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Jigsaw
01-11-2009, 07:32 PM
Not sure if there's a thread on this already...if it is, Mods, please merge.

I saw this movie for the first time about a week ago, and I thought it was just fantastic. I like the idea that it's not just your standard superhero movie, and puts a new spin on the whole genre. Plus, Jamie Bell was awesome in his performance. I'm looking forward to what the sequels may bring.

kalorama
01-11-2009, 07:35 PM
I thought it was entertaining in an utterly brainless sort of way. It wasn't "good" by any measure, but it was fun to watch.

Kaos
01-11-2009, 08:04 PM
Jamie Bell was sick...the rest of them asides from Sam....meeeeeeeh

the goddamn batman
01-11-2009, 08:09 PM
I liked the core premise of it, (which is Nightcrawler The Movie) but it's easily one of the worst movies I watched this year. In like, every way.

Maybe I don't watch a lot of bad movie, but I was blown away by the amount of plot holes and just plain dumb shit.

Ontir
01-11-2009, 08:36 PM
You don't watch very many movies if this was the worst.
It's nothing that needs to hold its breath come the Oscar noms, but it was a fun ride with some cool moments. I'm looking forward to Jamie Bell in Griffin's Story.

meethraa
01-11-2009, 09:46 PM
Yeah, it was pretty bad, which is disappointing for a Doug Liman fan. And I'm not even sure what was so impressive about Griffin either. He was just an annoying character in a movie full of unlikable characters.

the goddamn batman
01-11-2009, 10:16 PM
Well, I guess I meant of 2008. Wanted and Rambo were the two other absolutely terrible movies I saw from 2008.

Jigsaw
01-12-2009, 12:54 AM
I don't see how this movie had a lot of plot holes...or was incredibly bad.

the goddamn batman
01-12-2009, 12:55 AM
I don't see how this movie had a lot of plot holes...or was incredibly bad.

And yet, it does.

Jigsaw
01-12-2009, 01:06 AM
Unless you can explain how their are plotholes, I'll just be forced to assume you're talking out of your ass.

the goddamn batman
01-12-2009, 01:08 AM
I'd have to either care enough to remember them or watch it again, and I'm not capable of either, so.

Aubergine~!
01-12-2009, 06:44 AM
Wasn't great, but was a fun popcorn flick.

Horrible acting from Hayden Christiensen though. Came across as an wooden, unsympathetic prick, which is pretty much how he's been in all the movies I've seen him in. Sam Jackson & the other Jumper were entertaining though.

The story was very good. This could've been like, a 00s version of Highlander if the lead had any charisma. Excellent concept, shame about the execution. Hope the sequel is better.

edhopper
01-12-2009, 08:15 AM
Should have been better. Interesting premise that was sooo underwritten. A centuries long war between two secret groups, but reduced down to a chase movie with neat special effects.
Big reveal at the end that his Mom was a paladin, and all I could do was yawn.

Jigsaw
01-12-2009, 08:18 AM
I thought Hayden did an excellent job, and it simply seemed that was the way the character was meant to be. There's said to be a lot more to the story, so we'll see where it goes in the sequels.

Adam West
01-12-2009, 09:15 AM
Hayden was the leading man and he couldn't carry the movie. The premise is very good and the story set it up for a good blockbuster movie. Alas, it didn't work that way.
I feel a huge opportunity missed after watching that.

Toku King
01-12-2009, 09:18 AM
Awful. Completely awful. One of my most hated of 2008.

Jigsaw
01-12-2009, 09:25 AM
Too bad, I think that this movie is really getting a lot of misplaced hate.

Toku King
01-12-2009, 09:28 AM
Too bad, I think that this movie is really getting a lot of misplaced hate.

How is it misplaced? It was god awful. The acting was bad, there were plot holes everywhere(you want an example? Why weren't there video cameras in the bank vault?), and the characters were god awful.

You wanted an opinion, and there it is.

kalorama
01-12-2009, 01:41 PM
How is it misplaced? It was god awful. The acting was bad, there were plot holes everywhere(you want an example? Why weren't there video cameras in the bank vault?), and the characters were god awful.

