Illyana "Magik" Rasputin Appreciation

[Havok83]

Anyone else notice the distinct lack of Illyana in anything AVX related so far?
Im not surprised. I said that she should be the first person taken out bc she is one of the most powerful members on the team and technically she can get rid of most the Avengers in an instant, effectively putting an end to the fighting before it even truly begins. I wonder what reason they will come up with to get rid of her this time. Please no more Limbo banishment

[sunofdarkchild]

KIERON GILLEN! YES! :smile:

That's good to know. Although that seems to be saying that she'll be a focus of a tie in issue rather than the main event, far be it from me to complain about having that tie in issue be in Uncanny.

[Darkchylde]

Anyone have a chance to check out today's release of New Mutants yet? (No, Illyana isn't in it.) I thought I'd call everyone's attention to Warlock's mention that Blink's threshold for teleporting seems to be limited to Earth's atmosphere.

Not terribly big news or anything, but given some posters' observations of Blink's creative use of power last issue, it might be comforting to know that, as a long-range teleporter, Illyana is apparently still tops.

[MuhollandDriver]

Anyone read today's Uncanny issue? Illyana had a great scene. At first, I thought she teleported him to someplace awful, and the actual destination was surprising and sweet. It reminded me of the Claremont days!

[Havok83]

I loved how Illyana was written in the issue and thought she had a great moment. The writers really need to start having her interact with people besides Piotr though. When they broke up in pairs, I wish they hadnt gone the obvious route by sticking them together.

[yanapryde]

Anyone have a chance to check out today's release of New Mutants yet? (No, Illyana isn't in it.) I thought I'd call everyone's attention to Warlock's mention that Blink's threshold for teleporting seems to be limited to Earth's atmosphere.

Not terribly big news or anything, but given some posters' observations of Blink's creative use of power last issue, it might be comforting to know that, as a long-range teleporter, Illyana is apparently still tops.
Brilliant!!
Also, curious if Aaron will be using Blink in whatever capacity (school bus?) he had intended for Illyana, had she been claimed for the Institute rather than Utopia.

Anyone read today's Uncanny issue? Illyana had a great scene. At first, I thought she teleported him to someplace awful, and the actual destination was surprising and sweet. It reminded me of the Claremont days!

Uncanny was great! I might have belched up some vomit (just a little) when Illyana was biting her nail and grinning about her success with the civilian rescue, but.... with all of Greg Land's work, I imagine most everyone's faces completely different than what I'm looking at. I prefer Illyana's (presumably sinister?) grins a bit more subtle, and a bit less Teen Vogue.

Sharing her insight with Piotr was a welcome change from "Oh No, don't Jugg out!" It was good to see, in dialogue, WHY Illyana SHOULD be paired with her brother. I mean, we can all certainly infer and come to the conclusions on our own, SURE, but its nice to have Gillen adeptly address it IN character within the confines of the story, and in a believable way.

I also enjoyed the subtle (?) way its being made evident that people are noticing the creepiness of their relationship (particularly on Piotr's end of things) when Cyclops took pause, after Piotr's immediate CLAIM over his sister's company. ha ha ha


I loved how Illyana was written in the issue and thought she had a great moment. The writers really need to start having her interact with people besides Piotr though. When they broke up in pairs, I wish they hadnt gone the obvious route by sticking them together.
In a perfect world, we'd have gotten 1-on-1 time with each of them.
Storm would have expressed her concern over Illyana's recent actions and her hope that rehabilitation is in her immediate future.
Magneto, perhaps, would have applauded her bravado for the action she'd taken previously, while warning her of where it can lead.
Hope, would possibly inquire as to why she took said action and whether she felt it was worth it, and whether she can trust her.
Psylocke--- I'm drawing a blank. I honestly don't know what they would talk about. Ressurection? New bodies? Who/what am I?
Danger and Magik might exchange jabs at each others' roles amongst the X-Men...?
Cyclops? Oh....possibly some "I'm glad to see we don't have to bomb-harness you anymore." And Magik: "Me too"

[sunofdarkchild]

Even IGN said that Land ruined Illyana's moments.

Does he have to use the smae expressions as the people he's tracing?

[yanapryde]

Even IGN said that Land ruined Illyana's moments.

Does he have to use the smae expressions as the people he's tracing?

Right?? She's not a hair tossing, crest whitening strips model for crying out loud.

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Sharing her insight with Piotr was a welcome change from "Oh No, don't Jugg out!" It was good to see, in dialogue, WHY Illyana SHOULD be paired with her brother. I mean, we can all certainly infer and come to the conclusions on our own, SURE, but its nice to have Gillen adeptly address it IN character within the confines of the story, and in a believable way.

That part of the issue seem to remind me from the first issue of Magik: Storm and Illyana when Limbo Ororo was teaching six year old Illyana about the dark and light sides of human nature.

[sunofdarkchild]

I am now convinced that we are heading for a full on confrontation between Illyana and Colossus. He'll lose control and it will fall to her to put him down.

[yanapryde]

I am now convinced that we are heading for a full on confrontation between Illyana and Colossus. He'll lose control and it will fall to her to put him down.

No direspect to Pete, but better him than her.:tongue:

[Leirus]

Even IGN said that Land ruined Illyana's moments.

Does he have to use the smae expressions as the people he's tracing?

That he did. Cheerlader Illyana is not meant to be. *Cringes*

I just read the IGN review. Wow. How acute must be the art flaws when the reviewer was revolted by the exact same two points I fely utterly wrong while reading the issue.

[yanapryde]

Favorite "old school" Illyana Issue:
New Mutants 52--Magneto finally confronts Illyana on her behavior (ditching out of a Danger Room session) and impresses her when he sees her dark side and still offers his support, reminding her of his own shadowy past.

Favorite "modern" Illyana Issue:
New Mutants 8 --Emma interrogates Illyana about her behavior, and her recent activities since her return.

Anyone else? :smile:

[MuhollandDriver]

Old School? Where to start. I loved it when she would taunt/troll Bobby and Rahne. I loved it when Illyana forced the devil's paint (makeup) on Rahne in the Slumber Party issue!

Slicing the demon bear in half with her soulsword was also grand.

The issue with Emma Frost was great. Emma started out with the advantage, and the tables were quickly turned.

I loved the moment in Second Coming when Pixie asks about the smileyface soldier from The Right.

"He's happy to see you, Meggan." or something. Poor Pixie has a foil for life in Illyana.

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I am now convinced that we are heading for a full on confrontation between Illyana and Colossus. He'll lose control and it will fall to her to put him down.

I hope that won't be the case, because if she does put him down, she'll have nobody to turn to anymore, and Kitty sees her as a demon wearing her ex best friend's skin.

[Darkchild]

I hope that won't be the case, because if she does put him down, she'll have nobody to turn to anymore, and Kitty sees her as a demon wearing her ex best friend's skin.

she does?:eek:
*sigh* doesn't Yana hang out with The New Mutants anymore?
(Not hang out as in appear in their title but more have a friend to share moments and care for each other and with whom she feels comfortable with etc)

[sunofdarkchild]

Old School? Where to start. I loved it when she would taunt/troll Bobby and Rahne. I loved it when Illyana forced the devil's paint (makeup) on Rahne in the Slumber Party issue!

Slicing the demon bear in half with her soulsword was also grand.

The issue with Emma Frost was great. Emma started out with the advantage, and the tables were quickly turned.

I loved the moment in Second Coming when Pixie asks about the smileyface soldier from The Right.

"He's happy to see you, Meggan." or something. Poor Pixie has a foil for life in Illyana.

Ack. A few of us hate the slumber party issue because of how out of character Illyana was. Think about it. Would someone who lived through the Magik ls be like that? Would the person who had said just a few issues earlier "They laugh so easily, while I've forgotten how to cry. I want to play, but don't know how to ask." be like that?

As for old school moments: her taking on Thor, Captain America, and Black Knight all at once

Her "you think you can beat me?" line to Magneto

Glaring Legion into submission.

[MuhollandDriver]

Ack. A few of us hate the slumber party issue because of how out of character Illyana was. Think about it. Would someone who lived through the Magik ls be like that? Would the person who had said just a few issues earlier "They laugh so easily, while I've forgotten how to cry. I want to play, but don't know how to ask." be like that?

As for old school moments: her taking on Thor, Captain America, and Black Knight all at once

Her "you think you can beat me?" line to Magneto

Glaring Legion into submission.

I'm sure there are many people who manage to have fun sometimes despite their tragedies. In fact, I know them.

Anyone is free to hate the issue, I don't. I think it was a fun display of her sometimes snippy humor. Illyana has been shown to have a fun streak.

I have noticed that, more than almost all other X-Characters, Illyana means different things to different readers. I think much of this has to do with her complex portrayal over the years. She's been a sweet kid sister, an anti-hero, a ruler of a mystic dimension, a child dying of the legacy virus, a manipulator, a traitor, a heroic world-saver, a quasi-villain, cold, secretive, humorous, loyal, a traitor, and so on and so on.

Storm is in a similar situation with her various roles.

There's a reason why many characters have one codename and a nickname or so, while Illyana gets Magik along with Darkchild, Darkchyde, Snowflake, White Devil, Illyana 2.0, Lightchild, Archimage, Black Magik, Red Flag....I think there are even more!

I've noticed that some readers, for whatever reason, attach themselves to certain aspects of her and consider that their canonical Illyana. I personally believe that she is all of the qualities mentioned above, and it serves her better when writers realize this. So far, I think Kieron Gillen does.

[sunofdarkchild]

There's having a good time, say with a level of taunting, and then there's the slumber party issue.

There was nothing between issue 14, when she said that she couldn't fit in with people her own age, and that issue that suggested that anything had changed at all. The New Mutants still distrusted her at best. Mirage admitted it. Sam tried to kill her. And Rahne outright hated her.

In the above context her having the idea for the slumber party makes no sense, and her giving Rahne a makeover makes no sense (she antagonizes people who don't like her, sure, but with words, not with lipstick).

Put this issue after the Beyonder arc and maybe I'd buy it, but not before things cooled own between her and the rest of the New Mutants.

Gillen's Illyana has never shown that particular personality trait. She doesn't care at all for fashion or parties from what we've seen.

[Darkchild]

I'm sure there are many people who manage to have fun sometimes despite their tragedies. In fact, I know them.

Anyone is free to hate the issue, I don't. I think it was a fun display of her sometimes snippy humor. Illyana has been shown to have a fun streak.

I have noticed that, more than almost all other X-Characters, Illyana means different things to different readers. I think much of this has to do with her complex portrayal over the years. She's been a sweet kid sister, an anti-hero, a ruler of a mystic dimension, a child dying of the legacy virus, a manipulator, a traitor, a heroic world-saver, a quasi-villain, cold, secretive, humorous, loyal, a traitor, and so on and so on.

Storm is in a similar situation with her various roles.

There's a reason why many characters have one codename and a nickname or so, while Illyana gets Magik along with Darkchild, Darkchyde, Snowflake, White Devil, Illyana 2.0, Lightchild, Archimage, Black Magik, Red Flag....I think there are even more!

I've noticed that some readers, for whatever reason, attach themselves to certain aspects of her and consider that their canonical Illyana. I personally believe that she is all of the qualities mentioned above, and it serves her better when writers realize this. So far, I think Kieron Gillen does.
Ah brilliant post!
I don't hate the Slumber Party issue either. I love the cover. It has this free, juvenile feel to it. Same applies to this one (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/16281/315180-2133-123674-1-x-men_super.jpg) as well.

Anyway i do agree with you that many people can relate to her and can see themselves in her place. I mean none of us have been abducted by a Demonic Lord and raised by him while we had our souls corrupted, nor we are mutants; but i think that all this is a metaphor for people that had to grow up instantly for various reasons and be more mature & responsible. I may be just talking nonsense though.:tongue:
Another aspect of her is that she is an outcast and rarely feels comfortable communicating with people (i can relate to this SO much, i'm like the most awkward person ever).
And now a few panels to accompany this mess of a post.:biggrin:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw8jwyoVJ91qa3jc7o1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId =AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1327266732&Signature=AFoX1aCRCshEXAP%2B87f867tV8%2Fk%3D

[sunofdarkchild]

To each his own, I guess. It would have made much more sense if everything Illyana did in that issue was done by Kitty instead, or with goading from Kitty.

Amara had no clue what was flying, and Illyana should have been in a similar state at that point, not the instigator of the whole thing.

[timeismoney]

Her and Mags was a cool moment he really cared for her and i think some of that came from not being able to save Anya.

[Havok83]

as far as classic Illyana moments, this was one of my favorites

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5167/80986184.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6777/83002982.jpg

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4246/88666327.jpg

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I mean none of us have been abducted by a Demonic Lord and raised by him while we had our souls corrupted, nor we are mutants; but i think that all this is a metaphor for people that had to grow up instantly for various reasons and be more mature & responsible. I may be just talking nonsense though.:tongue:

Nope. You hit the nail in the head regarding with metaphors.



Ack. A few of us hate the slumber party issue because of how out of character Illyana was. Think about it. Would someone who lived through the Magik ls be like that? Would the person who had said just a few issues earlier "They laugh so easily, while I've forgotten how to cry. I want to play, but don't know how to ask." be like that?

Also, there was this other part when Dani realized it was Illyana's birthday and asked why didn't Illyana told her so the New Mutants can celebrate it as well as for the party to cheer up Prof. X. Illyana demurely answered that she doesn't mind not having her birthday celebrated. Honestly, the poor girl needs to be happy again, and I would appreciate it if it was done in a believable manner.

[Raeden]

I have a theory about the sleep over issue. I haven't read it for ages, so there could be some gaping plot holes in my idea, but whatever.

Kitty saw that Illyana didn't fit in with the New Mutants, so she borrowed Kurt's image-whatever-the-hell-it-was and pretended to be Illyana and threw a sleepover in an attempt to get the NM to see that Illyana was just an ordinary girl.

Any examples of Illyana using her powers would be the real Illyana, or the real Illyana's doing.

[blackphoenix]

Favorite "old school" Illyana Issue:
New Mutants 52--Magneto finally confronts Illyana on her behavior (ditching out of a Danger Room session) and impresses her when he sees her dark side and still offers his support, reminding her of his own shadowy past.

Favorite "modern" Illyana Issue:
New Mutants 8 --Emma interrogates Illyana about her behavior, and her recent activities since her return.

Anyone else? :smile:

I tried doing this on the Jean Grey Appreciation Thread and got no love. :frown:

ANYWAY, There have been so many magik moments from Illyana over the years, it's hard to pick! if I had to narrow it down, I would say:

New Mutants Special Edition #1
This was my first introduction to the mainstream New Mutants after seeing them for the first time in What If The X-Men Had Stayed in Asgard?(which was partially based on this very issue!). I kinda fell in love with Magik with this issue, mostly due to Art Adams amazing art.

