American Idol

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Its the 8th season of AI tonight. Thus far Twon (I believe thats how ya spell it) has been knocked away. Dude had some wild freaky hair.


Anyhow they have added a 4th judge and the table seems to be full of people.


Wow this chick singing "Barracuda" is pretty fucking awesome. Yeah a good rocker chick ! She's possibly killing the band she's in since they are booked for a European tour. Ohhh damn.

She is a Chris Daughtry type as she claims. Emily goes on and has to inform her band that she won't be touring.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Dear god ....Randy the crying rocker. The guy cried waiting , he cried during his audition and he cried after it. Dear lord....could you imagine him in Hollywood crying his ass off ?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Holy fuck what the hell is Michael singing ? The guy seems to be making weird noises and as Simon said ...its like he's in pain or something.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

X-Ray whatever the hell your on....can I get some. I mean what the hell was that ? The whole dancing , waving your hands and singing ....WTF ?

Arianna ....ok she passed and is 16. I gotta admit she has a good voice. Not a fan of that song.

Ok why would someone wear a bikini and hope Simon passes them for having great tits and ass ? I mean I applaud giving my eyes a good sight ...but come on.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Ohhh man Elijah....that was....wow. The guys voice as Paula said is built for cartoon voice over work. WOW.


Lea Marie is the pink cowgirl . I honestly can't be mad or think she's silly. I mean she's 16 and has written 100 songs. And she seems all bubbly happy. Her voice needs work as they all agree. She remains happy and says next year !

Stevie Wright is up next and is named after Stevie Nicks. Whoa ...she passes. Suprised me a lot here. She will go on to Hollywood as Simon teases her she has to get mean !

Jeremy the roughneck shocks everyone. The man works a hard job away from home days a week and passes. Nice story...hope he wins.

And the bikini girl comes on ! And Simon votes her forward as does Randy. Now Paula and the new female judge battle it out ha ha. Katrina ...thats her name passes. And she gives us a stripper bounce when she makes it !:tongue:

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Ok ladies cool yourself ok....SEXUAL CHOCOLATE is on. Whew Hollywood couldn't contain SEXUAL CHOCOLATE as he loses. God I bet the women of America are on a sucide watch.

Brianna is full of energy ... 'OHH MY GOSH"

Its kinda scary....can Brianna do this show ? Her nerves had her really frazzled there and it took her awhile to come in and do the song. She passed by a slim margin.

Deanna came alone and grabbed some other people to be support if she loses or makes it. Deanna has some great eyes. I mean thats some nice eyes she has on her. She calls her mom and thanks her. ahhhh


Cody looks like my little cousin. And he loves horror movies. Cody passes on as I really wasn't caring. I expected some DEATH METAL type singing or Rob Zombie. :tongue:

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Simon is SHOCKED. I mean shocked this self taught singer actually sang in pitch and all. The man got jokes for coming outta the closet ...since he learned to sing in the closet. Alex passes.

Dear god thats some torturing of Bon Jovi. Wow....thats a lot of bad horrible "Wanted , Dead or Alive" singing.

And Scott has to be an American Idol 1st. A blind man who is singing on AI. He graduated college at 14 and has been to London. He passes since they loved his voice...nice.


And thats it for tonights show. :wink:

[Cam63]

Paula Abdul is still on the show !?

...How !?

[The Black Guardian]

Some pretty good singers so far, but these auditions were kind of boring compared to previous years. Maybe Phoenix just doesn't have many wackos or their wackos are more tame than other places.

Emily ("Baracuda" girl) has my support. She's not likely to win though, because America can't handle rocker chicks. And her band is going to hate her now.

Arianna was just so cute and bubbly. If she doesn't self-destruct, she'll go far.

Brianna could go far if she calms her nerves some.

Katrina (the bikini girl) probably won't last long in Hollywood... at least not on AI.

Stevie and Deanna seem like the two to beat.

The guys were alright, I guess, especially Scott (the blind guy). I was just noticing, though, that all of male winners of past seasons have kind of died in their careers (remains to be seen how long David whatshisname will be around).

Cody looks just emo enough to have the girls squealing. This year's David Archuletta?

Alex looks kind of nerdy, but he'll clean up nice enough to attract whatever girls Cody doesn't.

Jeremy (the roughneck) will get the mature girls/women.

[Phil Clark]

Bikini girl was just an arrogant bitch. Typical "I'm sexy, I deserve this" attitude. She will bring drama for a little while, which is pretty much why I think Simon voted her through. She will crash a burn quickly in Hollywood.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Bikini girl was just an arrogant bitch. Typical "I'm sexy, I deserve this" attitude. She will bring drama for a little while, which is pretty much why I think Simon voted her through. She will crash a burn quickly in Hollywood.

Yeah, but really, she didn't sing all that badly. And besides, they ALL have that attitude. Don't let the ones with the "sweet as pie" exterior facade fool you. They're all arrogant little snots.

I think Kara was seriously either peeved over the outfit or just being catty. Either way, her getting up and trying to outdo her in that cheesy Mariah ballad was cringeworthy. Settle down, newb.

[The Black Guardian]

Bikini Girl can sing, but pretty much all of the other girls are 1) better singers and 2) better looking. I do think she deserved a trip to LA and that Kara and Paula were peeved over her outfit. To be honest, I'm not even sure how genuine those feelings were, or if Kara and Paula put on a front to stir up fake controversy.

Anyway, I'm doubtful Bikini Girl will make it to the real competition, but if she does, she won't last long in the real competition.

Add: As for Bikini Girl's arrogance, I think she's too arrogant, and that will play a role in her downfall.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

All I know is that if Emily loses out to the bikini babe with the nice ass , I'll be sad for the show.

[The Black Guardian]

This is American Idol. You should be sad for this show by default. Emily might be too much of a rocker chick for AI.

[marshal99]

I think blind dude will make the top 12 and once audience voting comes in , he'll go all the wayyyy.

[Howard Allan]

Its the 8th season of AI tonight. Thus far Twon (I believe thats how ya spell it) has been knocked away. Dude had some wild freaky hair.


Anyhow they have added a 4th judge and the table seems to be full of people.


Wow this chick singing "Barracuda" is pretty fucking awesome. Yeah a good rocker chick ! She's possibly killing the band she's in since they are booked for a European tour. Ohhh damn.

She is a Chris Daughtry type as she claims. Emily goes on and has to inform her band that she won't be touring.


I just want this show to die. Fast and Horribly. Someone announce that Simon Cowel is a serial killer or something, so this abomination can be destroyed. I've had it with shows like this or so called reality shows like Survivor or Big Brother. This is putrid TV.

[suttercain]

I think blind dude will make the top 12 and once audience voting comes in , he'll go all the wayyyy.

He was the only one who stood out to me. Other than the bikini girl, but she stuck out for different reasons. The guy though is talented, smart and humble. Pretty good mix.

[xnef1025]

Is it wrong to want the blind guy in there just to see how the producers shoe horn him into the group dance numbers... and the Ford commercials?

[The Black Guardian]

Bikini girl was just an arrogant bitch. Typical "I'm sexy, I deserve this" attitude. She will bring drama for a little while, which is pretty much why I think Simon voted her through. She will crash a burn quickly in Hollywood.
Boy, were you right! Too arrogant to practice. Too arrogant to get up on time. Apparently, too arrogant to appreciate her superiors in talent, too. Did you see the appalled looks the judges gave her when she didn't even offer a congratulating hug to the girl in her group that actually got through? Ah well... good riddance.

Sad to see Emily Wynne-Hughes (Barracuda girl) leave, but my hopes weren't that high for her. Between her recent alcohol-related trouble and pictures of her flashing her ass roaming the Net, she's clearly too much of a party girl for AI. I might keep an ear out for the band she's in, Go Betty Go, though.

Glad to see Stevie "named after Stevie Nicks" Wright is still in, as is Scott "blind guy" MacIntyre.

[nervmeister]

Does anyone on this board have a youtube clip of that one contestant singing Mad World?

[marshal99]

That 16 year old Jasmine is going to go far , even as her group was disfunctional (the one with bikini girl) , she stood out like a beacon and her voice is spotless.

[Anna]

Following last night's revelation of American Idol's top 36 comes the announcement that Joanna Pacitti of Philadelphia is ineligible to continue. She will be replaced by Felicia Barton of Virginia Beach, Va.

http://www.wonderwall.com/movies/American-Idol-contestant-disqualified-1510259.story%3F%26rnd%3D1234462384933

Miss Pacetti has had a major label deal in the past, and has been featured on a couple of movie soundtracks: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1868707/

She has also allegedly works with members of Idol's production staff.

I personally would have liked to see Jamar in the top 36.

[marshal99]

Top 36

http://images.teamsugar.com/files/upl2/1/13839/07_2009/83ce009550c0b00b_idoltop36.preview.jpg

[marshal99]

Idol lookalike.

Matt Breitze & Matt Bloom aka A-train in the WWE
http://ecwfrenchtribute.free.fr/HTLM/Photos/Photos_A/A-Train/A-Train_-_Matt_Bloom_01.jpg

Megan Corkrey reminds me of Reese Witherspoon
http://media.americanidol.com/contestants/season_8/top_36/megan_corkrey.jpghttp://www.topnews.in/light/files/reese_witherspoon_0.jpg

Of course , Kristen McNamara is like Anna Faris
http://www.evilbeetgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/anna_faces3.jpg

[marshal99]

More idol lookalikes

Kai Kalama & "Sayid" from Lost.

http://media.americanidol.com/photos/553/40135.jpghttp://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2008/02/Sayid.jpg

[marshal99]

Well , the first 3 to the top 12. Alexis & Danny deservedly went through but Michael only got through i feel because of Simon Cowell's comments , he's pretty average.

I kind of feel bad for Tatiana , she behave herself and was much more subdued , dignified and reserved and she actually sang decently unlike some of the others who were pretty bad. Hopefully she'll have a 2nd chance at the wildcard round.

[Phil Clark]

Hopefully she'll have a 2nd chance at the wildcard round.

Oh god please no... She is a total freakin' drama queen. Most of the contestants who were eliminated reacted maturely, congratulating those who made it and consoling those who didn't. Tatiana tried to hide and tried to get a pity party going.

She needs to go home and grow up a bit before trying this again. She should have been booted by the other contestants in Hollywood when she left her group to go to another group, then decided that wasn't working and went back to her original group.

And when they pulled her out of one room and put her in another, everyone in the second room was like "Crap, we're out"... you could see it in their faces as soon as she walked in.

Save Jackie. Save Anoop. Save ANYONE but Tatiana.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I hope Tatiana is gone. Talk about acting like a complete loon when she was voted in. Her crazy fucked up laughing to herself , walking and saying "Oh God" between the crazy laugh had me thinking she was disturbed.

[Anna]

They focused on her too much. Isn't one of the guys coming up a (Nate) drama queen too? IIRC he looked shocked when she said she'd made the top 36.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

They focused on her too much. Isn't one of the guys coming up a (Nate) drama queen too? IIRC he looked shocked when she said she'd made the top 36.

One of them is an actor....and he is split on being a comedian or doing singing. I believe he's the same one were discussing. He showed up as this zany character and Simon voted no...but he actually sung well and they all voted him on.

Simon said something close to this : "Theres a worry your gonna try and shift back into your comedy character in this compition . Can you honestly try and be yourself the entire way ?"

[Anna]

One of them is an actor....and he is split on being a comedian or doing singing. I believe he's the same one were discussing. He showed up as this zany character and Simon voted no...but he actually sung well and they all voted him on.

Simon said something close to this : "Theres a worry your gonna try and shift back into your comedy character in this compition . Can you honestly try and be yourself the entire way ?"

That's Nick/Norman. I'm talking about a guy (Nate?) who said he'd been in foster care, and was freaking out when his group was fighting, and cried a lot; especially after being put through a sing off. Helluva voice, but could be as annoying as Tatiana.

[marshal99]

Oh god please no... She is a total freakin' drama queen. Most of the contestants who were eliminated reacted maturely, congratulating those who made it and consoling those who didn't. Tatiana tried to hide and tried to get a pity party going.