I agree with all of that. Yet I enjoyed it nonetheless. (Although, in part, ad bad as it was, I was actually expecting it to be much worse. The beauty of low expectations)

Black Atom
01-12-2009, 03:15 PM
How is it misplaced? It was god awful. The acting was bad, there were plot holes everywhere(you want an example? Why weren't there video cameras in the bank vault?), and the characters were god awful.

You wanted an opinion, and there it is.

Surveillance cameras are dependent on being able to ID a suspect once their face is captured clearly on camera. Given that the kid was a runaway from another town, with no prior offenses from who can instantly be halfway around the world, the idea of him not being arrested is not that far-fetched.

Ontir
01-12-2009, 03:18 PM
It's no milestone in filmmaking, but good grief! You guys really must not watch many films. It's not even in the bottom 40 of 2008!

the goddamn batman
01-12-2009, 03:23 PM
I watch a lot of movies... not all of them good. But I remember being pretty blown away by how bad this movie was.

kalorama
01-12-2009, 03:27 PM
I fail to see what the number of films someone watches has to do with whether this particular one was bad.

Ontir
01-12-2009, 03:45 PM
It means that if you'd watched a large number of films, you'd have seen the real crap that's out there. Jumper doesn't even enter into the worst the year had to offer. Hell Ride (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411475/) for example was far worse on many more levels.

Jigsaw
01-12-2009, 05:40 PM
Completely agree. The movie isn't nearly as bad as everyone is making it out to be, and not one person has listed a real plot hole in the movie. You know why? Because there aren't any.

kalorama
01-12-2009, 05:48 PM
It means that if you'd watched a large number of films, you'd have seen the real crap that's out there.

I don't see where that argument counts in Jumper's favor. Jumper could easily be the worst movie someone saw last year, even if they saw a whole lot of movies. All it takes is for them to have seen mostly good movies (or better than Jumper, which is actually a pretty low bar to clear). It has more to do with th quality of the other movies seen, not the quantity.

Ontir
01-12-2009, 06:19 PM
It's not saying "Jumper" is great. I'm saying that in terms of bad films of 2008 there are many that are far worse. It's not that bad a film, especially when compared to craptaculars like Hell Ride.

There are far worse films to be had. Things that are in no way as enjoyable as "Jumper." If you guys had seen more of what was on offer this year, you'd have seen more of the real dogs.

the goddamn batman
01-12-2009, 07:06 PM
and not one person has listed a real plot hole in the movie. You know why? Because...

Because I can't remember any. Because I wiped the piece of shit from my memory as soon as I was done watching it. Because there's a metric ton of them and none of them are worth remembering for the sole purpose of ruining someone else's enjoyment of the movie.

I'm not willing to sit through it again, but should I find myself in that position, I'll take notes for you.

I don't see where that argument counts in Jumper's favor. Jumper could easily be the worst movie someone saw last year, even if they saw a whole lot of movies. All it takes is for them to have seen mostly good movies (or better than Jumper, which is actually a pretty low bar to clear). It has more to do with th quality of the other movies seen, not the quantity.

Exactly. It also has to do with opinions. I think Jumper, Wanted and Rambo were the three worst movies from 2008 that I saw in 2008. Sure, there was worse. I didn't see them though. And I watch about 5 movies a week. Most of them not new releases. Just quality releases :biggrin:

It's not saying "Jumper" is great. I'm saying that in terms of bad films of 2008 there are many that are far worse. It's not that bad a film, especially when compared to craptaculars like Hell Ride.

There are far worse films to be had. Things that are in no way as enjoyable as "Jumper." If you guys had seen more of what was on offer this year, you'd have seen more of the real dogs.

I could probably name 10 movies from 08 that were worse. I just had the sense to not see those 10 movies.

kalorama
01-12-2009, 07:58 PM
It's not saying "Jumper" is great. I'm saying that in terms of bad films of 2008 there are many that are far worse. It's not that bad a film, especially when compared to craptaculars like Hell Ride.

There are far worse films to be had. Things that are in no way as enjoyable as "Jumper." If you guys had seen more of what was on offer this year, you'd have seen more of the real dogs.

No one's disputing that there were worse movies than Jumper released last year. But that's beside the point. He didn't say it was the worst movie released in 2008. He said it was the worst movie he saw in 2008. Really, there's no reasonable way for someone else to dispute that claim. It doesn't matter what movies he saw or how many. If he says Jumper was the worst movie he saw in 2008, it was the worst movie he saw in 2008.

