Morrison or Dini...?

[Harding Prime]

So Batman has survived his RIP, and the Final Crisis is over. Bruce Wayne is gone and the Battle For The Cowl is to begin. And two respective runs have ended, and the end of an era. We have gone through Batman & Son, team-up with Zantanna, the return of the Joker, and Joker's Christmas Romp with Robin. They both worked through a Resurrection, new women in his life, the devil, and the heart of Hush. So now that their runs are over (for now), who do you think did more justice by the Cape Crusader?

[The Zapper]

Dini by far for me. It's all just personal taste I suppose though.

[Seraku]

they were both really, really different takes but I just loved them both so much, and are a bit difficult to compare imho.

a hard decision, but I'll give it to Dini by a hair because it reminded me of BTAS and Nguyen really grew on me.

though I did really enjoy what Morrison brought to the table and how he'd go into all these interestin tangents with his stories

[Winghead]

probably Morrison although Dini is cool. I would love to see Kurt Busiek write Batman. I think he would be a perfect combination of both of them.

[dreyga2000]

Wow dejavu... Haven't we already been through this thread...

I digress... I still choose Morrison... Don't get me wrong I love Dini... but Morrison really captured me with his imagination

[Wind-Breaker]

Dini by far for me. It's all just personal taste I suppose though.

Same here. Like I've said over and over in similar threads.

[Jaded Devil]

Dini without a doubt. Because...

1. He did amazing work with the Riddler.

2. He actually made Hush interesting.

3. He acknowledged the rest of the DCU, not just it's Bat-centric elements (he used Tasmanian Devil, for God's sake!).

4. His references to past Batman characters/stories/issues felt natural and made sense, vs. Morrison (whose run I enjoyed) throwing in every odd, quirky Batman story under the sun and then struggling to make it make sense.

[Dagger]

Dini for me. And when Nguyen came on board, it was like ZOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHMAAAAAAAAHGODDDDDDDDDD! so awesome!

[B. Kuwanger]

Dini's last year was great, but I don't think his run really compared to Morrison's run.

[HaroldAllnut]

I'm a Dini man. Morrison's great and all, but I just felt that Dini's rendition was more true to the spirit of the character, whereas Morrison's was kind of all over the place. That, and Dini writes much better dialogue.

[John Lynch]

Given that I enjoyed Dini's work and found it readable whereas Morrison I found bland (yes that's right. Bland. I stuck with it up until the Club of Batmen storyline and then finally ditched it) and I've heard many complaints that his work is difficult to understand and incomprehensible. AND given the fact that Morrison's big story ended with a fake death that we've all seen done a dozen times (at the end of RIP).

I'd have to say Dini won out by far.

Wow dejavu... Haven't we already been through this thread...Many people complained it was too early to judge because they still had an issue or two left.

[lonewolf23k]

Dini, by far. Morrisson's run was, well... basically involved taking old Silver Age Batman comics and plundering them for plot tokens, then remixing them for a new story.

Meanwhile, Dini's run involved taking the characters, exploring who they were a bit more, and using that to tell stories.

Honestly, I much prefer stories that treat characters as people rather then as plot tokens.

[CMBMOOL]

Dini, I do dig his work in the DCAU from time to time, plus he can make things fun and it makes sense to the reader.

As oppose to Morrison and full on love of Chaos and Silver Age stuff.

I mean it can work for Geoff Johns, but with Morrison, I think it lose some of it apeal overall. :frown:

I mean I loved the concept of Batmite, but as an HAllucanaiton, no...just no. :mad:

[Captain Jim]

Neither are among my favorite Batman writers (sorry), but Dini has really been growing on me lately. I enjoyed his Heart of Hush storyline quite a bit, and the recent sequel equally as much.

I'm going to add a poll to this (as I think the previous thread had).

[Harding Prime]

Neither are among my favorite Batman writers (sorry), but Dini has really been growing on me lately. I enjoyed his Heart of Hush storyline quite a bit, and the recent sequel equally as much.

I'm going to add a poll to this (as I think the previous thread had).

Thanks, I was going to ask u to actually. I forgot.

I'm not exactly sure who I like more. I enjoyed Morrison's over all run, even though I have given him a hard time about the end and FC, but I thought RIP was amazing until the conclusion issue. I am high on spectacle and theatrics, and Morrison likes to deliver on that, but it fizzled at the end. Dini's run was much more low key, but had the best ending out of the two with the Heart of Hush. My favorite issue of his run was the Joker Christmas romp. ...I'm just not sure.