She needs to go home and grow up a bit before trying this again. She should have been booted by the other contestants in Hollywood when she left her group to go to another group, then decided that wasn't working and went back to her original group.

And when they pulled her out of one room and put her in another, everyone in the second room was like "Crap, we're out"... you could see it in their faces as soon as she walked in.

Save Jackie. Save Anoop. Save ANYONE but Tatiana.

There's no doubt that Tatiana is self centered but she did make an effort to rein in her personality and was very subdued unlike her auditions and hollywood week , and i have to say that she performed better than Jackie on the night. Half of the contestants were pretty dissapointing , they had so many months to prepare and decide what they are going to sing and practice and yet the likes of Stevie wright & carly carlson picked the wrong songs and sang horribly.

The 2nd group , my early favorite would be jasmine providing that she don't picked the wrong song and screwed it up. That girl is a natural at 16.

[xnef1025]

Yes, Nate is the drama queen. He's almost as annoying as Tatiana, possibly moreso for me since I don't know if he has the voice to back it up since I missed his audtions and his group was a trainwreck.

Sarver making it in over Anoop was a shock. I almost thought Tatiana had pulled off the upset over Gokey when Paula seemed like she was going to cry before the commercial. I thought it was because she couldn't believe Danny was going to lose out to the crazy, but then it just turned out she was scared she would gain a new stalker. It's a shame that voice wasn't on somebody sane.

[Anna]

Yes, Nate is the drama queen. He's almost as annoying as Tatiana, possibly moreso for me since I don't know if he has the voice to back it up since I missed his audtions and his group was a trainwreck.

Sarver making it in over Anoop was a shock. I almost thought Tatiana had pulled off the upset over Gokey when Paula seemed like she was going to cry before the commercial. I thought it was because she couldn't believe Danny was going to lose out to the crazy, but then it just turned out she was scared she would gain a new stalker. It's a shame that voice wasn't on somebody sane.


Nate has a good voice, it's just.....

[Anna]

Could someone refresh me on what happens with wildcards? Do the judges pick three people, or are several singers invited back for us to vote on?

[marshal99]

Oh my goodness , there goes my pick - Jasmine Murray. Don't know what happened to her , she choose a terrible song and her voice dips up and down , she has the voice but she brought her worse performance to the table. Don't think she can make it now since some of the other female singers actually sang better.

Seemed like a lot of these top 36 contestants brought their most mediocre performances to the table , it's strange to say the least.

[Anna]

If you take Dialidol seriously; Adam and Allison will go through, with either Jessie or Matt G in third place.

I liked Kai.

[marshal99]

Allison is like a young Kelly Clarkson. Whether she can adapt to singing other types of music is debatable.

[xnef1025]

You know the producers are just gaga over Allison. Those kind of pipes and she's OMG! 16!. Plenty of time and probably impressionable enough to mold into a money machine. I'd drop 99 cents for the full length studio version of her singing "Alone" if I had an Ipod.

Adam's performance was fun and theatrical. I wish the judges would stop throwing that out like a negative criticism. If I'm gonna look at you singing, I want you to put on a show. Move around; make faces for the back row; be interesting dammit! Otherwise I'll forget you in about you 10 seconds after your done. Like that other guy that sang "Man in the Mirror". Chris? I liked him, but he's like nice wallpaper. You appreciate that it's there and makes the room prettier, but after a few seconds it's only on a subconcious level.

While I am glad 3 actual singers are going through to the next round on this singing competition, a little evil part of me is sad Nick isn't going on. Watching what few illusions of legitimacy the show maintains be whittled away week by week as he went further and further would have been entertaining. The new format was all that allowed him to get this far though. "Serious" voters still outweigh Worsters by a large enough majority to ensure there was no way someone like Nick or Tatiana would get through.

I'm sure we'll see a number of the folks from last night's second hour in the wild card competition.

[marshal99]

No , Tatiana actually has a good voice and she can sing unlike "norman gentle" nick.

[Anna]

You know the producers are just gaga over Allison. Those kind of pipes and she's OMG! 16!. Plenty of time and probably impressionable enough to mold into a money machine. I'd drop 99 cents for the full length studio version of her singing "Alone" if I had an Ipod.

Adam's performance was fun and theatrical. I wish the judges would stop throwing that out like a negative criticism. If I'm gonna look at you singing, I want you to put on a show. Move around; make faces for the back row; be interesting dammit! Otherwise I'll forget you in about you 10 seconds after your done. Like that other guy that sang "Man in the Mirror". Chris? I liked him, but he's like nice wallpaper. You appreciate that it's there and makes the room prettier, but after a few seconds it's only on a subconcious level.

While I am glad 3 actual singers are going through to the next round on this singing competition, a little evil part of me is sad Nick isn't going on. Watching what few illusions of legitimacy the show maintains be whittled away week by week as he went further and further would have been entertaining. The new format was all that allowed him to get this far though. "Serious" voters still outweigh Worsters by a large enough majority to ensure there was no way someone like Nick or Tatiana would get through.

I'm sure we'll see a number of the folks from last night's second hour in the wild card competition.

I don't have an ipod either; I just put the songs on my computer. Play 'em during long work sessions, or make a playlist for guests.

No , Tatiana actually has a good voice and she can sing unlike "norman gentle" nick.


The problem with Tatiana is that she's a drama queen, and it turns a lot of people off. This is the same problem with next week's Nate (as well as the fact that there's a couple of really strong guys in his group.)

[titanfan]

I heart both Tatiana and Norman. Seriously, this group of 36 is crappy, neither one had bad vocals and both are interesting. Most of the finalists so far are pretty "blah" to me.

I think there is a wildcard show with the judges picking 3 wildcards. There's speculation that the "twist" will be the Top 12 is really the Top 13, with 4 wildcards chosen. (One from each judge)

[Anna]

Can anyone tell me the name of the song playing at the beginning montage?

[Anna]

Some pictures of Adam Lambert.

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2009/03/adam-lambert-flamboyant-american-idol-finalist/

[titanfan]

I was really chuckling @ people on the idol forums who were genuinely shocked about Adam Lambert being openly gay.

Group 3 was better than the first groups. Extremely male dominated, which means I think we see at least two females going through. This Top 12 *needs* Tatiana! I know some find her personality irritating, but she's one of the few contestants that have genuinely been interesting this season--and I think she can sing. I was happy they gave her another chance.

[Anna]

I was really chuckling @ people on the idol forums who were genuinely shocked about Adam Lambert being openly gay.

Group 3 was better than the first groups. Extremely male dominated, which means I think we see at least two females going through. This Top 12 *needs* Tatiana! I know some find her personality irritating, but she's one of the few contestants that have genuinely been interesting this season--and I think she can sing. I was happy they gave her another chance.


Her voice is fair, but she's too irritating. It stopped being funny weeks ago.

[marshal99]

Tatiana killed her own chances with the judges , first by singing the same song (and even then , her performance wasn't as good as her group 1 performance with that spanish accent coming out in the beginning) , then trying to justify it and arguing with simon. Dumb broad.

At least my initial pick , Jasmine Murray made it through. 10x better than her group 2 performance but still not her best performance , still a bit pitchy in parts at the beginning but she can still improve and she definitely has the vocals.

Megan is quirky and she has that funny little arm/hip swinging that she does when she sings , her vocals is suited for a more folksy style of singing than the rest , because of that , not sure her vocals will be able to handle all the other genres that well though.

Not feeling on Matt G , the guy has already released 2 independent albums. Sounds like a clone of Elliot , only worse.

[titanfan]

Honestly, I think the Final 13 "twist" was meant for Tatiana, but she blew it with her song choice.

That said, I didn't think Megan/Matt/Anoop did much better. I had a strong feeling that the judges knew who they wanted all along and then just used the show to justify it.

I think this is the worst Top 12/13 in the history of the franchise. Too many contestants with sob stories being paraded around trying to muster sympathy votes. Meanwhile the other half is boring and a bunch of them can't sing. Danny Gokey is clearly the chosen one, but whether he'll have the vocal chops to take it all remains to be seen...

[Anna]

Danny clearly is the man to beat. Adam's choice tonight was different; I kind of liked it. Megan just irritates me.

[Shade]

Danny clearly is the man to beat. Adam's choice tonight was different; I kind of liked it. Megan just irritates me.

Adam showed incredible range and control....but I'm a purist and you don't F' with Johnny Cash.

[Anna]

While we bid Megan goodbye; let's congratulate La Keisha on her pregnancy. :smile:

[Phil Clark]

Adam showed incredible range and control....but I'm a purist and you don't F' with Johnny Cash.

Dude, let it go. That was one song three weeks ago. And it was cool as freakin' hell... But it was three weeks ago.

Adam is the person to beat this year. Danny will give him a run for his money, but the final two will be Danny and Adam.

[jessecuster3]

I am not sure you can rule Chris out. If he keeps his John Mayer/Jason Mraz/etc. thing going, he could win it all.

[Phil Clark]

I can agree with you there. Chris has really come on strong the past two weeks. Scott on the other hand is not improving, not taking chances, and not much longer for the competition if he doesn't start stepping it up.

[jessecuster3]

Yeah, at the top of their game, I can see the final 5 being Lil, Danny, Chris, Adam, Allison, with Matt left in the cold. Those 5 really make an excellent competition with each other, too.

I think Danny still has a bad week ahead. I am still unsure of who really has what it takes to become a Carrie or Kelly. I think it may only be Allison.

[Anna]

For some reason Allison's been in the bottom three twice now.

Megan's performance last night reminded me of Jason Castro's departure.

[Dark Galaxy]

For some reason Allison's been in the bottom three twice now.

Megan's performance last night reminded me of Jason Castro's departure.


That's what my husband and I said last night. She was ready to go.

[Anna]

That's what my husband and I said last night. She was ready to go.

Last night Mom called to ask me what happenedas she missed the show. She thought I was telling her a late April Fool's joke.

[Phil Clark]

For some reason Allison's been in the bottom three twice now.

Megan's performance last night reminded me of Jason Castro's departure.

And talk about ironic, Jason was in the audience.

[Anna]

Condolences to David Cook, whose brother died this week.

And congratulations to Constantine who just scored a Tony nomination.

[jessecuster3]

Yay! Kris made it to the finals, now he just has to beat the screecher to win it all.

[Anna]

Yay! Kris made it to the finals, now he just has to beat the screecher to win it all.

The only way Kris wins is if Fox panics and supresses Adam's vote. He's as boring as milk, and does not deserve the win. :mad:

[Matt Algren]

Yay! Kris made it to the finals, now he just has to beat the screecher to win it all.
You mean the one with ridiculous control of his upper register not seen since Mick Jagger?

[4thHorseman]

You mean the one with ridiculous control of his upper register not seen since Mick Jagger?

Yes, but at least Jagger...you know...sounds good.

[kmeyers]

Yay! Kris made it to the finals, now he just has to beat the screecher to win it all.

Yeah, I hope he does it too. I'm totally sick of Adam's screeching and sticking out his tongue. Over the course of the show, he's had a few really good songs, but the screeching is beyond annoying now.

[Matt Algren]

Yes, but at least Jagger...you know...sounds good.
You need to get your ears checked.

[jessecuster3]

The only way Kris wins is if Fox panics and supresses Adam's vote. He's as boring as milk, and does not deserve the win. :mad:

Baloney! Kris has loads of personality and is the first Idol finalist that I can honestly say I would go out of my way to buy their CD.

You mean the one with ridiculous control of his upper register not seen since Mick Jagger?

Its screechy and I am over it.

[Anna]

Baloney! Kris has loads of personality and is the first Idol finalist that I can honestly say I would go out of my way to buy their CD.



Its screechy and I am over it.

Adam is prime rib to Kris' meat loaf.

[4thHorseman]

You need to get your ears checked.

I have. Their bleeding.

[jessecuster3]

Adam is prime rib to Kris' meat loaf.

If Adam is any food product, he is definitely Velveeta.

[Matt Algren]

Adam is prime rib to Kris' meat loaf.
Kris is fine. I just think that Adam is in a whole different league.

