Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader preview

[Trey]

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=92159514&blogID=468114731

I love the art. So comicky with nice little details. Looks like a gathering of Batman villains.

[Captain Jim]

Okay, I'm definitely intrigued.

[Seraku]

interesting, I'll be looking forward to this.


also in before a certain poster complains how it'll suck because it's not in continuity :biggrin:

[Captain Jim]

I can't imagine who you're talking about. :biggrin:

[AJM]

I think that is without doubt the most exciting preview i've ever read. i wasn't particularly bothered about this but now i can't wait!

[Seraku]

I find it kinda funny that BOTH Kubert brothers are having a special extra large Batman related issue coming out on the same day.

[Captain Jim]

I find it kinda funny that BOTH Kubert brothers are having a special extra large Batman related issue coming out on the same day.

I had to look this up, so in case anyone else is equally clueless, he's talking about the BATO Special that was delayed from last month.

[Seraku]

yeah that's what I refered to, even though Bats isn't in that issue, it will have Alfred in it and it has Batman in the title.


also I just saw this on another site and am really looking forward to the story even more

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/01/batmancape2.jpg

[AlistairCrane]

I thought Joe Chill was dead?

[DarKye]

I thought Joe Chill was dead?

So did Selina. Hopefully, we may see what actually happened in the story.

[CMBMOOL]

I'm loving the art and the story so far. :tongue:


Here's hoping for at least an Earth-2 reference in this. I know it's a long shot, but here's to hoping. :redface:

[Redem]

I thought Joe Chill was dead?

Since when death ever been an obstact to anything in comic book?

[AlistairCrane]

Since when death ever been an obstact to anything in comic book?

If it goes unexplained, it becomes an issue.

[chipsnopotatoes]

I'm looking forward to this issue. The first few panels give it such a retro feel, like it takes place in the fifties -- i.e. how polite and well dressed the man in crime alley was + Selina back to her classic look (long hair, more feminine build).

[AlistairCrane]

I'm looking forward to this issue. The first few panels give it such a retro feel, like it takes place in the fifties -- i.e. how polite and well dressed the man in crime alley was + Selina back to her classic look (long hair, more feminine build).

Which makes me guess this story is an Elseworlds.

[Vidocq]

Which makes me guess this story is an Elseworlds.

By Joe Chill's dialogue I think I see how this will fit into continuity, but I seriously hope it dosen't. I dont like continuity now a days.

[Mac]

“I was here at the start. I’m not going to miss the end.”

Sent chills down my spine.

Hopefully, regardless of continuity, "Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?" will turn out to be a great story.

[Seraku]

I thought Joe Chill was dead?

did you actually SEE him die?Which makes me guess this story is an Elseworlds.

I thought this was obvious due to the fact that it's called "Whatever Happened To The (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whatever_happened_to_the_man_of_tomorrow%3F) Caped Crusader?"

Sent chills down my spineI lold :biggrin:

[zur en arrh]

Looks pretty interesting. And I flat out adore the cover.

[Bombshell]

I wasn't too keen on this.

And then I saw the preview.

And now I'm kinda keen on it.

[agentofthebat]

im kinda for it.

[n2doop5u]

Feels very Gaiman to me.... which excites me to no end. Mmm mmm, good writin'!

[Super Buddies Forever]

Ah, just reading this preview has already washed the taste of Morrison out of my mouth. I love the retro feel, I love the ambiguous continuity (I'm thinking this will be a collage of Batman's past, a celebration of everything that's come before), and I love how it's not falling over itself trying to be clever and hip.

[The Batman]

Curiouser and curiouser. . . .

[AJM]

Ah, just reading this preview has already washed the taste of Morrison out of my mouth. I love the retro feel, I love the ambiguous continuity (I'm thinking this will be a collage of Batman's past, a celebration of everything that's come before).

Eh... isn't that what Morrison just did?

[Super Buddies Forever]

Not really. Despite an early attempt to emulate the feel of the stories of the '70s, Morrison trailed away from that soon enough. Instead, he obsessed over the minutiae of stories half-a-century old.

Those last two issues he wrote were wonderful, but this looks to be more than an elaborate recapping of Batman's past.

