View Full Version : Would Cyclops ever participate in a Illuminati?
Wind-Breaker
02-02-2009, 08:04 PM
When Emma and Xaiver joined their respective cabals, they were shoe-ins due to their manipulative nature. But if asked by somebody from the good-natured illuminati (Stark and Co) or the shady illuminati (Osborn and Co) would Scott ever be apart of such activity? Especially if joining such cabals could benefit mutantkind like it was somewhat illustrated in both incidents?
This subject has been touched a little bit on in other threads, and I honest don't know if he would or not based what I've seen so far.
wolvie616
02-02-2009, 08:18 PM
i think cyclops is way to prideful to look at homo sapiens for help!
*magneto the second*
Cayman
02-02-2009, 08:20 PM
No, they are for smart characters.
Omega Alpha
02-02-2009, 08:24 PM
Depends. In the case of Osborn's cabal, he wouldn't. He could even go, but only as a way of trying to take it down. Whether if it was him the invited (which Osborn would know better) or if Emma simply have told him, he would most likely try to come up with a plan of exposing it to the world, even if risked his life.
As for the original Illuminati, yeah, probably not. I could see his reaction being similar to T'challa's, simply walking out.
DarthCyclopsRLZ
02-02-2009, 08:24 PM
Nope.
Cyke ain't a schemer.
HellFrost
02-02-2009, 08:32 PM
Nope.
Cyke ain't a schemer.
LOL. X-Force:wink:
DarthCyclopsRLZ
02-02-2009, 08:34 PM
LOL. X-Force:wink:
Scheming and/or trying to manipulate the world into being one's b**ch is kind of a step above having a death squad, really. :tongue:
wolvie616
02-02-2009, 08:37 PM
in my opinion, right now cyclops is just like magneto: only caring for mutants and species and will do it no matter what
filthy hypocrite:evilangry:
DarthCyclopsRLZ
02-02-2009, 08:39 PM
in my opinion, right now cyclops is just like magneto: only caring for mutants and species and will do it no matter what
filthy hypocrite:evilangry:
Dunno. SF is still standing, isn't it? :biggrin:
The Black Guardian
02-02-2009, 09:24 PM
Would he? Yes. In fact, he's lived nearly half of his life in one.
No, they are for smart characters.
You took the words right out of my mouth. For all his brooding. Scott's not that smart.
AcesX1X
02-02-2009, 10:44 PM
cyclops has been in an 'illuminati' since xavier recruited him into his little task force.
or did you all forget all those little 'war room' sessions he'd always pipe up in, often leading the discussion.
what did you think that was? LOL
HellFrost
02-02-2009, 11:08 PM
You took the words right out of my mouth. For all his brooding. Scott's not that smart.
Except that he is highly intelligent. He's especially one of the most talented tactical leaders in the MU.
It sounds as though you're allowing your dislike of the character color your judgement and opinion on them.
The Black Guardian
02-02-2009, 11:16 PM
Scott is a great tactician, but a horrible sociologist.
nikbackm
02-03-2009, 03:41 AM
Depends. In the case of Osborn's cabal, he wouldn't. He could even go, but only as a way of trying to take it down. Whether if it was him the invited (which Osborn would know better) or if Emma simply have told him, he would most likely try to come up with a plan of exposing it to the world, even if risked his life.
He might not join Norman's Cabal, but I doubt he'd try to take it down if it endangered mutant kind in any way (which it surely would). And who's to say he might not work with them for a while? If he can form his own death-squad to ensure the continuation of the species this should not be such a stretch either. Assuming of course he perceives their intentions as relatively rational, and not being out to destroy/conquer the world or anything like that.
Before M-day he would of course not even have considered it.
worstblogever
02-03-2009, 03:43 AM
When Scott, Hank, Emma and Warren plot out what they're doing in San Francisco using their funds and resources, as well as scientific know-how, and manpower... what would you call that?
darknessatnoon
02-03-2009, 06:28 AM
Cyclops would never join a cabal, but he would join a junta.
Charybdis4
02-03-2009, 06:36 AM
He probably would join, thinking it was some high class lap dancing club.....
timbox
02-03-2009, 06:47 AM
If Emma told him to.
Grapeweasel
02-03-2009, 07:01 AM
I'm pretty sure he's participating in this one.
What Emma knows, he knows...
Twisted Bliss
02-03-2009, 07:40 AM
Is Illuminati the same as Bukkake ??