[titanfan]

Constantine got a Tony nomination? (Now there was a screecher if I remember right)

I'd be happy with either Kris or Adam winning. Both would be good reasons, for different reasons.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Comparing someone from American Idol to a great legend like Jagger is pretty funny. I mean I don't care who wins. But now I want the dude who sounds like Jagger to win personally. :tongue:

[Chiasm]

I like Adam and Kris for completely different reasons. I just wish Allison had made the top 3 instead of Scream On Gokey.

I think Adam should get the win but I think Kris will pull the upset. If there was really only 1,000,000 votes between Adam and Kris last week then the Gokey fans are going to determine the winner. And its been my theory for a while that the reason Gokey made it so far despite his lack of any really good performances was because he was the anti-Adam in that he's straight, he's a devout christian, and he's got a good sob story. The segment of America, you know the Randy Travis types, who are horrified by a man who wears guyliner and sets off gaydar alarms nationwide would obviously then rally around his polar opposite in Gokey. Now that Gokey is gone they'll go for Kris Allen who is also a devout christian. The difference being that Kris is actually talented which will be enough for the upset.

[Anna]

I like Adam and Kris for completely different reasons. I just wish Allison had made the top 3 instead of Scream On Gokey.

I think Adam should get the win but I think Kris will pull the upset. If there was really only 1,000,000 votes between Adam and Kris last week then the Gokey fans are going to determine the winner. And its been my theory for a while that the reason Gokey made it so far despite his lack of any really good performances was because he was the anti-Adam in that he's straight, he's a devout christian, and he's got a good sob story. The segment of America, you know the Randy Travis types, who are horrified by a man who wears guyliner and sets off gaydar alarms nationwide would obviously then rally around his polar opposite in Gokey. Now that Gokey is gone they'll go for Kris Allen who is also a devout christian. The difference being that Kris is actually talented which will be enough for the upset.

And the nation will have another Taylor Hicks.

[Chiasm]

Adam won the night but for the reasons I stated earlier I still think Kris will win.

As for the night:

Call it draw on their first songs. I was disappointed that both went back to previously done songs instead of doing a new song like David Cook did last year. Both again showed why they were their signature songs of the season but neither had the magic they did first time.

Adam destroyed Kris on the second song with a stellar performance compared to Kris's boring karaoke rendition.

As for the third song - the song itself was hideous and may be the worst victor song yet. So its really hard to judge either singer when they are being forced to sing such drek. I like how Simon evaded the whole song thing, since he knew it sucked too, by judging the singer on their season's work rather than the song.

[kmeyers]

Adam won the night but for the reasons I stated earlier I still think Kris will win.

As for the night:

Call it draw on their first songs. I was disappointed that both went back to previously done songs instead of doing a new song like David Cook did last year. Both again showed why they were their signature songs of the season but neither had the magic they did first time.

Adam destroyed Kris on the second song with a stellar performance compared to Kris's boring karaoke rendition.

As for the third song - the song itself was hideous and may be the worst victor song yet. So its really hard to judge either singer when they are being forced to sing such drek. I like how Simon evaded the whole song thing, since he knew it sucked too, by judging the singer on their season's work rather than the song.

Yeah that last song was just terrible. Between them going over time because of having an extra judge, and Kara helping to write that joke of a song, I have a feeling we won't be seeing her back next season.

Adam's screeching in the second song was unbearable. I just can't stand him anymore.

[Matt Algren]

I like Adam and Kris for completely different reasons. I just wish Allison had made the top 3 instead of Scream On Gokey.

I think Adam should get the win but I think Kris will pull the upset. If there was really only 1,000,000 votes between Adam and Kris last week then the Gokey fans are going to determine the winner. And its been my theory for a while that the reason Gokey made it so far despite his lack of any really good performances was because he was the anti-Adam in that he's straight, he's a devout christian, and he's got a good sob story. The segment of America, you know the Randy Travis types, who are horrified by a man who wears guyliner and sets off gaydar alarms nationwide would obviously then rally around his polar opposite in Gokey. Now that Gokey is gone they'll go for Kris Allen who is also a devout christian. The difference being that Kris is actually talented which will be enough for the upset.
I understand what you're saying, but there's no evidence that Adam isn't a "devout Christian". And unless they mentioned it on the show last night (I didn't see it yet) all the chatter's been online, meaning that much of the audience didn't know about the church thing.

[Anna]

Adam Lambert has the potential to be as big as, if not bigger than Carrie Underwood.

Kris just doesn't.

[Chiasm]

I understand what you're saying, but there's no evidence that Adam isn't a "devout Christian". And unless they mentioned it on the show last night (I didn't see it yet) all the chatter's been online, meaning that much of the audience didn't know about the church thing.

Its got nothing to do with Adam being christian or not and everything to do with Adam being gay, having pictures on the net of him dressed in drag and kissing men, and wearing makeup. Its the type of people who watch Bill O'Reilly seeing as it was O'Reilly who ran the hitpiece on Adam a month ago decrying the possibility of a gay American idol. Much of the conservative fanbase is going to repulsed by that alone and thus will vote for his polar opposite. Gokey fit that bill the best due to repeated mentions on the show of his gospel singing. Kris though also got mention of his church camp days which means the Gokey conservative contingent will gladly go over to him in order to stop Adam.

[Anna]

Made Adam's second song even more ironic.

[edhopper]

Anybody else thing Adam should sing lead vocals for Queen?
He has Freddy Mercury's range.

[kmeyers]

Anybody else thing Adam should sing lead vocals for Queen?
He has Freddy Mercury's range.

No, no he does not. Freddie had a voice that sounded like a saxophone, not nails across a chalkboard.

Adam sang that song better than Kris, but he's still no Freddie Mercury.

Adam's vocals were more suited to KISS.

[titanfan]

Yeah, the Adam/Kiss duet was fantastic.

I like both of the finalists and hope they both have long careers. I hope the result doesn't turn into something ugly.

I understand what you're saying, but there's no evidence that Adam isn't a "devout Christian". And unless they mentioned it on the show last night (I didn't see it yet) all the chatter's been online, meaning that much of the audience didn't know about the church thing.

The media has been playing up the "gay guy vs. the church thing". Bill O'Reilly has had segments on it, as had EW, and even the Enquirer. Really, from all indicatations, both finalists seem to get along great and agree it should be about talent and singing, which is sad.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Anybody else thing Adam should sing lead vocals for Queen?
He has Freddy Mercury's range.

The closest I have seen that have sung like Mercury is Elton John... (he did an aweeessome Show Must Go On with the band) and Bruce Dickinson .

I've heard Adam and Kris yesterday. Not really caring...:tongue:

[kmeyers]

The closest I have seen that have sung like Mercury is Elton John... (he did an aweeessome Show Must Go On with the band) and Bruce Dickinson .

I've heard Adam and Kris yesterday. Not really caring...:tongue:

While Elton's version of the Show Must Go On is awesome, I don't think he sounds much like Mercury.

There really only was one Freddie Mercury, but if I had to pick someone that could be a good replacement and sound similar, I'd probably go with Chris Cornell.

And as for Kris and Adam not caring who won, it really didn't matter. They'll both be getting record deals anyway.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

While Elton's version of the Show Must Go On is awesome, I don't think he sounds much like Mercury.

There really only was one Freddie Mercury, but if I had to pick someone that could be a good replacement and sound similar, I'd probably go with Chris Cornell.

And as for Kris and Adam not caring who won, it really didn't matter. They'll both be getting record deals anyway.

Cornell can hit some great notes ...but he doesn't really seem to be pushing vocal range much anymore. His last album before this pairing with Timbaland didn't have that hard rocker edge he used to have with Soundgarden.

I've joked with people that with Eddie Van Halen writing new music and looking to do a new album...and no clue idea if Roth would be back...maybe he should call up Cornell. Be an interesting pairing.

[Chiasm]

My prediction was right though we can only speculate if my reasoning was right.

That said the more I think about it the more I think Adam really was the winner tonight simply because he doesn't have to have that horrible horrible No Boundaries song be attached to him on the radio. That song is so bad it could sink the career of Kris before he ever gets a chance to make his own album.

[xnef1025]

My prediction was right though we can only speculate if my reasoning was right.

That said the more I think about it the more I think Adam really was the winner tonight simply because he doesn't have to have that horrible horrible No Boundaries song be attached to him on the radio. That song is so bad it could sink the career of Kris before he ever gets a chance to make his own album.
Heh... after Kris won, right before he had to sing, it looked like him and Adam started cracking up over some shared joke when Ryan started announcing it was time for Kris to sing No Boundries.

[Phil Clark]

Best moment of the night is split for me between 3 moments.

1) Adams duet with KISS.

2) Ryan looking at Bikini Girl and saying "I was going to ask what's new, but I think I know".

3) Kara DioGuardi stripping down to a little black bikini. Seriously, who wouldn't take Kara over that bikini girl stuck up bimbo.

[sweetdreams]

My prediction was right though we can only speculate if my reasoning was right.

That said the more I think about it the more I think Adam really was the winner tonight simply because he doesn't have to have that horrible horrible No Boundaries song be attached to him on the radio. That song is so bad it could sink the career of Kris before he ever gets a chance to make his own album.

I agree with your reasoning.

Did you see Brian May shake his head, impressed, when Adam took over the vocals.

[jessecuster3]

Yay! I am so happy Kris won.



While I was watching last night, it dawned on me that this was probably the best Final 13 of any season.

[Ontir]

OK, I don't watch the show, so I'm not exactly a representative of the fandom, but here goes:

I saw part of 2 performances when there were 3 guys competing. I liked 2, intensely disliked the third. The third was on of the final 2. I still don't like that guy for the same reason I didn't like Sam Harris on "Star Search" all those years ago. If you are a white man, don't try to be Patti LaBelle. We have Patti, and she's wonderful. Find your own damn wonderful and do that. On that score, I like that the other guy won.

After I found out who won, I saw an FB post from a friend, talking about the third guy, and that his success was going to be sweet, because the fact that he was openly gay (again w/Sam Harris) just didn't matter. Now, given the post-mortems I'm reading from friends, I'm wondering if it did matter. As I said, I don't like the guy's voice and I hope the other guy winning had only to do with a bunch of people sharing that opinion. I wouldn't have voted for him, if I voted for Idol, because he was/is gay, it ought not to be an issue. I can't help but wonder, was it?

[Anna]

My prediction was right though we can only speculate if my reasoning was right.

That said the more I think about it the more I think Adam really was the winner tonight simply because he doesn't have to have that horrible horrible No Boundaries song be attached to him on the radio. That song is so bad it could sink the career of Kris before he ever gets a chance to make his own album.
But Adam CAN sing that song, Kris can't.
I agree with your reasoning.

Did you see Brian May shake his head, impressed, when Adam took over the vocals. Which is why Kris sang the first part of each verse, and Adam the second. Ah well, mediocrity reigns supreme!

[jessecuster3]

But Adam CAN sing that song, Kris can't.
Which is why Kris sang the first part of each verse, and Adam the second. Ah well, mediocrity reigns supreme!

How about because it was totally out of Kris' range? He is plenty talented, and having him play with Keith Urban was perfect and exactly the type of music he should make.

[Anna]

But he's more limited than Adam.

[marshal99]

Who cares ? The somewhat dull but pleasant sounding Kris or the emo shrieker Adam.

[Anna]

Who cares ? The somewhat dull but pleasant sounding Kris or the emo shrieker Adam.

For me Adam didn't shriek, he soared; while Kris was more dull than pleasent. .

[marshal99]

For me Adam didn't shriek, he soared; while Kris was more dull than pleasent. .

The show is over , get over the result , so what if Adam did not win ? Big whoop ! Life goes on. :smile:

[xnef1025]

Out of the 100 million votes, 38 million came from Arkansas. Kris's state voted like crazy. So anyone that is worried about homophobic America can rest easy. Kris's win had nothing to do with anyone's sexual preference and everything to do with the winner's state representing.

