Mutant League 02/03/09 AM Game J: wolvie616 vs. Psy J

[mattbib]

Greeting fight fans! Welcome to today's fight!

Refer to the official League website for rules on voting.
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In the first corner we have wolvie616's FERAL SHADOW:
Wolverine, Professor X (3), Nightcrawler, Pulse, Colossus

vs

Psy J's I SHALL DEFEAT YOU AT THE MONORAIL:
Storm, X-23, Leech, Hub, Havok, Moonstar, King Bedlam

Both participants have submitted strategies:

Please do not post or vote until both strategies have been posted and read.

[mattbib]

we start off in a corner of the room together, since they are fighting as a group because they have a numbers disadvantage. wolverine and nightcrawler take the front line and colussus, pulse, and charles are behind the 2. they know they are in for the fight of their lives, especially because of storm, x-23,havok, and moonstar, who are their friends. they need to take them out before things go south!

oh, and we need to establish that wolverine is arguably the greatest fighter in world and a mster of every fighting styler on earth, plus the other 4 are all highly trained fighters, professor x has extensive knowledge of estern fighgting styles and pressure points, nightcrawler has daredevi lesque acrobatic abilities, colussus is huge and string and knows how to use it, and i believe pulse was trained to fight and has worked with mystique.

therefore, wolverine, night crawler, and proffesor x should be able to do this at least with their skills: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zWG_CDvNus

colussus and pulse should be able to do this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6LHwEkBtoI and much more besides

and wolverine can do, like, everything, such as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0CIy9ZZEQE
and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGjOkNxqXhk
as well as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be-BoM-WokY and much more besides

vital points: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy8vV...xt =1&index=2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy8vV-fw2lk&feature=PlayList&p=C8C09EDBCEBE4015&playnext=1&index=2)

part 1
we start with professor x and nightcrawler go after havok. the rest of the team is back to the back staying alive wolverine is slowly dying and will not seath his claws unless absolutuely necessary since they will die and he does not want that. anyway, nightcrawler flipsand grabs havok, and throws him at professor x, who rams him in the stomach, then nightcrawler holds him, ridding havok of arm usage, and professor x punches him max strength in the foating ribs, where there is a vital point. the impact goes straight to the lungs. even if he stays conscious, he wont be able to move to to the difficult of breathing. for the meantime, havok is down.

we take advantage of this time to have pulse uppercut leech just enough to knock him out since he is a kid. this evens the fight and we have leech knocked out and havok out or unable to move

during this time wolverine is fighting storm and x 23, arguably the most dangerous members of this group with colussus, pulse is fighting king bedlam, and professor x is fighting hub, and nightcrawler is going acro a mano with dani

wolverine tornado kicks storm( tornado kick is a tae kwon do move you often see in movies wher they jump spin and kick the enemy in the head. he then does a back flip and leaves storm to piotr, and wolverine faces down his clone. they no they can show no mercy, because the other one will die. its quite literally that simple. wolverine unsheaths his claws.

END PART 1

CUT TO NIGHTCRAWLER PROFESSOR X AND PULSE

nightcrawler is having fun with this fight. he is switching between savate and boxing in his owns unique acrobatic take on combat. he will take out moonstar with a new technique he has come up with. he is keep ing her at bay with a combo of quick jabs and flurries of kicks. now he does the same throw he used on havok on dani, and throws her at king bedlam. then he uses his new technique on bedlam. he flips on the wall and pushes off, punching him and he lands on hubs shoulders, where he swaps opponents with chuck. he thenflips over her, and clotheslines her when he lands. then he does a final flip, grabs her neck, and squeezes at the trachea, then throwing her. the combonation of chop, grab, crush, and throw knocks out hub.

meanwhile, pulse and moonstar are going at it. pulse is using his unique blend of wrestling and army style boxing to fight a indan/valkyrie/wolverine taught moonstar, who is more than likely more than proficient at fighting opponents larger than her. charles decides to assist pulse, but needs to quickly end the fight without permanently damaging him. he waits until bedlam makes a mistake. it happens. professor ducks from bedlams kick, grabs his foot, and uses his own foot to push at bedlams other kneecap, breaking his leg, taking him out of the fight.

CUT TO colussus vs. storm.

now colussus is no fool. he knows storm is a better hand to hand combatant and tactician than he is. therefore, he is going to rely on wolverine taught judo to hold her off until assistance arrives. it comes in the form of kurt, who trips her with is tail

BACK TO WOLVERINE VS X 23

wolverine needs to end this quick. he has about one more hour before adamantium poisoning kills him.

now there are several ways this can end.

1: he rushes her and slices her legs off. then he cuts her head off

2: if her claws are unsheathed, he jumps and blocks her claws with his and kicks her down. he then stabs her in the stomach, killing her

less lethal ways: wolverine fights defensively. his claws arent unshetathed and when x comes at him, he pos the claws and cuts her joins, immobolizing her.