Except that he is highly intelligent. He's especially one of the most talented tactical leaders in the MU.
It sounds as though you're allowing your dislike of the character color your judgement and opinion on them.
I will admit that I dislike the character, however he has never struck me as very intelligent. Cyclops might be good a good 'tactical' leader in terms of mapping out certain activities and doing things piecemeal that will lead to a specific conclusion. However he is not a strategist in that he is a big picture. I don't think that it is an accident that he has never been invited to join any of the secret Illuminatti organisations.
Jmacq1
02-03-2009, 08:01 AM
I will admit that I dislike the character, however he has never struck me as very intelligent. Cyclops might be good a good 'tactical' leader in terms of mapping out certain activities and doing things piecemeal that will lead to a specific conclusion. However he is not a strategist in that he is a big picture. I don't think that it is an accident that he has never been invited to join any of the secret Illuminatti organisations.
What, all two of them?
He didn't join the original Illuminati because Xavier was already there to represent mutantkind's interests. There was no need to offer Scott an invitation when at the time he was subordinate to Xavier.
He didn't join the second because Emma was a far more natural fit that has plenty of experience dealing with "secret cabals" (Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club) and Norman Osborn (and Namor) knew her.
Though the supposition that the Illuminati groups are for "smart people" is false. The Hood, Emma Frost, and Namor don't come across as particularly more intelligent (in terms of raw brainpower) than Scott. Nor, for that matter, does Black Bolt. None of them are presented as "super geniuses" like Doom, Richards, or even "geniuses" like Stark, Osborn, T'Challa, Xavier, or Dr. Strange.
I do agree that Scott hasn't always been a "big picture" guy, but that's been changing pretty rapidly in recent years, and even as far back as the original X-Factor he was concerned with the overall issues facing mutantkind, and trying to do something about it in Xavier's absence. I also agree that he wouldn't likely join such a cabal. Now Storm, on the other hand, has been a member of the Hellfire Club's inner circle before, as well. She might well consider something like that.
Omega Alpha
02-03-2009, 08:07 AM
What, all two of them?
He didn't join the original Illuminati because Xavier was already there to represent mutantkind's interests. There was no need to offer Scott an invitation when at the time he was subordinate to Xavier.
He didn't join the second because Emma was a far more natural fit that has plenty of experience dealing with "secret cabals" (Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club) and Norman Osborn (and Namor) knew her.
Though the supposition that the Illuminati groups are for "smart people" is false. The Hood, Emma Frost, and Namor don't come across as particularly more intelligent (in terms of raw brainpower) than Scott. Nor, for that matter, does Black Bolt. None of them are presented as "super geniuses" like Doom, Richards, or even "geniuses" like Stark, Osborn, T'Challa, Xavier, or Dr. Strange.
I do agree that Scott hasn't always been a "big picture" guy, but that's been changing pretty rapidly in recent years, and even as far back as the original X-Factor he was concerned with the overall issues facing mutantkind, and trying to do something about it in Xavier's absence. I also agree that he wouldn't likely join such a cabal. Now Storm, on the other hand, has been a member of the Hellfire Club's inner circle before, as well. She might well consider something like that.
Heck, now that you mention it, wasn't Scott still a teenager at the time of the first Illuminati? Or if not, at most at 20 or 21.
In anyway, your post is full of win. :cool:
MartinRedmond
02-03-2009, 08:51 AM
Scott is too clueless to join.
DeniseXfrost
02-03-2009, 09:11 AM
If Emma told him to.
Word!
asd
What, all two of them?
He didn't join the original Illuminati because Xavier was already there to represent mutantkind's interests. There was no need to offer Scott an invitation when at the time he was subordinate to Xavier.
He didn't join the second because Emma was a far more natural fit that has plenty of experience dealing with "secret cabals" (Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club) and Norman Osborn (and Namor) knew her.
Though the supposition that the Illuminati groups are for "smart people" is false. The Hood, Emma Frost, and Namor don't come across as particularly more intelligent (in terms of raw brainpower) than Scott. Nor, for that matter, does Black Bolt. None of them are presented as "super geniuses" like Doom, Richards, or even "geniuses" like Stark, Osborn, T'Challa, Xavier, or Dr. Strange.
And that's exactly my point. In picking Xavier and Emma to join these cabals over Cyclops it shows that he is not exactly a grand strategist or how he is viewed as particularly smart. Second of all having 'raw brain power' by no means makes one a strategist. There are plenty of people who can regurgitate raw data but have no common sense and can not plan. It's no wonder that Reed Richards was following around Tony Stark directions.