[Stony]

Just saw it tonight
And, for me for you, while I'm not that happy with the result (come on, seriously, come on!)
Great, great show!

It's been a pretty good season all round I thought, the Finals seemed to be more on a level playing field than previous years.
And I know she's got bagged a lot, but I like Kara (seriously awful final song though)

Guilty pleasure? Ain't no guilt about it, baby

[kmeyers]

I stumbled across this on the Yahoo front page, and found it kind of interesting/odd...Clay Aiken comments about this season of American Idol...without really even seeing it.

"Aiken's Lambert Rant: Claymate Turns To Clayhate"

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/realityrocks/215180/aikens-lambert-rant-claymate-turns-to-clayhate/

He has quite an opinion on things for not having really seen the performances.

[Chiasm]

But he's more limited than Adam.

In what way? Music is much more than singing, its also being able to show creativity in your songs and your ability to forge new music. Kris showed this season he can do this in abundance with some creative ORIGINAL takes on other songs (Kris also crafted the original takes for some of the others - for instance Allison said it was Kris who came up with her song during Michael Jackson week). Adam on the other hand mostly just covered covers of the songs. Mad World, Ring of Fire, and Feelin Good for instance were all copies of covers that other artists had done. Vocally Adam hands down is better than Kris but Adam hasn't done much to show he's going to be able to make his own music whereas Kris has. Adam may succeed in this area too, he just hasn't shown us he can do it yet.

Rock music over the last 40 years is littered with tons of mega stars who had limited voices but had great ability in their musical creativity. Paul McCartney for instance. Countless singers have stronger voices than him and better ranges yet Paul is a legend.

I'm not dissing Adam because I do like him and I did think he should win, I'm merely defending Kris whom I also like.

[Chiasm]

38,000,000 of the 100,000,000 million votes came from Arkansas. Thats why Kris won.

And while I do like Adam and wanted him to win your wrong about his originality because in large part all he did was do covers of covers. Mad World was a straight up cover of Gary Jules cover version of the song. Ring of Fire was a cover of Dilana's cover of the song. Feeling Good was a straight up cover of Muse's cover of the song. And so on. Vocally talented - yes, original not so much. Kris on the other hand did come up with completely original arrangments on a few songs for both himself and for others (he came up with Allison's song and arrangement during Michael Jackson week). Adam can sing rings around Kris vocally but Kris showed he may well have more talent creatively than Adam. The only truly original thing about Adam was his appearance.

Like I said in the American Idol thread, musical success is more than who has the best pipes. Its mostly about who can do the best job crafting a song with a melody that people will want to listen to. There are many singers, Paul McCartney for instance, who don't have the strongest voices yet are rock legends due to the musical crafting ability.

The other thing Adam was the most of is polarizing. You either loved him or hated him and even fans of him like me went to both extremes. I thought Tracks of My Tears, Mad World, Whole Lotta Love, Ring of Fire, and If I Can't Have You were awesome. But on the other hand I thought Black and White, Satisfaction, Play that Funky Music, One, Cryin, and several others were cat in heat, excrutiatingly awful. He had huge highs and huge lows whereas Kris had a few highs (Falling Slowly, Ain't No Sunshine, To Make You Feel My Love) but only one real low (All She Wants to Do is Dance).

[Ontir]

1/3 of the votes came from Arkansas, for the straight guy.

Coincidence, or intent?

[The Black Guardian]

In the end, it really doesn't matter. America knows who really won, and his career will be hot. The other guy will be forgotten soon.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

In the end, it really doesn't matter. America knows who really won, and his career will be hot. The other guy will be forgotten soon.

Yes .... all those who lose American Idol fade away. The winners go on to have great careers . Like... Taylor Hicks , Ruben Studdard , and Fantasia Barrino !

:tongue:

[The Black Guardian]

Yes .... all those who lose American Idol fade away. The winners go on to have great careers . Like... Taylor Hicks , Ruben Studdard , and Fantasia Barrino !

:tongue:
My post was purposely vague, but I wasn't referring to the person with the most votes. America will pick who they like best, regardless of how many calls/texts were placed.

I'm just glad it won't be Bikini Girl.:biggrin:

[SUPERECWFAN1]

My post was purposely vague, but I wasn't referring to the person with the most votes. America will pick who they like best, regardless of how many calls/texts were placed.

I'm just glad it won't be Bikini Girl.:biggrin:

Hey she has a future of doing softcore porn ahead !

[StoneGold]

38,000,000 of the 100,000,000 million votes came from Arkansas. Thats why Kris won.


Wow, that's pretty impressive, given the state has less than 3 million people in it, and that's assuming everyone in the state voted. Someone was phoning in like crazy.

[marshal99]

Hey she has a future of doing softcore porn ahead !

She can do it with Kara , i thought it was quite classless of Kara to did what she did with bikini girl in the finale. By stooping to her level and trying to upstage her is really poor.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

She can do it with Kara , i thought it was quite classless of Kara to did what she did with bikini girl in the finale. By stooping to her level and trying to upstage her is really poor.

It was supposed to be a fun spot I feel. Since her and Bikini Girl had clashed earlier that year. It was supposed to be a feel good moment and show Kara didn't hold anything against Bikini girl.

[kmeyers]

It was supposed to be a fun spot I feel. Since her and Bikini Girl had clashed earlier that year. It was supposed to be a feel good moment and show Kara didn't hold anything against Bikini girl.

I get that that's what it was SUPPOSED to be. Instead, to me it came off as a grandstanding ego trip of Kara needing to prove that she actually could sing better than Bikini Girl. Which is completely not an impressive thing to be able to do.

[the_coldest_sun]

I get that that's what it was SUPPOSED to be. Instead, to me it came off as a grandstanding ego trip of Kara needing to prove that she actually could sing better than Bikini Girl. Which is completely not an impressive thing to be able to do.

Regardless, it was fun watching bikini girl's reaction to Kara's sudden appearance on stage. God, I hate that girl so much.

And while I do like Adam and wanted him to win your wrong about his originality because in large part all he did was do covers of covers. Mad World was a straight up cover of Gary Jules cover version of the song. Ring of Fire was a cover of Dilana's cover of the song. Feeling Good was a straight up cover of Muse's cover of the song. And so on. Vocally talented - yes, original not so much. Kris on the other hand did come up with completely original arrangments on a few songs for both himself and for others (he came up with Allison's song and arrangement during Michael Jackson week). Adam can sing rings around Kris vocally but Kris showed he may well have more talent creatively than Adam. The only truly original thing about Adam was his appearance.

Like I said in the American Idol thread, musical success is more than who has the best pipes. Its mostly about who can do the best job crafting a song with a melody that people will want to listen to. There are many singers, Paul McCartney for instance, who don't have the strongest voices yet are rock legends due to the musical crafting ability.

The other thing Adam was the most of is polarizing. You either loved him or hated him and even fans of him like me went to both extremes. I thought Tracks of My Tears, Mad World, Whole Lotta Love, Ring of Fire, and If I Can't Have You were awesome. But on the other hand I thought Black and White, Satisfaction, Play that Funky Music, One, Cryin, and several others were cat in heat, excrutiatingly awful. He had huge highs and huge lows whereas Kris had a few highs (Falling Slowly, Ain't No Sunshine, To Make You Feel My Love) but only one real low (All She Wants to Do is Dance).

Wow. Thank you so much for that. You got it and detailed it beautifully. A lot of people don't seem to understand this when I try to explain Kris' talent. Most people write him off and diss him by mixing "talented" with "better vocals". Yes Adam can seem well, when hes not all about the screeching (which DID get out off hand for a while), but Kris is a very good singer as well PLUS he's good with arranging and understanding the music itself. I enjoyed both guys immensely but as a musician myself I found myself liking Kris just a bit more.

[Chiasm]

Wow. Thank you so much for that. You got it and detailed it beautifully. A lot of people don't seem to understand this when I try to explain Kris' talent. Most people write him off and diss him by mixing "talented" with "better vocals". Yes Adam can seem well, when hes not all about the screeching (which DID get out off hand for a while), but Kris is a very good singer as well PLUS he's good with arranging and understanding the music itself. I enjoyed both guys immensely but as a musician myself I found myself liking Kris just a bit more.

I don't get the all the anti Kris sentiment some Adam fans are having either. For me all season long I'd been hoping for a final involving either Adam, Kris, or Allison so I was thrilled when it was Adam and Kris as they'd become my two favs early on. Both are rockers, though different styles of rock, and both showed they have true talent in their respective areas. Like I said I would have voted Adam had I cared enough to actually vote but Kris winning is no big deal for me because I truly enjoyed a lot of his stuff too.

A talented rocker won and I'm happy with that whereas it could have been Gokey if not for a misplaced scream which is what I think eventually cost him being in the final.

[edhopper]

To the people on this forum who were so derisive when I suggested that Adam had the voice to sing for Queen.
Suck on this;
http://tv.yahoo.com/contributor/2461071/news/urn:newsml:tv.tvguide.com:20090525:1006316__ER:1

[kmeyers]

To the people on this forum who were so derisive when I suggested that Adam had the voice to sing for Queen.
Suck on this;
http://tv.yahoo.com/contributor/2461071/news/urn:newsml:tv.tvguide.com:20090525:1006316__ER:1

It's purely speculation at this point, and of course people are talking about it since he just sang with them at the finale. But, it actually really wouldn't surprise me much if Queen did ask him to be the new front man. It would bring a whole new younger audience to their shows and music.

That being said, I still don't think Adam has the right voice at all for Queen songs, but then, I didn't think Paul Rodgers did either.

[Chiasm]

To the people on this forum who were so derisive when I suggested that Adam had the voice to sing for Queen.
Suck on this;
http://tv.yahoo.com/contributor/2461071/news/urn:newsml:tv.tvguide.com:20090525:1006316__ER:1

I could see Adam doing it as a side project AFTER he releases his own album but I think he'd turn it down initially just like Chris Daughtry turned down the offer to be the new lead singer for Fuel.

[The Black Guardian]

I can understand turning down Fuel. But Queen's wholly different.

Daughtry to Fuel is much, much more of a lateral move. Fuel has sold about, what, 5 million copies in their career? Daughty has come close to that with his first album. Heck, fronting for Fuel can even be seen as a backward step.

[Chiasm]

I can understand turning down Fuel. But Queen's wholly different.

Daughtry to Fuel is much, much more of a lateral move. Fuel has sold about, what, 5 million copies in their career? Daughty has come close to that with his first album. Heck, fronting for Fuel can even be seen as a backward step.

So could Queen though since Queen hasn't been relevant to the music scene since the mid 1980's. Adam runs the risk of joining what amounts to a tribute band if he joins Queen. Thats why I think he must release his own album first to establish his own musical identity. Then maybe he can do a side project with Queen.

[Matt Algren]

Hmmm... (http://mashable.com/2009/05/27/american-idol-att/)

Fellow iPhone users may occasionally grumble about AT&T’s network coverage, but this week the company stands accused of a much more serious issue: swaying the American Idol result towards an undeserved win for Kris Allen.

AT&T was a leading corporate sponsor of American Idol and the only network on which votes could be cast via text messaging. The company provided a special free texts service to attendees of two Kris Allen parties in Arkansas during the Idol finale last week, but didn’t make any similar offers to Adam Lambert fans, according to reports. The specific feature demoed to partygoers was “power texting” - the ability to send 10 or more texts at once.

Whether valid or not, the accusation is likely to draw attention given the huge base of support for both singers: Lambert in particular commands a massive amount of web buzz.

The story broke in the The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette last week, but gained steam this week when picked up by the New York Times. The Times writes:

Representatives of AT&T helped fans of Mr. Allen at the two Arkansas events by providing instructions on how to send 10 or more text messages at the press of a single button, known as power texts. Power texts have an exponentially greater effect on voting than do single text messages or calls to the show’s toll-free phone lines. The efforts appear to run afoul of “American Idol” voting rules in two ways. The show broadcasts an on-screen statement at the end of each episode warning that blocks of votes cast using “technical enhancements” that unfairly influence the outcome of voting can be thrown out.