[Mac]

“The Batman stuff is awesome,” Gaimain said. “I don’t know whether or not what I’ve **done** is awesome; I was asked to write the last Batman story and I did or at least I wrote what I would want to see as the last Batman story. But on the way I got to ask the impossible of [penciler] Andy Kubert, not once but often twice a page, and Andy and [inker] Scott Williams just came through. It’s astonishing, I’ve seen issue one and I’m really just unbelievably proud of what Andy and Scott have done, it’s wonderful. And what I’ve seen of issue two, it’s better. And while at the end of the second issue they may be wanting to burn me in effigy, I think they will be wanting to make Andy Kubert some sort of comics god.”

Awesome. It's great when even the writer's got that kind of anticipation for the story.
Although, it's a tad weird how he talks of issue 2 as if he's not doing it.....(Unless he was refering to the art alone, which now that I think about it seems about right..) Regardless, I'm pumped.
Next week could never come faster.


I lold :biggrin:

Oh, thank god someone caught that. Haha

[Ben Reilly#6]

Kubert's definately won me over with that art. It looks fantastic. Okay, so it's mostly because Selina looks freaking gorgeous, but everything else is great too.

Yeah, I'm pretty hyped for this. As much as I'm a stickler for continuity, I don't mind the retro feel combined with...whenever this is taking place. Seems like it's going to be pretty freaking surreal, but what more could you expect from Gaiman?

[nepenthes]

I thought this was obvious due to the fact that it's called "Whatever Happened To The Caped Crusader?"

I don't see why this should be an Elseworlds when it's clearly addressing Batman's disappearance and the end of an era so to speak. Which is what's happening right now

I also don't see why it has to be so black and white in terms of continuity, "in canon" or "out of canon", there's room in between. this belongs in the shifting sands, the soft places ha ha


I'll just take this opportunity to remind people that Dark Knight Returns, Killing Joke and Long Halloween were all "non-canon" when first published

[AJM]

Not really. Despite an early attempt to emulate the feel of the stories of the '70s, Morrison trailed away from that soon enough. Instead, he obsessed over the minutiae of stories half-a-century old.

You say potato.

[AJM]

I'll just take this opportunity to remind people that Dark Knight Returns, Killing Joke and Long Halloween were all "non-canon" when first published

I think DKR still is, isn't it?

[AlistairCrane]

I don't see why this should be an Elseworlds when it's clearly addressing Batman's disappearance and the end of an era so to speak. Which is what's happening right now

I also don't see why it has to be so black and white in terms of continuity, "in canon" or "out of canon", there's room in between. this belongs in the shifting sands, the soft places ha ha


I'll just take this opportunity to remind people that Dark Knight Returns, Killing Joke and Long Halloween were all "non-canon" when first published

It's not in continuity because Selina doesn't and wouldn't drive around in a hokey cat car. That's something a Silver Age Catwoman (who lacked character development and anything even remotely resembling a complicated personality) would do.

Out of continuity.

[AlistairCrane]

I think DKR still is, isn't it?

DKR is in continuity in the sense that it takes place on one of the 52 Earths, along with Batman Year One and All-Star Batman and Robin.

[nepenthes]

It's not in continuity because Selina doesn't and wouldn't drive around in a hokey cat car. That's something a Silver Age Catwoman (who lacked character development and anything even remotely resembling a complicated personality) would do.

Out of continuity.

I'm curious to how this works. Let's just say that everything else lined up....but the car was still a little hokey. Would that alone mean it's strictly non canon?

bit of a narrow view imo

Why can't it just be a nostalgic presentation of current events? Batman IS missing right? and this story seems to be focusing on that. Also if you're familiar with Gaimans style especially in Sandman, you'll recognize his sense of dreamy fantasy that disguises core truth. it's not as simple as in or out of canon.

[The Batman]

I wonder, is a Batman fan forum really the place to be calling a themed car hokey?

http://comiccoverage.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/12/19/batmobile.jpg

[Lew Moxon]

the whole thing has a kind of forties vibe to it, in terms of the style of dress, in terms of the car.

And that overall look is a far greater indication that this isn't canonical, than the kind of car Selina Kyle drives.

[Trey]

the whole thing has a kind of forties vibe to it, in terms of the style of dress, in terms of the car.

And that overall look is a far greater indication that this isn't canonical, than the kind of car Selina Kyle drives.

Sorry dude, but Gotham has always had that feel, the architecture, the suits, the cops, the gangsters. And especially the cars.

Its not a modern city. Its a fictional city.