As for your claim about Black Bolt not being particularly intelligent. I strongly suggest that you give the The Inhumans (http://www.amazon.com/Inhumans-Marvel-Comics-Fantastic-Four/dp/0785107533/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233677554&sr=8-1) a read.
Cyclops is essentially a boyscout with the imagination of an accountant. He can only think in a step by step process. I personally don't think that he should be rewarded for putting X-Force together. That to me was pretty much obvious from the get go.
Optic Rage!
02-03-2009, 09:46 AM
And that's exactly my point. In picking Xavier and Emma to join these cabals over Cyclops it shows that he is not exactly a grand strategist or how he is viewed as particularly smart. Second of all having 'raw brain power' by no means makes one a strategist. There are plenty of people who can regurgitate raw data but have no common sense and can not plan. It's no wonder that Reed Richards was following around Tony Stark directions.
As for your claim about Black Bolt not being particularly intelligent. I strongly suggest that you give the The Inhumans (http://www.amazon.com/Inhumans-Marvel-Comics-Fantastic-Four/dp/0785107533/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233677554&sr=8-1) a read.
Cyclops is essentially a boyscout with the imagination of an accountant. He can only think in a step by step process. I personally don't think that he should be rewarded for putting X-Force together. That to me was pretty much obvious from the get go.
Did you just like, IGNORE everything he just said?
A) When the first one came around, Xavier was still the leader, Cyclops was a kid.
B) The second one is made up of you know, people who are or used to be evil?
Your obviously to biased to have a logical discussion, Don't waste time denying it.
DarthCyclopsRLZ
02-03-2009, 10:48 AM
Rage... Relax.
Character limitations are a *good* thing. Kinda invalidates most of the whining, eh. The macro never was Cyke's strong suit. So be it.
Also, Cyke not being enough of a shady manipulative a$$hole to get an invite isn't necessarily a *bad* thing, lol.
Red Lotus
02-03-2009, 12:35 PM
And that's exactly my point. In picking Xavier and Emma to join these cabals over Cyclops it shows that he is not exactly a grand strategist or how he is viewed as particularly smart. Second of all having 'raw brain power' by no means makes one a strategist. There are plenty of people who can regurgitate raw data but have no common sense and can not plan. It's no wonder that Reed Richards was following around Tony Stark directions.
As for your claim about Black Bolt not being particularly intelligent. I strongly suggest that you give the The Inhumans (http://www.amazon.com/Inhumans-Marvel-Comics-Fantastic-Four/dp/0785107533/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233677554&sr=8-1) a read.
Cyclops is essentially a boyscout with the imagination of an accountant. He can only think in a step by step process. I personally don't think that he should be rewarded for putting X-Force together. That to me was pretty much obvious from the get go.
The Illuminati were meeting before the X-men fought Krakoa. So if they wanted a mutant in the group it would be Xavier or Magneto. At the time Xavier was the one who was representing the mutant race.
In Emma case she is there because Osborn knows her past and that she would be easier to manipulate. Scott is a boy scout when its comes to dealing with some one like Norman. With Emma there is a better chance of her keeping Norman little group to herself. Emma wont try to be a hero and stop Norman but Scott would.
Pixie_Solanas
02-03-2009, 12:50 PM
Scott's not the sharpest tool in the shed, sir.
How about a remedial illuminati for Mr. Summers?
darknessatnoon
02-03-2009, 12:52 PM
Scott's not the sharpest tool in the shed, sir.
How about a remedial illuminati for Mr. Summers?
Good idea.
Who would that consist of?
Tony Stark, Hercules? Who else?
Pixie_Solanas
02-03-2009, 01:27 PM
Good idea.
Who would that consist of?
Tony Stark, Hercules? Who else?
Ben Grimm.
Clint Barton's a bit thick, too.
ExodusCloak
02-03-2009, 01:27 PM
What, all two of them?
He didn't join the original Illuminati because Xavier was already there to represent mutantkind's interests. There was no need to offer Scott an invitation when at the time he was subordinate to Xavier.
He didn't join the second because Emma was a far more natural fit that has plenty of experience dealing with "secret cabals" (Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club) and Norman Osborn (and Namor) knew her.
Though the supposition that the Illuminati groups are for "smart people" is false. The Hood, Emma Frost, and Namor don't come across as particularly more intelligent (in terms of raw brainpower) than Scott. Nor, for that matter, does Black Bolt. None of them are presented as "super geniuses" like Doom, Richards, or even "geniuses" like Stark, Osborn, T'Challa, Xavier, or Dr. Strange.
