all the dead people!


http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/illygstep1-1.jpg

[sunofdarkchild]

A comment on the review forum for New Mutants 9 made me realize, they've effectively retconned the Truth or Death version of Inferno. Yay! Looks like all the terrible explanations for Limbo-related things from the 90s (like the soul sword stuff) are being fixed with Illyana's reincarnation.

[RiptideX]

OMG I'M SO EXCITED! more here (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24391) X-POSITION: Zeb Wells

2) Will we see more of what Magik does when she goes to Limbo? Any chance of seeing her power levels manifesting or explained? In the original series, she only did simple spells (e.g. levitation, astral projection, illusion casting) while on earth. Is there any new development to this? And is her power level the same or has it increased?

EXCLUSIVE: Stegron causes problems in "New Mutants" #10

Illyana has definitely become more in tune with her magical side, and the second year will largely be about exploring her world and what it means for the rest of the team. She's definitely learned some new tricks...

[jeansbff]

From reading the last few pages illyana seems to be quite an interesting character.

[Havok83]

From reading the last few pages illyana seems to be quite an interesting character.
thats bc she is!

[jeansbff]

thats bc she is!

So the illyana in new mutants isn't really illyana but darkchylde...

[Havok83]

So the illyana in new mutants isn't really illyana but darkchylde...
They are the same person. Darkchylde is another name for her. Its the codename that Belasco used for her in Limbo

[jeansbff]

I know they are the same entity but i thought that they were seperated now...

[Havok83]

I know they are the same entity but i thought that they were seperated now...
Theres nothing to seperate bc its one being. Its not like Jean and the Phoenix Force. Darkchylde was just another name for Illyana more specifically, symbolizing her corrupt nature due to the influence of Limbo

[Swashbuckler]

I know they are the same entity but i thought that they were seperated now...

It's like you and your twin sister. You were born joined at the head, they chopped you apart and split the brain, so you're two people, but you make up one whole person.

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Theres nothing to seperate bc its one being. Its not like Jean and the Phoenix Force. Darkchylde was just another name for Illyana more specifically, symbolizing her corrupt nature due to the influence of Limbo

Except Illyana was separated from her Darkchilde self in Special Edition, #36, and #50 of the new Mutants classics.

[chromatic]

hi! Just posting to show my love for Illyana...

<3

[yanapryde]

hi! Just posting to show my love for Illyana...

<3

WELCOME CHROMATIC!
Illyana's thread hasn't been up and running lately, so its great to hear/read some support for her!

[chromatic]

yeah...it took me a while to find it...but i KNEW one had to exist for her!

[NielsVanEekelen]

Welcome!

I think this thread has really suffered for me and Yanapryde discussing other stuff in emails and taking the Illyana stuff along. :tongue:

Quickly! Art post!

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1391/bit59.jpg - http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/5593/justicec.jpg

[SunfireX]

I loved what she looked like in Asgard

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/earthxmenstayedasgard5.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/55549/1043093-asgard___illyana_versus_storm_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29735/689156-magik11_super.jpg

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One question I have about Illyana in X-force #20: why was she wearing Jim Lee's version of the New Mutants style uniform when she already has her own the X-factor classic style one?

[franckd]

I loved Magik so much during CC/bill sienkiewicz 's New Mutant run.
She was one of my fav. Then Simonson wasted her. Deaging her was so... :mad: Then Lobdell killed her.:evilangry:

Heroes die and return all the time... And Quesada joked about Jean Grey being like Kenny from South Park. The joke is on him. Mr "Dead means dead". Almost all x-men are Kennys now...

Anyway, enough for the rant. Just happy she's back. I hope she will stay for good this time.

[Havok83]

One question I have about Illyana in X-force #20: why was she wearing Jim Lee's version of the New Mutants style uniform when she already has her own the X-factor classic style one?
Bc that one got dirty and was in the launndry?

[TETO/memo1989]

well i am happy that there's a thread juz 4 magiK!!!:smile:
i Heart MagiK!!!!:wink:

[Aerith]

Aw Magik, my favorite character ever!

I'm excited for her in these upcoming months. She's said to be quite important in Second Coming, and she even gets to grace Uncanny covers along with her brother and the other core X-Men. =] I hope us Magik fans are enough support to keep her around after the arc is over, though. How familiar/popular is she with X-readers who aren't acquainted with the old New Mutunts series? Anyone know?

[NielsVanEekelen]

Aw Magik, my favorite character ever!