[sunofdarkchild]

I have a theory about the sleep over issue. I haven't read it for ages, so there could be some gaping plot holes in my idea, but whatever.

Kitty saw that Illyana didn't fit in with the New Mutants, so she borrowed Kurt's image-whatever-the-hell-it-was and pretended to be Illyana and threw a sleepover in an attempt to get the NM to see that Illyana was just an ordinary girl.

Any examples of Illyana using her powers would be the real Illyana, or the real Illyana's doing.

Nightcrawler had one of those back then?

Considering that Illyana used her soul sword and teleported when chasing Lockheed it doesn't seem very likely.

[MuhollandDriver]

That Asgard special was such a high-point in so many ways.

It also gave us this classy number...

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o279/anansi4/magik1.jpg

[Ingonyama]

So, I just read MAGIK #1-4 (hardcover trade, which I never expected they'd put out!), and it's just as good as I was hoping!

I always wondered what exactly happened to turn Illyana from the sweet, innocent Snowflake into the badass demon sorceress we all know and love today.

Thing is, I was always under the impression that she killed Belasco to win the throne of Limbo. Did that happen? if so, when? And if not, why does she go on about being absolute ruler of Limbo?

[sunofdarkchild]

So, I just read MAGIK #1-4 (hardcover trade, which I never expected they'd put out!), and it's just as good as I was hoping!

I always wondered what exactly happened to turn Illyana from the sweet, innocent Snowflake into the badass demon sorceress we all know and love today.

Thing is, I was always under the impression that she killed Belasco to win the throne of Limbo. Did that happen? if so, when? And if not, why does she go on about being absolute ruler of Limbo?

She severed Belasco's connection to Limbo when she beat him the first time, creating a power vacume that she filled until Inferno. That's why he lost his powers and demonic features while fighting her. The threat that Belasco would come for her again loomed over her her entire stint with the New Mutants. When Belasco reclaimed Limbo and brought her back to life in Quest for Magik she finally killed him, making herself the ruler again.

[Raeden]

Nightcrawler had one of those back then?

Considering that Illyana used her soul sword and teleported when chasing Lockheed it doesn't seem very likely.

He did indeed. He had one since he first joined the X-men.

And that's when Kitty and Illyana switched placed. True story.

[Ingonyama]

She severed Belasco's connection to Limbo when she beat him the first time, creating a power vacume that she filled until Inferno. That's why he lost his powers and demonic features while fighting her. The threat that Belasco would come for her again loomed over her her entire stint with the New Mutants. When Belasco reclaimed Limbo and brought her back to life in Quest for Magik she finally killed him, making herself the ruler again.

Thanks! :) I wasn't sure about that last part, since his demonic features were very much intact in his subsequent appearances.

[c.lei]

There's having a good time, say with a level of taunting, and then there's the slumber party issue.

There was nothing between issue 14, when she said that she couldn't fit in with people her own age, and that issue that suggested that anything had changed at all. The New Mutants still distrusted her at best. Mirage admitted it. Sam tried to kill her. And Rahne outright hated her.

In the above context her having the idea for the slumber party makes no sense, and her giving Rahne a makeover makes no sense (she antagonizes people who don't like her, sure, but with words, not with lipstick).

Put this issue after the Beyonder arc and maybe I'd buy it, but not before things cooled own between her and the rest of the New Mutants.

Gillen's Illyana has never shown that particular personality trait. She doesn't care at all for fashion or parties from what we've seen.

Wrong. Issues 18+ right before the slumber party issue. Those issues really changed /redefined the relationship between Illyana and the New Mutants.

[sunofdarkchild]

Wrong. Issues 18+ right before the slumber party issue. Those issues really changed /redefined the relationship between Illyana and the New Mutants.

The issue right before the slumber party Sam tried to kill her. Rahne continued to hate her up until she cured her and Sunspot of their light and dark powers several issues later. Sunspot never got over his fear of her. The last we saw of Dani beforehand she had said that Illyana frightened her as much as the demon bear. The closest we got to a reconcilliation was that Amara called Illyana a "comrade" once in issue 19.

[yanapryde]

The closest we got to a reconcilliation was that Amara called Illyana a "comrade" once in issue 19.

I always adored Amara's sense of honor and loyalty to those she fought alongside. Always made me smile.

I miss her.

I think that's one of the reasons I loved the old school New Mutants so much.
Each of them were somewhat alien to their own surroundings. Rahne and Sam couldn't handle computers, Amara was a woman outside her own time/culture, Illyana was certainly an outsider for obvious reasons. It was such a fun twist on teen angst and self discovery.

[yanapryde]

http://cdn.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_46646/subcat_118512/New%20Mutants%20No.%2052%201987CAF.jpg

[yanapryde]

Another awesome Rick Leonardi page, showing Illyana summon a demon to remove Warpath from the playing field! Awesome!

http://cdn.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_6114/subcat_47218/Leonardi%20-%20New%20Mutants%20n.38%20p.3.jpg

[sunofdarkchild]

I really prefer the art of issue 52. It's hard for me to b elieve it's the same person.

[yanapryde]

I really prefer the art of issue 52. It's hard for me to b elieve it's the same person.

It is remarkable what the right inker/colorist can accomplish.
Makin' me all nostalgic.

[sunofdarkchild]

It is remarkable what the right inker/colorist can accomplish.
Makin' me all nostalgic.

Every image in her room when she talked to Magneto was gold.

[yanapryde]

Every image in her room when she talked to Magneto was gold.

Right?? There was just SO much going on that issue that I absolutely loved.
The art is an obvious win.
The New Mutants facing off against the Marauders and LOSING (rightly so if you ask me, given their reputations) in the Danger Room exercise (I love me some good Danger Room exercises)
Illyana skipping out -- Classic!
And OF COURSE the subsequent intervention of sorts between her and Magneto. Brilliant stuff.

Illyana EVEN suggests Magneto FORCE obedience, stating that "without power you're always a victim" and he asks if that is what SHE wants.
Her reply? "You think you can beat me?" with her sly devilish grin.
Oh! Its too good!!!:evilsmile:

[SunfireX]

Right?? There was just SO much going on that issue that I absolutely loved.
The art is an obvious win.
The New Mutants facing off against the Marauders and LOSING (rightly so if you ask me, given their reputations) in the Danger Room exercise (I love me some good Danger Room exercises)
Illyana skipping out -- Classic!
And OF COURSE the subsequent intervention of sorts between her and Magneto. Brilliant stuff.

Illyana EVEN suggests Magneto FORCE obedience, stating that "without power you're always a victim" and he asks if that is what SHE wants.
Her reply? "You think you can beat me?" with her sly devilish grin.
Oh! Its too good!!!:evilsmile:

God, I loved that era of New Mutants and Illyana always stole the show.

[yanapryde]

Mag AND Mag!!! HuWha??
AWESOME!!!

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2012/01/uncx009-cover.jpg

[MuhollandDriver]

God, I loved that era of New Mutants and Illyana always stole the show.

She still does. Many thought she was the show-stealer in the Zeb Wells run.

Heck, she was the best part of the New Mutants Fear Itself arc, and she was only in two scenes! Her scenes in the Uncanny Fear Itself arc were also pretty brilliant.

Marvel must know this. How many other characters who aren't Captain America or Thor get a mini-series to mark their return?

[Ingonyama]

When did Illyana's Soulsword gain the ability to affect physical, non-magical matter? I thought it could only harm supernatural things? Or are those demons they're fighting?

[yanapryde]

When did Illyana's Soulsword gain the ability to affect physical, non-magical matter? I thought it could only harm supernatural things? Or are those demons they're fighting?

Possible answers:

1) Since having been resurrected, her sword may have taken on different properties (when she reclaimed it) with her being a soul-less recreation

2) Since having regained MOST of her soul, her sword may have taken on different properties, with the ABSENCE of dark magic occupying the negative spaces where her soul was previously missing from.

3) Could be demons.

Side note: Lookethesize of that thing!! That sword is HUGE!

[Ingonyama]

Thanks for the theories! :) I like #2 best, that she's getting stronger as she gets more human.

I kinda like that it's never draw the same way twice...like, whatever kind of sword Yana's imagining when she conjures it up is what she gets. Do wish it would be actually explained that way though.

[Silent Sigh]

Mag AND Mag!!! HuWha??
AWESOME!!!

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2012/01/uncx009-cover.jpg

I don't like the "new" Pacheco but Magik looks awesome there!!! :eek:

[Darkchild]

What is this from? Oh and yeah her sword is almost as long as Sephiroth's LOL:tongue:

[Ingonyama]

Inorite?

All we need is for her hair to go silver and for her to develop a taste for black leather and trenchcoats, and a whole new breed of fan will be reading the X-Books.

(for the record, played Final Fantasy VII TO DEATH as a teenager. Hate Sephiroth, but still love the story to this day.)

[Darkchild]

Inorite?

All we need is for her hair to go silver and for her to develop a taste for black leather and trenchcoats, and a whole new breed of fan will be reading the X-Books.

(for the record, played Final Fantasy VII TO DEATH as a teenager. Hate Sephiroth, but still love the story to this day.)

i love her hair as it is to be honest but i totally agree about the leather part!
since some of you posted favorite moments of old/classic Illyana i'll post a lil something too:
this is during the Spyder/Gosamyr storyline (one issue away from Inferno)
http://i40.tinypic.com/ehafdk.jpg

the despair in her eyes when she sees she can't turn back to human form
the spikes in her armor i suppose were somewhat of a punk fashion thing which was big back in the 80s:biggrin:

[MuhollandDriver]

Illyana has always been a little punk rock. Check out her civilian clothes throughout the Zeb Wells run!

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Mag AND Mag!!! HuWha??
AWESOME!!!

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2012/01/uncx009-cover.jpg

The way Magik is swinging her sword seems odd because if it's being swung to the left, her right hand is supposed to be on the top hilt and her left, on the bottom handle, not the other way around.

When she used the sword against the Sinister clones, there weren't any physical injuries and blood left from it so I got the idea maybe Illyana used it to stun them, like what happened to Karma and Pixie from Fall/Rise of the New Mutants, but the critters in this image shows otherwise.

[Thirteen]

When did Illyana's Soulsword gain the ability to affect physical, non-magical matter? I thought it could only harm supernatural things? Or are those demons they're fighting?

Either the rules of the sword have been changed from the classic "affects only mystical" or the writers have been taking liberties and making it more like "doesn't affect humans". When Illyana first returned to the New Mutants she was shown using the Soulsword to destroy Legion's personalities.
Though I suppose that could have worked astrally simply because she made the personalities believe the sword could kill them.


Also....Favorite CLASSIC Illyana moment...
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3016/156560-19866-illyana-rasputin_large.JPG (http://www.comicvine.com/19866-illyana-rasputin/105-156560/)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3016/156559-167154-illyana-rasputin_large.JPG (http://www.comicvine.com/167154-illyana-rasputin/105-156559/)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3016/156567-25178-illyana-rasputin_large.JPG (http://www.comicvine.com/25178-illyana-rasputin/105-156567/)

[sunofdarkchild]

When did Illyana's Soulsword gain the ability to affect physical, non-magical matter? I thought it could only harm supernatural things? Or are those demons they're fighting?

The sword started to affect physiacal things in the runnup to Inferno, when she began to lose control. It's affected physical things ever since.

There's a theory I've seen that the soul sword does whatever she wants it to. So it left non-magical things unaffected because she wanted it that way, and that when she began to lose control of herself and the sword she was unable to stop it from harming everything.

Now I guess she cares more about effectiveness than about not causing harm.

[c.lei]

The issue right before the slumber party Sam tried to kill her. Rahne continued to hate her up until she cured her and Sunspot of their light and dark powers several issues later. Sunspot never got over his fear of her. The last we saw of Dani beforehand she had said that Illyana frightened her as much as the demon bear. The closest we got to a reconcilliation was that Amara called Illyana a "comrade" once in issue 19.

Go back and read those issues again as they were actually written and stop pretending that what's presented in a couple of panels is actually telling the whole story like people like you for seem to do for some unknown reason.

[yanapryde]

When she used the sword against the Sinister clones, there weren't any physical injuries and blood left from it so I got the idea maybe Illyana used it to stun them, like what happened to Karma and Pixie from Fall/Rise of the New Mutants, but the critters in this image shows otherwise.
I recall one patricular panel where Illyana's soulsword was actually being pulled from one of the horses.
I stand by the "with more soul, her sword's properties have changed".


Also....Favorite CLASSIC Illyana moment...
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3016/156560-19866-illyana-rasputin_large.JPG (http://www.comicvine.com/19866-illyana-rasputin/105-156560/)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3016/156559-167154-illyana-rasputin_large.JPG (http://www.comicvine.com/167154-illyana-rasputin/105-156559/)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3016/156567-25178-illyana-rasputin_large.JPG (http://www.comicvine.com/25178-illyana-rasputin/105-156567/)
Oooh good one! Definitely a brilliant moment for Illyana.
Say what you will about the controversial personality shift (the slumber party issue and subsequent issues) but I'm a big fan of the flirty Illyana, and her stone cold glares that drove fear into her adversary (in this case, Manuel)

Go back and read those issues again as they were actually written and stop pretending that what's presented in a couple of panels is actually telling the whole story like people like you for seem to do for some unknown reason.
Classic c.lei.
Delightful as ever.

[sunofdarkchild]

Oooh good one! Definitely a brilliant moment for Illyana.
Say what you will about the controversial personality shift (the slumber party issue and subsequent issues) but I'm a big fan of the flirty Illyana, and her stone cold glares that drove fear into her adversary (in this case, Manuel)



I actually don't mind there. It's clearly very calculated, instead of a random whim. There's a saying about Batman. "When he's smiling, you are $@%$%." It can apply to many characters, including Illyana.

[yanapryde]

I actually don't mind there. It's clearly very calculated, instead of a random whim. There's a saying about Batman. "When he's smiling, you are $@%$%." It can apply to many characters, including Illyana.

Oooooh I LIKE that. :evilsmile:

Also, I was breezing through old X-issues from the 80's and I was blown away by the number of times I found Illyana, outside of the New Mutants books.
She really was the most prominent member and found herself among the "seniors"a lot. It makes her recent ascension all that much more appropriate.

[Havok83]

Another great Illyana moment.

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[yanapryde]

Well...that also settles the "telepathic intrusion argument" doesn't it?
Her psi blocks are daemonic.