4. he rushes, slides under her, and smahes her head next to the wall, kocking her out,

there are more besides but the point is, x 23 is out

this leaves storm and moonstar in the fight

professor x and pulse are fighting moonstar

kurt, piotr, and logan vs ororo

END PART 2

Cut TO pulse and prof vs moonstar.

this is going to be a doozy. they need to assist the others against storm, one of the planets greatest tactitians. they need to take down moonstar and now!. they split up and sandwhich her between them. pulse in front is going besrk on her not gicing her an inch. mr. xavier then chops her in the neck hurting her and disorienting her. pulse then uppercuts her and chuck kick her joint, dealing more damage and knocking her out.

they are all against storm, the most dangerous fighter on the other team. they must defeat her to claim victory. nightcrawler is jumping around pressing her. professor x pulse and wolverine are all going up at her. now colussus might have been knocked out by now, so there are 2 ways this is going down

1: wolverine distracts her with another tornado kick. she has to block this, and that is when pulse, porfessor x, and nightcrawler punch her and she is pushed back into colussus. he then grabs her in a bear hold at her armpits so they are open to hit. and wolverine uses is 300 pound weight to hold her legs. she is effectively immobolized. professor x then hits her auxillary nerve. this is the result: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEvT0RXHAMw

2: wolverine backs everyone up.he is going against storm one on one he will be using a combonation of ninjutsu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMOTW...eature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMOTWHnd9X0&feature=related)
and others besides. he starts off with a combonation of afghan kung fu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BakAz...eature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BakAzKLU5io&feature=related) and karate and shaolin kung fu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMJ_b9uV1Lo
this is meant to keep her on her toes. before she can get used to this though he switches to drunken fist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBBE4JjBrO8

he then holds her down with aikido: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aicHsMC6rxM

and while she is down, he pops the claws and cuts her legs joints, ending the fight

now, if havok is back up, they will just rush him

aftermath: they drag all the mutants out of the camp, where elixir is waiting to heal all the injured. powers back, wolverine will not die, nor will x 23

now you may be wondering if this is out of character for these characters to break legs and cut people and all but i do not think it is. wolverine and storm and x 23 all have stated no mercy towards each other countless times

and regarding the rest they fought to immobolize and this was the least harmless way to do this i could think of

oh well, the point is it wasn't out of character in my opinion. match over, we win and all go to see metallica!

[mattbib]

STORM: While King Bedlam and Dani Moonstar take her cape for use in their battle against Xavier, Storm immediately removes her tiara and utilizes it as a weapon against Nightcrawler, hurling it at his head. While Nightcrawler is distracted and all "Was ist das?" Storm takes him by surprise with a brutal sucker punch. Kurt has shown himself to be a skilled fighter, no question there, but the answer you'll get when you ask an X-fan "Which character is known for their ability to win a battle without their mutant powers?" the answer you'll invariably get is STORM. Whether it's Cyclops or Callisto or anyone else, Ororo has demonstrated time and time again that her hand-to-hand combat skills are almost unparalleled.

Although the fight is fierce, Nightcrawler is defeated in the end.

KING BEDLAM and DANI MOONSTAR: The two each take one end of Storm's cape and run after Xavier. They circle around him, entwining him and leaving him unable to move his arms to attack. Moonstar and King Bedlam then take turns punching and kicking him until he's on the ground and too weak to free himself. At this point, King Bedlam delivers one final blow to Xavier's face, knocking him unconscious. Xavier is defeated.

X-23: X-23 chooses to take on Wolverine. Her primary tactic during this match is to avoid Wolverine's offensive attacks because she knows that, unless he feels as though his life is in jeopardy, he will not use deadly force on her. Keeping her claws retracted, she ducks and bobs and sneaks in punches where she can. Although both have enhanced speed and reflexes in their powered states, X-23 is still much quicker because unlike Wolverine, she is not being weighed down by an entire skeleton laced with adamantium. To add to this, unlike Wolverine, Laura was trained as an assassin BEFORE her powers manifested, giving her another advantage in this battle.

When X-23 gains an edge on Wolverine – which is inevitable, as evidenced by their fight in Target X where she bests him – she pops out her claws and begins slicing away at him. After severely crippling him by striking several major muscles and tendons, Wolverine is defeated.

HAVOK: Havok removes his belt and approaches Colossus, whipping at him and smacking him in his sexy face in an effort to confuse him. Shortly, the two begin to exchange blows. Unlike Havok, Colossus has never had to hone his hand-to-hand fighting skills because of the fact that he's essentially a "bruiser" who is impervious to most injury in his steel form. Throughout the battle, Havok alternates between his fists, his feet, and his belt, assaulting Piotr with a barrage of methodical and well-timed attacks. Before long, Colossus falls, defeated.

HUB and LEECH: Hub takes off her cape as well as her sash, handing the latter to Leech. They employ the "towel whip" technique of battle on Pulse, hitting him in the face as a distraction. Between slaps, Hub also takes off her belt. When Pulse runs after the two, Leech trips him (either by kneeling down on the ground in front of him or simply sticking his leg out, whichever is a better idea at that point). As he crashes to the ground, Hub jumps on Pulse's back and uses her belt to bind his hands so that he is incapable of using them in combat. Hub then begins to strike Pulse in his face. Dani Moonstar and King Bedlam will have incapacitated Xavier by this point, so the three then take turns hitting him and keeping him on the floor. (Note: If Storm, Havok, or X-23 have finished their respective battles by this point, they are also ready and able to aid in this fight.) Soon enough, Pulse has been defeated.

[timbox]

X-23 beats Wolverine.

[HellFrost]

Ok... This is an intriguing match.

Psy J get's major points for utilizing his characters accessories.

wolvie, I adore the youtube links... they are very... interesting,.However I feel like we are running into the same problem we had during our match. Logan just seems very out of character.

[HellFrost]

BACK TO WOLVERINE VS X 23

wolverine needs to end this quick. he has about one more hour before adamantium poisoning kills him.

now there are several ways this can end.

1: he rushes her and slices her legs off. then he cuts her head off

2: if her claws are unsheathed, he jumps and blocks her claws with his and kicks her down. he then stabs her in the stomach, killing her

less lethal ways: wolverine fights defensively. his claws arent unshetathed and when x comes at him, he pos the claws and cuts her joins, immobolizing her.