Jigsaw
01-12-2009, 08:10 PM
Because I can't remember any. Because I wiped the piece of shit from my memory as soon as I was done watching it. Because there's a metric ton of them and none of them are worth remembering for the sole purpose of ruining someone else's enjoyment of the movie.

I'm not willing to sit through it again, but should I find myself in that position, I'll take notes for you.



Exactly. It also has to do with opinions. I think Jumper, Wanted and Rambo were the three worst movies from 2008 that I saw in 2008. Sure, there was worse. I didn't see them though. And I watch about 5 movies a week. Most of them not new releases. Just quality releases :biggrin:



I could probably name 10 movies from 08 that were worse. I just had the sense to not see those 10 movies.

That's such a lame excuse, man. Just admit it, you can't find any plotholes, so you're using this "I don't remember" line to cover it up.

the goddamn batman
01-12-2009, 08:35 PM
That's such a lame excuse, man. Just admit it, you can't find any plotholes, so you're using this "I don't remember" line to cover it up.

Oh, well... I guess you caught me red-handed. :rolleyes:

But if you're interested: Here is my (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=7030571&postcount=4006) initial (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=7106738&postcount=4096) thoughts (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=7106995&postcount=4099) on the matter. (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=7126162&postcount=4125)

Jigsaw
01-12-2009, 08:42 PM
More like empty handed.

Does anyone know when the second movie is scheduled to be released?

the goddamn batman
01-12-2009, 08:57 PM
I've never disputed the empty handedness of my claim.

EZMOHR
01-12-2009, 09:12 PM
Jumper is an awful movie. PERIOD.

When Jamie Bell shows up in any part of the movie, it is pretty damn fun to watch. I mean, entertaining as I'll get out.

Jumper when Hayden Christensen, Rachel Bilson, and Sam Jackson come on screen without Jamie Bell........TERRIBLE. Episode One Bad. If you ask me, Doug Liman blew his load with Go, because The Bourne Identity was nothing special, Mr. and Mrs. Smith was Lame to the max, and Jumper...was just not very good.

Jigsaw
01-12-2009, 09:19 PM
I still love the movie, but I will agree that Jamie Bell had the most entertaining scenes. He's really talented, and if he doesn't have an even bigger part of the next sequel, it'll be a waste.

Ontir
01-13-2009, 12:40 AM
No one's disputing that there were worse movies than Jumper released last year. But that's beside the point. He didn't say it was the worst movie released in 2008. He said it was the worst movie he saw in 2008. Really, there's no reasonable way for someone else to dispute that claim. It doesn't matter what movies he saw or how many. If he says Jumper was the worst movie he saw in 2008, it was the worst movie he saw in 2008.

...and I said that if you think this film is the worst thing out there, you must not see too much, as there are far worse to be seen. It's true.

We've now reached that moment where your just going to go on, and on, and on, being as combative as possible, so I'm not responding to you any more.

twilight
01-13-2009, 01:17 AM
I'm fine with saying I think Jumper is a good popcorn movie.

But of course a good popcorn movie is distinctly different from a good movie.

-Twi

Matt
01-13-2009, 02:36 AM
It was a pretty poor offering, down there with 'Wanted'.

Steward Ace
01-13-2009, 05:18 AM
Fun book. If I hadn't been so fond of it, I may have found the movie passable.

fireSTRIKE!
01-13-2009, 05:55 AM
Saw this movie a few nights ago on HBO... not the greatest, but enjoyable for an hour and a half... when I go to a movie like this one, I don't go to think on it and analyze it... I'm just there to suspend reality for a bit and enjoy some mindlessness... 'sides, I always like a Samuel L. Jackson performance, no matter what he's in... but Sam with white hair?!?... YOWZAH!

http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/MSN_Emoticons/MSN-Emoticon-fireball-060.gif
'STRIKE!

Agent Helix
01-13-2009, 06:08 AM
I really doubt there's going to be ANY sequels to Jumper. It didn't even make back its production budget with the worldwide gross.

bert
01-13-2009, 07:15 AM
That's such a lame excuse, man. Just admit it, you can't find any plotholes, so you're using this "I don't remember" line to cover it up.

actually, we just saw this on HBO a couple of weeks ago, and while I didn't think it was AWFUL, it wasn't a good film.

and I turned to my partner during the film and said "sheesh!. .what a lot of HUGE plot holes this thing has"

and I can't tell you one of them right now (and this was less than two weeks ago)

but watching it? yeah. . there's a lot of em.

so it's not a "lame excuse" that he can't remember. . it's just that the film isn't really memorable enough to bother recalling.