And the show regularly states that text voting is open only to AT&T subscribers and is subject to normal rates.

Clearly AT&T didn’t intentionally support Kris Allen, and the ability for two local parties to affect a national vote seems slim but plausible. If the winning margin was narrow enough, or if AT&T is found to have encouraged rule breaking as the Times reports, Lambert fans may have a case.

(I'd keep schtum if winning means he has to record that horrible song after all.)

[Anna]

Kris was the special guest on Huckabee this weekend. :rolleyes:

[Anna]

David Arculetta's stage daddy was just picked up in a massage parlor raid: http://www.celebitchy.com/56330/david_archuletas_dad_busted_in_massage_parlor_pros titution_raid/

[aussieroo1]

Kris and Adam both have talents, just like Archuleta and Cook last season. All these four artists will have a good musical career ahead.

[Anna]

Remember that little girl who cried her way through one of Sanjaya's performances? Ashley Ferl is 16 now, and auditioned for the show in Los Angeles this week. She didn't make it. http://www.accesshollywood.com/crying-girl-ashley-ferl-auditions-for-american-idol_article_20037

[Anna]

Fox has confirmed Paula's departure: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090805/ap_en_tv/us_tv_american_idol_abdul

[Anna]

Paula may be reconsidering, negotiations for her to appear on other shows have halted: http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/08/paula-abduls-ugly-betty-talks-fall-apart.html

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Paula may be reconsidering, negotiations for her to appear on other shows have halted: http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/08/paula-abduls-ugly-betty-talks-fall-apart.html

Perhaps AI and Fox learned she was considering being a judge on Dancing with the Stars. So they knew she could with this media , actually lure a crowd to that show on ABC.

[Anna]

I'd rather have her back than see Jessica Simpson show up, as has been rumored.

[Anna]

Meet Idol's new judge: http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/09/ellen-im-the-new-judge-on-american-idol/

[The Black Guardian]

So... they've replaced Paula with a comic relief know-nothing? Yikes.

This isn't a jab at Ellen. I love her, but I'd sooner trust her to grade papers for a college-level physics course.

[titanfan]

So... they've replaced Paula with a comic relief know-nothing? Yikes.

This isn't a jab at Ellen. I love her, but I'd sooner trust her to grade papers for a college-level physics course.

Since when does being a judge on American Idol actually require knowledge?

[Anna]

I don't get it either. :confused:

[the_coldest_sun]

I like Ellen and all, but I don't get it.

Edit: However, I do look forward to her zany comments. Still, I don't get it.

[marshal99]

Would certainly be better than Paula's incoherent babbling.

[Red Lotus]

So... they've replaced Paula with a comic relief know-nothing? Yikes.

This isn't a jab at Ellen. I love her, but I'd sooner trust her to grade papers for a college-level physics course.

One thing this will do is give their ratings a bit of a bump. A lot people will watch to see how she does.

[Phil Clark]

I like that she says she is going to be the average persons judge, viewing it from the point of view of the people who will be buying the music. That might be interesting if she can do it. I hear a lot of "I don't know what is technically right, but I know what I like..." kind of comments.

[kmeyers]

Howard Stern made a great point about when Ellen guest judged on Dancing with the Stars. She doesn't know anything about it, or really how to judge it, or what to say, so she just does wisecracks about herself.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Horrible decision. What does Ellen know anything about music. She'll likely be the type who goes... "Its great , its not as great.....its ok ..." and make you shake your head. You can tell the AI producers were scared shitless that ratings would stumble after Paula so they went to Ellen.

I'd laugh if this is the moment AI jumps the shark and the ratings tumble. Paula will be avenged ha ha. :tongue:

[Jared]

I guess they figured they needed someone to be nice, which Ellen will surely be. But couldn't they get someone who had *something* to do with music? Dancing on her show everyday doesn't count. I doubt Jewel would turn them down.


That said, singing is surely easier to judge than ballroom dancing.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I guess they figured they needed someone to be nice, which Ellen will surely be. But couldn't they get someone who had *something* to do with music? Dancing on her show everyday doesn't count. I doubt Jewel would turn them down.


That said, singing is surely easier to judge than ballroom dancing.

Jewel would have likely been a good choice....actually. She is nice and comes across as a sweet person on TV. She was in the business .

[titanfan]

Howard Stern made a great point about when Ellen guest judged on Dancing with the Stars. She doesn't know anything about it, or really how to judge it, or what to say, so she just does wisecracks about herself.

Randy and Kara know music, but most of the time their advice is redundant and sucks. Most of the viewers can tell when the singer is "pitchy". I really think that you are all overstating the value of musical knowledge required to be a judge on this show. Heck, Simon knows very little about music (although he's considered an industry expert) and he can critique just fine. He might not be able tell us that the singer switched keys on the song, but he's willing to call out a performance that sucked (most of the time).

[Matt Algren]

Adam Lambert's first video is up. See it on youtube before it gets pulled (again).

http://www.youtube.com/v/JzYjEVkKTBs

[Anna]

Adam Lambert's first video is up. See it on youtube before it gets pulled (again).

http://www.youtube.com/v/JzYjEVkKTBs


It's beautiful! thank you! :smile:

[Chiasm]

Adam Lambert's first video is up. See it on youtube before it gets pulled (again).

http://www.youtube.com/v/JzYjEVkKTBs

I really liked both Kris and Adam on AI last year but words can't describe how disappointed I am in both of their first songs. Kris does a straight up remake and Adam does a song that is barely a step above No Boundaries (thats not a good thing). Allison's first song wins by a mile even though its only average.

[Phil Clark]

To be fair though, Adams is a soundtrack song, and those are often written by someone else and then performed by someone who doesn't always fit the style of the song. I am more interested in his first full solo album. Then I will see what he is like. His manager probably said that this song for 2012 would be good exposure and he should do it.

[Matt Algren]

I also wonder if this could've been seen as a bridge to get people who aren't big fans of his chosen genre.

[Anna]

It's official, Simon's OUT after this season: http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/11/simon-cowell-im-leaving-american-idol/

[The Black Guardian]

IOW... this is the last season... :)

[Anna]

They just cut a guy for letting it slip that he was in the top 24: http://tvwatch.people.com/2010/01/25/report-idol-contestant-cut-after-dad-talks-to-paper/

[SUPERECWFAN1]

It's official, Simon's OUT after this season: http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/11/simon-cowell-im-leaving-american-idol/

That sound you heard was Fox Execs having heart attacks. This is their big hit. Simon leaving as he's the main star is a huge blow. Your gonna see Fox likely agree to anything Cowell wants as long as he does AI. I see him getting X-Factor too and big pay days for them both.

They just cut a guy for letting it slip that he was in the top 24: http://tvwatch.people.com/2010/01/25/report-idol-contestant-cut-after-dad-talks-to-paper/

Wow thats interesting. One of the female contestants actually went to Hollywood but couldn't show up due to traffic tickets and all she had. They voted her back in.

[bert]

That sound you heard was Fox Execs having heart attacks. This is their big hit. Simon leaving as he's the main star is a huge blow. Your gonna see Fox likely agree to anything Cowell wants as long as he does AI. I see him getting X-Factor too and big pay days for them both.


You're looking at a link from two weeks ago.

Fox already signed Simon to bring X-factor to thier Network starting in 2011.

I can completely see them including a clause that if X-factor doesn't bring in the ratings, they will cancel it and Simon goes back to Idol.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

You're looking at a link from two weeks ago.

Fox already signed Simon to bring X-factor to thier Network starting in 2011.

I can completely see them including a clause that if X-factor doesn't bring in the ratings, they will cancel it and Simon goes back to Idol.

Oh I know its from 2 weeks ago. I just think they will try and talk and push Simon to record and stay on AI to give X-Factor a shot. That way they won't risk hurting AI.

[Anna]

That sound you heard was Fox Execs having heart attacks. This is their big hit. Simon leaving as he's the main star is a huge blow. Your gonna see Fox likely agree to anything Cowell wants as long as he does AI. I see him getting X-Factor too and big pay days for them both.



Wow thats interesting. One of the female contestants actually went to Hollywood but couldn't show up due to traffic tickets and all she had. They voted her back in.

Yes, Angela Martin. Her misfortunes continue:
http://tvwatch.people.com/2010/01/26/inside-story-idol-contestants-mother-vanishes/

[titanfan]

Katy Perry for permanent judge!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Katy Perry for permanent judge!

God she was smoking hot. I'd try out just to get near her. I may not know anything she sings and all....but I'd just wanna get close to her.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

- According to Howard Stern , Fox has approached him to take Simon Cowells place next season on American Idol. They want a tough judge type and Stern has said he won't do AI unless he gets the big money to do it.

- Thus far Ellen has basically showed me she really knows jack and shit thus far. Voting a guy off because he looked scary on stage , even though he could sing. Lame jokes about how he prowled the stage and all....poor Skiibooski. You were there to be made jokes about.

[Romero]

Skiboski wasn't that good a singer and I don't think he had all the support of the other judges either. Ellen was ok for the first night.

Funny that they gave that Big Mike guy all that screentime tonight if he was cut.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Skiboski wasn't that good a singer and I don't think he had all the support of the other judges either. Ellen was ok for the first night.

Funny that they gave that Big Mike guy all that screentime tonight if he was cut.

I always applaud anyone who can sing their name out....:tongue:

[Caanan]

Whether it was the editing, and the required hyperbole in every voiceover, or not, but that version of Straight up is not that guy's interpretation.

It's on the CD Guilty by Association, and was recorded by the band, Luna. When he sang it, I was like, 'I know this!' Looked it up in my iTunes library, and sure enough, there it was.

Like I said though, the guy may have credited the version to them in 'real life'. What they show us on screen is another thing entirely.

That last 'rock mom' was awesome.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I pretty much thought Ellen was a waste of time on the show. She didn't really add anything at all beyond jokes. The best joke she did was having people step forward , back , to the left and back again....and then tell em they passed on. Which made Cowell laugh because it was mean.

Thats about it.

[kmeyers]

Whether it was the editing, and the required hyperbole in every voiceover, or not, but that version of Straight up is not that guy's interpretation.

It's on the CD Guilty by Association, and was recorded by the band, Luna. When he sang it, I was like, 'I know this!' Looked it up in my iTunes library, and sure enough, there it was.

Like I said though, the guy may have credited the version to them in 'real life'. What they show us on screen is another thing entirely.

That last 'rock mom' was awesome.

Most, if not all, of the people on Idol who do "original" interpretations of songs are copying someone else's version.

[Romero]

After 9 seasons, all Randy Jackson has contributed is "you did your thing, dawg" and "you worked it out dawg."

[marshal99]

I pretty much thought Ellen was a waste of time on the show. She didn't really add anything at all beyond jokes. The best joke she did was having people step forward , back , to the left and back again....and then tell em they passed on. Which made Cowell laugh because it was mean.

Thats about it.

She's still better than Paula who is an emotional wreck , behaving like a drunk monkey at times with her antics , rambling on with nobody having any clue what she's going on about.

Surprised that they cut Charity Vance. From the bits they showed of her , she's actually has a good voice and isn't all over the place.
The guys must have a slim pickings this season , they select a guy Lee whatshisname that they never spotlight at all and that kid who keeps forgetting his lines.

[Phil Clark]

It's just a damn shame that Big Mike was disqualified because someone in his family violated the confidentiality agreement and said on the news that he was in the top 24 about two weeks ago. The guy was good. At least since he is just 26 he can try again next year. I hope he does.

[Anna]

She's still better than Paula who is an emotional wreck , behaving like a drunk monkey at times with her antics , rambling on with nobody having any clue what she's going on about.

Surprised that they cut Charity Vance. From the bits they showed of her , she's actually has a good voice and isn't all over the place.
The guys must have a slim pickings this season , they select a guy Lee whatshisname that they never spotlight at all and that kid who keeps forgetting his lines.

This is why I don't like the 12 guys/12 girls format.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Mary should have never been kicked off. Shame too.... so she was arrogant and had that...I FUCKIN BELONG HERE deal. I hate that she was let go.