[Vidocq]

Dini, For two main reasons. First Liked it better in many ways, the stories, the format (one and done), the fact that Batman logically solved the crimes and it wasn't like I Knew it because I'm badass. Second. THE BIGGEST REVELATION OF 70 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!11111111!!!!!!!!! Which I'm still not sure what it was suppose to be.

[He who laughs last]

It has to be Dini. Grant introduces many cool concepts, but it was Dini who got me interested Batman again after many years. I tried getting into some of Morrison's stuff, but it didn't click right away.

[Quinnhop]

Why not both?

[Sizzle]

Over the last year, Dini. Overall, Morrison. Though, Dini made me hate Hush more. That he looks like Bruce now just grates on me. Granted, that is better than me not caring about Hush at all, which is what I did before.

Morrison's take on Bat's in the JLA makes me geek out big time. Kind of like a caped James bond.

[Bat-Reader]

Dini hands down.

[zur en arrh]

I can't say I enjoyed Dini much at all, whereas Morrison constructed one of my favorite arcs ever. Morrison gets my vote.

[Bombshell]

Dini.

Definitely Dini.

[nepenthes]

dini writes generic comics to a high quality level. Morrison does something else entirely. they're not even in the same league.

[dancj]

I found the two Dini TPBs I've read so far really boring, whereas the one Morrison TPB was great. No contest for me!

[John Lynch]

I found the two Dini TPBs I've read so far really boring, whereas the one Morrison TPB was great. No contest for me!Well luckily for you, the Batman RIP trade is coming out soon, and you'll also want to buy the Final Crisis trade so you can get the actual ending to Batman RIP!

[PastePotPete]

Morrison all the way. He always surprises me. He did radical things with Bruce Wayne while still paying homage to the past. And his writing is very rich. You can find new stuff in his Batman issues when you re-read them.

Dini churns out workman-like adventures in the "classic" vein. They're not bad. They just don't get me excited.

Also, I will never forgive Dini for Countdown. He was the showrunner on that book and he really let it go completely off the rails.

People get down on Morrison because they didn't like the ending to RIP or because he promised "The biggest reveal in 70 years!" Damn, kids, don't follow the solicits. Just read the book.

[flapjaxx]

At least until Morrison does another storyarc or three, Dini is still the better Bat-creator, just because of his involvement with B:TAS and (to a lesser extent, imo) because of the creation of Harley Quinn. That's if we're just evaluating who's the better BATMAN creator (I liked RIP but didn't like Arkham Asylum). Overall, though, I don't think there's any question--if you read most of his work--that Morrison's the better writer. By comparison Dini is VERY LIMITED and somewhat shallow. There's really less of a difference between what Dini did with Tiny Toons (he's still that guy to me, to an extent) and what he did with Heart of Hush, than there is between the different works of Morrison's more varied output. But Dini is also far more consistent. Morrison's all over the place quality-wise as well. Morrison takes more chances, reaches higher, is far more ambitious, and that's admirable to me. But on the other hand we're lucky to have Dini around at the same time. If you were going to give a kid a Batman story that he could enjoy now and not be embarrassed about reading when he grows up, no question--give him a Dini work and he'll be perfectly happy. If you were going to try to include a Batman comic in a literary essay, no question--a Morrison book would be more useful and interesting.

[nepenthes]

Well luckily for you, the Batman RIP trade is coming out soon, and you'll also want to buy the Final Crisis trade so you ca in issue n get the actual ending to Batman RIP!

I'm pretty sure RIP ended with a helicopter crash in batman 681.

[frostedone]

Dini by a mile.

His stories were consistently gold. Also he tells stories that are FUN to read and have enough plot twists to satisfy. He also moves characters forward. He writes character stories. Plus he gave us a reformed Riddler, a new (and good) Ventriloquist, and did the impossible: make Hush a worth Batman villain. Plus he handled Catwoman and Zatanna very well, and put the Detective back in Detective Comics. He "gets" Batman and his supporting cast so well.

Morrison I found bland. His stories didn't really hit it off with me. Th endings were all poor, and he didn't move characters forward. Jezebel was completely flat, and his Joker was a huge step in the wrong direction. I also found many of his story arcs boring, and his obsession with the Silver age to be off putting. He loves the Silver Age we get it. His stories didn't really focus on characters but rather overly convoluted plots that didn't really leave a big impression on me.

I am not trying to bash Grant Morrison here, I respect what he did, I just like Paul Dini 100 times more.

[Captain Jim]

I'm pretty sure RIP ended with a helicopter crash in batman 681.