4. he rushes, slides under her, and smahes her head next to the wall, kocking her out,

there are more besides but the point is, x 23 is out

OMG! I totally want to know what more there is!!!!!!!!

[darknessatnoon]

I don't think Wolverine's decapitation of X-23 is out of character at all. She's an armed killer threatening his friends. She needs to be taken out and he's the only one who can do it. He's the best there is at what he does, and what he does isn't very pretty.

[just another user]

match over, we win and all go to see metallica!

This is out of character IMO. Show youtube links as citation that the X Men like Metallica. I am tempted to vote against you for this.

[PhoenixBoyX]

I am an enormous Wolvie fan (which drives Steven crazy). But honestly? I don't believe Logan would do much of what you attribute to him. Yes he's violent when necessary, but he's more like punch someone out (which would work on the healing factor-inhibited powerless X-23) than slice them to pieces, cut out their joints, etc. And I can't remember - without his healing factor, doesn't Logan suffer from adamantium poisioning?

-Nicholas, who can't remember.

[HellFrost]

I don't think Wolverine's decapitation of X-23 is out of character at all. She's an armed killer threatening his friends. She needs to be taken out and he's the only one who can do it. He's the best there is at what he does, and what he does isn't very pretty.

I do. Not once did Laura threaten his life and Logan would sense that. Decapitating her would be out of character for this specific battle. He's also not as fast as her. Just because Logan says he's the best there is at what he does, does not make that statement true. It's like the blob calling himself immovable, it's just a self-proclaimed hyperbole of his own greatness.

[Seres]

Why is Wolvie's team called Feral Shadow, when Feral isn't a member of the team? This seems like a deliberate slight against Swashbuckler.

Also, X-23 is faster and better at fighting than Wolverine. Target X shows this, as well as the Wolverine Manifest Destiny series. I think she'd beat him. She would also be more willing to hurt him than he would her. Logan's gotten soft in his old age.

Good strategies though, y'both!

[Psy J]

aftermath: they drag all the mutants out of the camp, where elixir is waiting to heal all the injured. powers back, wolverine will not die, nor will x 23
After she's decapitated? :eek:

[PhoenixBoyX]

After she's decapitated? :eek:

The whole point is moot considering Elixir isn't on either team.
-Nicholas

[Josef F.]

Excuse me, Storm, beating Nightcrawler.
It is established, as of CC's UXM, that Nightcrawler is still ridiculously athletic and powerful, even without powers.

Nightcrawler could beat Storm with his feet.

[timbox]

Excuse me, Storm, beating Nightcrawler.
It is established, as of CC's UXM, that Nightcrawler is still ridiculously athletic and powerful, even without powers.

Nightcrawler could beat Storm with his feet.

It has been further established that Storm is a top-notch street fighter without her powers. She’d choke Nightcrawler with his own tail.

[Josef F.]

It has been further established that Storm is a top-notch street fighter without her powers. She’d choke Nightcrawler with his own tail.

Nightcrawler would use Storm's weave as a Trapeze

[AcesX1X]

It has been further established that Storm is a top-notch street fighter without her powers. She’d choke Nightcrawler with his own tail.

i endorse this statement.

[just another user]

proffesor x should be able to do this at least with their skills: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zWG_CDvNus

Chuck needs to do this more often in comics. I can't remember the last time he used these skills. Maybe it's in an issue I don't have.

[darknessatnoon]

Chuck needs to do this more often in comics. I can't remember the last time he used these skills. Maybe it's in an issue I don't have.

You just revealed your ignorance. Read Legacy for once.

[just another user]

You just revealed your ignorance. Read Legacy for once.

as I said, maybe it's an issue I don't have. You just displayed your lack of reading comprehension

[timbox]

You just revealed your ignorance. Read Legacy for once.

Meanwhile, you voted that a monkey could beat the Panther Goddess in hand-to-hand combat.

[darknessatnoon]

Meanwhile, you voted that a monkey could beat the Panther Goddess in hand-to-hand combat.

If Storm wants to lick Nightcrawler, that's fine. I just don't think it would win her the battle.

[Josef F.]

Nightcrawler is a real furry.

[PhoenixBoyX]

It has been further established that Storm is a top-notch street fighter without her powers. She’d choke Nightcrawler with his own tail.

I'd gladly pay to watch this. Cause A) I don't like Nightcrawler and B) This brings me to a Dave Chappelle-show type moment (the one with Wayne Brady) and it reads "Is 'Roro Munroe gonna have to choke a mutie?" and I have a good laugh.
-Nicholas

[Stephen Moreno]

I think wolvie616 has the better trained hand to hand combat fighters so I give it to him.

Wolverine vs X-23 I think is taken by Wolverine.
Storm vs Colossus and Nightcrawler I think is taken by those two, two men vs one woman doesn't seem like much of a fight to me.

[HellFrost]

I think wolvie616 has the better trained hand to hand combat fighters so I give it to him.

Wolverine vs X-23 I think is taken by Wolverine.
Storm vs Colossus and Nightcrawler I think is taken by those two, two men vs one woman doesn't seem like much of a fight to me.

Better trained but not better utilized. Psy J has Ororo, Laura, Alex, and Dani. He also gives his other characters a way to make up for their lack of martial arts skills.

[darknessatnoon]

Better trained but not better utilized. Psy J has Ororo, Laura, Alex, and Dani. He also gives his other characters a way to make up for their lack of martial arts skills.

Wrapping people up in capes is not a way to make up for martial artist skills. Charles is skilled enough to evade a cape.

[Stephen Moreno]

Better trained but not better utilized. Psy J has Ororo, Laura, Alex, and Dani. He also gives his other characters a way to make up for their lack of martial arts skills.