Scotts a soldier the question is like saying why Captain America wasn't invited. He's just not that kind of thinker.
And intelligence wise, Emma is actually a lot smarter then Scott. And she is a genius it tends to be forgotten with people like Forge and Beast around but during her White Queen days she created/designed a bunch of psionic tech. Her intelligence stats got bumped up in the Handbook most recently. I think the last time they referenced how smart she actually is was in WWH: X-Men.
Regardless of that, Illuminati's are just not Cykes or Capts cup of tea. You have to have a certain amount of arrogance to believe you can control the world by sitting in the dark in the avengers laundry room on run down chairs and a manky looking table.
Pixie_Solanas
02-03-2009, 01:32 PM
Scott couldn't tinkle without Prof telepathically telling him where to aim
Optic Rage!
02-03-2009, 01:33 PM
Scott's not the sharpest tool in the shed, sir.
Oh look at that, and i bet you thought you guys had nothing in common.
Red Lotus
02-03-2009, 04:01 PM
Regardless of that, Illuminati's are just not Cykes or Capts cup of tea. You have to have a certain amount of arrogance to believe you can control the world by sitting in the dark in the avengers laundry room on run down chairs and a manky looking table.
This might be one of the best point to why he isn't in. All of the Illuminati good and bad come off as having some kind of arrogance about them.
Omega Alpha
02-03-2009, 04:36 PM
And intelligence wise, Emma is actually a lot smarter then Scott. And she is a genius it tends to be forgotten with people like Forge and Beast around but during her White Queen days she created/designed a bunch of psionic tech..
If I remember correctly, that was retconned a long time ago (even with Dark Beast being involved, I think), even if it was Claremont's intention of having her as a superscientist, it's pretty obvious by now that she isn't anything like it, and, like pretty much every intention that he had originally for the character, it is really irrelevant. In anyway, being so rich is more likely she just ordered a lackey to built it, because she ain't no Beast or Xavier, that's for sure (and that's a good thing).
This might be one of the best point to why he isn't in. All of the Illuminati good and bad come off as having some kind of arrogance about them.
Yeah, exactly. And the whole idea (a group of people secretly trying to dictate the terms of the superhuman community) is just plain arrogant. Which is why someone like Cap. America or Cyclops (or even someone like Logan or Clint Barton) wouldn't accept it.
nikbackm
02-04-2009, 08:41 AM
If I remember correctly, that was retconned a long time ago (even with Dark Beast being involved, I think), even if it was Claremont's intention of having her as a superscientist, it's pretty obvious by now that she isn't anything like it, and, like pretty much every intention that he had originally for the character, it is really irrelevant. In anyway, being so rich is more likely she just ordered a lackey to built it, because she ain't no Beast or Xavier, that's for sure (and that's a good thing).
True, that part of her has likely gone where other superpowers that time forgot (http://comiccoverage.typepad.com/comic_coverage/2009/01/the-superpowers-that-time-forgot-part-1.html) went. It would not surprise me if the CEO part is the next to go.
Yeah, exactly. And the whole idea (a group of people secretly trying to dictate the terms of the superhuman community) is just plain arrogant. Which is why someone like Cap. America or Cyclops (or even someone like Logan or Clint Barton) wouldn't accept it.
Cyclops isn't arrogant? What would you call what he's doing behind the scenes now then? Surely there's at least a degree of arrogance involved.
Not that I blame him for it of course.
Omega Alpha
02-04-2009, 08:47 AM
True, that part of her has likely gone where other superpowers that time forgot (http://comiccoverage.typepad.com/comic_coverage/2009/01/the-superpowers-that-time-forgot-part-1.html) went. It would not surprise me if the CEO part is the next to go.
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In this case was less forgotten than retconned. In anyway, it can simply be interpreted as Emma lying saying she was smarter than she actually was.
Cyclops isn't arrogant? What would you call what he's doing behind the scenes now then? Surely there's at least a degree of arrogance involved.
Not that I blame him for it of course.
I don't see how it is arrogance. All that Scott did was create a black ops group (or simply keep it running, since they acted together in Messiah Complex) to eliminate some of his enemies. Meanwhile, the Illuminati did things like take control of the Infinity Gems and deciding (or trying to) the fate of the entire superhuman community without consulting them.