[Chiasm]

Anyone else get the impression that they are really pushing the females hard this year? Perhaps after two straight male winners and two straight seasons where both finalists are male they want to shake things up.

That said of what I've seen its been two females who have impressed me most: Didi Benami and some girl whose name I'm blanking right now but has Bosox or something like that in her last name.

[titanfan]

Yes, it seems to me that they clearly would prefer a white female winner this year.

It will be kind of like last year when they wanted a guy--any male who is a threat to win will probably be weeded out.

[bert]

Mary should have never been kicked off. Shame too.... so she was arrogant and had that...I FUCKIN BELONG HERE deal. I hate that she was let go.

Keep in mind, some of that is the editing.

but yeah, she totally deserved to be in the top 24 over some of the pretty, blonde, white girls that made the cut and didn't deserve it (based on what we were shown).

same is true of the girl who was trying for the 3rd time (after having to miss last year due to 6 days in Jail). . .she absolutely deserved to be in.

and they should be ashamed of themselves over some of the very weak male singers who were let thru (at least 1/2 of the 12 didn't deserve it based on my opinion of what they showed -- but again, it could be editing). That last guy -- the one with his Mother cheering him on? should have made top 24

[Anna]

Keep in mind, some of that is the editing.

but yeah, she totally deserved to be in the top 24 over some of the pretty, blonde, white girls that made the cut and didn't deserve it (based on what we were shown).

same is true of the girl who was trying for the 3rd time (after having to miss last year due to 6 days in Jail). . .she absolutely deserved to be in.

and they should be ashamed of themselves over some of the very weak male singers who were let thru (at least 1/2 of the 12 didn't deserve it based on my opinion of what they showed -- but again, it could be editing). That last guy -- the one with his Mother cheering him on? should have made top 24

I wanted Angela in; I don't care for the 70's throwback guy, or the kid raised by his aunt.

[marshal99]

I think at least half the guys are not spotlighted at all in hollywood week , the 70s throwback guy tyler , lee whatshisname , the asian guy , that mexican kid , the kid who keeps missing his lines & alex lambert who is only shown during that group night disaster with Mary powers , good voice but zero presence but i guess his other performances that was not shown was good enough to send him through.

Of the women , i think the only one that the audience know nothing about is Paige Miles ? Who ? And Michelle Delamor ? She was shown on the same group with Charity Vance & Ashley Rodriguez on hollywood week and while we saw Charity & Ashley singing individually , Michelle's singing portion was cut off. I think Haeley Vaughn will be this season's jasmine murray - inconsistent and pitchy.

[Phil Clark]

Interesting. It seems that the news story I read on the Excite page was incorrect, and "Big" Mike is still in the top 24. Not that I am disappointed. I really like the guy, and he does have a good voice.

[bert]

Interesting. It seems that the news story I read on the Excite page was incorrect, and "Big" Mike is still in the top 24. Not that I am disappointed. I really like the guy, and he does have a good voice.

Yep, the producers allowed him to stay despite his Dad breaking the rules.

and it's not gonna end well w/ the Idol Producers, since they let him stay, but kicked out another finalist (Golightly), and replaced him last minute (with Tim Urban), even tho the contract issue that Idol producers claim, has been resolved prior to the top 24 performing.

Idol is gonna have to make this right -- I'm guessing we're gonna see a top 13 guys performing.

http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/18/controversy-with-idols-top-24/?hpt=T2

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Keep in mind, some of that is the editing.

but yeah, she totally deserved to be in the top 24 over some of the pretty, blonde, white girls that made the cut and didn't deserve it (based on what we were shown).

same is true of the girl who was trying for the 3rd time (after having to miss last year due to 6 days in Jail). . .she absolutely deserved to be in.

and they should be ashamed of themselves over some of the very weak male singers who were let thru (at least 1/2 of the 12 didn't deserve it based on my opinion of what they showed -- but again, it could be editing). That last guy -- the one with his Mother cheering him on? should have made top 24

Interesting. It seems that the news story I read on the Excite page was incorrect, and "Big" Mike is still in the top 24. Not that I am disappointed. I really like the guy, and he does have a good voice.

I was gonna say something about this and all...that maybe the dude with his Momma would get to come back since it seemed like big Mike was kicked off. But I suppose Idol was in a spot after spotlighting Big Mike for 2 weeks and suddenly kicking him off. So they had to have Big Mike come back.

[Siddon]

Yes, it seems to me that they clearly would prefer a white female winner this year.

It will be kind of like last year when they wanted a guy--any male who is a threat to win will probably be weeded out.

It seems almost weird that they don't push white girls the two biggest sellers of all time where Kelly and Carrie and they burried Kellie Pickler and she outsould most of the winners.

The women and men are really a tale of two groups with one group seemingly over flowing with talent while the other group is solid with niche type singers

The Guys

front runners


Andrew Garcia is clearly the major front runner this year, he's a mix of Kris Allen style with Eliot Yamin's vocals, and unlike the previous two he actually has a backing and footage.

John Park was the front runner going into Hollywood week, he wasn't really wasn't shown at all but he has a big Ruben style voice.

dark horse
Casey James I think is the dark horse of the comp, he's got a southern blues style and I was impressed with his work, he's also being sold as a heart throbe.

producers pets
Michael Lynche - big Mike was given tons of screen time but his voice is weak and he doesn't have the originalty of all the other guitar players this year.

Aaron Kelly - huge voice, lots of screen time, and tween bait he might not make the tour but I would think he's a lock to make the top six.


Meanwhile this is the most stacked Girls group ever

Front Runners

blonde Guitar triplets

Crystal Bowersox - the rasp made her stand out but will she falter like Amanda from a few seasons ago.

Lily Scott - white hair and creative she stands out and it will be fun to see what she does

Didi Benami - the "package" artist of the group I wonder how her crying personality will work

big voices

Janell Wheeler - has a Kris Allen groundswell coming in, we could spend all season watching her and Didi fight it out till the final two.

Sioban Magnus - a combo of Tatianna and Adam Lambert she stands out and in a season with big voices her's in the biggest.

The dark horses

Katie Stevens - the 17 year old has gotten a lot of face time and from what we've heard she's pretty good. Might very well be this seasons Allison Irahetta.

Ashley Rodriguez - another one of this seasons "package artists" she reminds me of Kathetine McPhee could be a dark horse. And unlike Katelyn Eppherly she seems like she can sing.

Haley Vaughn - unique and rough around the edges but she two of the three strongest voting blocks behind her, african americans and country fans. With Michelle and Paige being major underdogs and likely week one or two boots. Haley may have a big enough base for that alone to push her to the final 5.

The Cannon Fodder

The rest of the guys are going to have trouble I don't know if people will be able to tell the difference between Jermaine and Todrick or Tim and Alex. Which is a shame as the other Jermaine was one of the bigger stand outs during audition week.

Joe Munoz has a voice but might just be the most unattracive male on the show since Scott Savol.

Lee Dewyze seems like a Gokey clone who might make the top 12 but will get knocked out the first week

Tyler Grady looks like the weekest voiced male in the comp and I don't know how his 70's guy schtick is going to work out for him.

the good news for the boys is that one of them has to make the cut

The ladies have a different problem these four girls don't seem to have much of a chance

Paige Miles would be a safe pick to go home first, I don't think they showed a single clip of her.

Lacey Brown was given a bit of a package but in a strong season I don't know if making it to week three isn't her victory

Michelle Delamor is extremely attractive and if Haley crashes and burns I can see her as having the best chance at making a run

Katelyn Epperly is in trouble she's been given the nod as the worst female singer, she has a chance at getting vote for the worst to get behind her if it's still around.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

My run down ...

Paige Mills : suck

Janell Wheeler : suck

Lilly Scott : In the middle on it

Katelyn E. : Good

Haeley V : Suck

Lacey Brown : In the middle on it

Michelle D: Good

Didi Benami : Good

Siobhan Magnus : Good

Crystal Bowersox: In the middle on it

Katie Stevens : Suck


Thats how I felt tonight watching it. Didi perhaps stole the show.

[Phil Clark]

I wasn't overly impressed with any of the girls. None of them had that star power moment where you thought "she is a pro". The closest were Crystal Bowersox and Michelle Delamor. But none of them had a performance I will remember after tonight, and most I already don't remember.

They have a long way to go to beat the guys. I expect tonight we will hear one judge say "Now this competition has started". And I can't wait to see what Andrew Garcia does.

[Romero]

For such a supposedly strong girls group, yeah, they weren't really all that.

I think Siobhan ended up as my favorite of the night. I like the Chris Isaak song and it's one I can't really remember seeing on the show before. Those falsetto high notes could have been a real disaster, but she was ok.

I hadn't seen what was so special about Haley Vaughn so far, but last night I kinda got a glimpse. I saw what she was trying to do with that Beatles song, but her ambition far outstripped her ability.

[marshal99]

Haley Vaughn is this season's jasmine murray , the sweet 16 year old who has a good voice but is pitchy all over.

None of the girls stood out. Surprised to see the judges praising Paige Miles (who ?) so much as i thought she was mediocre at best. Miles and Lacey Brown or Katelyn should go.

[Dark Galaxy]

Yeesh. That was one of the most mediocre starts ever. Hopefully the guys step it up a notch.

[Anna]

Shelby Dressler was better than most of these. :frown:

[SUPERECWFAN1]

The 1st guy killed it out there. But Idol isn't one who like when someone completely changes up a song from an Idol alum. And not one like a Kelly Clarkson who won the 1st show.

I have to admit it was pretty creative by the guy. He completely redid "Since You Been Gone".


Sorry Aaron Kelly .... playing with the mic and all doesn't help. Simon and all loved him . He is like David Archeluta I guess...

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Caught Tim Urban ....I can agree with Simon , we should have sent you home again. Ugh....

[SUPERECWFAN1]

In the end I think Casey Jones won tonight. He didn't try and change the world out there. He just played a very solid acoustic Bryan Adams song. I did laugh at all the Kara jokes loving him.

"Well i'm sure the cougar (Kara) liked it..." Simon to Casey...:tongue:

[Romero]

Ellen's mullet comment was hilarious. My wife and I were mocking his hair the whole time he played.

I'm not sure if the guys or girls won the week. A lot of sadness on both sides.

[Anna]

Ellen's mullet comment was hilarious. My wife and I were mocking his hair the whole time he played.

I'm not sure if the guys or girls won the week. A lot of sadness on both sides.

For me the guys had more bright spots.

[Jessygirl88]

In the end I think Casey Jones won tonight. He didn't try and change the world out there. He just played a very solid acoustic Bryan Adams song. I did laugh at all the Kara jokes loving him.

"Well i'm sure the cougar (Kara) liked it..." Simon to Casey...:tongue:

I like Casey too. I have my bets on that singahhhhh!

[marshal99]

Casey James will go far , he's very likeable , the judges loved him , he's handsome and he has a great voice. He'll get a sizeable votes from teenage girls i imagine.

[Phil Clark]

I still haven't felt that "Star" power from any of the contestants. Maybe it was first week nerves. Maybe it is something else, but I really don't have a stand out favorite yet. Closest is Andrew.

[Romero]

I'm surprised the two more conventionally hot chicks got booted. Neither sang all that well though.

I had no idea who Joe Munoz was before this week, but he was light years ahead of Tim Urban. That's too bad.

I won't miss Tyler and his eyebrows and greasy 70s ripoff persona.

[bert]

I'm surprised the two more conventionally hot chicks got booted. Neither sang all that well though.

I had no idea who Joe Munoz was before this week, but he was light years ahead of Tim Urban. That's too bad.

I won't miss Tyler and his eyebrows and greasy 70s ripoff persona.

Both of the wrong guys went home, and one of the wrong girls.

Todrick, scared little mullet mouse Alex, or Tim should have gone home instead of Joe, who was one of the best singers in the Male group.

Hell, between Tim and Todrick, I would have kept Tim anyways, simply for the horrid version of "Since You've Been Gone" that Todrick did.