I think X-23 and Storm are the main threats given their training and I think who wolvie puts against them is perfectly accepectable.

[HellFrost]

Wrapping people up in capes is not a way to make up for martial artist skills. Charles is skilled enough to evade a cape.
I don't agree. I don't think Xavier would be able to evade any of it much at all. Storms cape is huge. I can't imagine him easily evading it unless he can perform some incredible gymnastic feats.

I think X-23 and Storm are the main threats given their training and I think who wolvie puts against them is perfectly accepectable.

So all of wolvies people find their targets, but non of Psy J's do? I think your logic is flawed. Ororo get's Kurts attention in the beggining of the match. And Colossus will be slightly distracted with Alex coming at him swinging a belt in his face.

[Stephen Moreno]

So all of wolvies people find their targets, but non of Psy J's do? I think your logic is flawed. Ororo get's Kurts attention in the beggining of the match. And Colossus will be slightly distracted with Alex coming at him swinging a belt in his face.

Alex is kind of a tiny fella and Colossus isn't, that's not a fight it's a mercy slap.

Yea I do think wolvie's targets get there's, that's the point of these things, you match up the strats and figure who beats who, I did, I came out with wolvie, you disagree, good for us.

[darknessatnoon]

I don't agree. I don't think Xavier would be able to evade any of it much at all. Storms cape is huge. I can't imagine him easily evading it unless he can perform some incredible gymnastic feats.




I'm sorry, but that's patently ridiculous. If it's so huge, then Storm is ridiculously weighted down in every battle. Sorry, but just NO.

[timbox]

Xavier could not escape from a cape, that is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. He's a cripple. A powerless cripple.

[darknessatnoon]

Xavier could not escape from a cape, that is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. He's a cripple. A powerless cripple.

It's out of character for Storm to choke a cripple with her cape.

[Stephen Moreno]

Xavier could not escape from a cape, that is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. He's a cripple. A powerless cripple.

Xavier was recently saved by the Goddess Wanda and given back the use of his legs. I think he can easily stand up and beat a cape.

[timbox]

It's out of character for Storm to choke a cripple with her cape.

No it's not. She used to choke Yukio all the time.

[timbox]

Xavier was recently saved by the Goddess Wanda and given back the use of his legs. I think he can easily stand up and beat a cape.

He also has a severe mental handicap. I think you need to reread Legacy. I'm embarrassed that I even need to argue these points with dn@n.

[Stephen Moreno]

He also has a severe mental handicap. I think you need to reread Legacy. I'm embarrassed that I even need to argue these points with dn@n.

He has managed just find on his journey of rediscovery it should be no problem defeating those he helped train.

[HellFrost]

Alex is kind of a tiny fella and Colossus isn't, that's not a fight it's a mercy slap.

...Alex is a tiny fella? This has to be the most ridiculous thing I've read in this entire thread. Even more so than Wolverine's decapitation of X-23 and chopping her legs off.

Yea I do think wolvie's targets get there's, that's the point of these things, you match up the strats and figure who beats who, I did, I came out with wolvie, you disagree, good for us.

Yes. I do disagree. And so do most voters apparently.

[darknessatnoon]

Yes. I do disagree. And so do most voters apparently.

This little contest has barely gotten underway. Don't count your chickens before they've hatched.

[HellFrost]

It's out of character for Storm to choke a cripple with her cape.
It's a good thing she isn't doing that in the strategy then.
Xavier was recently saved by the Goddess Wanda and given back the use of his legs. I think he can easily stand up and beat a cape.
A cape made out of the same material that can withstand bullets? A material that is incredibly light and almost as strong as steal (material was described as such in X-treme X-Men). I don't think you're giving Moonstar and King Bedlam enough credit as well.

[darknessatnoon]

A cape made out of the same material that can withstand bullets? A material that is incredibly light and almost as strong as steal (material was described as such in X-treme X-Men). I don't think you're giving Moonstar and King Bedlam enough credit as well.

If King Bedlam is the same person as Jesse Bedlam, then I give him no credit whatsoever.

[HellFrost]

This little contest has barely gotten underway. Don't count your chickens before they've hatched.

Another rude post from you? How shocking.

[HellFrost]

If King Bedlam is the same person as Jesse Bedlam, then I give him no credit whatsoever.

King Bedlam (http://uncannyxmen.net/glossary/showentry.asp?fldAuto=618)

[darknessatnoon]

Another rude post from you? How shocking.

If you think that was rude then you're truly a sensitive soul.

[Psy J]

Wrapping people up in capes is not a way to make up for martial artist skills. Charles is skilled enough to evade a cape.
And martial arts skills are not enough to make up for the inability to walk. :frown:

[Mitsaso]

Don't fight, you guys!

let's all have sex instead! :biggrin:

[HellFrost]

Don't fight, you guys!

let's all have sex instead! :biggrin:

BUKKAKE!!!!!!!!!:biggrin:

[darknessatnoon]

And martial arts skills are not enough to make up for the inability to walk. :frown:

Charles can walk. Don't be ridiculous.

[Psy J]

Charles can walk. Don't be ridiculous.
He attempts to walk. But then he's in the bathroom and he falls over and Jubilee has to help him up and it's awkward for everyone.

[Agent_Torpor]

Charles can walk. Don't be ridiculous.

Ask Lilandra all about his third leg. The man gets around, don't worry about that.

And I vote for anyone who endorses X-23's decapitation.

[just another user]

Despite the out of character Metallica concert moment, I decided to vote Wolvie616 - Feral Shadow

[Josef F.]