I'm excited for her in these upcoming months. She's said to be quite important in Second Coming, and she even gets to grace Uncanny covers along with her brother and the other core X-Men. =] I hope us Magik fans are enough support to keep her around after the arc is over, though. How familiar/popular is she with X-readers who aren't acquainted with the old New Mutunts series? Anyone know?

Well, she's been getting quite a few cameos in other books lately. That could just mean that creators like her enough to include her, or it could be a deliberate move to develop her into a mainstay X-character in the minds of readers.

She should certainly still be around after Second Coming--Zeb Wells has already indicated that she'll be important in upcoming New Mutants storylines.

[RiptideX]

from Doctor Voodoo #4 :

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/docvoo1.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/doctorvoo2.jpg

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from Doctor Voodoo #4 :

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/docvoo1.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/doctorvoo2.jpg

Is Illyana only there as a cameo or is she part of the story?

[RiptideX]

I have yet to read the story as a whole but so far those 4 pages are the only ones where she makes a significant appearance!:smile:

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I have yet to read the story as a whole but so far those 4 pages are the only ones where she makes a significant appearance!:smile:

Thanks anyway. Magik on the above image doesn't look as menacing than she looked from New Mutants when drawn by Neves. He definitely made her look evil and menacing.

[NielsVanEekelen]

Is Illyana only there as a cameo or is she part of the story?

Illyana is one of many characters under the control of Nightmare in this issue. That means she really isn't herself, but she does appear on a few more pages in the issue. (And will probably be back next month!)

[yanapryde]

I found that artists rendering of Illyana to be really nice.

Am I peeved that Nightmare is controlling her?
Sure.
But on the plus side, he's controlling nearly every supernatural-based hero in the Marvel U... so I'm over it pretty quickly and happy again to have her cameo-ing in a different title outside the X-line!

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Illyana is one of many characters under the control of Nightmare in this issue. That means she really isn't herself, but she does appear on a few more pages in the issue. (And will probably be back next month!)

But shouldn't Nightmare's control have no affect on her because of her psionic demon mind shield?

[sunofdarkchild]

But shouldn't Nightmare's control have no affect on her because of her psionic demon mind shield?

Agreed.

Can anyone explain the nature of Nightmare's ability to control beings with supernatural powers, or why Illyana looks like she was taken out of the Claremont days?

[RiptideX]

Ok I'm going to read the story and report back later!:smile:

[RiptideX]

Upon entering our dimension Nightmare was able to warp all reality:

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/nighill.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af33/RiptideX/nighill2.jpg

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Upon entering our dimension Nightmare was able to warp all reality:

So in other words, Illyana from Doctor Voodoo #4 isn't the current Illyana who was recently resurrected from X-infernus?

[RiptideX]

It's a warped Illyana ..... try to think along the lines of what happend during the kulan gath saga!

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It's a warped Illyana ..... try to think along the lines of what happend during the kulan gath saga!

You know speaking of which, I was sort of thinking it being similar from the House of M storyline. I hope Illyana's appearance doesn't conflict with the current New Mutants series.

[RiptideX]

I think we can expect the whole world going back to his "normal self" once Jericho defeats Nightmare!

[sunofdarkchild]

http://marvel.com/images/658759./from/onsale.2010-05-05

Not surprised by what it reveals about New Mutants 12. Hope this plays a larger part in Second Coming than it seems like from the solicitation.

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Why won't Magik's eyes turn into a crimson red anymore when she's physically human with Darkchilde's mind? The only times I've seen it is from Magik Limited Series #2-#3, an Uncanny X-men issue after she programmed the Danger Room to appear an image of Belasco, her appearance in Powerpack, and probably others I haven't looked yet. If only colorists bother to color her eyes red when she goes evil, it'll give us readers a clearer representation to which mind she is on now; her own mind, or her evil alter-egos'? Speaking about evil alter-egos in comics, I sometimes feel Illyana takes after Jean Grey: both women who are strong willed and struggle to contain the evil within themselves and want a brighter future in life, although Illyana is more innocent than Jean as a human.

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Magik makes another appearance in "Brother Voodoo #5" except she was killed (for the sixth time if you count the alternative universes as well).

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/55549/1140360-001_super.jpg

[ohsnapulon5000]

the more and more I read about this character the more I enjoy her!
all hail the ILL NANA!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ill%20na%20na

[SayOcean]

hmmm i might have to pick up this brother voodoo thing