As far as Tyler? Based on that completely unsalvageable perfomance John Park gave on Wed, he should have gone home. I'm glad that he didnt', but as noted above, there were at least 3 guys who were worse than Tyler and he should not have been booted in the first round.

In terms of the ladies: I'm very happy Lacey Brown was given a 2nd chance. But disagree w/ the 2nd girl who was cut. . .it *should* have been Haley Vaugh, who screamed her way thru the Beatles song.

sheesh. .that group sing/lip-synch was painful!

and maybe it was just that I don't care for him, but I thought Kris was flat last night, and I wasn't too impressed w/ Let it Be.

Allison tho? KNOCKED it outta the park, and with the possible exception of Crystal, showed how much better she is than anyone on the current (supposedly "strongest" season) for the girls.

[Romero]

I missed the group sing. It can be terrible when there is only 6 or 7 of them. All 24 just sounds like it would be a train wreck.

Kris Allen wasn't very good. No wonder a year later, you'd think Adam Lambert was the winner with all the appearances and attention HE gets.

[marshal99]

Can't believe that Janell wheeler got booted , she was spotlighted quite a bit. There were less prominent singers in that female group. Like everyone else , she sang the wrong song but she does have a decent voice.

As far as Joe Munoz , no surprise there , he looked like a lovechild of Ben Stiller , doesn't have the looks and was mumbling his way through the first verse.

[Phil Clark]

Kris Allen wasn't very good. No wonder a year later, you'd think Adam Lambert was the winner with all the appearances and attention HE gets.

Kris shouldn't have done "Let it Be". Some songs are just (or should be) untouchable.

Let it Be and Imagine are two that come to mind right away, along with Bohemian Rhapsody and nearly any song by Ann Wilson (unless you have a voice as big as hers).

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Tim must have a golden ass to be saved because he was horrible. I am glad they didn't vote off Casey and Didi. I like watching those 2 and I hope they go far in this AI.

Tyler (70's Guy) really just couldn't make the image work at all. Maybe its the fact he sucked singing "American Woman". Either way , the fact he came out to warm up in a bathrobe made me laugh. Thats funny , ecentric .

I'll miss Janelle who did sing a decent version of "What About Love".

I have to agree , whose idea was it for Kris Allen to sing a horrible version of "Let it Be" ? Ya know Idol , with the money and connections you have.... why not ...ya know get Paul McCartney and have him and Allen sing "Let It Be" in a duet at least. That way you can say ...hey theres Sir Paul. And wow...he's letting this young man play with him.

I have no fucking clue what that one girl sang who graduated from Idol. Dear lord ...when the best thing that girl had going was her hair (which I digged) then your fuckin in trouble.

Simon , ya should go get Chris Daughtry next time.

[Chiasm]

None of the four who went home last night deserved it as there were worse singers in both groups. That said none of those who got booted would have been likely to make the top 12 anyway so its not a big deal.

I really only liked two performances this week, Siobhan Magnus and Crystal Bowersox. Casey and Lee were tolerable amongst the boys but that has more to do with how horrible the rest of the guys were.

I thought Alison was awesome last night. I don't like the studio version of that song but she brought something extra to it live. And I thought Kris was great.

Funniest part of the night was that they had to bleep Alex Lambert after he apparently threw an f bomb followed by an s bomb upon learning he wasn't going home. Way to endear yourself to America Alex!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Casey smoked out there with that guitar. I mean him mixing in Hendrix like riffs and getting down sealed it. He should make it to next week. Even if the Couger (aka Kara) didn't approve.

[Romero]

He was a fine guitar player, although his singing seemed to suffer some. The song sucked anyway. However, there are a lot of Casey's out there in barroom land.

Tim Urban sort of redeemed himself this week, as did mullet boy. Mike Lynche was better than he has been and a good way to start the show.

Todrick and the black Ed Grimley were not real good, although I still kind of appreciate some of Todrick's rearranging.

This is the first time I remember seeing or hearing Aaron Kelly at all!

Spongebob Squareglasses had some real trouble with the notes this time.

Bye bye John Park. It's back to sleepytime land.

That last guy mostly sounded like Hinder singing Hinder.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

He was a fine guitar player, although his singing seemed to suffer some. The song sucked anyway. However, there are a lot of Casey's out there in barroom land.


I tend to take what Simon says with a grain of salt. He's not a hard rock , guitar type. So he really doesn't understand that music. In all he's used to pop type stars. Not hard rocking guys who go out and let it rip on the guitar.

I would love if Casey's mysterious warm up backstage is revealed to be him drinking Jack Daniels before he walks on stage. He seemed to put something in that box.

[Anna]

They killed Didi dead.

[Chiasm]

A few of the girls completely slayed the boys this week. The best I can about any of the guys is that two of them, Lee and Casey, weren't nearly as bad as the rest. But four of the girls really did well tonight. I can't say that I like the songs that Crystal, Lily, or Siobhan sang but I can say that they sang the hell out of them. Katelyn did sing a song I like and I love how she slowed it down even if the last note didn't really fit. The rest of the girls were forgettable to horrible. I keep hoping Didi will do something better as I love her voice but she's not picking good songs.

[Romero]

Wow, a Creed cover? Really? You can't polish a turd.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

And John Park gets sent packing. It seems Todrick knew God would keep him around another week.

1 more guy goes home tonight....

[SUPERECWFAN1]

And Jermaine leaves as the 2nd guy voted off.....

[SUPERECWFAN1]

And people let this be a lesson ...unless your Scott Stapp ...or sing like him , don't do Creed covers.


In all I'm happy Didi made it. Whew.....so my favorites Casey and Didi made it.

[bert]

And John Park gets sent packing. It seems Todrick knew God would keep him around another week.

1 more guy goes home tonight....

it was Jermaine who said G-D would keep him around.

Guess G_D had other things on his mind to keep him occupied.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

it was Jermaine who said G-D would keep him around.

Guess G_D had other things on his mind to keep him occupied.

Whoops...my mistake...


I called God right now...

"God , dude ya sent Jermaine home tonight , whats the deal ?"

"Yo , Richard my man...whats shakin. Yeah I did....but see I got busy and my secrtary Mary was supposed to make that happen. But the paperwork got lost. I sent Jermaine a fruit basket for the screw up."

[Romero]

God did us a favor. I had to laugh though when they panned the camera over to the two guys, being forced to still sit there after getting shitcanned.

[Jeff-E]

I'll admit I actually liked the Black Eyed Pea's version of I've got a feeling. That said, my god the Idol's version sucked horribly. I can't believe they actually went forward with that!

[edhopper]

Anybody see anything to there being three black people and an Asian sent home. There are no black women left. Just the nature of the show, or something more to it?

[titanfan]

Anybody see anything to there being three black people and an Asian sent home. There are no black women left. Just the nature of the show, or something more to it?

No, that's how the demographics of the show work out. Last week 4 cacusasian people got kicked off.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Anybody see anything to there being three black people and an Asian sent home. There are no black women left. Just the nature of the show, or something more to it?


Yes there was something to it.... they sucked. :tongue:

[bert]

Anybody see anything to there being three black people and an Asian sent home. There are no black women left. Just the nature of the show, or something more to it?

um yeah. . there is, and I'm sure she'll be around for a while (she covered Kelly Clarkson this week).

and there are several Black guys left (Todrick & Big Mike) and a few Latinos left too. . .

nothing more to it than just they were pretty bad this week (hell , they were bad last week too).

[edhopper]

Just a thought I had watching the results. A question rather than a statement.

[Anna]

Just a thought I had watching the results. A question rather than a statement.

The only Asian I recall doing well was Jasmine in season 3.

[Chiasm]

Anybody see anything to there being three black people and an Asian sent home. There are no black women left. Just the nature of the show, or something more to it?

I don't think you can make a case for the voting public to be racist seeing as a black person won seasons II, III, and VI. That means 3 out of 8 seasons have had a black win and thats a much higher % than blacks represent in the country. Season VII had a black female finish 3rd and David Archuleta who finished 2nd appears to be of mixed race based on his skin tone. Alison Iraheta finished 4th last season and she's hispanic.

I think this season its all about talent. Hailey sucked, there is no two ways about it. Jon had a decent voice but he chose two horrendous songs. Onesie guy was very annoying and did weird things to his songs. Michelle was very boring and she sang a Creed song which alone is enough to get you booted. The ones that got booted the week before were either bad or unmemorable.

Basically with the possible exception of Mike Lynche the minority singers this season just aren't very good.

[titanfan]

Basically with the possible exception of Mike Lynche the minority singers this season just aren't very good.

Which (to me) really gives credence to the point that they want a white female winner. I do believe the show is (mostly) on the straight up, but they definitely skew the cast and editing towards the type of singer they want to win.

[Chiasm]

Which (to me) really gives credence to the point that they want a white female winner. I do believe the show is (mostly) on the straight up, but they definitely skew the cast and editing towards the type of singer they want to win.

Why? They've had two female white singers in eight seasons and they are the two most successful Idol alumni there are. Well maybe that actually answers the question but its certainly not for lack of prior winners. You've got the two white females (Kelly and Carrie), one black male (Ruben), three white males (Taylor, David, Kris), and two black females (Fantasia and Jordin).

I didn't watch the audition or Hollywood rounds but were there any minority candidates shown who were a lot better than those that made it through? Were there any more deserving than the white females we got? Of the white females who did make it I don't think anyone can say Crystal, Lily, or Siobhan don't deserve to be there as all three have had amazing performances so far. Didi has a great voice but has just picked bad songs. Lacey sucks IMO but someone must like her since she's somehow survived two votes.

And at the end of the day it doesn't really matter how they skew the editing since its all about the singing. Siobhan for instance comes off pretty badly in her editing as she appears very stupid and very boring but her singing is great.

[titanfan]

Why? They've had two female white singers in eight seasons and they are the two most successful Idol alumni there are. Well maybe that actually answers the question but its certainly not for lack of prior winners. You've got the two white females (Kelly and Carrie), one black male (Ruben), three white males (Taylor, David, Kris), and two black females (Fantasia and Jordin).

They switch around the winners, demographic wise. They definitely are going for white female this season. Mainly because of sales, partly because one hasn't won in a few seasons.

I didn't watch the audition or Hollywood rounds but were there any minority candidates shown who were a lot better than those that made it through? Were there any more deserving than the white females we got?

Angela Martin (Youtube)

[bert]

um yeah. . there is, and I'm sure she'll be around for a while (she covered Kelly Clarkson this week).


Um. . . wow.

yeah. . she's gone on Thurs, unless "vote for the worst" rallies behind her.

dang, that version of "Smile" was brutal.

So it won't have anything to do w/ racism, she was simply the worst by a mile.

and if we are going by singing, then the Blonde who did "I feel the Earth Move" is the other Girl going.

lots of folks hating on Lacey Brown, but she was amazing tonight. . she should totally be doing that style of music. She sounds JUST like Hope Sandoval from Mazzy Star.

[Chiasm]

No one blew me away tonight but in a few cases thats because I didn't like the song to begin with.

That said I thought Crystal and Siobhan sang well. I thought Lilly and Catelyn did bad relative to past weeks performances. I thought Lacey sucked as usual, I'm blown away that she somehow survived two of the worst Idol performances ever. Paige sucked. Katie just rubs me the wrong way for some reason. And I can't decide if I liked or hated Didi's version of the song - I love the original but this one was both cool and sucky at the same time.

[marshal99]

I think the final 6 should picked itself - Katelyn & Page Miles were awful and should be send packing.
Unique bunch of 6 , no black diva powerhouses this time round (unless Miles made it through) and all of them have different style of singing and voices. Sioban has that whole scream queen thing going for her , Lily can join Jason castro and strum ukelele , Crystal has that one person band busking thing down pat , Lacey has a unique voice that is likely suited for a suzanne vega/michelle branch kind of song , Katie has a rough edge to her voice and Didi seemed to be in her own zone when she has her guitar.

[bert]

Who'd a thunk it?

Tim Urban was incredible tonight, and just edges out Big Mike for my favorite tonight.

For the most part, all were good, and it's gonna actually be a tough call to who gets eliminated.

if I had to guess?