If Illyana truly is more human than demon now, that would explain her psychic defenses being penetrated by the Sinister hive mind (well...THAT and it IS a Sinister Hive mind we're talking about. heh.)

[sunofdarkchild]

Oooooh I LIKE that. :evilsmile:

Also, I was breezing through old X-issues from the 80's and I was blown away by the number of times I found Illyana, outside of the New Mutants books.
She really was the most prominent member and found herself among the "seniors"a lot. It makes her recent ascension all that much more appropriate.

She was the only New Mutant sent when the X-Men fought the Dire Wraiths, was key to beating Kulan Gath, was present when the X-Men first fought the Mauraders, and summoned Colossus to help her fight Babi Yar in a pre-Inferno issue of Uncanny. I think that's what she did in a combat copacity with the X-Men (outside of the annuals where the entire New Mutants team fought alongside them.

In Avengers 299 there was one panel of Illyana having fully turned into the Darkchilde. "And surrounded by the battle, a terryfying figure of stell and brimstone says nothing. She merely asks no quarter, and gives none."

And there was that Rom annual where she saved him and was key to beating the super wraith.

I'm probably missing some things.

[sunofdarkchild]

Well...that also settles the "telepathic intrusion argument" doesn't it?
Her psi blocks are daemonic.

If Illyana truly is more human than demon now, that would explain her psychic defenses being penetrated by the Sinister hive mind (well...THAT and it IS a Sinister Hive mind we're talking about. heh.)

I'm not sure about that. Her being was split, and this half was relatively powerless and of a weaker psyche. And it seems to me that anything people didn't like about Illyana they classified as 'daemonic.'

[yanapryde]

I'm not sure about that. Her being was split, and this half was relatively powerless and of a weaker psyche. And it seems to me that anything people didn't like about Illyana they classified as 'daemonic.'

Well Fooie!
Personally, I like that explanation and it makes a lot of sense, with how she'd been altered by dark magic.
Less soul = more dark magic
More soul = less dark magic
Less soul = negative space filled with telepathy inhibiting dark energy/magic
More soul = easier, but not simple, navigation into psyche by trained telepaths

I'm running with this, for my own peace of mind. haha

[sunofdarkchild]

Well Fooie!
Personally, I like that explanation and it makes a lot of sense, with how she'd been altered by dark magic.
Less soul = more dark magic
More soul = less dark magic
Less soul = negative space filled with telepathy inhibiting dark energy/magic
More soul = easier, but not simple, navigation into psyche by trained telepaths

I'm running with this, for my own peace of mind. haha

You've got to then deal with the facts that back in the day the Bloodstones didn't take away any of Illyana's soul. They just made it evil. The only time she was missing any part of her soul (aside from the Enchantress incident) was the time Xavier had no trouble reading her mind, in the panels above. And then there's Pixie, who to my knowledge hasn't shown any resisitance to telepathy despite having had much of her soul taken away. Though I can't say for sure about Pixie, given that I don't kepp up with her like I do Illyana

[Ingonyama]

I don't see why the two are mutually exclusive.

More soul = more human = more like the Illyana in the Starjammers pages. This Yana got her soul back, but had to trade it away again to turn back into Magik.

EDIT: OR! that would explain why she felt hollow and 'empty' inside...because even though this was a human Illyana, it wasn't a whole Illyana. Magik feels like a complete person because she's got the dark magic filling in the void of her soul. Without that, and with the missing soul-pieces still in the Bloodstone, she's not 'complete.'

[yanapryde]

You've got to then deal with the facts that back in the day the Bloodstones didn't take away any of Illyana's soul. They just made it evil. The only time she was missing any part of her soul (aside from the Enchantress incident) was the time Xavier had no trouble reading her mind, in the panels above. And then there's Pixie, who to my knowledge hasn't shown any resisitance to telepathy despite having had much of her soul taken away. Though I can't say for sure about Pixie, given that I don't kepp up with her like I do Illyana

Wait. What? :eek:
Am I wrong in understanding the bloodstones? They were crafted FROM pieces of her soul, and the subsequent "space" left by each "extraction" was filled with dark magic....corrupting her.

I thought each stone was essentially, a fragment of her soul, given solid form.
Did I hallucinate all of that???

I can't recall anyone reading Pixie's mind post-dark-streaks-and-soul-spatula.

[Havok83]

Here's a followup to those scenes in the next issue

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[Havok83]

Wait. What? :eek:
Am I wrong in understanding the bloodstones? They were crafted FROM pieces of her soul, and the subsequent "space" left by each "extraction" was filled with dark magic....corrupting her.

I thought each stone was essentially, a fragment of her soul, given solid form.
Did I hallucinate all of that???

I can't recall anyone reading Pixie's mind post-dark-streaks-and-soul-spatula.

thats how I undestood it, especially as explained in X-Infernus

[sunofdarkchild]

Wait. What? :eek:
Am I wrong in understanding the bloodstones? They were crafted FROM pieces of her soul, and the subsequent "space" left by each "extraction" was filled with dark magic....corrupting her.

I thought each stone was essentially, a fragment of her soul, given solid form.
Did I hallucinate all of that???

I can't recall anyone reading Pixie's mind post-dark-streaks-and-soul-spatula.

That's what the bloodstones became during Quest for Magik and afterwards. Before her deaging they were just a measure of how corrupt her soul had become.

For instance, in the very first Magik issue Ororo enters Illyana's soul. She didn't find that a piece was missing, but it had been remade in Belasco's image.

A while ago I complained about how the bloodstones were turned into horcruxes. This is what I meant.

[sunofdarkchild]

I don't see why the two are mutually exclusive.

More soul = more human = more like the Illyana in the Starjammers pages. This Yana got her soul back, but had to trade it away again to turn back into Magik.

EDIT: OR! that would explain why she felt hollow and 'empty' inside...because even though this was a human Illyana, it wasn't a whole Illyana. Magik feels like a complete person because she's got the dark magic filling in the void of her soul. Without that, and with the missing soul-pieces still in the Bloodstone, she's not 'complete.'

I think your edit is much more accurate given how both Xavier and Illyana decribe her as being incomplete in that scene.

It's also possible that denying part of her soul causes her to feel empty, as if the part doesn't exist. I've wondered if that's why Illyana said in Hellbound that Pixie would get her soul back if she killed her. She wouldn't be getting her soul back; she'd be acknowledging the part of her soul she's denied.

And there's the question of Belasco's motivations. If, as in Quest for Magik, he wanted a "real" Illyana with her complete soul, removing that soul as he created the bloodstones does not make sense.

[Darkchylde]

The sword started to affect physiacal things in the runnup to Inferno, when she began to lose control. It's affected physical things ever since.

There's a theory I've seen that the soul sword does whatever she wants it to. So it left non-magical things unaffected because she wanted it that way, and that when she began to lose control of herself and the sword she was unable to stop it from harming everything.

Now I guess she cares more about effectiveness than about not causing harm.

I've always subscribed to this school of thought. To me, rather than concolute matters with all the talk of black magic, white magic, human/demon effects on the sword, it makes more sense that Illyana herself - whether consciously or not - always limited the Soulsword's damage to solely magickal constructs. Hell, waaaaay back in the original New Mutants, when the team was possessed by the Shadow King, Illyana struck down Cannonball by saying that if she concentrated hard enough, the sword could actually hurt, and kill, humans. Was she lying? Yeah.

Except what if she wasn't, and the sword really could harm non-mystical beings, but that Illyana, whether realizing it or not, chose not to use the sword that way. Just a thought.

[sunofdarkchild]

I remember that. The Shadow King had moved from Karma to someone else, and Illyana started threatening Storm, saying that as Farouk's favourite it was probably her he was possessing, and that her sword could kill people if she concentrated/ put all her power into it. Then she slashed Doug, and the Shadow King yelled out. He picked the weakest person that they wouldn't suspect and Illyana saw through it the whole time.

She really is a good tactitian. She takes gambles no one else in their right mind would think of, but she's good at the thinking part as well as the slashing part.

[yanapryde]

That's what the bloodstones became during Quest for Magik and afterwards. Before her deaging they were just a measure of how corrupt her soul had become.

For instance, in the very first Magik issue Ororo enters Illyana's soul. She didn't find that a piece was missing, but it had been remade in Belasco's image.

A while ago I complained about how the bloodstones were turned into horcruxes. This is what I meant.

Tonight's mission: Reread Magik's original miniseries.

Thanks sunofdarkchild.

[Darkchild]

Another great Illyana moment.

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i was reading this just today! love her rave and this skull/mask thing she rocked during that issue
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[yanapryde]

okay.
I reread Magik's miniseries.

1) I didn't see any "Storm walking/passing through (or whatever) Illyana's soul

2) Belasco (while performing the "first bloodstone" spell): "Thus I reshape this piece of Illyana's soul....completely. Irrevocably in my own image."

So....the bloodstones are KIND OF like horcruxes, but KIND OF not.
They're not objects that HOUSE her soul, but actually PIECES OF HER SOUL that have been shaped into a physical form.....the bloodstones.

so..... the bloodstones DO house pieces of her soul. And each gap left by Belasco was filled with dark magic, thereby corrupting Illyana, causing her to struggle with her dark nature throughout her formative years until her sacrifice in Inferno.

Nuff said.

[Thirteen]

So many favorite CLASSIC Illyana moments:
Nothing says BFF better than "I'll give up my soul to save yours from damnation in my stead"...
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29735/689157-magik12_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/magik12/105-689157/)


with regard to MODERN Magik moments....
LOVED this one during the Legion Returns saga...after the Legion personalities believe themselves safe from harm because Cannonball has given orders to Magik to treat Legion's psyche with kid gloves:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6799/884070-ilyana___sorry__not_paying_attention_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/ilyana___sorry__not_paying_attention/105-884070/)


and Land's art being a problem...this... WOW.
I've thought Land's art overly maligned for the plastic smile/traced expressions....UNTIL NOW.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/8/85218/2169436-true_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/true/105-2169436/)

[sunofdarkchild]

okay.
I reread Magik's miniseries.

1) I didn't see any "Storm walking/passing through (or whatever) Illyana's soul
2) Belasco (while performing the "first bloodstone" spell): "Thus I reshape this piece of Illyana's soul....completely. Irrevocably in my own image."

So....the bloodstones are KIND OF like horcruxes, but KIND OF not.
They're not objects that HOUSE her soul, but actually PIECES OF HER SOUL that have been shaped into a physical form.....the bloodstones.

so..... the bloodstones DO house pieces of her soul. And each gap left by Belasco was filled with dark magic, thereby corrupting Illyana, causing her to struggle with her dark nature throughout her formative years until her sacrifice in Inferno.

Nuff said.

So what was that whole scene in the first issue where Storm was walking through the white area, going "I had forgotten such beauty and joy existed" before reaching the corrupted core and battling Illyana's older self?

[sunofdarkchild]

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album_view.php?gid=3990&page=5


LAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

Voice echoes into space.

LAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

Laaaaannnnddd!!!!

I just picture him sitting at his desk, taunting us.

"I've done worse than kill you. I've hurt you. And I wish to go on, hurting you."

Edit: I just realized how to change the size of my typing here to express my Shatner-level displeasure.

[244]

So what was that whole scene in the first issue where Storm was walking through the white area, going "I had forgotten such beauty and joy existed" before reaching the corrupted core and battling Illyana's older self?

If anything, we can just assume the bloodstones being Illyana's pieces of her good soul to be a retcon for the sake of the "true" Illyana making her return. Normally I don't like retcons but in this case, if it's for the sake of the "true" Illyana returning permanently, the more the better. But on the other hand, Illyana's demonic side was mentioned as an evil cancer, seed, etc. so what's the evil cancer within her? Black magic occupying the holes in her soul or a part of her soul being corrupted by Belasco? Also there's the part of the more black magic Illyana performs, the more demonic she becomes.



http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album_view.php?gid=3990&page=5


LAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

Voice echoes into space.

LAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

Laaaaannnnddd!!!!

I just picture him sitting at his desk, taunting us.

"I've done worse than kill you. I've hurt you. And I wish to go on, hurting you."

Yeah, I saw that as well, and look at Little Snowflake getting down with a critter. :biggrin:

[yanapryde]

So what was that whole scene in the first issue where Storm was walking through the white area, going "I had forgotten such beauty and joy existed" before reaching the corrupted core and battling Illyana's older self?

OH THAT SCENE!!! I kept sifting through looking for Storm actually walking through...like...a ghost or something that looked like Illyana. I see what you mean now.

And....isn't the horrific castle and surrounding landscape she eventually encounters supposed to represent the portion of Illyana that Belasco has already corrupted?

The "beauty and joy" represent her coveted pure innocence, and as Storm continues traveling she meets a twisted and daemonic representation of Illyana on top of some kind of demon horse or whatever, which personifies the darkness Belasco has already planted within her (from extracting a portion of her soul and reshaping it into a bloodstone).
Thus... Storm wouldn't come across an "empty space" or a "gap", because said 'empty space" or "gap" is now filled with "evil"

I use to many quotation marks. lol

Also?
CURSE YOU LAND!!!!!!!

ALSO??
Illyana cameo here: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=11302

[sunofdarkchild]

ALSO??
Illyana cameo here: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=11302

I guess Illyana has more freedom than we thought, if she feels she can get away with saying "no" to Cyclops.

And is that her old uniform? Why would she wear that again?

[yanapryde]

I guess Illyana has more freedom than we thought, if she feels she can get away with saying "no" to Cyclops.

And is that her old uniform? Why would she wear that again?

Mmm hmm.
And if you notice...she's sporting her standard Yellow X jumpsuit in one panel and then her old NM training uniform in subsequent panels.

Oops.
Spot-on dialogue though! :smile:

[MuhollandDriver]

I believe she was also wearing her old uniform in Uncanny #4.

She looks and sounds great in the X-Club preview.

[The Shogun]

Theres like 240 pages in this so, can anyone recommend some magik reading from the year 2000+?

[MuhollandDriver]

Theres like 240 pages in this so, can anyone recommend some magik reading from the year 2000+?

I would recommend The "Quest for Magik" arc from New X-men, then X-Infernus (a mini-series marking her return.) Both can familiarize you with her character.

After that, I highly recommend New Mutants #1 - 21 by Zeb Wells. It really shows you what Magik is made of.

You can purchase those in trade form.

Her current role in Uncanny seems promising as well.

If you care to venture into her roots, her "Magik: Illyana and Storm" mini is her origin story. Of course, there is the first volume of "New Mutants" which made her. I especially recommend the issues by Chris Claremont and Bill Sienkiewicz.