Jigsaw
01-13-2009, 11:18 AM
I really doubt there's going to be ANY sequels to Jumper. It didn't even make back its production budget with the worldwide gross.

Production Budget: $85 million

Worldwide: $222,229,513

Kids, $222 million is a larger number than $85 million. There will be sequels...in order to break even the film would have to have at least made $170 million, but it made $52, 229,513 more than that. Try going to match class some time. It's boring, but you learn things. :wink:

chico25
01-13-2009, 11:22 AM
Surveillance cameras are dependent on being able to ID a suspect once their face is captured clearly on camera. Given that the kid was a runaway from another town, with no prior offenses from who can instantly be halfway around the world, the idea of him not being arrested is not that far-fetched.

The issue with the surveilance cameras is not that he wasn't arrested it was that no one in the bank looked at the security tape like wtf how is this person disappearing and reappearing repeatedly.

Christopher Cross Is God
01-13-2009, 11:26 AM
Jumper when Hayden Christensen, Rachel Bilson, and Sam Jackson come on screen without Jamie Bell........TERRIBLE. Episode One Bad. If you ask me, Doug Liman blew his load with Go, because The Bourne Identity was nothing special, Mr. and Mrs. Smith was Lame to the max, and Jumper...was just not very good.

The only part of your post I disagree with is your disapproval of The Bourne Identity, which was an excellent film. That, and I think Episode One was a lot better than Jumper (But at least Christensen pulled off a better performance in Jumper than he did in Episodes 2 & 3).


actually, we just saw this on HBO a couple of weeks ago, and while I didn't think it was AWFUL, it wasn't a good film.

and I turned to my partner during the film and said "sheesh!. .what a lot of HUGE plot holes this thing has"

and I can't tell you one of them right now (and this was less than two weeks ago)

but watching it? yeah. . there's a lot of em.

so it's not a "lame excuse" that he can't remember. . it's just that the film isn't really memorable enough to bother recalling.

I have to agree with Bert's post. It wasn't a memorable movie at all, so you can't fault someone for not remembering the plot holes.

The movie was fun, playing with the concept of teleportation, and the Irish character was entertaining, but overall the movie wasn't that great. I'd say it was around Hancock level.......As in, I didn't consider it to be a complete waste of time to watch it, as it was mildly entertaining and had nice special effects, but it just wasn't any good.

And a better ending could've helped the film out a bit.

kalorama
01-13-2009, 01:06 PM
...and I said that if you think this film is the worst thing out there, you must not see too much, as there are far worse to be seen. It's true.

Except he never said the film was "the worst thing out there." He said it was the worst movie he saw in 2008. HUGE difference. Whether or not it's the worst movie someone has seen is a purely subjective argument from that individual's POV. You can't argue down such a subjective opinion , no matter how hard you try. It doesn't matter how many worse movies are out there if the person making the judgment hasn't seen them. Your response to GDB's argument has no actual relationship to the point he was actually making. You ignored what he said and made up something else he didn't say so you could argue against that. Again, he never said it was the worst movie released in 2008, so repeatedly and adamantly saying there were worse movies released last year has no meaning or relevance to the issue at hand.

We've now reached that moment where your just going to go on, and on, and on, being as combative as possible, so I'm not responding to you any more.

No, we've reached the point where, after repeatedly failing to make your case you point fingers, name call, deflect blame, and stomp away because you haven't found a way to make a go nowhere argument actually go anywhere.

Agent Helix
01-13-2009, 01:06 PM
I stand corrected. I was looking at the domestic gross earlier.


Wait, why am I in a thread about freaking JUMPER? Nobody gives a crap about this movie.

kalorama
01-13-2009, 01:09 PM
True, but since when has that ever stopped anyone?

the goddamn batman
01-13-2009, 01:27 PM
Try going to match class some time. It's boring, but you learn things. :wink:

Yeah, guys! Try going to Match class sometime! Jeez. :rolleyes:

Jigsaw
01-13-2009, 04:35 PM
Hey, it's a typo, shit happens all the time. I've seen some of your posts around here....I wouldn't put you within ten feet of being a brainiac.