Indeed, which is how Morrison always intended it to end. RIP was Morrison's idea; having Batman "die" in FC and connecting the two was Didio's.

[Liberty Belle Fan]

I've always highly preferred the stories written by Morrison to Dini. Each month when I read Batman & Detective (not on the pull list at the moment since they're both on a break) I always feel like Detective is Diet Batman. I'm always looking for more with Detective, but end up feeling like the 2.99 was much less filling than the Batman experience.

R.I.P. is just a small piece of the total story that Morrison is writing for Batman, it's like watching the Empire Strikes Back and expecting some sort of closure.

[John Lynch]

I'm pretty sure RIP ended with a helicopter crash in batman 681.If by ended you mean had Batman undergo a fake death. Yes, that's how it "ended". The real death of batman, which if its going to happen one would think would happen in the storyline called Batman RIP, was in another mini.

He did radical things with Bruce WayneLike what? I feel Morrison's ideas are interesting but that his execution is lack lustre. But even then I wouldn't call his ideas "radical", unless he really stepped it up after the League of Batmen arc.

Oh, and there is 1 Morrison issue I liked. Issue #666. It was a done-in-one so it didn't have enough time to meander and forced Morrison to confine his ideas into one issue. That made it much more exciting then his usual fare which meanders through the arc.

[earl]

I think both Grant Morrison and Paul Dini were both an improvement over the last regular run during the whole war games stuff. I think those War Games/War Crimes etc stories I think are pretty much about the worse of the decade in the main two books.

You definitely get a contrast of styles between Morrison and Dini. I really have looked forward to reading both.

I don't know what a Philip K Dick Batman story line would have been like, but I suppose Grant Morrison's RIP is about as close as I am ever going to get. There are definitely some good points, but it holds to see how it will all play out.

Paul Dini is more of a classic comics writer. I do think he pulled a couple of villains out of the ditch, by being able to bring back Scarface from being tossed away (Weskler was a good character) and he added quite a bit of depth to Hush, which was a cool looking character but whose back story didn't really add up.

[B. Kuwanger]

Morrison all the way. He always surprises me. He did radical things with Bruce Wayne while still paying homage to the past. And his writing is very rich. You can find new stuff in his Batman issues when you re-read them.

Dini churns out workman-like adventures in the "classic" vein. They're not bad. They just don't get me excited.


Yeah, Dini to me was really just a bit too safe. His stories were pretty much all done in one, mostly used the same old villains, and kinda the same went for the fill-in writers as I remember. I was quite satisfied while reading the issues, but I'll probably never go back through them and if I do, I doubt it'll have the same effect as when I went through the Morrison run again and again. I mean, the stuff Morrison was pulling out while Batman was the biggest movie star in the world...

And I thought the execution was just great. While the dialog itself was plain enough to make me stop and think about it, I figure it could have had a much worse flaw. Like how I could not get with Kramer's art.

[nepenthes]

If by ended you mean had Batman undergo a fake death. Yes, that's how it "ended". The real death of batman, which if its going to happen one would think would happen in the storyline called Batman RIP, was in another mini.

No it was just a helicopter crash and a live burial, there was no "fake death" anywhere. What gave you the impression there would be? message boards perhaps?

The "real death" of batman never happened either. and was never promised. Ever. What you saw (batman getting zapped by rays) was part of a different story all together and not a final stage RIP, which ended with batman facing down his existential devil and walking away. don't blame a writers for something you wrongly presumed

[John Lynch]

don't blame a writers for something you wrongly presumedSo you're saying that given:
1) Batman is dead.
2) Batman appeared to die in Detective Comics.
3) His apparent death was the culmination of an arc called Batman RIP

It is my fault for assuming that his apparent death at the end of RIP was in fact an actual death, and that I should have known better? Even though Batman currently is dead now only mere months after his apparent death?

[Harding Prime]

So you're saying that given:
1) Batman is dead.
2) Batman appeared to die in Detective Comics.
3) His apparent death was the culmination of an arc called Batman RIP

It is my fault for assuming that his apparent death at the end of RIP was in fact an actual death, and that I should have known better? Even though Batman currently is dead now only mere months after his apparent death?

Well, its not your fault that you thought his "death" was to take place in RIP. It seems there were a lot of editorial hooey going on from day one of FC and RIP. I really liked all the layers of Morrison's Batman, but at the end of the run, it all seemed it lie flat. Why exactly am I suppose to know that Hurt is the Devil, BTW?