[Darkchylde]

I guess Illyana has more freedom than we thought, if she feels she can get away with saying "no" to Cyclops.

And is that her old uniform? Why would she wear that again?

A couple of questions:

1) Is it just me or does seeing Illyana in her old New Mutants uniform make anyone else nostalgic for it again? I know everyone has been clamoring for a new uniform for Illyana for forever - and she does deserve one, especially now that she's on the Extinction Team - but there's something about seeing Illyana in that classic outfit, with eldritch armor and all, that puts a smile on my face. It also makes me realize that I'd take her old uniform over her current one any day.

2) What exactly IS she doing in those panels? Is she mystically scanning whatever that... thing... is? Is she casting a spell? What? Personally, I'm glad anytime we see Illyana use her magic, since it's so rarely shown anywhere outside of Limbo. I hope writers like Kieron Gillen allow Illyana to tap into her other abilities besides teleportation.

[MuhollandDriver]

A couple of questions:

1) Is it just me or does seeing Illyana in her old New Mutants uniform make anyone else nostalgic for it again? I know everyone has been clamoring for a new uniform for Illyana for forever - and she does deserve one, especially now that she's on the Extinction Team - but there's something about seeing Illyana in that classic outfit, with eldritch armor and all, that puts a smile on my face. It also makes me realize that I'd take her old uniform over her current one any day.

2) What exactly IS she doing in those panels? Is she mystically scanning whatever that... thing... is? Is she casting a spell? What? Personally, I'm glad anytime we see Illyana use her magic, since it's so rarely shown anywhere outside of Limbo. I hope writers like Kieron Gillen allow Illyana to tap into her other abilities besides teleportation.

I will always love the first volume of New Mutants by Claremont, but I am ready for her to get her own outfit. I think Sam Guthrie is back in his "Supernovas" costume, and he looks great. A writer/artist could be really creative with a costume for her.

She is officially on the flagship team, and I think she needs a costume that reflects that. Why should Emma, Storm and Magneto look grand (if a little dated) while Illyana runs around in outfits she wore while on junior teams? Further punishment for the Elder Gods fiasco?

Magik might play a role beyond a cameo in that X-Club issue, I look forward to reading it. I love it when we see her cast her mojo.

[sunofdarkchild]

A couple of questions:

1) Is it just me or does seeing Illyana in her old New Mutants uniform make anyone else nostalgic for it again? I know everyone has been clamoring for a new uniform for Illyana for forever - and she does deserve one, especially now that she's on the Extinction Team - but there's something about seeing Illyana in that classic outfit, with eldritch armor and all, that puts a smile on my face. It also makes me realize that I'd take her old uniform over her current one any day.

2) What exactly IS she doing in those panels? Is she mystically scanning whatever that... thing... is? Is she casting a spell? What? Personally, I'm glad anytime we see Illyana use her magic, since it's so rarely shown anywhere outside of Limbo. I hope writers like Kieron Gillen allow Illyana to tap into her other abilities besides teleportation.

I always felt there was something to that classic outfit that only she could pull off. The "x" version she's wearing now doesn't come close. Still, a new costume like her graduation one would be much appreciated.

I'm assuming she was using a containment spell.

[yanapryde]

I always felt there was something to that classic outfit that only she could pull off. The "x" version she's wearing now doesn't come close. Still, a new costume like her graduation one would be much appreciated.

I'm assuming she was using a containment spell.

I think part of what made her "own" that look is that, while in the company of the Senior X-Men (as was often the case back in the 80's) she was the only one wearing THAT suit. It became distinct and unique by being surrounded by uniforms/costumes, where no two styles were alike.

I'm specifically remembering when she was called upon to bring the X-Men to the Morlock Tunnels to investigate the Maurader attack. Along with Storm, Kitty, Colossus, Wolverine, Rogue and Nightcrawler, Illyana's blonde hair and standard training uniform became "signature", rather than indiscernable. :smile:

[yanapryde]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7Nu1YBi-ZgY/TuZSNLCAgCI/AAAAAAAAA88/Uu8KhgRcj3I/s1600/new_mutants_32_page_20_by_robbi462-d4gs18x.jpeg

http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/8/2012/01/f9ef68e92da244b450f5a73db1bd63c4.jpg

[Havok83]

Great art. Who drew it?

[MuhollandDriver]

Who drew the second image? I love it!

[yanapryde]

Who drew the second image? I love it!

DANIEL GOVAR

http://io9.com/5876652/the-new-mutants-the-x+mens-sister-squad-get-snazzy-new-wardrobes

Mr.Govar's redesign of Cannonball bares many similarities to his current Legacy outfit. Hmmm....

[Darkchild]

Just read the Fall & Rise of The New Mutants. Such a great story. Kinda sad we won't see more of Darkchild-Illyana though...

[MuhollandDriver]

Just read the Fall & Rise of The New Mutants. Such a great story. Kinda sad we won't see more of Darkchild-Illyana though...

We don't know if we've seen the last of her "darkchild" aspects, darkchild. Kieron Gillen said that she has most of her soul back. I think "most" is the key word!

Daniel Govar did awesome work on every member! I wish he would have designed their costumes for the Zeb Wells run.

Illyana has never looked better.

Here are some more individual designs from him.

While almost a bit too "goat-leggish", Illyana's costume is one of the best I've seen her in. Grey and black compliment her!

http://www.tencentticker.com/projectrooftop/2011/06/03/daniel-govars-new-mutants-collection/

[Havok83]

Just read the Fall & Rise of The New Mutants. Such a great story. Kinda sad we won't see more of Darkchild-Illyana though...
I dont see it as sad. I thought it was a great resolution to her character arc. She's always been such a tragic character and I was glad she was able to finally get her soul back and some semblance of peace. She still retains some of her dark qualities, like her personality. She's a bit cold and still finds it hard to connect to others. She doesnt show alot of emotion and she's still a fierce fighter

[yanapryde]

I dont see it as sad. I thought it was a great resolution to her character arc. She's always been such a tragic character and I was glad she was able to finally get her soul back and some semblance of peace. She still retains some of her dark qualities, like her personality. She's a bit cold and still finds it hard to connect to others. She doesnt show alot of emotion and she's still a fierce fighter

AGREED! 100%!
Illyana's most recent story arcs have been a long time coming, and I am thrilled with these developments-- EVEN her incarceration!
I love me some redemptive, taking responsibility for my own actions, anti-heroism.
Illyana's defeat of the Elder Gods and subsequent soul-restoration (or at least "reclaiming" of MOST of her soul) AND her ascension to the Uncanny CORE cast?? Anyone who DOESN'T love that (??) doesn't really LOVE Illyana.
Yea. I said it.

[Havok83]

AGREED! 100%!
Illyana's most recent story arcs have been a long time coming, and I am thrilled with these developments-- EVEN her incarceration!
I love me some redemptive, taking responsibility for my own actions, anti-heroism.
Illyana's defeat of the Elder Gods and subsequent soul-restoration (or at least "reclaiming" of MOST of her soul) AND her ascension to the Uncanny CORE cast?? Anyone who DOESN'T love that (??) doesn't really LOVE Illyana.
Yea. I said it.
Yeah I loved it. She got what she wanted, but it wasnt all pretty nor did it lead to peace and happiness for her. While I hated her incarceration, it was fitting. She got most of her soul but at the cost of alienating most of her teammates, losing their respect and trust. She was imprisoned by Cyclops, rejected by her former BFF, and looked down upon. The only "good" thing to come out of that was that her relationship with Piotr improved as she was finally able to let her guard down and let him embrace her back into his life as his little sister. Other than that, she's been on an uphill battle to redeem herself and prove that she isnt evil and ready to stab them in the back at any minute. I think thats been great for her and the best thing she needs now is a character centric arc to focus in on her as there really. She had some great moments in NM and Uncanny while being imprisoned but nothing since being freed

[yanapryde]

Yeah I loved it. She got what she wanted, but it wasnt all pretty nor did it lead to peace and happiness for her. While I hated her incarceration, it was fitting. She got most of her soul but at the cost of alienating most of her teammates, losing their respect and trust. She was imprisoned by Cyclops, rejected by her former BFF, and looked down upon. The only "good" thing to come out of that was that her relationship with Piotr improved as she was finally able to let her guard down and let him embrace her back into his life as his little sister. Other than that, she's been on an uphill battle to redeem herself and prove that she isnt evil and ready to stab them in the back at any minute. I think thats been great for her and the best thing she needs now is a character centric arc to focus in on her as there really. She had some great moments in NM and Uncanny while being imprisoned but nothing since being freed

YES! Now if she can avoid being roofied by Tabula Rasa beasts for the duration of this Arc, we'll be in good shape, I hope.
REALLY excited for her 'hard focus' in Gillen's AVX tie in!!!!

[MuhollandDriver]

Are you worried that she won't grow devil horns and hoofs here and there, Darkchild?

I wouldn't worry. We may not see them for awhile, but those little details are her signatures. I am sure she can still hoof it up if she wants.

As for her New Mutants teammates, I don't think they were at all surprised with her. Dani was still visiting her in the brig. She may have been frustrated with Illyana, but she was still visiting her!

[Darkchild]

Are you worried that she won't grow devil horns and hoofs here and there, Darkchild?

I wouldn't worry. We may not see them for awhile, but those little details are her signatures. I am sure she can still hoof it up if she wants.

As for her New Mutants teammates, I don't think they were at all surprised with her. Dani was still visiting her in the brig. She may have been frustrated with Illyana, but she was still visiting her!

yeah basically that
it's like suddenly having Rachel without her houndmarks (even though she hid them for years they were still there)
or Cyclops with ruby quartz glasses/visor
or Emma without her slutty clothes
or Kitty without Lockheed
you know what i mean..

[MuhollandDriver]

yeah basically that
it's like suddenly having Rachel without her houndmarks (even though she hid them for years they were still there)
or Cyclops with ruby quartz glasses/visor
or Emma without her slutty clothes
or Kitty without Lockheed
you know what i mean..

I do!

No worries, I bet she can still sport the "darkchild" look.

[SunfireX]

I do!

No worries, I bet she can still sport the "darkchild" look.

I, personally, love the eldritch armor the most and would prefer to see less horns and goat legs.

[Darkchild]

oh i'd love to see her wear more armor as well
just one arm is getting boring

[MuhollandDriver]

Your avatar is the best!

I do love her silver horns.

[Silent Sigh]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7Nu1YBi-ZgY/TuZSNLCAgCI/AAAAAAAAA88/Uu8KhgRcj3I/s1600/new_mutants_32_page_20_by_robbi462-d4gs18x.jpeg


That final page made that whole issue worthy.


Just read the Fall & Rise of The New Mutants. Such a great story. Kinda sad we won't see more of Darkchild-Illyana though...

That whole arc was EPIC!! It was the perfect ending. I actually thanked Zeb Wells on his facebook for that great story.

I miss Wells u.u


AGREED! 100%!
Illyana's most recent story arcs have been a long time coming, and I am thrilled with these developments-- EVEN her incarceration!
I love me some redemptive, taking responsibility for my own actions, anti-heroism.
Illyana's defeat of the Elder Gods and subsequent soul-restoration (or at least "reclaiming" of MOST of her soul) AND her ascension to the Uncanny CORE cast?? Anyone who DOESN'T love that (??) doesn't really LOVE Illyana.
Yea. I said it.

I LOVE her for all of these. And even her incarceration too. It's a great moment to be her fan.

[yanapryde]

I, personally, love the eldritch armor the most and would prefer to see less horns and goat legs.

AGREED. I much prefer Illyana over Darkchild.

[Havok83]

I personally hated the goat legs

[MuhollandDriver]

I like the goat legs in moderation.

I don't want to see them completely go away.

Her darkchild persona has brought about some of her greatest stories.

[244]

Anyone read UXN #6? Illyana gets kidnapped yet again. I'm starting to wonder if it's going to be a recurring theme for her.

[Darkchylde]

...Conversely, did anyone check out the latest issue of X-Club, a title that I normally wouldn't have given the time of day but for Illyana's cameo. In the few panels she appeared in, she was pretty damn...boss, if I must say. And her characterization and dialogue was spot-on, I thought.

[MuhollandDriver]

...Conversely, did anyone check out the latest issue of X-Club, a title that I normally wouldn't have given the time of day but for Illyana's cameo. In the few panels she appeared in, she was pretty damn...boss, if I must say. And her characterization and dialogue was spot-on, I thought.

I loved her appearance in that issue! I think she is going to play a key role in the rest of the series. Great stuff!

[yanapryde]

Anyone read UXN #6? Illyana gets kidnapped yet again. I'm starting to wonder if it's going to be a recurring theme for her.

STARTING to wonder?
Arcade. Belasco. Russian Government. Second Coming Goons. THE X-MEN.
Everyone and anyone is always trying to lock her down. It's her schtik.

World's most abducted teleporter.

[244]

STARTING to wonder?
Arcade. Belasco. Russian Government. Second Coming Goons. THE X-MEN.
Everyone and anyone is always trying to lock her down. It's her schtik.

World's most abducted teleporter.

You left out the Purifiers from the x-men graphic novel "God Loves, Man Kills", but yeah, I see your point.

[Darkchild]

don't forget all the times she was abducted with the New Mutants as well:redface:

[yanapryde]

don't forget all the times she was abducted with the New Mutants as well:redface:

Right. Right.
Asgard. That time she lost her powers in outer space and was going to be sold into slavery. The Animator. Would AoX count? --She was incarcerated with the telepaths.

On the topic of abduction....I was a little miffed by the notion that she, yet again, got herself nabbed by the local baddies, but I take solace in knowing:

A) Cyclops got himself abducted first.:tongue:
B) She presumably fell victim to the same sedative spores which claimed multiple other 'captives', and Colossus needn't breath in his armored form, therefore stood immune to such subtlety.

And on the topic of Colossus: How bad ass was that when his sole reply was "Nyet" as he entered the cave, all Jugged out?? Chill inducing. Big Brother is gonna tear $#it UP!

[SunfireX]

For my fellow Yana-Fans by Patrico Oliver (http://patriciooliver.blogspot.com/)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6199/6075010611_92b9dbb381.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7175/6712834965_2c941c5b84.jpg

[MuhollandDriver]

Hah! Love it!

[Thirteen]

I always felt there was something to that classic outfit that only she could pull off. The "x" version she's wearing now doesn't come close. Still, a new costume like her graduation one would be much appreciated.


A look at some of Illyana's "individualized" costumes over the years (616 and other timelines). I still like the standard New Mutants gear (classic and current) with her added armor touches. Feels "right" on her...