Matt
01-13-2009, 04:40 PM
Everyone, keep personal insults/comments out of discussions else you'll be enjoying a break from the forums. Cheers.

Toonimator
01-13-2009, 04:48 PM
So, how about that new movie "Push", eh? It looks like the premise of Jumper, but people have lots of different powers.

DonC
01-13-2009, 04:52 PM
So, how about that new movie "Push", eh? It looks like the premise of Jumper, but people have lots of different powers.


Wasn't that called "X-Men" back in the day?

Toku King
01-13-2009, 05:00 PM
Surveillance cameras are dependent on being able to ID a suspect once their face is captured clearly on camera. Given that the kid was a runaway from another town, with no prior offenses from who can instantly be halfway around the world, the idea of him not being arrested is not that far-fetched.

The fact that they had no cameras in the vault, not to mention if they did couldn't peg him considering how long he was in there for playing with money, is just ridiculous to me nonetheless.

Toku King
01-13-2009, 05:04 PM
It's no milestone in filmmaking, but good grief! You guys really must not watch many films. It's not even in the bottom 40 of 2008!

I watch many, many films. I've seen films from this year ranging from "In Bruges"(one of the best this year) to "Scorpion King 2"(one of the worst this year), and "Jumper" is still a pile of shit.

Toku King
01-13-2009, 05:14 PM
That's such a lame excuse, man. Just admit it, you can't find any plotholes, so you're using this "I don't remember" line to cover it up.

Do you want me to give you some plot holes? I'd be happy to help.


Oh, and here's ten reasons why I hated "Jumper" (http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/top_ten_questions_jumper_doesnt_want_you_to_ask), #5 being my #1.

Toonimator
01-13-2009, 05:34 PM
Wasn't that called "X-Men" back in the day?
What are you TALKING about? It's NOTHING like X-Men. They're not wearing weird leather suits with colored piping.

:tongue:

Black Atom
01-13-2009, 06:23 PM
Do you want me to give you some plot holes? I'd be happy to help.


Oh, and here's ten reasons why I hated "Jumper" (http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/top_ten_questions_jumper_doesnt_want_you_to_ask), #5 being my #1.

Not that Jumper is good or anything, but those are pretty lame complaints about the movie. Even #5 can be explained by the simple idea that the main character's supposed to be an unheroic, selfish asshole. It's called a growth arc. Then there are points like how did he buy condos? The fact that this is probably applying more concentration than the movie warrants, how do we know he bought them? More logically, he probably rents them. Maybe he gets money orders or traveller's checks. Who fucking cares?

Jigsaw
01-13-2009, 06:49 PM
That's why I'm glad I don't really bother with reviews, they are always full of nonsense and bullshit that makes no sense, and isn't important.

meethraa
01-13-2009, 07:46 PM
Try going to match class some time. It's boring, but you learn things. :wink:
Mr. Miller, is that you?

Jigsaw
01-13-2009, 07:48 PM
Who the hell is that?

meethraa
01-13-2009, 07:51 PM
I stand corrected. I was looking at the domestic gross earlier.


Wait, why am I in a thread about freaking JUMPER? Nobody gives a crap about this movie.

I'm just waiting to see if anyone figures how many films you have to watch before Jumper ceases to be the worst movie of 2008...


... which it probably is.

Jigsaw
01-13-2009, 07:57 PM
Even if I hated "Jumper," it wouldn't be anywhere near the worst film of '08, that's just ridiculous. There were way worse films out there. Hell, "Jumper" wouldn't even be in the top 10 if you actually stop and take a look at the bad movies that came out last year.

the goddamn batman
01-14-2009, 01:02 AM
Not that Jumper is good or anything, but those are pretty lame complaints about the movie. Even #5 can be explained by the simple idea that the main character's supposed to be an unheroic, selfish asshole. It's called a growth arc. Then there are points like how did he buy condos? The fact that this is probably applying more concentration than the movie warrants, how do we know he bought them? More logically, he probably rents them. Maybe he gets money orders or traveller's checks. Who fucking cares?

Agreed. I mean, the plane trip was pretty dumb, but the rest are kinda silly. Especially the condo thing.