Alex Lambert, and the young kid who's song started out awful. (Todrick's falsetto on Queen likely saved him).

Garcia might be in trouble too. . .he really did come across as a bit stale.

[Romero]

Andrew Garcia has a good sounding voice but his shtick is wearing pretty thin.

I just don't see anything really special about Aaron Kelly to keep him around. His performance wasn't that good and I forget about him from week to week.

Big Mike, Casey and Lee should be easily safe.

MulletBanana and Tim Urban keep fighting their way up. I think the former might be the less safe of the two.

I just don't know about Todrick at all. He won't win it all. If he makes the Top 12, he could still end being summarily dispatched quickly thereafter.

[marshal99]

The guys don't really have it , Big mike should do well , Casey can go far enough as he has a decent voice but he has good looks and he's charming , the rest are kind of border line average at best , that banana kid that the judges seemed gaga over , he might have a half decent voice but he lacked conviction and delivery , all his songs are all sleepy and half hearted , no vibe , no soul , no connection. Garcia act is getting a bit tiresome as he's basically doing the same thing with each song.

[Chiasm]

Any reason why they credited Maxwell as being the artist that Mike Lynche was covering instead of Kate Bush who originally sang the song. I'd never heard either version til last night but it sounded to me like Mike was doing a Bush cover rather than a Maxwell cover. The original artist should get credited unless its a cover of a radically different cover like when David Cook covered Chris Cornell who in turn had covered Michael Jackson (which is why they credited as Chris Cornell's version on the show).

[bert]

Any reason why they credited Maxwell as being the artist that Mike Lynche was covering instead of Kate Bush who originally sang the song. I'd never heard either version til last night but it sounded to me like Mike was doing a Bush cover rather than a Maxwell cover. The original artist should get credited unless its a cover of a radically different cover like when David Cook covered Chris Cornell who in turn had covered Michael Jackson (which is why they credited as Chris Cornell's version on the show).

Likely because the average age of those who vote will know Maxwell, and won't know Kate Bush.

On the morning show I listen to during my LONG drives to work, they were discussing the Ladies' perfomances, and they crew on the show didn't know most of the songs (shockingly, none of them knew "Smile" and only one of them new "Rhiannon"). .

yeah. I felt old.

[Anna]

I think this is one of the weakest seasons ever; but I do like a few of the guys.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Well I'm happy DiDi and Casey made it thru to the top 12. Hell yeahhh...

And ...what in the blue hell was that cover of Billy Joel's "Tell Me About It". The one guy seemed over excited about being there and sang most of it horrible. The other guys eyes and actions made me think he hit some coke backstage.

Just a horrible damn cover and coke guy , I won't be buying your album.

[bert]

Hmm. . .

I can't argue w/ one each of the Guys and Gals, as Todrick was iffy, and Catelyn (who I called just after the performance).


for the life of me I can't figure out how Paige survived. . that cover of "Smile" was painful. She should have gone and Lilly stayed in.

And I'm sorry, but Andrew Garcia should have gone instead of Alex Lambert (even tho I had called Lambert being out). Just based on Alex improving every week and Andrew staying boringly the same. I'm scratching my head over that one too. . .. (and yeah, both Tim Urban and Lacey deserved to be in the top 12, simply based on them KNOCKING it out of the park this week -- you're only as good as your last performance).


I have a feeling Crystal Bowersox is gonna drop out -- she did *not* look like she was having any fun tonight.

[bert]

Well I'm happy DiDi and Casey made it thru to the top 12. Hell yeahhh...

And ...what in the blue hell was that cover of Billy Joel's "Tell Me About It". The one guy seemed over excited about being there and sang most of it horrible. The other guys eyes and actions made me think he hit some coke backstage.

Just a horrible damn cover and coke guy , I won't be buying your album.

I guess you didn't watch last year -- he's blind, dude.

that's why he didnt' stand up to greet Ryan.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I guess you didn't watch last year -- he's blind, dude.

that's why he didnt' stand up to greet Ryan.

I didn't....wow .....whoops on my part. :eek:

[Chiasm]

I'm seriously disturbed by America's lack of taste.

Lacey makes it but Lilly and Catelyn don't??????? :eek: What the hell? Laceys first two songs in the top 24 are easily two of the worst Idol performances ever. Her 3rd performance was better but it still sucked. Vote for the Worst was pushing for Paige so is there some secret sucky singer movement for Lacey I don't know about?

On the guy side I could have seen any of them going though its still shocking that Tim Urban made it given how horrendous he was the first two weeks.

[bert]

I'm seriously disturbed by America's lack of taste.

Lacey makes it but Lilly and Catelyn don't??????? :eek: What the hell? Laceys first two songs in the top 24 are easily two of the worst Idol performances ever. Her 3rd performance was better but it still sucked. Vote for the Worst was pushing for Paige so is there some secret sucky singer movement for Lacey I don't know about?

On the guy side I could have seen any of them going though its still shocking that Tim Urban made it given how horrendous he was the first two weeks.

She doesn't sing a style of music that you like.

While I thought her first perfomance was bad, the past two weeks have been great.

as I said, she sounds like Hope Sandoval (from Mazzy Star), and there is definately a market for her vocal style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysu-o4oCVSA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkm1Mp5Uyrc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_LQ513lyuA


I think she sounds lush and fantastic.

[titanfan]

Paige has demographics going for her. (Both her race and VoteForTheWorst), I think she'll be in it awhile, especially with two of the upper middle females going.

Alex and Toddrick both had good nights this week I thought, but both are kind of forgettable. I didn't get the Alex love that the judges did.

Lilly was a shocker to me. I was thinking Final 6 at least.

[marshal99]

How the heck did Lily Scott got cut and Paige Miles is still in ?!?!? Lily Scott was refreshing , Paige Miles has been terrible.

[Chiasm]

She doesn't sing a style of music that you like.

While I thought her first perfomance was bad, the past two weeks have been great.

as I said, she sounds like Hope Sandoval (from Mazzy Star), and there is definately a market for her vocal style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysu-o4oCVSA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkm1Mp5Uyrc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_LQ513lyuA


I think she sounds lush and fantastic.

Style has nothing to do with it. Crystal Bowersox has sang exactly two songs so far that I like, Hand in My Pocket and If It Makes You Happy, yet I can see the obvious talent in her singing even when she things songs I don't like (like the last two weeks for instance). Ditto with Siobhan Magnus who has only sang one song so far that I like, Wicked Game. Lilly never sang a single song in any kind of style that I liked but I thought she was very talented. Their talent is obvious even when I don't like the style / song but with Lacey its a case of horribly out of tune singing that makes me think of nails on a chalkboard, especially 2 weeks ago and last week.

And I know who Mazzy Star and Hope Sandoval are, big hit in the 90's with Fade Into You and I'm not seeing the resemblance simply because Hope can sing while Lacey just screeches. I haven't listened to a lot of Mazzy Star but I do like Hungry Lucy which is a similar group.

[bert]

Style has nothing to do with it. Crystal Bowersox has sang exactly two songs so far that I like, Hand in My Pocket and If It Makes You Happy, yet I can see the obvious talent in her singing even when she things songs I don't like (like the last two weeks for instance). Ditto with Siobhan Magnus who has only sang one song so far that I like, Wicked Game. Lilly never sang a single song in any kind of style that I liked but I thought she was very talented. Their talent is obvious even when I don't like the style / song but with Lacey its a case of horribly out of tune singing that makes me think of nails on a chalkboard, especially 2 weeks ago and last week.

And I know who Mazzy Star and Hope Sandoval are, big hit in the 90's with Fade Into You and I'm not seeing the resemblance simply because Hope can sing while Lacey just screeches. I haven't listened to a lot of Mazzy Star but I do like Hungry Lucy which is a similar group.

We'll have to agree to disagree then, because Lacey is singing in a style that I adore, and I'm happy she's made it to the top 12 (not that it matters, since I don't bother voting, I simply watch).

thanks for the heads up on Hungry Lucy, I'll have to check em out.

[Anna]

I'm seriously disturbed by America's lack of taste.

Lacey makes it but Lilly and Catelyn don't??????? :eek: What the hell? Laceys first two songs in the top 24 are easily two of the worst Idol performances ever. Her 3rd performance was better but it still sucked. Vote for the Worst was pushing for Paige so is there some secret sucky singer movement for Lacey I don't know about?

On the guy side I could have seen any of them going though its still shocking that Tim Urban made it given how horrendous he was the first two weeks.

She doesn't sing a style of music that you like.

While I thought her first perfomance was bad, the past two weeks have been great.

as I said, she sounds like Hope Sandoval (from Mazzy Star), and there is definately a market for her vocal style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysu-o4oCVSA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkm1Mp5Uyrc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_LQ513lyuA


I think she sounds lush and fantastic.

I like the style of music Lacey sings; but she manages to his some horrific sour notes each time. Also when she smiles I get the urge to punch her....

Tim saved himself with that redition of Hallelujah.

[carlyquin]

i can't believe that they voted out lily!

[Chiasm]

Siobhan gave the best performance of the season so far. I was a bit worried right at the start because the arrangement was obviously going to be so odd but it really worked. The whole thing reminded me a lot of Adam Lambert last season doing Ring of Fire where the song was wholly different.

Does anyone know if this was an original arrangement or a cover of a cover like Lambert did on Ring of Fire?

[bert]

That sucked.









Lacey got robbed.


I'm sorry, like her/him or hate her/him, last night, Tim Urban or Andy Garcia were both WAY worse and either of them should have been the first one kicked off.

I'm sad. . .

not that s/he had a chance in hell of winning. . but still, too soon, considering the competion.

[Anna]

Tim was worse, Andrew was better.

[Chiasm]

I didn't love Tim's performance last night but I liked it better than Katie, Aaron, or Paige last night.

And its about time Lacey went. Her last two weeks have been decent but after the abominations of Landslide and Kiss Me she didn't deserve to take a top 12 spot over far better singers like Lilly, Catelyn, Adam, and the other nine who got booted before her.

I also think its dumb that they even make a pretense of using the judges save. The judges will save it for Siobhan, Crystal, or Mike in case there is a shock elimination of one of those three. Then if like last year it gets down the top 5 and they still haven't used it they might use it just to do it like they did last year when they saved Matt Giraud. He didn't really deserve the save but they weren't going to not use it. No way to they burn it before the top 7 unless its for one of the three I mention.

[Anna]

Poor poor Paige.

Maybe she can go for a ride with Sanjaya: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/03/25/1122927/the-411-on-idol-contestant-sanjaya.html

[Chiasm]

Some of you might be interested to know that Carly Smithson, season VII finalist, and her band We are the Fallen have an album coming out in May. If you don't know the backstory of the band its rather interesting in how much animosity there apparently is for three of the members for their old band. Three of the four original members of Evanescence, everybody but Amy Lee, rejoined to form a new band and hired Carly as their new lead singer. One of the three, Ben Moody, was the primary songwriter on Evanescence's first album Fallen. The band name is basically a reference to the Fallen album and while they in interviews have pretty much taken the high road there have been some veiled references to Amy Lee which seem to indicate some hard feelings. Given the roots of the band its not surprising that the band basically sounds like Evanescence albeit a bit harder. Carly and Amy have similar voices and the rest of the guys write and play music like themselves. At the same time though its obvious from the first video, check out what Carly is wearing, and the sound of the second song that the group is also emulating a lot of the European female fronted symphonic metal bands.

Their myspace page where you can listen to their first single Bury Me Alive and another song, Without You. The video for Bury is also on the site.

http://www.myspace.com/wearethefallen

[Anna]

Ricky Minor will jump to The Tonight Show after this season ends. http://weblogs.variety.com/on_the_air/2010/04/american-idols-rickey-minor-moves-to-the-tonight-show.html

[Chachi]

Sergio Garcia or what ever his name is needs to go he freakin sucks. Who does everyone think goes home?

[Phil Clark]

Turban has to go soon. He is just Booooooorrrrrrrrriiiiiinnnnnnnngggggg.... And he didn't listen to Adam Lambert at all. It's like he is begging to be eliminated.