It's a good thing she isn't doing that in the strategy then.

A cape made out of the same material that can withstand bullets? A material that is incredibly light and almost as strong as steal (material was described as such in X-treme X-Men). I don't think you're giving Moonstar and King Bedlam enough credit as well.

That was another cape.
She is now wearing a large Khaki curtain.

I am sad that her shoe-Knives were not utilised.

[HellFrost]

That was another cape.
She is now wearing a large Khaki curtain.

I am sad that her shoe-Knives were not utilised.

I'm pretty sure that all the X-Men's costumes are made from the same material.

She has shoe knives...? That part I don't remember, but that would have been really cool.

[Agent_Torpor]

LOL! I forgot about her shoeknives in her Hot Topic-bought mallpunk faux-leather laceup boots. From the new Avril Lavigne pink heart punk line.

[Josef F.]

Storm's costume s Wakandan.
It is different to all of the other costumes.
It is earthier.

[AcesX1X]

....


i agree with mitsaso.
hello, mitsaso.

back on topic, wolvie616 clearly has the best strategy. i love how he uses the professor in really interesting ways here...and it's not really out of character for him at all.

also, wolvie616, thank you for the youtube links and brutal play by wolverine.

king bedlam stands no chance in this sort of match.

storm only uses her cape to disarm people. please reference the time she took callisto's knife away during battle with her cape. any other use is out of character.

[HellFrost]

Storm's costume s Wakandan.
It is different to all of the other costumes.
It is earthier.

She has 2 current costumes. Both are going to be made to give her the best protection possible... at least what covers her will.

[$5 Milkshake]

I voted Wolvie616. I liked it all! The opening explanation that Wolverine is the best evar, Professor X: Master of Kung Fu, Wolverine unleashing his tumbling skills, the slicing of joints....I loved it all.

[darknessatnoon]

I voted Wolvie616. I liked it all! The opening explanation that Wolverine is the best evar, Professor X: Master of Kung Fu, Wolverine unleashing his tumbling skills, the slicing of joints....I loved it all.

What about the part where he tells is that "collosus is huge and strong and knows how to use it?" That got me hot!

[Jack Flash]

i don't see that Alex would ever be able to beat Piotr. and I think Psy J underestimates Prof. He can walk these days. I must think on this one, but it feels like Wolvie might have actually taken this one. and that really pains me.

[Josef F.]

She has 2 current costumes. Both are going to be made to give her the best protection possible... at least what covers her will.

Storm's current cosume is a testament to form over function.

[$5 Milkshake]

What about the part where he tells is that "collosus is huge and strong and knows how to use it?" That got me hot!

LMAO! I forgot that part in my brief summery.

[Jessica Drew]

I'm not so sure that Wolverine would go so quickly for the kill like that in this type of situation, but I'm not positive that he wouldn't, either.

Since we've never seen the two do battle, we can't say for sure who would win between Ororo and Kurt, but if I had to place a bet on that particular match (with the two being w/o powers), then I'm pushing my chips to the square that contains the one with the prehensile tail.

I'm also betting that Piotr takes Alex.

So, based on this conjecture, I'm giving this one to wolvie616.

[wolvie616]

did my disclaimer on why they are not out of characther make no sense? as per x force, laura is a killing machine and wolverine knows it. and notice there were other ways to beat her besides decapitation.

and like i said, they are stopping them in the quickest way possible and were healed at the end of the match die to elixir. he is wolverines man and cyclops and could easily be there.

[PhoenixBoyX]

did my disclaimer on why they are not out of characther make no sense? as per x force, laura is a killing machine and wolverine knows it. and notice there were other ways to beat her besides decapitation.

and like i said, they are stopping them in the quickest way possible and were healed at the end of the match die to elixir. he is wolverines man and cyclops and could easily be there.

Except Elixir isn't there. You don't have him on your team. He cannot heal people. If that were the case, I would have Monet, Cap, and Cannonball beat everyone to near death and have Elixir heal them after the fact, scared they could die. I would also have Wanda waiting to reset reality in case of an emergency.

I admit, PsyJ's strat isn't perfect. I'm just surprised Wolvie616's strat is doing so well, since it sort of reads like a Liefeld comic. Wolvie is one of my all-time favorite characters, he really is, but I am stymied a bit by Wolverine as the single-all-time-greatest-most-unstoppable ninja of all time capible of all of these things, as are all of these other characters. I just find Wolvie616's strategy overly violent, relying on physical abilities we never really see, using a character they don't have access to in order to excuse the bizarre level of violence rather than think of ways to properly take down the opposition.

Fact is Wolverine wouldn't likely slice Laura up, considering for the sake of the battle she just has to be unconscious, and if he does, she's dead. You've killed her. Xavier, Colossus, Nightcrawler are cool to watch Logan chop a young girl to pieces. You don't have Elixir, she's dead, and frankly, if we had access to a healer or whatnot after the fact, I'd've written everyone of my strategies differently.

-Nicholas, who is actually a bit annoyed that he evidently could've had characters behaving too violently for the sake of winning the battle, and excuse it by including a character I didn't have access to.

[wolvie616]

Except Elixir isn't there. You don't have him on your team. He cannot heal people. If that were the case, I would have Monet, Cap, and Cannonball beat everyone to near death and have Elixir heal them after the fact, scared they could die. I would also have Wanda waiting to reset reality in case of an emergency.

