Hancock 2: Pre-Show Commentary

[Jigsaw]

I loved the first movie, and thought the origins were really brilliant, and Smith was just awesome as a drunken superhero. He's confirmed a sequel to be in the works, and I'm really anxious to see what it'll be about, since the character is new with no real super-villains.

Can a Mod edit the title to say Hancock 2?

[Spidey-kid1]

I want a real super villain with powers for him to duke it out with in the middle of NYC in some huge epic brawl that takes down sky scrapers and destroys sections of the city. Though I probably wont get it.

[Jigsaw]

Don't be so sure, I think it'd be a real cop out to have another movie of only ordinary criminals. The first movie was about his origins, and why he is the way he is, so if the second movie isn't about him duking it out with another godly being, it's essentially a waste.

[Legato]

Don't be so sure, I think it'd be a real cop out to have another movie of only ordinary criminals. The first movie was about his origins, and why he is the way he is, so if the second movie isn't about him duking it out with another godly being, it's essentially a waste.

A waste of my time if another movie involves Hancock fighting ordinary criminals again.

I wouldn't mind seeing another godly being like Hancock but uses his powers for more violent ways. Like he could be a terrorist or something in contrast to Hancock using his abilities to save people

[Legato]

So besides Smith anyone else from the first movie going to return in this? I doubt Theron would

[StoneGold]

Except the only part of Hancock that wasn't a waste was when he was still a drunk. I guess you could have him relapse, but after he sobered up, the character arc was kind of over. Sadly, there was still a good chunk of the movie left.

[Toku King]

As I said before, give it a "Superman 2" feel. The first one was the kick-off, so now is the time when you have the hero in ever deeper crap than before. We've seen a mastermind, now give us someone that is physically superior to Hancock in every way, shape, and form.

You know what might be awesome? If they do a "New Krypton"-esque film in which Hancock's race comes back, but now claims the earth for themselves. Then it would be Hancock and Mary versus a million batshit crazy supers of their own race.

[Legato]

As I said before, give it a "Superman 2" feel. The first one was the kick-off, so now is the time when you have the hero in ever deeper crap than before. We've seen a mastermind, now give us someone that is physically superior to Hancock in every way, shape, and form.

You know what might be awesome? If they do a "New Krypton"-esque film in which Hancock's race comes back, but now claims the earth for themselves. Then it would be Hancock and Mary versus a million batshit crazy supers of their own race.

The problem with that is if you put a million god beings like Hancock and Mary together that weakness would take effect and would kinda make that fight anti-climatic.

It would be nice seeing Mary and Hancock join forces this time around but you have that whole weakness issue.

Im not sure if Hancock is even from another planet. Mary and Hancock implied that they was made on Earth but probably from a civilization that is closed off from human civilization.

[Your Imaginary Pal]

will smith and sequels don't seem to mix well.

Though I can only think of the MIB franchise to support this statement, I think it speaks volumes against the possiblity of an enjoyable movie.

There are alot of places this movie can go, it's tied to nothing really. But as was mentioned earlier, the charm of the character was in his dysfunction. With that gone you get a nice guy in Hancock. And that's not so much fun.

[Jigsaw]

As I said before, give it a "Superman 2" feel. The first one was the kick-off, so now is the time when you have the hero in ever deeper crap than before. We've seen a mastermind, now give us someone that is physically superior to Hancock in every way, shape, and form.

You know what might be awesome? If they do a "New Krypton"-esque film in which Hancock's race comes back, but now claims the earth for themselves. Then it would be Hancock and Mary versus a million batshit crazy supers of their own race.

Stupid idea. For one, Hancock isn't Superman. Second of all, she blatantly explains that the others paired up and died, so what makes you think a million of them wouldn't lose their powers, and then be blown to hell by our army?

Again, this idea is so stupid that it's ridiculous. In any case, I'd like a superpowered villain that is from a different alien race of some sort. In any case, as far as Theron is concerned, her returning could go either way, same for Bateman. They were central to developing the origins, but I don't think they may be as important the second go around.

[Legato]

So says the "Jumper" fan.

Having all of Hancock's race would be cool, and even if it wouldn't, your little rant was uncalled for.

That I agree. Either if the poster agrees or not the personal attack was unecessary

[The Watcher]

The problem with that is if you put a million god beings like Hancock and Mary together that weakness would take effect and would kinda make that fight anti-climatic.
They don't get weaker in the proximity of all of those like themselves, just their intended mate.

Speaking of their origins, the back story of Hancock's kind seems to be mystical in nature. Perhaps the villain for the sequel will be some sort of magician or perhaps someone who finds an artifact crafted by whoever created Hancock.

[Legato]

They don't get weaker in the proximity of all of those like themselves, just their intended mate.

Speaking of their origins, the back story of Hancock's kind seems to be mystical in nature. Perhaps the villain for the sequel will be some sort of magician or perhaps someone who finds an artifact crafted by whoever created Hancock.

If this movie could be a potential trilogy I wouldn't mind more info on the person who created Mary and Hancock. Like is the person who created them a alien or maybe a god himself

[kalorama]

will smith and sequels don't seem to mix well.

Though I can only think of the MIB franchise to support this statement, I think it speaks volumes against the possiblity of an enjoyable movie.