And none of those rang a bell for me regarding the complaints I had while watching it.

the goddamn batman
01-14-2009, 01:11 AM
Even if I hated "Jumper," it wouldn't be anywhere near the worst film of '08, that's just ridiculous.

Of course it's ridiculous. Do you know how many movies were actually released in 2008? This list includes TV, (http://www.imdb.com/Sections/Years/2008/) but just start with 'A'...

Kinda staggering, isn't it?

It's absolutely ridiculous to say that it's the worst movie of the year. And since I guess, I started it...? It's the worst movie I saw in 2008 that was released in 2008. That's the only claim I ever made.

Toku King
01-14-2009, 06:13 AM
#5 can be explained by the simple idea that the main character's supposed to be an unheroic, selfish asshole. It's called a growth arc.

He never changed. He was still a little dickweed by the end of the film. And don't say he saved the girl, because that doesn't justify allowing hundreds to die. Hell, they didn't even address it ever again!

Pixie_Solanas
01-14-2009, 11:29 AM
Hayden Christensen and the dwarf broad from the O.C.

Who the hell casted this p.o.s.???

Toku King
01-14-2009, 11:35 AM
Hayden Christensen and the dwarf broad from the O.C.

Who the hell casted this p.o.s.???

From what I've heard about the book, the novel 'Jumper' would've made an epically awesome movie if they didn't Hollywood-ize it. You would think Avi Arad produced what we got.

Black Atom
01-14-2009, 12:45 PM
Even if I hated "Jumper," it wouldn't be anywhere near the worst film of '08, that's just ridiculous. There were way worse films out there. Hell, "Jumper" wouldn't even be in the top 10 if you actually stop and take a look at the bad movies that came out last year.

That Dungeon Siege movie was much worse than Jumper. Although much more unintentionally hilarious.

Toku King
01-14-2009, 01:05 PM
That Dungeon Siege movie was much worse than Jumper. Although much more unintentionally hilarious.

"Scorpion King 2" and "The Love Guru" are tied for #1 on my list.

Jigsaw
01-14-2009, 01:33 PM
That's nice, but that's not what this thread is for.

Watched the movie again last night, and I must once again point out Jamie Bell's brilliance. Again, if he's not heavily involved in the next film, it'll be a waste.

Toku King
01-14-2009, 01:42 PM
That's nice, but that's not what this thread is for.

If the thread's for "Jumper", then it's for bad movies. Besides, I complemented "Jumper" for not being as bad as "Scorpion King 2" and "The Love Guru".

KiFF86
01-14-2009, 03:11 PM
I mean I liked it, I wasn't excepting The Godfather I knew it wasn't going to be great. Just mind numbing fun.

kalorama
01-14-2009, 04:25 PM
That's nice, but that's not what this thread is for.

What? You mean this thread is actually for something?

Damn, who knew?

Stony
01-14-2009, 06:39 PM
If you have issues with each other either take it to PM or report it to a Mod. It's that simple.

Billy, don't be a hero.

Jigsaw
01-14-2009, 06:43 PM
I mean I liked it, I wasn't excepting The Godfather I knew it wasn't going to be great. Just mind numbing fun.

Agreed, it's not the greatest movie ever, but it's fun to watch.

I liked that the Paladins were a group of religious fanatics, and that Roland was defeated in a way where he could possibly return.

Jared
01-14-2009, 07:10 PM
It was hardly the worst movie of last year, or any year for that matter. I was just a fairly standard sci-fi action flick with a better than-average FX gimmick. It did have an interesting premise that could have resulted in a really, really cool movie, instead we got one that was merely ok.

The earlier comparison to Highlander is rather apt, especially if one bears in mind that Highlander isn't exactly a very good movie. Enjoyable, yes, and it had some nice touches...but there's a reason Christopher Lambert is only a star in Europe. Hell, without Sean Connery and Queen I don't know if it even would have become a cult hit.

Hayden's opening narration fell flat, but otherwise, I thought he played the role pretty well. Rachel Bilson is cute and sexy. Sam Jackson rocks white hair but doesn't go completely over-the-top.

I like Doug Liman's direction. He isn't a visual genius, but at least he knows when to let the camera stay still so you can see something that looks cool, rather than shake the hell out of it so you have to guess at what might be happening. He has a good sense of pacing, which is crucial.