[nepenthes]

And that overall look is a far greater indication that this isn't canonical, than the kind of car Selina Kyle drives.

ok lets just keep ignoring the fact that the title is clearly referencing batmans disappearance. i dunno but that seems pretty major to me. alot more important than "oh the car looks funny, NON CANON". Solicits have also mentioned this story is an "end of an era" in a sense similair to Moores Superman story. This ties into George Michaels comments that he'll be returning with a new status quo for Batman. this book is important to the mainline whether they dress funny or not.

[Lew Moxon]

ok lets just keep ignoring the fact that the title is clearly referencing batmans disappearance. i dunno but that seems pretty major to me. alot more important than "oh the car looks funny, NON CANON". Solicits have also mentioned this story is an "end of an era" in a sense similair to Moores Superman story. This ties into George Michaels comments that he'll be returning with a new status quo for Batman. this book is important to the mainline whether they dress funny or not.

I wasn't saying that it was obviously not in continuity, you make a pretty good case that it is-my only point was that if someone wanted to make that case it'd make more sense if the focus wasn't on a single car.

[vitruvian]

Which makes me guess this story is an Elseworlds.

Or set in the Dreaming.

[Lew Moxon]

Sorry dude, but Gotham has always had that feel, the architecture, the suits, the cops, the gangsters. And especially the cars.

Its not a modern city. Its a fictional city.

That's not always true. It's certainly the case here, and to a lesser extent TLH and other works, but depending on the writer, Gotham can look rather modern. There is no use denying that the Gotham of Year One, is 1980's New York City. There have been great Batman comics written which gave Gotham a more modern vibe.

That said, I truly do believe that a forties look suits the figures better, and the use of that imagery adds to my excitement for the story line.

[AlistairCrane]

Or set in the Dreaming.

Oh my God, if Daniel shows up, and we see Batman with Death, I'll **** all over!

[nepenthes]

I wasn't saying that it was obviously not in continuity, you make a pretty good case that it is-my only point was that if someone wanted to make that case it'd make more sense if the focus wasn't on a single car.

ah I see


I noticed something in the preview that might be relevant here....there's a giant billboard advertising Finger typewriters. Ha ha I know but it also suggests this might be a flashback of sorts. I'm pretty sure typewriters are kinda obsolete in modern day Gotham city.

[Kiryu]

Damian and Oracle both being on the cover makes me wonder about the non-cannon bits. I think I remember an IGN interview with Marts saying it would be an inbetweener type deal.

[chipsnopotatoes]

ah I see


I noticed something in the preview that might be relevant here....there's a giant billboard advertising Finger typewriters. Ha ha I know but it also suggests this might be a flashback of sorts. I'm pretty sure typewriters are kinda obsolete in modern day Gotham city.

not to mention that the guy offers to watch her car for only fifty cents! a parking garage in the city now would at least be ten bucks even in crime alley :)

[nepenthes]

a parking garage in the city now would at least be ten bucks even in crime alley :)

yeah and there'd also be a group of bums eating sandwiches and a guy with dreadlocks yelling "nice ride!" or nice coat or whatever :cool:

[Christopher Cross Is God]

Why can't it just be a nostalgic presentation of current events? Batman IS missing right? and this story seems to be focusing on that. Also if you're familiar with Gaimans style especially in Sandman, you'll recognize his sense of dreamy fantasy that disguises core truth. it's not as simple as in or out of canon.

Yeah, it seems like an abstract viewpoint on the Batman mythos. I don't see a need for wondering whether it's canon or not, at least from the preview.

It's not in continuity because Selina doesn't and wouldn't drive around in a hokey cat car. That's something a Silver Age Catwoman (who lacked character development and anything even remotely resembling a complicated personality) would do.

Out of continuity.

You're not going to point out Selina's hair-length signifying the issue is either out-of-continuity or an editorial guffaw? :wink:


not to mention that the guy offers to watch her car for only fifty cents! a parking garage in the city now would at least be ten bucks even in crime alley :)

I thought he was being sensible.

[Simon Garth]

That... actually looks pretty good. My god, DC might actually be publishing something that I want to read! At last!

[AlistairCrane]

You're not going to point out Selina's hair-length signifying the issue is either out-of-continuity or an editorial guffaw? :wink:




It goes without saying.

[Chiroptera]

Damn, I'll have to get this one just for Selina. Any chance to see her in my favorite Catwoman outfit is one I have to pounce upon.