Papa Moai
02-04-2009, 10:15 PM
Cyclops isn't arrogant? What would you call what he's doing behind the scenes now then?
Desperate?
Charlotte DeBlr
02-05-2009, 01:27 AM
As for retcon, the only two things that were outright retconned out of Emma's origin as told in Gen X -1 were hair colour (dyed blonde instead of natural one, though that's the "retcon that people ignore" as all of sudden all the kids Emma's supposed to have are natural blonde) and asylum story (revealed to be fabricated and inspired by her older brother's story). EVERYTHING ELSE is in continuity.
Emma was outright revealed to be 25-26 in Gen X (lasted 1,5-2 years of Marvel Time), so her being 27 in Morrison run is playsible.
Her origin never stated that she was a wealthy CEO in times of her joining the Club. In reality, 16 years old Emma was disinherited and was desperately looking for "easy money", so she began to attend HF Club parties. Being employed as a dancer even saved her the trouble of fabricating invitations with her TP (and it was totally easy to "rob" nesessary thoughts out of the heads of rich men hungry for young body).
In fact, she BECAME CEO after she joined HF club, not vice versa, using knowledge she gained there. She has no parents' money to rely on, in fact she only came into heritance of Frost family fortune after killing Adrienne.
It was revealed in her origin series that her "experience boost" at aprox. 18 years was due to telepathically "leeching" info and skills from people, including absorbtion of the total skillset of her mentor, Astrid Bloom. Her genius is closer to the one of Prodigy. Aka based on "quick learning via TP" for gaining encyclopedic base.
As for her being brilliant constructor of psionic-related tech (early models such as Mutivac were better and easier to use than models of Cerebro contemporary to them ), well, that's relatively narrow niche that can be easy ignored by writers or even explained as "X-Men didn't trust former enemy and went for Xavier standarts as "safe ones" and more reliable". She was never portrayed as "all-around Richards style genius" (though demonstrates extensive medical\biological knowledge in the arc with Horsemen of Apocalypse).
By the way, indirect mentions are still there. In Gen X it was revealed that Emma was the first to design a computer with fully "mental interface" (remorely controlled via TP). And guess what? The first model of Cerebra with "remote control" option (shown in Golgotha arc) was the one introduced in the incarnation of mansion built when Scott and Emma were in charge of X-Mansion. So it's possible Ems has been integrating her own technology into Xavier tech as time went.
As for that not being directly mentioned now- well, if you don't get your money from patents and invent new tech purely for the pleasure, you may find yourself with little spare time to devote to that seeing as you're now a leader of full-time superhero team rather than Luthor'esque villain. Maybe a gadget or a two for "lean days", but nothing more... if anything, she's applying her knowledge of that stuff to bypassing various technological psi-blockers now. Knowing how those are made easens finding flaws.
That's the end of the rant\essay.
More on continuity thing can be find there (thanks colleague Exodus).
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=474929&pagenumber=3#post10279336
x_goalkeeper
02-06-2009, 04:59 AM
I can not think Scott would participate in Illuminati. Unless maybe the 198 is really only a 19 or a 8.. I think he would use other alternatives before resorting to participate in illumunati.
Aquarius74
02-06-2009, 02:34 PM
As for retcon, the only two things that were outright retconned out of Emma's origin as told in Gen X -1 were hair colour (dyed blonde instead of natural one, though that's the "retcon that people ignore" as all of sudden all the kids Emma's supposed to have are natural blonde) and asylum story (revealed to be fabricated and inspired by her older brother's story). EVERYTHING ELSE is in continuity.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=474929&pagenumber=3#post10279336
I think you're right. It always seemed to me in the 80's that Emma's technology was the product of her money affluence, not her supermind. Let's say that she had enough mind and money to reach her goals. But her basic weapon is seduction, upon telepathy or engeneering talents. That what makes her popular because she's the typical "femme fatale".
She's also the typical heiress, in the way that she had been educated in a high class family, which gave her some manners. See the difference between Carla Bruni and Rachida Dati in France...... Bruni is to Sarkozy what Emma is to Cyclops : she changed him quite a lot, and rules his life.
Now I'm eager to see what Sarkozy's black mental box is :biggrin:
Omega Alpha
02-06-2009, 02:56 PM
I think you're right. It always seemed to me in the 80's that Emma's technology was the product of her money affluence, not her supermind. Let's say that she had enough mind and money to reach her goals.
Exactly. And it's not like she would be the first villain claiming to be smarter than she actually was.