For me, it comes down to two different writing styles. Dini in the classic since, which he executed greatly. And a more modern approach of writing with existenial layers and not very direct, but all the seperate peices coming together. If RIP and FC had executed better in the end, I would known that Morrison would be my choice, but since... I keep it at a tie.

The Joker Christmas special was my favorite Dini issue, by far. After the Ressurection issue was good too. Clipped all the loose ends of Ra's. Morrison's best effort in my eyes, was issue 674. It was when he was in the chair with the last of the Batmen, and was able to escape the inescapable. Kinda a setup for RIP, but how everything came together was just amazing. And Morrison's explanation of Batman being ready for any situation was his best writing of the series, IMO.

[nepenthes]

Well, its not your fault that you thought his "death" was to take place in RIP. It seems there were a lot of editorial hooey going on from day one of FC and RIP. I really liked all the layers of Morrison's Batman, but at the end of the run, it all seemed it lie flat. Why exactly am I suppose to know that Hurt is the Devil, BTW?

"I was five years old when I first sensed the presence of a gaping, toppling void in the center of existence"

"In my attempts to see clearly in the deepest dark...did I open myself to some pure source of evil? Did I find the devil waiting? And was that fear in his eyes?"

"Why did you have to choose an enemy that's old as time and bigger than all of us?"

"I am the hole in things, the enemy, the piece that can never fit, there since the beginning"

It's not exactly the bible 'devil' but you get the picture :cool:




So you're saying that given:
1) Batman is dead.
2) Batman appeared to die in Detective Comics.
3) His apparent death was the culmination of an arc called Batman RIP

It is my fault for assuming that his apparent death at the end of RIP was in fact an actual death, and that I should have known better? Even though Batman currently is dead now only mere months after his apparent death?

1) he's not dead
2) he appeared to die in RIP part 5 when they buried him and then appeared to die in FC when Superman was holding a charred corpse. not sure where Detective Comics comes into it.
3) again the impending death at the end of RIP was something fanboys whipped up themselves - though Morrison clearly stated months before the end of RIP that Batman was NOT going to die. but net droids chose to ignore that little bit and kept on hyperventilating.

the editorial hooey was over the "biggest reveal in 70 years". i.e. the un-reveal of Dr.Hurt's identity. Too bad Dr. Hurt was revealed. some people just didn't like the answer



I want Dini to go back to Poison Ivy. also he should do a story with the Terrible Trio, I always thought he'd be a good match for them, his kinda style.

I wonder how Dini will have to adapt to the "new status quo". I have a feeling his book will be more separate from Morrisons comes July, let Morrison work on the new landscape by himself and leave Dini with Nightwing/Damian/Robin in the normal Gotham City or something

[John Lynch]

If RIP and FC had executed better in the endThat's a big gripe of mine with Morrison. He doesn't execute well.

1) he's not deadCitation needed.

3) again the impending death at the end of RIP was something fanboys whipped up themselves - though Morrison clearly stated months before the end of RIP that Batman was NOT going to die.You told me to ignore interviews and hype. Make up your mind, was I suppose to ignore it or follow it?

Also if Morrison didn't want people to think Batman would die in his storyline, he would have given it a different title. He deliberately set up the expectation when he gave it the title of "Batman RIP".

[carabas]

Citation needed.
From April last year...
http://comicbookresources.com:8080/?page=article&id=16024

“Yes,” he said. “But like I say, it’s so much better than death. People have killed characters in the past but to me, that kind of ends the story! I like to keep the story twisting and turning. So what I am doing is a fate worse than death. Things that no one would expect to happen to these guys at all.”

[John Lynch]

That refers to RIP rather then Final Crisis, which everyone now claims did feature Batman's real death, rather then simply an apparent death as we saw in RIP and have seen in dozens of other comics. Either way, the ending for RIP was anti-climatic as it did feature an apparent death, which along with the story's title was just to psyche people out.

If we weren't suppose to finish reading RIP thinking Batman had died, Morrison wouldn't have ended it with Batman appearing to die and wouldn't have called the storyline Batman RIP.

I dunno about you, but I rather have interesting stories then a writer try to trick everyone into thinking 1 thing happened (Batman died at the end of RIP) when in reality another thing happened (he only appeared to die and in fact died in Final Crisis). Such twists and turns are good for partway through an arc, they shouldn't be the climax of an arc. But this is Morrison who struggles with ending his storylines, so its hardly surprising.

[Captain Jim]

John, you might want to check out posts 4 & 5 in this thread (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=255512); they may be helpful.