I admit, PsyJ's strat isn't perfect. I'm just surprised Wolvie616's strat is doing so well, since it sort of reads like a Liefeld comic. Wolvie is one of my all-time favorite characters, he really is, but I am stymied a bit by Wolverine as the single-all-time-greatest-most-unstoppable ninja of all time capible of all of these things, as are all of these other characters. I just find Wolvie616's strategy overly violent, relying on physical abilities we never really see, using a character they don't have access to in order to excuse the bizarre level of violence rather than think of ways to properly take down the opposition.

Fact is Wolverine wouldn't likely slice Laura up, considering for the sake of the battle she just has to be unconscious, and if he does, she's dead. You've killed her. Xavier, Colossus, Nightcrawler are cool to watch Logan chop a young girl to pieces. You don't have Elixir, she's dead, and frankly, if we had access to a healer or whatnot after the fact, I'd've written everyone of my strategies differently.

-Nicholas, who is actually a bit annoyed that he evidently could've had characters behaving too violently for the sake of winning the battle, and excuse it by including a character I didn't have access to.

i see what you mean, but like i said, wolverine knows she needs to be brought down quick, and like i said, i showed 4 ways to beat her, if you want i will pm you more, and besides, wolverine is far more experienced

and this is AFTER the fight is over elixir comes. they move them, call eilixir up. you need to remember elixir is a member of wolverines personal hit squad, and would know where he is, and call him up

[darknessatnoon]

i see what you mean, but like i said, wolverine knows she needs to be brought down quick, and like i said, i showed 4 ways to beat her, if you want i will pm you more, and besides, wolverine is far more experienced

and this is AFTER the fight is over elixir comes. they move them, call eilixir up. you need to remember elixir is a member of wolverines personal hit squad, and would know where he is, and call him up

You are answering this the wrong way.

X-23's head would just grow back.

[PhoenixBoyX]

i see what you mean, but like i said, wolverine knows she needs to be brought down quick, and like i said, i showed 4 ways to beat her, if you want i will pm you more, and besides, wolverine is far more experienced

and this is AFTER the fight is over elixir comes. they move them, call eilixir up. you need to remember elixir is a member of wolverines personal hit squad, and would know where he is, and call him up

And you need to know then, since Marvel Girl was on Excalibur, and Captain Britain led Excalibur, next match when Marvel Grey is against Captain Britain, he should just tell her what to do, and she'd listen, since you know, they were on the same team. You excuse the merciless violence of your strategy which isn't limited Wolvie v Laura (including breaking legs and kneecaps) by an afternote iinvolving a character you don't have access to. Your strategy devolves to needless violence rather than attempts to use the characters and think, and plot, and plan. It's just savage fighting and no matter how much you write "this is in character because..." it's not.

Quick isn't the same as right, well, or intelligent. You are now saying "decapitation isn't the only way" problem is, you put it. It's now there. PM me all the ways you want, they aren't in the strategy.
-Nicholas

[Prodigy55]

It is a life or death situation.
X-23 wouldn't hesitate to kill.
So Wolverine had to take her out.

[wolvie616]

You are answering this the wrong way.

X-23's head would just grow back.

maybe when they leave hte camp and their abilities are restored

but like i said, i showed 4 out of many ways to beat her

[PhoenixBoyX]

It is a life or death situation.
X-23 wouldn't hesitate to kill.
So Wolverine had to take her out.

I believe it's not, actually. Otherwise, Psylocke throwing Leach and Dani Moonstar into the river to die wouldn't have been a point of contention. If it's to the death, everytime, then we're not using the characters, we're just using their powers, in which case, their knowledge of ninja skills don't actually matter. It's not life or death, otherwise we wouldn't have matches - the most powerful characters (Xavier, Apocalypse, Emma Frost) just kills everyone each match.

-Nicholas, who is confused at a lot of people.

[wolvie616]

And you need to know then, since Marvel Girl was on Excalibur, and Captain Britain led Excalibur, next match when Marvel Grey is against Captain Britain, he should just tell her what to do, and she'd listen, since you know, they were on the same team. You excuse the merciless violence of your strategy which isn't limited Wolvie v Laura (including breaking legs and kneecaps) by an afternote iinvolving a character you don't have access to. Your strategy devolves to needless violence rather than attempts to use the characters and think, and plot, and plan. It's just savage fighting and no matter how much you write "this is in character because..." it's not.

Quick isn't the same as right, well, or intelligent. You are now saying "decapitation isn't the only way" problem is, you put it. It's now there. PM me all the ways you want, they aren't in the strategy.
-Nicholas

let us agree to disagree then

[PhoenixBoyX]

let us agree to disagree then

Absolutely fair.

-Nicholas, who is glad Wolvie is a good sport. :smile:

[wolvie616]

Absolutely fair.

-Nicholas, who is glad Wolvie is a good sport. :smile:


glad you are too:biggrin:

well anyways, i need to go to bed, so this will most likely be my last comment

so vote..... for me...... i guess

well hopefully me:tongue:

[Psy J]

It is a life or death situation.
Er, says who? Nothing in Matt's description of this battle stipulates that it's different from any of the other fights (besides the obvious lack of superhuman abilities).

There was a humongous outcry when wolvie616's first strategy included Wolverine shredding Monet St. Croix into ribbons. It's kind of dumbfounding that the concept of Logan decapitating his star pupil hasn't warranted the same reaction.

X-23 wouldn't hesitate to kill. So Wolverine had to take her out.
In the books, X-23 probably WOULDN'T hesitate to kill. But this isn't the books. In my strategy it's clearly stated that she purposely avoids using lethal force in an effort to prevent Logan from doing the same.

i don't see that Alex would ever be able to beat Piotr.
I think it's within the realm of possibility. Think about it: Piotr has spent his entire mutant life relying on his steel form. If he ever sensed that he was in the slightest bit of danger, he turned to metal, shrugged off whatever assault anyone attempted on him, then pummeled the person into the ground.

