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Seraku
01-27-2009, 04:30 PM
http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=25497
really looking forward to how this will end
Samuraixsithlord
01-27-2009, 05:42 PM
Is that Ravager?
Seraku
01-27-2009, 05:51 PM
yes .
Samuraixsithlord
01-28-2009, 03:07 PM
some spoilers.
Renee and Huntress decide to go out and get the spear (a suicide mission)
They break out of the Radiants protection, and Cain orders Catwoman and Batwoman to attack. they fight a little bit, Huntress gets stabbed in the chest with an arrow.
Cain stabs Renee with the spear, but that was the plan all along. She takes the spear from Cain and reunites Crispus with the Spectre and gives him the spear. Specre can't help those under the thrall of the ALE. But he judges the Order of Stone and incinerates all of them.
Spectre tells Cain that his god (Darkseid) will face his reckoning soon. Spectre strips Cain of his powers and marks his face so that he will be hated and despised for all eternity.
In the end we find out that Renee used the spear to bring back Allen's son from the dead.
Retro315
01-28-2009, 04:16 PM
Fantastic.
Not that I don't love the main Crisis ... but Revelations ending was a TON more satisfying.
Renee literally cured Crispus's biggest wound, and the wound that was preventing him from truly believing.
Vandal's going to have a really rough year.
A whole plaza full of Gothamites and Crime Bible Cultists (I assume including Sister Wrack) who chose to go with evil (as opposed to having Justifier helmets forced onto them) got real skeletal, real quick.
Huntress came out alright.
Renee came out alright (took one for the team in a big way though).
Catwoman and Batwoman disappeared so they can turn up later as Furies.
They don't explain in any way the jump from Radiant and Spectre recovered but in hiding, to how Mandrakk basically siphons them later (but I guess we can attribute that to the fact that thanks to the Multiversal weakening, Mandrakk has an easy time feeding on whatever energy he wants).
But they DO explain why Spectre couldn't touch Anti-Life Slaves or Libra. Or even Darkseid, if he'd dared it. The ALE Slaves, it wasn't their fault. As for the big, evil, Apokoliptan villains?
God withheld his wrath from Darkseid and the New Gods of Apokolips (Libra included) because they are false idols, and if his wrath is visited upon them, so too must his mercy be.
And God ain't giving these Apokoliptan bastards mercy.
Samuraixsithlord
01-28-2009, 04:19 PM
But they DO explain why Spectre couldn't touch Anti-Life Slaves or Libra. Or even Darkseid, if he'd dared it. The ALE Slaves, it wasn't their fault. As for the big, evil, Apokoliptan villains?
God withheld his wrath from Darkseid and the New Gods of Apokolips (Libra included) because they are false idols, and if his wrath is visited upon them, so too must his mercy be.
And God ain't giving these Apokoliptan bastards mercy.
totally didn't catch that but it makes sense.
Samuraixsithlord
01-28-2009, 04:23 PM
They don't explain in any way the jump from Radiant and Spectre recovered but in hiding, to how Mandrakk basically siphons them later (but I guess we can attribute that to the fact that thanks to the Multiversal weakening, Mandrakk has an easy time feeding on whatever energy he wants).
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Well God may be powerful, but like superman and earths heroes he's just a story of the multiverse.
The Monitors are above and outside gods influance, maybe even more powerful. So Mandrakk had an easy time feeding on the Spectre and the Radiant because God had no power over him.
Retro315
01-28-2009, 04:43 PM
Well God may be powerful, but like superman and earths heroes he's just a story of the multiverse.
The Monitors are above and outside gods influance, maybe even more powerful. So Mandrakk had an easy time feeding on the Spectre and the Radiant because God had no power over him.
What I gathered from Final Crisis # 7, is that God ... Jehovah, Allah, God ... is one of the built-in secret defenses of the Multiverse.
Earth being the cornerstone of the Multiverse, God is a hidden player in the game. He seems pretty anchored to Earth, doesn't do a lot of pushing or pulling out of our solar system, and primarily deals with humans. God might have a more specific, smaller worktable than the Monitors, but he's a separate and distinct part of the White Void itself.
After all, Nix Uotan has incredible cosmic powers and summons the Supermen of the Multiverse, allows the Green Lanterns into the pit, and summons, seemingly out of nowhere, the Angels of God - summons them, but he didn't create them.
Monitors are like the security guard at a museum. They patrol, keep an eye on Oa, and other big exhibits, and keep an eye on Earth as well, and they can let people in or out of the museum ... but God ... he's the PhD holding Archaeologist who painstakingly and caringly cleans the Earth exhibit, puts it back together when it breaks, and polishes it when it's tarnished. He never leaves the exhibit's side, and if you want to check out Earth, he knows. He's keeping his eye on you, looking over his horn-rimmed glasses.
Seraku
01-28-2009, 05:35 PM
what a great ending, a brillaint pay off for those who followed Cris and Renee's story
Alexx1
01-28-2009, 06:45 PM
I really like when I invest my time and money in a mini and you get a payoff at the end. Great, satisfiying ending!
I hope Greg will write some more Question and Huntress. I liked their exchange throughout this issue.
I was half expecting to see Huntress question Question about becoming the Question and her asking about Vic but I guess this wasn't the time or place.
Hopefully we'll get a followup at some point. These two are pretty neat in the same book!
Scott Taylor
01-28-2009, 11:19 PM
Wow, I loved this. In the midst of all of this chaos, it really turns out to be about Montoya and Allen finally getting the redemption they both needed. This is going to make me want to follow both characters even more!
The ending of this series was beautiful especially the last two pages, Rucka did an amazing job.
MWGallaher
01-29-2009, 08:58 AM
Kind of a crummy-looking home for the Allen family there at the end. Did Cris leave the family so destitute they had to move to poor rural Mississippi after his death?
Spiffy
01-29-2009, 09:12 AM
I wound up liking the end of this far more than the somewhat dissapointing middle issues.
It made sense on its own, although it also admittedly fitted pretty badly with the events developing over in the main Final Crisis books. I mean, a showdown that was litterally of biblical proportions should have been the main event, and yet in the larger context of Final Crisis it seemed to not even merit a mention. And it left us in this strange place where God was supposed to be on one side, and Darkseid and his proxies on the other. Which is not even close to the alignment of powers described in the other books, where at most, perhaps, the only hint of a monotheistic god might be some implication that he's behind the "Life Equation" that's a counter to the Anti-Life one.
But the issue itself was very touching. I especially loved Huntress--specifically because she WASN'T the focus, the protagonist the way that Renee/Question was supposed to be, so her moments of glory (plus some more subtle moments of character definition, like her discussions off to one side with the Sister) were a lot more organic.
bannermanonemillion
02-01-2009, 04:38 PM
My only question: Does this mean we're gonna get a Spectre that's actually scary to evil again? Is he done whining now? The next time the universe goes belly up (just wait) is the Spectre gonna lend a hand or is it gonna come down to Supes, GLs, etc. to save the day, y'know again?
Seraku
02-01-2009, 04:47 PM
Does this mean we're gonna get a Spectre that's actually scary to evil again? Is he done whining now? The next time the universe goes belly up (just wait) is the Spectre gonna lend a hand or is it gonna come down to Supes, GLs, etc. to save the day, y'know again?
that's what I'm guessing.
Corrigan was experienced and knew his place in the grand scheme of thing and always was right at the front lines. Cris was still unexperienced and had to learn what it meant to be the spectre before he could be of use to the heroes.
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