Like seemingly everything David S. Goyer touches, there was at least one big plot hole. Probably more than one, though maybe I'm a bit nitpicky.


-So his mom is a Paladin. Roland, who is seemingly the leader, figures this out when he visits David's father. Yet the mom isn't in any kind of trouble?

-After being attacked in his apartment by a mysterious stranger who knows all about your secret power, Hayden then decides to go visit his high school sweetheart and board a plane to Rome. Maybe that's not a plot hole so much as character stupidity.

-So electricity prevents them from jumping, but do they also have some kind of special resistance to it? It seemed to me that Griffen should not have survived being in that tower like he was.

-For that matter, the nature of their powers and the backstory of the Jumpers and Paladins was left almost completely blank. Why do the Paladins hate jumpers? How the hell did they hunt them during the middle ages? Why does jumping cause a shockwave only some of the time? Usually a movie like this has a bit more exposition to establish its world. Either Roland or Griffen could have been the perfect vehicle for it.

-Why does David leave Roland alive? He didn't espouse any Silver Age morality during the story. He had no problem with Griffen killing paladins. Roland did kill his father and try to kill him and his girlfriend, for no apparent reason. Personally, I would have double-killed his ass then pissed on the remains.

- I felt like it was a bit of a stretch for the paladins to be as much trouble as they were. Griffen in particular should have been able to take them out easily. Why go to the trouble of throwing rushing teleport punches and grabbing a bus when you could just touch a guy and take him a thousand feet in the air, or the middle of the ocean? I know, the action scenes would have been shorter and not looked as cool, but they could have found a way around that. Say the paladins have technology that normally prevents them from getting teleported.

The climax fell back on tired superhero/martial arts movie cliche of the hero suddenly getting more powerful/skilled when the he needs it most. Even though he's wrapped up in electro cables, and even though a day earlier he didn't even know it was possible to teleport a car, David manages to take out an entire section of a house. What, is he supposed to be the Chosen One of Jumpers? This is not the first, and certainly won't be the last movie to rely on this sort of writing, it just gets tiresome. 'The One', which was a worse movie than Jumper, made me absolutely hate this trope. Only the The Incredible Hulk gets a pass, because that's his power.

Anyone who thinks Jumper is the worst movie of 08 hasn't seen The Spirit. I haven't seen In the Name of the King, Scorpion King 2, Love Guru, or that Jessica Alba thriller, but I'd bet money they're all objectively worse. 'Push' looks like it will be right around the same level as Jumper. The lead is more charismatic, but his partner on the run is a now teenage Dakota Fanning, which could be creepy.

Jigsaw
01-14-2009, 07:31 PM
Can we be sure his dad is actually dead?

Also, as for the background of the Jumpers and Paladins, it was said on the special features that it'd be explored in the sequels, so hopefully they keep their word on that so that can't be seen as a plot hole.

EZMOHR
01-14-2009, 08:53 PM
I like Doug Liman's direction. He isn't a visual genius, but at least he knows when to let the camera stay still so you can see something that looks cool, rather than shake the hell out of it so you have to guess at what might be happening. He has a good sense of pacing, which is crucial.

See, I disagree with you. I think the reason why EVERY single one of Doug Liman's movies are cut to shit is because the guy has absolutely no voice. None. Or I should say, he has no voice since 1999, when Go came out, and after it and Swingers made him a somewhat name director.

The Bourne Identity is not bad, but it isn't good either. I'm not saying Supremacy or Ultimatum are the wank inducing fests fans want them to be, and say what you will about Greengrass, but he gave a unique voice to the Bourne movies. Liman's Bourne movie is a mangled mess, that is fun because Franka Potente and Chris Cooper are entertaining actors in it. It isn't because of Doug Liman's direction. At all.

The same goes with Mr. and Mrs. Smith. This was a movie that suceeded because of the star wattage and chemistry. It had nothing to do with Liman. he actually churned out a very unremarkable, boring action movie.

Jumper....it is a product of its director. It has too much going on, and none of it is put together in a coherent manner. I believe Jumper a.) Needed no Rothman interferance and b.) needed someone other than Doug Liman as the director.

This is just my opinion. Doug Liman has made an enjoyable movie (Go) a movie people love (Swingers) and some......well, turds (His last three.) Doug Liman has shown he can make a movie in the past....he just hasn't wanted to since 1999.