Havok has never had that advantage. He's always had to make sure that his fighting skills were at their peak in order to simply survive.

I think Psy J underestimates Prof. He can walk these days.
I know that he can walk. It's never said in my strategy that he can't. But Dani Moonstar and Bedlam are no easy takedowns, either. Moonstar has proven herself on numerous occasions to be a skilled fighter and King Bedlam is a lumbering hulk of a man (certainly taller and heavier than Xavier).

[Josef F.]

X-23 is a clone.
Everyone says they're not important, and X-force kill them regularly.

[PhoenixBoyX]

I think it's within the realm of possibility. Think about it: Piotr has spent his entire mutant life relying on his steel form. If he ever sensed that he was in the slightest bit of danger, he turned to metal, shrugged off whatever assault anyone attempted on him, then pummeled the person into the ground.

Havok has never had that advantage. He's always had to make sure that his fighting skills were at their peak in order to simply survive.

I follow that logic. Completely.
-Nicholas, who thinks that this point has been sorrily overlooked, and believes the same logic applies to Wolverine.

[ChaZ X]

Okay so I admit I'm new here. been reading all the mutan t league stuff for about a week and decided to finally say some stuff.

Isn't the point of this to figure out a strategy to beat your opponent's using your characters abilities and limitations versus your opponents? and when there is contention, to cite instances from the actual material said characters originate?
So... How does showing Youtube videos of different martial artists doing things and then saying "the character does that" work for it and earn more votes?

Also is it supposed to be more about who has the better strategy within the the boundries of their characters or who has the "Better" Characters in the first place? "Wolverine can do anything and take down anyone cause he's the best there is at what he does, yadda yadda. This other guys sucks cause he was created by Liefeld and as such can never beat anyone Cool"

Not Meaning to pick on Wolvie there but really, most of his badassedness is that he never stays down. While he may know some chop socky he cannot know every single martial arts move ever created. He's Not Batman.

Also I personally don't think a match should be decided by the fact that one character has guns but hey vote how ya want. Sorry but I was rooting for the Mighty Sack and I should have got on sooner

[Psy J]

Isn't the point of this to figure out a strategy to beat your opponent's using your characters abilities and limitations versus your opponents? and when there is contention, to cite instances from the actual material said characters originate? So... How does showing Youtube videos of different martial artists doing things and then saying "the character does that" work for it and earn more votes?
Precisely. Need proof that Laura could conceivably take Logan in a fight? Here you go (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=3919). No conjecture or martial arts demonstration videos.

[darknessatnoon]

Precisely. Need proof that Laura could conceivably take Logan in a fight? Here you go (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=3919). No conjecture or martial arts demonstration videos.

X-23 stood up to Logan once! And that was when he thought it was just some girl, not a rabid killer. I promise you that she wouldn't survive a rematch.

[timbox]

X-23 stood up to Logan once! And that was when he thought it was just some girl, not a rabid killer. I promise you that she wouldn't survive a rematch.

Wolverine knew exactly who she was. Sarah Kinney's love letters to him included a complete report on X-23, she knows that Wolverine has a child-killer fetish.

This battle is a mockery to the Mutant League. Psy J's strategy is clearly superior.

[HellFrost]

Wolverine knew exactly who she was. Sarah Kinney's love letters to him included a complete report on X-23, she knows that Wolverine has a child-killer fetish.

This battle is a mockery to the Mutant League. Psy J's strategy is clearly superior.

I agree.

People seem to be more enamored with the decapitation of X-23 and the violence than care about the actual strategies. A shame for both contestants.

[darknessatnoon]

I agree.

People seem to be more enamored with the decapitation of X-23 and the violence than care about the actual strategies. A shame for both contestants.

People seem to be nitpicking the decapitation of X-23 as "overly violent" from someone who regularly maims and decapitates his enemies. It's a shame as it detracts from the appreciation of both strategies.

[timbox]

The decapitation is irrelevant as it would never be executed. X-23 has been shown to be superior to Wolverine in every situation. Reference the bear fight in Target X for straight hand-to-hand combat.

[Psy J]

This battle is a mockery to the Mutant League. Psy J's strategy is clearly superior.
Exactly. It's unfortunate when a strategy receives votes as a joke simply because the people voting think that it would be "funny" if said strategy were to win.

People seem to be nitpicking the decapitation of X-23 as "overly violent" from someone who regularly maims and decapitates his enemies. It's a shame as it detracts from the appreciation of both strategies.
Okay. I'd like to amend my strategy, then: Sage is waiting on the sidelines (since we're now allowed to utilize characters who aren't on our teams) where she kickstarts X-23's healing factor. X-23 then pops her claws and cuts everyone from the opposing team in half.

Tada. The sad part is that that probably would have won.

[just another user]

People seem to be more enamored with the decapitation of X-23 and the violence than care about the actual strategies. A shame for both contestants.

Exactly. It's unfortunate when a strategy receives votes as a joke simply because the people voting think that it would be "funny" if said strategy were to win.

Sorry, I think you are both being unkind. Feral Shadow isn't a "joke strategy". I read through both of them and I think that team has the edge, and I voted accordingly. At the moment 18 other people have voted the same way and it sounds like you are calling them all out. Psy J has provided a good strategy too, but Wolvie has put a lot of work into his, and if he does end up winning, there is no shame in losing to him.

[HellFrost]

Sorry, I think you are both being unkind. Feral Shadow isn't a "joke strategy". I read through both of them and I think that team has the edge, and I voted accordingly. At the moment 18 other people have voted the same way and it sounds like you are calling them all out. Psy J has provided a good strategy too, but Wolvie has put a lot of work into his, and if he does end up winning, there is no shame in losing to him.