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/12463/320581-160259-illyana-rasputin_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/160259-illyana-rasputin/105-320581/)http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/93983-72350-illyana-rasputin_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/72350-illyana-rasputin/105-93983/)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/1494/85570-155263-illyana-rasputin_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/155263-illyana-rasputin/105-85570/)http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3016/156554-30423-illyana-rasputin_large.JPG (http://www.comicvine.com/30423-illyana-rasputin/105-156554/)

[Twisted Bliss]

A look at some of Illyana's "individualized" costumes over the years (616 and other timelines). I still like the standard New Mutants gear (classic and current) with her added armor touches. Feels "right" on her...

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3016/156554-30423-illyana-rasputin_large.JPG[/url]

I liked this costume.

For me it's

1 - the original NM costume.
2 - the graduation costume with cloak and hood in red.
3 - this black and red costume.

[Shinglepants]

Hey,

I was wondering if any of you guys could help me out? I am planning on buying New X-Men Volume 5: Childhoods End. Mostly because I live Skottie Young and the over looks cool.

My problem is, I have never read anything with Magik in and the story seems to revolve around her. I worry I just wouldnt have a clue whats going on. Would this book make reletive sense to someone who knows pretty much nothing about Magik?

Cheers.

[MuhollandDriver]

Hey,

I was wondering if any of you guys could help me out? I am planning on buying New X-Men Volume 5: Childhoods End. Mostly because I live Skottie Young and the over looks cool.

My problem is, I have never read anything with Magik in and the story seems to revolve around her. I worry I just wouldnt have a clue whats going on. Would this book make reletive sense to someone who knows pretty much nothing about Magik?

Cheers.

It should. It even gives the readers a cool overview of her origin. Enjoy!

[Thirteen]

I liked this costume.

For me it's

1 - the original NM costume.
2 - the graduation costume with cloak and hood in red.
3 - this black and red costume.

I never really warmed to the red version of the graduation costume, though I guess the color could change in a very Phoenix or Raven (Titans) way to represent her purity at any given time.
And...I still have a curiousity about the Liefeld X-Force version of the "black and red" costume that was previewed but never made publication...

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/55549/1042265-nm_54_grip_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/nm_54_grip/105-1042265/)http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/229/87818-191169-new-mutants_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/191169-new-mutants/105-87818/)http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/94852-98902-marko-djurdjevic_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/98902-marko-djurdjevic/105-94852/)

[yanapryde]

Hey,

I was wondering if any of you guys could help me out? I am planning on buying New X-Men Volume 5: Childhoods End. Mostly because I live Skottie Young and the over looks cool.

My problem is, I have never read anything with Magik in and the story seems to revolve around her. I worry I just wouldnt have a clue whats going on. Would this book make reletive sense to someone who knows pretty much nothing about Magik?

Cheers.
The author successfully informs the reader, through creative narrative via one fo the New X-Kids, of Magik's history as well as why she's included in this arc. Should be a piece of cake. :wink:

I never really warmed to the red version of the graduation costume, though I guess the color could change in a very Phoenix or Raven (Titans) way to represent her purity at any given time.
And...I still have a curiousity about the Liefeld X-Force version of the "black and red" costume that was previewed but never made publication...

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/229/87818-191169-new-mutants_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/191169-new-mutants/105-87818/)

Looks like a 90's version of her red-mini-jacket costume.
That image certainlyl has me curious as to what intent there may have been to butcher--- I mean, INCLUDE her within the Liefeld era of X.
Can't say I agree with the Shatterstar pony she's sporting.

[Shinglepants]

It should. It even gives the readers a cool overview of her origin. Enjoy!


The author successfully informs the reader, through creative narrative via one fo the New X-Kids, of Magik's history as well as why she's included in this arc. Should be a piece of cake. :wink:

Thanks guys, much obliged.

[244]

I've been meaning to ask this: if anyone has gotten their hands on the Magik comiquette statue, how is it? Is it detailed enough? Does it have any bits of imperfections and whatnot?

[yanapryde]

I've been meaning to ask this: if anyone has gotten their hands on the Magik comiquette statue, how is it? Is it detailed enough? Does it have any bits of imperfections and whatnot?

Preordered it.....but with said preorder, I was told I would receive a notification in "a few months" as to when I can expect delivery to begin.
So....its not available yet, and won't even start deliveries for a few months.

[pryde15]

Saw this on tumblr, enjoy devil worshippers!
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz00eyr9c61qce9ueo1_500.jpg

[Emerald_616]

I like Illyana in the red costumes.

[yanapryde]

Saw this on tumblr, enjoy devil worshippers!
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz00eyr9c61qce9ueo1_500.jpg

Thank you Pryde! Good luck with your Brood infestation. Huggles!

[Darkchild]

Saw this on tumblr, enjoy devil worshippers!
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz00eyr9c61qce9ueo1_500.jpg

gorgeous! i love the way the armor on both of them is drawn/colored

[yanapryde]

Illyana Appreciation deserves a BUMP!

A LOVE Bump!

I'm so PSYCHED for tomorrow's issue! I'm hoping we get some PRIME action going on in that cave with Yana and Pete!

Also? Super jazzed for issue #9 and PRAYING that the cover is indicative of what we'll be treated to inside! I've been salivating over the idea of Mags and Magik fighting side by side again for ages and if it HAS TO be in the thick of it with the Avengers (?)..so be it.

Get those Aliens Magik! Get 'em!!

http://i.newsarama.com/images/uncx009-cover_02.jpg

And in honor of LOVE, I'll nominate Ultra Boy, from the Legion of Superheroes, as her newly appointed Beau.
Her power would allow her to traverse Universal lines into the DCU, and he's got plenty of experience with high maintenance women.

http://superherouniverse.com/art/data/500/23-Legion_UltraBoy.jpg

[SunfireX]

Illyana Appreciation deserves a BUMP!

A LOVE Bump!

I'm so PSYCHED for tomorrow's issue! I'm hoping we get some PRIME action going on in that cave with Yana and Pete!

Also? Super jazzed for issue #9 and PRAYING that the cover is indicative of what we'll be treated to inside! I've been salivating over the idea of Mags and Magik fighting side by side again for ages and if it HAS TO be in the thick of it with the Avengers (?)..so be it.

Get those Aliens Magik! Get 'em!!


And in honor of LOVE, I'll nominate Ultra Boy, from the Legion of Superheroes, as her newly appointed Beau.
Her power would allow her to traverse Universal lines into the DCU, and he's got plenty of experience with high maintenance women.


Wow...that is one hot Ultra Boy but I think that UB is a bit too much of a douche for Illyana. I think Cosmic Boy would be a better fit for our Lady Magick.

[yanapryde]

Wow...that is one hot Ultra Boy but I think that UB is a bit too much of a douche for Illyana. I think Cosmic Boy would be a better fit for our Lady Magick.

You say "douche", I say "suitable strong personality capable of keeping up with Illyana"

ha ha ha
And c'mon, he is HAWT.

I'm tempted to make fan art of them together.

[Boozier]

I bet you're excited for the Exiled crossover. Sounds like Gillen has some plans for Magik.

[yanapryde]

I bet you're excited for the Exiled crossover. Sounds like Gillen has some plans for Magik.

Really??
I was under the impression that Magik wouldn't be included.
They explicitly stated that only the San Fran team would be featured.
I assumed Magik, being on Utopia, was excluded.

[Boozier]

Really??
I was under the impression that Magik wouldn't be included.
They explicitly stated that only the San Fran team would be featured.
I assumed Magik, being on Utopia, was excluded.

For some reason Gillen brought up Magik in that interview. "There's a reason I took Magik for UXM." I wasn't sure if he was setting up Exiled in UXM through her or if he just wanted to write a New Mutant.

[yanapryde]

For some reason Gillen brought up Magik in that interview. "There's a reason I took Magik for UXM." I wasn't sure if he was setting up Exiled in UXM through her or if he just wanted to write a New Mutant.

Yea, I wasn't sure what he meant by that either.
Adoration for the NM characters? Plans for this specific arc?
Yea, I wasn't sure.

[MuhollandDriver]

It was stated that Cannonball and Magik will not be in it.

Bummer.

It is great that she is on the flagship title which is also the best-selling Marvel comic.

I have to say that she will be missed in this event. I would love to see Illyana interacting with Dani, battling minions from Asgard.

I am enjoying the current Uncanny run, but am fairly uninterested in Magik's role so far. Hopefully that will change.

[yanapryde]

It was stated that Cannonball and Magik will not be in it.

Bummer.

It is great that she is on the flagship title which is also the best-selling Marvel comic.

I have to say that she will be missed in this event. I would love to see Illyana interacting with Dani, battling minions from Asgard.

I am enjoying the current Uncanny run, but am fairly uninterested in Magik's role so far. Hopefully that will change.

Where?
I heard Cannonball and Wolfsbane won't be in it.
No mention of Magik beyond his comment about taking her to UXM

[MuhollandDriver]

Where?
I heard Cannonball and Wolfsbane won't be in it.
No mention of Magik beyond his comment about taking her to UXM

It was mentioned on the Marvel liveblog...near the end I believe.

http://marvel.com/news/story/18103/next_big_thing_liveblogs

[MuhollandDriver]

Actually, it is in the middle. Lanning says, "Sorry, nope."

[Boozier]

Aw, boo. Missed that. It would've been fun to have her there, especially against Loki. She would be a very formidable opponent for him.

[Tori Pagac]

sideshow magik now has a estimated ship date of may that is all:biggrin:

[244]

What is that from? I like!

Found it.

http://taguiar.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=24#/d48ovyu

[MuhollandDriver]

Found it.

http://taguiar.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=24#/d48ovyu

Thanks! Great image.

[Thirteen]

Illyana Appreciation deserves a BUMP!

And in honor of LOVE, I'll nominate Ultra Boy, from the Legion of Superheroes, as her newly appointed Beau.
Her power would allow her to traverse Universal lines into the DCU, and he's got plenty of experience with high maintenance women.


Not sure how age-appropriate either are for Illyana at this point but I see either Kristoff Dr Doom (corrupted by an evil mentor and reshaped in his image!) or Iron Lad/Kid Kang (time traveller with an inescapable dark destiny!) as potential LOVE matches!
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/378/124181-122217-kristoff-vernard_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/122217-kristoff-vernard/105-124181/)http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/38888/977641-ironlad_01_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/ironlad_01/105-977641/)

[Tori Pagac]

http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2010/262/c/d/shadow_cat__magik__lockheed_by_justinblong-d2z3cqy.jpg what is kitty looking at

[244]

http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2010/262/c/d/shadow_cat__magik__lockheed_by_justinblong-d2z3cqy.jpg what is kitty looking at

Yeesh. Is that how kids in their mid teens really look like? They must've hit puberty early.

[pryde15]

http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2010/262/c/d/shadow_cat__magik__lockheed_by_justinblong-d2z3cqy.jpg what is kitty looking at

Those are the most awkward set of tits.
I feel that artist should not be allowed to draw women if they cannot draw at least passable breasts.

[Deathstroke]

By the way, I just got the Magik lead figurine this week. Really cool looking.

[TETO/memo1989]

Ummm so I was wondering if MagiK had her full soul or 3/5 of her soul???

[244]

Ummm so I was wondering if MagiK had her full soul or 3/5 of her soul???

Before Magik got back 3/5 of her soul from New Mutants #21 (Zeb Wells' run), she got back a fragment of her soul through her soulsword from X-infernus #2. She's been behaving more human as a result.

[yanapryde]

By the way, I just got the Magik lead figurine this week. Really cool looking.
Me too! Me Too! The paint job on mine is ... a little bit of a bummer, but I'm sure my 14" comicquette will more than make up for that when it arrives! So great to have legitimate Magik collectibles!

Ummm so I was wondering if MagiK had her full soul or 3/5 of her soul???

Before Magik got back 3/5 of her soul from New Mutants #21 (Zeb Wells' run), she got back a fragment of her soul through her soulsword from X-infernus #2. She's been behaving more human as a result.
Yea, I'm guessing she's only missing about 1/5th at this point, but...who knows what is going on until it is officially addressed (which may not happen for a long, long time)
She's PROBABLY the most "human" she's been in a long time though, since returning from Limbo as a child (those few brief stints of humanity --via Beyonder, etc -- not withstanding)

[sunofdarkchild]

Me too! Me Too! The paint job on mine is ... a little bit of a bummer, but I'm sure my 14" comicquette will more than make up for that when it arrives! So great to have legitimate Magik collectibles!


Yea, I'm guessing she's only missing about 1/5th at this point, but...who knows what is going on until it is officially addressed (which may not happen for a long, long time)
She's PROBABLY the most "human" she's been in a long time though, since returning from Limbo as a child (those few brief stints of humanity --via Beyonder, etc -- not withstanding)

Well, until she got the bloodstones back sh hated being called by Illyana, the name she prefered back in the day. And she had the bloodstones and soul sword with her the whole time after she left Limbo, so if she was missing those parts of her soul merely having them should have restored it like it did now.

[TETO/memo1989]

Thanks :D
umm so her Soulsword is a 1/5 of her soul?? Wow i never knew that. so does that mean that Belasco couldnt get all her soul???

[244]

Thanks :D
umm so her Soulsword is a 1/5 of her soul?? Wow i never knew that. so does that mean that Belasco couldnt get all her soul???

My understanding about the soulsword is it was created from Illyana's soul which Belasco has failed to steal, and it's been like an extension of her soul.

The 80's Illyana had 2/5 of her soul and the 3/5 was inside the Beatrice Medallion



Well, until she got the bloodstones back sh hated being called by Illyana, the name she prefered back in the day. And she had the bloodstones and soul sword with her the whole time after she left Limbo, so if she was missing those parts of her soul merely having them should have restored it like it did now.

It has been impossible to remove the bloodstones out of the Medallion until Legion used his reality warping powers to destroy the Medallion except the bloodstones which he gave to Magik. As for the soulsword, it's accepted that it's like an extension of her soul.

[TETO/memo1989]

My understanding about the soulsword is it was created from Illyana's soul which Belasco has failed to steal, and it's been like an extension of her soul.

The 80's Illyana had 2/5 of her soul and the 3/5 was inside the Beatrice Medallion

So Magik have 4/5 of her soul: 3/5 was inside the Beatrice Medallion and 1/5 the Soulsword.
where is the 1/5 of her soul??? or is the Soulsword 2/5 of her soul???

[244]

So Magik have 4/5 of her soul: 3/5 was inside the Beatrice Medallion and 1/5 the Soulsword.
where is the 1/5 of her soul??? or is the Soulsword 2/5 of her soul???

