Marvel.com's Top Ten Fights of 2008

[Ben Morse]

The best battles of 2008 from Marvel.com!

http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.6582.Take_10~colon~_Top_Fights_of_200 8

[How 'Bout This Heat]

Can't say number 1 is a surprise..

[Make Mine Mar-Vell]

To answer the initial thread title....

I know this is a bit off the beaten path but how Captain Mar-Vell vs. the comic book industry...or more or less the naysayers that said it couldn't or shouldn't be done? If so, then I must ask you, in your hearts of hearts....who in the hell bought all those comic books in 2008?

Seems like a valid question to me.

Things that make you go.....off.

[Hrungr]

And how did Red Hulk and Thor's throwdown not make this list?? :confused:

[Ex_]

To answer the initial thread title....

I know this is a bit off the beaten path but how Captain Mar-Vell vs. the comic book industry...or more or less the naysayers that said it couldn't or shouldn't be done? If so, then I must ask you, in your hearts of hearts....who in the hell bought all those comic books in 2008?

Seems like a valid question to me.

Things that make you go.....off.

Dude, what are you even talking about?

[ComiXFanBoy]

Dude, what are you even talking about?
lol yea. i get everything marvel though

[Make Mine Mar-Vell]

Dude, what are you even talking about?

I'll try and make it as brief as possible, and I appreciate your inquiry.

Captain Marvel, the fictional character was killed off in the early 1980's after an award winning last run and was arguably the first graphic novel ever, however most newbies believe that is the character's claim to fame when it is not, actually, the character was revolutionary in it's own way, mainly crossing the sci-fi pulp of the 60's with the primary superheroic characteristics of nobility, also tackling issues of racism and alienation as well as real life disease, from an intellectual point of view. Much like other of Marvel's revolutionary character plotlines, it had it's ups and downs.

Times change.

Enter 2007-2008. The "unbreakable" rule of Marvel was to not bring him back, editor Stephen Wacker 'showhorned' in Civil War: The Return, a rather 'ballsy' move to the old "fuddy-duddies" of the industry.....which saw Mar-Vell slipping through a rift in time to the present, giving the reader the feeling of a messianic return to CW #8....which would not be....then as most bloggers fail to
acknowledge, there was a 9 month wait before Captain Marvel #1 would be realeased (11/14/07)....giving negative feedback from fans, not necessarily by fans that didn't want the character back, but the way it was handled.

Now, here's where it gets better.

The Brian Reed and Lee Weeks (often referred to as the best artwork of his illustrious career) Captain Marvel 5 issue mini series, with cover art by Ed Mc Guiness and also edited by Stephen Wacker, made a buzz on the scene, going an average of top 50 in sales, this book had not been published with the original "Mar-Vell" in over 28 years and with little promotion.

There was a seemingly confusion in creative direction after the mini series which got rave reviews, and proved that this character is very much a strong character and earned it's right to be given a fair shake. This version of Mar-Vell was revealed to not be Mar-Vell at all but a clone. (So they say, there are interprative things in the series to imply the contrary, almost as if it were stopped for some as yet to be determined political reason or pure lack of creativity.)

Something like that.

Are you seeing a pattern here?

Due to fan interest, Captain Marvel, an appearance of THE Mar-Vell, is teased on an upcoming issue of Guardians of The Galaxy, which I find interesting, because Mar-Vell was the original 'Protector of The Universe' as it were in the comic books, but this is easily accepted as yet another tease of return, which could be an interesting story in itself but has been done several times in the past, so with demostrated market why not just give it a fair shot?

It is what it is.

Marvel is Marvel. Pun intended.

[Ex_]

I'll try and make it as brief as possible, and I appreciate your inquiry.

Captain Marvel, the fictional character was killed off in the early 1980's after an award winning last run and was arguably the first graphic novel ever, however most newbies believe that is the character's claim to fame when it is not, actually, the character was revolutionary in it's own way, mainly crossing the sci-fi pulp of the 60's with the primary superheroic characteristics of nobility, also tackling issues of racism and alienation as well as real life disease, from an intellectual point of view. Much like other of Marvel's revolutionary character plotlines, it had it's ups and downs.

Times change.

Enter 2007-2008. The "unbreakable" rule of Marvel was to not bring him back, editor Stephen Wacker 'showhorned' in Civil War: The Return, which saw Mar-Vell slipping through a rift in time to the present, giving the reader the feeling of a messianic return to CW #8....which would not be....then as most bloggers fail to
acknowledge, there was a 9 month wait before Captain Marvel #1 would be realeased (11/14/07)....giving negative feedback from fans, not necessarily by fans that didn't want the character back, but the way it was handled.

Now, here's where it gets better.

The Brian Reed and Lee Weeks (often referred to as the best artwork of his illustrious career) Captain Marvel 5 issue mini series, with cover art by Ed Mc Guiness and also edited by Stephen Wacker, made a buzz on the scene, going an average of top 50 in sales, this book had not been published with the original "Mar-Vell" in over 28 years and with little promotion.

There was a seemingly confusion in creative direction after the mini series which got rave reviews, and proved that this character is very much a strong character and earned it's right to be given a fair shake.

Something like that.

Who is to say they don't bring him back and bastardize him again? Wouldn't you be screaming at them for destroying the character?

[Assemble]

Pretty fair list.... X-force vs. Purifiers should've been closer to one, but who cares... a good list.

[Omega Alpha]

#9 should easily have been number one.

[Make Mine Mar-Vell]

Who is to say they don't bring him back and bastardize him again? Wouldn't you be screaming at them for destroying the character?

Nah...all titles are cyclical, at least the character would be back, at least we could have that conversation. Does that mean if there were something I didn't like I wouldn't say something? Hell no, but the character has to be back to even have those conversations.

[Big Red Spider]

#1 made me lol.

I think my favorite fight of the year would be black panther vs skrulls or stature vs ant man.