And Batman appeared to die in FC #6, but was revealed to be alive in FC #7.

[Brannon]

Why do people defend bad writing, execution and editing? I actually enjoyed RIP till the end. You don't end a major storyline like RIP in another book that many Batman fans could care less about. It's absurd.

[Captain Jim]

It really didn't end in FC, it ended in the last chapter of RIP. I know Didio said otherwise, but he's full of it. You might want to refer to the same posts I referred John to in the post above.

[John Lynch]

And Batman appeared to die in FC #6, but was revealed to be alive in FC #7.I didn't know that. So 2 fake deaths within 5 months of each other :rolleyes:

Anyway thanks for trying to make sense of this mess. At the end of the day, I'm glad I avoided the whole thing.

[carabas]

Why do people defend bad writing, execution and editing?There is no bad writing to defend. I haven't seen anybody defend the worst editing since Civil War.

[nepenthes]

You told me to ignore interviews and hype. Make up your mind, was I suppose to ignore it or follow it?

Simple. When Morrison is quoted in clear black and white text saying "he's not gonna die, it's a fate worse than death", you go with that. When some tool on a board says "oh noes they're gonna kill my favourite character I'm dropping DC!!1!"....you ignore it. which is how all the death hype got started in the first place - people with very limited comprehension skills being allowed near computers.

Also if Morrison didn't want people to think Batman would die in his storyline, he would have given it a different title. He deliberately set up the expectation when he gave it the title of "Batman RIP".

he also said, again in clear text, that the title doesn't necersarrily mean what you think it might mean. you're failing hard

Citation needed.

this is amusing. you'll find your citation in the friggin books....

I wouldn't call his ideas "radical", unless he really stepped it up after the League of Batmen arc..

which you seemingly haven't even read! ha ha. you literally don't know what you're talking about. enough with you.

[Harding Prime]

From April last year...

“Yes,” he said. “But like I say, it’s so much better than death. People have killed characters in the past but to me, that kind of ends the story! I like to keep the story twisting and turning. So what I am doing is a fate worse than death. Things that no one would expect to happen to these guys at all.”


The problem is the fate worse then death actually did occur in FC with the Omega Sanction.

I'll say this, Dini's work never left any one wondering what the F is going on. It's a gift and a curse.

[Ghostman]

Paul Dini is like Paul McCartney, while Morrison is like John Lennon

Dini, like McCartney, is going to be loved more because he's simplistic and easier to swallow. Dini/McCartney are ultimately doing the same old same ol style, except they do it so well that most people dont care.

Morrison often dosent go for standard stories like Lennon often dosent go for standard hooks and choruses. Both of them put alot of their distinct styles into their work, and sadly, its not accessible to everyone, though they are loved by a majority.

[John Lynch]

which you seemingly haven't even read! ha ha. you literally don't know what you're talking about. enough with you.Then again based on what people have been saying and the fact that Captain Jim needed to make several posts trying to keep everything straight, even those who read it are having trouble comprehending what happened. Of course those that worship at the altar of Morrison will say this is because he's such a great writer and everyone is just too stupid to comprehend his greatness. Personally I think its a sign of a poor writer.

[nepenthes]

Then again based on what people have been saying and the fact that Captain Jim needed to make several posts trying to keep everything straight, even those who read it are having trouble comprehending what happened. Of course those that worship at the altar of Morrison will say this is because he's such a great writer and everyone is just too stupid to comprehend his greatness. Personally I think its a sign of a poor writer.

RIP has enjoyed massive sales so of course there's gonna be a segment who are confounded by the words and pictures - they're the ones who need it explained. Alot of people don't. Fact is you're talking like you've read the thing yourself, making judgments on hearsay and asking for citations for events that are pretty clear in the issues themselves. Also if someone has trouble reading War & Peace does that mean Tolstoy is a lousy writer? No. it's called ambition, originality and a higher level of challenging engagement and alot of little fanboys can't deal with that, they just want clean cut picture books. There's a line where it becomes less a matter of opinion and subjectivity and more about literacy, and I don't see why this has to be such an outrageous claim, its the same in books, movies, opera, anything. Not all opinions are equal,we're all on different levels and I'm not giving equal weight to someone who can't handle a touch of ambiguity or discordance and i don't see why we should all pretend that some people are not just dumber than others. like it's so impolite to say that but in books or film it's just taken for granted

[guarniero]

Given that I enjoyed Dini's work and found it readable whereas Morrison I found bland (yes that's right. Bland. I stuck with it up until the Club of Batmen storyline and then finally ditched it) and I've heard many complaints that his work is difficult to understand and incomprehensible. AND given the fact that Morrison's big story ended with a fake death that we've all seen done a dozen times (at the end of RIP).