I'd like to assume 2/5 is the soulsword; the portion which Belasco failed to steal, otherwise, it still wouldn't bring closure to her soul searching (literally) even if she still missing some and Zeb Wells did promise to tie the loose ends concerning with Illyana.

[sunofdarkchild]

So Magik have 4/5 of her soul: 3/5 was inside the Beatrice Medallion and 1/5 the Soulsword.
where is the 1/5 of her soul??? or is the Soulsword 2/5 of her soul???

We don't know. There was never any reason in the past to assume that parts of her soul were missing. That assumtion is based entirely on the (latest) retcon of the soul sword's origins in Quest for Magik and the desire of some here for everything to be rosy for li'l snowflake. The soul sword has usually been assumed to represent a miniscule portion of her soul compared to the bloodstones, but that too is just an assumtion.

All that is certain is that the bloodstones are 1/5 of her soul each.

[yanapryde]

Well said, sunofdarkchild.

The soulsword's name always struck me as a bit funny given its origin.
I always understood it to be the physical manifestation of Illyana's "mystical might" or "magical life force" as it were. Y'know, the "sum totality" and all that business.
So back during the X-Infernus, when she retrieved the blade from Pixie, she regained a pliable portion of her humanity, which as illustrated-- restored her human form (w/ the exception of her horns) but not necessarily her humanity.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111125130248/marveldatabase/images/thumb/9/90/X-Infernus_Vol_1_2_-_page_10_-_Illyana_Rasputina_(Earth-616).png/177px-X-Infernus_Vol_1_2_-_page_10_-_Illyana_Rasputina_(Earth-616).png
So again, soulsword seems an odd choice of wording.....until the Quest for Magik, at which point they emphasized that the blade(s) are composed of innocence (it being a powerful energy source in a place like Limbo)

[Darkchylde]

Well said, sunofdarkchild.

The soulsword's name always struck me as a bit funny given its origin.
I always understood it to be the physical manifestation of Illyana's "mystical might" or "magical life force" as it were. Y'know, the "sum totality" and all that business.
So back during the X-Infernus, when she retrieved the blade from Pixie, she regained a pliable portion of her humanity, which as illustrated-- restored her human form (w/ the exception of her horns) but not necessarily her humanity.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111125130248/marveldatabase/images/thumb/9/90/X-Infernus_Vol_1_2_-_page_10_-_Illyana_Rasputina_(Earth-616).png/177px-X-Infernus_Vol_1_2_-_page_10_-_Illyana_Rasputina_(Earth-616).png
So again, soulsword seems an odd choice of wording.....until the Quest for Magik, at which point they emphasized that the blade(s) are composed of innocence (it being a powerful energy source in a place like Limbo)

Great comments by Yanapryde and Sunofdarkchild regarding the Soulsword, but I have to say that I slightly disagree. I seem to recall instances during the original New Mutants run where the Soulsword was referred to as the sum and substance of Illyana's arcane might AND the physical manifestation of Illyana's soul. (Kind of like how Psylocke's psychic blade was the "focused totality of her telepathic powers.") And as we all know by now from the original Magik limited series, the Soulsword was formed from Illyana's desire for vengeance against Belasco -- not innocence or 'good' as she tried in vain to attempt. (Remember that whole 'exploding acorn' business?)

Of course, I'm willing to acquiesce; we may just be debating semantics, really. "Quest for Magik" seemed to convolute matters by Illyana attempting to forge a new Soulsword from the Bloodstones; which directly contradicts the original sword's origins. (Or, one can argue that Illyana first needed to imbue Pixie with black magick first in order to harness a new Soulsword.)

Oh well, if nothing else, I think we can all agree that 'Soulsword' is spelled as one word and not two, i.e. 'Soul Sword' in Warren Ellis' awful and perenially-ignored "Soul Sword Trilogy" in Excalibur Vol. 1

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http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2010/262/c/d/shadow_cat__magik__lockheed_by_justinblong-d2z3cqy.jpg what is kitty looking at


Those are the most awkward set of tits.
I feel that artist should not be allowed to draw women if they cannot draw at least passable breasts.

Isn't that based on a X-Men swimsuit poster by Jim Lee? With Illyana being the Psylocke in that pic.89226

[yanapryde]

Hey Magik Fans!!

I'm going to be posting some art this weekend here in Illyana's Appreciation thread. It will be a comic page written by fellow CBR poster and Illyana enthusiast, Niels van Eekelen, depicting (and maybe predicting) Illyana's awakening after having been abducted (yet again) by the Tabula Rasa, anesthesia-secreting creatures with the butterfly things on their backs.

This scene would take place in the upcoming issue of UXM#8, and will be posted here prior to said issue's release :smile:
Stay tuned!

[MuhollandDriver]

I look forward to it!

The new arc in New Mutants seems full of possibilities. Exiled looks like a fun event as well. Magik is not going to be in either, it seems. Maybe the recent New Mutants arc. Anyone else missing her on that book?

[yanapryde]

I look forward to it!

The new arc in New Mutants seems full of possibilities. Exiled looks like a fun event as well. Magik is not going to be in either, it seems. Maybe the recent New Mutants arc. Anyone else missing her on that book?

Magik is the Wolverine of the New Mutants --- only BETTER.
She is the MOST qualified out of almost every X-Man available to be on MULTIPLE teams, given her powerset.
I miss her in it so much.

[MuhollandDriver]

Magik is the Wolverine of the New Mutants --- only BETTER.
She is the MOST qualified out of almost every X-Man available to be on MULTIPLE teams, given her powerset.
I miss her in it so much.

I agree!

I do adore Kieron Gillen. I think he is a terrific writer. However, Illyana feels quite underused on Uncanny. I don't expect her to be the star! It is an ensemble cast. Still, I am wanting a bit more than being captured and acting as a plot device for her brother. She did have a fun moment or two a couple issues ago. I don't want to jump to conclusions. Hopefully the next few issues will change my mind. Then again, I am not completely sold on this Uncanny run, period. I like parts of it, but not as a whole...yet at least!

[jamgut]

I agree!

I do adore Kieron Gillen. I think he is a terrific writer. However, Illyana feels quite underused on Uncanny. I don't expect her to be the star! It is an ensemble cast. Still, I am wanting a bit more than being captured and acting as a plot device for her brother. She did have a fun moment or two a couple issues ago. I don't want to jump to conclusions. Hopefully the next few issues will change my mind. Then again, I am not completely sold on this Uncanny run, period. I like parts of it, but not as a whole...yet at least!

Would love to see Illyana back with the NMs. Just imagine the fun exchanges that could have occurred between Illyana and the Devil when he came to pick up Amara. More importantly, Illyana would be an active member of team and interact with her teammates. I'm not sure why Gillen was even interested in adding her to the Extinction team. Have we seen any dialog between Illlyana and Magneto or Storm or Emma or anyone on the team other than her brother and Scott?

[MuhollandDriver]

Would love to see Illyana back with the NMs. Just imagine the fun exchanges that could have occurred between Illyana and the Devil when he came to pick up Amara. More importantly, Illyana would be an active member of team and interact with her teammates. I'm not sure why Gillen was even interested in adding her to the Extinction team. Have we seen any dialog between Illlyana and Magneto or Storm or Emma or anyone on the team other than her brother and Scott?

So far, she only interacts with her brother and takes orders from Cyclops. I agree with you, also. As I read the latest New Mutants issues, I wonder how Illyana would have been written. Abnett and Lanning write her quite well.

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Would love to see Illyana back with the NMs. Just imagine the fun exchanges that could have occurred between Illyana and the Devil when he came to pick up Amara. More importantly, Illyana would be an active member of team and interact with her teammates. I'm not sure why Gillen was even interested in adding her to the Extinction team. Have we seen any dialog between Illlyana and Magneto or Storm or Emma or anyone on the team other than her brother and Scott?

Here's a response from Gillen why he added Illyana to the Extinction team from his formspring page:


What is it about Illyana 'Magik' Rasputin, that drew you to include her among Uncanny's core cast? Do you believe that she truly does want redemption?

(I left this question for a while, because I knew I couldn't really answer it until I was able to talk about Uncanny freely)

To be boringly prosaic, part of it was absolutely her power-set. I want a team that hangs together conceptually. If I had the X-men, who would I choose to be on my team? I need transport. The best transporter in the whole of the X-men (hell, possibly the whole of the MU) is Magik. She'd probably be in on that alone.

(There's also her skills in Magic itself. As Scott says in Fear Itself, it's not actually what the X-men normally do. Illyana's the exception. Occasionally they'll have to deal with magic, and they need a specialist.)

Secondly, that she's got the past history of villainry plays into the theme of the book. The world would be more scared of a team with Magik on than - say - Pixie.

Thirdly, I was just really interested in her current status quo. She was a reconstruct of someone. She did something that was incredibly, incredibly dangerous for purely selfish reasons. She got most of her soul back. So... who is she now? By definition, she isn't the same person who did that thing. Who is she now *really*? How can we be sure? That's all kinds of dramatically interesting.

Fourthly, her relationship with Colossus works in terms of team dynamics. Put aside the fact she's his sister. She's been through something more than a little akin to what Colossus is going through. If there was such a thing as Demonics Anonymous, she'd be his sponsor.

Fifthly, I just loved the visual of the X-men just appearing in the middle of a crisis zone, stepping out of one her disks. I mean - look at that first image in the preview, with the X-men appearing with a bloody pentagram hanging over them. That's charged imagery in all kinds of ways.

As he said from his formspring page and/or early interviews, each core member of UXN will have a chance, so the only thing we can do is be patient.

I personally want Illyana not to return to the New Mutants because I would like to see them shine without relying on her.

[jamgut]

Here's a response from Gillen why he added Illyana to the Extinction team from his formspring page:



As he said from his formspring page and/or early interviews, each core member of UXN will have a chance, so the only thing we can do is be patient.

I personally want Illyana not to return to the New Mutants because I would like to see them shine without relying on her.

If Gillen wanted a teleporter that could also comfort Pete, he should have gotten Lockjaw from the Inhumans. The team would get a teleporter and Pete would get a dog.

One of the reasons I prefer team books is the interaction among teammates and that has been sorely lacking for Illyana. Gillen could make her the focal point of a 3-issue arc but it won't matter if all she does is talk to "brother" and take orders from Cyclops.

Regarding the NMs, at least Illyana wouldn't be at the bottom of the pecking order. On the UXM team she's outranked by the likes of Danger and Hope.

[DrGregatron]

Glad to see Illyana working alongside her big bro in UXM. Been a fan of her since the Claremont/Sienkiewicz era. Slumber Party issue with the first appearance of Warlock is classic!

[yanapryde]

Hey Magik Fans!!
Brought to you by fellow CBR poster and Illyana enthusiast, Niels van Eekelen (and myself) depicting (and maybe predicting) Illyana's awakening after having been abducted (yet again) by the Tabula Rasa, anesthesia-secreting creatures with the butterfly things on their backs.

This scene would take place in the upcoming issue of UXM#8

http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo304/cpjudd/trial2.jpg

[NielsVanEekelen]

Posted this with the page in the Vignettes thread, but so that it's here too:

This was really just something I wrote up quick when Yanapryde and I were emailing about Illyana's extremely limited role right now and what might happen yet. And then Yanapryde went and made me look really really good by putting it to paper like this.

Here's the script:


PANEL ONE

Close on MAGIK. She's covering her face with a hand, groaning as she wakes up.

MAGIK (weakly):
WHERE--?

PANEL TWO

An assortment of Tabula Rasa's creatures--mostly but not exclusively the butterfly-tentacled ones who abducted her--surround Magik where she lies on the floor in a temple-cave.

CREATURE:
IT AWAKENS. ITS KIND KILLED THE FOREVER MAN. ITS KIND KILLED OUR GOD.

(Several other creatures speak in their own language.)

PANEL THREE

Close on the English-speaking creature.

CREATURE:
IT WILL BE OUR SACRIFICE, AND ITS BLOOD WILL SHOW US WHO IS NOW MASTER OF ALL.

PANEL FOUR

Back on Magik, pushing herself up from the floor with one arm. She smirks with devious glee as her Soulsword flames into existence in her outstretched hand

MAGIK:
IN THE MARKET FOR A GOD, THEN, ARE YOU? YOU SHOULD SHOW PROPER DEFERENCE TO THE CANDIDATES.

MAGIK (cont'd)
DON'T WORRY. I'LL TEACH YOU.


(I stole this page of script from Kieron Gillen's harddrive. Yes I did, honest, I swear on my X-gene.)

[MuhollandDriver]

You noticed that Danger gets billing over her as well! Bwah! Again, I adore most of what Kieron Gillen writes. His Journey Into Mystery is one of my favorites. Maybe Magik will have more to do in the next issues.

We know that Jason Aaron wanted her for Wolverine and the X-Men. I wonder if we would have gotten some Kitty/Magik interaction? That possible subplot interests me much more.

I loved what both of You did, NielsVanEekelen and yanapryde. Hopefully the upcoming issue can live up to it.

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If Gillen wanted a teleporter that could also comfort Pete, he should have gotten Lockjaw from the Inhumans. The team would get a teleporter and Pete would get a dog.

One of the reasons I prefer team books is the interaction among teammates and that has been sorely lacking for Illyana. Gillen could make her the focal point of a 3-issue arc but it won't matter if all she does is talk to "brother" and take orders from Cyclops.

Regarding the NMs, at least Illyana wouldn't be at the bottom of the pecking order. On the UXM team she's outranked by the likes of Danger and Hope.

Illyana is still a prisoner so it's not like she has a choice to be the teleporter for the Extinction team.

As for team interactions, she usually keeps to herself unless if it's anyone she truly feels comfortable with.

[yanapryde]

So....we're all in favor of RAMSPUTIN, right?

Cypher and Magik?
Doug and Illyana?

The two recently and forcibly resurrected New Mutant blondes who creep a lot of people out and seem to analyze those around them at all times?

Marvelous.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_74WAVbHMQ2I/TK7M4oOhNqI/AAAAAAAABbQ/ong8D-bsae0/s1600/Cypher_Magik_by_pmaestro.jpg

[NielsVanEekelen]

Ha! Awesome image.

[Ingonyama]

So....we're all in favor of RAMSPUTIN, right?

Cypher and Magik?
Doug and Illyana?

The two recently and forcibly resurrected New Mutant blondes who creep a lot of people out and seem to analyze those around them at all times?

Marvelous.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_74WAVbHMQ2I/TK7M4oOhNqI/AAAAAAAABbQ/ong8D-bsae0/s1600/Cypher_Magik_by_pmaestro.jpg

I always thought it was stupid having a demon sorceress and a super-smart omnilinguist on the same team together, and NOT HAVING THE OMNILINGUIST LEARN SOME FREAKING MAGIC.