She's also the typical heiress, in the way that she had been educated in a high class family, which gave her some manners. See the difference between Carla Bruni and Rachida Dati in France...... Bruni is to Sarkozy what Emma is to Cyclops : she changed him quite a lot, and rules his life.
Now I'm eager to see what Sarkozy's black mental box is :biggrin:
I don't know about Sarkozy and Carla Bruni (and I really, really couldn't care less), but in Scott and Emma's case, the "change" was reciprocal; they both had and have a great effect in each other, and I'd say it wasn't as much of a change as allowing them to show sides they wouldn't show before: Scott is not what Xavier wanted him to be or what he thought Jean wanted out of him (like he mentioned in Morrison's run, Jean made him feel like he was still a teenage boy), but what he both wants and needs to be, and Emma is a completely different person when she's with him, more caring and loving, and begun slowly to get more integrated with the rest of the X-men (though she still isn't close to almost anyone; and that's a good thing, for me) and care more about the rest of the world.
And Emma doesn't rule his life, even because that is exactly one of things that changed about Scott: he isn't trying to live to other people standards of what he should be. If there's something that "rules" his life, is mutantkind and the X-men. In fact, I'd say she's for certain more dependent of him than he is of her (though they are both independent minded, for the most part): for one thing, the question was never whether she loved him, or if she wanted to be with Scott, but the other way around, and even her role in Norman's Cabal couldn't really exist if she wasn't with Cyke, because she would have certainly less power and influence in the X-men than she has now. If Xavier was still in charge, or Scott wasn't with Emma, she certainly wouldn't be invited.
CE_Rap
02-06-2009, 02:58 PM
As for retcon, the only two things that were outright retconned out of Emma's origin as told in Gen X -1 were hair colour (dyed blonde instead of natural one, though that's the "retcon that people ignore" as all of sudden all the kids Emma's supposed to have are natural blonde) and asylum story (revealed to be fabricated and inspired by her older brother's story). EVERYTHING ELSE is in continuity.
Emma was outright revealed to be 25-26 in Gen X (lasted 1,5-2 years of Marvel Time), so her being 27 in Morrison run is playsible.
Her origin never stated that she was a wealthy CEO in times of her joining the Club. In reality, 16 years old Emma was disinherited and was desperately looking for "easy money", so she began to attend HF Club parties. Being employed as a dancer even saved her the trouble of fabricating invitations with her TP (and it was totally easy to "rob" nesessary thoughts out of the heads of rich men hungry for young body).
In fact, she BECAME CEO after she joined HF club, not vice versa, using knowledge she gained there. She has no parents' money to rely on, in fact she only came into heritance of Frost family fortune after killing Adrienne.
It was revealed in her origin series that her "experience boost" at aprox. 18 years was due to telepathically "leeching" info and skills from people, including absorbtion of the total skillset of her mentor, Astrid Bloom. Her genius is closer to the one of Prodigy. Aka based on "quick learning via TP" for gaining encyclopedic base.
As for her being brilliant constructor of psionic-related tech (early models such as Mutivac were better and easier to use than models of Cerebro contemporary to them ), well, that's relatively narrow niche that can be easy ignored by writers or even explained as "X-Men didn't trust former enemy and went for Xavier standarts as "safe ones" and more reliable". She was never portrayed as "all-around Richards style genius" (though demonstrates extensive medical\biological knowledge in the arc with Horsemen of Apocalypse).
By the way, indirect mentions are still there. In Gen X it was revealed that Emma was the first to design a computer with fully "mental interface" (remorely controlled via TP). And guess what? The first model of Cerebra with "remote control" option (shown in Golgotha arc) was the one introduced in the incarnation of mansion built when Scott and Emma were in charge of X-Mansion. So it's possible Ems has been integrating her own technology into Xavier tech as time went.
As for that not being directly mentioned now- well, if you don't get your money from patents and invent new tech purely for the pleasure, you may find yourself with little spare time to devote to that seeing as you're now a leader of full-time superhero team rather than Luthor'esque villain. Maybe a gadget or a two for "lean days", but nothing more... if anything, she's applying her knowledge of that stuff to bypassing various technological psi-blockers now. Knowing how those are made easens finding flaws.
That's the end of the rant\essay.
More on continuity thing can be find there (thanks colleague Exodus).
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=474929&pagenumber=3#post10279336
good post. It's on point and makes me interested in seeing tiny snippets to remind readers that she is, in fact, mildly tech capable.
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