Given that he's only appeared in two sequels (MIB 2 and Bad Boys 2) in the almost 20 years he's been making movies, it doesn't really speak volumes about anything.

[Jigsaw]

Getting back to Charlize not returning, now that I think about it, she might not, due to her wanting to live a normal life. I think she'd only team up with Hancock if her family was threatened and she absolutely needed to.

[Legato]

Getting back to Charlize not returning, now that I think about it, she might not, due to her wanting to live a normal life. I think she'd only team up with Hancock if her family was threatened and she absolutely needed to.

That and I honestly doubt that Hancock would want to risk her getting almost killed again. The only way I can see Hancock being willing to team up with her is if he finds a way that they could work together but not really working close to eachother to the point that their weakness will take effect

[Jigsaw]

Charlize said in the special features that for their powers to go away, they have to connect both emotionally and physically. That would explain why he went so long without getting weak, but the longer she was around him, the more she seemed to be attracted to him, even though she tried to repel her love for him for both their sakes. Maybe if they don't connect emotionally they'll be okay?

[Black Atom]

Hancock was really only interesting when he was a drunk, amoral, fuck-up Superman. You could make a couple of interesting movies about that sort of character--a sort of anti-hero who is obligated to help because of his tremendous power, but really would rather be doing almost anything else.

Unfortunately, there's really nothing in Hancock that would make me want to see a Hancock 2. I'd rather see Jumper 2.

[Jigsaw]

The movie was meant to show him change from a drunk hero to someone respectable. Truthfully, the whole drunk aspect would get boring after one film.

[Black Atom]

The movie was meant to show him change from a drunk hero to someone respectable. Truthfully, the whole drunk aspect would get boring after one film.

But now that he's respectable, he's just Superman with a worse costume.

A movie about a guy as powerful as Superman who likes to get drunk, go to strip clubs, cuss etc but is basically a good guy deep down would be entertaining.

[StoneGold]

But now that he's respectable, he's just Superman with a worse costume.

A movie about a guy as powerful as Superman who likes to get drunk, go to strip clubs, cuss etc but is basically a good guy deep down would be entertaining.

Or even better, who wasn't really a good guy. You could get Garth Ennis to write it.

[Pól Rua]

REALLY? Hancock 2?
I mean, crap, the first one was all pitch and no plot.
Oh look, it's a superhero who's a drunken bum!

The only thing even remotely compelling about it was when the second superhuman was revealed... I admit, I didn't see it coming, but seriously, this film said pretty much all it had to say in the trailer.

[P-Man]

The only thing even remotely compelling about it was when the second superhuman was revealed... I admit, I didn't see it coming, but seriously, this film said pretty much all it had to say in the trailer.

They gave that away in a commercial for the DVD. Why they would keep it hush hush for the whole theatrical run and then give it away in a DVD add I do not know, but I saw that prior to watching and so the twist was wasted on me.

[Jigsaw]

But now that he's respectable, he's just Superman with a worse costume.

A movie about a guy as powerful as Superman who likes to get drunk, go to strip clubs, cuss etc but is basically a good guy deep down would be entertaining.

Even after he started changing his behavior, Hancock was nothing like Superman, and a movie about a drunk idiot for a superhero is only entertaining for so long. The direction of the film was perfect for me, and turned out a lot better than I had envisioned.

[Your Imaginary Pal]

What needs to be addressed in the second film to make the continuing story interesting and still fresh?

A villain worthy of his powers. It was a nice touch to heve Hancock be depowered in the first film, but his enemy had nothing to do with it. He wasn't especially a threat. We need to see a badguy who is a powerful, a challenge to Hancock, or really cunning. Definitely imposing. Setting up many traps and obstacles for Hancock to show his strengths and other powers.

[lou-bert vs. q-bert]

Sweet lord, the movie doesn't need a sequel. I would prefer a prequel, since we didn't even get the necessary flashbacks in the movie.

[Jigsaw]

Why do we need a prequel? It'd be too cliche and almost seem like they're trying to fit into some sort of trend. Everything that needed to be explained was explained by Mary & Hancock in the first film. Enough with prequels for every franchise, keep the momentum forward, and show him going up against badguys of his caliber.

If anything, bring in the guy who created his race, which would be pretty cool. His creator returns and creates some badass villain for Hancock to fight.

[lou-bert vs. q-bert]

Why do we need a prequel? It'd be too cliche and almost seem like they're trying to fit into some sort of trend. Everything that needed to be explained was explained by Mary & Hancock in the first film. Enough with prequels for every franchise, keep the momentum forward, and show him going up against badguys of his caliber.I understand your point, but who is to say he didn't encounter badguys of his caliber way back when? I would also like to see how their marriage progressed, what dangers and prejudice (as super beings, not race) they encountered. That's just me.

Hell, I would even like to see more of drunken vagrant Hancock, and not through YouTube videos.

[Jigsaw]

I dunno, if he did, why didn't Mary say anything? And if he did, he doesn't remember, so they still have to introduce a supervillain nonetheless.

[the goddamn batman]

Where'd this "creator" thing come from? Were they a 'created' race or what? Was there something in the movie I missed or is this a DVD extra thing?

[Jigsaw]

Mary says they were all built in pairs during the movie.

[the goddamn batman]

Oh right... totally forgot that.