Tell me I'm not the only one here...

[yanapryde]

Just another GREAT reason for these two to become an item.
Good thinking, Ingonyama!

Illyana would have to tutor him a bit, given his most recent magical debacle sending the team to Hell....on accident...

[Ingonyama]

Just another GREAT reason for these two to become an item.
Good thinking, Ingonyama!

Illyana would have to tutor him a bit, given his most recent magical debacle sending the team to Hell....on accident...

I don't know about "item," since I don't know how much chemistry they have together. However, I do think they should work together a lot more, and at least acknowledge that they are friends and do have that shared history.

Should a relationship build from there, I'd love to see it grow, as long as it happened naturally.

[yanapryde]

I don't know about "item," since I don't know how much chemistry they have together. However, I do think they should work together a lot more, and at least acknowledge that they are friends and do have that shared history.

Should a relationship build from there, I'd love to see it grow, as long as it happened naturally.

Stay tuned for Niels Van Eekelen's X-Men Vignette.....:smile:

EDIT:
Hey, hey, hey!! Magik fans! What do you envision Illyana wears when not in her X-suit?
She's been shown, most recently in a more edgey, rock, goth type style...

What do you guys imagine?

[NielsVanEekelen]

I always thought it was stupid having a demon sorceress and a super-smart omnilinguist on the same team together, and NOT HAVING THE OMNILINGUIST LEARN SOME FREAKING MAGIC.

Tell me I'm not the only one here...

But magic is a lot more than just saying the words--as Cypher found when he tried a simple teleportation spell to Hel.

(Seriously, I have strong feelings about this--I see magic as 90% a mental discipline that is simply expressed through spells. Otherwise it becomes something anyone can do with a few elocution lessons.)

[NielsVanEekelen]

Stay tuned for Niels Van Eekelen's X-Men Vignette.....:smile:

Spoilers! :wink:


EDIT:
Hey, hey, hey!! Magik fans! What do you envision Illyana wears when not in her X-suit?
She's been shown, most recently in a more edgey, rock, goth type style...

What do you guys imagine?

Wasn't really a fan of the gothy clothes. Might have been an attempt by her to present a threatening dark persona. (Yes yes, I read too much into every little detail, I can't help it.)

When I picture her in civvies, she keeps it simple, like jeans and a T-shirt. (But what's on the T-shirt? Hm... a Harry Potter witchcraft shirt for the irony?)

[MuhollandDriver]

Magic is also a force of personality, and Magik fits the bill.

I see Magik dressing cool and a bit edgy. Nothing over the top. I like her black concert tees! She rocks the pleated skirts like no one else. A concert tee or dark blouse, a pleated grey skirt and sensible doc martens suit her well! Of course, her demon queen look has its place here and there.

[Ingonyama]

But magic is a lot more than just saying the words--as Cypher found when he tried a simple teleportation spell to Hel.

(Seriously, I have strong feelings about this--I see magic as 90% a mental discipline that is simply expressed through spells. Otherwise it becomes something anyone can do with a few elocution lessons.)

Oh, I agree there should be more to magic. But again, super-smart omnilinguist. Magic seems to gravitate towards the intelligent.

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Stay tuned for Niels Van Eekelen's X-Men Vignette.....:smile:

EDIT:
Hey, hey, hey!! Magik fans! What do you envision Illyana wears when not in her X-suit?
She's been shown, most recently in a more edgey, rock, goth type style...

What do you guys imagine?

Maybe this is the anime fan in me talking, but I sometimes imagine her wearing a gothic lolita dress. It has the elegance but also the darkness, which fits Magik's character (that is, if we're talking about the pre fall/rise of the new mutants Magik, and I'm glad Zeb Wells refined her character in speech and manner even for her demonic side).

[MuhollandDriver]

Maybe this is the anime fan in me talking, but I sometimes imagine her wearing a gothic lolita dress. It has the elegance but also the darkness, which fits Magik's character (that is, if we're talking about the pre fall/rise of the new mutants Magik, and I'm glad Zeb Wells refined her character in speech and manner even for her demonic side).

Great post, I agree! There have actually been some anime-inspired renderings of Magik that were quite good.

I do see her clothing style as a mix of refinement and rock star with darker textures. I will try and find some images.

[Paul Mundane]

here's an offsided question for everyone, but one that has been bugging me for some time. Illyana's mutant ability is to teleport via her discs, right? I mean, that IS her mutant ability, not a mystic spell? Thing is, why does Pixie have it? I know Illyana supposedly taught it to Pixie, but why would she even know a teleport spell to begin with? That's the equivalent of me learning a walking spell, you know, to walk with.

Has her mutant ability been retconned away? If so, and her teleport is now a spell effect, is she still a mutant?

See, now here's the thing about that. And, understand, this is full nerd mode. When I was younger, me and friends used to play the Marvel RPG. In the source book on sorcery, they gave an example of characters without magic trying to use it. As their example, they had a fictional (more fictional) event where Kitty tried to mimic Illyana's casting, and accidently teleported herself to Hong Kong. We laughed about it back then, assuming it was an error on the writer's part (because Illyana's teleporting was not a spell). Were we wrong? Has this always been up in the air?

Just wondering is all.

[MuhollandDriver]

here's an offsided question for everyone, but one that has been bugging me for some time. Illyana's mutant ability is to teleport via her discs, right? I mean, that IS her mutant ability, not a mystic spell? Thing is, why does Pixie have it? I know Illyana supposedly taught it to Pixie, but why would she even know a teleport spell to begin with? That's the equivalent of me learning a walking spell, you know, to walk with.

Has her mutant ability been retconned away? If so, and her teleport is now a spell effect, is she still a mutant?

See, now here's the thing about that. And, understand, this is full nerd mode. When I was younger, me and friends used to play the Marvel RPG. In the source book on sorcery, they gave an example of characters without magic trying to use it. As their example, they had a fictional (more fictional) event where Kitty tried to mimic Illyana's casting, and accidently teleported herself to Hong Kong. We laughed about it back then, assuming it was an error on the writer's part (because Illyana's teleporting was not a spell). Were we wrong? Has this always been up in the air?

Just wondering is all.

Pixie still has her mutant powers, which are flight and hallucinogenic dust. I believe her mini implied that she is part-fey, so she may be a mutant/humanoid hybrid like Sub-Mariner.

Magik's mutant power is teleporting through space and time. Her discs do have a connection to Limbo, which is a time/space mutable dimension. Perhaps Kitty was using a teleport spell instead of Illyana's power!

[sunofdarkchild]

here's an offsided question for everyone, but one that has been bugging me for some time. Illyana's mutant ability is to teleport via her discs, right? I mean, that IS her mutant ability, not a mystic spell? Thing is, why does Pixie have it? I know Illyana supposedly taught it to Pixie, but why would she even know a teleport spell to begin with? That's the equivalent of me learning a walking spell, you know, to walk with.

Has her mutant ability been retconned away? If so, and her teleport is now a spell effect, is she still a mutant?

See, now here's the thing about that. And, understand, this is full nerd mode. When I was younger, me and friends used to play the Marvel RPG. In the source book on sorcery, they gave an example of characters without magic trying to use it. As their example, they had a fictional (more fictional) event where Kitty tried to mimic Illyana's casting, and accidently teleported herself to Hong Kong. We laughed about it back then, assuming it was an error on the writer's part (because Illyana's teleporting was not a spell). Were we wrong? Has this always been up in the air?

Just wondering is all.

Most sorcerers know teleportation spells. I don't believe it was canon but it was assumed that teleportation spells were the only kind Belasco kept hidden from her in Limbo. There was also the stupid and inconsistent way her magic worked on Earth which meant that she might not have been able to cast those spells outside of Limbo, and the fact that her teammates were much more comfortable with mutant powers than spells. On the other hand her lack of control over where in time she's end up was a major weakness.

Nowadays I just assume that her mutant teleportation ability to make an unlimited number of portals of any size between both time and space is so overpowered that it renders any and all teleportation spells obsolete.

[yanapryde]

here's an offsided question for everyone, but one that has been bugging me for some time. Illyana's mutant ability is to teleport via her discs, right? I mean, that IS her mutant ability, not a mystic spell? Thing is, why does Pixie have it? I know Illyana supposedly taught it to Pixie, but why would she even know a teleport spell to begin with? That's the equivalent of me learning a walking spell, you know, to walk with.

Has her mutant ability been retconned away? If so, and her teleport is now a spell effect, is she still a mutant?

See, now here's the thing about that. And, understand, this is full nerd mode. When I was younger, me and friends used to play the Marvel RPG. In the source book on sorcery, they gave an example of characters without magic trying to use it. As their example, they had a fictional (more fictional) event where Kitty tried to mimic Illyana's casting, and accidently teleported herself to Hong Kong. We laughed about it back then, assuming it was an error on the writer's part (because Illyana's teleporting was not a spell). Were we wrong? Has this always been up in the air?

Just wondering is all.

Illyana's mutant talent is to teleport through time and space, via accessing the stepping discs of Limbo.
Pixie was taught a teleportation spell (often misillustrated as opening a portal, sadly) for simple transportation: "Sihal Novarum Chinoth"

Illyana's arcane knowledge is vast and largely unexplored, on panel. She's retained a plethora of spells and incantations for various purposes during her time as Belasco's apprentice and long after as ruler, herself.

Teaching Pixie that spell was specific to that circumstance....and in my opinion, a bit ridiculous. Can anyone recall specifically what she said was the reason for needing Pixie to learn the spell? Were the stepping discs somehow "locked" or....was it that if she used them then Belasco would know?

And lastly, having the teleportation spell in her back pocket is brilliant, if you ask me, in the event her mutant powers were inhibited somehow.
Always be prepared.:smile:

[MuhollandDriver]

Here we go, everyone....

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=37385

Magik is officially in the VS title! At first I was surprised by her challenger, but they do have something interesting in common. Terry Dodson is doing the art, while Chris Yost is writing it.

[sunofdarkchild]

Here we go, everyone....

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=37385

Magik is officially in the VS title! At first I was surprised by her challenger, but they do have something interesting in common. Terry Dodson is doing the art, while Chris Yost is writing it.

Well, it's a chance to show the skills she picked up from Cat.

[yanapryde]

I really don't believe I could wish any harder than I am, for Illyana to come out the victor when facing off against Natasha.

Also?
Some really interesting and well done developments for our Rasputins over in Uncanny #8.
Granted, Illyana didn't rise up and destroy her kidnappers as I would have hoped (per Niels' and my previous collaboration) BUT....it'll do.

[sunofdarkchild]

How the fight should go-

Black Widow teleported to someplace remote and/or deadly.

How it will go-

punch, kick, slash, pinch, shoot, tickle.

[Paul Mundane]

How the fight should go-

Black Widow teleported to someplace remote and/or deadly.

How it will go-

punch, kick, slash, pinch, shoot, tickle.

It'd be nice to see Magik riled up enough to teleport Black Widow to Limbo, like she did with Forge. They could still duke it out, just with a better setting, and a clear show of Illyana at full power. Heck, I'd take a Black Widow close call win that way even, because lets face it, she will win the fight. (sorry, i know she shouldn't, but she will.)

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Here we go, everyone....

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=37385

Magik is officially in the VS title! At first I was surprised by her challenger, but they do have something interesting in common. Terry Dodson is doing the art, while Chris Yost is writing it.

Of course. They're both russian and their last names come from historical figures.



I really don't believe I could wish any harder than I am, for Illyana to come out the victor when facing off against Natasha.

Also?
Some really interesting and well done developments for our Rasputins over in Uncanny #8.
Granted, Illyana didn't rise up and destroy her kidnappers as I would have hoped (per Niels' and my previous collaboration) BUT....it'll do.

As much as I like Magik, I don't think she stands a chance against Black Widow in terms of hand-to-hand combat but at least the Soulsword has an edge.

I found an image from UXN #8 on comicvine and it looks like Illyana's performing a healing spell on Colossus.

[JDUP01]

Did anyone notice that octopus looking thing those creatures were putting on or taking off of Magik? I wonder if that'll develop into something further on down the road.

[yanapryde]

Did anyone notice that octopus looking thing those creatures were putting on or taking off of Magik? I wonder if that'll develop into something further on down the road.

I thought it was a humorous "wink" at the X-Club storyline and that bizarro starfish thing or whatever that Nemesis was wearing. But I guess that's a bit of a stretch.

Question!!!!
At the end of issue 8, while Apex is chatting up Storm and Cyke and we see Yana and Pete to the right....what is Yana doing?
At first, given the subsequent panel of Apex being teleported away, I assumed that maybe she was summoning a stepping disc but...it looks much more as though she is "purging" or "draining" or "removing" that sort of wave of energy off her brother?

But it also --- and this confusion is clearly because its Greg Land -- looks like it has the shape of a body sort of, inside it?
Are my eyes playing tricks?
Help a brother out here, kiddos!

[sunofdarkchild]

Haven't seen the issue yet. Sorry.

You know what I realized? Illyana's stepping disks are like Spot's power, only a thousand times better. She should be unhittable for anything she sees coming.

[yanapryde]

Ques ca se Spot?

[Ingonyama]

Ques ca se Spot?

Spot is a Spider-Man antagonist, a scientist who accidentally fused with a machine (sound familiar?) that makes portals. He can control them through force of will to open anywhere within a limited radius, and even control their size, from little ones that let him punch from a hundred different directions at once, to big ones that can swallow a city.

At least, that's what he was in Spidey's 90s Animated Series.

[sunofdarkchild]

Spot is a Spider-Man antagonist, a scientist who accidentally fused with a machine (sound familiar?) that makes portals. He can control them through force of will to open anywhere within a limited radius, and even control their size, from little ones that let him punch from a hundred different directions at once, to big ones that can swallow a city.

At least, that's what he was in Spidey's 90s Animated Series.

And as long as he didn't overuse his portal creating powers he couldn't be hurt. Any punch would just go through him.

[MuhollandDriver]

Read both Uncanny X-Men and X-Club last night.

Illyana's role in X-Club isn't as big this time around, but I still enjoyed her role. Various scenes of her sitting with her teammates (Storm, Cyclops, Colossus) in the main conference room, teleporting people, things like that. She has a fun expression on her face during the fight scene at the end! Pretty cool that she has a role in this.

As for Uncanny, I am adjusting my mindset to accept her current role for what it is. I was hoping for a revved up costume, some unique teleportation tactics during battle, and fun dialogue with other teammates. Who knows, maybe some of that will manifest in future issues.

Her part in this issue fits her current role. She talked to Cyclops and helped her brother. The cover of the issue, which signified a cool battle between the creatures and the Rasputins, did not happen within the pages.