No no no. What is "unkind" is the fact that people actually voted against Psy J for who is on his team then whether or not his strat was better.

[just another user]

No no no. What is "unkind" is the fact that people actually voted against Psy J for who is on his team then whether or not his strat was better.

How do you know why people voted? That works both ways. Timbox only voted for Psy J because X 23 is on that team.

[timbox]

How do you know why people voted? That works both ways. Timbox only voted for Psy J because X 23 is on that team.

Haven’t you ever heard of secret ballot!? Free country, and all of that.

[Jack Flash]

No no no. What is "unkind" is the fact that people actually voted against Psy J for who is on his team then whether or not his strat was better.

i don't know if that's fair. There were actually two good strats both with some major flaws in this round. and folks vote based on who is on the team in every match I've viewed this year. I think I may be done with Mutant League stuff. This is really ugly.

[HellFrost]

How do you know why people voted? That works both ways. Timbox only voted for Psy J because X 23 is on that team.

People stated as much.

And timbox gave actual reasons for voting the way they did. When someone states, "Ill vote any team that has the decapitation of X-23," what do you take that as?

I'm only upset because I know I wouldn't like it if it was done to me. It's unfair to both contestants.

[darknessatnoon]

No no no. What is "unkind" is the fact that people actually voted against Psy J for who is on his team then whether or not his strat was better.

Who is on his team is irrelevant, and I seem to recall a message from the Dazzler fanclub on facebook promoting Psy J's team because of who was on it ("Dazzler friendly characters" or some such nonsense). I voted on the basis of a convincing and fleshed out strategy.

So take your tone and shove it.

[timbox]

I voted on the basis of a convincing and fleshed out strategy.


I hardly think you're qualified to make such judgments.

[darknessatnoon]

I hardly think you're qualified to make such judgments.

I think you should take your lack of tone and shove it.

[timbox]

I think you should take your lack of tone and shove it.

You would be brilliant at Mutant League. I see why you voted the way you did.

[darknessatnoon]

You would be brilliant at Mutant League. I see why you voted the way you did.

Next year let's team up.

[timbox]

Next year let's team up.

Submit an example strategy to my secretary and I will consider it.

[darknessatnoon]

Submit an example strategy to my secretary and I will consider it.

Swashbuckler will be receiving an email shortly.

[mattbib]

Final score is 18:15.

Congratulations to wolvie616 who advances on to Game L where he'll take on Mitsaso next Wednesday.

Great job to Psy J, but unfortunately this is his team's second defeat which means he's eliminated.

[HellFrost]

Who is on his team is irrelevant, and I seem to recall a message from the Dazzler fanclub on facebook promoting Psy J's team because of who was on it ("Dazzler friendly characters" or some such nonsense). I voted on the basis of a convincing and fleshed out strategy.

So take your tone and shove it.

I see nothing wrong with people promoting teams. We all do that in our sigs or avatars. Hell! Justin is practically promoting mine whether he realized it or not.

And I apologize for my tone. I was just frustrated. Since the match is over now I extend my congratulations to wolvie.:smile:

[Flâneur]

wolvie, this bitterness is what happens when you don't put out. You understand that, right?

[DeniseXfrost]

Next year let's team up.
I'll join as well :biggrin:

[timbox]

I'll join as well :biggrin:

Is a 3-way permitted?

[Flâneur]

Is a 3-way permitted?

Denise has sufficient orifices, I'm sure.

[darknessatnoon]

Is a 3-way permitted?

We should be separate teams. I would like to fight denise and you. Of course, you are more popular and you would win, but I won't be crying foul. denise will scream like a bitch when she loses, though. It will be fun to watch.

[DeniseXfrost]

Is a 3-way permitted?
Stop making me blush Timbox :tongue:

[DeniseXfrost]

We should be separate teams. I would like to fight denise and you. Of course, you are more popular and you would win, but I won't be crying foul. denise will scream like a bitch when she loses, though. It will be fun to watch.
I won't enter unless I have a partner. I'm too lazy to write...

[darknessatnoon]

I won't enter unless I have a partner. I'm too lazy to write...

You and wolvie could partner up.

[$5 Milkshake]

I voted based on entertainment. Wolvie's strat had me giggling the whole way through, it was fun to read. Much more fun than the typical. And really, its not as if he didn't put lots of effort into his match.

I feel no shame in my vote!

[DeniseXfrost]

You and wolvie could partner up.
but I want to draft Emma frost!

[timbox]

I'm drafting Emma. I will get first pick.

[DeniseXfrost]

I'm drafting Emma. I will get first pick.
whose cocks have you been sucking lately?

[timbox]

No need to get jealous, Violet.

[DeniseXfrost]

No need to get jealous, Violet.
Oh you do not want Violet to come out now!

[timbox]

Oh you do not want Violet to come out now!

Oh I think I do.

[DeniseXfrost]

Oh I think I do.
Stop spamming, Timbox.

[timbox]

Stop spamming, Timbox.

Stop responding, DeniseXfrost.

[DeniseXfrost]

Stop responding, DeniseXfrost.
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2640/officepaperclipue6ri9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[timbox]

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2640/officepaperclipue6ri9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

You already annoy me, every day.

[wolvie616]

sorry you had to be eliminated psy j.:frown:


oh well, now mitsato..... must reasearch who is on his team

[DeniseXfrost]

You already annoy me, every day.
My pleasure.

[darknessatnoon]

My pleasure.

Too late. You fail.