I'd have to say Dini won out by far.

Many people complained it was too early to judge because they still had an issue or two left.

I hated both lately... sorry, it's my opinion.
but Morrison was really awful for me; talk about cliché!! the Joker plunges to the river in an ambulance (1st lame fake death) and pages later there is Batman's plunge w/ the heli (2nd even lamer fake death) .... we have seen those crappy scenes before indeed, like 200 thousand times.

[pauwoo]

Dini, for me, I just dislike Morrison and his style of writing.

I'm just happy to be reading Batman for a couple of months without him being on it

[Pól Rua]

You know how sometimes you feel like something, and then sometimes you feel like something different?

[Captain Jim]

Then again based on what people have been saying and the fact that Captain Jim needed to make several posts trying to keep everything straight, even those who read it are having trouble comprehending what happened.

Well, actually, I think there are a couple of things going on here. On the one hand, Morrison's writing style is itself a bit difficult for many to follow at times. But an even bigger issue may be the confusion caused by editorial interference. I'm speaking specifically of tie-ins with an ambiguous relationship to the main storyline, and forcing a "death" within FC that Morrison never intended.

[dancj]

I'll say this, Dini's work never left any one wondering what the F is going on. It's a gift and a curse.
Dini's work generally leaves me not caring what the F is going on

[doctrinedee]

I've always been a Morrison fan, but though I liked his Batman run I don't think it's done the title any favours.

A friend asked me recently whether the R.I.P. related TBs would be worth his time, and I had to say no and direct him towards the Paul Dini collections. As much as I can appreciate what Morrison is attempting, the average reader won't.

[Endless Flight]

I just got back into Batman after being away for years, and Dini and Nguyen are the two reasons why.

[Chiroptera]

Personally, I'm a fan of the classics. Good guys win, bad guys lose, and in the end the day is saved thanks to (insert preferred hero here). Because of that, I naturally favor Dini. However, I loved All-Star Superman and after reading it I had renewed Faith in Morrison and was ready to give him a shot with Batman.

Unfortunately, his run on Batman reconfirmed the same thing I've always thought about Grant. I find him to be an excellent "what if" writer. If the story can have a definitive beginning and end he can write it but if it's put of an on-going in continuity series, he drops the ball. Morrison's run continiously had me asking myself "Why do I keep paying for this #*$&!?" and yet I couldn't stop because I had to know how it ended because it was an in-continuity story and thus I felt it necessary to continue reading in order to be kept up to date.


Paul Dini's run, on the other hand, impressed me more and more with each story. I particularly loved that most of the comics were one-shots, allowing for one good story told in a single issue rather than having to follow issue after issue in a continuous storyline that would require me going back over old issues and re-reading them just to keep up with the story.

As it stands now, Dini is my personal idea of an ideal comic writer, while Grant Morrison is everything I never want in a comic writer.

[Cyclopsj316]

Dini.

The guy actually made sense. Easy choice...

[Libaax]

Paul Dini is like Paul McCartney, while Morrison is like John Lennon

Dini, like McCartney, is going to be loved more because he's simplistic and easier to swallow. Dini/McCartney are ultimately doing the same old same ol style, except they do it so well that most people dont care.

Morrison often dosent go for standard stories like Lennon often dosent go for standard hooks and choruses. Both of them put alot of their distinct styles into their work, and sadly, its not accessible to everyone, though they are loved by a majority.


Yeah events are so much harder than stand alone stories in Detective....

Its much harder to get credit for good one issue stories than than some long run and the newest event story....

You are making it sound like Morrison is inventing something new,unheard of...


You could have said why you prefer GM without all the BS about simplistic versus how GM doesnt go for standard.

[carabas]

Yeah events are so much harder than stand alone stories in Detective....

Its much harder to get credit for good one issue stories than than some long run and the newest event story...
I feel the need to point out here that Dini has played in the event arena: he was the head writer on Countdown.

[Bat-Reader]

And i have to point out that Dini wrote the mask of phantasm. To me his run on Batman stars from way back.

[Libaax]

I feel the need to point out here that Dini has played in the event arena: he was the head writer on Countdown.

So?
We are talking about Batman vs Detective comics. GM or Din's Batman stories.

Im not saying all events suck or something im talking about people taking for granted writing run with a story like RIP is harder than writing good stand alone issues in Detective comics.