Something to note? How her face was darkened beneath her hair. Bill Sienkiewicz made that a signature for her. I liked!

Despite not being blown away yet, I still have tons of gratitude for her being in the book that is the highest-selling comic at Marvel. What other New Mutant is being featured in the big VS tie-in for AvX? While going against Black Widow has many scratching heads, it is still pretty cool!

Nonetheless, I admit that I miss her dark witticisms. I also miss her with the New Mutants. Their current arc and the upcoming Journey Into Mystery tie-in would be great for her. She is already sorely missed. Even more, Abnett and Lanning write her quite well. It also hit me that if Jason Aaron had gotten permission to use her, she would have been on the same book as Kitty Pryde! That would have been interesting.

[yanapryde]

MuhollandDriver, fear not for Miss Rasputin.

We've got Dual-Russian-Action coming up, under Yost's pen no less, in AvX tie-ins!
AND Gillen has already gone on record stating that Illyana will "come under hard focus" during his Uncanny issue(s) relating to the event.

Her role has been minimal, but arguably the entire team has shared a balance of "featured purpose" and "background" achievements, respectively.
As deep as my admiration runs for her, as a team member amidst such strong and prominent characters, I'd say we're lucky to have what we're getting.

[Havok83]

Here we go, everyone....

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=37385

Magik is officially in the VS title! At first I was surprised by her challenger, but they do have something interesting in common. Terry Dodson is doing the art, while Chris Yost is writing it.Widow is so gonna get her azz kicked. Why are the proportions so screwy though. Magik looks like a dwarf next to her

[yanapryde]

Widow is so gonna get her azz kicked. Why are the proportions so screwy though. Magik looks like a dwarf next to her

The impecably trained spy assasin taken out by the tiny framed, likely underestimated blonde will make the victory all that much sweeter.

[MuhollandDriver]

MuhollandDriver, fear not for Miss Rasputin.

We've got Dual-Russian-Action coming up, under Yost's pen no less, in AvX tie-ins!
AND Gillen has already gone on record stating that Illyana will "come under hard focus" during his Uncanny issue(s) relating to the event.

Her role has been minimal, but arguably the entire team has shared a balance of "featured purpose" and "background" achievements, respectively.
As deep as my admiration runs for her, as a team member amidst such strong and prominent characters, I'd say we're lucky to have what we're getting.

Awwww thanks! Again, I knew she would not have the same type of role that she had on New Mutants. I wasn't expecting her to be in the same type of spotlight. Her role and her character are just a bit less vivid than I would like. I am still appreciative of her being on the flagship team. That is great! Still, I thought over at the upcoming Asgardian arc with New Mutants and the general wackiness of Wolverine and the X-Men, and I realized that watching Illyana nurse her brother isn't the most interesting thing she could be doing (to me, at least). Hopefully the future issues will change my mind. I really enjoy most of what Kieron Gillen writes.

While I do miss her on New Mutants, it probably is good that some of those characters are getting development without having to depend on her. It is kind of interesting that the three characters who had significant spotlight during the Zeb Wells run (Magik, Cannonball, Karma) are all on bigger titles. Dani is, of course, getting her time in the book. It would be great to see some of them finally immersed in the big teams.

As for the upcoming Black Widow fight? I think that threw everyone for a loop. Still wrapping my head around that one! I honestly don't see how Black Widow could legitimately win, and I say that from an objective viewpoint. Chris Yost is writing it, and he is a big fan of Magik. Nonetheless, Black Widow is appearing in an upcoming blockbuster film. Foils!

[MuhollandDriver]

I apologize for double-posting, but Kieron Gillen offers some information on Magik...

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=37424

[NielsVanEekelen]

Illyana's current role in Uncanny is basically as a supporting character for Colossus's arc. Anytime Gillen writes her, it's spot on and I love her supporting her brother, but agreed--I wish she was doing more of her own stuff as well.

[yanapryde]

As for the upcoming Black Widow fight? I think that threw everyone for a loop. Still wrapping my head around that one! I honestly don't see how Black Widow could legitimately win, and I say that from an objective viewpoint. Chris Yost is writing it, and he is a big fan of Magik. Nonetheless, Black Widow is appearing in an upcoming blockbuster film. Foils!

Interesting counterpoint to bring up...over in the Avengers Thread, a poster cites Yost's involvement with their duel as being a positive sign for Natasha...

Perhaps they know something we don't? Yost has a thing for ALL Russians? hmm...

[MuhollandDriver]

Perhaps they know something we don't? Yost has a thing for ALL Russians? hmm...

That's our answer!

Also, read the link above if you're interested in some mild spoilers on Illyana's predicament in future Uncanny issues.

[yanapryde]

That's our answer!

Also, read the link above if you're interested in some mild spoilers on Illyana's predicament in future Uncanny issues.

Oh please. :wink: ha ha. My buddy Niels had me chomping on that interview moments after it was posted. ha ha ha.
And I could not be more pleased. Can't wait! Can't wait! So Psyched!!

[Peter F.]

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[Havok83]

Illyana is back to being imprisoned? WTF?!?!?

[Kerukun878]

Illyana is back to being imprisoned? WTF?!?!?

If you read the interview you'd know she never stopped.

[Havok83]

If you read the interview you'd know she never stopped.and my reaction is the same

[244]

Illyana is back to being imprisoned? WTF?!?!?

Illyana's only released whenever the Extinction Team are going on missions, when not, she retires to her imprisonment. Cyclops still doesn't trust her even though she hasn't shown any suspicious behavior so far.

[JDUP01]

Dang. At the very least she should have a laptop and a tv. If she does go nuts, it's because she's stuck in that tiny cell.

[244]

Dang. At the very least she should have a laptop and a tv. If she does go nuts, it's because she's stuck in that tiny cell.

If her imprisonment in Limbo during her formative years taught her anything, being imprisoned by the X-men doesn't seemed so bad.

[JDUP01]

If her imprisonment in Limbo during her formative years taught her anything, being imprisoned by the X-men doesn't seemed so bad.

I say jail break. Or make a run for it when they're out and about. No one can stop her except maybe Emma.

[244]

I say jail break. Or make a run for it when they're out and about. No one can stop her except maybe Emma.

I doubt it. She willingly accepted her imprisonment.

[MuhollandDriver]

http://x.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/a/50/4f5a2ef89f268/detail.jpg
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Wow!

The scenes of her in her cell almost made me misty-eyed. That is also hands down one of the best feats with her stepping discs. About every doubt I expressed has been solved with this preview.

[Havok83]

I say jail break. Or make a run for it when they're out and about. No one can stop her except maybe Emma.

Im dissapointed. What the heck does she need to do? At what point does she prove herself? What authority does Cyclops have to keep her imprisoned? I almost wish she had jumped ship and went with Wolverine now. She's been locked up for too long

[244]

Im dissapointed. What the heck does she need to do? At what point does she prove herself? What authority does Cyclops have to keep her imprisoned? I almost wish she had jumped ship and went with Wolverine now. She's been locked up for too long

She wants to prove that she can be trustworthy again. Ever since putting reality in danger by destroying the Elder Gods with Legion's help for the sake of revenge, she's been regarded with fear, and I don't think I can blame the X-men (especially Cyclops), but I feel she has the right for vengeance, yet she accepted responsibility for her actions.

[Havok83]

She wants to prove that she can be trustworthy again. Ever since putting reality in danger by destroying the Elder Gods with Legion's help for the sake of revenge, she's been regarded with fear, and I don't think I can blame the X-men (especially Cyclops), but I feel she has the right for vengeance, yet she accepted responsibility for her actions.I get that but its been a while now. I thought she proved herself in Fear Itself and it looked like she was free but months later and no she's still a prisoner. I hate the fact that he is using her and having her on active duty while threatening to blow her up if she dares use her powers to 'port away. I dont like him taking advantage of her and I wish she'd tell him to F-off and use a damn bus while keeping to herself in her cell. He wants to have his cake and eat it too. She probably could have fled ages ago but chooses to stay and help by being an X-man and hero. I think that should say alot about her intentions and sincerity to do right and good and its a shame that that seems to have gone unnoticed. Seriously. What the hell does she need to do? Take on the Phoenix Force single handely in AvX and win? I bet that probably wouldnt change things

[NielsVanEekelen]

Seriously. What the hell does she need to do? Take on the Phoenix Force single handely in AvX and win? I bet that probably wouldnt change things

Might not change things, but would certainly sell me a lot of comics. :wink:

[MuhollandDriver]

Cyclops has been engaging in behavior that many of his teammates find shady (X-Force, isolation, putting children in danger) and his treatment of Magik might just fall in that category. I believe there will be a big payoff here.

[shades of eternity]

yeah.

honestly, it's only a matter of time before big brother breaks her out and they head somewhere else.

and cyclops detonates that vest...that's a point of no return for everybody involved.

Now I really want the rasputins to go on the run seeing as they are more magical then mutant at this point.

[Darkchild]

poor 'Yanna :( one day you will be free

[MuhollandDriver]

I just love that avatar, Darkchild.

I could see things going a multitude of ways in the future. Kieron Gillen stated again that he is wanting to explore what it means for her to have most of her soul back. I am excited once again!

[Darkchild]

You do?! i was thinking of changing it actually. Haha. I hope we get to see Illyana go on her own mini-adventure in the pages of Uncanny. Maybe team-up with Hope or sthg?

oh and can someone explain me what's that weird platform under the team in the preview?

[sunofdarkchild]

Might not change things, but would certainly sell me a lot of comics. :wink:

If you haven't seen it, check out the Excalibur Time Caper issue. Rachel Grey in Phoenex form tries to fight her, going "Pick on someone you're own size." Illyana brushes her off like a fly. "Hate to break it to you red, but you ain't it!"

That Gillen interview is the first conformation I've seen that she's got most of her soul back. He says it outright.

The preview shows more development for Illyana than we've seen in all of the Uncanny issues so far, and it doesn't have a word of dialogue. Trying to be strong for Jugaloo, bu going back to being sad when he's gone. Pretty emotional stuff. And then she uses her portals more effectively than I believe she has since the 80s.

[sunofdarkchild]

You do?! i was thinking of changing it actually. Haha. I hope we get to see Illyana go on her own mini-adventure in the pages of Uncanny. Maybe team-up with Hope or sthg?

oh and can someone explain me what's that weird platform under the team in the preview?

I think it's just for them to get an arial view of what Terminus wrote. Once the stepping disks are gone they'd fall (most of them, anyway) without something below them. Right afterwards they jump off into stepping disks to go fight.

[MuhollandDriver]

You do?! i was thinking of changing it actually. Haha. I hope we get to see Illyana go on her own mini-adventure in the pages of Uncanny. Maybe team-up with Hope or sthg?

oh and can someone explain me what's that weird platform under the team in the preview?

It might be a platform Magneto created for a better view of the scene below.

Kieron Gillen has stated a few times that she has most of her soul back. He stated it quite clearly in this particular interview. I think "most" is the key word here!

[NielsVanEekelen]

You do?! i was thinking of changing it actually. Haha. I hope we get to see Illyana go on her own mini-adventure in the pages of Uncanny. Maybe team-up with Hope or sthg?

oh and can someone explain me what's that weird platform under the team in the preview?

I just thought of and am now rooting for a team-up with Danger. They're probably spending a lot of time together bonding over the concept of redemption and rehabilitation. Or Magneto, dying to see them rekindle the ol' teacher/student bond.



If you haven't seen it, check out the Excalibur Time Caper issue. Rachel Grey in Phoenex form tries to fight her, going "Pick on someone you're own size." Illyana brushes her off like a fly. "Hate to break it to you red, but you ain't it!"

Ooh, yes. That alternate Illyana was rocking. Evil, but rocking.

[Darkchild]

I just thought of and am now rooting for a team-up with Danger. They're probably spending a lot of time together bonding over the concept of redemption and rehabilitation. Or Magneto, dying to see them rekindle the ol' teacher/student bond.
Yes! I wouldn't mind her interacting with anyone 'xcept her brother to be honest and this's been probably said before but i don't get why isn't she more close with Storm since her Limbo version was her teacher of some sorts.

[Silent Sigh]

http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo304/cpjudd/trial2.jpg

OMG!!
I don't understand why other posters in the thread about Uncanny X-Men # 8 didn't say anything about this page, but it is BEAUTIFUL, really, you are so talented Yanapryde, I easily would buy a X-book illustrated by you, I shared this page on my facebook wall and my friends loved how bad-ass Illyana looks there. Keep doing this kind of work and please share it with us.


Can't wait to read the fight between Illyana and Natasha, I love how Yost writes my favorite bitch <3

[MuhollandDriver]

Yost writes a great Illyana, and he was instrumental in bringing her back on the board. I am excited!

[NielsVanEekelen]

OMG!!
I don't understand why other posters in the thread about Uncanny X-Men # 8 didn't say anything about this page, but it is BEAUTIFUL, really, you are so talented Yanapryde, I easily would buy a X-book illustrated by you, I shared this page on my facebook wall and my friends loved how bad-ass Illyana looks there. Keep doing this kind of work and please share it with us.

Cool!

Be sure to tell all those friends to check the shelves in their comic shops every week for books written by Niels van Eekelen and/or drawn by Christopher Judd! Because we're definitely going to get there eventually!

[GambitXRemy]

has magik ever had a boyfriend

[MuhollandDriver]

None that we know of beyond flirtations.

[GambitXRemy]

i want magik and hope to hang out more

[Leirus]

i want magik and hope to hang out more

Slim chance, Yana is still jailed (http://marvel.com/images/gallery/story/18258/images_from_uncanny_x-men_the_eve_of_avx/image/908921)

[GambitXRemy]

ya i know but i would like them to talk more in uncanny,,, they have a lot in common

[Havok83]

Slim chance, Yana is still jailed (http://marvel.com/images/gallery/story/18258/images_from_uncanny_x-men_the_eve_of_avx/image/908921)

they are still on the same squad. Instead of Magik constantly being paired with Piotr, she could be paired up with Hope once in a while. Ive wanted some Magik and Hope interaction as well. X-23 is another person Ive wanted Hope to connect with since she came back to present day. Id kill to see them in an adventure together, all 3 young bad ass X-girls

[GambitXRemy]

and in reality isnt magik around the same age as hope

[Havok83]

and in reality isnt magik around the same age as hope

She's older. Its hard to say what Magik's actual age is but she is definetly older than 17/18. Id imagine she was that age when she was brought back in New X-men but at the beginning of New Mutants, it was revealed that she spent years in the future looking for her Bloodstones. Id say she is somewhere in her early 20s now